Matt Gourley: S'mores Are The Next Culture War | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

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[@davidhurtado2725]

THIS is why we need full video episodes. That face Sona gave to the Eduardo when she found out he tipped the balance against the S'mores is not to be perceived in just audio 😂

[@GokulOnFire]

Conan & Gourley may have a point but their ridiculous analogies made Sona's points shine. Conan & Gourley were doing asinine Hollywood philanthropy pretending to be smart and took it way over the top.

[@TheRedGameboy]

I 1000% agree. That stink eye was so funny and endearing. Eduardo is dead to me.

[@jrpipik]

Matt's line about the hot tub went unnoticed.

[@cleverusername9369]

I noticed it and I loved his lascivious tone of voice

[@Frank.E.Valley]

I think that was a tacit agreement that of course they'll be in a hot tub next time.

[@TheJohnny928]

Don't Caddyshack the tub😂

[@jessicamessicak]

I love his under the radar lines

[@christophertownsend3820]

Oh they noticed AND reacted to his hottub comment. Matt just edited out the 10 minutes of banter about Matt's tubby time suggestion. "Matt Rub Time Machine"

[@ricopaulson1]

Loved Liza's ad-read for solo stove on her wonderful podcast Significant Others. In the ad-read she says her husband is always hogging the solo stove to roast marshmallows. Knowing full well Conan's disdain for such things. Clearly it's a scripted ad-read but knowing how untrue it was is hilarious.

[@christopherpaul7588]

I think there's something about camping that changes your taste buds. I'm a coffee lover but I never drink instant coffee. But when I've been camping and had some instant coffee it tastes so good!

[@remnant24]

That's called being high. Or drunk, I suppose. Also explains why Sona likes S'mores so much.

[@christopherpaul7588]

@@remnant24 No I think it's just camping puts you in a different state of mind. I wasn't high or drunk just after waking up and having a cup of instant coffee. But yeah, it helps to be high to appreciate s'mores.

[@flyingchong]

@@christopherpaul7588 Idk why it's assumed people are always drunk or high on camping trips lolz.

[@vleaky3430]

I think our caveman brain activates and we appreciate all we get lol

[@FNHot]

You can improve on the smore, and still make it on the campfire. I make smore pie in the woods, grab a pan, crumble Graham crackers and ghee and mold into shape for the crust, place baby marshmallows, cover with chocolate, then place a larger pan over it, place over glowing camp fire coals, and place coals on top as well to heat from both sides. Wait about 3-4 minutes, uncover, cut and serve. It's melty, cooked to perfection Campfire Smores Pie.

[@Tommyr]

"In the hot tub". I caught that Matt. Matt rules!

[@surfsexsea]

Just bought s’more supplies for tonight’s bonfire and this showed up.

[@cosmokane9871]

S'mores are basically like chomping on a roof shingle -Conan O'Brien

[@ShelbyZealand]

S'mores are DELICIOUS. It's not the s'mores' fault that you source crappy ingredients, Conan!

[@benzaiten933]

I think most people don't like the s'mores by itself, the food item, but rather fun time they had around the fire while eating them. just like Conan said, they loved being part of a group of friend having a great time during a warm summer (or winter) night and s'mores was just what they ate. had they been roasting chestnuts over the fire or grilled sausages they'd have the same fond memories of those food items.

[@pauldzim]

A group of friend? Only 1 friend? I feel so sorry for you 🥺

[@tim72]

I’ve always felt it was more about making the perfect golden brown marshmallow and not necessarily the end product. It’s still good, but it’s better to feel like you made it yourself (this coming from someone who isn’t patient enough to bake or cook much).

[@BLT001]

Holy cow, the LOOK Sona throws Eduardo at 0:35!

[@CheeseBallsNBeanDip]

I am 100% with Sona. S'mores are wonderful!! Especially with peanut butter cups or dark chocolate!

[@danbach7748]

I hope Conan appreciates how the people who work for him do not just toady up to him and say things they think he wants to hear. A lot of other creators could have done so much better if their employees felt they could speak their minds. That said, he's completely correct about s'mores. They are too sweet, and they are a nightmare to eat while trying to keep clean (not many camp sites have running water to wash up with after). You're just left with a sticky mess out in the middle of the woods.

[@tim72]

Honestly, s’mores are not even that great, it’s just the fact that you make them that’s cool. As a kid it’s just a super sugary heart attack so it’s good, but as you get older it becomes more about making the perfect marshmallow (for me at least). Getting that perfect golden brown crisp around the outside with a nice and melty inside, it’s just great. Plus you get an okay snack at the end.

[@nomisukeindustries]

S'mores are a wonderful treat for kids. They are fun to make and sweet. Every child I know loves S'mores, so we make them for the children. Adults with a child's heart also love them. Conan hates them because his heart is shriveled and old like a dried up canned ham.

[@inappropriate_comments]

😄😄

[@AMPdphoto]

Honestly sounds like he makes them with crap ingredients hahaha Conan, Ill make you some S’mores you love! FRESH graham crackers, high quality milk chocolate (big chunks that you place by the fire to warm up, or chuck in the microwave to soften), Slow roasted marshmallow-THE KEY IS: wrap the melty marshmallow with your tongs/stick around the milk chocolate part to keep the melted chocolate in.This is key. Also, wet naps!

[@stone_pilot]

I can’t believe how many simps are saying s’mores are mid. I wonder when the last time they had a s’more was? If im at home I’d rather just have brownies and ice cream since it’s easy but s’mores are always good around the bonfire

[@CarlosDesmithy]

Yes! We need more S'more War!!

[@thezx5795]

If smores are good and tied to happy moments then they can't hold it's own

[@pschroeter1]

The brought back fond memories of when we would sit around a campfire wearing shorts and roast our wieners and toast our buns.

[@rocko34]

In the uk we use chocolate digestive biscuits and it’s honestly amazing

[@Oddoboy]

Conan brings up the best point against smores

[@saga960]

S’mores are a boy scout and girls scout conspiracy, what do the supervisors do when then can’t sell all the cookies but have to come up with ideas. And thus the s’more was born. I’m making this up, also hot coco is a better pair for marshmallows.

[@franciet99]

😂😂😂

[@sicilianchiangchang7320]

😂 🥑

[@chris55top]

I love Gram crackers and chocolate. For me marshmallows are optional. So S'mores are awesome.

[@rscamp81]

Sona's looks of disdain *lmao*

[@RogueKT21]

I have never had a campfire s’more, but I have had s’more flavoured desserts that do show that this flavour mix works. I think it would be better as a pie that this nonsense you throw together at night with bugs flying around.

[@Trendyflute]

S'mores are definitely graded on a curve. You went camping, you're miles from the store, all you thought to bring was marshmallows, graham crackers, and mediocre chocolate. There's no freezer for ice cream, there's no oven for cake or brownies or cookies, and I sincerely doubt there's any baked alaskas while camping. But then you have the fun experience of getting your marshmallow as good as you can get it and judging the results of your own efforts. It's half dessert, half-work-experience.

[@mwrench4185]

I agree with Conan... Almost nobody eats smores outside of a campfire setting which tells you all you need to know. If smores were so good we would eat them all the time. It's the memory of the campfire with friends and family that we appreciate when we think about smores, not the smore itself.

[@stone_pilot]

WHAT? No no no. I’ve never heard such blasphemy. People don’t go out of their way to make dessert in general. I haven’t made brownies, cookies, cake, etc. in years. YEARS! But they’re all delicious and every once in awhile I’ll buy them. The s’more requires extra steps and you can’t buy a good s’more at the store. It also has way more specific ingredients. When do you buy graham crackers or Hershey’s chocolate except to make s’mores? I love s’mores but I’m way too lazy and I know it’s unhealthy so why bother?

[@Mikachu-ow1un]

4:44. "I am delicious". New GIF!

[@falxonPSN]

S'mores are the bad-choice one night stand of snacks. They feel like a good idea at the time, but then it's just immediate regret and melancholy.

[@grumpyoldman8293]

Maybe it is because I got the diabetes & can no longer have them, but s'mores are one of my fondest camping memories. There is something so satisfying about getting the marshmallow just the right shade of golden brown.

[@deanwinchester7179]

I'd say it's about time for some more Summer S'mores, I'm sure the weather is nice in Pasadena :)

[@flyingchong]

I'm on both sides of the argument. S'mores with marshmallows that were in an outdoor fire and brown and slightly charred are heavenly, while ones with marshmallows that were microwaved indoors are meh. Also, you could use a peg leg to roast a marshmallow.

[@BorrietheBlade]

These conversations 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JoeO.]

S’Mores in general are wholly underwhelming and too messy for their underwhelmingness. People who wore union suits probably found them to be awesome because it wasn’t squirrel soup or whatever. That said, during the days of Covid homeschool house arrest, my then first grade son and I developed “‘Rona S’Mores” which we enjoyed every Friday to celebrate another week survived. These are RITZ crackers, Nutella, Peanut Butter, and Marshmallow Fluff. To celebrate the end of that school year we turned that into a pie - RITZ crust with whipped fluff/peanut butter and whipped fluff/Nutella filling…

[@TheNova5]

S’mores are great! Melty chocolate. Gooey marshmallow. Crisp graham cracker. On its own. Disassociated from camping.

[@adamplace1414]

Given that I happily eat Graham crackers as a snack, and just as happily do the same with flaccid, raw marshmallows, I will defend the smore to the absolute death. That said, I'm fine just eating the marshmallow after it's been in the fire. Adding the Graham cracker and chocolate is just gilding the lily.

[@mattmccomas1]

Chocolate, marshmallows, and graham crackers, melted??? Delicious!!! I love you Conan, but you are dead wrong here.

[@tishw4576]

The ingredients are super easy to take camping. You can use different ingredients as well.

[@kennetho2499]

Im with Sona😀. S'mores is the Mac n cheese of campfire snack/dessert. You can't have a thanksgiving dinner without Mac n cheese..and just like Mac n cheese...it's either good or bad depending on who made it and how they made it

[@davidlang9939]

TWO OF THE GR8EST LETDOWNS IN MY LIFE: THE TASTE OF FINALLY HAVING AS A YOUNG ADULT A S'MORES AND LATER CHAMPAGNE!!! OVER-RATED AT ALL CORNERS OF REVIEW!!

[@ethernet764]

4:00 - 4:15 this is so funny to me for some reason 🤣

[@fdrstan]

Dude when is the actual HBO show coming or is that now off the table?

[@stefoehmen]

also, setting marshmallows on fire is fun lol

[@stew3216]

Now I'm in the mood for s'mores. I'm gonna get some ingredients and make some. You don't even need a campfire or a special occasion to enjoy a good s'more, just pop it in the microwave for a few seconds to soften the marshmallow on the chocolate and mm-MMM good. :D

[@iamtobler]

Perfect analogy..

[@pixelated23-b9z]

I agree with conan so much and i never had the courage to voice it. My husband made smores AT HOME on our grill and I still don’t have the courage to say it 😆 I just act like they are amazing.

[@apatternedhorizon]

Cool. More s'mores for everyone else. Just throw a pack of hot dogs at Conan.

[@pearlejam7115]

Conan is right. It's a projected happy memory. When in reality a sticky mess and you don't have a sink 😒

[@reev9759]

"They think they're supposed to love it" is a really solid point.

[@adammcdowell1016]

S’mores are too messy for me to enjoy as much as other people. A roasted marshmallow is equally as good without getting your fingers sticky

[@jasonezzell6901]

"Maybe next time we'll try that... ...in the hot tub" - Matt Gourley 2022

[@CLuvTravels]

S'mores could be like everything else in life......Some like it, some don't

[@TheMontrealPaul]

Ralph Fiennes' character in The Menu : " Smores. The most offensive assault on the human palatte ever contrived. Unethically sourced chocolate, gelatinized sugar water imprisioned by industrial grade Graham cracker. It's everything wrong with us, yet we associate it with innocence, with childhood. " Conan would be proud lol

[@Dsarah86]

I dislike standard smores. It's just sweet on sweet on sweet. Then I made a smores with Reese's peanut butter cup. It's so good. It's the camping version of a fluffier nutter

[@QuatreMontanaWinner]

I'm with Conan on this

[@Moekoffee2001]

The way they made it, what they ate was a S’mess. Right up there with Lucy at the chocolate factory

[@andreszamorano9]

Sona has a point smores are elite.Especially with the marshmallow a little burnt

[@clarkkenttheman]

Don't use aluminum foil...and heat...the hear makes aluminum particals go into or onto the food

[@Lilbittywhor3]

I love smores they taste good ppl just hate cuz theyre afraid of getting their hands messy

[@biblicaltruthingaming8227]

S'mores are delicious. Their biggest problem is they are so sticky and messy, and you end up getting them all over your face, which makes you look like a fool in front of everyone else sitting around the fire. Cute as a kid, not so cute when you're an adult.

[@argotsymbolsoftheangels]

Bake Cornbread in your cast-iron skillet with the lid on over the fire or bury it under coals until done. Then put butter and honey on it and serve it in small paper plates. That's better than smores. I don't care for smores.

[@THETRIVIALTHINGS]

The elementary school level argument at the end was perfect.

[@gamesnstuff657]

The weak link of the S'more is the Hersey's chocolate which is what most American's use unfortunately. Which is chocolate flavored wax,. If you up the chocolate quality the S'more DRASTICALLY improves.

[@brenobacci]

I never had s'mores, but I did eat marshmallows a couple of times, and I side with the pirate's parrot.

[@bravo_01]

Hi Conan and crew ! 👋

[@raphaelturtle4146]

Forget the campfire. Too much work. Microwave them. Much better. Smores are great.

[@mercenary1106]

I agree with Conan

[@caronstout354]

Chef Julian Slowik has a few choice words about S'mores worth hearing...

[@thommytsunami]

I call shenanigans on the poll because the experience was sabotaged with oversized marshmallows.

[@chones01]

There’s a cheat code for s’mores to take them over the top. Instead of Hershey chocolate, use a Reese’s cup.

[@willofphil]

S'mores are the frying an egg on a hot car out in the desert heat of desserts.

[@sarawarren673]

Sona's glare at Eduardo...... Omg watch tf out Ed!

[@deedeeblanscet4433]

I HATE marshmallows but love s’mores. They’re delicious and nostalgic.

[@bigal7561]

Wonderful

[@YodatheHobbit]

I was always nervous and scared around campfires because it usually involved 8 year old me, my little brother, and my single mom camping with strangers I didn't know and gathered around a campfire, SO NO CONAN! I love the taste of smores, no American camping nostalgia for me!

[@ReivecS]

The 1 bright spot in an otherwise traumatic experience can also lead to the same effect. Either way you are tying a strong emotional connection to a sub-par treat.

[@NoNo-bz1fz]

I didn’t think I could ever lose respect for Conan but damn. Without a doubt my favorite pop tart is s’mores.

[@dicktracy3331]

The s'more is good because it solidifies gathering around a campfire as a unique event from all the other events we do. You have a turkey and stuffing on Thanksgiving, Ham on Easter, S'Mores at a campfire. It's a special food like the others.

[@NikoMoraKamu]

it's sugar with sugar with sugar with sugar i'm with conan

[@holdenpi]

It's the experience that makes S'mores great. Yes there are better desserts but not that can be made around a campfire.

[@huero33]

S’mores are the best!

[@TheJohnny928]

Takes FOREVER with Bic lighter 😂

[@dancahill9585]

Conan really was the S'mores of Late Night talk show hosts.

[@tylercarrell]

If you’re not a big fan of conan, who do you prefer?

[@dancahill9585]

@@tylercarrell Why would you think that? Maybe I agree with Sona about S'mores?

[@kellymae2421]

Not a fan of s’mores. Toasted marshmallows are great though :)

[@venkatsarma007]

S'mores are great because of those toasted marshmallows 🙄

[@YodatheHobbit]

NO! Just eating the marshmallow is BORING!

[@mikeg6991]

I am surprised by Conan's stance. I feel the S'more is one of the strongest childhood cornerstone's of americana. I remember my parents showing me to how make one around a fire and having fun with the process. It brought us together and it brought us outdoors. I feel it's the uniquely odd way that one is constructed, and the mess it makes, that makes it a family experience. That's something I don't think our american culture has enough of!

[@tuomassaarinen]

I have listened every episode of podcast and I still dont know what smores are

[@clementine2234]

Even if you've never had one, how do you get this far in life without knowing what a smore is lol

[@tuomassaarinen]

@@clementine2234 Mostly because I am from Finland and smores says nothing to me. Of course I could google it but why ruin fun.

[@Timinator62]

@@tuomassaarinen There's S'Mores how to videos here on KZbin...

[@tuomassaarinen]

@@Timinator62 But am I ready for those

[@tuomassaarinen]

@Depressed Godzilla I have watched maybe every episode of South Park but even there, smores seems to skip me.

[@jamescooper4649]

The Dubliners - Wecha Wailia

[@samiam5557]

I agree the S'more is the pegleg of treats/desert.

[@clydewakefield7349]

Replace the chocolate with a reeses peanut butter cup and you're changing your tone!

[@dbp192000]

A pirate with an Irish accent?

[@mikezunin6151]

Ok, here's what you do. Make a hole in the marshmallow, stick a piece of chocolate in there, char that bad boy, take the char skin off so you got the sticky icky, roll it in crushed graham cracker crumbs, and then enjoy a B- treat instead

[@TheRickuren]

I love s’mores.

[@Phornax7]

S'mores poptarts are the best poptarts

[@Leftyotism]

I aggree with Conan! 😅

[@calebroberts89]

I get what Conans saying, but s’mores are delicious lmao. The overhyped part is cooking them over an open flame. Just pop it in the microwave for 10 seconds and it’s so good

[@PaperHamburgers]

I never liked s’mores either! I know I’m supposed to, but they never live up to the excitement you build while making them! I found like 3 other fireside treats to make, because I love the concept but not the flavor!

[@samclemmons5373]

I love s’mores. I’ll make them in the microwave at home sometimes.

[@Timinator62]

Part of the "love" of s'mores was kids getting to make them when camping, and also Parents almost never said "you can only have 1", most kids ate them until they got sick (sorta like Halloween Candy) I had my first and ONLY s'more at about 10 yrs old Camping for my first time and the Fat Female on the Weight Watches Diet camping next to us introduced us to s'mores...YUCK way too sweet.

[@adamc5057]

S'Mores are f'ing awesome. Period.

[@mdrmb]

Dark chocolate and add peanut butter. Upgrade your S'more!

[@jermainekngdom3154]

Hard crackers with too soft center is weird. You bite and eject your filling if not careful. Graham crackers are not made for sandwiches.