Matamp GT120 vs Orange OR120 Doom Metal Amp Shootout

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Does It Doom?

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4 жыл бұрын

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Orange OR120 Overdrive - reverb.grsm.io/OrangeOR120
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First Act Custom Shop Double Cut DC-6
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Green Matamp GT120 MV: Input - 1st Gain Stage - Depth / FAC - Gain Knob - 2nd Gain Stage - Bax EQ - PI - MV - Presence
Orange OR120 Overdrive: Input - 1st Gain Stage - Bax EQ - Gain Knob - 2nd Gain Stage - Depth / FAC - PI - MV - Presence
In this video we’re going to be comparing a Green Matamp GT120 and an Orange OR120 Overdrive. Both amps have a factory Post Phase Invertor MV control with a gain knob to adjust the amount of preamp gain, both amps feature a Depth or FAC control-this control is a variable high pass filter, adjusting the knob changes the lower cutoff frequency of the filter impacting the amount of low frequency bass signal we are allowing to pass through it. Both amps feature a 2-band Baxandall EQ along with a presence control, and both amps put out 120w RMS clean power.
The circuit elements between the two are very similar with one notable difference, which is the location of the Depth / FAC knob and the EQ sections in the signal path.
With the Matamp we have our input, followed by our first gain stage, followed by our Depth / FAC control, followed by the gain control, which leads into the 2nd gain stage before hitting the two band Bax EQ and heading into the Phase invertor and the power amp section.
With the Orange, we have our input, followed by our first gain stage, followed by our two band Bax EQ, followed by the gain control, which leads into the 2nd gain stage before hitting the Depth / FAC control and heading into the Phase invertor and the power amp section.
So essentially the Depth / FAC and EQ sections are swapped between the two amps. In the Matamp we hit the Depth knob early and EQ late, in the Orange we hit the EQ early and the FAC knob late.
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Пікірлер: 403
@RickBeato
@RickBeato 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, the Orange design gives the amp far more clarity in the mids. I have a reissue Orange Overdrive but the original Matamp vs the Original Orange overdrive (I’ve owed about 5 of those) is really interesting. I’ve done some amp comparison videos on my channel but they don’t do as well because so many people have switched to modelers these days and many of them have never played through a tube amp! Well done comparison!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching, Rick! I’ve always wanted to get my hands on an original white faced Matamp GT100 to do the comparison. Hopefully someday. Amp demos tend to do relatively well with the doom crowd, so if people like this comparison style vid I will definitely do more. 🐐🤘🏻
@drlogic5854
@drlogic5854 4 жыл бұрын
What makes this song great, doom mini series would be lovely
@Psyfonify
@Psyfonify 4 жыл бұрын
Roaring crunching barking mids are great but it's always easier to take away than it is to add tho right? May be times where the orange cant get as brutal and crushing of a deep fuzz tone as the matamp due to that, I dunno. Btw your channel is one of my favs @Rick Beato, especially loved the professional practice methods tips for guitar, but also literally any topic you cover is always a good time. Like that swervedriver live stream! Or all the various industry insight when it comes to the mainstream. Cheers and thanks for contributing to the greater good 💪👍👍👍
@Psyfonify
@Psyfonify 4 жыл бұрын
Great taste in music btw rick, your love of radiohead, deftones, allan holdsworth, swervedriver, all the music history knowledge, the non-corny "djent" that's out there, and apparently doom/sludge (as you're here) is proof of that
@whiskeycan529
@whiskeycan529 4 жыл бұрын
@@drlogic5854 I would be genuinely curious to hear Rick's (and anyone else's) analysis of Earth. Like maybe Bees Made Honey in the Lions Skull. They're one of my favorite bands but I genuinely don't know what makes their songs great. Every time I think about that question I'm like, "on paper, this should be terrible" but it's just the opposite and I have no idea why. I know I should just let it go and enjoy, which I mostly do, but there's a code there and I'd love to crack it. Same with Sunn0))). And this is coming from someone who has been writing punk, hardcore and doom for 20 years.
@goldmetaldood
@goldmetaldood 4 жыл бұрын
The Matamp definitely has that dirty fuzz feel, the orange had more clarity, Either way, I say we’re all winners hearing these amazing amps.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Orange maintains more clarity for sure.
@hommedammn7132
@hommedammn7132 4 жыл бұрын
CahLassicSteve , I think the dream setup would be to have both. Green saturation on the left, Orange clarity on the right, and an ear doctor visit at the end of the week.
@explodeder
@explodeder 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a reissue or80 and I know it’s cliche, but it really does something magical when you push the master volume. This demo kept it at noon. It’s not just a mind trick with a loud volume. It really gets amazing even with an attenuator on the amp output.
@caseycbenn
@caseycbenn 4 жыл бұрын
Run a guitar cable splitter into both amps. Fuzz the Green and let the Orange run a little cleaner.. drive at like 10am... then you'll have heavy but note clarity. :)
@FuzzyDancingBear
@FuzzyDancingBear 4 жыл бұрын
@@caseycbenn this is why I need a good second amp. Sounds like FUN
@eldiablo9042
@eldiablo9042 4 жыл бұрын
Green like the weed of course
@Tedris4
@Tedris4 4 жыл бұрын
Green was fuzzier and bassier, Orange was clearer and middier. I feel great results would happen if you bi-amped them together!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
And you would be very correct! Might make a cool demo...
@Psyfonify
@Psyfonify 4 жыл бұрын
@@DoesItDoom One fuzzed out mid scooped bass heavy amp with a sizzling presence and a slightly dulled upper mid-treble attack, blended with a slightly lower gain, raunchy crunchy roaring-mids-only rock n roll tone = big sludge, big crunch, dooms so hard...
@Psyfonify
@Psyfonify 4 жыл бұрын
@@DoesItDoom Its all the bite and clarity and thinned out bottom end from one amp, and all the crushing sludgy fuzz thunder from another. Works like a charm, all that gain but your pick attack still shines through, plus a tiny bit of added chord clarity....gotta get the gain on the biting/crunchy amp to be at that nice sweetspot where its the minimum gain it can be while still not sticking out like a sore thumb against the backdrop of maximum gain wall crumbling destruction, when it comes to that I'll do this and get the big fat high gain scoopy sound out of fuzzes into a SS amp (but still girthy and snarling, just scooped enough to be that classic massive wall of sound thing, you know what i mean )- and then i get the raunchy crunch from my mesa with no gain pedals run into it, so my board is split into two signal flows (and this mesa i have is really like a marshall not a mesa) Added benefit of pedals like the hm-2 and fz-2 sounding better with a non-pedal-affected amp running alongside em
@klinexxx1871
@klinexxx1871 3 жыл бұрын
Biamping Green with Orange would lead to the collapse of the observable Universe.
@erlannderrantem6972
@erlannderrantem6972 4 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the cover of Cuda’s only EP Hellfire. It’s a fine stoner gem for those who don’t know it.
@seanno9744
@seanno9744 Жыл бұрын
Both gnarly but in different ways. The Matamp made me want to pack a bong. The Orange made me want to drink whiskey straight from the bottle
@MDee-db7by
@MDee-db7by 4 жыл бұрын
I really wanna dip my feet in Matamp waters, but they're crazy expensive.
@eternalvoid2678
@eternalvoid2678 4 жыл бұрын
Not really more expensive than an Orange. Considering the Matamps are hand built in the UK and you get to decide how it's voiced if you buy new, I'd say they're very good value. Buying used is also an option of course, I got a 1224 in perfect condition (literally not a speck of dust to be found) with a flight case for 1300 (which is a typical price). Also keep in mind that if you buy new, shipping is included in the price.
@mgorange
@mgorange 4 жыл бұрын
I’m an Orange owner and supporter 100%, IMO for the riff and tuning being played I prefer the Matamp. It has a warmer, bigger tone for the vibe, but it seems to stay in that ballpark indefinitely, whereas the Orange is able to dip into that waist deep but also expand out of that arena too.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Very well put!
@jaredbuck7035
@jaredbuck7035 4 жыл бұрын
The Matamp gives me the chills, nostalgic feels, and some rad thrills 😭😭❤️❤️
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
💚💚
@horse_dog
@horse_dog 4 жыл бұрын
The Matamp wins imo, I may be biased cuz it will always be my dream amp, but I just prefer it over the orange
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. Thanks for watching!
@Soldano999
@Soldano999 4 жыл бұрын
You just realised an old dream of mine thanks. That orange has more clarity but i like the way the green purrs. It has a warm fuzz quality that's just fantastic.
@riffwizzard
@riffwizzard 4 жыл бұрын
Clearly, you must have both simultaneously for maximum results. The mid-range cut and top-end clarity from the Orange combined with the enormous low end and wooly saturation of the Matamp are a match made in tone heaven. For Fog Giant, I get pretty close with my Belov Matamp GTO 200w clone set for maximum depth and girth added to either my Orange AD140 or OR50 set heavily towards mids and highs and lower gain.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice! They do sound awesome in a bi-amped setup for the reasons you mention.
@travissandersasbuttshitjac1458
@travissandersasbuttshitjac1458 3 жыл бұрын
When you turn the bass all the way up on the green amp that sounded wonderful
@FuzzlordEffects
@FuzzlordEffects 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video Steve! Really appreciate you taking the time to do this!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching bro!
@dadahlberg3
@dadahlberg3 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Finally, an actual apples to apples comparison on these amps. Really appreciated your diagram for how the signal paths in the amps differ. It's incredible just how much different they sound. I love them both, probably going to have to get a couple of each. ;)
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 2 жыл бұрын
Did my best to be accurate with it.
@SuperExio
@SuperExio 4 жыл бұрын
We need to get a Green vs Orange vs Model T shootout!!!!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Yes we do!
@iangottmusic
@iangottmusic 4 жыл бұрын
I think when demoing a solo instrument your ear naturally prefers the one that is fuller or more balanced across the whole frequency range(the green?). However that full range tone is often lost or muddies up the mix, when competing with other instruments. I would want to hear how they compare in the mix as well before I decided. Cool amps!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
I think you have a very fair point that is indeed true based on how I see people react to much of the demo work done here on the channel.
@j-venom616
@j-venom616 4 жыл бұрын
Quality content - once again! Keep up good work man!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@aniquinstark4347
@aniquinstark4347 3 жыл бұрын
If nothing else, the Matamp has the quality of being made of unobtanium and collectable as hell.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 3 жыл бұрын
Try www.matamp.co.uk
@Always_in_C_standard
@Always_in_C_standard 4 жыл бұрын
I've wanted to see thos for a loooooong time. Thanks!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry it took me so long to get around to it! Thanks for watching.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Radio Marko thanks so much for watching!
@cjw3129
@cjw3129 4 жыл бұрын
Man they both get down so well it's hard to choose I want them both thanks for sharing the gear
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching man!
@zosojstro
@zosojstro 4 жыл бұрын
Damn they both sound really good to me. Luv your demos!! Thanks
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching man!
@TheAmazingSnarf
@TheAmazingSnarf 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, Steve. I love your channel. while i'm not in the market for a tube amp (my Sunn 300T made sure of that for me), i have owned and loved them and it's super-fun to hear and see a direct comparison like this.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Always thought those 300T’s were awesome. What’s it like?
@TheAmazingSnarf
@TheAmazingSnarf 4 жыл бұрын
@@DoesItDoom the 300T, paired with an 8x10, was more than enough to drown out everyone else in the band with clarity- and we ran with a Model T and a Musicman tube amp of some sort at the same time. many years ago! i miss the amp, it was super-fun to live and play with. i can only hope that the Fender reissues are as solid.
@chriscurran1967
@chriscurran1967 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Steve!!! I liked both amps, they have their differences, but both sounded really cool. Thanks for all your hard work brother!!! 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Chris!
@thomaspagel4434
@thomaspagel4434 4 жыл бұрын
Nice lesson! Thanks!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
@EricMerrow
@EricMerrow 4 жыл бұрын
Dang, for being such a similar circuit, they do sound wildly different! I liked the Matamp because it sounded fuller and maybe like it had a bit more gain, but I also liked the Orange because it sounded clearer and more articulate. I guess the answer is to just run them in stereo or dual mono!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy right? They sound awesome running in stereo.
@rickycompton2610
@rickycompton2610 4 жыл бұрын
Was looking for another tube head the Green Matamp has the lows Steve it will be a must have soon on my list great video bro keep them coming
@user-hv8ye4kf2q
@user-hv8ye4kf2q 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve waited a long time for this
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Hope it delivered!
@konstantinosernestoeconomo3265
@konstantinosernestoeconomo3265 4 жыл бұрын
YES YES YES YES YES FINALLY WOOHOO !!!! I don't why I'm so excited
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Finally is right. Not sure why I put this one off for so long.
@westernfilet
@westernfilet 4 жыл бұрын
Both are great, but I love that Green! You've given me a new goal, Steve! ;)
@mitchellloper1367
@mitchellloper1367 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! That Green sounds nasty! Love it!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! 💚💚
@BC_J0MBI
@BC_J0MBI 4 жыл бұрын
That matamp sounds amazing with all that fuzzy goodness
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty unique.
@DaisyHead666
@DaisyHead666 3 ай бұрын
I come back to this video almost every year to see what i think about it. Funnily I now favor the Orange's more clear and crunchy tone as compared to 2 years ago when I couldnt get enough of the Matamp. I still love the Matamp and would kill to own one, but the clarity and note definition of the OR120 is great.
@BSIII
@BSIII 3 жыл бұрын
Green is my dream amp. Pike's Green Matamp tone is my all time favorite tone.
@Demiglitch
@Demiglitch 10 ай бұрын
More than anything I'm glad it's in a colour that isn't black or tweed.
@100jev
@100jev 4 жыл бұрын
For that Pike sound def the Orange, but I also love the fuzz from the Green⚔️
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
🧡💚
@J0hnSell
@J0hnSell 2 жыл бұрын
10,000 years is the GOD riff, i dont think i ever heard high gain amp test video without it 100%
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 2 жыл бұрын
🤘🏻🤘🏻
@conspiracymountainwizards6796
@conspiracymountainwizards6796 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video, makes me appreciate my OR even more. The Green sound awesome though. If you ever have the possibility to A/B vintage 70' OR vs. Vintage MatAmp I would love that.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
I would love that as well! Thanks for watching.
@davidhuettner222
@davidhuettner222 4 жыл бұрын
Both amps sound great! Never played a Green , but i have a Or-120m from 77', this amp sounds so awesome, Keep it up, Great Comparsion!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@tjsquishface138
@tjsquishface138 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! I've been waiting for this EXACT comparison! The debate has been strong for years...and I still like both equally. :( Also, one closer to 666 thumbs up now.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! Was long overdue for sure.
@tomburden
@tomburden 4 жыл бұрын
Both are awesome! It is tough to choose.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
For sure.
@tomburden
@tomburden 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what they would sound like double tracked with one of each.
@NerdGasims
@NerdGasims 4 жыл бұрын
Great demo video and comparison. They sound similar but each amp has their differences as well. The green is darker sounding and has a fat fuzzy low end where the orange is a bit brighter and has more treble. Can’t go wrong with either
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Both great for sure! Thanks for watching.
@zanderblack5023
@zanderblack5023 4 жыл бұрын
both blended together!!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@paulmaceachern7185
@paulmaceachern7185 4 жыл бұрын
I prefered the Green, but I'm also a fan of Orange. I would love to have either one. Thanks for this vid!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
🧡💚 Thanks for watching!
@Robyn_iz_Here
@Robyn_iz_Here 22 күн бұрын
As an fan of Orange amps... ... i really need that GT120. I wasnt expecting to love more than the Orange but when the gain maxxed out and it sounded like a Big Muff on steroids i knew i needed one
@akastonefaceddog
@akastonefaceddog 4 жыл бұрын
A bit more sludgey sound from the Matamp but both sound incredible so I recon play both together, keep up the great work 👍👍
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻thanks for watching
@kennethdubard9065
@kennethdubard9065 4 жыл бұрын
The Green has a much more distorted tone. Sounds like a square-wave breakup. Many great amps are one trick ponies, imho.
@oddball6992
@oddball6992 3 жыл бұрын
I have an orange or15 hooked up to my custom zilla virtual cab 2x vintage 30’s and I thought 💭 that sounds fuzzy until I heard that green baby go. It’s one dirty beast 👏
@vitaly274
@vitaly274 Жыл бұрын
Great demo! Both amps are iconic. The orange of the amp has brighter mids. What cabinet was used for the demo? And which cabinets, in your opinion, reveal the potential of green amp more?
@fuzzylumpkin49
@fuzzylumpkin49 4 жыл бұрын
I think the Green Amp sounds a bit brighter? They both sound awesome. You're lucky you have both of them and don't have to choose one or the other. :)
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Both sound great. Glad to have them for sure.
@lordimpaler3899
@lordimpaler3899 4 жыл бұрын
I love that Matamp...like it just sounds so gnarly Ive been using a Peavey Classic 20 MH thru a 12inch Sub, and it sounds glorious! It takes pedals really well, and gets LOUD (or loud enough to get the cops called)...pairs really well with a Rangemaster and some P90s
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@Psyfonify
@Psyfonify 4 жыл бұрын
Been a while since ive popped in to the channel as ive been busy loving my own gear (and trying to kick my youtube addiction LOL) awesome vid. Its great to have a guy doin' it right, instead of these unscientific bozo's recording with their cellphone from a vid that was uploaded in 2012 lol I prefer the sound of the matamp. Much more body to the sound, and i prefer the way the gain behaves. I know the orange has that midrange crunch thing going on, but, if you absolutely needed that for a section of a song, i bet if you hit the matamp with a Klon or Tubescreamer type pedal you could easily get it sounding similar to the orange, with a cut low end and thus pronouncing the mids in turn (as its all relative when it comes to EQ) But damn thats an expensive preference lol. Luckily, i get a similar sound out of my SS 120w crate 2x12 combo amp ahah, hey no hate, Kurt Ballou of Converge (love that dude) just put out a (300$ o.O ...pass) signature pedal that is literally just a clone of a crate's preamp circuit in a pedal format, i blame the shitty out of tune Enter Sandman and Nirvana riffs played through their cheaper amps, all throughout the 90s and 2000s, for their tonal reputation lol (and another part of their bad reputation - their crap build quality - admittedly, even the case with their high end stuff - all plastic junk that falls apart, knobs and jacks soldered direct to the circuit board which means one day the amp will simply cease to function until you go and reflow those solder joints, or god forbid the board cracks lol. But, to me, thats all a GOOD thing, if you can find a working one, cause that means the - good - crate stuff is also cheap af now by association, and if yours breaks after only a year of use, well, at least it was only 100$ and you can get another lol)
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I do my best to make the comparison meaningful.
@Psyfonify
@Psyfonify 4 жыл бұрын
@@DoesItDoom Righteous af 👍
@PetParadiseVB
@PetParadiseVB 4 жыл бұрын
Both are fantastic really
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@Gatecreeper69
@Gatecreeper69 2 жыл бұрын
Love both dearly, the orange is to my taste. Thank you for sharing :)
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 2 жыл бұрын
Great amps!
@maddrkieck
@maddrkieck 4 жыл бұрын
Great Job Steve! They both have some tonal similarities, but the Green has this round low end I like. The Orange definitely puts out more treble tones and retains a bit more clarity than the Green does. I think the EQ placement in the amp makes quite the difference. With the Orange, you're EQing before you drive it. Whereas the Green is being driven and then EQ'd. The FAC controller in the chain is also an interesting variable. Personally, I like that big blown out sound the Green puts out. The Orange is still great, but as I love the Dopesmoker tone - Green wins in my book. Cheers!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Very much in agreement with your thoughts here.
@adamr2684
@adamr2684 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I’m not versed in either of these amps and have never played through one. I liked the Mata better as it was done. However we get all our gain from pedals. Which one do you think is the better pedal platform?
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Neither amp is very clean as you can hear but as a general platform I think the orange fairs a little better. With either I tend to run pedals into the Low input with the preamp gain dialed back and the bass boost set around setting 4.
@HigherEnergy
@HigherEnergy 4 жыл бұрын
Just sold my Orange TH30 and got myself a Matamp GT-120 Custom Shop from 2006 in nearly mint condition..still love the Orange though! Would love to own both one day.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Badass!
@Thiccalus
@Thiccalus 4 жыл бұрын
Love your channel bro! Not nearly enough Doom Metal in the world!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate it man. Thanks for watching.
@RDHamel
@RDHamel 2 жыл бұрын
Ah - if it's boxy mids it must be an orange. They've cornered the market in boxy mids. If you want boxy mids get an orange. If you don't want boxy mids don't get an orange. That's the secret of the boxy mids. Orange.
@mikowl5713
@mikowl5713 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the drive on the matamp, I'm thinking the orange may take pedals slightly better though?
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
mikowl I think so.
@mikeman117933
@mikeman117933 4 жыл бұрын
That green works amazing for this tune, i prefer the orange by a hair since i prefer clarity, but neither are weak by any means
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏻thanks for watching!
@chriswakfer4473
@chriswakfer4473 4 жыл бұрын
Green is definitely sludgier! Love it
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
💚
@Xbrayan777X
@Xbrayan777X Жыл бұрын
I wish to see a mini matamp green like the orange ones because I can't afford a green like the one the video, I love this demo, thanks
@SisterRose
@SisterRose 2 жыл бұрын
This is going to sound wild since I know neither used either amp but the Matamp sounds kinda like Kyuss tone and the Orange sounds like QOTSA tone. both very cool and i love how the amps esp. the matamp starts to fart out almost like a fuzz pedal when cranked.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Which amp had the better tone? Drop your thoughts down below in the comments!
@colincain2224
@colincain2224 4 жыл бұрын
Green...hands down.
@TheBullof7battles
@TheBullof7battles 4 жыл бұрын
I like both. I like the upper midrange of the orange. I like the fuzz of the green. If I could afford both, I'd mix them. If I could afford only one, I'd add an eq and a couple pedals.
@Funnychainsaw26
@Funnychainsaw26 4 жыл бұрын
orange, and it would be cool to compare green with the original 70's or120
@kiltymacbagpipe
@kiltymacbagpipe 4 жыл бұрын
The answer is yes. A two amp setup with one of each is the way to go.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely.
@groteandreas1482
@groteandreas1482 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, great comparison, thanks a lot! I got a Laney la30bl and i am quite happy with it. But somehow i feel the itch for a gt120. I know you got an old Supergroup. How does it compare to the Matamp? Is it worth having both? (I know... stupid question, it always is...) Cheers Andi
@hommedammn7132
@hommedammn7132 4 жыл бұрын
Dang. This is just Part 1, right? 6 minutes and you only scratched the surface. For the next videos of this shootout I suggest you cut to each amp after a setting has been changed. All the knob turning took away from the intended comparison/shoot out because that’s too much variation in tone to specifically remember the contrast between the Green and the Orange. I also suggest that you compare the power amps from low volume to high volume by using the return inputs with a clean preamp so that we can hear how that contributes to the overall tone of each amp. I love how this setup sounded. I’m looking forward to the future definitive 45 minute shootout (ha ha!) It’s gonna take A LOT of editing, but it would be a great archival resource.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe!
@hommedammn7132
@hommedammn7132 4 жыл бұрын
Does It Doom? , I hope so, this was so good, I was greedy for much more.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Homme Dammn unfortunately a very long form video like that would not go over very well here on KZbin. But it would still be cool.
@hommedammn7132
@hommedammn7132 4 жыл бұрын
@@DoesItDoom Doom and sludge don't need to bow to an algorithm. (But we don't need you dying from editing either.)
@wolfhandband2930
@wolfhandband2930 4 жыл бұрын
Both amazing amps! I have a tech question about your videos. It says that you are using the Captor. I just picked one up and I was curious about if you have ever had any issues running these high wattage amps into it. I have read about the Matamp GT120 spiking higher than 120 watts when it is hit with a fuzz pedal or other boost, and I would think that would fry the Captor. Also, do you use the same impulse responses for the videos you use the Captor with or do you mix it up?
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
You’ll notice that I rarely run the MV above much above 1/2 way, that is to keep the power output below the 100W rating of the captor. If I ran the OR or GT at full on the MV, I assume it would fry the captor and potentially an output transformer in the process. Typically I use the onboard cabsim on the captor, but you can get great results using their Wall of Sound software, it just takes more time and I like having the consistency of using the same cab sim all the time. I will probably upgrade to the Captor X once it hits the used markets.
@wolfhandband2930
@wolfhandband2930 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply! I figured that was the case. My main amp is an early 70s Ampeg V4, and I have to be careful about the wattage of the speakers I’m running it into. I’ve used the Torpedo Cab before and have a bunch of IRs that I dig, but I always love the tones you get so I thought I would ask. Thanks again!
@legoharry100
@legoharry100 4 жыл бұрын
To my ears, the Green is a bit brighter and tighter in the low end, but the Orange was fatter and more mids. Imagine blending them together for maximum doom.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
They do blend quite well in a bi-amp setup!
@riccardodf6480
@riccardodf6480 4 жыл бұрын
The video I was waiting for. Hi five man!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry it took me so long. Glad you dig it!
@hailmaryrecordings8255
@hailmaryrecordings8255 Жыл бұрын
I really love the looks of the Green amp. It’s awesome. Both sound brutal, but the orange more articulate. Something that a pedal or two could fix. I need to buy a green amp.
@stuartculshaw5342
@stuartculshaw5342 Жыл бұрын
I first came across Green Matamps watching Liverpool's amazing Conan live and feeling my teeth loosen. Watching this video I now understand why. I agree, Green all the way.
@kosmonument2682
@kosmonument2682 Ай бұрын
At this level, a choice of one over the other is just semantics and preference rather than any objective better/worse. I am an Orange devotee who doesn't care about owning genuine vintage amps so I just got an OR30 and called it a day.
@GretchZ
@GretchZ 5 ай бұрын
The Orange having pre-gain EQ and a loop makes it higher on my “would totally use” list. I don’t use tubes anymore, though. Just not my vibe. I’m about fuzzy fizzly, processed, direct to recording or a powered speaker, with some signal bypassing the analog speaker simulation. My rack is like a ball of breeding snakes.
@paradox7743
@paradox7743 4 жыл бұрын
I gotta Green-The Matamp fuckin; DOOMS!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
💚🐐
@guntotinguy16
@guntotinguy16 4 жыл бұрын
Great video...what speakers are you running this through?Thanks...
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Both amps are being recorded through a Two Notes Torpedo Captor reactive load box.
@johnyentes6643
@johnyentes6643 3 жыл бұрын
I was considering the GT120 for a long time, but Opted to go with an OR80 because it was available locally. I am not disappointed in my decision, especially since the 90's reissue Orange Overdrives are all built by Matamp! I love how doomy the Green gets, but the OR80/120 is the most colorful, articulate, and beautiful amplifier I have ever owned. I wouldn't mind having both though! The Orange dooms super hard too people. It takes pedals like a champion as well.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 3 жыл бұрын
Great amps for sure. I’d say the orange is definitely more versatile.
@johnyentes6643
@johnyentes6643 3 жыл бұрын
@@DoesItDoom The matamp has that super Square wave fuzz thing going on though. I honestly don't think I have heard its likeness replicated by another amp.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 3 жыл бұрын
John Yentes yep, that’s exactly the case! I’ve described it the same way in the past. The orange covers a wider spectrum of tones, but it doesn’t go where the Matamp goes.
@BrandonRelkamOfficial
@BrandonRelkamOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
It says C# tuning in the description, but you've got the notes for C standard listed
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Typo. C standard. Fixed thanks.
@BrandonRelkamOfficial
@BrandonRelkamOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
@@DoesItDoom 👍
@antoinedr412
@antoinedr412 9 ай бұрын
I'd be quite curious to have a "does it doom" on a hayden amp, which a matamp engineer worked on
@Slugfuct
@Slugfuct 4 жыл бұрын
Orange wins for me, seems to have a bit more range than the Green. The Green gets fuzzed out too quick where the orange can still get to that territory if pushed but has a bit more versatility
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
🧡 so interesting to hear all the different perspectives.
@wetburgers4023
@wetburgers4023 4 жыл бұрын
is the green both a bass and guitar amp? ive seen it used with both instruments. sorry if that's a noobish question, im still getting in to amps
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Typically people go with the higher wattage versions when wanting to use it for bass (GT150, GT200, etc.)
@HIGGI6
@HIGGI6 3 жыл бұрын
Different but both sound good. I think I like the sound of the Orange a slightly more due to its enhenced clarity.
@Alexroberts666
@Alexroberts666 2 жыл бұрын
I have an OR120(M) - you can pretty much get the OR sounding the same as the GT provided you eq the amp properly and you fiddle with your guitar pickups and tone dials - in fact, there are parts where he's playing the GT and mixing the eqs and it sounds identical to the OR to me
@barbarianpirate
@barbarianpirate 4 жыл бұрын
I like more the Orange the mids are a bit clear and is not that fuzzy. I mean I like fuzz but the matamp it was just a bit too much. But both are killer amps, even for playing else than metal
@solarbuduk
@solarbuduk 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 1977 Orange Overdrive and love it. To my ears, the Orange has a more colourful sound, more “crunch” and more of a classic rock feel. I would love to own a Green Matamp though if I could ever afford it. It has a mean, more “metal” sound and although the drive sounds a bit more “fuzzbox” to me and less smooth than the Orange, I bet that when it’s turned up loud it absolutely rips. Either one beats the pants off something like Marshall for me any day.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
All very true imo!
@averytyler9070
@averytyler9070 4 жыл бұрын
Great video man !!! Both of those amps are amazing I think you should try playing them at the same time and blend them according also just wanted to say long live orange amps !!!
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Avery Tyler they sound great like that.
@averytyler9070
@averytyler9070 4 жыл бұрын
Does It Doom? I bet they do I would love to have a green matamp I would use a splitter and blend it with my orange cr120
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Avery Tyler nice!
@wesleyzimmerman94
@wesleyzimmerman94 3 жыл бұрын
The Matamp has a fuzzy scooped and low end heavy almost Dopethrone type sound which I prefer
@therisendead7
@therisendead7 3 жыл бұрын
Green for Doom...no question.
@dddd717
@dddd717 4 жыл бұрын
They both look so pretty ☺️
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
Right?
@MatchBookNotes
@MatchBookNotes 4 жыл бұрын
We need to get you an ab selector
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
That’s really not the issue. I have one. Gotta run them out of the same cab (or in this case load box) for a true comparison. I was moving the cable so people could more easily tell which amp was in use.
@theriffwizard8751
@theriffwizard8751 4 жыл бұрын
I think the Green sounded better, personally. Had more drive and sounded bigger to me
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
💚🤘🏻
@nastylittlecritter
@nastylittlecritter 4 жыл бұрын
Well, shit...I guess I gotta buy a green amp now. That sounds amazing.
@jianhicks
@jianhicks 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a year late in this showing up in my feed but --WOW!-- I'm surprised how much I prefer the Green.
@Syklonus
@Syklonus 4 жыл бұрын
I like the Green better. It's smoother and less boxy than the Orange. Both could probably be tightened up with a boost pedal, but maybe that's a wasted thought here.
@silverburst3112
@silverburst3112 3 жыл бұрын
Holy hell to get my hands on a green let a lone even see one
@doomtank666
@doomtank666 4 жыл бұрын
I'm an Orange guy...... Matamp wins this shootout for sure.
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 4 жыл бұрын
🤘🏻🤘🏻thanks for watching.
@doobie8425
@doobie8425 Ай бұрын
Which would win volume wise. Matamp gt200 or Ampeg svt 300????????
@Tenitus_atl
@Tenitus_atl 3 жыл бұрын
This specific GREEN all day
@danielcarter3928
@danielcarter3928 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for this! what’s your favorite reasonably priced practice amp for at home? say under $800?
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 2 жыл бұрын
Checkout the Orange OR15, EHX MIG50, Laney AOR series heads and combos. $800 and you should be able to put together a cool little head and cab rig.
@danielcarter3928
@danielcarter3928 2 жыл бұрын
@@DoesItDoom would all those work alright for lowish volume? I just am not able to crank it very often :( , the OR15 looks awesome. any thoughts on the Super Crush 100?
@DoesItDoom
@DoesItDoom 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielcarter3928 I would definitely get one of the amps I mentioned over any of the orange crush / super crush stuff. I don’t really see not being able to crank them as an issue personally.
@danielcarter3928
@danielcarter3928 2 жыл бұрын
@@DoesItDoom thank you! any cab suggestions?
@JulianSeider
@JulianSeider 2 жыл бұрын
My two favorite colors
@turinhorse
@turinhorse 3 ай бұрын
the Orange is just so versatile. Sounds tinny sometimes.. but thick saturated can be dialed in. the Matamp is great but the muddy is hard to remove. i prefer an Orange infront of my favorite pedals.
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