DJ CLUE REVEALS IRV GOTTI TOLD JAY-Z TO CHANGE HIS DISS RECORD TO NAS & NAS STARTED IT!!!

[@moreLvF3]

Nas sitting in that seat would be beyond legendary. Make it happen!

[@BingeworthyContent]

It will

[@Godschildct]

It's coming soon! Math has yet to let us down

[@Peewee265]

Mann you on to something

[@mearllee3511]

Nas will control the narrative like he did with Nore on Drink Champs…Nas hates doing interviews

[@Opaque28]

Esco ain't doing that...Math gets petty @ times.

[@darnellj.9812]

Clue archives gotta be God level!!!!!!!! This is dope !!!!!! Hoffa delivered

[@badnewzscubasteve]

He had his whole mixtape collection on a hard drive for sale at one point.. don't know if he still does

[@ChrisCasey5general]

Big facts

[@onpoint357]

Show me the money 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 holiday holdup 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Heve E components pt 2 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 R&B just cruising 1 & 2 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 The professional 1& 2 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Few of my favourites clue mixtapes.

[@dutchy213]

Definitely Hoffa for win 🏆 k

[@triggatrevor1849]

@@beep6641 Riot Squad!!!

[@JADTO]

1. Jay feels Nas subbed him on "We Will Survive" 2. Jay subbed Nas on Bleeks "What You Think of That" 3. Nas says "wanna ball til u fall I can help u with that, want beef I can let a rocket melt in ur hat" 4. Bleek says "ya lifestyles written, who u supposed to be play your position" 5. Nas says "oh u didn't, wanna know who's life was written, this ice, the women"

[@siobkny]

Son know wussup you was definitely outside definitely understood the assignment 🤔

[@TheBulletzgottishow20]

Clue changed the game when it came to mixtapes he up there with Ron g kid Capri Brucie b whoo kid is another great one

[@RAME716]

Up there he blew them out the fucking water

[@kasheem1747]

Whoooo kid !

[@TheBulletzgottishow20]

@@RAME716 facts clue had everybody exclusive shit

[@ShyTheRula]

Don’t forget kay slay

[@MrWARBUCKS24]

@@TheBulletzgottishow20 he was stealing dats from the studios

[@hoopslove5268]

Math your timeline is off. "I etched your name out, put Jigga on top". That's the shot. Nas was already a triple platinum artist. Vol 2 put Jay Z into super stardom. So Nas was actually responding to that and Jay Z calling himself Hova. You have to remember Biggie and Nas were on each others radar before big passed. Not JayZ. So i'd still say Jay started it. Doesn't matter now. Just attempting to let you know

[@2KILLAVILLE]

Agree..Jay was still highly praising Nas on My Lifetime tracks Where I'm From & Sampled more if Nas voice on Rap Game like a Crack Game. Hardknock Life global commercial success is when Jay started feeling himself & thought he was top dog. Yeah Nas & Biggie dud throw those subliminal jabs @ each other. Nas even said it was "fun to hear Biggie's response but now lyrical competition is none" on We Will Survive off I Am Album

[@23MUCKE]

Yup and Bleek dropped 'Mind right' Nas responded with 'Come and Get Me' and Jay dropped also a Song called 'Come and Get me' plus 'Is that your Bicht' only after that Nas dropped his verse on that QB Finest song and the Eye for an Eye Freestyle

[@knicknack4511]

Facts!!!! That’s the exact first shot!

[@2005mssmsm]

Y’all both wrong

[@2KILLAVILLE]

@@Theslightlyoffpodcast Heard Jay wanted Nas on the dead Prez video with them on the table scene too but Nas turned him down

[@LurnWell]

Nas said "Stillmatic" on that verse. That was way after Memphis Bleek and Jay Z were already playing with his name.

[@henokbaarez7464]

Exactly. It’s was 2000. Not before bleeks first album

[@youngsm06]

Shout to Math for staying consistent! Keep this 4 right here. Y’all will go far

[@danieljones5153]

glad that female not there

[@TheRealPrinceCastro]

@@danieljones5153 you will go down as the best Quarterback ever to be a New York Giant

[@danieljones5153]

@@TheRealPrinceCastro what?

[@blissdad13]

This whole thread is HILARIOUS

[@alantoler8266]

Nas be talked about everywhere ...TRU legend the GOD NAS....only Real legends get brought up like this

[@kahifnaar2934]

Jay Z made a whole song called "CITY IS MINE' after Biggies Death. Nas responded said "Niggas Claim to be New Yorks King👑 it aint about that" #mathhoffa #djclue #nas #jayz

[@jamaaldavis7907]

City is mine is 1 of the 3 worst songs on vol.1

[@inthenameofcomics]

Idk why this came back up on my notifications but to help @MathHoffa out, Jay & Rocafella had issues and jealousy for Nas from the start. I was there and heard the music petty bts. I co-created The Dead Presidents track with Ski. I was in 1199 on a daily. I only learned through your show that Nas took half the publishing for DP as I was never given any credit or kept in the loop after the album was done. That was Dame & Ski MO all the way through the Blu Roc era. Thinking about it all now, it makes sense. Jay admired Nas but had an the bigger ego. He probably felt outmaneuvered by Nas and held the grudge. I used to hear all kinds “disses” when Nas would be mentioned and I’m talking circa 1996. Anyway, keep up the great work. Your lane is solidified. I can’t wait to see what’s next for us! COIN aka Mint God

[@Bobbyswisher613]

This is the best Rap podcast on KZbin hands down ! Don't be a hater

[@yd1883]

isn't that method man cousin

[@thefreakyrobber0]

Best rap podcast to you, Don't speak for other ppl bruh

[@davidgrant2606]

Drink Champs..🤔

[@HypnoticHollywood]

I never saw anyone hate on Math's podcast, who are you referring to?

[@Bobbyswisher613]

@@HypnoticHollywood hit the like !?! 🤯

[@user-rk4ey7wh9q]

That eye for an eye freestyle is 🔥🔥 "I cried with every bit of strength in my small body This is the life I chose, under God I'm tiny Hard to find me, I popped up, lock shop-up You can't B.I., see I'm eternal, not luck You get shot-up, boxed-up next for the grave Your flow is one dimensional, your level is 2nd grade You on top -- WHAT? Copying f**k, I said it first, you repeated Your false crown covered in dirt - defeated Y'all n****z all hail, the King is dead He running like a bitch with his tail between his legs Stillmatic still eye 4 an eye, wanna be God You're just the next rapper to die, f*****g with Nas "

[@insubordinatenyctv3627]

🏆🥇

[@robertbruce4054]

He pre murdered jay on that joint.

[@Mr127Patrick]

And they say Jay better than Nas lyrically, GTFOH!!! Nas true 👑

[@2KILLAVILLE]

@@Mr127Patrick Jay not even top 5 Lyrically from BK..I first noticed Nas threw jabs @ Jay on "We Will Survive "on his 99 I Am album

[@king3rdeyesupreme410]

Nas is fuqing golden

[@lucasa1059]

Math. Please. Keep doing what you doing. Every interview is just getting better and better. More and more legendary guests. Peace and blessings

[@keezemojito1278]

Jay was salty Nas didnt rock with him !! Thats really the start

[@KrishnaSingh-ss9ef]

He wanted to do a song with nas, but nas brushef him off. Nas said he never liked the dude when he first met him. Nas is a virgo and jay is sagitarious. Those 2 signs dont get along

[@HiPHOPx87]

@@KrishnaSingh-ss9ef stop it with the zodiac signs. You don't know. You speculating

[@Mansa_Musa.]

@@KrishnaSingh-ss9ef you're not very bright, stop it. 😂

[@bigzizzo]

Nas was supposed to be on Can I Live and flaked. That’s why Jay wrote the second verse of Can I Live. He said that’s the last verse he actually wrote down for himself, because he had to get the song done and Nas stood him up. That’s when the shit started.

[@markesgrant]

@@KrishnaSingh-ss9efthat’s crazy to say being that they all use to hang when they were on Large Professors tour.

[@simmsation21]

If my memory serves right Memphis Bleek started it and Nas finished them ALL!!

[@illmatic949232]

Yea Bleek started it because Bleek thought Nas was taking shots at him on the Nastradamus song. Even Bleek admit that he thought wrong and that’s when Nas dropped the Eye For An Eye freestyle ever that

[@aphilly2158]

Right

[@brittneyrussell5629]

thank you ..memphis bleek started it because he THOUGHT nas dissed him and went in

[@sannioshokede3657]

@SimmSational C That's exactly how it went down🤣

[@simmsation21]

@@sannioshokede3657 he destroyed the whole crew on the paid in full freestyle.

[@joepalooka4720]

So grateful to have came up in the mixtape era , Clue had it rockin all year , 98-2002 he ran that shit with no real competition

[@brandonpeterson6863]

96-2003

[@Wraith3100]

Way before that fam

[@TheThiefery]

thanks to his connection with Queens rappers.. they were the best rappers at that time

[@atomicdagod]

nas finished it that's all that really matters 🤷🏿‍♂️💯

[@damiancordero9787]

Say less😂😂😂

[@ifanagglebagels3411]

No he didn’t Nas went on the work for Hov and banged his bm jay clearly won that

[@biffskywalker4589]

Facts

[@atomicdagod]

@@ifanagglebagels3411 nas ain't work for hov b hov ain't own def jam and he ain't sign nas la reid did . If he owns his own label and did a 50/50 deal with def jam how was he working for hov 😂🤣😭 how can someone who is their own boss be working for someone who doesn't even own the company they do business with 🤔🤦🏿‍♂️

[@doncardi8699]

@@ifanagglebagels3411 You kidding right?

[@peterking4173]

Is That Your Chick was about Nas and his BM who was seeing Hov. That was originally cut from Volume 3, and then given to Bleek with paired down verses.

[@rell27]

That freestyle Clue talkin about from Nas I still bang to this day!! That shit was 🔥🔥

[@therealhmoneybags9627]

Jay on vol. 1 said I snatched ur girl cause ur arms ain't long enough-and yall don't stay in the studio long enough!!! Speaking On Foxy Brown,the firm,etc.... that beef been brewing since 96

[@MrWARBUCKS24]

Those lines on city is and the verse on originators 98

[@retroesso]

Facts

[@youngferocious2983]

Na jay took her virginity when she was 15 and he was 25. He’s a pedophile 😂

[@d-eazy694]

Thank you math for this dj clue is my favorite dj ever lol I use to stay up at night on Mondays just to record Monday night mixtapes I still listen to his collection to this day

[@mrforrester488]

Nas and jay were going back and forth indirectly it was extremely vague it went over most peoples heads even me then jay sent bleek up front and the rest is history

[@snittiwealth]

Salute💯💯💯 this is a serious platform much respect🏆🏆

[@ELDiosThePrescription]

“ Mind Right “ Came out on the backstage soundtrack. Nas replied on nastradamus. Meanwhile hov dropped “ come and get me “ & nas dropped a “ come and get me “ prod by preme on nastradamus . They were subbing one another until bleek made it public on mind right

[@puertoroc1161]

Switch 1 came out 1st? I thought nas did on nastradamus??

[@MrWARBUCKS24]

Mind right was the response to Nastradamus Jay threw a shot at Nas on what you think of that

[@balle733]

Nas Come & Get me was out first because Nastradamus the album dropped first

[@sinematic06]

@@MrWARBUCKS24 this is correct Jay got at Nas on What You Think Of That, Nas responded on Nastradamus, Bleek responded on Mind Right, Nas responded with Da Bridge 2001, then Jay told Bleek to fall back and replied with Takeover at Summer Jam

[@terrelljackson1995]

@@MrWARBUCKS24 nas we will survived started it off

[@stilllyte]

@Math Hoffa... Tell Clue to release that Jay-Z "don't you know" with that 3rd verse. He played it on his show and then the 3rd verse was removed from the Paid In Full sdtrk

[@PlatPodMediaCEOSean]

That one was so 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@nigelryan5658]

Memphis Bleek STARTED IT!!Hes admitted it plenty of times watch Drink Champs

[@Lenasevilla-yb4ei]

He was looking for clout it was nas that started it

[@supremeameen8970]

Nope...It didn't start there buddy. I know what Bleek said...and Bleak is Wrong. Shit started way b4 Bleak was a Name Bruh! But I'll let yall tell it!

[@RowlexEnterprise]

NaS started it...”you should welcome me back...you wanna ball till you fall i can help you with that.”

[@brooklynrose3469]

That freestyle was after Bleek album in 99. That freestyle was 2000 and Stillmatic came out in 2001. People in Marcy was gassing Bleek to think Nas was talking about him. Marcy Forever...

[@j4sho748]

Bleeeeeeek.. No Bleek. I'm dead

[@CrisCozy]

I appreciate that DJ Clue never spoke over a song on a mixtape. If you know you know 🎧

[@DAVIDTORRESANI]

That's real. Shit was annoying

[@j2323j]

Yes he does

[@bowling4clarity817]

" Don't talk to me about MCs on my heels , HE'S alright but he's not real. " That's the 1st Hov line that started little rumblings that he's shooting as Nas . That was '99 . two years before the historic battle joints .

[@jay07261986]

Don't 4get is that your chick was on the bootleg vol.3 and come and get me a response to Nas come get me...

[@humblebragger500]

​@@jay07261986come and get me jay version came out before the Nastradomus album. Fyi

[@dugnice]

And all this time I was thinking the battle started over Jay feeling like Nas was snubbing him by not giving him a feature.

[@TheIkeman74]

That too, plus the bm thing, plus hip hop is a battle ground naturally

[@prsphinx23]

@@TheIkeman74bm thing?

[@jamaaldavis7907]

​@@prsphinx23Jay n carman..nas ( baby mama)

[@prsphinx23]

@@dugnice that was the reason, no? why it all started, because nas didnt show to the ‘dead president’ video … and other multiple invites jay sent

[@gomarozdubar2274]

Just checking the clip out, Math Hoffa forgot about Bleek saying "oh your lifestyles written who you suppose to be" that was 98 or 99.

[@ericmclean4291]

No offense but Esso is doing too much talking. The focus should be on the special guest and maximizing their time to speak. We didn't need multiple statements about Math's bias against Queens. He should have just stated it one time and have been done with it.

[@Mr127Patrick]

💯🎯💯🎯💯

[@82christoffer]

Couldnt handle the henny that day..

[@dicwolf5737]

Esso come off sweet 🌈

[@brooklynboogie1405]

Omg THANK YOU!!!! I’ve been saying this for MAD EPISODES!! 😤😤😤😤 He talk too MUCH!!!!! 😡🤬

[@Wekeptthefile]

I just left a comment saying the same thing. He does this too much. Hyneken tried to save him too and he didn’t catch on being so drunk. Sad

[@life-dq1cq]

Shout out to Brooklyn one of Brooklyn's finest Math Hoffa your bars and your show is official thank you for giving us great content keep doing you it's working

[@prophetloc365]

Get nas on the show , would love to hear him speak on the history and his most recent album . Cuz homie still got it 💯🥶 And big shout out to math and my expert opinion as a whole , they really be asking the questions we want answers to👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@dawsonallen3511]

subliminal disses are better. a diss hits better when you have to solve the puzzle

[@BigHomieDJVIP]

Bleek started that shit n got his whole crewmurked by Nas

[@enzigenes]

The whole fucking crew. Facts.

[@VinceBond-ky2zt]

@@enzigenesrocafella is respected to this day nobody remembers bravehearts lol

[@thinkbetter49ers]

Facts... Bleek is not on Nas level at all.

[@Boxinggenius6]

Negative beans killed Nas on that special delivery freestyle

[@jamaaldavis7907]

​@@Boxinggenius6who's remembered..beans or nas..rite..😂😂

[@IsmokeHiphopLive]

queens and brooklyn always beefing facts 💯🔥

[@wagmidaddy8766]

that's cap, you could be in 10 different neighborhoods and be 1 block from either Queens or Brooklyn. You could of been born in one, live in the other, and go to school in the other. GTFO with your hatesht

[@IsmokeHiphopLive]

@@wagmidaddy8766 huh? get yo emotional tale somewhere with all that weak sensitive crying. Honestly I don’t know how you even took what I said as disrespect or hate? Please leave the Percocets alone and come back to reality

[@carlchargo6479]

For centuries

[@newyorktimes21]

MEO in my TOP 5 BEST rap shows!!!!!!!! Keep grinding HOFFA!!!

[@hempsteadjungle9196]

actually Jay started when he took Nas line and made it a hot song!! Jay couldn’t get a feature so he just sampled his voice …NOT KNOWING NAS STILL GETS THE CHECK FOR LIFE!!

[@Dach0zen1ne]

MC Search owns the publishing for that song. Nas didn’t get a check for that, Searchlight publishing does

[@jay07261986]

@@Dach0zen1ne mc search said on drink champs Nas owns the publishing from that song....

[@skmillennialliving]

@@jay07261986 I’m pretty sure Nas got the publishing after

[@jay07261986]

@@skmillennialliving he said he had the publishing back then. He broke down the entire story about how he got it.

[@skmillennialliving]

@@jay07261986 thank you for the fact check. That’s dope if true. Respect to Serch and Nas for that.

[@underconstruction778]

Jay whole lane was a diss to everybody since Reasonable Doubt. He main premise was that he was the best and his money helped proved it, and other rappers with less money were inferior to him. That was Jay's lane into the game and into super stardom. Imaginary players is one example and that's way before the eye for an eye freestyle.

[@911Nails]

I love imaginary player's it cracks me up every time

[@s.elissa9209]

That’s my song!!!

[@griponthabeat1535]

Mase diss

[@carbon.the.christ5626]

Thats most rappers lane,Jay wasnt saying names

[@PassportKings]

Math definitely has 1 of the best hip hop shows on youtube. Epic.

[@Batman123456789101]

Math Hoffa real talk Jay started it...they both was throwing subliminal bars but Jay did a verse first that took a shot at Nas. Go look at Diverse Mentality on the Jay-Z vs Nas beef. Jay even thought Nas dissed him on the message but Nas said he was actually bigging him up.

[@LembeckIsStaying]

"Lex with tv sets, the minimum....ill sex adrenaline!"

[@Batman123456789101]

@@LembeckIsStaying exactly but that's not a diss at all. Jay had a Lexus with a TV in it so Nas said he had to upgrade his car after seeing that

[@christopherayettey4390]

@@Batman123456789101 now look who's the man now lol

[@justone9181]

Nas technically started it on wax on “We Will Survive” off the I Am album

[@soleking78]

we will survive is on I...am

[@yopauly580]

The way Math Hoffa song drop at the end of these clips never gets old to me shit hard

[@arleneaugustahair8393]

The Brooklyn/Queens debate definitely goes on in my house. I’m from Brooklyn and my husband is from Queens. 😂😂😂 We still argue about whether Jay-Z or Nas started that beef. I’m with Math on this subject.

[@jonathanjohnson5216]

Nas won QUEENS ✅💯

[@andrebundles1037]

#StackBundles!🙏🏼🐐 #SssquadUp!💯

[@Antt_Cop_Da_Field]

Word is it started In 96 when nas didn’t show up to a recording session for hov first album he was supposed to be on the song bring it on from the reasonable doubt album

[@bdot187um]

True, alot of people don't know about this!

[@mondellmon]

And can i live also I heard

[@Batman123456789101]

Also the song "Dead Presidents" Jay wanted Nas to do the chorus, a verse, and in the video but Nas said no so that was a ill feeling. Also Jay and people thought Nas dissed Jay on "The Message" and Nas said he didn't

[@supremeameen8970]

Close but no cigar! Jay wanted Nas in his "Dead Presidents" video! Remember at tha end of that Video when U seen Big,Az,Jay,Ty Ty,etc...Nas was supposed to be there but he declined! And Jay felt some type of way! Go Listen to E - Money Bag "The Gospel" He speak on it in tha last verse! Nas always felt Jay wasn't on his Lyrical level. Who do U think were tha "Goodfellas" which was turning into "The Commission"?!?

[@LembeckIsStaying]

@@supremeameen8970 So here's my take. Nas and BIG were cool but BIG switched up when he blew. BIG still wanted Nas on his album but I feel Nas didn't trust BIG. And since Jay was BIG's man he didn't trust him either. The Lox have said when BIG rhymes on a song with you he disses you. I feel Nas peeped that and kept his distance.

[@lucasa1059]

And don’t ever change the outro music. NEVER. shit HARD. Got that on my workout playlist

[@LanceJ.]

Met Clue at a music store in Houston around 2003 looking for CDs. Dapped him up and talked music for about 30 seconds and kept it moving. Cool dude.

[@seanwilson5516]

3:14 ... and then NAS was hanging out with Murder Inc like two seconds after. Performing with them at VMAs. Some people thought he was signed to Murder Inc at that time. Math you're right, that was some Queens fix 😂😂😂😂

[@thecunninlynguist]

Nas didn't start it. They both threw subliminals.

[@kingleo8048]

Nas started it in 1999

[@megabkny]

Nooooo Nas Started it…….

[@rightouskofi7861]

@@kingleo8048 Started wat before that

[@LembeckIsStaying]

@@megabkny Why would Nas (already a star) beef with Jay who was a no name at the time. AZ was more popular than Jay Z which is wild. Plain and simple, Jay got butthurt cuz Nas didn't rock wit em. Remember the Source picture? Jay all happy to be next to him like a fan? Then pulled some baby momma ish and got with his ex lol. But that's y'all king.

[@HondAC_23]

@@LembeckIsStaying Jay was going triple platinum before the beef started and Nas not responding to nobodies.

[@superstarjay2371]

Memphis Bleek STARTED IT!! He already admitted on Drink Champs!!

[@cordellvazquez7150]

Nas changed his verse as well. They both changed their verse. Fair exchange, no robbery

[@kasheem1747]

Steve Stout said Nas verse was wack af that’s why he changed it not the same thing

[@cordellvazquez7150]

@@kasheem1747 large professor said his verse was going way to far .I guess it a matter or opinion.. same thing..Jay needed to keep his first verse..super ugly was dirt

[@KY-YE]

Clue been in the game so long that…. He learned… Stay neutral on ERRYTHING!!! Lmao He prob saw mad crazy shit in the game ESPECIALLY back before the internet days for sure! He answers questions like he just happy to be alive, like he escaped some crazy shit fuckn with this hiphop shit Lmaoooo

[@Mr127Patrick]

Y'all forgot Nas put out a song called Come and get me on Nastadamus album. That 2nd verse was for Jay.

[@purefire21]

and on jayz vol3 he made a song call come and get me going back at nas

[@siobkny]

Jay verse for do it again was at nas

[@carboncrowns32]

Lol@.NewYorkers playin the dozen... I laughed hearing Math hear a Problem, and then tracing it back to Queens 😆

[@mel-bp1kp]

JAY said the city is mine Nas said no.

[@christopherayettey4390]

Then jay took over the city and told nas to sit down.. Then retired then employed nas at defjam in 2006 lol

[@hoopslove5268]

@@christopherayettey4390 Not exactly. Go back and look at those albums. Nas was never actually off of Sony until long after Jay was gone. That's why he and Jay said it was a partnership when they sat down with sway.

[@Atai35]

Aight Math u doing big tings. congrats my bro they played a snippet of your podcast on the breakfast club this morning. Watch these numbers blow.

[@ricardored207]

At the beginning or ending of the day or night you cannot recreate the era of the nineties‼️ The rap beefs, the cliques, the fashion, the movies you just had to be there‼️

[@09NXN06]

Right!

[@rodneyturner6959]

facts

[@mphenomenal]

Right

[@johngreen6400]

Clues right I remember Buddens said “ You should be in a G-Unit vid wit all the gangsta actors” and Games was mad and said don’t add nobody to my freestyles.

[@marcastephens]

THE HISTORY: 4:19 In 1996, Jay Z started the Beef by sleeping with Nas girl. Nas and Jay been going at it years before Takeover. In Feb 1996, JayZ sampled Nas voice without permission on Dead Presidents. Nas also knew back in 1996 JayZ was messing with his girl Carmen...thats why Nas would never do a song with JayZ. In July 1996, Nas who confirmed his song “The Message” includes shots at JAY-Z with "Lex with TV sets the minimum". Nas song "Black Girl Lost" was also about JayZ cheating with Nas girl. In Nov 1997, JAY-Z sampled Nas’ voice again without permission on "Rap Game/Crack Game". In 1997, Jay Z song "Where I'm From," took a shot at Nas by listing Nas last amongst the best, "Who’s the best MC’s, Biggie, Jay-Z, and Nas.” In August 1999, Memphis Bleek released a song “What You Think of That”, which sounded like Nas song "Nas Is Like". Memphis Bleek said, "I'mma ball till I fall what you think of that?" In Nov 1999, Nas responded to Memphis Bleek in “Nastradamus”, "You wanna ball till you fall? I can help you with that.” And NAS song "Come Get Me" (1999)...second verse was about Jay-Z..."you make hot songs but she know you steal from me". NAS is talking about JayZ sampling his voice twice. In Dec 2000, Memphis Bleek went at NAS in song 'My Mind Right". "Your lifestyle's written/So who you supposed to be, play your position"...and the song "Is that your chick"...which JayZ talks about sleeping with Nas baby mother Carmen. In 2001, Nas responded to Bleek and Rockafella with “Stillmatic”. “Rip the Freeway, shoot through Memphis with Money Bags/Stop in Philly, order cheesesteaks and eat Beans fast". Nas also released “Is he H to the Izzo, M to the Izzo?” dissing JayZ "Izzo (H.O.V.A.) released Aug 2001. JAY-Z performed a freestyle at Hot 97’s Summer Jam dissing Prodigy of Mobb Deep and Nas....which turned into the song "Takeover" in Sept 2001. NAS ethered JayZ in Nov 2001....also on song Last real Nigga Alive. In NYC we heard these songs before they were released. I just went by the release dates of the song to make it official.

[@oblack6351]

This guy is right. It was over that BITCH

[@joeljoseph2028]

Bro jay started messing with Carmen in 97

[@marcastephens]

​@@joeljoseph2028 According to her 1996... Nas wouldn't do any songs with Jayz in 1996 and messing with Carmen was the reason. She said her and Jay lasted 5 years......and "is that your chick" made her mad at JayZ. Black Girl lost was also 1996...in the beginning of the song Nas has the girl saying "Where the real niggas at popping Crystal"...reference to JayZ reasonable doubt album with songs mentioning crystal...dropped 1996.

[@puertoroc1161]

🔥🔥🔥

[@puertoroc1161]

Idk if dis is accurate but it sounds like it can't get no accurate than me

[@djponthabeat2803]

You Ain't Got Bars Like That 💪🏿 🗣Hoffa Gang 💯

[@j2323j]

Daylyte destroyed him Please bro

[@underconstruction778]

Eye for an eye freestyle was 2000 Jay been going at Nas subliminally since the 90s Math capping

[@misters4022]

Hmmm

[@bigsmokcrypto]

I love how Clue knows how to never fold💪🏾

[@jamilbelle]

I still have that freestyle, I just relistened, he’s dissing hov still 😂😂😂

[@LurnWell]

It started before that.

[@michellecarson4931]

1 love from Scotland math hoffa great content..

[@darrickmeek5531]

Jay clearly started it with the subliminals on Vol. 1. On Imaginary Playas "Ya single was 99 cents, mine was 4 bucks" At the time, It Was Written was very successful & the label were selling singles from the album for cheap. They were some other subliminals on Vol. 1 as well I think

[@trenthenderson5914]

That was for Mase

[@darrickmeek5531]

@@trenthenderson5914 Nas said it on a radio interview that it was a shot towards him. And before that Jay wanted Nas to be in the Dead Presidents video but Nas couldn't make it for whatever reason. The tension between them stems back from back then

[@VinceBond-ky2zt]

@@darrickmeek5531you don’t know anythin lol

[@jamaaldavis7907]

@@darrickmeek5531 imaginary player is aimed at mase

[@jamaaldavis7907]

@@darrickmeek5531 Jay wanted nas & AZ on bring it on...n neither showed up...

[@AIRJAVITUBE]

joe said “ you should be in g-unit vid wit all dem gangsta actors” on the game freestyle he hopped on.

[@rightouskofi7861]

Jay been mad ever since Prodigy and Nas stood him up on reasonable doubt and he bought their vocals. This intern made BiG think Nas didn't fuck with him cause Nas hung out with chef and ghost who dissed biggie for copying nas and he also no showed Jay. Jay didn't get the shine he deserved. Jay wanted to be like Nas and and hang with him. Nas didn't see him as anyone special. Jay got mad so he started to sleep with his baby moms. During that time Jay came out saying NY looked soft when snoop crushed the building. Prodigy went as Jay immediately. Jay dropped takeover then Nas finished him

[@traj_mahal300]

Fun Fact: according to Prodigy in his book, Nas thought about backing down the whole beef until Prodigy talked him out of it

[@rightouskofi7861]

@@traj_mahal300 I don't know if that is true since Nas always looked at jay funny. And before the beef too I saw where Jay was talking down 2pac and others artist to appeal to Nas and he thought that was corny. Also the biggest thing is Nas was gone for a minute and people were questioning his status. The Jay beef revived his hype and cemented him. Now I don't think Nas would give up the money he made during the beef. Win or lose they made alot of bank with shows and the buzz created off the tracks

[@traj_mahal300]

@@rightouskofi7861 just what I read from Prodigy's book, the book was made a decade ago and has yet to be debunked

[@marcastephens]

@@rightouskofi7861 THE HISTORY: 4:19 In 1994, Jay Z started the Beef by sleeping with Nas girl. Nas and Jay been going at it years before Takeover. In Feb 1996, JayZ sampled Nas voice without permission on Dead Presidents. Nas also knew back in 1994 JayZ was messing with his girl Carmen...thats why Nas would never do a song with JayZ. In July 1996, Nas who confirmed his song “The Message” includes shots at JAY-Z with "Lex with TV sets the minimum". Nas song "Black Girl Lost" was also about JayZ cheating with Nas girl. In Nov 1997, JAY-Z sampled Nas’ voice again without permission on "Rap Game/Crack Game". In 1997, Jay Z song "Where I'm From," took a shot at Nas by listing Nas last amongst the best, "Who’s the best MC’s, Biggie, Jay-Z, and Nas.” In August 1999, Memphis Bleek released a song “What You Think of That”, which sounded like Nas song "Nas Is Like". Memphis Bleek said, "I'mma ball till I fall what you think of that?" In Nov 1999, Nas responded to Memphis Bleek in “Nastradamus”, "You wanna ball till you fall? I can help you with that.” And NAS song "Come Get Me" (1999)...second verse was about Jay-Z..."you make hot songs but she know you steal from me". NAS is talking about JayZ sampling his voice twice. In Dec 2000, Memphis Bleek went at NAS in song 'My Mind Right". "Your lifestyle's written/So who you supposed to be, play your position"...and the song "Is that your chick"...which JayZ talks about sleeping with Nas baby mother Carmen. In 2001, Nas responded to Bleek and Rockafella with “Stillmatic”. “Rip the Freeway, shoot through Memphis with Money Bags/Stop in Philly, order cheesesteaks and eat Beans fast". Nas also released “Is he H to the Izzo, M to the Izzo?” dissing JayZ "Izzo (H.O.V.A.) released Aug 2001. JAY-Z performed a freestyle at Hot 97’s Summer Jam dissing Prodigy of Mobb Deep and Nas....which turned into the song "Takeover" in Sept 2001. NAS ethered JayZ in Nov 2001....also on song Last real Nigga Alive. In NYC we heard these songs before they were released. I just went by the release dates of the song to make it official.

[@raviolihands5347]

No intern made big believe that at all thats false. Big and nas use to borrow money from each other from time to time. Nas bm in her book said nas loved big but was jealous of him cuz he knew biggie was the chosen one and big shined so bright

[@anthonyblake4427]

My Mind Right Was on the Backstage Soundtack first, then they put it on his album.

[@rightouskofi7861]

Yall need to know. Jay took a Kobe Bryant route to greatness. Kobe wasn't as good as MJ Or Magic Johnson right away. He had to work his way to where Nas and BIG were already at from the jump no slight but he wasn't even on Nas radar then. Again no disrespect but JAY WAS A NOBODY. DMX came right after jay and pushed him to the side. Let's not act like blueprint Jay was who he was all along pump yall brakes

[@imsofocused4678]

Exactly! Hell, Mase was too much for Jay at one point.

[@MrWARBUCKS24]

@@imsofocused4678 Nah Mase couldn’t fuck with Jay Mase landed in the right spot at the right time but during the back and forth Jay handled Mase pretty easy

[@imsofocused4678]

@@MrWARBUCKS24 Jay even admitted that Mase said some shit during that back and forth. Jay wasn't really respected like that back then.

[@raviolihands5347]

@@imsofocused4678 "check ya own videos you always be number 2 niggas talking real greasy on them RNB records well im platinum a million times Nigga check the credits"

[@peacecrusader451]

D beaf was suppose to happen btw DMX and Nas but jay dodge DMX becos he don't want d smoke with dmx

[@ruffaccord]

Best hip hop platform. Thank you Math!

[@Queenschris718]

Power 105 played this clip and shouted you out 💪🏾 you the man math

[@deandreneal6854]

Memphis bleek himself stated he started the beef and we all know who was his ghostwriter 💯💯

[@Mr127Patrick]

He thought in his mind he started the beef, not true

[@harleminthebuildn9234]

IT'S HOFFA!!!!!!!

[@andrewwilliams3389]

Nas did not start it at all…. Jay was mad because Nas didn’t wanna do dead presidents with him.. Jay was always jealous of Nas.

[@LembeckIsStaying]

This. It was really that simple. I still have the issue of the Source where Jay was all up in Nas shit looking like a goofy fan.

[@andrewwilliams3389]

@@LembeckIsStaying Facts! Nas was jay’s idol & when Nas didn’t show him the respect he wanted… idols became rivals🤷‍♂️

[@sebastienc.2257]

How can you be jealous of someone and want them on your song. Stop being a Stan that’s called respect. He felt slighted. And after that on it was written he took shots at Jay that’s why Bleek took shots at him.

[@andrewwilliams3389]

@@sebastienc.2257 U sound like a Stan right now.

[@andrewwilliams3389]

@@sebastienc.2257 Jus like Nas said “Steve Stout wit jigga too much he used to say Jay wanted my spot I laughed stayed home never hung a lot” Jay always wanted his spot from the beginning & Nas knew that.. that’s why he never gave him the time of day.

[@cadillacreece7660]

Mr Hoffa you are on 🔥 with the interviews!! Keep doing ya thang Sir! 💪😎

[@ericmclean4291]

Firstly, who started is irrelelavan. The only thing that matters is that Nas clearly won. Living through that era has made me not trust anything that happened before my time because there is a lot of revisionist history going on. There is a large segment of people that claim that Jay Z won and that Takeover was better than Ether. Absolutely no one said that back when it was happening.

[@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570]

Hov won the war though lol.

[@jay07261986]

@@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570 what war??? Lol....it was a rap battle...lol

[@kareem9954]

I hear a lot of people associated with the rock say they had some issues with Dame but he was the one that put them on. Shout to Dame.

[@FlyteTVEnt]

Nas did the freestyle. Bleek responded.jay z pushed bleek to the side and went at nas.

[@rightouskofi7861]

He went at mobb deep too everyone forget that it's not that simple

[@TheIkeman74]

That definitely is not the timeline. But you tried that’s what counts

[@marcastephens]

@@rightouskofi7861 THE HISTORY: Jay Z started the Beef. Nas and Jay been going at it years before Takeover. In Feb 1996, JayZ sampled Nas voice without permission on Dead Presidents. Nas also knew back in 1994 JayZ was messing with his girl Carmen...thats why Nas would never do a song with JayZ. In July 1996, Nas who confirmed his song “The Message” includes shots at JAY-Z with "Lex with TV sets the minimum". Nas song "Black Girl Lost" was also about JayZ cheating with Nas girl. In Nov 1997, JAY-Z sampled Nas’ voice again without permission on "Rap Game/Crack Game". In 1997, Jay Z song "Where I'm From," took a shot at Nas by listing Nas last amongst the best, "Who’s the best MC’s, Biggie, Jay-Z, and Nas.” In August 1999, Memphis Bleek released a song “What You Think of That”, which sounded like Nas song "Nas Is Like". Memphis Bleek said, "I'mma ball till I fall what you think of that?" In Nov 1999, Nas responded to Memphis Bleek in “Nastradamus”, "You wanna ball till you fall? I can help you with that.” And NAS song "Come Get Me" (1999)...second verse was about Jay-Z..."you make hot songs but she know you steal from me". NAS is talking about JayZ sampling his voice twice. In Dec 2000, Memphis Bleek went at NAS in song 'My Mind Right". "Your lifestyle's written/So who you supposed to be, play your position"...and the song "Is that your chick"...which JayZ talks about sleeping with Nas baby mother Carmen. In 2001, Nas responded to Bleek and Rockafella with “Stillmatic”. “Rip the Freeway, shoot through Memphis with Money Bags/Stop in Philly, order cheesesteaks and eat Beans fast". Nas also released “Is he H to the Izzo, M to the Izzo?” dissing JayZ "Izzo (H.O.V.A.) released Aug 2001. JAY-Z performed a freestyle at Hot 97’s Summer Jam dissing Prodigy of Mobb Deep and Nas....which turned into the song "Takeover" in Sept 2001. NAS ethered JayZ in Nov 2001....also on song Last real Nigga Alive. In NYC we heard these songs before they were released. I just went by the release dates of the song to make it official.

[@davewilliams2881]

I ain’t gonna lie Hoffa really be having crazy content on his channel 🔥

[@bdot187um]

Jay started it over the dead presidents sample.

[@rubbercrew6]

The fix was in killed me 😂😂😂😂😂😄😄😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@negusenegest194]

For the record NAS won!! Lol

[@Madimaadi]

When you heard Clueminattiiiii in a song brings good memories

[@askiahrichardson8911]

Yea they do

[@ducatarina]

Jayz's Diss records are weak

[@thecunninlynguist]

Nah he got some fire diss records....like imaginary player

[@kingleo8048]

You’re crazy

[@ducatarina]

No he's not a threat for nobody Nas was so aggressive it made him cry, Jay z is badass against anyone smaller than him

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

@@ducatarina why do y’all niggas hate Jay-Z so much? Lol

[@kingleo8048]

@@ducatarina you’re emotional like a woman

[@shesherachal]

Get nas on here Hoffa!! And I discovered that my daughter loves listening to nas ,biggie , ice cube and she’s 15 years old I’ve never put her onto those artists at all I mean I was so shocked and happy at the same time so let’s bring real hip hop back frfr and like i said my daughter is 15 years old I was very impressed she had these names in her playlist

[@patriciajohnson4511]

Yo, Philly is rocking (ETHER) as we 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️ speak!!!!!!! 8:37

[@jayjay-dz3is]

Math!!!.....U got the juice now brother!!! (Pause) lmao 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@doorwaytoknowledge4559]

Big ups Math lovin everything bro. Try tj get Siegel up there I would love to hear his take on the different beefs back then especially since he was front lining

[@meladgoat]

nas started it on 1996 the message - 20 G bets I'm winnin' 'em, threats I'm sendin' 'em Lex with TV sets the minimum, ill sex adrenaline. jay even acknowledged that in a interview cause he had the lex wit tv sets

[@mcook-69don]

I listened to doo wop 95 live pt1 and 2 a few days ago. Classics! Get doo wop on here.

[@b206580]

Dude sitting next to DJ Clue look like a old lady😂

[@Mel-yg8qn]

Now see already 2nd clip. I love it😁😁😁

[@sandraatueyi81]

I want to see full version for this video.

[@premothegod1]

Memphis Bleek started it with Mind right from the Backstage soundtrack.

[@cHiCkEn_mAnn]

This one of my favorite podcasts!

[@delanosteelejr.5109]

Love the conversation clips but Esso gotta know...IT'S BROOKLYN!!!! lol

[@Teach_1ne]

West side connection was the mouse freestyle on clue. Used to blast that shit

[@Magneto4191]

A math this classic shit 🔥🔥🔥 Dj Clue the best Dj 💯

[@abefinklestein711]

According to Jay, Nas & Mobb Deep had been takin mixtape potshots at him for years, this new info from Clue kinds leads credence to that.

[@traj_mahal300]

Prodigy exposed JayZ in Source Magazine over his silence during the east/west beef, & then claiming his involvement over "money cash hoes". It then escalated once Prodigy called him "Gay-Z" over "What U Rep".

[@JungleFromHempstead-qv7kz]

1:38 😂😂😂 Math Hell No ….Jay Z’s “Hard Knock Life”….was before that freestyle …..”Cross Ya Name Out Put Jigga On Top”…..HOV definitely started it!!