What Is The "Orange" Sound?

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Rhett Shull

Rhett Shull

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@RickBeato
@RickBeato 4 жыл бұрын
Great view video! Especially the amps from my studio :)
@felipetroccoli7809
@felipetroccoli7809 4 жыл бұрын
you've got the good stuff rick!
@RhettShull
@RhettShull 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got dibs on the Matamp
@Claviceptic
@Claviceptic 4 жыл бұрын
@@RhettShull doom away, friend
@shanebrbich5698
@shanebrbich5698 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Rick! Was wondering what was going on! 👍🇦🇺
@bobbystereo936
@bobbystereo936 4 жыл бұрын
@@RhettShull How bout what is the musicman amp sound?
@camdaman93
@camdaman93 4 жыл бұрын
PLEASE TURN THIS INTO A SERIES!!!! So good and so much info, love the addition of Rick to get the more vintage stuff and explain as well. Marshall sound??? Mesa??
@carnovector6396
@carnovector6396 Жыл бұрын
I would eat that shit right up too
@sunnaki
@sunnaki Жыл бұрын
+1 to this please!
@Austin_Bourque_
@Austin_Bourque_ 5 ай бұрын
I don’t think he’d do the scooped mid thrash sounds of the mesa mark series which is “the sound”
@juiceneck69
@juiceneck69 3 жыл бұрын
orange is like marshall’s younger brother that went to jail for a few years and gets in fights
@coopergoss350
@coopergoss350 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@klee_of_c8082
@klee_of_c8082 3 жыл бұрын
Damn that’s funny!
@nikolaus2688
@nikolaus2688 3 жыл бұрын
I rather think of it as Marshall's younger brother who went to college, developed a taste for sophistication, and the finer things, but still looks up to its biker big brother.
@dorianford6227
@dorianford6227 3 жыл бұрын
What a perfect description man
@brandonharris9160
@brandonharris9160 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikolaus2688 way more accurate
@FantasticExplorers
@FantasticExplorers 4 жыл бұрын
"I've got my Orange Crush" - R.E.M.
@stufftie88
@stufftie88 4 жыл бұрын
First Song I played on my crush 120H ;)
@johnharvey4448
@johnharvey4448 3 жыл бұрын
Does the song use an Orange amp ?
@hoagyguitarmichael
@hoagyguitarmichael 4 жыл бұрын
Great history lesson. It brought back memories. When I was thrown out of The Netherlands in 1969 (long story), I went to London and sold my Fender Pro Reverb at the original Orange store. A little while later, I saw the original Fleetwood Mac at a high school gym in London and they were playing a wall of Orange amps.
@wchristian2000
@wchristian2000 2 жыл бұрын
PLEASE tell more of this story
@hoagyguitarmichael
@hoagyguitarmichael 2 жыл бұрын
@@wchristian2000 I was stopped by the police for busking in the streets of Amsterdam. My passport had fallen out of my pocket earlier, so I was arrested and tossed in jail overnight. They let me out the next day to get a new passport and get out of the country. There is much more but it is for my memoirs ;-)
@davegoodridge9458
@davegoodridge9458 4 жыл бұрын
So happy you mentioned Mat. I met him back in the early 70s when I was at high school, our fledgling rock band decided we wanted to record an EP and Mat had a little studio behind Radiocraft (which was a little shop selling valves and parts for TVs and radios run mainly by his wife). The studio cost £3 per hour so we saved up (£3 was 12hrs work at my supermarket part-time supermarket job!) and recorded our epic over three evenings. We all used AC30s at the time (guitar bass and organ) and as lead player I always used my amp at full whack so I could sound like my heroes - Mat insisted we play quiet! Don't worry I'll add some reverberrration (he used to roll his Rs). Over the nine hours we could afford he recorded our efforts on a Toshiba 4 track and finally handed us each a shiny acetate cut on the machine he had in the tiny control room. He was a true gent and treated us five spotty school kids with utmost respect. I met him again a couple of years later in his workshop where he demonstrated his latest design a guitar combo which he said came in either 2X10 or 1X15 - it was the first time I'd seen an amp where you could change between clean and high gain with a footswitch, I swear to this day it's the best sound I've ever heard - you can have one for £450 he said but I'd just gone into debt spending £300 on a Fender Twin (which now lives under the stairs) so I had to refuse, what a mistake!!
@ptfsndsw7028
@ptfsndsw7028 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome story, thanks for sharing.
@effdpaul1815
@effdpaul1815 2 жыл бұрын
My main amp in the early 70s was a 100w (130w) Orange head with a 4x12 cab packed with Altec Speakers. This amp did not break up until turned almost all the way up. It did cut through the crowd in big clubs (I wasn't allowed on the PA system). It did have a great sound when paired with my Gibson SG or with a strat. Very reliable amp most important, it never caught on fire!
@ShamanicSavant
@ShamanicSavant 4 жыл бұрын
@Rhett - You seem like a genuinely decent guy so I'm glad the YT thing is working out for you. Your natural humility is also a good counterbalance to Rick Beato's lack of it. I know he makes up for it in other ways, I just think you guys are a great compliment to each other :)
@hybridnoisebloom
@hybridnoisebloom 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, Rhett, and big props to Beato for getting your classic Orange on, haha. As a fellow Orange owner, I will say this very gently, though--if you're using a 'Marshall in a box' pedal plus a boost to get that Orange sound you think you want to hear, you're not actually hearing the Orange sound. Let the pedals rest. Plug straight into an OR and through a 4x12 with V30s (doesn't even need to be an Orange cab), crank the gain, and even at moderate volume you will hear the Orange sound. I suspect Beato had you going straight in. :)
@weezerman2002
@weezerman2002 3 жыл бұрын
Orange is absolutely a legendary tone. I’d take Orange over Marshall any day.
@AcaRadio
@AcaRadio 4 жыл бұрын
Orange amps were also made very popular by legendary German television show "Beat-Club" (later "Musikladen"). Almost every act that played live in the show from late 1969 to 1973-4 would be plugged in the Oranges - Eric Burdon & War, Ike & Tina Turner, MC5, Free, Jethro Tull, Alice Cooper, Black Sabbath...following the success, Orange decided to open a German subsidiary.
@JCMayPE
@JCMayPE 4 жыл бұрын
I really like Status Quo's April, Spring, Summer and Wednesdays from Beat Club.
@williamstamper442
@williamstamper442 4 жыл бұрын
Dang im from Detroit and the MC5 is pretty much this sound
@tonecontrol
@tonecontrol 4 жыл бұрын
10 gold stars for playing Peter Green ❤️
@sejrec56
@sejrec56 3 жыл бұрын
Wishbone Ash used these quite extensively in the 70s, and a very unique sound. Vintage tube tone but with a very musical quality, w the harmonics making each note sound like it’s a singing voice. Ash really had that ORANGE AMP SOUND imo.
@johnbeloe
@johnbeloe 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Matamp series 3000 is probably the coolest amp I've owned. Such a great sound. If you wanna hear the early fleetwood Mac sound , that's the amp 👍
@Lainer1
@Lainer1 3 жыл бұрын
I love the old Mesa Boogie Tube Amps. And the old Tube Fender Amps, Jazz in particular.
@stevengcarson
@stevengcarson 4 жыл бұрын
My idea of "the Orange Sound" is Wishbone Ash - "Argus"!
@patrickjones9278
@patrickjones9278 4 жыл бұрын
I never knew they used orange! i just assumed they would have used VOX or something. Still, thats actually really cool and argus is one of my favourites!
@charliebe28
@charliebe28 4 жыл бұрын
Steve Carson: ~ The first that I ever heard of Orange amps was when Wishbone Ash had used them for their U.S. tour during the Summer of 1973. (Wishbone Ash only had a "cult following" in the U.S. during that period.) Some guy that I happened to meet at another concert around that time, whom had attended the Wishbone Ash concert, told me that the band was "using some odd amps that just said 'Orange' on them". It was years later before I actually _saw_ some of those amps myself. In the U.S., for a long time they were "just one of those seldom-seen boutique British amp brands" - , like, for instance, Laney Amplifiers.
@scotthutchens1556
@scotthutchens1556 4 жыл бұрын
Steve Carson Mine too! It was a while before I found out what they used on that album. To me the tone was even more British if that’s possible.
@xki3000
@xki3000 3 жыл бұрын
And when I heard the intro to this video, Argus popped right into my head. Saw them live 10 times. Warrior could be an Orange advertisement.
@michaljandera3930
@michaljandera3930 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! To me an "Orange sound" is really good cleans that cross over to really gnarly distortion. It´s just so much more agressive than a Marshall. I own thw Orange Rocker 15 (the combo) and it is awesome.
@Mike_Jones68
@Mike_Jones68 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the cleans are insane...i am lucky to own a 74 OR120 and use it as an unbelievable pedal platform due to the immense cleans when you have to dial it back...it truly is an arena amp if you are to use its gain to break up with the guitar plugged straight in...immense sound
@jeffmcloud
@jeffmcloud 4 жыл бұрын
Orange Dual Dark 50, best amp I have ever played.
@mikemarshall4653
@mikemarshall4653 2 жыл бұрын
The first time I saw Orange was in the late 60's Fleetwood Mac with Peter Green played the Grande Ballroom in Detroit. They did not appear at a store until sometime in the early 70's. The guitarist in the band I was in bought an OR80 with an 8x10 cabinet around 74 the thing was incredible just a great sound
@ryanedwardmusic
@ryanedwardmusic 4 жыл бұрын
Orange = darker/lower mid-range Marshall
@guilhermearoeira8900
@guilhermearoeira8900 4 жыл бұрын
A Marshall that smokes 40 cigars by the morning.
@TheNocturnalEvil
@TheNocturnalEvil 3 жыл бұрын
Laney = Marshall's cousin with anger issues.
@Counterpunchrock
@Counterpunchrock 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like my whole KZbin feed is just people making videos with other people who's video's I haven't clicked on yet.
@jararacain
@jararacain Жыл бұрын
This video was already great and then he got Rick Beato on it to make it legendary. None better than Uncle Rick to explain anything related to music.
@Simbosan
@Simbosan 4 жыл бұрын
Back in the 70's I had an Orange amp, it had a huge 3 or 4 inch dial in the middle for gain, never seen an image of it anywhere. Long gone now.
@nevermind-he8ni
@nevermind-he8ni 4 жыл бұрын
I sold all my Marshalls the day after I bought my first Orange.
@captainbondo6427
@captainbondo6427 4 жыл бұрын
Brought back vision's of Snowy White.
@vruz
@vruz 4 жыл бұрын
Did Snowy use Oranges when he played with Pink Floyd and/or Roger Waters too?
@SteveGouldinSpain
@SteveGouldinSpain 2 жыл бұрын
The Orange bass sound is terrif too. Best recorded bass sound I can get is from the balanced out on the Orange 500w head.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 3 жыл бұрын
0:10 sounds like the melody from Round Midnight
@OutkastedRadikal
@OutkastedRadikal 3 ай бұрын
I just had no regret at all for choosing the Orange Crush 20 🍊
@mrmsmdjp
@mrmsmdjp 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Rhett, great video. I started playing guitar around Kent Ohio in say, 1968. Walsh was playing in a band called the Measles, A cat named Glen Swartz left the James Gang for Pacific Gas & Electric, Joe filled that spot, and Phil Keggy was breaking big with Glass Harp. Both JW and PK used twin amps with SRO speakers. Not sure about GS. I used two Thomas Organ "Vox" solid state amps: a Beatle and a Royal Guardsman. The guys in the Measles sold them out of their band house; still in the shipping crates. I saw Zappa using Orange amps. I was on a mission. The Orange amp I was digging blew up as I tried it in the music store. The power tubes actually caught on fire. All of the guitar cats I asked about Orange amps had a similar story. To me the Orange sound is a piercing high mid squeal with a hint of Doppler effect. Sorta' like an approaching fire engine! Cheers you guys!
@eyedunno8462
@eyedunno8462 4 жыл бұрын
That early Matamp sound is orgasmic. Oh. My. God.
@YoungMasterpiece
@YoungMasterpiece Жыл бұрын
I'm not particularly eager to google music, sometimes I can't remember at once but eventually, I figure out what song it is, I love that song you played or cloned at the start of the video, great sound btw.
@timhicks9508
@timhicks9508 3 жыл бұрын
I have never been able to play my OR120 at full volume but even at 50-60% it takes your breath away. I never really rated 1970s Marshall's as The Orange sounded so much better to my ears. Not that I could afford either at the time! I got the OR120 in the 1980s when they were out of fashion, for £80.
@Mike_Jones68
@Mike_Jones68 2 жыл бұрын
Same here on my 120...ive opened it up but it nearly destroys the house w/a 4x12 lol...but i kean the clean aspect of this amp is unreal, truly 2nd to none imo...its a beautiful pedal platform for those of us that cant clear arena gigs each weekend Ha!
@beatlejuice5951
@beatlejuice5951 3 жыл бұрын
Hope to see Marshall Mesa boogie and Engl sound videos next. Super cool video.
@GregoryPearsonMusic
@GregoryPearsonMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I love that sound you started the video with. Its perfect - just what my brain craves from an electric guitar, but can never achieve from my ancient vox. My model T didn't do very well in the drag race either. The actual sound with over-drive sounded like something was eq'd out.
@johnbarber3499
@johnbarber3499 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rhett, the AD-30 was a really great amp as well, I played it with 2x12 Orange cab ( Cab had 1 V-30 and g12 h 30 ) and it was killer.
@aronhallam6449
@aronhallam6449 3 жыл бұрын
great sound on the 70s models . my understanding is that they took apart a marshall to compare it when designing their first amps, and the difference is something to do with the output transformer.
@jacobbaker7222
@jacobbaker7222 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Love the descriptions and the rich history being presented in your video! Your knowledge and professionalism has earned my subscription!
@adrienlerouge9887
@adrienlerouge9887 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with orange is that they are constantly discontinuing their amps
@Sharkbate211
@Sharkbate211 4 жыл бұрын
And expensive for the good ones
@adrienlerouge9887
@adrienlerouge9887 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sharkbate211 If you have a delay and reverb pedal enough patience you can get some killer tones out of the micro terror
@クリッ-p4u
@クリッ-p4u 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. I had their crush 20dlx I think that's the name, multieffects amp. It died and couldn't find a brand new one.
@Sharkbate211
@Sharkbate211 4 жыл бұрын
@@adrienlerouge9887 yeah that's true, when I used amplitube the terrors were great, proving my comment at least a tad wrong
@Bonkgar_
@Bonkgar_ 3 жыл бұрын
This man just called us broke in 65 different language there just by using an Orange
@sonsauvage
@sonsauvage 4 жыл бұрын
To me they are Marshalls and 1 on the fizz. I dont like the sound for myself but people make them sound fantastic
@NoBozosAllowed
@NoBozosAllowed 3 жыл бұрын
I had a original OR120 from the 70's, loudest amp I have ever owned!
@AjvarRelish
@AjvarRelish 3 жыл бұрын
That intro was amazing! Loved it!
@mattcoil4242
@mattcoil4242 8 ай бұрын
Turn the gain up ! Mostly clean sound with occasional overdrive. Orange amps are meant to be cranked, mostly used by heavy rock/metal/stoner The playing and information are great but I felt that there wasn't enough emphasis on the higher gain aspects of the amp
@GuitarStudioA
@GuitarStudioA 4 жыл бұрын
I've worked with Fender, Marshall, Orange, Sound City Amps, they're all good; obviously Fender have different characteristics, the English Amps have a really nice mid range, works well on stage, but they're all similar enough where it's not important, the player at that point is the difference. Also, Orange Amps are a little on the heavy side (you really need roadies), etc. Regarding live work, the sound mixer is the difference; try a performance where the sound person is asleep at the helm, once you turn up, the drums disappear into the background unless there's good mix going on!
@dsvideoWashington
@dsvideoWashington 2 жыл бұрын
Sound City! 👍👍👍👍
@miketuttle3253
@miketuttle3253 3 жыл бұрын
Had an AD 30 twin channel 2x12, ran it through an attenuator, cranked the master, played my then lp custom with t tops. Absolutely the most wrong home rig ever, but damn if that wasn’t the best rock sound through channel one. Wish I still had it.
@Kmuggle
@Kmuggle 3 жыл бұрын
There's a little Peter Atanasoff from Tito & Tarantula in that intro!
@toubakiful
@toubakiful 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Rhett great video aand truly enlightening as to the real sound of a vintage orange ( ...soundcard permitting)!! -Isn't it Rick Beato in front of a stack of oranges - if not he is certainly a perfect ..clone of Rick? Looking forward for some more great videos on historic amps!!!
@cosmicprison9819
@cosmicprison9819 3 жыл бұрын
You hear it all across the mainstream media: Orange Amp Good. 😊
@SermonFapple
@SermonFapple 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought orange had the best "pick definition response" for lack of better words.
@MClark-bv9tn
@MClark-bv9tn 4 жыл бұрын
Man so many sounds and things to experiment with😉 Rhett you play so 👍
@mathaus101
@mathaus101 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, love the music at the start of the vid, sounds silky smooth and the bass fits so well! Could listen to that all day! What song is that I wonder?
@mulefan1977
@mulefan1977 2 жыл бұрын
Do you use reverb and delay in front of the ad30? Great video!!
@RoebenVZyl
@RoebenVZyl 3 жыл бұрын
would you be able to maybe do a vid on effects like reverb and delay and multi fx pedals as well stomp boxes??
@ezo4
@ezo4 4 жыл бұрын
Fender twin2 - 110watt - that's my baby's - this one looks cool too
@njineermike
@njineermike 3 жыл бұрын
The orange sound = loud as fuck and crystal clear.
@kenglass7833
@kenglass7833 3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Page had one of those Oranges at the Celebration Day show at the O2
@cavemanriffs
@cavemanriffs 3 жыл бұрын
orange best sound for stoner/doom stuff
@1minutecomicswalahollywood648
@1minutecomicswalahollywood648 11 ай бұрын
Nice Channel. ❤
@crlaw75
@crlaw75 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Rick Beato.
@williambennett5299
@williambennett5299 2 жыл бұрын
hey some peter green to start the vid off, nice
@fredsanford7619
@fredsanford7619 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of psychedelic band tone
@kmw5100
@kmw5100 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care much at all for the original matamp and other early orange sound. To me, the Orange TH30 and Rockerverb are more to my tastes. But I'm a modern highgain lover, so that probably goes without saying.
@jasondotj
@jasondotj 2 жыл бұрын
You and Rick Beato should review amps that an average guitar player can afford. :)
@jfjones1105
@jfjones1105 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried the terror stamp?
@gwugluud
@gwugluud 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a demo of a West Amplification amp, from the early 70s. I'm only aware of them because the "Grand Funk Live" album cover shows a West stack. I've always been super curious about that dev. That would be crazy if West came back, lol. Maybe West sucked, but I kind of doubt that. If West did fall off the face of the earth after making amps for, like, 5 minutes for a good reason, then I'd be curious to know that as well. I thought the photo of the West stack looked cool, and it's always stuck with me.
@Black-Jack-2022
@Black-Jack-2022 3 жыл бұрын
I watched your video on turning down to E flat on a strat! Can you show how to tune it with a tuner?
@Patchy_PC
@Patchy_PC 2 жыл бұрын
BEATO!
@fagyu7502
@fagyu7502 3 жыл бұрын
Might just be me but theres some rawness about the orange amps that I just dont like Marshalls and Fenders sound a lot more refined to me.
@fivewattworld
@fivewattworld 4 жыл бұрын
Man you got got some great guitar sounds here! Very interesting.
@ShamanicSavant
@ShamanicSavant 4 жыл бұрын
Well, there goes your "Orange Amps: A Short History" :)
@jordandangelo180
@jordandangelo180 3 жыл бұрын
That would be an awesome episode of Short History Of....I can’t think of a much better brand to do a short history on that hasn’t already been done that has such a storied history. A Short History of Dumble would be the ultimate. But the Trainwreck and Tube screamer episodes are my favorite. I’ve been watch five watt world since the beginning and I always knew it was an intellectual notch above most other guitar content. Keith reminds me of a really cool College professor that you learn a lot from and act silly enjoy their lectures.
@MLGballyMeisterSamBall
@MLGballyMeisterSamBall 3 жыл бұрын
The best thing about Orange amps, outside of that they sound ace, is that my wife was like, ooh, that looks nice, when I bought one home instead of giving the incoming object an accusing scowl.
@smirgyjoker2484
@smirgyjoker2484 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought my orange amp (bass 25) and I'm loving it. The looks and the nice fuzz tone is to die for (I may have a new addiction).
@unclefoiley819
@unclefoiley819 3 жыл бұрын
I bought my wife a Orange practice amplifier. She loves it. I steal it occasionally and now I'm gonna buy one. Lol!!
@allan-shephard
@allan-shephard 3 жыл бұрын
Haha. Now I have to try this. For science of course :D
@JRoss-zxzx
@JRoss-zxzx 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Good to know
@laa0fa502
@laa0fa502 3 жыл бұрын
You can buy both micro terrors too because "it's so cute you have matching amps on your speaker!" And too be fair it is
@DavidDiMuzio
@DavidDiMuzio 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you're making a video about these amps. I've seen them around for years but I've never really understood what their "Sound" was.
@guitaristssuck8979
@guitaristssuck8979 4 жыл бұрын
"Him" who? "Them" who?
@guitaristssuck8979
@guitaristssuck8979 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bacardi_shake he's trying to...
@whatyoumakeofit6635
@whatyoumakeofit6635 4 жыл бұрын
@@guitaristssuck8979 tim too ? Whim whoo ?
@guitaristssuck8979
@guitaristssuck8979 4 жыл бұрын
@@whatyoumakeofit6635 lol
@spacejamgoliath
@spacejamgoliath 4 жыл бұрын
@@guitaristssuck8979 dude does being an asshole make you feel better? Its obvious what he meant
@MattMcloughlin
@MattMcloughlin 4 жыл бұрын
When I think Orange, i think fuzzy, hairy, and intentionally "loose" sounding, without any pedals to get any of those characteristics. It's why they work so well for doom, sludge and old school sounding rock/metal.
@eto_fedos
@eto_fedos 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Pike's guitar is what I think Orange sounds like
@Syklonus
@Syklonus 4 жыл бұрын
"Crackly and flabby" is the term that comes to my mind. This is in a good way of course.
@sirkayda7205
@sirkayda7205 4 жыл бұрын
I think they're more throaty and vocal compared to Marshalls.
@iloveitall
@iloveitall 4 жыл бұрын
The same to me. It is horrible how undefined they are. Always fizzy and overpriced.
@lawngnome412
@lawngnome412 4 жыл бұрын
Thats what i have grown to love about Orange. That fuzzy more open more loose style gain over that fizzy tight "modern metal" gain. Right from the amp, no "put an od in front and there you go" really needed
@ArturBrzozowski444
@ArturBrzozowski444 4 жыл бұрын
4:36 Wild Rick Beato appears and starts turning up the knobs
@williamhively3295
@williamhively3295 4 жыл бұрын
This comment made me FF to it. Ha!
@GeoZero
@GeoZero 4 жыл бұрын
Would be funny to see a whole series where Rick Beato shows up randomly at studios and gigs and turns up knobs. :)
@chrisattigliato1
@chrisattigliato1 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@DIYTFY
@DIYTFY 4 жыл бұрын
Dick Beatoff
@jackson63
@jackson63 4 жыл бұрын
lol I saw him, took me by complete surprise lol
@gollumthewicked
@gollumthewicked 3 жыл бұрын
To me, a big part of the orange sound is how all the vintage models kept the EQ network early in the circuit (just after the first gain stage). Sure, early Marshalls were the same way, but Marshall copied the fender tone stack design (which was directly pulled from the RCA manuals), while Orange ran a slightly different variant, in which instead of the bass (and mid) running in series with the treble it runs more in parallel, with both bass and treble wipers feeding the next gain stage. But what does that matter or mean? Well in practice the 5F6-A Bassman/Fender circuit has an EQ with much cleaner segmentation. If you lower the treble, only the high frequencies from about 1-2k upwards are altered. By contrast, when you lower the treble on an OR120, the lower frequencies actually INCREASE. Now, this might not mean much since you can always "turn the bass down" to suit, but it's important to point out again that this tone stack is EARLY in the circuit. The Orange amps are known for their warm, sometimes fuzzy tone, and I think this is part of it. Unless you have the FAC and boost removing MOST of the lows, and the treble knob CRANKED, it's giving you lots of low end that feeds into the real gain stages (the OR120 has three gain stages in total). Simply put, it's actually rather difficult to get clean/tight bottom end through the circuit when cranked. As to the point about Oranges having "more mids". I think Rick and Rhett started getting to the real point when talking about the shift of the mids. Many people find Marshall amps (especially the JCM800, which has an EQ late in the circuit and a cathode follower design), to be VERY mid-heavy amps, but the mids are in a completely different frequency range. As one might expect, Matamp coming from a background of making radio amps and similar, the OR120 produces very even mids, and if you put a spectrum analyzer on it, you'll see there's little, if any, mid db boost over the low frequencies, and the mids largely follow with the lows. By comparison, Marshalls have a mid push, but it's way up around 800-1k, and if you "cut" the mids, it only has a significant impact around 600hz+. The guitar is a mid-focused instrument, and we've come to expect that emphasis from most amps, but the orange amps have a strong presentation of the 200-500hz range, which is a bit different than most. This is really where that "more mid" thing comes from. It's not "more", it's just a lot less of upper mids than we're used to, which gives it this real throaty honk that's unique. To me, that's the "orange sound".
@Bob-of-Zoid
@Bob-of-Zoid 3 жыл бұрын
Well it is more on the 200W ones!! Those will take the curls out of your hair when cranked! (
@Mike_Jones68
@Mike_Jones68 2 жыл бұрын
Great write up on the history here
@Vishnu-xn4vx
@Vishnu-xn4vx 2 жыл бұрын
That classic throaty mids of the Doom Metal scene 😋
@cocvhecv
@cocvhecv 2 жыл бұрын
This is the greatest comment I've ever read on youtube
@ag6478
@ag6478 Жыл бұрын
This is the smartest thing I've ever heard in the amp community
@david10006
@david10006 3 жыл бұрын
The first time I ever spotted Orange amps was the very first time I heard/witnessed Black Sabbath in an old video of them doing "Paranoid", after that I always associated the name with the coolest guitar sound on earth.
@justicefxx
@justicefxx 3 жыл бұрын
a common misconception though, it was back line promotional equipment the tv studio was outfitted with. Tony was, has always been exclusively Laney Amps. I got an Orange anyway. ;)
@firemarshal2629
@firemarshal2629 3 жыл бұрын
Yea sadly tony has said several times they never played orange amps live
@BigTyronie
@BigTyronie 3 жыл бұрын
Theres a video of tony playing an orange pre sabbath in the band earth. He was played the clip and went oh, i guess ive used them a bit. Debunked
@abhinandanmandal4754
@abhinandanmandal4754 4 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that this is kinda becoming a series
@RhettShull
@RhettShull 4 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely becoming a series
@joseph_lacy
@joseph_lacy 4 жыл бұрын
Rhett Shull hell yeah!
@liamouziel211
@liamouziel211 4 жыл бұрын
@@RhettShull oh fuxk yea lets go
@fadeskywards1245
@fadeskywards1245 4 жыл бұрын
@@RhettShull Yeaah
@boyscoutguitarist3921
@boyscoutguitarist3921 4 жыл бұрын
@@RhettShull lol
@hyperstimmed
@hyperstimmed 4 жыл бұрын
Orange amps sound like they're giving you a big warm hug, while also flipping you off
@alexjauxier
@alexjauxier 4 жыл бұрын
This comment wins
@michaelcraig9449
@michaelcraig9449 4 жыл бұрын
What a soyboy thing to say
@juanes8931
@juanes8931 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcraig9449 tf does that mean
@Luke-yv6uo
@Luke-yv6uo 7 ай бұрын
@@michaelcraig9449Oh look, a clown throwing around the term “soy boy” for no apparent reason. Not a surprise coming from a chunker who wears fedoras.
@kjylha
@kjylha 4 жыл бұрын
what is "vox" sound mighty be good next on this series
@GregoryPearsonMusic
@GregoryPearsonMusic 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to hear how a Vox could be optimized as well!
@bobbylloyd9208
@bobbylloyd9208 4 жыл бұрын
I run my vox ac30 and or15 in stereo. It makes a rich tone. Having medium gain on the or15 and light gain on the vox, it is my favorite tone I have found.
@LTD-7
@LTD-7 4 жыл бұрын
*Both my amps are Vox and you just can't get a better sound with on board effects that are superior to others! I also have a Vox Mini Stack that is totally sweet*
@CaptainCraigKWMRZ
@CaptainCraigKWMRZ 4 жыл бұрын
Mighty??
@canuck81
@canuck81 4 жыл бұрын
I always found Vox too heavy on the high frequencies. I prefer fender amps myself.
@johnashmore3560
@johnashmore3560 4 жыл бұрын
You’re such a great storyteller Rhett. Truly. You and Rick are getting me through this pandemic. Keep it up!
@johnfrenette
@johnfrenette 4 жыл бұрын
John Ashmore tack on Tom Bukovac and it really doesn’t feel all that bad staying in and laying low
@jasonkhavari4792
@jasonkhavari4792 4 жыл бұрын
I love Orange amps, they're my favorite brand by far. Great idea for a video to talk about what exactly the Orange "sound" is though, because it's tough to pin down. When I think of it, I always think of a more gritty, fuzzy type of the typical 60's British overdrive sound. And it's almost like these amps "ghost" what you play, like a super quick delay of sorts. It's a thick, but spacious sound overall.
@georgefromgreece4119
@georgefromgreece4119 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on comment!
@andyp5743
@andyp5743 3 жыл бұрын
Orange amps and Wolfmother riffs! That’s all you need. 😆
@AJvsEverything
@AJvsEverything 3 жыл бұрын
I was looking through the comments hoping someone would mention the song, and as soon as you said Wolfmother I could hear the lyrics that go with the riff...I knew I recognized it, but I'm bad with picking out songs from riffs...
@cdemike7517
@cdemike7517 4 жыл бұрын
Also WAY into this becoming a series. That Hiwatt on the rack gets me thinking about a potential future episode...
@c.f.mixolydian8926
@c.f.mixolydian8926 4 жыл бұрын
DEFINITELY! I feel like Hiwatt doesn’t get the recognition that they deserve. Like cmon, Pete Townshend, and David Gilmour (among others)? Hiwatt definitely deserves a video, no discussion...
@saintrhoads3375
@saintrhoads3375 4 жыл бұрын
EP.33 "What is the Kemper Sound?"
@Gman-df5ft
@Gman-df5ft 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely hiwatt rocks hard!
@jayh.8676
@jayh.8676 4 жыл бұрын
+1 on the Hiwatt
@Cole-ek7fh
@Cole-ek7fh 4 жыл бұрын
i want a sovtek amp episode.
@DonnDeVoreMusic
@DonnDeVoreMusic 4 жыл бұрын
I love an Orange! my first cabinet was an old Orange 4x12. I got it used for $100 in 1989. it painted black but it sounded good. I didn't know what it was so I traded it for a brand new Crate 4x12 a year later... huge mistake. years later in the 2000s I recorded a lot of Orange amps in studios working with bands. always loved that thick sound. never sell gear kids. you'll always regret it. just keep hoarding.
@georgewilliams9531
@georgewilliams9531 4 жыл бұрын
Your absolutely right I traded a 1969 Marshall super lead in the late 80s for rack gear GSP 2101 from digi tech when the rack systems were all the rage..and I'm still crying I still have all my Ibanez pedals from 1981 including the tube screamer I had all those pedals in a box in my attic and they still work
@thejoetandy
@thejoetandy 4 жыл бұрын
The 2 X LTD edition Musicman Stingrays I sold when times were (temporarily) tough hit me hard whenever I think about selling gear. Sell kidneys, keep gear
@jcarroyo200181
@jcarroyo200181 3 жыл бұрын
Surprising I read your message now I am keeping my Orange Amp its loud using my 4x12 Marshall vintage cab
@pahema472
@pahema472 4 жыл бұрын
Hartley Peavey founded Peavey Electronics in 1965, having built his first amplifier in 1957. Peavey Electronics is privately owned. (Wikipedia) How is it you "Americans" always forget this monster AND legendary amp manufacturer when you talk about amps? What would blues, rock and metal music be without the sound of a Peavey? How many got their early chops through a Peavey Bandit? Don't even get me started on the Classic, the 5150/6505, the XXX/JSX(3120/XXXII), the Butcher, the Windsor, the Valveking, the Vypyr, Invective, and don't let's forget aaaallllll those amazing bass amps ... ... sheesh ... I'm out of breath, ... I gotta go ... cheers from Downunder ... \m/
@DJPenguino51
@DJPenguino51 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot the Mace which really put Peavey in the spotlight in the 1970's. Lots of Southern Rock bands used the Mace.
@gregmoss8253
@gregmoss8253 4 жыл бұрын
Shh, they're still affordable!
@fredstevens799
@fredstevens799 4 жыл бұрын
@ Pa HeMa: yah, I've got an early VTA-400 (Super Festival Series) monster - 200 RMS watts with 4 15" speakers in two matching Peavey cabs. Used to use it as a bass amp (wall art now...) - awesome sound! I sent a pic of it to Mr. Peavey and he sent a story about how he designed it (it has the the first intentional preamp tube overdrive) after hearing and buying an early LPB-1 single transistor boost/overdrive pedal from Mike Matthews at NAMM and taking it apart in his hotel room! He said it blew minds at the next year's NAMM show when he introduced it! G'day mate!
@Cole-ek7fh
@Cole-ek7fh 4 жыл бұрын
we don't talk about peavey because peavey is a league of it's own.
@electromancer2645
@electromancer2645 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using Peavy for years. Currently using a 6505+
@misterknightowlandco
@misterknightowlandco 4 жыл бұрын
The Orange sound, to me, is the sound of an EHX Big Muff into an amp with tons of low end 😆. Doooooooooom
@guitaristssuck8979
@guitaristssuck8979 4 жыл бұрын
Close enough
@saintrhoads3375
@saintrhoads3375 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, except the existence of a mid-range
@Ae0liann
@Ae0liann 4 жыл бұрын
Nice pfp
@pahwraith
@pahwraith 3 жыл бұрын
@@saintrhoads3375 so an sd1/ts9 into a big muff. Gotcha.
@saintrhoads3375
@saintrhoads3375 3 жыл бұрын
@@pahwraith or a deluxe muff 😂
@wakjob961
@wakjob961 4 жыл бұрын
Orange "cleans" will surprise the heck out of even the most diehard Fender nut....like me.
@vruz
@vruz 4 жыл бұрын
I approve this message.
@vruz
@vruz 3 жыл бұрын
@SplinterCellRocks Oranges are good for you.
@TheElrondo
@TheElrondo 3 жыл бұрын
Even i don't want to agree... It's the truth. I was totally baffled when tested an Orange amp clean.
@justsomemincedgarlic
@justsomemincedgarlic 3 жыл бұрын
The clean tones are the whole reason I bought the ad30 twin channel. Beautiful clarity
@harrysachs2274
@harrysachs2274 3 жыл бұрын
There is a KZbinr named Mary Spender (I think that's her last name), she uses orange amps exclusively She gets wonderful clean tones from her amps.
@adamcalmis3699
@adamcalmis3699 4 жыл бұрын
"It's Jimmy Page approved!"
@craigridley9618
@craigridley9618 4 жыл бұрын
No need for orange to rerelease the or120- Matamp is still making their amps in Huddersfield, UK. Albatross by Peter Green/ Fleetwood Mac was recorded with an s2000. that clean is just mind melting for me. The current equivalent is an s3000 (they basically changed the depth selector to a potentiometer). That said, they still make fuzzy doom monsters, like the gt120! a good place to hear them being pushed is Dopesmoker by Sleep!!
@sadhvacman7238
@sadhvacman7238 4 жыл бұрын
The Toadies guitarist uses Orange and they have that really distinct feedback sound. No point. Just talking to myself.
@saigalasrecords2664
@saigalasrecords2664 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad orange man bad
@DallasGunther
@DallasGunther 3 жыл бұрын
Great band, way underrated
@guitarprepnplus1
@guitarprepnplus1 3 жыл бұрын
Orange lives matter
@carterheekin1974
@carterheekin1974 3 жыл бұрын
Love them
@jamesprisciandaro3144
@jamesprisciandaro3144 3 жыл бұрын
Which models?
@cr4shmycar118
@cr4shmycar118 3 жыл бұрын
For me, Orange is forever tied to The Pillows. Like so many other American fans, I first heard their music in FLCL, and it blew me away with how amazing it is on its own and how integral it is to the feeing of the series. The legendary riff of Ride On Shooting Star, the determination and defiance of I Think I Can, the driven melancholy of Last Dinosaur, all of them are ingrained into my brain. I can never forget The Pillows, and Orange is one of the things that made their distinctive alt-rock shine.
@oobernoober7617
@oobernoober7617 Жыл бұрын
Same with me man, the moment the amp was turned on I immediately heard The Pillows! Amazing music used for FLCL and great J Rock Beatles inspired sound!!
@geetarman513
@geetarman513 Жыл бұрын
Rhett is such a good guitarist, you could plug him into an 80s solid state Crate and it would sound good
@ivolkovs88
@ivolkovs88 8 ай бұрын
Orange are quiet popular in japanese rock (not jrock). progband "toe" uses Orange too. Well oranges are popular throughout prog bads
@jacobdejongh9042
@jacobdejongh9042 4 жыл бұрын
The bass playing was great man! Idiomatic and really didn't seem like a guitar player playing bass!
@purenonsense7296
@purenonsense7296 4 жыл бұрын
As a bass player I agree. Not every guitar player can play bass well. Rhett does.
@RhettShull
@RhettShull 4 жыл бұрын
That’s the best compliment I’ve gotten in a long time, thank you!
@cameronblanchette6687
@cameronblanchette6687 4 жыл бұрын
Yea I was pleasantly surprised he wasnt playing with a pick.
@DemoDick1
@DemoDick1 4 жыл бұрын
I’m convinced that guitar players who want to play bass correctly have to engage a different part of the brain to pull it off. Some can, some can’t. But the ones who can? I hate those guys.
@STRATMAN1969
@STRATMAN1969 4 жыл бұрын
@@DemoDick1 yes the drummer side .I started on guitar got the basics moved to drums ,then when a buddys band needed a bass player I said i'll do it .I found that early foundation really helped mold what kind of bassest I am.
@sassulusmagnus
@sassulusmagnus 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, how about HIWATT. I'm not yelling. They spell it all caps.
@1tdillon
@1tdillon 4 жыл бұрын
I second that. HIWATT is another amp that doesn't get enough love. Using some HIWATT IRs and really love the dynamics (yes, chasing the Gilmour tone).
@Otis-Isom
@Otis-Isom 4 жыл бұрын
Rhetts definitely gonna do a HIWATT video. He’s a pretty big fan so id be surprised if he didnt
@NashTheGreat
@NashTheGreat 3 жыл бұрын
They spell it that way, so we must YELL everytime we say HIWATT
@JoshBattershell
@JoshBattershell 3 жыл бұрын
He just made a video on them a week ago.
@troyraywalker
@troyraywalker 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a video of the Sunn amps Rick has. Maybe help him out with that Doom Metal Amps video he was wanting to do
@NorgGrimm
@NorgGrimm 4 жыл бұрын
Now tht I am studying electricl engineering in a university I guess I should build my owm Orange clone from scratch :D
@4ntiIvIon
@4ntiIvIon 4 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what I've done! I've built an Orange Overdrive as a 15 Watt El84 Amp with a Footswitchable FAC - my favourite amp now.
@allstopblue5717
@allstopblue5717 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes you should my friend.
@christopherbalmforth2514
@christopherbalmforth2514 4 жыл бұрын
Do us all a favour please
@glueforall
@glueforall 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, and as a courtesy to someone you dont even know...send mine (your "prototype" to:.... :)
@russv380
@russv380 3 жыл бұрын
Brings back memories. I bought my 1962 Strat in the Orange shop around 1975. I later purchased an Orange 120w 'Graphic' amp (top amp in video) from a shop further along Charing Cross Road. It was built like a tank!
@Mishkacat123
@Mishkacat123 2 жыл бұрын
I also bought a graphic 120 from them in '74 and still have it and it still works perfectly!
@jordandangelo180
@jordandangelo180 4 жыл бұрын
I have an a OR15 I use as my main amp with an Orange 1x12 cab. I also own Fenders, Katanas and I’ve owned Marshall’ and Vox’s. Every time I’m ready to pull the trigger on a new amp I think is better or cleaner sounding I plug straight into the Orange and I wind up not buying a new amp. I play it with pedals but I truly feel it’s one of the only amps you can really play without any pedals and get a full range of tones on a single channel. If you use your guitars volume knob a lot this is the amp for you. The dynamics are incredible.
@georgefromgreece4119
@georgefromgreece4119 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed! Nicely said!
@Octopus502
@Octopus502 4 жыл бұрын
Matamp's still around, and building amps. You know those Green amps? They aren't "some copy" they are the real deal, they are matamp's "reissue" line.
@OCTAVEDIVIDER
@OCTAVEDIVIDER 3 жыл бұрын
Aren't they pricey as hell tho??? As in seriously drain the pockets for one?
@BubSands
@BubSands 2 жыл бұрын
The orange sound is: Peter Green
@justinberry1035
@justinberry1035 3 жыл бұрын
From first hear i love the orange sound its almost mesmerizing,but has a darker,fuzzy tone to it kinda reminds me of an old black and white movie. I think im gonna get one as my first amp
@auntjenifer7774
@auntjenifer7774 Жыл бұрын
Did you get any orange amps !? The crush get rave reviews by I didn't get along with my CR120 head and every one with their smaller cr20 and cr35 have had them blow up, burn up and pop power sections and pop caps in the pre amp section. My orange CR120 head even popped a cap in the pre amp section and I fixed it by replacing it and then sold it😅 Just gambled on an OR15 head so we'll see what happens after a good burn in😂
@tobynobel5671
@tobynobel5671 4 жыл бұрын
I recently just the other day found a ORANGE Mirco Terror at a thrift store for $5! Lol
@azbluesdog
@azbluesdog 4 жыл бұрын
I paid more than that to replace the preamp tube in my Micro Terror. What a steal!
@fuckenps3
@fuckenps3 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, they mustn't have understood anything about amps to price that way.
@CaptainCraigKWMRZ
@CaptainCraigKWMRZ 4 жыл бұрын
Take it back.
@stevep4358
@stevep4358 4 жыл бұрын
You should've haggled them down more ...🤔
@nathanblades3395
@nathanblades3395 4 жыл бұрын
😮
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