RANSOM: "LUPE FIASCO WAS LOOKING DOWN ON ME!!!" LYRICAL MIRACLE VS STREET RAPPERS (WHO WINS?)

[@veksone77]

Lupe is not "lyrical miracle". Lyrical miracle is just rhyming a bunch of big words and flipping flows. Lupe has actual bars about life! All aspects of life...

[@Statuslock]

Yea but his lyrics can be so out there that it gets too cartoony that it loses people. Thats literally why the bible is written in metaphors, to purposely not be clear so our enemies don't flip it even more than they already have. Thats also what draws people away lol. Clearly ppl love to play with illusions.

[@OakCliffTX82]

@@Statuslock those that have ears, let them hear

[@jkingenglish]

That's yours and my understanding of it. Some people understand it different. Which is frustrating 😂 but yeah

[@samwoods3430]

Off top the bible isn't a depiction of actual historical events. Secondly, lyrical miracle?🤢 😷 Where did this ridiculous phrase come from? If you can't catch the lyrics that's cool. There's PLENTY of dumbb dumbb music going around. Pick up a book & put ya shoes on mane.

[@Poetryforstoners]

Ransom said that cause he was mad

[@thealessi]

Anybody with any knowledge of Lupe's street affiliations and anything about his manager would know that the street/nerd thing isn't as black and white with him.

[@mrb.2497]

THANK you. Cats don't know that he's plugged to the streets. But since he chooses not to highlight that bs.

[@hezekiyahhuckaby1938]

@@mrb.2497 For real man Lupe been trying to be better for a long time now he's an enlightened and intelligent cat but not perfect.

[@beedavisjr]

@@hezekiyahhuckaby1938 if you from Chicago you know about his street affiliation. He can walk freely in Chicago. He's plugged in with the VL's & GD's.

[@hezekiyahhuckaby1938]

@@beedavisjr I grew up in Indianapolis and Chicago go talk to somebody else like they don't know the history.

[@pay-o-matteo]

Lupe is a bozo

[@SayWhat336]

Lupe IS from the hood, he just isnt the dude who praises it or lets the ghetto DEFINE WHO HE IS like so many rappers and black people in general do.

[@dfree1442]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d16yoYWaiNqdfsUsi=F1Vbikd9MtKqUUec

[@dexenationgracey1979]

People forget that nerd just means you have a deep passion for a particular subject. Anyone can be a nerd about anything. Also, there are nerds in the hood who WILL snuff yo ass if provoked, I've seen it first hand.

[@Eccolegendz20]

It sounds like a barbershop full of rappers who represent the "dumb it down" crowd. If you can't find the message in Lu's "jumbled words" that's your fault. A wise man once said " Life is not a dictionary. It's a thesaurus."

[@dregohard1000]

Or songs like the cool that shows the effects and consequences of that lifestyle

[@OakCliffTX82]

“And I feel like a missionary, to a clitoris”. They not rapping too fast, they just listening to slow. When I first heard Murals, I was thinking Lu was doing too much. When I sat down and dissected the bars for myself, then watched TimesNuRoman breakdown, I started picking up on things faster. I now listen to audio books on X 1.75 speed, and can retain info faster. Ransom’s bars never did that for me.

[@thexro9335]

It’s not like they’re saying anything bad about him they literally said he’s phenomenal

[@UrMomIsMyGirlfriend]

@@OakCliffTX82 bro really thought that missionary bar was special LMFAOOOOOO Ransom has way better punchlines than Lupe and doesnt rap about corny shit. real ones know ransom is better

[@clarkisiahj]

If you think Ransom is dumbed down you're part of the problem

[@Level7Boss]

The irony and hypocrisy is that Ransom appears to look down on lyrical miracle rappers. End of the day all of this street rapper Vs lyrical rapper bigotry is played out, lyricism matters and gifted lyricists should be celebrated, from Pusha to Elzhi, Conway to Blu.

[@sirrobotoftheinternet4078]

^ perfectly stated king

[@585_Phinfan]

🎯🎯🎯

[@fabolousjada5070]

He’s not saying that he saying that lupe talks down on street lyricism

[@thdoom81]

and that is why Ransom never got signed

[@AF-rx7iv]

@@fabolousjada5070 lupe came up with guys like stack bundles and un kasa.. so his math ain’t mathin

[@alonzox5420]

“He’s LYING!!! He likes Daylyt” 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@megamixa]

That shit had me dying, because Daylyt is exactly who I imagine Lupe being as a battle rapper.

[@e.hunter9427]

Hilarious lolol

[@In4mous1]

The fact that New York niggas sitting in a barber shop speaking on how nice a Chicago nigga I had cyphers on street corners with is amazing to me…and Ransom your definitely respected as a MC and I’m loving the bag you been in lately continue representing the skill

[@Willen_6]

Lupe is "...from a lyrical miracle biblical guild A great white clearing his gills the nearest mirror of skill Somewhere between jazz, Jigga and drill Minus all the niggas it kills"

[@ispeakmucho]

Wow fam... that shit was for real. To shine brighter than a comet and tail, Styles futuristic - we call it Andromeda Trill

[@e.hunter9427]

HEAT!!

[@fishandfoul2583]

EXACTLY why Lupe is 1 of them 1s. Being wordy or having cadence (Eminem, Logic style) is just style. Lyricism is the ability to convey CLEAR, impactful messages while saying less. Like an oldtime poet or songwriter. Lupe just happens to be from the trenches, so he can do both.

[@remarcablemc]

Eminem is a bad example, Logic is a good one. Eminem has bar structure with multi syllables and speed, he does both. Logic is way less consistent with multis, it’s more about flow. Ransom is a killer with structure and multis, but he’s no chopper.

[@freewill9457]

@@remarcablemc Yeah Eminem was a terrible example, Logic though was accurate.

[@Man_eee]

But Lupe's lyrics are Not clear to most people.

[@jkingenglish]

Andre3000 does it best.

[@Usernotknown21]

@@remarcablemc Eminem has no substance

[@wutangblaze8501]

So dumb it down....Lupe is right again

[@TheNaz1996]

Lupe might not be a quote on quote street dude but he is from the streets, “I dedicate this one to all my homies grinding, legally and illegally”

[@staynez]

That whole "Kick, Push" track was a double entendre , hence the "grinding legally and illegally" part since he's using skateboarding as a metaphor for hustling, dealing, etc. Funny cause when I first heard Lupe , I thought he was just another Pharell wannabe (with the whole skateboard thing) until I really listened to his music

[@kingsleyoji649]

@@staynez a great example of why he never got "caught"! To this day he denies that shit was about hustling when we all know it was.

[@yuhbtw]

Nah bro he one of them FRFR

[@dfree1442]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d16yoYWaiNqdfsUsi=F1Vbikd9MtKqUUec

[@TheOneSpurs]

Lupe and Los .. 2 you don't want to mess with in the lyrical mircle levels ..

[@sandiegorilla]

Los and Lupe are both on genius level when it comes to off the dome. It’s like they just store bars just in case they need them.

[@michaelgregory9421]

Man when I tell you if they ever make an album 🔥

[@hectorrivera3250]

This "lyrical miracle" is a word to subtle diss lyricist. To say they look down at someone that talks about the streets is because they can write beyond the limitations of what has already been done. A lyricist goes beyond the scope of whats already been said or at the least give you a different way of looking at it. Jay-Z is a good example of that on his last album went over people's heads and said piece am out.

[@mikee3261]

Man shut up lol

[@kashifsearles4913]

Lupe was a street rapper, he has multiple records with stack bundles

[@RobThaBank]

J. Cole did a song w 21 Savage that's all I'ma say

[@mearllee3511]

@@RobThaBank Kendrick Lamar has Kodak Black on a couple tracks…that’s all imma say 😂

[@DaRealNaga]

@@mearllee3511 Kendrick from the block though

[@mearllee3511]

@@DaRealNaga Kendrick wasn’t a street nigga just cus he was from the block. Lupe’s from Madison Ave in Chicago but his mom & dad kept him off the block too. You can be of the environment and not become a street nigga.

[@ericsellers1143]

@@mearllee3511 bro no disrespect you misinformed

[@lifestraight]

Wu-Tang was both street AND lyrical miracle

[@igotasmaldic7306]

FACTS

[@staynez]

"I bomb atomically , Socrates philosophies and hypothesis/ can't define how I be dropping these mockeries/ lyrically performed armed robberies/ flee with the lottery , possibly they spotted me/" "Battle scarred Shogun , explosive when the pen hits , tremendous. Ultraviolet shine , blind forensics" Lyrics from Inspectah Deck on "Triumph"

[@c.eso9045]

thats why they are still being played today!! i still listen to them to this day!

[@KingDavidTBE]

I hate that verze so much ; i feel like homie just wanted to use big words lol​@@staynez

[@user-tk7rl6hw6c]

No one on this panel is close to Lupe Fiasco

[@lewisalba7825]

Says you ...but we all know that's al lie

[@user-tk7rl6hw6c]

@@lewisalba7825 says his lyrics, concepts, albums, mixtapes, LYRICS, LYRICS, & oh yeah, his lyrics ! Just ask Royce . That nigga still on live walking around his studio damn near taken 20,000 steps on his FitBit talking about Lupe 😂

[@lewisalba7825]

@@user-tk7rl6hw6c his diss was a dud beat was super trash and he didn't show lyricall skills at all cut the shit

[@user-tk7rl6hw6c]

@@lewisalba7825 Royce is this your burner account? 🤨

[@lewisalba7825]

@@user-tk7rl6hw6c is this lupe fanpage account??

[@MELLOMKE]

The fact that Math really believes he’s Lupe favorite is killing me.

[@jacobrobinson8310]

I mean if Lu told him that....

[@MrLawskinner]

It depends on when he told him that maybe. I do remember that Lu did really rock with Math like that. He has a song with him called Punchlines.

[@mbealhighjump]

😂😂😂

[@FREE_WILL_DEFENDER]

Lupe is from GD hood though

[@soldierbreed]

You can't listen to chopper and say Lupe looks down on street rappers

[@MyR3aLHipHop]

Pfft. The first line of “The Coolest” you can feel, especially if you from the streets. “I love the lord sometimes it’s like that I love me more” and that song is a fuckin masterpiece. I hate tryin to hear these niggas lol

[@thedfferencetab1977]

funny thing lupe is one of the most street rappers you may ever find but conceals it so well it’s ha larry us

[@dejacreacts4964]

Only Lupe can spit a line and you actually hear it 3 different ways.

[@ArtfulRascal8]

triple entendre

[@da1only591]

No he's not. Yall have to stop glazing bro 😂

[@dejacreacts4964]

@@da1only591apparently his flows go over your head.

[@amanixxx0795]

Five different ways...

[@Phearsum]

@@dejacreacts4964 You said only Lupe.. But Jay and Nas got a few.. Aesop.. Cambatta..

[@kudabeen]

But Lyrical Miracle is playing with the clock...that analogy didn't make sense...especially if they keep mentioning the names the level of Lupe, Los and Mickey..."jumbling word" sounds like you just don't understand them. Weird reductive anti-hiphop conversation

[@calebdarling9118]

Exactly. Shits too complicated for them apparently and they think they in the convention for best out....HAHAHAHAHAH

[@Quandryification]

Agree

[@1bobchin]

Yeah, I just took it as a competitive compliment but yeah… lowkey it is

[@lifestraight]

Well said!

[@skittelzmusic]

Lupe is on my top 5 list based on lyricism.... Nas as well

[@joeljoseph9017]

Me too

[@ShannonSharie]

Agreed!!

[@MrReeealist]

Nas Is overrated. Nowhere near the ability of Eminem, Black Thought or King Los.

[@joeljoseph9017]

@@MrReeealist u smoking dust

[@Noor_Jacobs03]

@@MrReeealist. Yet he influenced Em. Em and Nas are my two favorite rappers, don't get that twisted, but get off the man's d. You're the first nigga to ever say Nas of all people is overrated.

[@EliteBlackSash]

Lupe got alotta heat for not being into Tribe Called Quest or CL Smooth after sampling TROY, and saying his fav rapper was Spice 1 he wasn’t into the Native shxt when he was growing up. Carrera Lu didn’t always rap like, “Murals.” He evolved, as a man should. The problem with Alot of, “street rap” is that they’ll go 20, 30 years without evolving or taking any risks AT ALL. Freddie Gibbs is winning for a reason

[@MidlandKruiskade]

Freddie Gibbs is winning cause Madlib created a lane for him where people of this generation view him as one of the best.

[@matthewsalmon431]

100%

[@ptrcrispy]

@GHOSTDEINI SUPREME and then proved he didnt even need Madlib to artistically evolve with his albums and EPs after Piñata. Or Alfredo.

[@MidlandKruiskade]

@@ptrcrispy not gonna lie. He did profit from it. I dont think the collabs would have happened if it wasnt for Pinata opening doors for Freddie to jump on dope loops. Alc basically put on his Bandana jacket for Alfredo.

[@Quislvl]

That's the problem with Push talking cocaine raps when hes elderly now.

[@bw4348]

Lupe has way more range than Ransom is giving him. You want something relatable from Lupe, his song "Coulda Been" is something you should hear.

[@herculesmclovin]

Yup, he chooses not to portray that street side to stay elevated and be a better role model. Lupe can and sometimes has, but he wants to make positive change, be intelligent, keep his head out the gutter and not live a life that reminds him of how truely horrible the streets are.

[@kudabeen]

The more these dudes talk the more you hear the inferiority complex...Lupe looking down on street rappers doesn't make sense when he raps about that in his own way. He like many say just have something to say...and if possible do it in an original way

[@Star-hg1kt]

🤦‍♂️ it's not that deep LOL, if you know how playful Lupe is & him knowing some of these dudes then you'd relax with such accusations.

[@dfwherbie8814]

@@Star-hg1kt yeah ransom and Lupe don’t know each other like that. They know each other, but not like that. Stop lying. Ransom genuinely made fun of Lupe and got sensitive and hyper emotional here. Lupe is clearly the better lyricist

[@R.Es1]

BINGO!

[@yaasiel777]

Nah the value has always been in the message. If anything people who grow up listening to hip hop and then choose to participate in the culture can only go two ways… kill and destroy or uplift and build. What are you listening to? Are you conscious of what you are letting finite beings feed you ? That’s Lupe’s mindset. Lupe’s body of work has been the latter from the get uplift and build unless he’s in a battle.

[@bw4348]

This is the kinda talk that got Royce bodied by Lupe and Mickey.

[@thedfferencetab1977]

that part

[@rickymanning9329]

A lot of people don't know that Lupe use to rap gangsta 😂😂

[@RonaldJames-eo2hc]

Lupe is about that life. Dontet the glasses & skateboards fool you lol 🤣🤣🤣

[@Loveilis]

To see A bunch of lyricists sit down and talk any kind of rhyming or skills or battling it’s FUCKING AWESOME! 🔥💐❤️💯

[@Loveilis]

@@dannydreadnought6191 I like to learn how to rhyme from myself. It’s pathetic getting any rhyming lessons from another rapper when you rhyme yourself… btw I skimmed by the video last night. Found it ironic cuz lupe said he wasn’t gonna give us game for free and to buy his lesson yet, now it’s on KZbin for free and I’m pretty sure he has a lot more to teach.

[@jcw034]

The issue is there is not enough credit given to the total depth of Lupe and rappers like him, while also overdoing what non lyrical rappers have in terms of range. Lupe can rap on anything and have a message. He can legit do it all for the most part. But can a lot of street rappers with their range and relatability give the complexities in rap that a Lupe can? Lupe has a right to his view because he can step in your lane and do it with you while still maintaining the lyrics. But how many rappers can step out of their comfort zone and come do an album like Lu? Not many. I respect the view though. Its all in conversation. Good job for the content.

[@AriJordan]

People forget what Lupe's best friend was Stack Bundles and that another of the dudes that he was close to was a street nigga and is now doing life.

[@ptrcrispy]

You mean Chilly? Honestly his case looking good rn he might be out soon

[@juiceplanet147]

The part Ransom is forgetting Lupe can do what he do but Ransom can't do with Lupe does. 😂😐

[@gRimm6loC]

2 rounds 1 & 1

[@calebdarling9118]

Kxng crooked does both better than them I feel. He's literally the ultimate mc

[@floydjones1219]

Lupe nowhere near ransom level of lyricism at all yall crazy smh

[@Real2k25]

Ransom sound bettet

[@Real2k25]

@@floydjones1219 exactly

[@zshakur]

There's a lot of street rappers that are lyrical miracles too.

[@EARART]

I would definitely put Ran down as a lyrical miracle rapper

[@georgethompsonjr6082]

That’s what’s funny to me he’s just as lyrical miracle to me as Lupe. Lu just has an infinite amount of topics that he might go into. With Ran you pretty much know what you’re going to get from him but he might approach it differently.

[@hebrew26commandmentspower55]

Lupe fiasco is a alien 👽..... Peace Of Paper cup of Jayzus shows me he's lyrical miracle but heavy in substance....

[@jaredlhulum]

"You see I hood a lot, and yeah I nerd some Hood’s where the heart is, nerd’s where the words from Don’t represent either, because I merged them It's kids who wanna leave, and I encourage them Go out and see the world, never return from Yeah, you don’t come back, unless you learn some And baby girl, what does it matter where your purse from? Your hurr done, your nails did, your ass fat, but you’re dumb Mix Melyssa Ford with Maya Angelou Become a top model and Sojourner too I try to follow this, what Muhammad do It’s such a old soul inside the sonic youth Swear I’m Ferrari’d up, and I’m conscious, too I don’t prophesize: I promise you" -Lupe Fiasco, I"m beamin' Lupe listens to Jay Z, Nas, etc., so he obviously doesn't have an issue with street lyricism.Hell, he even said that he thinks Young Thug, of all ppl, is dope.

[@VersatyleTV1]

I'm beamin...

[@Caulkkain365]

Lemme sit a list of songs Lupe dropped with a clear message.... Jonlya forever, show must go on, words I never said, daydreamin, next to it. Truthfully to me Ransom qualifies as lyrical miracle in my book. Especially that 1% EP. You can be a lyrical miracle "street rapper" just like you can be the nerd backpack rapper with a hint of street rap. At the end of the day we all have multiple levels to ourselves.

[@jinsaotome3607]

true. big l for example is a street rapper who was "lyrical miracle" at the same time. i thought rapping was rapping.

[@Unrruly23]

I listened to Lupe alot when I was growing up. He's nice. Love & Respect from Uganda

[@mgilbert9004]

I recommend his most recent albums... They were crazy.

[@LesegoMot]

Thanks!

[@ImInYourBrains]

*Dudes on here sounding like:* "You putting me to sleep, n- (Dumb it down!) That's why you ain't popping in the streets, n- (Dumb it down!) You ain't winning no awards n- (Dumb it down!) Robots and skateboards, n-? (Dumb it down!) GQ Man of the Year, G? (Dumb it down!) They rocking over here, B (Dumb it down!) Won't you talk about your cars n-? (Dumb it down!) And what the f- is Goyard n- (Dumb it down!)" *Lupe:* "Bishop G, they told me I should come down, cousin But I flatly refuse, I ain't dumb down nothing"

[@lifestraight]

What song is this from?

[@ImInYourBrains]

@@lifestraight Dumb It Down - Lupe Fiasco

[@CaliGreen559]

Street rappers got too much crutches to lean on.. it's elementary af sometimes

[@lifestraight]

Facts. Rappers like Maino, Cassanova, Uncle Murda are steet dudes but they are far from gifted lyricists.

[@VersatyleTV1]

True. A lot of them don't have that imagination to take it to the next level and say some outta this world ish.

[@romansmith239]

You right but Ran is different tho

[@CaliGreen559]

@@romansmith239 there are a few that are definitely different, but that ain't the majority though

[@magnifayamusic4364]

Lupe makes his own verses battle each other. Don't get no more lyrical miracle than that. And he the best to do it.

[@magnifayamusic4364]

And this was a funny ass clip

[@jeremywashington8354]

Truthfully I have trouble with second verses cuz the first one be so intimidating it be bullying picking on it instigating pointing out all the second ones limitations like you ain't nothing but an imitation boy. -Lupe literally

[@magnifayamusic4364]

crazy shit @@jeremywashington8354

[@celestialnubian]

Calm down thread. It's all in fun. Everybody here knows Lupe is the best rapper alive and probably the best ever.

[@fabolousjada5070]

Gotta make hits to be the best but he’s a ultimate lyricist

[@Man_eee]

Calm down Stan.

[@ManniLive]

@@Man_eee he is right

[@WoziBeatz]

Vince Staples in the back like "is these niggas fareal?"

[@vinnizle]

They acting like Lupe dont freestyle with some off the too craziness

[@demetriusbryson1706]

Ransom has a Presence of Strength like when a child is showing out and he or she can feel his parent eyeing them without looking, so that straighten their act up, immediately…..Ransom has that supreme confidence In himself, He’s a living legend…glad to have been introduced to him as of late, Mickey Facts, Lupe, Nas and Jada Kiss has been carrying that Greatest Emcee of The moment this summer….That energy is shared and passed to Lupe, Nas to Ransom, Daylyt, Royce, to King Los, to Em, to MS. HILL to Kendrick and who’s next….100% HIPHOP ENERGY

[@pay-o-matteo]

How tf did lupe and mickey facts do anything for the summer ?🤣🤣🤣

[@Tdub916]

@@pay-o-matteo lupe and mickey opened a lot of people's eyes to what's lyricism and what's hollow in hip hop. I been a royce fan, but watching lupe freestyle slr3.5 and mickey facts actually do impressions in a diss really caught a lot of us off guard, I remember kick push and thinking it was mediocre. I went back and listened to lupe's album drogas wave and was surprised at the ability and lyrics of the album,and was further impressed by the story telling buried in the songs. Worth a look. Mickey showed that a lot of syllable flows can be replicated, but the style agility, and not to mention battle rap bars in a diss song, I feel that's kinda a big thing for a lot of us in a time of rappers with gun bars and no messages.

[@pay-o-matteo]

@@Tdub916 LUPE 😆🤣🤣🤣 ROYCE 😩💀😆🤣🤣🤣🤣 MICKEY FACTS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 IS DUDES SMOKING WHOOLIES AT THAT SHOP?😩💀🤣🤣🤣 Ain't no samauri dictionary or stolen bar from smack can help these 3 combined mess with ransom .I'll bet my money on it 🗣

[@Tdub916]

@@pay-o-matteo that's just your opinion. They are all super nice. Ain't nobody comparing anything with ransom, I'm simply giving a few examples of how those men ate this summer.

[@pay-o-matteo]

Whoever runs this page is a dust head. Pushing a narrative 🤣🤣🤣low key prolly mickey facts . All my comments get deleted cuz I said mickey facts is only nice if u had a 500 credit score ..dude is battle rap entourage 🤣🤣🤣 and dudes like royce they scared of so they say is nice like shoota93..but they wack and lupe is dumpster truck juice. Oh at events math be stinking too🤣🤣

[@mobccr]

If you’re not smart enough to understand a certain caliber of lyricism, then just say that lol

[@LembeckIsStaying]

That's so embarrassing when I hear niggas saying they can't understand lyrics. Like basically telling the world they're slow.

[@KRAKSKRAKSKRAKS]

@@LembeckIsStaying doesn't mean you're slow, I bet you any average rap listener is gonna miss 95% of the bars that Lupe or any emcee of his caliber spits

[@fabolousjada5070]

It’s just boring at times not all the moods call for lyricism

[@UrMomIsMyGirlfriend]

lupe fans are so pretentious and gay lmao. lupe is not hard to understand and you aren't a genius for understanding his lyrics dork 💀

[@elchobbi]

Lupe is very talented but I personally like Ransom music, hits harder for me and my ears

[@grenathan]

I didn’t know Ransom was this funny. He had me in tears of laughter. Respect 👊🏿

[@SlapDevils]

Check out his old vids when he was beefin wit joe budden lmaoo

[@dfwherbie8814]

Lupe is better at everything though. Ransom was coming off as extremely insecure here

[@KillYaEgo]

⁠@@dfwherbie8814you lupe fans the ones that sound insecure. At the time this happened, there were all sorts of lil playful back n forths and battles brewing between bunch of these guys

[@dfwherbie8814]

@@KillYaEgo nah. I’m just calling out ppl being too dumb to get why x is better than y. Ransom does things like (when using a boxing scheme), “I feel these shells (I philly shell),” and people think that’s mad hard (pause). It’s a big reach. Mfs just like lame in-your-face punches with street rap tales they ain’t never live, content that promotes black destruction, and then simultaneously bash all the actually dope lyricists who rap an uplifting and intellectual message. That pathology in the community is seen and felt all around us. It doesn’t just stop at music.

[@KillYaEgo]

@@dfwherbie8814 😂 I’ve seen people go crazy over that bar too “whattt get it? Philly shell??!!” Even the whole song I personally never found too crazy. But I just think we shouldn’t be comparing these guys. Different listeners wanna hear different things. People could listen to an artist like lupe and be like what all these words just going together not making any sense. But then other people can listen to someone like ransom and be like “oh he threw a little double entendre out there but lupe can do that shit in his sleep”. Then u got people that don’t wanna hear none of this and put on young thug like “he slidin on this” lmao.

[@drdread9896]

This is hilarious 😆

[@p-jaywade1333]

Lupe more of a Backpack rapper. I wouldn't even call him a lyrical miracle. Lines are blurred when it comes to what's street these days too. DMX was street. REDMAN in his prime from 92-98 was street. Rappers now more of on some "dopeboy" rapper shit when they talk about the streets. Everything is drug related like it's the only hustle out there.

[@chaunt100]

Agreed! These bros are a little ignorant with the lyrical miracle bs. Chino xl Killah priest and rass kass will body these 2.

[@p-jaywade1333]

@@chaunt100 Chino XL still doing his thing? I liked that "Riot" record with him and Ras Kass.

[@chaunt100]

@@p-jaywade1333 yo they both went in. Quotables for days

[@p-jaywade1333]

Yes indeed

[@jamesjones-ez9ug]

Lupe early raps were street

[@suli5109]

Ransom is an amazing rapper but he's right about those guys looking down on street rappers. Street rapper can't compete with lyrical miracle rappers because they have too many topics and concepts to derive their magic from

[@oluwaseyiokunrinboye4268]

Very bad take. Lupe for example has touched far more issues than any street rapper I know. The world is bigger than the streets man. I understand trying to explain the world from the street lens though, but it's too narrow, that is why I mess with Lupe heavy, he isn't just well read, but extremely exposed to different schools of thoughts, it makes his lense seem universal. Whereas with most street rappers (whom I love to death) no matter how lyrical, it's basically the same philosophy I've heard over and over again since the 90s, just presented by different people. Lyrical miracle guys (definitely not the majority of them) like Lupe intrigue me because their perspectives are mostly found in very technical books or discussions by people highly cerebral people we consider greats and they just don't regurgitate what has been said before, most table entirely unique view points which further intellectual discourse.

[@warnutztheloser]

@@oluwaseyiokunrinboye4268 facts

[@RioSoul83]

Mickey Factz' Wraith is the perfect example of being lyrical. He checked ALL boxes and to the highest degree! (i.e. 5+ multi syllabic rhymes, crazy punchlines, metaphors, similes, schemes and wordplay; different flows, content, impersonations, etc) 🔥🎤

[@gRimm6loC]

Period

[@savannaleonardo5885]

Factz

[@heezyhines2209]

He definitely went in fam

[@user-tk7rl6hw6c]

They don’t want that smoke . Nerd rap> street rap

[@hebrew26commandmentspower55]

Royce da 5'9 - Dead President heads checks all boxes .. sad he didn't respond back tho

[@camerongomez978]

I watch this every couple week...ransom be having me weak😂😂😂😂

[@LuckyJackson2020]

Lupe rhymes are dope af

[@heturnal]

Battle rappers struggle to produce good music in studios , we all have our place in the game..love and 🙏 to y'all...i was busting up listening to you guys 😆 🤣..thanks

[@dfwherbie8814]

Tsu surf makes dope music. So does Aye Verb. Why you lying for? Lol

[@Poetryforstoners]

@@dfwherbie8814 one outta how many?

[@EF-wy3di]

Ransom gonna fuck around and be on the next instalment in the SLR series.

[@lovehate8286]

They do have a message. Sell dope/ Ignorant shit. Great message.

[@YourzTruly0]

Y’all must not listen to Ransom. Ransom has bars and can compete with anyone lyrically.

[@bsinatra145]

He's basic,it's levels. He not wack by any means, but top notch complex lyricists will rap circles around that man.

[@YourzTruly0]

@@bsinatra145 I disagree. Lupe is very good but he would not rap circles around him. Lupe isn’t always top notch.

[@floydjones1219]

Facts

[@floydjones1219]

@@bsinatra145 ransom is very far from basic lol u got him confused wit anuva rapper

[@bsinatra145]

@@floydjones1219 basic TO ME.

[@robertriojas2639]

King Los gives you the “wow” and the “I was just sayin that” and something to leave with that’s why he’s so dope

[@kamau506]

"Look right into the eyes of a thug, little dumb street shit don't apply to the Plug"

[@Tariq0826]

As a lyrical miracle fan, I definitely look down on street rappers and street rap fans😂🤣🤣😂🤣

[@cdatboy19]

Dumb it down x Lupe Fiasco

[@kanyechain]

I fuck with Lupe but Ransom got me in tears right now lmao

[@c.hillmusictv]

5. Scarface 4. Rapsody 3. Nas 2. Kool G Rap 1. Lupe Fiasco

[@emoryjones]

Forgot Andre 3k

[@c.hillmusictv]

@@emoryjones when your right your right. Too many dope rappers.

[@AFO_AnalyRics]

I can totally respect this. Mine: 1. Nas 2. Andre 3000 3. Kendrick Lamar 4. Eminem/Lupe (tie, I promise) 5. Black Thought

[@an0nymouse95]

@@AFO_AnalyRics Kendrick is Lupe's son

[@AFO_AnalyRics]

@@an0nymouse95 I seem to remember respecting your list.

[@spades7ife]

Everyone doesn't hit play for the same reason. The listeners love you when you tell their story or love you when you can rhyme every syllable in the next bar.

[@bobbythespaceghost51]

Facts.

[@JohnSmith-jc2dk]

Yes sir drop it much love NYC MOBtues. All love nyc

[@gooseman1011]

Lupe is the best that ever did it...hands down...

[@SirTizzy]

Math: "With a name like Ransom....." Me: probably RAN SOME NIGGAS AWAY lol

[@cosinguspalpatine4449]

I think WE ALL KNOW that Lupe is has already surpassed and crushed 97.1 % of MCs. He’s the best because he manages himself, and never had to tap club music to make the check.

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

For real. Dude might lowkey be the best. You can probably put Black Thought, Crooked, Day and a few other names for those WOW flows.

[@cosinguspalpatine4449]

@@natsusatsujinki8342 he’s an ANIMAL bro. And more.

[@aintpace]

paul cain, math hoffa and ransom talking about lupe fiasco is a full circle moment for millennials 😂

[@ahkeem0]

Dnt matter if you a street rapper or not if you got bars you got bars 💯

[@RealAmericanStar]

Lupe only looks doen on yall because he's miles above yall 😂🤷‍♂️

[@gmoney7xbetter478]

Ransom is a top tier lyricist

[@1bobchin]

Yeah, a battle rapper is a specific skill set cause if you rap at all you’ll find yourself in a position where you have to show how good you are and defend yourself

[@TyBritt1829]

Lupe dont have time for any of these dudes. Haters will hate smh

[@justinriley6120]

The best rapper can do both. Nas is a combination of G-Rap and Rakim. Em is nice, he can be the best of both, he plays to much with flow and delivery at times to me and can’t understand what’s he’s saying off the bat.

[@LoneWolfHustle]

Nas is not in that category

[@INFINITESOULS88]

And Nas said Lupe is the only rapper who reminds him of himself ironic u mentioned Nas name

[@joeljoseph9017]

@@LoneWolfHustle u out of your mind Nas is up their with any rapper

[@zedagubata8713]

@@LoneWolfHustle nobody is touching nas best 20 verses. NO ONE. Especially nobody not named Rakim. It’s DIFFERENT. It’s not about dragging so many words around and expounding so many ideas...being all over the place with entendres... NAS does ONE thing better than all these niggas, he understands HOW to tell a story that will forever stick with you. Forever. These other guys,..shit feels good, two weeks later you remember a line or two that’s it.

[@joeljoseph9017]

@Terence Johunkin that's your opinion and my opinion is Nas is better than all of them especially jayz

[@saad-ul4mr]

it's not about "what you said" and "how you said it", it's also about "how do you hear it", i love ransom but once he understand this, he's gonna be BIG even more and i'm fan of his music too

[@UncleRandy73]

Math is smooth.. lol He’s gonna get some crazy stuff kicked off. Let’s go

[@khrashingphantom9632]

So this is the living embodiment of “Dumb it Down” lol. Well I always suspected Lupe was a time traveler. Lol. If you know you know. 😉

[@locklife4336]

Ransom and Lupe are 2 different types of rappers and you listen to them for 2 different things. They don’t even rap about the same things, nor have they ever had similar content.💯

[@jinsaotome3607]

i kind of see what they're saying a little bit on the parts when they talk about rapping straight forward, and lyrics having impact without it being dressed up in excessive wordplay. i just don't like the term "lyrical miracle" b/c i feel like it's used too much to write off being lyrical. the same way ransom says "lyrical miracle" dudes look down on "street rappers," i've seen the street rappers use "lyrical miracle" as a way of acknowledging someone can rap, but looking down on them because they don't do "gangster rap". the old term was "backpack rapper". now i see "lyrical miracle". both styles are valid imo. as long as you can rap. if an mc can do both, impact, and "lyrical miracle", even better.

[@LembeckIsStaying]

Exactly. It used to be backpacker or cypher nerds because street dudes never freestyled apparently but that's a lie. Like someone else said earlier, it's just inferiority complex.

[@gregorytait5728]

Lupe really from the streets tho! Difference is he don't talk that street shit cause he ain't about to influence his listeners to be on some street shit! Plus it's 2 easy to talk that gangsta gangsta tuff guy shit. We heard it all B4 anyway. He drops songs that make u have to really listen to understand what he's saying. Double and triple entendres! A real artist will make u think. Not make u wanna go grab a gun a shoot some shit or go fuck something up. We got enough traps and setups in this world. No need to be influenced by your favorite rapper to fall into another statistic!

[@reggiemillsaps9768]

Lupe needs to be on this show…

[@kudabeen]

Mickey brilliant because he from New York, but Lupe Lyrical Miracle because he isn't...pretty much

[@YelloDuzzit]

Not at all what this video was about 🤣🤣😂😂 where you from? That you got that from this??

[@Quandryification]

Exactly

[@lovej.a.e6750]

LUPE GOT MORE STREET CRED THEN MOST "STREET" RAPPERS LAST TIME I CHECKED BUT IDK COULD BE MISTAKEN LOL

[@thedfferencetab1977]

you’re not mistaken 😅 the smoothest way to be

[@amanSpawn00]

It’s sad Ransom feels that way. Because what he’s saying? Is exactly how the lyricists feel the streets look at them

[@derekjwilliams007]

Step your mental game up people

[@HarlemsFinest85]

That’s why he wrote ‘dumb it down’ for y’all 😂

[@NazeemSpencerJoles]

Ransom is a lyrical miracle street rapper

[@kofiweedston42o]

Joust with me 🤣🤣🤣

[@ChilomboKansankala]

Ransom is a monster too🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@pallzton4319]

Mustn't never heard none Lupe early joints

[@leagolekganyane]

Ransoms beard is making me very uncomfortable

[@hugh_jasso]

If street rappers wasnt always rapping about the streets there wouldn't be so many locked up for self snitching. And dont get it twisted, lyrical miracles is street niccas too, in and out of jail that could lyrically lace you up but might choose not to promote That Life.

[@mushinjedi6526]

Ransom is fucking hilarious 🤣

[@cesheph]

He cracks me up 😅

[@calebdarling9118]

Lupe would literally destroy everyone in there...idk why cane is saying he's gonna be rapping hahahah

[@mazzb305]

Lupe the 🐐 on the low