MATHEWS LIFT X They Did What?! MFJJ x Tim Connor (ep 83)

[@cowboyjoe3734]

Missing Tim’s videos on his channel. Come back to us papi

[@JoshandTim]

I come. Tomorrow.

[@Your_mom736]

He’s a general contractor now.

[@Your_mom736]

@@JoshandTimPlease keep your dick in your pants. The mustache is creepy enough. This comment was said with love. Please don’t get sensitive. I too miss your videos. ❤

[@thezapper007]

😂

[@michaelrovnyak6778]

The still have to change the system so you don’t need to take the axle off

[@jons7e]

Mathews has a really great bow, but Hoyt has some features that I think are better, like a better draw cycle, 1/4" adjustments, and it's bullet proof. We're living in great times... bows have never been better.

[@maxdeangelis5019]

I agree. Durability #1. That’s why it depends on the person. Someone like MFJJ who is all about working on bows for people likes the ease of tune when I just build my bow once maybe twice and done

[@bigz5262]

I wonder how many people are going to mess up their bows with the fancy new tuning systems. Josh thinks it’s going to make his job easier but I bet he ends up with a lot more people that need help re tuning

[@Orr_s]

@@bigz5262idk that system looks pretty darn straight forward and simple lol but common sense not so common today

[@Orr_s]

1/4” increments is really nice

[@bigz5262]

@@Orr_s lol you are right about that. The Bowtech system is pretty straightforward but my local shop says they get a lot of people that need help because they messed it up. Or they tried to adjust it but didn’t know what they were doing

[@jordanbressler5658]

Timing issues with Mathew’s is an easy and inexpensive fix. Conquest archery makes an in time system for when you need a micro timing solution. Works flawlessly.

[@KingdomNow-ox1fc]

The multidirectional shear forces on the screws holding the axle housing to the limbs introduced by having the limbs not parallel are significant. I am sure Mathews tested that and it will be fine. Right? Maybe do like when a new car/truck model is introduced and wait a year, or two, before buying one. Haha.

[@nate_krysl]

We discovered something new at the shop today... grab the top of the cam and move it back and forth with a little bit of pressure. Every new Mathews had a click when you did that.

[@Funny-bf8xf]

in my opinion this is the best podcast y'all have done.

[@brianmiller1580]

I must like rooting for the little guys...I bought a bowtech in 2009 then Elite in 2017 seriously considering Darton in 2025. Last Mathews I owned was 2001

[@pamobilebowhunter4655]

Listen I was strictly a Hoyt guy my whole life until I seen and tried the Lift. I bought the Lift 29.5 and never pick my Hoyt RX5 back up. I just bought the Lift [X] 33 on Tuesday and flipping love it. I seriously can’t believe how perfect both Mathew’s hold on target and preform. The people talking shit on here just like to start shit because either that’s what they like to do or they are jealous period. I don’t understand how someone can even be mad when a company literally makes a perfect product for people to use that can help them out with things than just say hhmm maybe I should try it out for myself. But he this is life and what’s life without assholes lol. Love you guys content keep it up! I would love to come to the shop and have a bow tuned or build there. Maybe one day. Great video 🏹🦌💪🏼🌲

[@lennymorrison1965]

So far Darton is still the best of the new bows of the ones that have been released to this point 2025

[@jackbuendgen389]

The new Mathews and darton are at the top of my list this year. I'm planning on getting a new bow this year... It's going to be a good year!

[@FatalReactionPB]

@@jackbuendgen389 as a guy who picked up the Sequel 33 last year and shoots every weekend without fail, my only real complaint is she's a bit heavy loaded out... that said it isn't unbearable by any means. I'm kind of curious to know if the limbs and or timing system on the ST2 can be retrofitted onto last years bow.

[@jackbuendgen389]

@FatalReactionPB that would be awesome! Mathews would sell limb and tuning kits hand over fist if they did that with last years lifts

[@Fite234]

Took the words out of my mouth. Superior in all aspects but weight, imo.

[@Kodyanderson402]

What makes Darton so good there isn’t a bow shop in my area that offer them so i don’t know anything about them.

[@brentpotts3547]

Great video!!!!!! I bought a bowtech core ss it's going to have to do some work before i get a Mathews.

[@scottsellars6708]

Wooah extra episode!!!

[@kip.k]

My match strings made it from January until November of this year. Had some excessive string fraying below the peep and the serving was wearing out pretty bad. I shot a good bit though. I'd say they were okay strings but not great. Replaced with the new ABBs.

[@paulheberling2750]

Feeling blessed! Two in one week 🤩

[@tylersmith2827]

Fixed everything except the bearings in the cams. Iv been through 3 cams on my lift 33 and 2 cams on wife’s lift 29.5. Love the podcast. Listen every week. Keep up the content

[@Thedudeabides803]

I wonder if you can put the Darton timing device on the Mathew’s. Gotta be a way.

[@optimuscrime608]

Lmao. Negative

[@genehalteman882]

Just buy a Darton...seems like a better bow.

[@Angel.Custodio]

I haven’t ungraded since my V3X 33, all the bows weren’t enough of an upgrade… until today 😂. Hopefully the lefty order comes in a reasonable time.

[@kschmo3981]

I love tuning into you guys. You make the Commute so awesome. Keep up the solid work

[@michaelvstheworld3680]

Still running my V3 31 and TRX 34.

[@shelbyraines234]

Great job guys don't listen to the haters Tim your flow is kicking brother looking like Ron Jeremy that's the style now, God bless, and Josh keep on keeping on

[@kylebiddinger8974]

If you need a 1/4 turn, just twist(roll) the yokes according to what you need or end loops

[@pinpointarchery2125]

Its not only Mathews and Bowtech with a Tuning system on their target bows. Darton and Elite also has a tuning system on their target bows

[@danielknecht5224]

What is the possibility of the adjustment screw moving due to vibration over time?

[@borntoharvest]

I'm definitely getting this bow.

[@davidknight1973]

You guys do a great job.

[@jackbuendgen389]

Question! How do you get the axel out to replace the strings?

[@gkatchuk]

Was just about ready to type the same exact question…

[@NMBowhntr]

You have to take the axle off to change the string? Not on my bow.

[@gkatchuk]

@@NMBowhntrtechnically not for the string, but for the yokes to each cable.

[@daltonbbf756]

Love the lift the x looks awesome. The match strings on my lift 29.5 are crap, however.

[@WendellAbigania]

Awesome stuff Bruddahs! Top hats off to Mathews lol! Big question though. Is there anything special/different we need to do to remove the cams to access the string and cable for replacement? As always, mahalos for this podcast...so great to listen to the pod during morning traffic and follow up with the visuals on youtube!

[@shelbyraines234]

I've shot nothing but bowtech but I'm not branded to one company and Josh your right Mathews is a great company and product, they're kicking some butt

[@gabelakey2654]

How’s the axle come out now to change strings, and does the adjustment screw have a stop so you couldn’t back it all the way out while under pressure?

[@jferg8741]

Have watched and learned so much from MFJJ since getting back into the archery. The one thing that I can say is he has been nothing but above board and straight with his appraisal and the way that he does business. I an "hot" along with you MFJJ!

[@davidmayers1645]

Great video, great product! Hope Bowtech got their bows on a diet this year!! otherwise they are only going to be able to claim lower reflex and timing adjustment to up Mathews

[@huntersarchery]

Elite has that limb tuning also in the target bows

[@austinbraatz]

Josh, you can micro tune timing by rolling the cable loops. Ask Mathews about it.

[@tonysalecki]

Could one order the parts needed to put the limb shift technology on my original Lift? Sounds like everything else like cams and riser and such is the same

[@mikefutrell4224]

The bearings in my cams on my lift 29.5 are kicking ass with 1000 plus shots 😂

[@nathangabriel937]

whoah! 2 in one week?!!! thank you!!

[@Elkzilla541]

Confirming the Darton target bows don’t have a complete timing and tuning system?

[@kyleabramson3876]

Roll your end loop on the cables to fine tune your timing

[@claywhitten4626]

Are the sight pins individually adjustable on this sight

[@ericegs]

Is the tuning system really better than PSE or Bowtech? Although Im not particularly impressed with the Mach 33 this year the EZ shim system is pretty great and when it comes to wheel lean I feel as though moving the wheel itself is a better option than tweaking a limb out. Regardless it’s awesome to see Mathew’s putting effort into making their bows more tunable.

[@Angel.Custodio]

Anyone know how heavy the Mathews UV sight is compared to the Spot Hogg 3 pin vertical

[@tommy001996]

One thing I would like, 1 inch adjustable module like Hoyt. It would cut a lot of headache for shops and would allow some adjustment without having to buy 2 set of module for testing the right draw length

[@Rogers_Outdoor_Adventures]

Man I want the New Elite but I also really want the Lift x I so torn on what to get.

[@austinphillips9966]

The rumor I heard last night was mfjj sent the lift x catalog pics out

[@cowboyjoe3734]

Next year will be the same bow but with the ability to adjust timing. Then I will upgrade. Can’t blow your wad on one bow

[@FloridaBowMen]

Leaving a 👍🏼 review! Keep up the good work!

[@SideofSausage]

No one: MFJJ: "BUT the REALITY of it is...*insert his opinion*"

[@zaynemikita6897]

Idk how people can't se through that

[@NeilEubank]

Tim Jeremy with the stash and slicked back hair😂

[@scottsellars6708]

Would you be able to take the tuning system and add it to a previous Lift ??? As that would be super sweet.

[@easwarriour]

RIP granite. I had to buy Soggy Bottom camo.

[@DarkGuardian94]

I was never a mathews fan, in fact due to how big they are i was always looking away from them to be my own person I guess. But the lift X is temping me to buy one. However, if Prime is fast this year like a real 330+ bow I'll probably go with them.

[@tailchasers722]

We know what Tim’s dog thinks of the new lift 😂

[@jons7e]

I'd like to hear about the Easton 5.0 arrows that were apparently soft launched as it's all over the internet now

[@Bryce825]

3:34 is this the opposite for left hand shooters or is the slave still to the left limb. So on a left hand bow it would be slaved to the right? 18:46 oh well he answered it. Shot an elite for a while but looks like I'm about to make a switch...

[@BigwoodzOG]

Always love MFJJ’s honest take on features, performance and applications. Mathews keeps pushing the industry internally, and lately have price pointed them to capture a ton of the market. I applaud them (and yes I shoot and love Mathews) but also would not solely pick a bow solely on name, but for so many of the reasons you guys educate us about. Thanks and keep it up!

[@kfroh]

Will there be a video on the lift xd for the long draw guys like myself?

[@trigger_pull]

These bows are awesome and the price is not too bad either. But.... For a person who is switching to Mathews from another brand, in order to take advantage of all the Mathews features it'll cost you the price of the bow or more on top of the cost of the bow not including the cost of setup. Taking into consideration this fact the price is quite misleading. Be interested to see a cost comparison between a fully setup Mathews lift x, a RX-9, Elite Eon, etc

[@shawnb6944]

I learned that with last years Lift. Bow might be cheaper but they make it up in their accessories.

[@longshotdiedtired1582]

But doesn’t the Mathews bows only take there accessories? Like you have to buy all bridgelock ? Guess my point is they may not raise the price of the bow much but when you set the bow up it’s way more than the competition, could be wrong though

[@Orr_s]

You dont have to but not using all the bridge lock features and everything with a brand new bow, would be kinda like putting regular grade in a Ferrari instead of premium lol just not at the full potential and taking advantage as much. But comes at a big cost. Nvm if you want to upgrade rest and sight too

[@longshotdiedtired1582]

@ that’s good to know ,I didn’t realize they had the option of taking the older style accessories

[@Orr_s]

@@longshotdiedtired1582 yeah you would basically just direct mount everything like the sight on a direct mount or dovetail and same with the rest and quiver, stabilizers of course. But the bridge lock is easy enough because if you have a nice sight already most companies you can buy the bridge lock mount cheap and then mount that on the sight and take advantage of the bridge lock sight feature. It just will not be as super streamlined and balanced, and as slim of a package, which isnt a deal breaker, just depends how crazy youd wanna get. The quiver is what would make most noticeable of a difference as far as not being super streamlined and close to the bow.

[@longshotdiedtired1582]

@ awesome and thank you for taking the time to explain, I’m definitely interested in getting the new lift , I’ve been along time Hoyt shooter but they’ve really fallen to far behind at this point for me to continue to shoot there bows

[@Orr_s]

@@longshotdiedtired1582 yeah i shoot an RX-1 thats like 6 yrs old almost its a sick looking bow but i want something more stable and forgiving and an aluminum riser again. That bow was built for lightness and speed not really friendly user experience and forgiveness. Even 6 years old the IBO speed im pretty sure is 340fps which is nuts. I wanna shoot the new Darton sequel 33, the Elite Ethos, and the lift x and see what the bowtechs come out with

[@chrisheiser9207]

I can't wait for the short draw!

[@scottyjames2432]

My solution Ss is super slow, maybe RS means rather slow?

[@Elkzilla541]

How about timing? Could change that

[@MrHunter2784]

Your yoke eyes have to slip and don’t always slip evenly that’s why it is always falling out of time and they make noise when you hit the back wall which is annoying if you’re hunting.

[@Elkzilla541]

Is there such thing as a non-authentic gray?

[@Orr_s]

Wish bowtech would come out in comparable time fashion to all the others. Wanna see them compared to the lift x and Dartons

[@Ducatistto]

Any timeline on the XLite review?

[@Ducatistto]

I think it was mentioned few episodes ago but with not timeline, and now I hear Prime not XLite and 32 had the premiere online already.

[@TecoyBingham]

is this tuning system better than the SET system elite uses?

[@marcusbacahui4168]

It’s like the iPhone eco system. Mathews eco system is why I am sticking with them.

[@Anton-Grim]

I agree with you guys 100% Mathews hit it out the park, the only reason I didn't get the lift 33 last year was because of the limb problems, and I'm glad I waited for the X so I pulled the trigger and it's being built as we speak. Just waiting for my custom Strings to come in.

[@austinphillips9966]

@@Anton-Grim apparently there’s some lift Xs that have broken limbs already when people test firing

[@Anton-Grim]

@austinphillips9966 really ????

[@austinphillips9966]

@ there’s been a couple posted already on interwebs not trying to be a troll

[@tonyellis6383]

I am baffled by some of the reports on the Lift limbs. I have so many arrows, thousands, through mine, I have accidentally dropped the bow a couple of times, scraped the limbs on my treestand a few times, accidentally stepped on the limbs in the dark, zero issues. Tuning is still on. idk, maybe i have ARC7 2.0 on mine! hahaha

[@austinphillips9966]

@ very weird problem they had. Some people like you had no issues some people I’ve heard broke several limbs.

[@BFSJAKE]

?Pushing the tip of the limb won’t jeopardize the integrity of the limbs when flexing under load at full draw? Don’t the limb tips need to be in line with each other? If not that’s amazingly cool. Great looking bow.

[@theurbannuisance52]

I can definitely say without a shadow of a doubt we were all very disappointed with the Tyson fight 😂😂

[@aajordan2000]

Mathews read my mind! I was going to buy an Elite or Bowtech this year because of the tunability. Mathews wins.

[@gus1881]

That XD is calling my name

[@mappersonh5917]

Same

[@nrod872]

Can’t current Lift owners just buy the Lift X limbs to get the new tuning system?

[@TreyScarcello]

Have the same question. Would be awesome if you can buy the limbs a la carte.

[@archerash6695]

Manual tuning actually has truly more tuning options. Shims - Yokes - Cable Guard. Cant beat manual tuning. Being at the mercy or a beadlock system has its own bag of issues which I wont get into. Not saying this X isnt a nice bow.. just saying Ill never use the deadlock system again.

[@02LM7]

Matthew v3v owner here. Not denying Mathews makes a phenomenal product and they stand behind it. But you’ll never convince me that a big, big part of their success is their marketing and the fact that virtually every influencer and pro hunter are endorsing their product. I resent Mathews as a company not because their product is the best, it’s because they charge so f ing much for their accesories because it’s integrated. They’re just pricing me out of the sport.

[@TitleArcher]

Josh have you seen the title platform….does it have the same changes?

[@TitleArcher]

Lol nevermind just watched a little further and got my answer

[@poppasmurf15]

Someone explain to me why Tim ALWAYS stops the fan and moves it off the stove...LOL!!!!

[@barbellsandbowhunting]

I've got friends like MFJJ and Tim does a good job wrassling the convo at times 😂 I'm probably the MFJJ though with my mates 😅 I'm gonna go on a real rant now... Similar to Mathews why would anyone go electric in the car industry when hydrogen can use the same engine platform? The future is hydrogen fuel in the same piston engine cars. Look at Toyota

[@nhdavis]

Ngl I never really had the interest to shoot a Mathews until now. If the rumors are true, I'd love to see what Prime does because I've always felt they were the underdogs in a way, but this lift x has me intrigued.

[@jaimegonzalez531]

Yeah, Nock On released their hoyt video like an hour before everyone else.

[@Arrowhacked]

Nobody’s getting more views than you Josh. I’ve seen videos of the new bows before yours come out and I just wait for yours. And that’s coming from someone who is subscribed to these other channels.

[@cjr4497]

" There're doing the best job" - MFJJ. Give me a break. They ripped off Bowtech and still have shit strings and limbs. Why don't you tell people the real story about the cut out riser and the cheap ass aluminum they use.

[@Orr_s]

Its a copycat industry, its just about getting around the patents and coming up with something different. The limb moves, nothing to do with the axle or cam. Same idea yet different. I have heard horror stories about Bowtechs stock strings and cables/servings. And i shoot a hoyt RX-1 that i dont want anymore so im bot biased one bit…

[@NathanHoffman-mr6jn]

Do those grips fit the actual lift?

[@douglasvaughn9530]

Yes, they fit 2019-2025 bows.

[@Tony-tz8vv]

U mentioned you shoot a bowtech and you can’t talk about it. Can you talk about it now since Bowtech released there two for the year.

[@johnheitkamp4792]

6th video today, putting in the work!

[@jasonard7227]

Facts are facts Mathews makes a great product period anyone says different is full of shit and is lying to themselves. Now that stupid uv site is a different story 700 bucks is laughable at best..

[@marksmt]

Also the stabilizers they make… 250 for a front 230 for a back and then 200 for a bracket… love the bows, but the accessories are too spendy for me

[@tonyellis6383]

@@marksmt o yes. i love their products but i couldn't bring myself to buy there stabs for weight. if you know what makes a good stab, you can get them for a 1/3 of the price.

[@JohnHamburg-u4n]

Nice fire men

[@RomeoSierraRS]

No more Jocko?

[@hunterbragg2566]

Mathew’s trying to follow up bowtech it seems like. Made a fast bow with limbs blowing up and then make a cam moving technology. I love bowtech lol hate Mathew’s

[@Farmersforever1993]

My gripe is that Ultra View Mathews sight is simply way over priced. The stabilizers are also way over priced. I think archery world is going to out price themselves and eventually push people away.

[@macdaddy32]

2 in 1 week!!!!!

[@jeffspencer7489]

So basically the same bow with top hats eliminated and new colors. Why would you upgrade when you already own a Lift? The finish on my Lift not as durable as my Core SS or Alpha x. Scratched way easier. Hopefully that has been addressed. This year, Darton has me interested. Sequel at $200 plus less, similar speed and increased tunability with cam timing feature.

[@bigz5262]

Because you can and want to. But plenty of people don’t have a Lift and would consider upgrading

[@ronsgarage2057]

I need a lift x…

[@christianherrington1456]

Do we😞

[@optimuscrime608]

Lift X will go down as bow of the year unless bowtech does something disgusting 😂

[@yo-bass-cat4027]

And this is why the lift x will be back ordered tell the 2026 bows come out

[@ecrank83]

I don't know what it is.. But every mathews I've had.. I find them boring. They work well, but I have more fun shooting hoyt/elite/bowtech. Must be something with their draw force curve... I enjoyed the no cam and everything since I've just been "meh."

[@Verticalbowoutdoors]

Now all they have to do is pare with gas to have them make strings because Mathew’s can’t make strings for shit. Match strings are complete trash and cost me a tournament this year. Timing was 3/8 out after three targets during an Asa and that was way past break in. I spend $2300 on a target bow I shouldn’t have to spend another $160 to replace the complete trash strings they put on it. I absolutely hated my title the first two months and wanted to cut it in half and throw it in the trash. It was in the press damn near everyday fudging timing and fixing ata u til I finally said screw it and threw gas strings on it and now love the bow.

[@CarlosRamirez-vq5cr]

I always watch your reviews on any product first I think you are the most unbiased guy on this platform doing reviews so fuck the dildos that talk shit

[@l.i.archer5379]

Those clicks are loud and the deer will hear it.

[@Orr_s]

What clicks do you speak of?

[@l.i.archer5379]

@Orr_s The sight

[@Orr_s]

@@l.i.archer5379 ahh got itt. Prob hadnt made it to that part yet. Thanks

[@Orr_s]

@@l.i.archer5379 not sure you should be adjusting windage and elevation at the time you’re about to shoot at an animal…if so you got bigger issues than the audible clicks lol

[@l.i.archer5379]

@@Orr_s 😁🤣