"JOE IS EASY TO PAINT AS A DIVA..." ROYCE DISCUSSES WHETHER CROOK AND JOELL "NEEDED" THE MONEY

[@guilitotorres9777]

I love the fact Math isn't sugarcoating nothing and keeping it 💯. Salute!

[@albertc2390]

Except he is being one-sided

[@dalcow1101]

Math I have a lot of love for the show but I need to see crook and ortiz on the show as well to keep it 50/50

[@charlesglover1732]

Math is trying to do numbers on his show. The only reason to talk to Crook and Joell is to talk Slaughterhouse biz. That ain’t enough

[@rolandowright8540]

@@charlesglover1732 people will tune in.

[@rolandowright8540]

Its a hip hop show.

[@rolandowright8540]

Royce borning AF to be honest.

[@phillyphiltheking]

Royce and Joe didn’t want to do another project. Royce is doing a lot of dancing in this clip lol

[@samsneadd]

Crooked kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4q2Y2Bsjb-BpK8

[@doffical4282]

Facts

[@369pendulum]

@@doffical4282 It's literally not facts though.

[@cappov]

He spit nothing but facts. How was he dancing?

[@doffical4282]

@@369pendulum it's a fact far as I'm concerned, change my mind 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@Vic_The_Hitman]

Math GOT EM wit that last statement

[@eswift3160]

Yea he did I peeped that 💯💯

[@jaywill4ever]

He called him a dying hippopotamus.

[@SwKinfinite]

For y’all complaining about the straw obviously are clueless to mannerisms of recovering addicts. When has a straw ever indicated narcissism? He’s literally a recovering alcoholic doing an interview in a room with liquor present

[@NubiaFaith_]

A lot people don’t know

[@prezidentjeff]

Didn't know this! Thanks for pointing that out I've never seen this before

[@blackmist1981]

thank you. People attach meaning to s--t that dont correlate

[@emmanueloppong9778]

MESSAGE.

[@HighlyDeadicated]

All true 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@gullydeluxe]

Being in a group before, the need for money is always present and it will make the artists in the group move different. Some are content, some have desperate needs, some are already set financially. And if there is not a party present (either in the group or from outside of it) that has everyone’s best interest in mind and can navigate conversations through all the emotions, it’s doomed to fail.

[@mackinshizzaveli4202]

Exactly why Westside Connection fell out. Mack 10 needed to tour and make money and Ice Cube didn’t want to because he sitting on Hollywood paper.

[@marleyking4208]

Eminem ain't shit without Dre. Eminem should have more involvement, Eminem know he ain't shit.

[@sbrooks904]

@@marleyking4208 bro what?

[@amaurysu3190]

Where do they separate friendship from business? Joe on podcasts he better there with fans then rapping according to him. Royce is Eminems baby, he like the group he like the money but he straight and willing to work if checklist is proper but not cause homies are hungry, trying to create more good work, or straight out of a label and ready to do something. How long Royce wanted them to wait? When did Royce or Joe after leaving label put something together? So why they crying hating on Crook, cause they the too pretty bitches in the group and they not moving if not treated like some shit. Crook is a nigga trying to get work in and yes Royce and Joe are two bougie ass bitches with excuses on friendship and business but nothing about the quality of work or competition. Joe hating on Joel, and Royce choking on fish spine because he loyal but a sucker for childish respect when his man's goes out to do the work, says yo I'm doing and all be like get it going we down if it's good, then nahh if you got that dolo what can we do together W asnt the option it was nah that's not good for us 2 so you 2 whatever with your hungers. Like your hungers is corny we rather have some other theme someday...gtfoh. if it were drill shit Joe and Royce need to get popped for their bitchassness towards rap business. Idc what excuse is, the stringer brothers supposed to keep the squad up, like Em did for them rather then shit on all becaus3 Joe talk out his feelings always. Joel is realer dude then Royce and Joe for the streets, you not hungry Royce you ain't trying to prove nothing like before with Em, you even thinking straight on some crying before fighting shit when the group isn't a priority to you. Maybe in the beginning you ain't think about longevity but damn some brothers were serious about being the slaughterhouse crew and had to slaughter the bitches on the crew, I hope they make an album dissing both of you, see what you do then. Thanks Hoffa for letting him show he wack, I feel all you brothers and being honest. Royce tried to do the Disney shit and say we fans is all wrong for getting exactly what Crook said with no doublespeak or hypocrisy this way yeah that way no.

[@Rondondemarco]

*HISTORICALLY PROVEN FACTSSSSS*

[@007gmoney]

Rise and fall of slaughter house is 🔥🔥🔥 Royce and joe emotional 😂

[@NewEraNoah]

No it’s not.

[@Buhshaun]

Agree with this.

[@ndeed725]

*Esso “They need the money” wtf 😭😭😭😂 disrespectful af

[@simpdown1404]

He goin in on dem boys

[@GASXHAMBEREXOTIXS]

😂😂

[@mdub6794]

He just being real tho ..

[@PressPauseProductions]

That's why Joell called out Math even though it wasn't him saying that lol Royce didn't defend them there either

[@RickPorchiaMediaGroup]

Posture, guarded mouth when speaking, Royce’s body language is speaking louder than anyone in the room. Take that as you may

[@Bmore573]

In your opinion, what is it saying?

[@dloftan5539]

@@Bmore573 he’s insecure and don’t believe a lot of shit he tells himself that’s what I get from it

[@samsneadd]

Crooked reponse lastnight he even talks about Royce sloutching kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4q2Y2Bsjb-BpK8

[@slick7487]

Royce talks with a straw in his mouth wherever he goes he literally was on breakfast club with a straw in his mouth.

[@happy_2b_nappy]

He like long things in his mouf

[@hosienation3.0]

I’ve seen a few interviews now with Royce. He’s a contrarian by nature who doesn’t really want to take accountability for what he’s done. Plus the straw this is stupid.

[@AxxinTheSupernova]

Hoffa you had Joe on the show, now you had Royce on the show, now you gotta be fair and get Crooked and Joell on the show. lol

[@lizpfute9344]

exactly

[@MinistryB4Industry]

100

[@Mr_Stag]

FACTSSS bring joell and crooked stop playing

[@pimpinisanoncontactsport2096]

He scared to get them come on now

[@MinistryB4Industry]

Bring on Crooked and Joell for their perspective. Let's keep it real because according to Joell and Crooked, Royce is lying and being a diva. And their perspective seems very genuine and real, and they are very specific about what happened and why. Bring them on Math.

[@grod6026]

I believe crook and joell

[@garygreeley1244]

Amen brother

[@velleione]

Roy ce sounds so sincere and truthful in everything he speaks shout out to the D..

[@trillyandtruly211]

Hoffa not taking sides.. He calling out niggas! 💯😤😤😤

[@dloftan5539]

Nah the nigga taking sides

[@josephcarston9780]

Haha. Joe is a diva. And he has the paint and the brush. But yeah after this interview there's no going back. Its definitely over.

[@KatoOnTheTrack1]

The more I hear Royce talk, the more clear it is that Crooked and Ortiz were absolutely right in going forward with that album. I’m assuming Joe is trash at that moment and now plus did we get a Lupe response? Him and Joe’s disposition on the matter is pretentious.

[@EverybodyHatesChrisNow]

I assume that you haven’t watched all the clips from this episode yet. He said the issue wasn’t them dropping a project together, the problem was using the Slaughterhouse name and logo on that project. And yes he did talk about the Lupe drama. And yes he did respond with this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b17SYZVsg7JsjJI

[@amaurysu3190]

That's some girl shit. The Slaughter house name was just released, so doing work should have been priority after doing that off Joe complaints for the group betterment to then have Joe leave for podcast and not be into the group the same. I think it's Royce' bias and neither saying they reached out, suggested, worked on or anything shows that no interest was placed in contributing in any type of project after name cleared from Shadey.

[@warnutztheloser]

Fax💯

[@estebanjonas4921]

@@EverybodyHatesChrisNow clearly they not watching

[@MumbaG19]

@@estebanjonas4921 clearly y’all not watching even the guest host and host don’t get it..

[@chriscooley2622]

The more Royce does interviews the more I'm confused with his logic. Crook and Joel was just tired of the bs

[@mikeparker7562]

Basically!!!! Joe likes to say he is getting M’s and Royce can always run to Em when shit gets really funky. Crook and Joell know that another decade would past before they would make a decision if ever. They took the opportunity and got the bag while the getting was good.

[@kaydee1485]

I haven't listened to Crook's side but from what they're saying Crook came to the table with a mill yo work on slaughterhouse stuff. But the dude that put up the mill dont even mess with Joe, so he kept it underaps. But Joe said he was open to discuss, and had a few questions on the new 'deal'. If this is all real what's not to understand?

[@Adeezydadon]

Do you not understand what Royce is saying? Joel and crook sold the group out . They destroyed a brand to build a brand. It’s like getting your side chick pregnant to destroy your relationship with your girlfriend. You don’t destroy to build . It was a bag that they wanted , what Royce Saying that they could of sold merch and made money. Joe not rapping has nothing to do with them selling out the group.

[@apuertorican1773]

@@Adeezydadon Bro, Slaughterhouse hasn’t done an album in a decade. Kinda was clear the only ones interested in making another album was Joel and Crooked

[@Adeezydadon]

@@apuertorican1773 that doesn’t mean anything, they can make music all they want but don’t destroy what’s not yours to destroy, go look at wu tang. Bone thugs, there is always tomorrow but when you get greedy you take away from everyone. They tried to destroy the slaughterhouse brand to make money. My guy it’s disgusting and disrespectful. That shows they both dumb and don’t know business. They let some idiot make them release a album dissing the brand that made them. Think about that.

[@najidastar3996]

joe and royce are the reason slaughterhouse is no more

[@warpathtv6138]

Slaughterhouse definitely need to re-emerge💯👍🏾. Salute to Royce for his transparency 💪🏾.

[@michaelshields3969]

Thank you for calling him out on his BS. Royce swear he so dam smart sometimes, just like Joe and that’s why the connect so easy.

[@TheExcelllence]

So in a nutshell, the Shady deal business was bad and Joe left because of it. Everything stalls until Royce gets the IP back from Shady. Crook and Joell bring a deal to the table that appears wasn't in the best interest for the group especially considering Slaughterhouse can entertain deals from anyone with their complete ownership. Joe doesn't want to do that deal, Crook and Joell get fed up waiting and put out their project which further splinters the chances of reunification. The situation between is reconcilable through communication but may never be the same.

[@nathanielbrown2199]

L b

[@distinctlydri2831]

Basically they could have moved on and not hijacked the brand however they chose to do otherwise

[@dirtyduval9258]

Fucked up how shit played out but if they was broke, like owing crazy taxes or about to lose they houses then I can understand, shit gets real when you bout to lose it all. Alot of the time in that situation you don't think about long term cuz you need money NOW get what I'm saying?

[@nickgoodlock263]

@@distinctlydri2831 making an album explaining why the brand died isn't hijacking it. All they did was admit it was dead and address why we haven't heard anything from the group in a decade.

[@21street-erfication90]

I think 10 years is enough time to get fed up. I stopped caring for Slaughterhouse as a group after the first album dropped...I felt fake energy from them wayyy back. Fake; meaning it felt like they were packaged. If I felt that way and went my own way long ago then why can't 2 members of a 4 man group chose to burn their flags and drop their mics in response to a stagnant 10 year gap then I'm fine with it. Crooked and Joell have like a hundred projects in their portfolio; since the late 90s/year 2000...I can't find one other time that anyone could accuse those 2 of doing anything for clout as they have been accused. They didn't accuse Royce and Joe of anything but taking too long and possibly not wanting to drop a new album...possibly. Once again; the fact that they haven't recorded together in more then a decade means alot to me...it tells me they dont fuck with eachother so why wouldn't it mean that and more to the 2 rappers who make up the 4 man group. I'd figure that it means more to them, feel me. I don't have any loyalty or faith in a homy that has avoided me for 10 years even though we have unfinished business. It's not like you wouldn't buy a Slaughterhouse album if Royce put Grafh, Benny da Butcher and Cyhi or Locksmith in a group with or without the logo and I'd support it 100% so what was so damaging by dropping the Rise and Fall album? I say yes, it damaged an already fragile relationship but so did Joe Budden going at Slim years back... that hurt the group with the label...they been.had problems.

[@Productofthess]

Joell Ortiz dropped like six solo albums after Slaughterhouse I don't think he is starving for money. But I do think Joell and Crooked pulled some WWE stuff with their marketing strategy.

[@akaspon1]

And they had the right to. They wanted to make music for a decade and when they couldn’t they used their connection to SH to distance themself from it. Sounds more like using leverage than ‘WWE’

[@bleedwolf5]

Gimmicks to sell records!

[@amaurysu3190]

Mixtapes aint money...they corner hustles and places to put work to keep fans in demand. The fact is thats what a slaughter house rapper should be doing, killing the beats and the streets, Joe and Royce in estate neighborhoods...lmao. they don't want it.

[@akaspon1]

@@bleedwolf5 Not sure how that is a "gimmick". They were a part of the group and used that to tell their story. I mean, do you understand marketing/advertising, or are artists supposed to just announce they are dropping and nothing else?

[@plus_sign]

he's trying so hard to make Joell & Crooked look unreasonable and it just makes it so obvious that he's capping... we can all see it by the way he talks in circles vs the way they just say what it is

[@369pendulum]

He's not talking in circles. I'm starting to think mostly dumb ppl watch this show.

[@peabody573]

Thanks for holding down your real life friends crooked I and joell ortiz

[@plus_sign]

@@369pendulum nigga please there's 5 clips of him chewing on a straw while everybody else in the room keeps saying to just rap

[@dually81]

@@369pendulum nah nah... LoL people that support this type of behavior want people to remain dumb and naive so you can continue to manipulate them.

[@daniel_najar]

It’s sad that Slaughterhouse never got this amount of media attention when they were together. As soon as they break up though everyone wants to talk about the group. (Not a diss to Hoffa and the Podcast just talking in general)

[@akeemMagic01]

Blame Shady. If you read through the lines lmao this all Shady records fault . Eminem is a horrible friend and business partner 😆 Royce you don't deserve that.

[@natsusatsujinki8342]

Times were sorta different though. Budden did love and hip hop during early Slaughterhouse. Royce was pretty much an underground lyricist until Lighters. Crook had gotten the xxl cover and was making noise with hip hop weekly. Ortiz was that the dude that used to be with Dre. All 4 were dope lyricists but pretty much lackluster solo careers. The Shady cyphers helped. Over a decade later they seem to be finished as a 4 man group. What made them hot is gone. People mature and change as they get older. The alcohol use and younger lifestyle no more. It wouldn't be the same.

[@iamshawnwilliam]

Slaughterhouse was not only on the BET Cypher several times, they had their own sets built for them, one time all in different locations. They were on Flex & Sway shows, The Breakfast Club da Fuq are you talking about? They got more media attention than a lot of rappers but they just blew the opportunity

[@2solid4tv48]

Cap 2012 and 2013 was first time i heard Nipsey and Slaughterhouse Hammer dance !! I was excited Bekuz of Joe Budden and Joel Ortiz !!!

[@Diddy666-n9u]

@@akeemMagic01 He sucks at making beats too To me Alchemist and Stoupe best non- black hip hop producers

[@multidinero]

If you refuse to do anything without any other member, and it happens that that member in question is Joe, then I can see how that can be perceived as taking “a side”. Especially when that same member is always doing those type of things that disrupts the harmony of the group. Sadly, Royce doesn’t see it.

[@amaurysu3190]

That's exactly my point. Joe is a talker he can make chocolate cake undesirable even if his favorite just cause he not in the mood so nobody eating. Straight b@#$. Idk I feel there should be some bars and punchlines over this and maybe even exposing because these masks have to come off. I think Eminem should work more with Crook, they bring wordplay to new levels while the rest want to be on tier as equals without dedication. They looking like the soft half to me.

[@presidave1931]

and yall see it from outside.. lol

[@FORMMADDEN]

But Royce also said when Crooked didn't want to do something he didn't do it....Roy's stance is if everyone isn't doing it then hes not doing it....

[@vcmedia1895]

Man spinning and spinning no matter what ima respect them boys for dropping music why y’all was holding the group situation up

[@MichaelCobbs]

If all that needs to happen is "communication" go talk to your brothers: Crook, Joell & Joe. If you don't mess with them stop talking about it and do your own thing.

[@comics-on]

What Royce doesn't get is; If it's a democracy with 4 members, and 2 members vote one way and 1 member votes against, all the power of decision making falls squarely on HIM. At that point he is the most powerful person in the group!!!! It's clear that Joell and Crook vote together and Budden again. He's too busy sitting on the fence, trying to friends with everyone instead of making the critical decision that will make at least one person unhappy. He failed to lead when the leadership position was inadvertently placed on him. Yet throughout the interview, he's the victim. Crook and Joell did the right thing here, no one thrives when there's indecision. Fans have been waiting for an album for too long. I hope Royce recognizes HIS power in the group, because without his decison, there will never be a reunion or an album.

[@comics-on]

@Max Armstrong Royce just said, if 3 members vote yes, the decision of the group is yes. So the only way the group failed is if he, Royce, voted no or didn't vote at all. If he voted no, then he's just as guilty as Joe when it comes to letting the group fail.

[@thehighfiles5594]

@@comics-on so he has to accept whatever deal crook and joel or else him and joe are letting the group fail ? Get a backbone my nigga. Aint no man with an ounce of self worth accepting something they feel is less then their value.

[@comics-on]

@@thehighfiles5594 Being a man isn't about beating your chest until everyone hears you. It's about making the hard decisions, even if those decisions don't favor you personally, but favor the collective. All I'm seeing here is Joe getting his way because Royce isn't prepared to do the above. Anyway, I don't know why you had to make this shit personal bruh.

[@antoinelebrane3348]

@@comics-on bro you just talkin to be talkin nobody here is stupid we understand business bruh

[@comics-on]

@@antoinelebrane3348 oh really, 'business man' ... no one was talking to you, foh.

[@adnanojd]

That damm straw smh, Royce act like a diva himself, Takes one to know one.

[@eswift3160]

Madnan: RIIGHT 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@zayem8470]

i think this is a sign of him really trying to repress his emotions. Not disrespect but it is annoying lol I’ll give u that

[@samsneadd]

Crooked response kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4q2Y2Bsjb-BpK8

[@TheRealMissingLink]

lol all the way

[@kingkeio1027]

How is this annoying? He's not making any loud noises or anything. Bro had a bad bout with alcohol, what if the straw helps to keep him off of it? Give our brother some grace.

[@CJR-ky3rn]

Math is elevating the podcast game and his cohosts definitely add to the greatness. You could tell math either saw or heard about what was said when Crook and Joel went live on IG last night. They always release clips of the episode but the content of this clip is a direct response to what crook and Joel were saying in the live or it’s a coincidence lol

[@kenneylom8695]

This was recorded before crook and Joel went online

[@CJR-ky3rn]

@@kenneylom8695 100% but Joel and crook jumped out reacting to the clips that were released without waiting to see what was discussed in the whole interview. I could be reaching like I said ..could’ve been a coincidence

[@tr33king8]

Had Royce stuck with that one!!! Good one math

[@thedarksideoftheforce6658]

Royce contradicts himself a lot. He's the real diva he can never be wrong. He did the same thing with D12 and Eminem and he was dead wrong.

[@hidingid]

Did everyone feel comfortable with Joe bashing Eminem publically effecting the group and their relationship with shady records?

[@Blacchogg]

Eminem is not God..

[@hidingid]

@@Blacchogg Royce said they don’t make business moves without consulting the group. Joe made a business move first; but Royce ain’t mad at that.

[@21street-erfication90]

You speak the truth...no one remembers...Joe apologized to Royce and to Eminem, publicly. He fcked up; and everyone pretends that wasn't a big deal.

[@21street-erfication90]

@@Blacchogg Ofcourse he isnt...he was kind enough to get a record deal for his friend and 3 other rappers but shit didn't work out with album sales so one member started dissing Eminem and his label. I haven't purchased an Em album since Curtain Call but I never forget. Eminem isn't God...but he helped out after he was asked to help. Case closed!

[@TheJourneyofAll]

Why does dude keep saying they need money. First off who tf don't and how tf he knew

[@dloftan5539]

They all just meat hugging Royce and trying to win cool points it’s discussing it’s two sides to every story

[@samsneadd]

Crook response kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4q2Y2Bsjb-BpK8

[@UptownWatta]

Royce shows why some artist should just do art and not interviews

[@nanambitious5521]

It was not the same situation with Em coz they're friends, it's easier to forgive when you love. I don't think Royce have a real friendship with Joell & Crook to consider losing another friend (Joe) for business.

[@ATOWNFONTAINE]

Man, Royce is full of it. They made a super group and the whole issue was Joe not wanting to rap on Slaughter house. Period. He played the game cause Joe knew that if he was under Em he would be obligated to do the record. And Royce talking in circles. Just say that he was on board with it but since his homeboy not doing it he's not going to do it. Now him and Joe are in their feelings. Crook don't need no money like that. He got his own thing. He got his own podcast that's been out for a while, plus he's been heavy making music. The same as the other dude. Just ridiculous.

[@kreigerbailey3550]

Portland, JAMAICA in the Building !!

[@Theblaqueone716]

Math speaks candidly every week about who he don't forgive but got the nerve to be telling Royce to forgive Joell and crook

[@Ivan-bj3rv]

This clip ended perfectly. I was thinking D12 and Em when he used the shrapnel analogy

[@tonythesicilianguy7031]

Eminem is a cash machine and one of the goat's in #HipHop. It was good business to reconcile with him. Royce obviously doesn't feel the same way with Slaughterhouse members

[@AgentSickOrange]

back in the day i had respect for royce, untill i seen interviews with him

[@robindevily9182]

Math Hoffa was completely correct it’s not over

[@jacobmcleod5885]

This kind of sounds like bone thugs, maybe not as major but when a group goes separate ways and one member is the one they blame for the misdirection. Groups are mostly like brothers or sisters give them time they'll figure it out on the strength of love for each other.

[@misunderstood2292]

“You don’t have to use deception when your intentions are pure.”

[@triggatrevor1849]

Joe is and always has been a Diva. Dude self sabotages everything he touches. Shout out to Ransom!

[@imperialstats]

Rory and Mal

[@jidmoore10]

How is Joe a diva?

[@YesImJoeKing]

​@@jidmoore10Because he's a woman.

[@jidmoore10]

@@YesImJoeKing 💀💀

[@t.h5823]

Royce got a mind block when asked about his beef with D12... the only thing he got was to nod...

[@samsneadd]

Crooked response kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4q2Y2Bsjb-BpK8

[@rachaad]

Math got him !

[@ginahoffsteder2181]

Joe paints himself as a Diva .....accountability folks 💯

[@GFTM1]

I was taught "Always hustle with people that have the same responsibilities as you". #RipRuger

[@slim_jojo]

This dude this EVERYBODY owe him something 😂 he the Detroit version of Wack 100

[@stephenking5010]

Joe already said he doesn't care or honor contracts. Royce needs to stop lying. Joe and him been acting like they're more important than they actually are

[@superdopehiphop]

Royce is one of my all time favorite lyricists, but the way he defends and bends narratives to protect Joe Budden is Nu🥜y to me 😅. Glasshouse didn’t happen bc Budden and the group is done PERIOD bc of Joe. Just be honest 😅 “Tony don’t fuck with Joe.” I see a theme! Like is Joe paying Ryan off?!?!🤣 The fact Joe wouldn’t talk to Crook face to face and had to talk with Joe is the most Diva ish ever and Royce defends that?!?! I guess it’s possible Crook behind the scenes is not as dope of a dude as he seems on twitter/IG/KZbin interviews etc. Crook seems right Royce Stans Joe and is always on his side 🤣. Also of course Royce & Joe won’t come back bc Joe doesn’t want to rap anymore. I would love for them to come back on wax as I’m all for lyrical warfare, but we all know it won’t happen.

[@_allcap]

Facts bro. Joe already ruined his own name, but now 59 is going down the same path

[@bmryner90]

half of this isnt true at all. joe ran into crook and joell at a telly and they talked it out lol

[@shanswanwaters5822]

Damn,Royce is still jealous of thier success. And these dudes are ⛽️ fueling the Jealousy. Lol !! A group of women. And the pink shirt proves it.

[@dawb86]

Math was so damn off with that OutKast example lol

[@keithfogle9350]

Royce looks like Karceno with that straw! 🤣🤣

[@newageg4792]

That’s right, get on these rappers backs about unnecessary beef…together everyone achieves more✊🏾

[@rillavibez8178]

These rappers really emotional 🥹😂

[@Emach76]

Wait a fucking second....I need that last minute replayed without the mic cutting out. That ain't right Hoffa

[@samsneadd]

Crooked called put hoffa kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4q2Y2Bsjb-BpK8

[@AmbassadorofSalem]

I can relate to the end. When "family" actively moves against your best interest, it's hard to call them family. It's hard to say there is beef. It just is what it is you gonna use your position like that and not acknowledge it? You can't have that position anymore....and it's no hatred about it. Why I don't fuck with my family....if they owned it? It would be all love and forgiveness. They not self righteously justifying that shit again though.....nope

[@fespn4734]

Math gave a good point at the end

[@juliussmith5866]

Royce Talking In Circles 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@TravDot313]

It feels like they aren't listening fr. Royce said a bunch of times things are open to be being reconciled and just explained his position and perspective. It's almost like if they don't hear Slaughterhouse is back they think the door is closed.

[@Kiki-xx3fj]

I’m still tryin to figure out how what Crook and Joell did was more of a betrayal than what Joe did. What happened with Crook and Joell was/is easily fixable. What Joe did was prevent the entire group from being able to put out another project on Shady. Now that they went through the hassle and money of getting off the label they can do whatever they want… but they are the only ones standing in their own way

[@TheBadnewz56]

U cant make a nigga rap

[@TheExcelllence]

Joe has said on record that he was willing to rap again if the business was right, the business being wrong on Shady is why everything fell apart so there wasn't going to be another project on Shady anyway. They somehow get the IP back from Shady and Joell and Crook release music that damages the brand because Joe didn't want to rap because again the business wasn't right with this new deal. If Joe was in the way because of business Joell and Crook made it worse with the project they released. It's still fixable with time but will it even be worth it by then.

[@akaspon1]

@@TheExcelllence That is not true. Joe said he would not rap on Shady, but when they got off Shady he would not rap. They were supposed to meet up to discuss rapping again and Joe did not show up. Royce and Crook recorded music independently at Heaven studios that Royce previewed which was an attempt to get Joe to rap. Lastly Joe did not want to do the deal with Crook but per Crook wouldn’t say what he did not like about the deal. None of those actions look like a guy willing to rap and hasn’t rapped in over a decade. So I am not sure why you keep falling for that narrative.

[@vontreherumaiBH]

@@akaspon1 they just got off shady this year, Joe supposed to immediately start rapping? Lol like cmon they grown . Got other businesses! Joe said he was gonna rap multiple times on his podcast! I watch damn near all his podcasts .

[@akaspon1]

@@vontreherumaiBH They acquired the rights to the brand and the music and got off the label in 2021. How long were they all supposed to wait? Before that it had been over a decade. Come on man, Joe wasn’t and is never going to be a rapper again. Let’s have this conversation again 5 years from now

[@Koolhand85]

11:50. Math kept it REAL. 🚨

[@dadgerm]

Royce had no intention to continue with a group , just the way he speaks demonstrate that he his beyond that like Joe. The group was just an opportunity. If Em never gave him a stage, shit would be different

[@eswift3160]

🎯🎯💯💯💯

[@1937Mk]

yall so funny man , yall be talking like yall know everything , if he didnt wanna continue in the group then why would he bother to take it off shady and risk his relationship with eminem and paul , stop talking like yall know them personally

[@mrplaytime3326]

If he didn’t have EM he would be more humble 50yr old back pack rapper

[@richt.422]

I disagree I believe he had alot of love for Slaughterhouse. They made him sharp lyrically he needed that energy

[@1937Mk]

@@mrplaytime3326 probably the same thing with eminem if he didn't have dr dre

[@marissawilliams8002]

Esso be having some nice joggers on 👀 OAN: Good interview!!!!!!

[@JEFE310]

It's been 10 years. It been over with and Joe doesn't need rap. Keep it a bean.

[@lecurymccray5804]

These dudes trying to play Crook and Joel…

[@eswift3160]

Yea that's what it seems like... he did a whole bunch of talking and said nuffin 😂🤦🏽‍♂️

[@TheHiphop98]

@@eswift3160 it's that way on both sides but one thing that don't make sense at all is just because you bring a deal I don't care what the language is if someone doesn't sign it we don't have a group that logic makes no sense

[@TheHiphop98]

U think the lox will break up because styles n sheek like too be indy hell nooooo fuck was they rushing for it's not like we was rushing them we didn't even know this shit was happening

[@samsneadd]

Crooked and Joell response to that kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4q2Y2Bsjb-BpK8

[@lecurymccray5804]

@@TheHiphop98 If we haven’t made music in 10 years, when we all can really rap, made other individual projects and you got to beg a nigga to rap then the shit over with. The part you are leaving out about the Lox is they are really friends who grow up together in life and music. Slaughter House didn’t. The two dudes( Royce and Joe) who fall out with everyone are surprised crook and Joel want to move on because they don’t want to rap. Joe not rapping no more he finally getting money from podding and Royce finally getting the attention in his 40s he wasn’t getting in his 20s and 30s. They went Hollywood.

[@thehoodsmokerspotcast]

Dope podcast much luv my homeboys royce and lil bro vicious! Detroit hip hop is 💪

[@DeathsInverse]

You gotta get crook and joel up here now bro

[@KingJaames]

Respect and communication seem to be the big theme

[@Maz_Mitch]

Royce mad emotional. Bro really be in his feelings

[@Parialated]

The only real question everyone needs answered, why is royce hiding his mouth one way or another??

[@dilemmabeats4917]

The whole damn interview.

[@julz4568]

Not making a joke but he got herpes or something? Strange

[@victorkenarsy3024]

@@julz4568 then he could have not showed up

[@jsax1978]

Unfortunately Royce is a recovering addict. He is on a show where the hosts and guests drink on every episode so it may be his way of coping and fighting temptation. Sometimes addicts replace one thing with another so the straw may be helping him to fight his demons.

[@Parialated]

@@jsax1978 fair point...but if this how he is coping he has a long way to go...I feel maybe he have dentures or something, I know that feeling of hiding my mouth because I dont want people to see im missing teeth

[@lifeisgreat4220]

This issue had been settled but after this…. It’s going to get ugly. It’s sad that it’s playing out this 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@_allcap]

All this is crazy.. Joe is the reason for the group falling apart

[@amazingfabs]

This always happens with groups, at some point the money is never enough for everybody. Not many groups have navigated the landmines of the industry.

[@magnifiquetechnique7609]

M.O.P and L.O.X are the only exceptions I know of. Must be something about acronym named groups. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@richt.422]

@@magnifiquetechnique7609 yea but the difference is Slaughterhouse is a made up group from 4 different sides of the world. Detroit, LA, NY and NJ as opposed to M.O.P and L.O.X were already homeboys from the beginning

[@SnakeyD8468]

Wu tang?

[@onehitterquitter2130]

Royce only hears what he wants to hear.

[@erickescott3867]

Any member of the group could had pushed their stock in the group. They could had found new member's to replace the original member(s), and still be part of the New Slaughter house brand as Main Executive Producer of the project(s)& merchandise the New Slaughter House group would had put out, without sacrificing the brand that was already established.

[@JaeSproo]

2:25 Time Stamp I just learned how to use this phrase last year.....but *Royce is straight GAS LIGHTING ⛽ right here* with the "I LIKE MONEY, I COULD USE $200K TOO". He (DID NOT LIKE) the deal...and he seems not to like it because it came from Crooked I and Joe Budden seems to like Crooked even LESS than Royce. That's all there really is to this. Royce and Joe see the other two as less than themselves. No need to ACT LIKE YOU WOULDA CONSIDERED IT, Royce. My god, if you *showed this same energy to Lupe Fiasco and Mickey Factz?* .....we woulda gotta response to possibly ONE OF THEIR DISS SONGS!

[@skilllzhdxxskilllzhdxx2080]

LupEmpire F-N-F productionz !!!

[@roemellohill79]

Slaughter house should be a label

[@simpdown1404]

Esso cookin them up on the paper talk lol

[@dfwherbie8814]

I’m glad Math mad the last point

[@greatnezz10]

Sorry but Joes antics prove what he is and how people view him

[@williamgouch6240]

Joe is arrogant asf 😂

[@NoahJeterJones]

Yes Joe fuck up the chemistry with the podcast I'm so mad at him I believe all his bullshit and then he turned into the ppl he hated his whole rap career

[@alpizzle2963]

Royce kinda said that without saying it. Read the title lol

[@thembadlamini5804]

10 Months later and I gotta say, I'm glad Crooked and Joel walked away, this dude here is full of nonsense

[@williamdaniels4013]

HATE HIM OR LOVE HIM, ROYCE IS INTELLIGENT-AZ-FUCK!!! ✊️👏🤝

[@scottbabien4395]

Joelle and crook need money but royce and Joe are the ones hung up on it. Some of it should be about making music

[@mcprofound717]

They should've taken Esso's chair / mic & gave them to Kino.

[@jackpot1247]

Yall say money just 1 moe muthahh suckin time!!!! (IN PINKYS VOICE!!) 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Vintage27]

E$$O, bro.... You doing the most

[@reylopez8433]

Andre 3000 funky ass clothes wasn't marketing, that's was when he switched his faith to Baduizm.

[@fardeenr.168]

Crook, Joell, Lupe and Mickey - Slaughterhouse 2.0

[@2212ronc]

Dude in the background looks like R.Kelly 👀😂🤣

[@kendricjonrs8581]

4:38 All Respect Due, We know what we know, and you did articulate (shrapnel) correctly that doesn't mean I don't point out what you said incorrectly.

[@OmarScruggs]

I never heard any of Slaughterhouse music. Honest responses....is it that good?

[@fairplayterrific147]

One Thing Is Certain ES$O Is About That Money!😄

[@Westnile8501]

Joel Don't shoot the messenger Bro we all Slaughterhouse fans and this some good content 💯💯💯

[@hectorsarti4398]

Talk it out Royce, don’t let Joe take you down because he doesn’t want to rap bro. The return of Slaughterhouse would be crazy.

[@iamdanielrobles]

The difference between the situations what is Royce did them wrong in D12 and started beefing. Royce got did wrong by crook and Joel and it’s still very fresh

[@amaurysu3190]

Royce is wrong, for.choosing 1 over 2 in a group of 4 he chose to be with a minority for siding with one as if its 2 even and excuse for 4 to do nothing. Ummm what about the competition love for the game the word play or even putting out new shit ?

[@griand21]

Joe is easy to paint as a diva bc he is one lol