Finding our BOAT for the GREAT LOOP at the Baltimore Trawlerfest

[@captainmother1268]

Thanks for the video - As you found out, you don't really want a new boat - plenty of options on the used market that will work just fine. You will lose a lot less money if you find a boat where the steep part of depreciation is already passed. Remember that boats are NOT investments, ever. Also remember that there is no such thing as a "perfect" boat. But you will will find something that is a perfect fit for you at this point in your journey. Have fun!

[@jimranney2130]

If this is your first boat, I would recommend talking to an insurance broker first. It’s not like a car…you don’t want to buy first and then find out you cant’t get it insured. A lot of companies will limit their coverage to a smaller boat and/or something less than 20 years old. To other’s comments, we just bought a 20 year old Sabre. Needs a bit of work but less than 30% of the price of a new boat. Used is definitely worth considering, especially as the market is starting to soften. If going used, consider getting a buyers broker. We used Curtis Stokes and well worth it.

[@donnab9015]

I love the way wyatt is laying on taylors chest when leaving the boat show, precious 💕

[@heatherm4276]

I'm so excited for the boat vlogs! I agree, I would'nt buy something that expensive until I got exactly what I wanted, that's a big investment. I can't wait to see the loop and learn about boating.

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Us to Heather!!! Thanks for being here ☺️

[@russdykstra]

A great option is a Navigator 48-50. 3 staterooms, large living room and priced in the 250-400 range. Several have done the Loop and we are doing it right now in our 50’ with bow and stern thrusters - very comfortable!

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Awesome thank you for sharing I'll add these to my list of options!

[@ppgwhereeverett4412]

You should look at an older Hatteras ! a 50 foot like "In To Deep" had is a Great live aboard. One stairway instead of stairs everywhere. Design took a dive in the last thirty years. Now, as long as it "LOOKS GOOD", it doesn't have to be functional ! Number One : Comfort. If you can't get comfortable, you will never LOVE it ! You definitely don't want "It'll Do !" The walk around decks are worth a million bucks !

[@CarleyDea]

Very exciting! Can’t wait for the future boat vlogs 😁

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Me too!!!! can't come soon enough!

[@SamanthaHAgastin]

there you are! To the hilt!🎉🎉🎉❤

[@jacktyler7599]

Just subscribed to 'enjoy the adventure'. Old rule of thumb: Buy new, add 20% to fit it out to cruise. Sound too high? Dink, dink engine, canvas, add'l electronics, self-steering, engine/boat spares (you will be *cruising*, not parked next to West Marine), add'l ground tackle, list goes on. Personally, I think you're w-a-y overshooting your boat needs. Three staterooms? Our first year cruising as a family of 3 was on a 24' sailboat. Entire ICW and thru-out Chesapeake Bay, we had a grand time. Actual travel expenses (moorage, fuel, smaller displacement = cheaper gear) will be less. Also, "smaller" is less intimidating, more manageable for newbies, which you appear to be. Loop is 1-2 yr commitment, surely you don't need 45' of boat for such a trip. Happy hunting!

[@jmreim-6431]

Might consider trading the 3rd stateroom for more living space in the salon area. That’s where you’ll spend most of your time - look for a full width salon. Check out North Pacific pilothouse trawler (full disclosure, we have 1). Happy to tell you more, if interested

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Beautiful boats! we actually went on one at the trawlerfest but didn't have enough footage to include it in the episode. But they're a little out of our price range, hoping to stay under 250k

[@lee-3541]

Boats… “Expensive Mistresses” 😂 Might know where you guys are headed: 🤔 1. Buy a decent “fixer upper”… 2. Spend the winter doing custom wirk to make it your way… 3. Ready for a spring launch… So, boat work, snowboarding and Christmas festivals? 😂

[@MathersOnTheMap]

haha don't forget the cruise!! 😂. But not sure when we're going to buy the boat, will start heavily looking in January and then try and figure it out, once we buy the boat we have to pay for insurance and docking fees which isn't cheap so I'm not sure when it makes sense. Also if we don't buy in NJ I have to cruise it back to NJ until we're ready to get started on the loop! We'll see!

[@kevinh891]

I recommend looking at some Carver or Meridian aft cabin styles in the same size range. You can buy something used really nice for around $100K or so. And they tend to have large salons, so some room to play. Pretty sure they have two cabins forward. And the aft master which is usually quite large. Otherwise you might consider a traditional houseboat. Again lots of room to play. If you go used. Look into insurance costs BEFORE you buy. I am looking myself, and that was something I was warned about. Sometimes older boats can cost more to insure. Good Luck and safe travels....

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Yes we're definitely eyeing up a carver style boat, I don't think Meridian's have 3 staterooms, but cruisers and silvertons do too!

[@kevinh891]

@@MathersOnTheMap I have been looking too. Good luck on your journey. Your kids will be better people for the adventure!!!

[@marcyfalconer1275]

Years ago I went on a business trip to the Baltimore waterfront. It is so fun to see it again. The boats were amazing. It was nice to see a family trip with your parents. Thank you for sharing.

[@MathersOnTheMap]

It’s beautiful! Thanks for watching Marcy!!

[@kevinh891]

I have been there on business as well. The inner harbor is quite nice. The rest of Baltimore not so much...

[@pierretalbot6661]

Here's some of suggestions: Cobra Yacht seamaster-45 with configurations of 3 or 4 cabins and different motorization options. Their price is very good. I also like the Swift 44 for its very low fuel consumption (14 LPH @ 8 knots) but is only 2 cabins. The Bavaria R40 Fly is interesting for its low fuel consumption (17.5 LPH @ 8 knots) with 2 cabins with a 5th bed for todler. The Aspen C120 has 3 cabins with unbeatable fuel consumption of 7.1 LPH @ 7.9 knots but this is a newer boat and the price is still high.

[@hockeydad5344]

You will love Georgian Bay, and the North Channel, in Ontario. It's like Newfoundland, but not on steroids......

[@MathersOnTheMap]

We can't wait for that!!!

[@markj10]

I’m sure Glen can help with his wisdom for which boat is best for your family!😮 happy boat hunting 😊

[@MathersOnTheMap]

haha I'll have to ask him 😂

[@KentHarrell]

Look at an older Grand Banks 46. They have a three stateroom arrangement with an open salon that might work well for you.

[@MathersOnTheMap]

There is one on my radar!!! But I don't think I could get financing for it.

[@tuckerandi]

Definitely some nice boats there for sure , good luck in your search.

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Thanks Garry!

[@SamanthaHAgastin]

Make sure you inform yourselves about the additional maintenance costs involved. For instance, if you have the boat at some harbor, know the price by dimension for a spot. See if it can be negotiated for the year. Not only the boat itself.

[@kevind4043]

You should buy my boat. lol. Nice big living room, 2 cabin 2 head layout 🙂

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Need 3 cabins!!

[@MrKeenaz]

Did you consider doing a rental over the cost of owning? You may find after doing the loop you may be over boating. Let’s face it, on land you can get out of the RV and walk around, on a boat you will encounter docking issues, plus fees and you can’t drop anchor and walk off the deck. Just a thought ay.

[@MathersOnTheMap]

I'm not aware of a company that offers rentals for the liveaboards on the loop, do you know of one?

[@MrKeenaz]

No. My apologies I’m in Australia.

[@nealklar3212]

Perhaps look at an older sporfish, like a 1995-2005 40-45 Viking, or Ocean, yacht. A ton of them around, especially since made in New Jersey. Lots of room for kids, staterooms, etc. Biggest issue may be the ladder to the bridge. You could find one in your price range. GLWS

[@sandiedrew4086]

This is all very exciting guys. ❤🎉😊

[@sandiedrew4086]

So many beautiful boats. 🛥️

[@sandiedrew4086]

Definitely a good learning experience. 👍

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Thank you!!! We’re excited 😊

[@samanthakauffman2426]

I'm curious to see what boat you choose that checks all of your boxes! Best of luck!!

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Same!!! haha something that definitely appeals to little children!

[@rod8073]

Nice seeing the parents again! Those boats looked nice! Any new ideas on what you’re going to get??

[@MathersOnTheMap]

They’ll be in a lot of upcoming videos!! Yes unfortunately likely not a trawler more of a regular cruiser style yacht

[@rod8073]

@@MathersOnTheMap Gotcha! Can’t wait to see which one you guys get.

I've never done the entire Great Loop but I have done many parts of it. While it's technically possible to do it on a 40ft+ boat in my opinion it's not advisable. Between 30-40 feet is the sweet spot with < 3 feet of draft. This will open up many more side trips such as "the big chute" in Canada and lots of the TVA meanders. Additionally the operating costs are proportional to the size.

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Wish we could but with 2 under 3 years old plus grand parent will be too tight on a two stateroom vessel 😢 I believe a 45ft will be fine on the big chute, but I could be wrong!

[@oceanposse]

if you can do 500 nm between refueling you can do the Panama Loop with the Posse

[@sarahthompson8097]

The meridian or bayliner 4788 have a great livingroom space for crawling all around on

[@doodsanddudes]

Nice boats. Are you pretty good with boats? Thats pretty exciting for plan for the future. We just sold our 24 cutty cabin and are now boat free. I can live through your videos. 😊😢😅😂

[@MathersOnTheMap]

ehhhh practice makes perfect haha My parents had a boat started out with 20 then got a 26 ft, now they have a pontoon boat but nothing on a big boat like these!

[@doodsanddudes]

@ you will definitely find some comfort if you can get good spaces.

[@HopeOfJoe]

My bride and I are also looking for a power boat. After 25 years of sail boats (3), we don’t want to deal with all that work. Of course we are now a bit older as well. Previously owned is our target 🎯 yet we are looking at 55-65 feet. 😊 Best wishes. You can do it. BTW………there is no perfect boat. 🫣🤭 See you next time. ✨🌊💨🛥️🏝️👙🌞✨

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Good luck with your boat search!!! We may shift to sailing one day, but more of a learning curve and more work for sure! Too much with the limited experience we have and kiddos on board!

[@shawnfraser67]

The 2000 Mainship 43 come with a 3 cabin layout .. it’s on our shortlist for a loop boat,,

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Mainship 430 is definitely on our list! Not sure if it has enough open space for kids to play though.

[@longrider50]

Did you check out the US Powerboat show in Annapolis? There're lots of trawlers there. It's usually the week before or after the Sailboat show.

[@patrickdunne1508]

Hi from Ireland 🇮🇪 trawlers here are fishing boats

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Trawler's were typically fishing vessels here too but started to transition to personal cruisers as well

[@patrickdunne1508]

@MathersOnTheMap mad stuff. Best of luck in your search. 👍

[@biobanker]

Is this your first boat? If yes, starting with anything the size you seem to want is insane. Even the RT 31 is borderline too big to start with. Hopefully you have long history with boats. Insurance on those big boats is also going to be tough to get. Start with a 30 foot or smaller and figure out what you need from a boat.

[@Steve-qn8gn]

The way they were talking this is their first boat. They appear to not have realized that there is no boat that is good for young children like they have nor their lack of experience. Going for looks and convenience rather than stability and function shows that off.

[@douggilmour2704]

Meridian 391!

[@sarahthompson8097]

Also,you are able to get up top from inside on the bayliner 😅ok I'll stop. Blessings

[@jmartini2387]

Keep an eye out for a DeFever Trawler. A left-field suggestion, but one I think that would work great for you would be an Endeavour 44 trawlercat (with the forward master). The accommodation space you're looking for (three cabins, two heads) with shallow draft and low bridge clearance to go anywhere on the loop (no dangerous stairs for little ones). Plus being a catamaran, there's tons of deck space, and they're nice and stable when anchored out. Something like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIjPdH2cf7alkMk Both options should be in budget and provide the space you're looking for. Really looking forward to your adventures on the loop!

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Love it thanks I added the trawlercat to our list that thing has a ton of space. I'll have to look more into the DeFever Trawler, do you know off hand what size has three staterooms?

[@briankillian5248]

Get a used Hatteras 50+. 3 staterooms in most models.

[@stimsingh9361]

For your budget check out Regal 42 outboard new or used…

[@keithmcgee7679]

Take a look at the SeaMaster yacht, great for Great Loop, and good price point

[@keithmcgee7679]

It would be the Cobra Yachts Maestro or SeaMaster 45👍🏾

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Looks beautiful and cost effective!!! I'd be curious how sea worthy it is though

[@keithmcgee7679]

@MathersOnTheMap CE B Certified 🤔

[@bryonwoost8758]

Go used power catamaran! You'll get the room and price

[@ThreeZeroOne]

Thanks for having the courage to visit my nearest city 😂 and best of luck. A big moment. Happy for y'all! 🚤. Can't believe you picked my favorite breakfast spot in town, too. But you're right about the trendy fruity pebble french toasty-ish items. Anyway well done.

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Thank you!!!! The Baltimore Harbor is great!

[@sandiegowildcat]

Some hatteras 48LRC have 3 staterooms.

[@MathersOnTheMap]

I'm assuming they're older boats? More than 25 years or so? If so only potential issue is going to be tough for financing/insurance

[@joeywoods8485]

we are looking to do the loop in 5 yrs. we are looking at Great Harbor yachts. the g47 and the gh37

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Beautiful boats!!!

[@rustic3831]

shopping for insurance sucks as well just a heads up. just went through that on the boat we are using for the Loop starting next year and it was a pain.

[@MathersOnTheMap]

I bet! Who did you use for insurance?

[@rustic3831]

@@MathersOnTheMap we ended up getting Progressive. they were the ones that got back to me the fastest between them and State Farm. Progressive was a little cheaper of the too.

[@stephenheller6031]

check out the boat the Boomshiners have

[@stephenheller6031]

oops sorry Boomershines kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYjLfXd7acZrmrM

[@sirculito15893]

any thoughts on sail boats?

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Yes but too steep of a learning curve with little ones on board and we’re not ready for blue water cruising yet

[@istvantoth3091]

Buy a Hatteras……

[@MAGrimley]

Nordhaven

[@bigg5208]

Check out a used Selene

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Love Selene’s but there 3 staterooms start at 50 ish feet

[@rod8073]

I mean other choices of boat?

[@MathersOnTheMap]

@@rod8073 Yea! A cruiser, Silverton, or Sea Ray most likely!

[@rogersnelson7078]

Nordic tug 43'

[@MathersOnTheMap]

know of one available?

[@Badrrlo]

Why did you delete my comment ? Am telling you guys about a channel here on KZbin it's called Nautistyles I believe they are based in Florida. They have uploaded a video 1 week back about a sleeper yacht which I think it might suit you.

[@MathersOnTheMap]

What? We didn’t delete your comment? We love their channel, they provide great tours

[@Steve-qn8gn]

I get the feeling You guys are in for a very rude awakening. I hope it doesn’t happen on the water.

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Come on Steve, positive thoughts only.

[@ppgwhereeverett4412]

Nordic tug CANNOT POSSIBLY justify the price they charge for their name !! We looked at them ten years ago in Oakland and it was laughable !!

[@chrisbethmann3955]

So is this a boat review? I don’t get the point of your video if you can’t afford them

[@SamanthaHAgastin]

Checking out features, hearing top sailing professionals... fun! Do you run their channel? Who are you to film their light.

[@jimreid67]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6KsaJ9-hq-DjdEsi=gEoJc5_dbC1Bp1UK I highly recommend a Kadey Krogen Whaleback. Yes I’m partial to this model. Most models are three bedroom, full beam 17’6” living area. One level main deck. Used models are in the $450-500k. KK does not make this model anymore. Baltimore was great, we stayed there for a month last fall.

[@MathersOnTheMap]

Such a beautiful boat! That's a bit out of price range unfortunately, probably hover around $200-250k hoping we can get financing too.

[@jimreid67]

@ 👍🏻. Couple other styles to look at for a family like yours would be a power cat. Lots of room and very economical on fuel. Lagoon or several other makes. I’ve seen a lot on the loop. They offer plenty of safe deck space and a large living area. Most are 3-4 bedrooms in the hulls. Would make for a neat cave like bedroom for the kiddo. Best of luck.

[@MathersOnTheMap]

That’s a good idea!!! I’ll check them out thanks Jim!