MATHMECH - Ten Minute Testing

[@ChaoticMeatballTV]

Hope and pray that small clip of Can You Feel My Heart doesn't get you demonetized lol

[@Dunker401]

It’s under 10 seconds so it should be fine (me huffing the briggest amount of copium)

[@thomashollingshead015]

It’s KZbin, so I wouldn’t be surprised.

[@PaRaNiki_]

You recognized the song, so will the algorithm. R.I.P. monetization.

[@pkkiller_apathy4568]

@@PaRaNiki_ it's truly sad because music companies would make more money if they didn't enforce the copyright claims.

[@PaRaNiki_]

@@pkkiller_apathy4568 I wish KZbin/Google would just use the licensing model TikTok has.

[@ODDiSEE_]

It's crazy how the two xyz cards switched values completely since launch.

[@alfredwestman1097]

Agree

[@herropreeze804]

Final smegma didn't even come out once. Expect to be cancelled by the Mathemchticians Mr. MBT

[@gestaltduck39486]

saw a Mathmech video, was happy. See it gets turned into yet another accesscode talker turbo, was no longer happy.

[@thiccupcake]

so chad he doest have to be summoned in order to win

[@einname220]

@@thiccupcake 👏🏼🧐

[@CrnaStrela]

He probably could've won on 12:02 if he summoned final sigma instead

[@milesandrews6711]

@@CrnaStrela no, all the tear bosses can crash into sigma

[@Raminator243]

Pitknight Earlie is another cool tech that you can fit into the extra deck as an extra negate to add to the endboard. You usually put Pitknight under a link 2 like Cyberse Wicckid and then have it point to an IP Masquerena so you can fire the IP to trigger the Pit whenever you want.

[@JoveGar]

Notably, ending Wicckid and Pitknight Earlie also plays better around Super Poly which is slated to be insane this format with the new target, Garura. Wicckid/IP are both dark and cyberse for it and you can play around that by making Earlie which is fire

[@neckdotjpeg]

thank you!!!! I've been loving it in the deck. circular and any extender can end on splash in EMZ pointing to pitknight, then IP in pit's right zone. this way you can freely trigger the pit by activating IP whenever you'd like. very underrated card

[@BigD321]

Thats actually really cool

[@joshrosen901]

This seems good, but I'm curious, what would you take/switch out from the list?

[@JinTrixx5291]

@@joshrosen901 thats the hitter. Really speaking the only options are update jammer or linguriboh. However update Jammer makes for stupidly easy accesscode otks very consistently, and linguriboh is great for procking wickid, can be a life saver in bricky hands, and is useful against trap heavy decks you might encounter. Personally I'd hold off on Earlie until we see how the meta pans out, its not worth losing either of them because youre scared of Super Poly that may or may not even get played that much.

[@Bladerunner-sn7tv]

I have been waiting for him to make this tmt, since the announcement of the legacy support, but to think it would end up becoming such a boon to the archetype, I really hope it becomes a true contender for top deck following the falloff of spright and tearalament.

[@nictay6180]

I remember when mystic fighters was released and people brought the new decks to the next ycs, there was that one feature match where final sigma got clowned on by a utopia the lighting. Swift 2-0

[@DarkDesperado25]

Had to know this was coming. Hopefully the power of math can keep the format somewhat interesting.

[@olliezoop]

I really enjoy how much this deck feels like playing cyberse-flavored tri-brigade, it's really nice that we're getting a semi-midrange format, even if it's gonna be pretty 2-deck

[@yellownotmellow]

that earth golem @ignister really caught me off-guard

[@yugiohparadox]

Thanks for showing off the deck, MBT! BTW, for those watching, I'm the original pilot of this list in the CSM, so feel free to ask some questions about it to me. :) Will note, though, a couple of misplays in the games you showed, most major one being the last game when you could have normal summoned Sigma, then extender, then Alembertian, then search for Circular and dump the Diameter. With that, you get back to the same endboard as if you opened Circular.

[@dhanyl2725]

Why 2 super factorials? Using only 1 makes the deck 40... Also as mbt noted in the end, it's not that good against one of the only 2 meta decks

[@yugiohparadox]

@@dhanyl2725 adding only 1 card above the normal 40 doesn't actually impact consistency that much. Plus, it helps to bury cards that I don't want to draw. Plus, for CSM, having access to 2 Superfactorial did quite help me out. You can easily cut out one out though and the deck is plenty playable. While the deck does suffer from a worse Tear matchup, I believe it compensates for being good against Spright though being able to out their initial normal summon, their extenders in hand amd having enough follow-up to win the next turn. Plus, given Spright will likely be more repped than Tears, I will be better off more often than not.

[@abyssalpetrichor1996]

Can mathmech glue together with Mekk-Knights well? I kinda want to try since standard cyberse monsters like gadget, balancer, iblee seem to work well from my testing.

[@yugiohparadox]

@@abyssalpetrichor1996 There a couple of Cyberse locks, like Sigma only allowing you to summon Cyberse monsters from the ED, so keep those in mind. Also, when you're choosing Cyberse cards to use for Mekk-Knights, just make sure you can balance out the locks that plenty of cards have and know how how to sequence your plays correctly. Plus, when you're adding the Circular engine into other decks, it does come up the issue of introducing bricks to your deck that may not be desirable, like opening only Sigma or Superfactorial.

[@traderunneredvardo6032]

Are you planning on testing the Mathmech engine in an @Ignister deck?

[@zurajanaisephirothda3886]

Just a small heads up: you can save a lot of special summons by just sacking a mathmech extender with nabla and going for the multiplication + nabla into final Sigma play. Especially in Masterduel with Maxx C legal, this saves a lot of potential enemy handdraws

[@kyuuketsukikun420]

Or you could just take the challenge

[@TheForeverRanger]

That Monarch deck is kind of genius and could work if they can pull off the combo.

[@davidkiller61]

Said every deck owner ever

[@Rairiky]

I love the idea so much, doesn't give the deck linear combos but at least you have back up plans when you brick lol

[@Raminator243]

I was actually comparing lists with that guy earlier today. His build is pretty interesting

[@JudojugsVtuber]

I've been spending legitimate years trying to make a monarch deck that doesn't brick every game but also has a ceiling high enough to contend with modern decks without "blos pass". You can get decently close with Mega Zaborg turbo strategies but the bricks continue. Hope my favorite deck gets some half decent legacy support soon.

[@divinityblack5467]

@@Raminator243 Fruity

[@kayfenix7596]

Man this deck is just a God send, like i might love Tearlament but this deck is sooooooooooooooo based.

[@duelperfect]

So, Mathmech is basically the Constellar of the dragon ruler format. A cheap alternative that can compete with them. Also, unlike Evilswarm, it had a decent matchup against rogue strategies

[@StarfieldDisarray]

Constellar was also a gigachad deck

[@alucardygo4239]

I still can't believe how much Matchmech circular has done for this deck. What an amazing card; take the deck from a fun deck to a rogue threat. Well done Konami tbh lol

[@KozmicHand]

Circular + any math extender can get you floodgate & super factorial 1- circular dump sigma to special summon itself 2- special summon Sigma 3- circular triggers adding super factorial 4- special summon Mathmech addition/subtraction by targeting circular or sigma 5 - link summon into devotee and disciple using circular and math extender (not sigma) and also trigger disciple effect to draw with devotee making 2 tokens 6- link disciple and 1 token into wicckid and link the last token into a link 1 triggering wicckid to banish and search Mathmech diameter(do not banish math mechs in gy) 7- link into splash mage using wicckid and link 1 then use splash mage effect to revive Mathmech in gy 8- normal summon diameter and using effect to revive another Mathmech in gy You now have 4 mathmechs 9 overlay 4 mathmechs on field to make alembertian and search any S/T from your deck 10 use alembertian to tribute splash mage to revive any Mathmech in gy, make i:p masquerana End- you now turned 2 mathmechs at the start of your turn into 1 ip, 1 floodgate, 1 superfactorial (trishula + Omni negate)

[@Skrantzy16]

You only need circular to search a floodgate but you don’t get superfactorial search

[@saif19845]

@@Skrantzy16 yes you do read circular

[@Skrantzy16]

@@saif19845 I am saying you can do a similar combo only using circular by searching equation instead of the super factorial. Step four/five uses circular and equation to reborn the circular to link summon disciple devotee. So instead of searching superfactorial you search equation

[@mcfluffikinz7365]

@@saif19845 They are saying there's a combo with circular alone, but it requires you to search Mathmech Equation off of Circular instead of Superfactorial.

[@thesnarkybadger]

@@Skrantzy16 Unless I am missing something that does not work, you still need an extra level 4 in rotation to get the search off of Alembertian. It can be any level 4 extender but with just circular you can only guarantee 3 level 4s. If you are lucky maybe you may draw it off the link disciple though.

[@anonjohn9760]

Ah yes, the unga bunga deck that has become big brained beatdown. Truly, a most mathematical evolution!

[@deadaccount2968]

What better use of math than to make big number.

[@mayayamato7351]

the super poly into the earth ignister is the funniest counter i've ever seen in my life.

[@Yudaisei0]

8:58 should of just made Final Sigma and win the duel, the combo into Accesscode was unnecessary.

[@skarloey1214]

I always forget you can put extra deck Monsters in the side deck

[@AZ-rl7pg]

That duel vs meta would have been an easy sweep if you just trusted in the Mathmechs and made Final Sigma using Nebula and Multiplication for a double attacking 6K towers that inflicts double battle damage but instead insisted on using them for Accesscode Talker turbo.

[@ODDiSEE_]

I don't think mbt has looked up mathmech cards prices as of late.

[@patrickconnolly6552]

Most of them are crazy cheap. Most of what you need is around $1-5 American dollars. The only thing that’s a bit pricey is Superfactorial

[@robertlunderwood]

There's a couple of these where I would've just went into a 6000 atk Final Sigma and been done with it.

[@eu4um]

I'm so excited to play this deck in the current format. It can even play around things like "And the band played on" by just going for link plays. The only problem is the Tear matchup, but you just gotta side for it right

[@benjaminbrand3714]

Went ahead and ordered this deck in paper with a few small changes! I cut the Disciple in the extra deck and added a Topologic Zeroboros both as a way to completely clear a board after using Dark Ruler no More and as another option to summon off of I:P if your opponent is playing a control deck

[@ScarHydreigon87]

Can we just acknowledge how fast yet clear MBT is able to speak? I could only only dream of being able to talk like that

[@kyuuketsukikun420]

Not only that but he does it with the scuffed YGO card names

[@nanchoparty]

Never in my years did I think MBT would do a TMT on the deck I begged him to cover AND ALSO FOLLOW UP ON IT LATER! 🥳

[@Link_Bird]

Now here's a deck that I might pick up this format

[@sleep8908]

Surprised heatsoul wasn't in the list. By playing more handtraps you can turn every draw it gives into an additional follow-up or disruption

[@brandonvanderhoff5678]

Wicckid provides the same benefit by letting you add a card every turn and often times you can't make heatsoul due to the link devotee lock anyway. After turn one there are just better things to go into with your link material.

[@danielhertz1984]

@@brandonvanderhoff5678 the heatsoul version does make wicckid and the end board you add a pitearly knight or a masquarena plus linguriboh plust he trap at the cost of the devotee line but the payoff is multiple handtraps in hand plus resouce for next turn

[@sirernest546]

Yeah i find heatsoul really good, honestly better than the devotee line

[@yugiohparadox]

Sorry, but I've got to disagree. Mathmech players have already done the math and Heatsoul only becomes better than IP if you're running at least 16 handtraps, in order to effectively guarantee at least 1 handtrap drawn. In addition, in this format where only specific targeted handtraps have any effect against the meta, the value of those random draws from Heatsoul decrease. May as well search for specific cards that help with follow-up and IP into cards that force the opponent into plays that allow you to survive.

[@danielhertz1984]

@@yugiohparadox well as I said you can play IP with heatsoul and you already got resource for next turn with wicckid, but yeah handtraps is not that great in this format and the devotee line guarantee your first turn board, maybe next format it will be the better version of the deck, until nibiru comes into play again both version of this deck will be viable

[@Tokumastu1]

Sigma mindset vs meta slave mind set. Man that Tearalament match was fire.

[@nyalter5511]

im ngl, all i saw in the best of 3 was "you can win if you open 2-3 hand traps every single game and the opponent draws none and their hand is mid"

[@blueeyesgreekdragon]

MBT gotta be a rap god for how fast he explained that match

[@yamikagevg7841]

Forbidden droplets usually better than DRNM imo because you want to go for that otk.

[@lankeysob]

Two of the top rated Mathmech players online play book of eclipse instead

[@yamikagevg7841]

@@lankeysob Thats interesting. Well I love how Droplets work for me. Usually you can revive what you send with Diameter, Alembertian or Equation too. And you can get the gy effect of Multiplication if you draw it, without having to summon it.

[@lankeysob]

@@yamikagevg7841 Yeah droplet is great if you open with some cards you want to get in the GY anyways. Eclipse is nice as it flips everything face down but links. Against Spright can flip their problemmatic cards face down and then just make final sigma and attack over elf for game. You can also use on your own cards to dodge droplet making opponent waste atleast 2 cards. If you used on your laplacian or alembertian they still trigger in end phase as well when they flip back up.

[@1001011011010]

@@lankeysob Isn't the point of DRNM/Droplet that they work through a board of negates? Eclipse can just get negated.

[@jamesragsdale]

All I heard when you punched with that 10k access was one giant “ORA” from Jotaro

[@Coyotebriggs]

HELL YEA, I've been playing this deck online since circular was released in the ocg and it's been a solid contender, you don't have to rely on luck past your draws, and it's laughably easy to Jammer into Transcode and Accesscode.

[@irisobserving]

I cannot put my finger on why but Joe looks like he's sped up in the deck introduction. He looks like he's zooming between keyframes. Like one of those "[x] players explaining why [y]" memes. It's kind of incredible honestly

[@stewrat0420]

another con of this deck is that super factorial becomes completely invalidated by the ishizu cards (ones that can shuffle cards from grave back to the deck) when they come out.

[@Jack38601]

15:47 "If they send enough tears, they can cry their way to victory"

[@maxinator2869]

The starting meme is so wonderful though.👌

[@iaitoconlai1658]

I picked up Mathmech playing Master Duel, now I want to play TCG just to use Circular.

[@randomshit6539]

Shoutout to the guy studying math in uni who tried to convince me "Nabla" is not a real thing. Now I'm studying math and know what it does.

[@mk30b25]

Accesscode talker welcome to the over 10,000 club.

[@lordyubel9845]

I always wanted to play this deck because i knew it was underrated , now everyone might be playing it because just because

[@Ir0nRon1n]

To defeat konami's latest power creep cash grab format, you either need the power of mathematics(mathmech) or literacy(DDD). Sadly, most yugioh players can't read, so final sugma it is.

[@KingVerus]

DDD? How does ddd handle tearlament and splight?

[@NeviTheLettyFan]

This is really cool, the way it played against meta decks was nice

[@13tiffin]

Did not expect Bring me at the start of an MBT video

[@Exisist5151]

Never will not be upset at how he pronounces Laplacian

[@Blackguy610]

This has to be one of the best intro to video ever

[@NyanFF]

episodes likes this make me wonder if joseph actually never heard "nabla" pronounced before or if it's just a bit (in case you are wondering, but a's are pronounced as in apple)

[@dvsavocs5290]

vs tear you're supposed to go alembertian 3 materials, detach them and get skull meister

[@alexher7283]

I think it’d be cool to play parallel exceed and a floodgate since you can search any spell/trap with circular and an extender

[@Skrantzy16]

You only need circular to search a floodgate but you lose the superfactorial search

[@alexher7283]

@@Skrantzy16 having the 1 equation in the deck is so important for that reason

[@mcfluffikinz7365]

The floodgate search game plan really only comes into play games 2&3 after you know which specific floodgate hurts your opponent the most so you can board into it

[@alexher7283]

@@mcfluffikinz7365 just main deck summon limit lol. That card is busted and back row decks are only rogue now

[@Q67-m7z]

@@alexher7283 and how are you playing under that floodgate?

[@XLatMaths]

Why is nobody using Avramax? I:P Avramax is basically a Towers for some decks. Also, nice to see some Maths representation!

[@lankeysob]

I use Avramax instead of Arrival in my deck currently. Haven’t tested both enough yet though to determine which is better

[@brandonsingleton4170]

Would have made more sense if Mathmech were heavily involved with Synchro where you actually need to know quick maths 😂

[@MonosEx]

D.D Crow was the mvp of the whole show ngl

[@theazuredemon4854]

Not gonna lie, I'm kinda expecting MBT to do a Ten Minute Testing of a Modern Goat Control to see how badly it warps the Meta... complete with Scapegoat, Scapeghost, DAD, BLS, Accesscode, and Shuraig...

[@kyuuketsukikun420]

I think the lighting is a bit too strong. Maybe aim the light at the ceiling so it bounces of the ceiling for a more defused, soft lighting

[@derohneleben8205]

Never ash the tearlaments field spell...

[@shawnjavery]

Could have ended on the standard board if you normal summoned sigma made alembertian searched circular sent nabla summoned sigma back added super fact, summoned nabla from alembertian then summoned diameter off of nabla.

[@Pattex_]

super factorial is like if tribrigade revolt had a chad brother

[@PheonyxPhyre73]

I’m curious why dark ruler instead of droplet? Wouldn’t droplet be better for a deck that otk’s so well considering it both lowers attack and also allows you to do damage unlike dark ruler?

[@Ir0nRon1n]

The resource cost of droplet is likely why. Breaking a board going second and setting up like it's turn 1 is the new strategy going forward. Almost every deck that can effectively do that is trying to post-POTE.

[@PorcupineRitual]

Ruler is better cus you can keep your resources and the only good send is sigma which most decklists are only playing 2 of

[@lankeysob]

A few of us are playing book of eclipse instead of drnm or droplet. Might be the better option as it allows you to still otk whilst shutting down their board.

[@PorcupineRitual]

@@lankeysob hadn’t thought of that and it sounds interesting especially vs tear. Main deck sounds iffy imo cus doesn’t sound too good vs spright cus they can play around it

[@surehit2496]

Ok so if you want to COPIUM this in Master Duel you can run Balancer Lord, it's an normal summon "extender" that Specials the card you added from Whitekid since you've banished it. Happy to see Calculus paying off, now Konami, give us the Integral Mathmech and the Derivate Mathmech so i can be happy.

[@weis2098]

Integral is either rank-up xyz or accel synchro, and derivate is idk rank down xyz or something.

[@surehit2496]

@@weis2098 considering how these math things work, I would say integral could help setting up a rank 8 boss that could be the Cube root function while the derivative could increase or decrease more the attack of a monster on the field with different stats from their original atk/Def to go with Addition and Subtraction.

[@METAK188]

You really should go on one of those spelling tournaments. :D

[@frankwest5388]

I think the new Mathmech can, with Sigma, be used as a very splashable engine to make Splash Magician and then Heatsoul, which then draws 2. This might be the next evolution of Dogmatika or slower deck that doesn’t care about the E-deck.

[@No_Plays_Hand_Empty]

That's actually really cool! Might splash it in my Zefras, free link zones and extra cards is always appreciated

[@frankwest5388]

@@No_Plays_Hand_Empty Thats what I thought as well, but there is a problem with that. Sigma's revive locks you into Cyberse, meaning you can't pend your Zefranui from the extra deck. The way around this is to pend summon first and only make the Heatsoul line, once you are done with the Extra deck

[@No_Plays_Hand_Empty]

​@@frankwest5388 ah dammit i knew there'd be a catch. Might still be workable tbh, do your niu -> crocodragon play and then just do the mathmech one

[@frankwest5388]

@@No_Plays_Hand_Empty I was thinking more something along Endimion decks for pendulum strats. Less relyable on the ED but no Divine Strike search in return

[@No_Plays_Hand_Empty]

@@frankwest5388 could work, i'm just a zefra main so they were my first thought lol

[@Spyko-]

that last game was crazy

[@ryanorland5389]

The 1 veiler feels weird to me, especially with a 41 card deck. Any reason in particular having a singleton hand trap is important enough to go over 40? Am I missing something? It’s not like he’s playing Crossout

[@yugiohparadox]

Mainly to act as a Small World bridge, plus adding 1 more card doesn't ruin consistency by any large extent along with helping to bury cards I didn't want to draw.

[@braiscarreira7565]

Gigachad math Edit: PLEASE summon final sigma i know accescode is better most of the time but final sigma is SO BASED.

[@hockeycrafter6086]

that multiply on acsesscode is nut material

[@ConnorLockhartYGO]

Two plus two is four, minus one that's three, quick math(mech)s.

[@GodzillaFreak]

I'm more interested in the monarch list tbh

[@SoniChris98]

Imagine how much worse the archetype would be if the effects... require you to do math.

[@darklombax2580]

As a mathemek player I will say yes we do click any button that shows up

[@wilton1990]

But can you make a full Charmer deck work?... God I want those cards to work, they've been my lucky cards for the longest time, back when they had "and this is how you do piercing damage" explanations.

[@tbaggins5349]

Circular is obscenely busted

[@killerfox9674]

MATHMECH is BASED BASED BASED BASED. I want to be a Simga male like all the Mathmech players out there.

[@sinanisikdemir3363]

I played against this one mathmech player and I was like oh that’s based. Then he used fucking Kaiser colosseum

[@yamikagevg7841]

@@sinanisikdemir3363 We dont recognise this guy as a member of the (Final) Sigma Male Club

[@maxh7085]

How much copium are you on? Monarch players: yes.

[@TheRamblemanWhoSings]

thank god this deck isn't actual maths, we all know we can't read let alone do more than basic addition

[@dannyeleternity7390]

Do a build of Mathmech with the true math card: Linear. Equation. Cannon.

[@diehardfreak1]

Sad days when circular isn’t in MD yet

[@In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock.]

Wake me up when there's a METHmech

[@manynukes11]

ACCESS INTEGRATION

[@zamerak3600]

A 2 deck format with at least 6 tier one decks

[@vo1ce147]

Well the intro predicted what happened in the video one shoot 10k into the face

[@blazeseraz8330]

This also gets a place in basically every other cyberse deck! @ignister mathmech had some success in the ocg during spright format

[@Meme-pg5tw]

Yknow i big bonk might be the deck for me Other than sky striker Also it being cheap is making me interested

[@IC-23]

The fact that Linear Equation Cannon isn't used in mathmechs is why the deck isn't tier 0 Wake up sheeple.

[@jacobjensen7704]

Joseph, no AP exam covers the D'Alembertian, or Laplacian, or a super factorial, differential equations is a bit too advanced for high school. Astrophysics major here proving how much of a nerd he is.

[@CelticDuelist]

that bmth intro

[@LaserAgentRyan]

I use the geo math mech final sigma after I wipe the board with my ultimate conductor tyranno

[@literallygrass1328]

Doing maths make me feel alive

[@tossthegoats4280]

You say this deck is cheap, but now that you've bumped it I expect it to skyrocket and still not be meta changing ahahaha

[@Ragnarok540]

Is MBT that influential in the world of Yu-Gi-Oh?

[@Andy_ARBS]

@@Ragnarok540 He helped make synchrons pricy.

[@TallerVision]

Mathmech my beloved

[@TuxedoCrab]

Surprised to see only one Nabla and no heatsoul

[@Rairiky]

Hilariously exo should totally kill this deck,still being testing salads with circular and the card is just batshit I love it

[@slashersoul2380]

Imagine pronouncing laplace like laplayschin. Its not like laplace has a propper pronounciation since the name exists since forever. Nono that cant be it

[@Leon-yg5gm]

handtraps good

[@toni98MK]

It really did look not half bad

[@Grayewick]

Negate the monster made specifically with Diameter HMMMMM

[@biggstarr]

Why play foolish burial if you only have 2 sigma? sigma effect in graveyard is exactly same as hand right? so foolish burial is just a third copy of sigma then, am i missing something?

[@_Rj-]

Master Dual

[@r3zaful]

Ignister ycs yokohama please, a mad man literally took it to 3rd place at ycs yokohama searching vanity.