Are cinema lenses a scam?

[@mattih]

Hi 😊 Missed you guys!

[@leokinast]

Welcome back!

[@manzahmed]

Missed you Matti!❤ Welcome back!

[@RoderickKeys]

This is a great early birthday gift Matti! Love this! 🎉😂

[@EhsanBhowanaProduction]

Missed you so much Matti... and really missing your laughing with teppo

[@LorenzocRichmond]

Hi Matti! We missed you so much. I’m thrilled you’re back. Happy Birthday (December 1st)! My birthday was the 2nd, and I turned 14. Let’s go, Matti! You have the most cinematic videos on KZbin. See you soon! Can’t wait for your next video. -Lorenzo Richmond

[@benjhaisch]

An hour video on lenses? Yes, please.

[@mattih]

It would have been unfair to cut it down more right?

[@andyelement]

And we watch all of it uninterrupted

[@Cannadian]

An hour long ad)

[@orokanaworld]

We have a video from matti before GTA 6. What a time to be alive

[@DannyGevirtz]

back with an hour long ep! Lets go!

[@mattih]

I’m still waiting for that sneak peak of your short film 😊

[@AL3XFPV]

damn was that an hour, felt like 5min! and Im at work 😂 Great video tho!

[@brysimm404]

“You gotta have a set of sick primes to make a film, bro” - yeah, and a big matte box that NEVER has a filter in it 🤦🏻‍♂️🙄 I’ve been a working pro video & TV DP for 25 years and never needed either. The Arri 65 is a “tool” in the way a Lamborghini is a “mode of transport”. And “detuning” is a gaslighting way of saying “we took this crazy expensive lens and made the look more like a less expensive lens, yet still have you pay for a crazy expensive lens”. Don’t let all the extra verbiage overwhelm you - “lens techs” love to do that and get way in the weeds, as you can see right here in your interview / chat.

[@ProfoundProductions]

Facts!

[@dp_zee]

The answer.. in 2024.. yes everyone is being scammed.. you don't need an alexa and you don't need supreme primes... you need a good story.. Ego heads will say you need the expensive toys... but the reality Is the audience can't tell a difference and really don't care.. the majority are still watching their TV with smooth motion turned on... forget the hype... stop caring about "gear" and honestly stop watching youtubers who talk about gear. Learn how to write and tell a good story

[@mediaflmcreation]

THIS!!!!!!!!!!! FINALLY!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for saying this, you don't need overly expensive equipment to achieve goals these days. All the ohh ahh videos of awesome equipment does not account that not a single person outside the camera club can care less. "dynamic range" don't get me started. I have a Sigma 24mm that will blow away a $5,000 lens all day long(more to day that you won't see a difference) a Nikkor 50mm that would eat Sigma for lunch some vintage lenses that will make modern lenses rethink their life. Cameras?... yea we'll come back to that later lol. "new does not mean better" and having features does not mean your story will magically be better. It's the experience and how you carry the video over to the crowd but sharp and soft are difference feelings...etc. Thanks for saying your comment man when I say it, I get harped over from the camera clubbers because I don't believe in their nonsense.

[@BradyBouren]

You post nothing for a year, than without warning you drop an hour long video… 🔥 I love it! Glad your back!

[@JoshMindemann]

I did not have a the random, 1 hour reemergence of Matti on my 2024 bingo card or even on my Christmas list... but I'm not mad about it! Just dropping this on us on a random Tuesday, 5 months after your last sighting.

[@AnthonyGugliotta]

Is this real life?

[@KaanSenel]

Love the comeback with this amazing video. Super interesting!

[@WillN2Go1]

I think if I was a young aspiring cinematographer/photographer I'd do a couple of things. First don't be intimidated that you have to spend a lot of money. (A lot of these qualities look like my old film zooms that utterly failed as digital lenses. Find some that fit your camera and play with them. ) The rest of this is taking the best lenses you can get and putting different types of diffusion on them. That's what we did back in the day. That was kind of all you could do. The photographer with a good range of tricks was generally 'better' than people without these tricks. What I remember finding was black mesh was a huge step, but finding a really fine black mesh with not too many threads... became the goal. I'd tape or glue these to a filter ring. And keeping glare off the front of the lens can make a huge difference. A good project might be to diffuse your lens and shoot into the sun like some of those Palm Springs shots. Might not be possible, might be easy. (Getting mesh on a filter inside the lens could be a great trick.) The plastic bag filter in the video is a great example. You'll probably want to start with a much clearer piece of plastic. For us it was one half of a 4x5 transparency sleeve. Even an optically good sheet of plastic will give you softness and flare. For bokeh our best tool was large aperture, but mostly longer lenses. I worked with a New York fashion photographer who shot full body shots with 180 and headshots with a 360, all wide aperture (I think 2.8). The difference between a style and a bad shot actually overlaps. Some of my best images were picked by someone else because to me it they were rejects. But I learned from mistakes. Not how to fix them, but how to better apply them. Maybe I'm a cranky old guy but I would hate to spend a long day hearing 'bokeh' every five minutes. Would drive me nuts.

[@VernNorrgard]

It's good to see you back again, Matti. I've been following you since I needed to make moving text in AA, I think you had something like a couple of thousand subs back then. And here we are now, watching this fantastic in-depth conversation on the real side of cinema that most people will never get the opportunity to, at the very least, even eavesdrop on. Thank you so much for sharing this.

[@bodendorfer]

MISSED YOU. Saw you in Peter's latest vid and thought... no way it's Matti. Then at the end, you said you were coming back once you got a new shirt. I was about to message Peter offering to buy you the shirt, but I thought I would check this out. Peter and you have been huge. 5 years ago, I was 600K in debt and thanks to KZbin and your support, I can say, I am very happy. Thanks for supporting the community!

[@masonmacquarrie9203]

Glad you could visit our LA office! Matt and Art have so much knowledge to share. If you are ever in New York I can give you a tour of our office there!

[@MarciBognar]

It was great to see this in dept video, with more technical geeky stuff. I love the fact that when I started to learn videography your and Peters videos were the perfect learning material for me. And now 6-7 years later I'm happy to say that I've become a DP and your video once again provides me with valuable information that I need at this stage of my career. Thank you!

[@AshvonChamier]

I really like this direction with your content, Matti. It's a real example of your growth from starting on youtube to filmmaking back to a different level of KZbin experience you are providing like this. I know there is a lot more production effort and time to consistently make longer content like this. So I don't imagine it will be your only style of videos from here out. But, I hope we can at least look forward to more content like this as a side series (playlist) on your return to your channel. Thanks for making it, nice to see your return, and welcome to the long hair club. lol

[@AaronTremblay]

Matti back on YT with a ONE HOUR banger?! And on one of my latest obsessions?! Merry early Christmas! 😂🎉

[@mattih]

Merry Christmas 😊

[@AaronTremblay]

@@mattihhey btw, I saw your IG story awhile ago when you saw those sirui nightwalker cinema lenses at a trade show. I ended up buying the 16mm and 75mm for my C70 and I’m insanely impressed by them ESPECIALLY considering their sub $400 price tag. So thanks for pushing me over the edge on just grabbing them 😂

[@micahsmithmedia]

super cool you put this out there! Had no idea that lenses are normally always customized for movies. makes sense for so many films that have a certain character/texture. now i don't have to waste my time trying to achieve or replicate a look, I now know I can't lol

[@ProfessorBStudios]

Welcome back!! you were missed for sure. Very excited about this video. Question... is that zoom jumping around 17:00 due to some kind of focus breathing with autofocus or is there something going on that I don't understand?

[@frankebbert7315]

I can’t get enough of learning that flexibility, durability, reliability and adaptive rebuilding is what seriously engineered products provide. I love this video Matti. Really good to see you!! 20:19

[@rovingearth7028]

Idk. Sounds like a whole lot of gate keeping talk from that Arri guy.

[@backyardjunkie]

This was great Matti, now you gotta follow this up with how this filters down to us mirrorless owners wanting to get that cinematic look, and should we go Spherical like Lubezki, or Anamorphic, and what's your preferred cinematic lenses. Thanks for the video man.

[@aratafreecs3445]

This is just so awesome! I could listen to these guys talk about optics for hours. Very well done, love the video!

[@4realjack]

The way you build the edit is crazy, it grabbed my attention right away ( I wasn’t planing on watching this video, but I watched till the end) Editor did such a great job

[@jpeltzphotodesign]

This was amazing Matti... and the F1 metaphor at the end just polished it perfectly! Well done and I think I speak for everyone by saying 'we're glad you're back'.

[@AndreiRestrepo]

The back filter thing and being able even make your own essentially was awesome! Epic vid, cool to have you back!

[@AustinWestbro]

Matti, I LOVE the direction you took the channel. I love that you're more than just a youtuber. You're actually teaching about filmmaking. I love it.

[@jackhayes2369]

First happy to see another video from you and near an hour long one at that But it find it a bit funny that your video is looking at if expensive cinema equipment worth it and the last thing I watch was the trailer for 28 Years Later a $75 million film shot on a iphone 15 Pro

[@JoshHitti]

I haven’t watched in ages and saw your previous video about not coming back to YT. So pumped to see a new vid!

[@UraFlight]

I’m glad to see you back 😊

[@chisholm.studios]

matti back with hour of straight up dope inside to cinema lenses and also a matti and pete video, i am here for it and good old days are back, welcome back matti hope you had a great break great to see you back with passion.

[@austinbrooksproductions]

Sometimes I"ve gotta just take a break from being so caught up with everything, and choose an activity or piece of content to fill my soul's battery back up. This video did the job! Glad to see you again Matti! Thanks for the insightful video!

[@JAMMzMHW]

Money laundering in the upper echelon of the Film Industry

[@Javaughnhenry_]

There is a point of diminishing returns on all this gear, for everything there is. I didn't bring the Ursa Cine into my studio because it would make me more money, I did because it's what I wanted to do, it's the same once you get to this price, on top of that you're renting on the productions dime, so it's all accounted for anyway. Once you get to a certain price bracket it's just based on preference, but preference is also important! Glad to see you back.

[@imawrath]

Asking a manufacturer of expensive lenses about reason to buy expensive lenses is "genius". You should ask farma companies about insulin cost...

[@strangedays871]

lol

[@dylanelvis9677]

🤣"it's the creaminess"

[@elijah-wilson-vids]

Man dude, you're video production for simple KZbin videos is top notch!

[@sergeypoltorakov]

Welcome back. Time goes so quickly, feels like you never been away but videos feel different in a good way.

[@dani-lq5pt]

So nice to see you again over here Matti! Missed you a lot!

[@erwickdsouza]

After coming from Shagral's last vide about the Blackmagic 5, at 9:28 "creaminess and smoothness", wtf does that mean? I'm sure there'a a market for the 65, but most of it is hype. Sure, small sensors will get messed up by physics, but think about the logistics for operation a MF sensor with gargantuan lenses and a camera to match. DGive us numbers, Arri, we'll paint the picture.

[@dylanelvis9677]

Yeah, after Shagral's video I can surely tell this is 90% wine tasting, and 10% actual benefits.

[@vapoimaging4429]

Loved every moment of this video

[@Zacheldridge]

Whoaaaaa! MATTI IS BACK, CHRISTMAS CAME EARLY! Missed you bro!

[@ryanpatrickyoung508]

I’ve never seen a “filmmaker” on an actual set ask, “aRe cInEmA LeNsEs a ScAm?” The only questions I see asked are “What’s the best tool for my film that fits in my budget?” and really, that question is just baked into the pre-production process. “Filmmaker” KZbinrs obsess over gear. Real filmmakers (specifically DPs) obsess over good shots; good shots are the by-product of lighting, camera, lenses, story technique, and really TIME. Likewise, a good director shouldn’t care what camera is used outside of film vs. digital. They should worry about the story, the actors’ performances, and where the camera is placed. Go shoot a narrative piece, go shoot 5-10 pages in a day, go try to make a short film in a weekend, and you’ll quickly realize how little these questions posed matter.

[@MarcoBlanke]

I love the irony of those lenses get modified to get softer xD

[@tuckerkanderson]

So fun running around Arri with you Matti!! Video turned out great 🎉

[@CraigSmithCinePhoto]

Matti coming back in style with a long format long format. Love to see it!

[@mikeglassburn]

1:52 in and totally pumped to see this new version of Matti!

[@yarinsheiman7789]

Incredible video! So glad to see the PYXIS just like mine in the Arri headquarters… Seems like they use it to test out lenses but still we got to see it for the first time without the lens mount 🤣

[@rychusandbonita]

Welcome back Matti, liking the new documentary style of video...p.s I take it Peter bought you a new shirt

[@LifeByConnor]

yoooo That plastic bad trick at 48 mins is beautiful! love the effect lol!

[@SamuelSutanto]

hi Matt,, glad to see you post a new video kinda miss your contents, i learned camera and videography alot from you a fan from Indonesia.

[@daveyhutchison5337]

DUDE! So pumped to see you back! Literally was shocked when I saw this on my subs page. Bring back your daily vlogs??😂

[@wildwoodweddingfilms]

Great video! I watched the whole thing. I do think you missed a key piece: comparing cinema lenses to photography lenses. I know ARRI is an amazing company that has incredible quality and service but are you overhyping their products? Is a small piece of glass attached on the back element of a lens really worth so much money and is it actually a different result than a diffusion filter that can be had for $1-400? Since you own a Mini LF can we get a comparison of the new BM 12k LF?

[@FirstPhilWhisky]

That intro was sick! Good to have you back Matti

[@davidsfilmmaking]

Matti! You’re Back! I missed you❤

[@mattih]

❤️

[@BurlapandLight]

Gonna have to go get my snacks......BRB!!!!!! Okay, yes please, def needed this! Great see you back Matti!

[@boundaryscience]

I like this Matt Kolze guy! He seems so genuine, and he's not trying to upsell the product, he just gives the reasons for one thing and reasons for another and we need more people like him in industry and fewer MBAs and career CEOs.

[@rdstudios_]

DUDE YES MATTI IS BACK!!!!! THAT LAUGH BRINGS BACK GOOD VIDEO MEMORIES!!!

[@dearwhomever-life]

This was such a surprise! Seeing a video pop up for you on my subscribed feed! Happy Holidays!

[@GabrielHR55]

I was on a small shoot where they used an arri and I could immediately tell looking at the monitor I’m like wow… legit the “creaminess, the clarity, the contrast” it is a filmick look and it is definitely noticeable, not neccessary but I immediatley noticed.

[@MattLavergne4]

Back for an hour long DEEP DIVE with our favourite cine brand?? Absolutely yes please thank you for the Christmas gift Matti!! 🎁🎁 (Also big shoutout to the fine folks at Arri that I know worked on this as they're lovely people too!!)

[@TheTitanGen]

What a delight to wake up and see Matti has a video out about lenses. Missed your vids Matti!

[@youknowwithMartyKauffman]

Welcome back we’ve missed you

[@HaydenE.]

Missed you! Thank you for this banger

[@La_Volpa]

Christmas came early, welcome back Matti!

[@AbrahamTario]

Peter must have bought him a shirt 😉

[@WakeUpMatt]

Wooo!! Stoked to have you back!🤘🏼

[@alesh_machingal]

Man I really thankful for the video. Especially showing the enso primes... I'm someone who's still love with Nikkor noct vintage glasses. I am super curious abt enso

[@danielschmaderer]

So great to see a Matti video after so long. And it’s an hour. Came back swinging.

[@HuFilms]

Nice one Matti, great production on this vid. Please stick around, I missed your vibe on YT!

[@Rene_Arseneau]

Awh heck yeah you just made my day so much better! Happy to see you back!

[@YoungDecent1]

I’m shooting my first feature film. And I’m happy to use the gear I have no matter how big or small. 👏🎥

[@TristanWhite-Umlungu]

Never thought I would say this about any KZbinr! Missed you bro.!

[@Leada1ne]

Thoroughly enjoyed... welcome back 🫡

[@Dylanrudlaff]

Matti! You’re back! We missed you

[@saburtierney]

Bro I've never clicked faster! Mattis back!

[@justin555666]

Matti, it seems you emerged from the darkness along with Mariah Carey and Michael Buble to give us this amazing Christmas present! Seriously, thank you!

[@jlad5960]

You can all thank me that he’s back. I didn’t even know he left then just the other day I checked his channel and now he’s back. You’re welcome.

[@Ingemann.]

Honestly, I haven't been on KZbin as much as I did before your announcement last year, it felt like I lost a family member. So when I clicked on KZbin for once and the first thing that I see is Matti Haapoja posted an hour long video... My my did I press the video in a heartbeat.

[@tw06le1]

In every company there is a Matt, that's very quiet, unassuming & an absolute nerd about the details that makes the final product that much more special....

[@VictorJimenes1]

That comeback is legendary, thank you Matti.

[@ANRO_ANRO]

U can do anything with gm lenses and anamorphic Sirui and u dont have to spend 100k on cinema lenses..learn from the creator u can spend less than 5k and u can do cinema ready movies

[@ChildrenofThread]

Dude weren't the lenses used on that film crazy expensive though? Plus the budget of that movie was nowhere near indie. I genuinely hate what the commentary around that movie did to indie filmmakers

[@JosefFoti]

I've never seen this interesting talk on cinema lenses before! Totally worth watching although I knew (and still know) very close to nothing about this stuff 😄

[@TomxshawYT]

He’s back! Please keep the content coming!!

[@stefstar.]

Just realized that a year almost passed since you left. Holy. Good to see you man!

[@samvargasimages7905]

This felt like a Netflix series episode on just lenses and I ate it up like it was my lunch. Loved it 😩🙏🏽

[@philippscheithauer]

Not your biggest fan overall due to your overly ‘KZbinr style’ but definitely have to admit this video is a good watch. Great piece of content.

[@andrealeonechannel]

I missed you guy , welcome back !

[@AllenOlayiwola]

Hi Matt, I saw the video with Peter and ran it here! Welcome back

[@shawndlugozima]

Welcome back my dude. So happy

[@nadkarni.create]

Missed you so much on youtube... missing your daily vlogs where you would also show your son playing around.. miss those days man

[@stalman]

Those test shots are gorgeous

[@josephasghar]

Those Arri guys are great ambassadors for the brand. Fascinating and informative.

[@HeyThisIsAndrew]

This bigger question "Is Matti back!?"

[@largefamilyruralliving7434]

Watch the ending of Peter Mckinnon's last video

[@mike_s_media]

That was an hour??? Damn I need to watch it again because it went by too fast! Solid video man!!!

[@JRaahTV]

Welcome back, I’m glad you back.

[@Artfulscience1]

I think the difference isn’t as huge these days. 15 years ago, a 5d mark II and Canon L lens was as good as it got for a lot of little guys which was a far cry from an Arri Alexa original and even the cheapest cine lenses and heaven forbid a wireless focus unit. Now, for relatively the same price you can get a budget cine lens, raw 12 bit recording, 4K, Da Vinci resolve, gimbals, nucleus nano etc.

[@kytowrld]

So glad you made this video, super insightful.

[@John_Krone]

Incredible video Matti. Thanks for answering the one question I kept asking myself.

[@NoahBuehler]

So just a quick point I want to make about the ARRI 65. There is no difference in perspective or DoF or whatever look to something like the Alexa 35. The only reason it is very appealing, is because it the only way to get such a high resolution from a ARRI camera. (Which are pretty unique in terms of DR, color rendering etc.) If you do not care about resolution because you don't need it for VFX there is no real difference. (Provided that you use equivalent focal lengths and apertures.)

[@UraFlight]

Great content about Arri ! I did watched it from start to finish 😊