2023 Haval Jolion S Review: I can't believe I'm saying this...

[@CarSauce]

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[@rajpreetchoudhary189]

A lot of people warned me not to buy Chinese made cars but I got the Jolion Ultra and I’m absolutely loving it. Test drive it and you’ll know. For $33k you can’t get a better deal!!

[@CarSauce]

Their loss! As long as you can excuse the faults with its price, I think most people would be like you

[@rajpreetchoudhary189]

@@CarSauce true. Don’t know what people expect in $33k lol.

[@R0nd1]

What the fuck, you can get a real c-class or c-cross car for $30 and up

[@flyingbears5635]

China is the second largest manufacturer of cars behind Japan, then korea and Thailand! So what do aussies made besides ugg or Tim tam? It a family suv and as long as its safety five stars, then what’s wrong? China made better products compared to Australia mate.

[@simonp9471]

​@@flyingbears5635 We made good products once. But everyone wanted to be millionaire business owners, so they shifted production to China and sold out Aussies. Chinese products are pretty good, but let's not kid ourselves, they reverse engineer and steal copyrighted designs on nearly everything. Now the same Chinese are buying properties in Sydney and Melbourne. Are you going to care about dirty CCP money, if it makes you an instant millionaire?

[@pabloandresmalverdesahd9081]

The speed issue in curves in the auto pilot mode is fixed recallibrating the system. In my country, at least, the dealer does it upon request by the owner, for free, and the results are very satisfactory.

[@Vetall1176]

Could you tell us in more detail what this procedure is? What should the dealer do during this procedure?

[@pabloandresmalverdesahd9081]

@@Vetall1176 they should reprogram the unit that controls the assistance systems. I don't have further details about it, since I just took it to the dealer, and they did the reprogramming while I went to a shopping mall nearby to have a coffee. It took about 45 minutes, but it was because they were using the programming machine with another procedure in another car, then mine had to wait. They actual procedure takes around 15 to 20 minutes. Anyway, since it is an optional procedure and not an official recall from the OEM, every dealer in every country is free to do it or not for their customers. Yo have to ask whether they are doing that specific procedure in your country.

[@Vetall1176]

@@pabloandresmalverdesahd9081 Thanks for the detailed answer

[@TheHayabusa09]

I love my Jolion Ultra and only wish, I had known about this new model..Needless to say, I've done two long interstate trips and found the comfort, safety and visibility excellent. All for $34k drive away. Would I buy another one? Definitely.

[@CarSauce]

The extra power is nice but not necessary! For me though, the hybrid is the pick

[@cressida00]

I have a 2022 Jolion S. It's been a great car, no electrical faults or mechanical breakdowns in 12 months. I wish the seats had more bolstering and comfort.

[@bethua8724]

I'm glad for a review on a haval jolion S thinking about buying it.

[@brakgosi6271]

Great review and fair for the most part. I agree that the dual clutch gearbox isn't great but that applies to all small engines, one example being the Kia Sportage. Dual clutches should only be fitted to sportcars.

[@brook280]

na, duel clutch in my polo is great. Chinese don't spend a lot on engineering and tuning

[@brakgosi6271]

The DSG gearbox in the Polo and other VW cars is one of the most unreliable gearboxes. They're almost guaranteed to develop a mechatronic failure which is costly to repair. Although the Haval Jolion is obviously not perfect, it's been more than 3 years since they came to market and some of them have surpassed 150 000km without reported common DCT failures.

[@WesleyKinnear]

I always find it weird when they test drive these cars and mention how poor the fuel consumption is and how they struggle with parts, but i've had bmw 316i which is a 1.6 and fuel was horrible parts are stupid expense, had a audi A3 1.8t fuel was horrible and parts is expensive, had a Mercedes c180 kompressor same situation horrible fuel expensive parts...then i had a nissan tida nice drive light on fuel but just a simple box car with a renualt engine, had a polo nice car light on fuel, semi lux with expensive parts especially cv's, had a corolla 1.6 nice car light on fuel when driving carefully, semi lux and again parts are expensive... all cars have their quirks but the Chinese car get dragged through the mud... people should start realizing what they where is made in china, their phones are made in china, wifi made in china, technology made in china... and thats just a few things... for a bmw,Mercedes, audi, with similar tech and spec you pay over a mill in SA, so i'm just saying

[@Aangel452]

These fully digital screen cars are dangerous. We get fined for even looking at our phones, let alone looking away from the road constantly to press buttons and try to find what your looking for on a digital screen while driving.

[@AlexZandernt]

My Haval Jolion (without S) will be 2 years old in February. A wonderful car. With a bunch of modern options.

[@TheMidasMD]

Why should people hate you for it? Why can't you believe you are saying this? Reviews are meant to be dispassionate and objective without any colouration. The truth is a lot of reviews from people in the West (Yes, Australia counts as part of the West), test and review cars based on heavily prejudiced notions. And even when such prejudice is totally found unwarranted, they tend to have difficulty accepting this reality. What we see and hear in this review is a prime example of that situation.

[@conrafael9465]

Hi can you test the haval jolion hybrid.

[@wayne9979]

We bought the Jolion Ultra earlier this year and love it. Just hired a MG in the Gold Coast…thank god we didn’t buy one,no comparison!!

[@slavstojnic7279]

Meh.. not really a fan of haval but like you said it is what it is! Honestly it’s a good review and nice to see you boys !

[@kurtcheung4530]

I hope you can review LDV D90 too

[@travelvideos]

Very popular car in China. Looks good for fans. Not for me, but people like that car and it is useful for them.

[@creativethinking6692]

All Australian reviews for the Haval Jolion are either Hybrid or S. Could someone please do a review about the base model Premium? Even when you go to a dealership, they only have Hybrid or S for test drives. For those who are on a tight budget, there is no chance of getting prior knowledge about the car.

[@MeditateMeHigher]

I just brought a premium base model.. it's straight forward and manual seats, cotton fabric seating, reverse beep camera, same in almost everything else! It's great for 25k.. there is no point for anyone to review the premium model...haha! It's the base base! Almost everyone is getting their cars on finance crédit.. so everyone just simply and quickly upgrades to Lux or H! 28k to 33k ish! Yehhhh I paid cash so I needed to stay within the 25k price marl! Hardly anyone pays cash so the dealerships just order Lux and above! But the dealership I went through had 2..premiums arriving in May!

[@davidbolton576]

There is another full settings menu operated from the steering wheel. My jolion now has 90000km on the clock and hasn't missed a beat

[@rc70ys]

2023 and fuel consumption is that of an old Ford Territory. I think this would be better as a hybrid ? If you were to buy one.

[@sfjvariety582]

the inline 6 territory literally had a fuel consumption upwards of 15l/100KM so i wouldn't say The Haval is so thirsty especially with how it's being driven in the video.

[@ezy.from.now.on.]

Just so you know, the jolly on actually also has launch control. You put it in sport mode. Turn traction control off. Then simply hold the brake and the accelerator and it comes up saying launch control activated.

[@Nae395]

These cars from China and India are keeping the south Koreans, Japanese and ze Germans very honest

[@uzziake]

Which indian car ?

[@yash.k4488]

​@@uzziakeMahindra xuv700 ,Scorpio n

[@8vtec]

please don't bring India up. It's still a long way to go. You look at what is available in china, they didn't bring the best out of Chinese cars. Dealers only bring what will make the best profit models. I mean would you buy a Chinese car in the 50-60k price range? But there are a lot better Chinese cars in china.

[@harmlesscarrot1797]

​@@8vtec Sorry to burst your bubble, but China cars have a much longer way to go... just look at the transmission issues in this video. Go try driving the Mahindra XUV700, no such driving issue with them. => That is for ICE cars. Yes, for electric, China cars are ahead.

[@mbk7771]

@@harmlesscarrot1797China has many brands just this one has transmission issue doesn’t mean all the Chinese brands have transmission issue. And Mahindra is ugly as well as its performance

[@BidhanAmatya]

Where do you guys take the car for review ? seems like a good stretch with nice roads.

[@PrinceYanelbg]

Great video mate !

[@Scottishheart1969]

Just bought a Jolion lux , I’ll be back in 10,000 Ks to let you know !

[@marshallzacyarnold3321]

How is it going

[@Scottishheart1969]

@@marshallzacyarnold3321 , it hasn’t skipped a beat and is lovely to drive the only couple of thing I’m not liking is the the round gear select knob ( I’d much rather the normal old gear lever) and the way cruise control breaks on corners!

[@travelsaga4663]

Which model you recommend to buy?

[@Scottishheart1969]

@@travelsaga4663 we have got 15000 on it now and drove it from Melbourne to Brisbane and back 2 weeks ago. My wife and I I love the car and it hasn’t missed a beat so far my only dislike of the car is the cruise control! If you want me to elaborate let me know !

[@Scottishheart1969]

@@travelsaga4663 we got the lux !

[@SurajKumar-AskMe]

How does it compare with the newly launched Mahindra XUV700 since they both cost "almost" the same?

[@CarSauce]

Review soon!!

[@shahadsorwar3843]

I can say xuv 700 will be more reliable than Chinese counterpart

[@arminius6506]

My friend tried both, he says Mahindra feels a cheaper product and has inferior build quality

[@harmlesscarrot1797]

@@arminius6506 My friend also tried both, he said the Mahindra felt more reliable and didnt have transmission issues like this one.

[@pravuchaudhary3904]

have you filmed this in broadford?? nice scene

[@john_barnett]

18inch wheels, when you turn the driver monitor off it stays off, and the small cup holder will hold on to most fast food drinks (including coffees and large) like a vice grip

[@letsseeif]

Matt and Jacob. I could put up with nearly every thing on the impressive Haval Jolian at that price. l'm almost tempted to buy one, but I only want a little city car.

[@navsulaiman8520]

Hi do you know how to turn off the day time running light while engine on?

[@lordbuckethead2022]

we just brought a 2023 BMW X3 30i and it was 100k negotiated. this Haval isn't as good as the X3 but its 3 times cheaper and is the BMW 3 times better?? that's questionable because the 30i is a B48 and these engines have made 550whp in USA with a stock block, so stock its going to last. The Haval hasn't been tested through time and development and although it has a 7 year warranty, who's to say Haval will be around for 7 year? However I can very impressed. id purely buy the AWD version and use this for recreational activities, or buy a used one as new car manufacturer used cars do depreciate the most, just look at 10 year old KIAs But yes 37k for a brand new SUV is pretty insane value in this overinflated market, We have a 2020 X3 M40i and we are keeping it because at the time of purchase I got it for 93500 before covid and for a 2023 model its now 130k so we aren't keen to pay a 60k premium to get the slightly refreshed model. this said this has to be one of the best values you can get from a New Car stand point. I want one so I can go fishing in it cause the wife won't let me use the BMW XD obviously BUY ONE, do you have a discount code from Haval, they should sponsor you bro

[@RodneyW]

Thanks for the review. Very cheesy humour.... but with an underlying rigour. Well done. My major concern would be the longevity of the 1.5 litre turbo motor. It's easy enough to make them feel nice when new, but will it last 250,000km? The track record of other marques with similar engines is not great. The fact that the fuel consumption was not much better than a V6 Kluger is another negative...

[@jazzcardashcam]

Does the Hybrid model have a turbo too?

[@jmebkk]

Yes, and it's quite good too!

[@jazzcardashcam]

@@jmebkk Good, I just bought one everything said it had a turbo but others online said no. I also own a H6 Hybrid that things a beast.

[@wcrash9361]

@@jazzcardashcamno there is no turbo in the hybrid version same as Toyota hybrids don’t have turbo only petrol version

[@andydeng7113]

@@jazzcardashcamMe too, H6 hybrid best value 4 me

[@g_regulator1695]

Have a Jolion premium and it drives great for the price

[@tjaartvaneeden8072]

In South Africa they are ferly common but I heard a lot of people complain about the running cost as well as customer support. They also mentioned a long waiting period for parts. The resale value is also next to nothing. The worst is the fuel consumption. I drive a 2.2 diesel that is also a SUV and has AWD as well and if I drive conservative I can get up to 8.5 in town and on the open road I go down to around 7 liters per 100 km. Parts for the brand I drive is most cases of the time is always available. I understand the same with P series pick ups they sell here the service is nearly twice of a Hilux and I heard they already have some problem the dealer cant seem to resolve. I don`t think it`s a good idea to buy a new brand with nearly no support. Rather first do your homework before buying into a brand you are familiar with.

[@Happyndfun]

Agreed

[@chriss6910]

Why would you buy one of these over a Mazda CX 30 Evolve?

[@Maige2900]

Because cheaper for all the bells and whistles, warranty is longer, driving day to day can you say a Mazda is better on average in a to b situations? Japan is basically done no more innovation

[@Maige2900]

@@gogeorgia707 look at other markets and it’s home market where the cars have been driven and established, minuscule international footprint of our market doesn’t determine whether or not a car is justified because it has a couple less dealerships and hasn’t been on the road more than 24 months.

[@Maige2900]

@@gogeorgia707 "While it is true that inexperienced individuals often leap into situations that more knowledgeable and cautious people would avoid, we should also remember that sometimes taking risks can lead to great discoveries and achievements. Innovation and progress often come from those who dare to venture into the unknown. So, while it's important to exercise wisdom and caution, let's not discourage the spirit of exploration and the potential for growth that can come from stepping outside comfort zones."

[@MeditateMeHigher]

PRICE😂

[@davidmackenzie5971]

Just something to think about, about 5 weeks ago I saw a Havel 6 on the side of the road with its passenger side front wheel, or should I say the front wheel assembly in a paddock and the owner " RED in the face" screaming down his phone. And it had new number plates. Also I heard that the Havel has heavy steering 🤔🤔🤫

[@渡海-q2w]

nice fantasy story piece of work 😂

[@ben7020]

It would be easier to digest with branding that was tasteful / stylish. I'd say the DCT could be better with further software development, not that DCT sould be in any daily grind car. 🍻

[@jimmyp1433]

I shall refer to this model as JOLIONS from now on , unless they move that S a bit

[@nylimoman]

I'm very interested in buying it but I'm concerned that the company will be going out of business. All chinese car makers are struggling , too much competion and a few will not last. Then what ? how would you get parts? fix it?

[@markscott2215]

As a tall person, the short seat base and non-telescoping steering column is a deal breaker. Probably ok for shorter drivers.

[@WNSouthWild]

FINALLY! A f$ck!ng review where someone actually drives the Jolion f$ck!ng S!!! “S” And does a 0-100 Thank you so much I’m buying one I’m happy with this review

[@ameraljabr405]

Where i live they’re selling a new 2023 model for $18k i guess I’ll buy one

[@tashriquekarriem8865]

If they fix those "small" problems the price would I increase massively.

[@jmebkk]

From primarily software fixes 🤔

[@seancasey180]

The charging cable can come through where the phone sits, there is a ‘false floor’ rubber mat there and a hole to pass your cable though. A piece of black electrical tape cut to size turns off the BEEP BEEP BEEP permanently, you’re welcome! 😅

[@MeditateMeHigher]

Where am I putting that electrical magic tape? To stop the which beeps? I'm keen to kno can't stand beeps

[@AndyHall-w4l]

What you really don’t want in a car review when you are thinking about buying is the repeated quote “ it’s really not that bad” are you kidding I want to hear “ it’s great”

[@Mattfghdghd]

I think whenever you review cars that are not a BMW 3-Series or a Audi A1 ect. There will always be things you give up so the price can be lower. The repeated sentence of "it's not that bad" is mainly saying, for the price you pay, you are not giving up that much but there is obviously room for improvement. We all want a beautiful engine for $30,000 but you can't get quality and cheap together. You have to give up leather seats, LED headlights, curtain airbags ect. I think the whole car is not bad for those who just need transport. For your enthusiast drivers, obviously this isn't for you.

[@xXSinForLifeXx]

It's because it's a car that's cheap for the features it has.

[@supertrooper73]

Looks like a GMC from behind.

[@jaybeemhardscrote7466]

Yeah! The Terrain, is it?

[@supertrooper73]

@@jaybeemhardscrote7466 LOL yes

[@ranesumedh]

Lots of cars in one car - Audi Q8 Front Headlights , XUV 700 bumper , Kia Seltos Tail Lights - Jolion 😂

[@JackMcSomeone]

"Just don't put New South Wales plates on cars, we're from Victoria" As a fellow Victorian, I approve

[@abettertomorrow5928]

Haval has a cult following in Australia social media.

[@elyse6688]

I love the exterior look of Havals, but I could never buy a Chinese made car 😬 Great review guys!

[@elyse6688]

It was about quality, but that’s just one persons opinion 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@candicem9344]

It's so strange that people have this assumption because when it comes to technology China is twenty years advanced to the western world. When people believe only cheap products are made in China its a lie because it's the purchaser who only wants to buy cheap so they get cheap.

[@pauld6556]

Chinese cars still have a long way to go here in Australia. Along with a poor dealership network they are a still very much a chuck out car after warranty.

[@markuc]

After 7 years I think you should be more than happy

[@maxinlux6570]

It looks like what I would have got had I ordered my Mazda CX 60 from Wish... Not a fan of this at all.

[@KurtYang-q5s]

the Hybrid one is much much better

[@roguelokigaming9993]

I bought this shit 2 months ago and it breakdown all of a sudden and the customer service is just shit . I hate Chinese cars now

[@abdulfayo7330]

Dang how r u going now? Hopefully the issues are fixed.

[@sh4ne01]

"Fist me" 🤣

[@Pyjamarama11]

I've driven a few Joilions and I didn't get my jolly-on Terrible ergonomics Poor visibility Noisy Gutless engine & trannie Lifeless steering and handling Crashy suspension Overboosted braking The price isn't enough reason to drive crap

[@wedgett1]

Lost me at Haval 😂

[@BernardSolomon]

First.

[@jarbellajc]

Get what you pay for!

[@PhantomRider-78]

hahaha..ok daddy...haha

[@magicwrap]

Lots of advertising. no good

[@JohnSmith-jh1iy]

Made in China. Thats a hard no from me.

[@jmebkk]

Mine's made in Thailand, like most of your utes.

[@wcrash9361]

My jolion hybrid is made in Thailand. Most components in your car are from China

[@manimalworks7424]

Whatever device you used to type in the message, let us know where it is made.

[@djizzah]

If you want a cheap but good car for the money, the rexton or musso are far superior to this

[@patrickporter6536]

Hope it lasts longer than Covid. I'd rather have a Mahindra....