"its not over... PICK A SIDE!!!" MICKEY FACTZ BREAKS DOWN LUPE FIASCO VS ROYCE DA 5' 9

[@piccoloblack]

Royce is great, Lupe is great, but lupe is different. Lupe is that one kid in school that is just good at shit, and when he actually starts trying he makes great peeople look average.

[@onthemiclive5860]

That was a great example of Lupe

[@lastonewon]

Totally agree

[@jetlife77]

Underrated comment

[@RedTopReactions]

facts

[@anthonyjackson2892]

Facts

[@guiltyuntilproveninnocent.]

Royce called Lupe a bitch then tried to play Mickey Factz like he wasn’t lyrically capable of competing. Lupe crushed him Mickey shoveled Royce’s remains up Royce never responded thru his lyrics and cried to the whole world instead. Dead issue to me

[@DeeWunnHybrid]

Thissss part 💥

[@steelovision5256]

Right ‼️‼️‼️

[@kevthepoet]

Facts. MICKEY!

[@freshempire7477]

Thats it ^^ we can close up shop now

[@guiltyuntilproveninnocent.]

@@freshempire7477 Facts

[@kevthepoet]

Royce is one of the best rappers alive BUT he was extremely disrespectful to rappers he didn't consider a threat so two of those rappers, Mickey Factz and Lupe, got in the booth and proved they are indeed threats and frankly hurt Royces feelings. Royce then got on IG and whined about it, which was not a good look. He should not have been so arrogant and disrespectful in the first place if he can't take getting dissed without threatening violence. It was embarrassing. But he's still one of the best rappers ever.

[@LonokeCountyResearch501]

Well said ‼️

[@trevorgibbsnc]

By what metric is he one of the best? And if lyricism is the metric where does he rank 1 - 10?

[@kevthepoet]

@@trevorgibbsnc lyricism. Top ten or twenty to me. Personal opinion.

[@MacNif]

Perfect summation of events 👌🏿

[@bringinthedope5929]

Appreciate the nuance in this. Your not acting like Royce is some scrub unworthy of praise, however his recent behavior has been unbecoming and worthy of criticism. Ultimately I think it has to do with ego

[@Steez224]

Royce went in way over his head. It's Lupe fucking Fiasco!! What was he thinking??

[@Advaitamanta]

The best thing about this whole beef is I got into Lupe Fiasco. I knew about him but never dived into his music before but now i'm a believer

[@dvdndsWill]

“Gotta eat”, is the song that I point newcomers to so they can just get a beginners understanding of how nice he is and that’s a old song.

[@GeneralBuckNaked]

Crazy thing is, Lupe is even more lyrically talented than his music shows he is.. He mostly made music that was "positive, feel good" music. But he has it in him to be alot more clever n gritty/crazy with his rhymes if he really wanted too. Hes a super talented writer n genius when it comes to his pen game

[@doxdiggla8726]

He’s one of the best ever, welcome 🙏🏾

[@dnt6604]

One of the Best rappers of all time

[@jamint.jaddua1771]

Yes Lupe Fiasco The young lyrical ledgen himself from my own home town Chicago one love

[@Truthlight403]

I still can’t believe Royce didn’t respond to Mickey, like how tf you talk all this “man, I’ll bite one of him niggas heads off” to get bodied viciously and not even coming back with a rebuttal.

[@Truthlight403]

@Ryan Rez def not. He was over there crying and telling ppl they jumped him and that he was mad none of his friends helped lol. He says he’s the best and that he would destroy anyone on a beat but then got destroyed himself

[@vinny5638]

hes just like joe budden when he said he'd kill anybody GOAT level if they said his name in a record and then bitched up every time he got dissed afterwards. slaughterhouse is a group full of talented pussies

[@vikinggains449]

@@vinny5638 that’s a shit comment slaughterhouse team consists of gd lyricists

[@KingKurt]

@Ryan Rez lmao you’re high

[@blueballedtech]

@@vinny5638 why come at the whole group? Joel Ortiz is beast, Crooked, and Royce are all top tier.

[@tfe5956]

The beef gave me a chance to rediscover Lupe. Listened to him for while like 8 years ago but since then I’ve been sleeping. He’s insanely good. Royce is good, listened to most of his records, but Lupe’s just on a different level. To make a rude comparison, in some ways it’s like the difference between Mos and Talib Kweli. Talib’s lyrically dope, very informed and often with a sharp and poignant perspective. But you can tell it comes from a good work ethic. Whereas Mos is just on a wholly different level, his speech is just more honest in itself, and he paints pictures that just gets you to a different space in your thoughts. I get the same with Lupe, it feels less about performing well as much as expressing one’s actual life-world as truthfully as possible.

[@icantbelieveitsnotbutter8851]

Talib is more of a poet the way he delivers and Talib bring that hip hop energy.

[@BlackFaithProduction]

This beef is equivalent to Lil Baby vs Trippie Redd! I love it! Of course Baby the goat!

[@blueballedtech]

@@BlackFaithProduction Baby is not even top 75 ever

[@TF2ReplayMaker]

@@blueballedtech I think you mean not even bottom 75 ever 💀💀💀

[@joaustrino7472]

Glad you woke up and realized lupe ain't no one to play with

[@strdrn9]

Around the 8 minute mark everyone proves Mickey's point. Most of the time it's everyone else that wants to see the two rappers beef. Everyone in the shop is speculating and projecting their own feeling around being disrespected when The Lox and Dipset already spoke on this and had no issue at all in the heat of the moment. The rappers themselves have made this clear and now the media and everyone's people make it a potential problem. Not intentionally, of course.

[@Olutunu]

My friend, that’s a damn good perspective.

[@OJT-qd3jg]

Great point.

[@superdopehiphop]

Love hearing elite MCs like Royce, Payne, Mickey, Ransom, Elzhi, Phonte, Diabolic, Apathy, Lupe, Cambatta, Los, Locksmith, R.A, Meth, ChinoXL, Crook, Cyhi, Aesop Rock, Nino Bless, Grafh, etc all talking the craft. Crooked interviewing Eminem, Black Thought, Royce, Rakim was ill bc of that also. Love hearing Jedis connect!

[@supermcfly100]

don't forget Elzhi

[@superdopehiphop]

@@supermcfly100 read what I wrote again. Elzhi is one of my all time Top5-10 GOAT!

[@supermcfly100]

@@superdopehiphop you right. I overlooked it. you got great taste in lyricist.

[@Michal2SAB]

I'm just disappointed in Royce. Took everything waaay too serious.

[@jahton1239]

Dipset got slaughtered by the LOX but u can never take anything away from Dips for one of the strongest movements in Hip Hop History...

[@cherylglover9119]

Bad matchup from rip

[@locklife4336]

It wasn’t a bad match up, one side cared and the other side didn’t. It wasn’t that serious, doesn’t erase anyone’s history.💯

[@401Li]

Fax does not erase history but it is gon for sure help jadas career

[@kevthepoet]

Royce and Joe Budden are both amazing rappers who lost battles cos they were emotional and unprepared. Royce on wax and Joe Vs Hollow the Don.

[@MFjaYWiLL]

Oooooooomg I just watched that with my girl the other day to show her how wack Joe is. Never forget when Canibus said “you got famous over night for niggas fuckin your wife” 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Joe is trash

[@krishnacoachinginstitutepr6108]

I personally feel like Royce is a monster on beats but he knows very well he ain't no a battle rapper 🔥😈

[@IamMichael365]

He didn't look too good against Mistah Fab 😨

[@6thbr871]

That’s why I couldn’t believe he just said he would battle Cassidy lol like what ?

[@IamMichael365]

@@6thbr871 Yeah I feel that, but this is a different Royce from that time. I feel Royce could battle, with the right guidance and help. He has the tools, he just needs help transitioning into battle rap

[@6thbr871]

@@IamMichael365 nah you right he could rap in any form, but he shouldn’t be mentioning doing battles when it’s a whole missile out there with ya name on it, that he has yet to respond to. That shit make Royce look bad lol.

[@IamMichael365]

@@6thbr871 i definitely agree. The way he responded to Mickey's diss, the culture would be looking at Royce like food! My advice to him would be to develop thick skin if he plans to battle rap

[@Chillzilla0284]

Royce will never live this moment down. He’ll forever have an asterisk beside his name in the history books for being a childish crybaby.

[@viperrecords3288]

Lupe got called a bitch and didn’t ball up his fist he made a song. Y’all are forgetting that.

[@tubamilk1]

At the end of the day- Royce, Mickey, and Lupe are getting attention ☺️ #longlivehiphop

[@omoogun384]

Good content MATH! Keep doing what you doing. SN: Royce picked a fight but didn't swing.

[@Kaliizm]

Fax

[@Rickdabarber100]

No Royce actually swung with silence of the lamda and displayed some very dope lyrical content, ryme patterns was crazy but it didn't come off as a usual did track going at you trying to knock your block off. He kept it pg and just displayed skills how I see it. Lupe came back with a chip on his shoulder which I think spiraled from the no shirt conversation they had and he went in directly dissing. Then Mick chimed in after after hearing his name in lamda song. All dope emcees btw. Matter of fact got another dope emcee in the background blacksmith who I watched grow up in my street. Put the Field on the Map young man. We routing for Ya!

[@liedz_]

That's a very lazy narrative man. Royce didn't pick no damn fight and the point wasn't to diss each other, he mentioned Lupe in Silence of the Lambda because Lu did a 9min freestyle on Royce after the top less live where Lu spoke reckless to Royce and Royce called him him a bitch (slip of a tounge, understandable). SOTL was a lyrical display also checking that(very important) 9min freestyle on Royce's name. I think everyone knows if he wanted to diss Lu personally it wouldn't have been a damn problem (stop fronting on 5'9). Mickey wanted in because that sun chips line was very far from addressing him (so Royce gave it to him coz he asked about it) he was looking for an excuse if you ask me. Beef is not what Royce wants and those diss tracks are suggesting that we're not cool and anything can happen if you come at me personally like that. I hope this makes sense.

[@Rickdabarber100]

Truth!

[@PlextheDestroyer]

@@liedz_ finally I see someone who been tuned in the whole time and saw what I saw these mfs disrespectful

[@THEGOAT-st5er]

Hoffa drop this spicy chicken sandwich with pepper jack cheese the world needs this 😆

[@Mathhoffa]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@dubwbc5567]

Royce got humbled 😂

[@jamint.jaddua1771]

Hahahaha 😂🤣😅

[@Helldog6]

The thing is, I don't think he did lol Royce loves to pretend to be woke but the fact is, he's ignorant is fuck

[@troykozlowskitheclevelande4706]

@@Helldog6 and you're ignorant as f*** for saying that

[@getayereigns2438]

mickey humbling himself now lol

[@Hoyt.45]

Who apologized?

[@echad6259]

No bias. No sides. Right is right.

[@WhatsTheWordHipHop]

So Lupe basically?

[@echad6259]

@@WhatsTheWordHipHop and Mickey. Hands downs.

[@dinglo23]

Shout out to Micky factz, he checked all them boxes

[@ericleonard1384]

Lupe is the greatest rapper alive. Royce is a great rapper and one of my favorites but lupe and Mickey checked off boxes. On top of that they both responded very fast

[@sherekhanxii]

"I started out as a battle rapper" He said that on Tabernacle and I think back in the day, beating a person on a battle lyrically mightve worked, but in today's standards there's just more to it. Being lyrically isn't enough these days. You gotta punch and punch hard.

[@georgejohnson179]

that's exactly why he got bodied by mistah fab in a rap battle

[@2tallnegrito7cmn55]

Royce went at the wrong mc, Lupe is a walking wordsmith and also truth teller. Ryoce just a really good rapper. Lupe also a rebel against the system

[@k.t6302]

Nigga Lupe is pushing fah da vaccine for all of his fans.

[@2tallnegrito7cmn55]

@@k.t6302 ya because he is buying time. The vaccine is not the issue its the end goal the problem. He can't speak on it because they will shut him down. I don't want the vaccine because i too know the end goal but i know we have 15 more years before the true imprisonment starts. Ill say this, if u tryna maximize your time to prep and secure your family before this bubble blows, get this vaccine to keep off radar, but do not get the next phase incoming in 5 years which will be a slow release capsule. I don't wanna say too.much on this topic cuz systems really see everything. But as far as rap, lupe beats royce because mentality differences.

[@nl5h]

@@k.t6302 what the fuck does this have to do with hip hop.

[@nl5h]

@@2tallnegrito7cmn55 but the other medicine, doctor visits, antibiotics youve taken in your life havent imprisoned you? its your health dumbass.

[@k.t6302]

@@nl5h nigga jus read and understand what the comment said about Lupe and you'll know.

[@RiverSideJettz88]

Yes State Property vs The LOX would have been crazy af high school memories all over again lol

[@roberttidwell3066]

Dipset never rapped as good as the LOX.. wild buggin

[@stoptheviolence3358]

Neeeeeeevvvvvveeeerrr I’m glad you said that

[@jasaiking4673]

Never. The L.O.X. D-Block Just Different

[@GBsavant]

but they were more influential in every way.

[@damientillman9]

Math right. Styles was grabbing his leg and foot then Cam was trying to get him off. I think people are overreacting to something they don't know the details about (as usual).

[@KingBeastBDE]

Styles just spoke on this and u can watch the footage. Styles sat in the chair and it broke. When it broke Cam started kicking him telling him to get off. That’s when Styles grabbed him.

[@bryantjohnson808]

You and math got the story wrong Cam kicked first

[@emmsonbrown2249]

The internet is a dangerous playground. One mis-information can start a total war.

[@damientillman9]

@kingvance thank you for clearing it up. The overreacting and the "I woulda did this if that was me..." is unnecessary because you can't speak for other grown men.

[@locklife4336]

@@emmsonbrown2249 Facts, the fans and media make more out of the issue than the actual artist. It’s like they hate when the artist are getting along or when they feel they’re favorite artist is not getting one up on the other.

[@dubwbc5567]

Royce been quiet lately 😂 it’s pressure!!!!

[@ricks4comedy304]

Aint no pressure on Royce if you think any of this has pressure on any of them frfr... you dead wrong. Its no pressure from each other that pressure is coming from US... Trying to pressure him. He ain't sweating it everyday and worried about it frfr

[@PodRealoaded]

@@ricks4comedy304 and if that's the way he Gon do this, that's a bad look man

[@Yerotik]

Math here to stay!! 💪💪💪💪

[@akafaze9873]

I thought Mickey was gonna start quoting "Til I Collapse" at some point, lol. Shout out to my birthday brother. July 13th!

[@PlextheDestroyer]

7/13 ♋️💯

[@dwaynetownsend6609]

My brother and niece the same day , mine 7/20 big cancer shit salute 🔥

[@dkmrap1]

him being a cancer makes so much sense. royce is one, too.

[@superdopehiphop]

Objectively Lamda by Royce fire lyricism, not really a diss Lupe’s was quick/direct but minus a few couple dope writtens you could tell it was freestyle and light so average to me especially compared to his elite A game pen. Mickey’s WRAiTH is pure 🔥pen game lyricism and direct! It was a classic diss to me and arguably most lyrical direct diss ever on wax.

[@CSpad]

I agree 100%. But, i def think most if that last 2 min was ish he had wrote or worked out.. cause the way he flipped royce relationship with Em, was done in such such a cold way, without ever mentioning Em by name, the bar was not having 2 say it. Lol. Then cherry on top.. i don't blame ya, he's 1 of my faves .. after just calling Royce an apprentice just basically biting a style. Cause dissing royce 4 his relationship wit em is low hanging fruit. Worst battle rapper in the world would come up with similar hard punches.. Lupe always been a craftsman Royce need 2 stand up & back up the ish hes been rappin & talkin about fir last 5-7 yrs. So, expect to get called out.

[@AmenForeal]

Mite be the best assessment for it!

[@suppression2142]

I agree with this forsure.

[@bringinthedope5929]

I love nuance and objectivity. The side picking thing based on current consensus opinion, is gross

[@superdopehiphop]

@@bringinthedope5929 exactly!

[@dloftan5539]

Royce a emotional clown 🤡 and shouldn’t ever speak on battle rap or other rappers . Royce too sensitive for the battle rap culture

[@nocapo7658]

U shouldn't be speaking on rappers in u not a rapper clown u got a cartoon character for your profile how can anybody take u serious foh

[@refillz5281]

@@nocapo7658 Horrible take.

[@Jay62812]

@@nocapo7658 what? 😂

[@nocapo7658]

@@Jay62812 clown

[@nocapo7658]

@@refillz5281 clown

[@jidmoore10]

Royce really disappointed me with how he handled this, always thought he was more about it than that smh

[@LookAtThisDudeLmaoo]

It’s tough af.. especially when I went back and listened to Royce and realized his cool ass voice and flows carries a lot of his mid ass bars

[@erikk2687]

Nah mickey it all started once you, ransom, lupe and royce da 5'9 was on live and lupe asked you was he better than both royce and ransom and you replied Yes. That's when the energy changed

[@thetruest7497]

I actually agree with this. Lupe addressed it in his rap though about haphazardly putting the truth all in their face. Because Mickey is better than Royce.

[@nl5h]

@@thetruest7497 sorry mickey hasnt proven hes better over time vs royce

[@thetruest7497]

@@nl5h yes. He has. All you have to do is listen to Mickey rap. It becomes quite clear he's a better rapper in every facet. It's not a knock on Ryan, it's more of a testament to Mickey clearly being a student of the craft. He takes pride in knowing how to do all the rap things where Ryan thinks adding multi syllable rhymes automatically makes it better. Ryan needs to study hip hop a little (or a lot) more.

[@nl5h]

@@thetruest7497 from a body of work perspective we can agree to disagree. peace.

[@thetruest7497]

@@nl5h we can disagree. But once I listened to Mickey MauSe and Hue, I had to acknowledge Mickey as one of the best. Murdering Ryan on wax was just the opening that got me to listen to Mickey.

[@mr.franco7259]

Shout out to Peter Quillin former Boxing Middleweight titleholder, hope he is doing well

[@jengriffin152]

Yo Hof! 💙💙💙!

[@mr.uncleg5307]

Dude might’ve been waiting to bring up the Lox vs Dipset issue, cus that convo deeeerailed, 😂

[@jstray7582]

I hated he derailed mickey lol 😂

[@WilTimesTheBigScreen]

The lives have the dates on them when you post it right ?

[@YoungEnthusiasticStories]

Being better than the person you were the day before…that’s when you’re the best.

[@BENWORKIN89]

Also wanna add- Math you came a long way lord. From all the battles, to the beginning of this podcast, up to now. You still got my respect from one MC to another. Glad to see you still getting busy with the music and I look forward to seeing you battle again one day if not soon. 🫡

[@babyfacedkayos]

Royce is over rated. He’s DEAD NICE but he’s SLIGHTLY more famous than Mickey and he’s talking like he’s a GOAT. He forgets Lupe is actually A MEAN PEN and he’s actually popular IRL

[@jstray7582]

Right? This part. Royce acting all elite when lupe is "bigger" than all of them.

[@princetchalla6094]

Whatever Lux and Mook said to Lupe before he jumped on live is what ruined everything.

[@oktoberwindz352]

It's all Loaded Lux , Murda Mook and a little bit Young Guru's fault for instigating a Royce VZ Lupe battle, but whatever Lux said to Lupe over the phone on the last live they all did sparked the bad energy....smh

[@scarecrowzw]

So nothing to do with Royce being arrogant? Him acting like he is untouchable?

[@viperrecords3288]

@@scarecrowzwReally like Lupe isn’t arrogant?

[@jfraz1992]

Mickey & Lupe > Royce, he slept on them because they were looked as nerdy back pack rappers & backfired when Lupe & Mickey went to the booth

[@joshacosta7676]

I hated on Factz on the beginning but yo... Dude is sick!!! Plus he loves hip hop and great plans for the cloture in the future... Much props and love to a beast 💪💪💪 Micky is great 💪💪💪 keep doing what you do 👑

[@qj8195]

Lyrically I think we all knew Dip wasn't on the same level as Lox. They both did they thang for the ppl in hip hop and places are cemented, we should be satisfied that we got to see them in concert. Next time I hope it's just the concert(adding State Prop would be dope asf). S/O to all the dudes that made the music of my yrs coming up

[@user-hx7cc2qf7o]

Royce need to man up …. Don’t get it twisted I got faith in him … just rap brutha !!

[@chrisscornerx3]

He will. I have a feeling he's cooking rn

[@iveywebb]

FACTS 💯

[@iveywebb]

@@chrisscornerx3 I hope so because I'm ready for this lyrical warfare. We already know Mickey got ammunition until 2022. Ugggh I need this in my life 😩💯.

[@PlextheDestroyer]

Remember the D12 diss “Malcolm X” Royce would make both Mickey and Lupe uncomfortable if he got into that bag

[@lecurymccray5804]

@@PlextheDestroyer yea, Royce was playing around and wanted it to just be lyrical. Mickie and Lupe already had diss tracks for him. The people that's sleeping on Royce really javnt been paying attention. Some people can't half way things and I think for Royce that's him.. Diss tracks not supposed to be friendly and they may have gave Royce some motivation..

[@kiddangerousnorbeslastarti1816]

It's hard to pick lol I'm math hoffa number 2 lmao 🤣🤣🤣 fire episode math hoffa sir

[@NormBates]

Is there a full episode of this out ?

[@stephjuststeph]

HoffaGang

[@ajyoung24]

How tf they didn’t let Mickey finish answering the damn question? Mfs are distracted like a mf

[@Sonny173]

Idk man I'm deff not a royce Stan but 20 years spitting just bars if he wanted to it could be a killshot situation im just talking hip hop

[@k.f.harris4072]

Salute to E.O.W🔥🔥🔥

[@Mathhoffa]

E. O. Duuuuub!

[@viperrecords3288]

What’s crazy is Royce brother went at BOTH OF THEM and to me is the best diss out of all of them.

[@marcpatten1144]

but when does this episode drop??

[@KalElDaily]

I know Mickey is one of the great pens Yall really still sleeping This is not new

[@blackmamba274]

Structuring rules had its place but the passion is the heart of music

[@jayjayrodrigues]

royce put mad miles in he walked like 750 miles

[@SupaNatural28]

Royce need to hurry up mannnn. We waiting

[@dloftan5539]

I’m not waiting he already made himself look like a female

[@Themosaicsound]

His antics already gave him the L

[@drittzz9245]

He ain't doing that shit lol 🤣

[@gregoryg1303]

For how long i aint even waiting no more lol

[@nl5h]

hes in a no win situation now the time has passed

[@Imichaelperry]

The group that i would have loved to see against the Lox is Mobb deep

[@cherylglover9119]

Gutter

[@AxxinTheSupernova]

Yeah if P was still living. Or Mobb Deep vs MOP.

[@roberttidwell3066]

Crook a smoke EVERYBODY

[@mycroftwilde4742]

I get the sense the beef was a result of people talking about the same thing, but having different underlying presuppositions and internal definitions for the same thing. The difference in style and approach to the diss tracks themselves speak to the difference in thier definitions/viewpoints. It spiraled after that because ppl couldn't get on the same page, idk, maybe I'm off though too

[@Poetryforstoners]

When this coming episode coming ?

[@Mathhoffa]

Next week. Dropping the relevant clips asap so you might see a few more.

[@jillwilliams9056]

Battle rap is when it takes two minutes to complete a bar when your opponent don't have nothing to say you say the same thing over and over spit all in your face anybody can battle rap you don't have to have a lot of time with the battle rap

[@nexus7monster]

Word... bro with the black hat just gone match the ash black shorts with the knee caps 🤣🤣🤣

[@aviontitan]

Ego. It went left.

[@tracialx]

Royce got killed twice n now he's nowhere to be found 🤣🤣

[@mynameis3983]

👀

[@nocapo7658]

Cause u lose a battle don't mean shit but can any of them out rap Royce hater

[@tracialx]

@@nocapo7658 Lupe would rap circles around Royce fym 🤣

[@jfros9794]

His body has been located and his body is dismembered but it’s safe in he’s studio

[@nocapo7658]

Cause u lose a battle don't mean shit put them same cats in the booth with him and see what happens stupid

[@ab_chillinn]

lol hell of a title but lookin forward to the rest of this convo when it drops

[@gruger08]

Royce need to rap

[@defaultsetting3766]

He was humbled 2 times.

[@BillyTheKidd0666]

No one stepped in to tell them to chill, the diss tracks where amazing but we ended up losing more that what we gained. 😮‍💨

[@Questchaun]

Lu bodied Royce. No questions. Niggas tried to dream on me. Told that nigga he can lean on me. Fall asleep and have a dream on me.

[@gabepeters527]

Let’s get this idea of a podcast/show in the world. Please. We need this in Hip-Hop JUST AS MUCH AS we need Future & Durk

[@LLO227]

Here's the paradox, battle rap is "too violent" same argument "drill music is too violent"...same argument...it's just competition...same argument...they just opps.

[@phallghuy]

From what I saw from the interaction between Lupe fiasco and Royce da 5'9 is, Royce misunderstood something that Lupe was saying and he thought that he was talking crap to him, but he was actually saying overall it doesn't matter who it is I battle. Royce thought he was talking crap and tough guy talk to him, so he responded by calling him a b**** because he knows that he's not a gangster, and because of that he decided to straight go with disrespect because he knew that Lupe wouldn't respond, since he's not like that and if he did that means when we see each other it's going to be on. Its sad cause supposedly they were real cool with each other but misunderstandings get people killed in life, and that's why people need to listen and not be so fast to respond, instead of letting people clarify they wanna just jump off the cliff

[@phallghuy]

@@warispeaceignoranceisstren704 Never saying Lupe is soft but he's not on that vibe so he knows he won't respond the same way.

[@phallghuy]

@@warispeaceignoranceisstren704 My point is my post which you responded to. Should I copy and paste so you can read it again? Since you seem to know these people personally how your talking. I don't know these people personally so I go by how they represent themselves, and Royce has always repped that way so not sure what your saying.

[@viperrecords3288]

You pretty much summed it up

[@hugh_jasso]

4 dislikes.. Slaughterhouse already been thru

[@matherslprj2272]

Math Hoffa give them small mic so that we can listen carefully man ,other person thought words are too rightful to hear

[@quique7764]

Style was grabbing his track suit as if to say get up & Cam kicked him albeit softly which imagine was intentional then Sheek separated the2 before it got more aggressive.

[@RS-qz6by]

Little Royce still hasn't responded to Mickey 😂

[@mikeb8443]

Mickey is one of my faves but he's too smart to act like he doesn't understand what went wrong. Royce cracked jokes on guys he thought of as friends/guys he's cool with. Mickey and Lupe were attacking Royce character and throwing actual insults.

[@GeneralBuckNaked]

Ight now i gotta find this video and watch this shit, cuz im super lost in the sauce lmao

[@LHSHarmon]

@@GeneralBuckNaked it DIDN'T happen like this guy said. Everyone was on some rap shit. And Royce called lupe a bitch. And now Royce got smoked on some rapping shit and he trying to make it seem likes its beef

[@SteveTheTruth]

@@LHSHarmon What happened prior?

[@lecurymccray5804]

Facts..

[@imransaid9184]

Royce said on Lambda that Lupe 'respects white people more than you love black people'. We gotta stop acting like Royce was just all lyrical miracle ish and no disses

[@knowitall3892]

Is that a orange Lakers hat? NY stay with exclusive swag

[@willstrickland9952]

That made no sense. Wtf is Facts talking about?

[@BENWORKIN89]

I know this is an old video, I just wanted to comment on how great EOW was/is. I did my first show there back in the day with Pryme Prolifik. Good times. Club Pyramid was a great spot.

[@XMachete]

dude in the black cap derailed the whole convo. It was getting somewhere but then he bringing his fighter perspective and notice how everyone woke up to chatter about the lox/dip Vz which wasn't even the topic.

[@Blac_juice]

Classic double disk collaboration

[@Donjarale1031]

Jadakiss caught the Glow. Every good MC catches the Glow....That makes you the greatest ever at that time....

[@BryanKalloo]

What an intro to this clip/topic lol narrated well

[@primetime22421]

Good ass cliff hanger. Gotta see the rest

[@YelloDuzzit]

Is Factz tryna distance himself from the beginnings of this? Royce might've been right about that "passive" thing

[@justyne266]

why we not seeing Smart of lately

[@jzurita6186]

The dude in blue hat made that shit up lmao Styles WAS tryna grab Cams foot to get him to stand up, so Cam kicked him

[@SeanSells]

Mickey with his short shorts on like he heading to the Pride parade right after the taping.

[@THEHIPHOPFIENDS]

nigga it's summer

[@EKJJDaKing]

I ain’t even notice he had shorts on yo eyes drifting low

[@suli5109]

Mickey🔥🔥

[@rasheemcole2550]

If the A-Team get involved its over !!!!!

[@refillz5281]

A lot of excuses for royce 😂🤷🏽‍♂️

[@christophereaster5026]

dude sound like he was too scared to pick a side

[@istayjammin2589]

Watching this after the Cole apology.

[@dynamic9016]

Very interesting..

[@alexei71690]

He's been nasty, since kick push. Always had very vivid lyricism, go look at the words I never Said. I went to rock the bells to see rage and Wu-Tang back when I was 16 from a surprise for my sister. He was there promoting loop end.. I think. Didn't even know he was going to be there. Wu-tang, R.A.T.M., public enemy, Cypress Hill, Pharaoh's monarch, brother ali, Murs, atmosphere and slug, sage Francis, and Lupe!!! Best ishh I've ever seen If you listen to especially anything from back then you can see how much of a vernacular MC he is. I'm glad the ishh popped off. I was just watching him live 2 months ago thinking I wish people who saw him for how ill he is the way they looked at him back when kick push came out because honestly he deserves it. I sing in the song write, play four instruments. When you see the clarity and thought from a lyricist at a level like he is. It makes you realize why you love doing it in the first place! All the love~Lex

[@regipattersonjr5218]

MICKEY finished it!!!... #FACTZ 🏆

[@Rio-uv1gs]

We have to look at things differently after Royce didn't reply and Cassidy went into hiding after Tory flamed him

[@derekhakeem8]

That tory shit was unexpected. Cass got a handful 💯

[@Rio-uv1gs]

@@derekhakeem8 Cassidy responded and now you gonna see Tory really spit.

[@Borderlinepsycotic]

….. I am literally the only person going to be factual about this? “The reason this went left” is because Lupe came in the live with his shirt off and disrespected Royce because he thought Royce was the one amping the battle between the two, because OTHER people (mook and lux) called him…. Royce tried to correct him in that live but Lupe would not listen said one more disrespectful thing and then Royce said cooooool…. THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT HAPPENED….. 😐. Clowns…. Lol

[@LeanieSigel]

I saw that live me personally I think Royce was trippin too. Lupe looked more funny coming into the live that way then threatening or disrespectful. Royce the one that took “Lupe” of all ppl serious like let’s be forreal look at how Lupe was looking what’s threatening about that? Lol and I like Lupe but aggressive isint his forte Royce took that personal. And secondly Lupe went to his own live and started freestyling for a half hour about a bunch of random shit he clearly wasn’t serious he was trolling and Royce was acting too serious that’s what happened to me..

[@Borderlinepsycotic]

@@LeanieSigel Naaaaw B… you’re being disingenuous, Lupe was not joking, Lupe was not being funny, Lupe came in there mad and disrespected that man that’s WHAT happened…. 😐. Don’t try and “whitesplaine” it G…. Lol

[@calebdarling9118]

@@Borderlinepsycotic damn I saw that whitesplaining comment late....it do be true though hahahaha.

[@tonysoprano2295]

How the fuck did lupe disrespect him . All he said was some braggadocio rap shit and said lux called me . Royce said stop before you say something stupid ( which can be taken as disrespect) and called him a bitch . Lupe didnt call royce out by name once or insult him

[@Borderlinepsycotic]

@@tonysoprano2295 ….. No, you’re not being truthful and the only way we could actually end this argument would be to watch the video together. I know what happened I know who said what, And who said what first, I don’t remember what specific words but I don’t need to it’s not that serious in my life. Lol My G, Believe what you want to believe, if you don’t understand life as you see it, I can’t help you that’s your daddy‘s job….. lol