Oren Soffer Explains Why He Filmed A Hollywood Blockbuster on Sony FX3

[@AlextheLue]

I would love to say, “Thank you,” to Matti and crew for uploading this FREE, insightful conversation with Oren. What a crash course of learning for young filmmakers

[@mattih]

🙏🏻

[@docwilliams]

Yes this was great!

[@dxltv]

😊 25:20

[@johnnozzi-photovideo6543]

Watching this with an FX3 on my desk, in front of me, and the fact that it filmed this movie is BONKERS. Always love your content sir! 🎉

[@BrandonPrive1432]

don't forget seemingly fail to mention they used a 85,000 dollar lens, so like most things, the camera is important, but alot of the time its the glass that can make or break your footage, i get it sounds cool they used a cheaper more consumer camera, but they seem to forget the part of using a 85,000 dollar lens

[@zigmej]

they had 10. you are 9 short of greatness😂👍🏻

[@belleslumieresstudios8560]

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[@Jay-jb2vr]

Rich guy....

[@Shiinamusiclyricssubs]

it's not even the fact they have a 85k lens@@BrandonPrive1432 , it's more so they have 500k worth of lighting, staff, rigs, location, etc. Just look at apple and their new keynote filmed on iPhone, most of the credit goes to the lighting, gimbal and staff, not the sensor.

[@brycequerubin9333]

What a crazy time to live in. Blessed to be a creator right now

[@he.smile_]

Pun intended

[@DuncanSmith]

This series is so so valuable, can't say that enough. So stoked for part 2

[@mattih]

I’m pretty sure I’m looking forward to it more 😊

[@DuncanSmith]

@@mattih haha fair enough

[@DavidGBlair]

Until you get censored

[@superemesean5907]

Oh gosh! Get off his nuts 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@red11media]

I've been asking this question for years, "Does Hollywood NEED tons of gear, or could they make an amazing movie with 'prosumer' gear?" Thanks for the breakdown. It was a great interview!

[@DarioSinger]

Yes the fx3 without tons of gears and expertise would never give such results.

[@Oceansta]

We're at a tipping point now in terms of technology where the image quality of a "small" camera has become virtually indistinguaishable from the high-end ones albeit with a lot of work done in post. This wasn't the case maybe even 5 years ago where the image quality of these consumer/prosumer cameras was vastly inferior. The last time this happend was around 2012 when the Arri Alexa became mainstream and the image became virtually indistinguishable from film.

[@Arvidje]

its most about lightning and the lenses.. those lenses will u cost u 5 times that fx3.. when i am using my expensive cine lens on a old canon mk2.. it will blow away the newest ursa 12k in terms of cinematic look.. so yeah..

[@fai1023]

they still need tons of gears simply because the lighting, vfx, and production design carried the film, not even talking about the lenses. however, shifting from big arri cameras to a small fx3 is a huge upgrade in terms of portability and being compact, its a yes and no answer basically.

[@jussikemppainen]

That small little mention of film halation changed the way I think of image processing forever for sure! Worth the watch just for it.

[@YusefNova]

Around which part of the video was this at?

[@imoutodaisuki]

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[@redboy.]

Finally motivated out to the theatre see The Creator this past weekend. SUCH a gorgeous looking film. Well done all.

[@mattih]

It’s so good!

[@mediaflmcreation]

This whole video should tell you that it's not the camera, it's the user. It's not how much it costs, it's how much work you put into it.

[@JamesPrime1]

“We shot on the fx3 exclusively.” 30 seconds later: “we used an Fx9 and a mavic pro, also some Nikon.”

[@Level-ts7xl]

i hope this kind of filmmaking becomes a trend. lower budgets and more risktaking. this movie was such a breath of fresh air

[@pjiglesias9464]

Great interview, Oren really speaks well and hits all of the questions he was asked on the nose. He’s super intricate yet to the point with his responses.

[@ponderwithjess]

Thank you guys! I was fascinated to hear more about this as I went to see the movie BECAUSE it was shot on a consumer camera. The funny thing was I was immersed immediately in the story so I forgot to look at it from that lens lol. This was a great conversation and I can't WAIT for the behind the scenes video!!!! Thanks again, guys ❤

[@JonasBecker]

Thank you, Matti! Using your reach to give us such deep insights with those amazing creatives is insanely valuable. Especially mixed with your own content exploring all the techniques!

[@CamberFilmSchool]

About to start filming my first feature w/ the FX3 that I’ve been using since it came out! 🎥

[@JakeOfAllTrades]

AMAZING interview man! this film and Gareth and Oren are definitely inspirational for scrappy indie filmmakers. By downscaling their tooling to a more prosumer level, they seemed to allow for more creative freedom in the storytelling.

[@mattih]

I really like this approach

[@Newbster312]

Just bought a ticket for this movie just because of the interview! Good conversation Matti!

[@mattih]

Heck yes 🙌🏻 you will love it

[@dollarsaurus01]

This movie- and how it was made- is fascinating and exciting for the future of cinema, but I think a lot of vloggers and content creators are getting ahead of themselves with all these “all you need to make a blockbuster movie is an FX3” articles and videos. They had an army of VFX artists from ILM to help realize this vision, not to mention very expensive and inaccessible lenses, access to highly remote and difficult locations, etc. As DIY as the production was compared to the average big budget FX-driven film, this still would not have happened without the budget and resources of a major studio backing it

[@andyk939]

Also helps to have a compelling script or content. KZbinrs "reacting" to other content, or lip syncing to other content while wearing a funny outfit doesn't cut it.

[@drobertsphoto]

Just come across this interview, I am sucking up all things The Creator. It is beyond inspiring to see such wonderful imagery and storytelling be accomplished with such equipment. Right now an FX3 is out of my budget but I have a Fujifilm X-T5 and Canon RP and this has put a spark in me. I'll be out using what I got and working on my visual language and my writing. A whole generation of filmmakers are going to be born from this.

[@KristopherSatchell]

Thank you for making this video, its definitely inspirational for all filmmakers. Its never about the gear, its the person using the gear. Everyone make your movie!

[@wkmpellucid]

This was the best conversation about filmmaking choices for "The Creator" - more than just the camera, which all along I thought was the case.

[@DontTouchArtStudios]

Matti, beyond excited for your Human Video Co. I got into the Tribeca Film Festival with an a7s II last year. I live in Vancouver so I’m thrilled for your contest 🙌🏽 great interview too, have fx3 coming next week

[@jas_bataille]

I remember a DP roundtable with Rogers Deakins, who is by far my favorite DP in the world (his last movie, Empire of light, just the B-roll made me tear up). The roundtable host said, "Film or digital?" and everyone said a strong preference. Deakins simply stated, "if you were to give me a phone, I could make my movie anyway." 2049 was shot with two cameras, all internal colors (so color-timed instead of graded) even for the orange desert stuff. Love that Sony is bringing that philosophy and enabling more directors to get out there and just film! Sony should reach out to him tbh

[@chrisnielsen9885]

It's a shame Deakins and other cinematographers are so against grading.

[@BrokenBicyclesProductions]

Astonishing movie. We saw it in cinemas two days ago and loved the very detailed world! These interview formats are very nice, thank you! 👌

[@mattih]

It’s so good! One of my fav movies of the year for sure

[@Harthp]

What's the name of the movie? I can't find it mentioned anywhere

[@jonathancanevet]

I love this format of video. Super interesting. It motivates to create more with what we have ! Thank‘s to do videos like this !

[@CodyMadewell]

I absolutely love this style of video. and hearing him talk about colorists was so nice

[@iwillwander]

I’m imagining this on set; the Director himself, running around with main camera, doing all of that + zero lens activity, nobody messing with any cam equipment essentially, except him maybe handing the rig to someone, or maybe just keeping it himself until they get ready for next shot. This is the way. I see Tarantino adopting this shooting technique. And big thanks Matti for this video and your other insightful efforts. Your new fan.

[@MaximoJoshua]

OK, so hear me out. I think Oren was saying that there is a sliding scale of tradeoffs between smaller cameras and bigger cameras, Sony FX3 was a nice point for them, because they had budget and rigged out 10 different camera bodies. One of the biggest takeaways for me was that he was saying that the color science, the grading process, the film emulation, all of that is what imparted the "look" of the film. He really emphasized how creativity can be unlocked when you can be unobtrusive and very mobile, mentioning things like "docu-style". I don't think that for an 80 million dollar sci-fi blockbuster this would work, but imagine a smaller budget indie movie filmed on...the iPhone 15 Pro Max using Apple Log and external SSD's. Like he mentioned that they wouldn't have said no to having SDI, and timecode syncing etc, but they made those tradeoffs. This would normally sound crazy, but it's really just tradeoffs. I think we are seeing a move back to run and gun "dv rebel" style stuff, and I am here for it. I think that as the creative tools get more and more democratized, the barrier to entry is just lower and lower. What used to need a Venice, now needs an FX3, what used to need an FX3, might now be done on an iPhone. I can't wait to see what the future holds, because as Oren also mentioned, a pushback to the idea of needing $300 million dollars to shoot a movie is just making movies with less money. The smaller the budget, the more creative risks studios could take, meaning the more interesting stories we may get to see. I am just looking at this from a "skate to where the puck is going" kind of mentality. Matti already did a video comparing his Alexa to the iPhone (obviously the iPhone is not as good as the Alexa, but it provides other strengths, its a tradeoff)...so it might not be that crazy in a few years to see someone make a movie on an iPhone. That being said, the FX3 is still full frame, not 1/1.3", but I am kinda obsessed with the idea of the next "El Mariachi" or "Larceny" being shot on an iPhone. Sometimes it is more interesting to push the boundaries within limitations.

[@mycroft16]

Another interesting thing he didn't really straight up say but implied Garreth was doing is that having such a smaller form camera allows the director to put it places, get shots, and angles, that a larger camera wouldn't be able to. And I love his point about the "look." Don't let camera dictate your look, shoot raw, get the footage and create the look that tells the story you want.

[@BelindaFarage]

This is an AWESOME interview and I'm loving these BTS, be real, dig deep kinda talks. And what a movie. We were in the same boat with you guys - we use Sony exclusively at work and knew the FX3 was a contender for big work. But I was still blown away that they used it for a Hollywood movie. I'm still shaking my head. Oh - and the #human video - ooohhh that stokes me out!

[@BISONBLEU]

Man, your channel turned to such high value content ! Keep pushing this way !

[@amtrmedia]

Been saying this for a long, long time. Convenience is king. We need more cameras like the FX3 out there. It is nice to see modern filmmakers embracing the convenience factor. Creativity is limited by function, yet is unlimited when function is convenient.

[@samhodde]

This is a fantastic interview. I was so stoked to hear questions asked about how the efficiencies afforded by the gear impacted production workflow and actor's performances, not just technical gear talk.

[@internetj3r]

And then your realize that the lens do a lot of the heavy lifting and create the cinematic format he desired. Camera is amazing, the lenses that were used are even more incredible. Thank you for this video!

[@alwaysthatnumber]

Thank you for this, Matt! This is so great conversation and it helps me a lot with my shooting experience. I´ve been thinking about getting an FX3 camera for a long time, but this is just one big plus for me. Can´t wait for more!

[@katflorida8349]

You missing the whole point. Is not the Fx3 or the Fx100 or Red2000 Is the power of your script! A powerful script is the real expensive tool for filmaking. Something that you can't buy. So instead of waiting for the Fx3 write a script and shoot it with your phone!

[@Primeros1000]

Wow. Sony fx3? Discontinued drone? Vintage anamorphic lens? Amazing. That’s art

[@Sayject]

This is honestly too good ! F X 3 man I am a proud owner but of course they used expensive gear like lenses and so on but still it’s pretty sick

[@gillesmatheronpro]

From the 20 years i spent on films sets, what i value most (aside from the job I had to accomplish) is watching crew members at work, combining ideas, observing one another, preparing, explaining. All this "detail" material taught me so much. And when i discovered that a Director of photography literary holds the image quality in his hands and mind, i thought "When your shift is done, have a chat with the DP about [this] and [that] because there is still one question in your head about those things, and only he can bring some light on.". Oren Soffer just illustrated that to the perfection, as he brought us enough of his global knowledge so we can now understand many more of what they have done before and during the filming. And i would advise all aspiring cinema-makers, no matter their actual jobs and no matter their ideal jobs, to just shut the *fox* up and listen, and watch, and absorb, and memorize, and analyse, and widen their "angles" (fields of image, fields of sound, fields of thoughts,fields of raw and processed data... Thank you Matti for starting such a puzzle-documentary about cinematograph, this is a matter of passion(s) and can never have enough of passionate talented professionals to take us higher and higher. Eagerly waiting for the next one ! ✋️🙂👌

[@DigitallyReArranged]

What a great guy, he was very passionate about the project, and it shows the way he speaks of it! Keep these coming! Love that you're connecting with the big leagues in cinema for this type of content!

[@MarcelVanderHorst]

Love this, can’t wait for the part two. I got the chance to see it on the big screen and it’s spectacular

[@mukdev1724]

What’s the title

[@AAvfx]

*People must know, that the camera is only a small potion of the final shot. The additional gear like lenses and stabilizers, set and post are the main factors for a complete cinematic frame. Keep that in mind.*

[@T.G.F.I]

Thank you, Matti! Highly informative I'd say! All the love from India! We watched it in cinemas two weeks back. Brilliant movie! When hot shot filmmakers are so adamant about using only IMAX or other big cinema cameras, I think they should learn a thing or two from these guys. The freedom a filmmaker gets by using a smaller camera is huge. It gives the flexibility to experiment more and not limit themselves from doing shots that are riskier or impossible with a bigger rig, which means more money on production. This team proved that great movies can also be done with prosumer level cameras. Kudos to the crew who made such a beautiful movie. So lucky to be part of the movie.

[@reeloutdoorjunkies3262]

Love this series, and the implications The Creator has for budding filmmakers.

[@johnnybermudez]

I'm blown away by this interview. Thanks Matti...

[@cineflight1171]

Love these interviews, thanks Matti!

[@jordonchatten]

Please keep doing more of these videos Matti ! Love this kind of content, coming straight from the source it's self !

[@chawhifilms]

Finally! A great piece of content that gives us more details of what the FX3 was like while filming the creator. Amazing Matti!

[@Dagrepublic]

Great interview !!! Thanks guys 🙌🏻

[@tonyrichengod9280]

Amazing interview. My main takeaway is that the camera is basically just the tool to capture the footage. The grandiose look of the film is actually due to the full power of Disney’s best technicians doing amazing work, so let’s give due credit! Eagerly awaiting part 2 of this interview!

[@jonagreyphoto]

That was epic and so incredibly inspiring!! Well done to the crew for that visual masterpiece 🎉👏🏽

[@mike_s_media]

I loved "Raw footage is raw footage, I think what you're referring to are the built in LUTs that Red, Arri, and others have as a "look" but that's all done with the color grading". Finally someone in the professional industry out here schooling the KZbinrs on the "look" hahahaha. Cameras are like everything else in the world... people get that placebo effect going when they see a brand or big $$$... Then someone like this comes along and films a blockbuster Hollywood hit on a $4k camera with some good glass and throws a wrench in everyones wheels!

[@Mr_Kenneth]

Very true. But what everyone needs to understand is that each camera kitted out with a lens probably cost $80K.

[@MichaelWarthStudios]

This is pure gold. I can’t wait for a deep dive on this one.

[@Nellkay]

Man idk why but the shot of the robot on the scooter got stuck on my brain since watching it, its something so mundane yet it tell so much about the world they live in. The worldbuilding in this film is something that i've never seen before

[@HussainAl--Khalil]

thank you for the amazing access you are giving us. Much appreciated!!

[@Ajp155]

Great to see this new kind of content I stopped watching KZbin tutorials and kit content a long time ago, I’ll be tuning back in for more Matty!

[@lanzarotepersonaltraining1563]

Love this. Can’t wait for part two

[@morsumbra9692]

My dad is an editor. He's been GEEKING about this for weeks. Cannot wait to watch this then watch the movie with him

[@mikebalonek]

Love these Matti! These videos are so helpful and informative! Between you and Mark Bone, I think you're easily the best film educators on KZbin. I'm always learning new stuff from you two!

[@AgionFilms]

Thank you to gave us opportunity to watch this wonderful interview!

[@lowerleftside]

Let’s get part two! I love this type of content.

[@StefanRingelschwandtner]

Love these interviews.

[@mattih]

Thanks man 🙏🏻

[@brightcapent]

Matti, as a "soloprenuer" who started my little production company 3 years ago... I just want to say thank you. This conversation really just brings me joy and hope in where I am and where I'm headed, currently with my fx3 :) lol

[@flaviopresutti]

Oh! What a great conversation! This is a really great guy, i'll be waiting for the part two! Greetings from Uruguay

[@VicBarry]

Matti, you’re in your element here dude. And so am I watching this. AMAZING conversation. Thank you for doing this 🙏

[@HunterCash]

incredible, insightful video, thanks Matti for starting this series

[@robertk4517]

The Way Oren depicts how they used multiple FX3 rig setups all ready to go IS for me the ultimate way to flow in any shoot. Small rigs that can be grabbed in a moment to keep the flow happening maximising any set and talent. YES YES YES!. This is the best way to shoot.

[@mikepalmowski]

This format is huuuuge Matti!! Thanks for putting in the effort man!

[@TheGavinAsh]

+1 for deep dive!

[@mattih]

It’s gotta happen

[@adamsaspects]

Phenomenal ❤ glad to see this conversation looking forward to that deep dive breakdown 🤙🏽

[@FlyExpats]

Congrats on getting this interview! Quality, insightful, and entertaining content. Can’t wait for Pt. 2

[@andyxmunoz]

Knowing it was an FX3 made me love the movie 1000000X more in theaters - can't wait to purchase it.

[@rioncinematics]

i really wish these podcasts were available on spotify! Great video as always

[@Spyrosdaf12]

Best series on KZbin. Thank you Matti.

[@keshasrivastav5491]

What a precious interview, thanks for this Matti ❤

[@mrbarkan]

I always did this on my gigs, always trying to push smaller cameras to their limits, producing beautiful cinema worth imagery. And although unfortunately I didn't make it to Hollywood, glad to see someone who did pushing these edges as well. Congrats.

[@wb2463]

Oh wow, this is exactly what I've been looking for! I went and saw The Creator on its first day out and while I was sadly a little let down by the actual story it was visually one of the best sci-fi films I've ever seen, no exaggeration! I'm not going to pretend that an £80mil budget is a tiny amount of money, but for that money they absolutely put to shame all the big studio blockbusters that are costing 3 to 4 times that amount these days. Soffer and Edwards really did an amazing job in showing that you don't need to spend anywhere near the now standard £250mil mark to make a genuine blockbuster with highly original designs, super high quality VFX and breath-taking visuals; Disney, WB, Netflix, you guys might want to take some notes.

[@kevin-haggerty]

Absolue fire interview. I am a Canon user and i have love for all cameras. This is something that still blows my mind and definately gives hope to all of us smaller, growing, and constantly inspired filmmakers.

[@Alan-cl2ix]

People care about content, not pixels, tiktokers with iphones and gamers with stream cameras are wining more money than videographers with equipment worth a house. I would watch a good movie from 1930 rather than a trash one from 2023 that was filmed with the best and latest camera and lenses.

[@kevin-haggerty]

@@Alan-cl2ix Amen my friend!

[@fitnessandfilm]

Great interview! Loved to hear this story! Can't wait for the follow up!

[@nathananderson8720]

This is one of the channels that gave me the courage to start my KZbin channel 9 months ago about self development. Now I have 1,726 subs and > 1k hours of watch time. I know it’s not comparable with others but I’m still proud I started because I’ve been learning so many lessons that I could haven’t learned without getting started in the 1st place.

[@turyboy]

Been so long waiting for this!! Finally!!! Thanks!!❤

[@krishnapatel331]

thank you matti for sharing this type of behind the camera stories....and thank you oren for sharing all the knowledge and exiting facts about what smaller camera and latest technology can do ...📷♥

[@vedvikphotography2652]

This is one of the best series about filmmaking out there! Keep it up Matti!

[@tuomassalonen5159]

Amazing interview. Thank you Matti and Oren!

[@arnauddesne]

Such a great video, thanks a lot Matti and Oren!

[@wkmpellucid]

Great offering, Matti. Thanks so much.

[@BigBossLaxman]

Thanks for the sharing this interview brother, just amazing❤ from India

[@dpixvid]

4 hours of roll time to get 3 minutes of gold! Reminds me of shooting ratios for photography... I go 16 > 1.... as I remember I think 20 > 1 was a good ratio...? This includes high speed fps which isn’t the same as back in the day... Thanks for sharing Oren 👍👍👍

[@BrysonGrayMusic]

Love this interview.

[@VegasDominic]

So so soooo cool that they weren’t even sponsored by Sony ❤🎉

[@AllThingsFilm1]

Thanks for this great interview with Oren Soffer. After seeing "The Creator" I have really been excited about the idea of shooting with the FX3. Sure, it's just a tool. But, the fact that it was used on a big scifi movie is pretty inspirational. EDIT: I can't wait for the BTS on The Creator. That will be so exciting. I'm sure there will be a lot of learn from their process of shooting it with the FX3.

[@alfonsoarayat]

Awesome video Matti! “Gracias” from Chile!!

[@sptheegoat]

Great interview!! Thank you!!

[@davidverolme]

How is this app free 😂 such valuable content and I really can’t wait for part 2!! Slowly realizing that Matti will soon stop making such content. 😢 Thank you so much for everything.

[@Xgil2Play]

They run ads on it

[@OrdnanceTV]

Glad to hear someone else also agrees that the way you feel about how your rig looks is actually very inportant and impacts motivation to shoot. 😁👌

[@davyfbkk]

We are currently filming documentaries in Thailand and I love the scenes that were shown in this video. Very much similar to what we do. We shoot with Sony A7S3 only.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

great interview!

[@danoatenmedia]

wow I didn't want this interview to end! Thanks Matti, I cannot wait for part ii!

[@chrismcduffiephoto]

Data is data. This should put an end to the breathless arguments about brand-specific “looks.” The grade did the heavy lifting with a little help from ILM. That said, this is one of those films you have to see in the theater. I forgot about it being shot on an FX3 after the opening scene.

[@Oceansta]

This is a landmark moment for someone like me who has always been held back by the obsession with high-end gear. I've totally thrown all that away in an instant. Another very petetinent aspect that he points out that the camera is essentially just a 'data capure too'l and that the real look is set in post.

[@austinbrady]

I loved hearing about how many camera rig setups they had. That's brilliant!

[@flameemperor888]

I really like how Matti is nerding out on hearing all the awesome information Oren shared.

[@fmh357]

This was a great movie and I agree with you Matti this is going to change everything. There will always be room for Alexa's et al but our eyes have been opened. Great info and interview.