Installing Windows ME on an iMac

Yep, I have once again wrestled with Windows 9x to take it somewhere no one ever wanted it to go!
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[@Codricmon]

People often tell you to "pick your battles". Matt is the kind of person to pick battles nobody else would even think of.

[@iamboredfor2months]

True

[@Anonymous-db2de]

its still an upgrade...

[@fattestallenalive7148]

he's like, come up with the battles you want to pick for then pick *all of them*

[@Starcraft387]

DougDoug's slogan comes to mind: "Hey this is DougDoug, where we solve problems no one has" LOL

[@hoiioh-kn1eg]

Next thing we know is that Matt wil be running 8K 360fps VR on a 60 year old machine with Windows NT

[@babylonian]

0:28 whoa… i wonder where that is

[@pdlbackup]

I loved the video you made on it :)

[@sebawuba8533]

Your video was absolutely incredible as always

[@TomaszRyszkowski]

Wait, did you just randomly stumble across this video? That's pretty wild, anyways see ya on twitch!

[@AmirRazan]

OK... You were here. And yes, it is from Japan.

[@irridesu]

Thank you for the McDonald's training ROM

[@Endermanch]

Nice one, dude

[@andry6702]

hi enderman

[@datdot4450]

I agree. Really good video.

[@TeoV]

hello

[@typodoeseverything]

Didn't expect to find you here!

[@thescreemregular5168]

yes.

[@SalC1]

That thumbnail is just cursed.

[@nintendofan997]

What are you doing here salboi?

[@justarandomminecrafter9349]

wth u doing here sal

[@alexwilliams9516]

3rd reply

[@1MadJack1]

⠀

[@tobytoyota6936]

Nani uwu

[@joleman11]

can't wait for part 2, windows 2000 on a imac

[@Jenci]

+1, Windows 2000 can work on Firefox 52 ESR, perfectly browsing at all HTML5 pages stuff

[@AbdAbdAbdAbd]

@@Jenci HTML5 on windows 2000 sounds fun.

[@Jenci]

@@AbdAbdAbdAbd Yup, it's supported TLS 1.2 already on Firefox 52 ESR. Everything websites are fully functional working.

[@Povilaz]

How long until "Installing Windows 7 on a PS2"

[@fart1234.]

The best version of windows me on a imac

[@jasonlandry8685]

Retail versions of Windows ME were "expansion" or "upgrade" disks for Windows 98. The version you have (the non-bootable kind) were meant to upgrade from windows 95/98 to Windows ME. They had the full install on them, but were not meant to be used as a clean install CD.

[@ukozi]

What a completely pointless waste of time... I loved it.

[@UCWjF-rlGGWBHxEPLGJXZBoA]

Time traveler

[@DarkPlaysThings]

@@UCWjF-rlGGWBHxEPLGJXZBoA It's called being a patron

[@pugg5ter542]

Wtf it’s a time traveler

[@livtown]

What the actual weather

[@deliciouspops]

don't you call others mistakes a waste of time 😳

[@MeriaDuck]

This is what adding insult to injury looks like. Love it. And the ridiculous amount of effort to get it done, condensed in 18 minutes... you have some perseverance!

[@gp3328]

I love the druaga1 reference and I'm just gonna say if you have seen a 2007 imac in person you can easily tell it apart!

[@AsianFlex]

the difference to me is like i cant even say anything different

[@sriramsundar8388]

The black bezels are curved at the bottom, it has a thick chin and the display is little less wider cuz the display is of a 16:10 aspect ratio unlike the later iMacs which have aspect ratio of 16:9 Edit: The back of it is composed of black plastic and not aluminum unlike the later iMacs.

[@komidanohitouko]

I knew it wasn't just me tripping!

[@makurossu]

The Michealsoft Binbows joke at 0:28 hits different after the Nick Robinson video.

[@saifukh]

can you explain? I'm not sure what you're talking about

[@makurossu]

@@saifukh kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3XdcnSgr8eJa8k this video should explain it

[@tronicgo8873]

Gave you the 100th like for how relatable this is

[@v2joecr]

@@saifukh Michealsoft Binbows was actually a used computer shop in Japan. The video in question is titled '"MICHAELSOFT BINBOWS" isn't what you think it is' from channel "Nick Robinson".

[@HeadsetGuy]

"The CD driver didn't detect the CD drive, which I honestly somewhat expected." That is a sentence. That is definitely a sentence. _(edited on 2/9/2021 to correct a misquote)_

[@TheNathannator]

"The CD drive _r_ ", not CD drive twice -thanks YT formatting for not working if next to other characters-

[@HeadsetGuy]

@@TheNathannator Wow, you're right. Somehow I totally heard "drive" twice. My mistake.

[@erikdavidson4914]

The sentence didn't detect the sentence

[@typodoeseverything]

@@HeadsetGuy I would just make a quick edit to the comment if I were you. 🙂

[@HeadsetGuy]

@@typodoeseverything Just did. EDIT: Nice username. Very appropriate.

[@toonslul]

I love these videos so much. I appreciate how you don’t just show the results, but you also show the entire process.

[@rythmicness]

Next up: I Installed the xbox firmware on a nintendo ds

[@samuel-wankenobi]

Lol

[@gp3328]

The dsi can run windows 95. Technically.

[@linkthehero1234]

@@gp3328 in dosbox right? or some other pc emulator?

[@gp3328]

@@linkthehero1234 no, make a custom rom and install for the arm cpu

[@linkthehero1234]

@@gp3328 hmm interesting can you send me a link

[@ScreenSage_YT]

6:18 That's partially correct. MS-DOS 7 sits underneath Windows 95 and 98, while ME uses MS-DOS 8.

[@InnoVintage]

And Steve isn' angry, he's laughing his ass off, and more likely to be angry at apple's engineers than you.

[@bokexd3173]

Hahahhahhahaah

[@Simulation101YT]

hes dead

[@bokexd3173]

@@Simulation101YT he meant from heaven

[@Simulation101YT]

@@bokexd3173 Oh

[@andy5178]

Eh, it's not like you could install any DOS-based system... actually, not even 2000 on any "relatively modern" Intel CPU. I'm not even sure Coffee Lake runs XP.

[@lukecwolf]

I keep nodding my head at MattKc videos. Brings back the memories of old os models and gives me the sheer joy of seeing why anyone would do this.

[@Z4uberwuerfel]

At 5:47 I somehow read "BALLACHE" instead of "LBACACHE" and that describes this whole procedure pretty accurately.

[@surprisedpotato]

I have never heard the term ballache but even then ballache has been burnt into my vocabulary

[@DankLordDemaar]

...thanks, now I'll never be able to unsee the word BALLACHE

[@Riolupai]

this comment gives me ballache

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

I mean, describes using Windows Me too.

[@KINGBROOKZYlife]

nutz

[@Bleeding_Art]

him popping into frame at 3:40 scared the crap out of me, i thought there was someone behind me lmaooo

[@GGamerLiam]

1. Help

[@CoolmineGaming]

Microsoft: This is fine Apple: Unable to open software, please upgrade to macOS Big Sur

[@samuel-wankenobi]

That Mac can’t run big sur because it’s a older Mac

[@What_Zen]

@Stranger you don’t know then i will too, lol

[@KiraSlith]

@@samuel-wankenobi That's the joke.

[@CoolmineGaming]

@@samuel-wankenobi r/woosh

[@YitocukKilic]

open it? it wont even install it from the appstore lol

[@thecoffeesloth]

This vid is 3 years old but I enjoyed it immensely! Subbed 😊

[@DoctorDalek]

You could probably take the PCI-E slot that holds the AirPort card and adapt it to a full slot to plug in a USB controller that actually has drivers for 9x. It's also possible that if your model has a discrete GPU, it _might_ be replaceable with a different card that supports 9x. I'm not sure what socket it's using, but looking at ifixit's teardown, they mention it might be standard.

[@conorabc]

It's MXM

[@cleverlyblonde]

Lock was not part of MS-DOS 6.x, but it was part of DOS 7 (Win95/98) and DOS 8 (WinMe) to help protect long file names. You would typically just type "lock c:" thought to allow those "risky operations".

[@frostech3149]

Can't wait for another year of MattKC! Your videos always bring me a smile!

[@nurci67]

“This thing is so reflective I could probably do a makeup tutorial on it” *flashbacks to ultimate Windows 98 PC part 1*

[@Speedster04_BRA]

WAIT THATS NOT ROYALTY-FREE

[@_______DR_______]

Everytime I get a MattKC upload notification on my phone I immediately drop everything I'm doing to watch it. This has already resulted in me crashing 2 cars and ditching half way through an important job interview #noregrets

[@aeleequis]

Hell yeah, I was waiting for a new video. Thank you 🙏

[@MSteamCSM]

16:38 Oh, that graph! I nearly chocked from laughing when i saw it=))

[@phs125]

Where would you put XP in it tho?

[@anthonygarcia5375]

@@phs125 ok so XP to binary is 01011000 01010000 and convert that to decimal And you get 88 80 so XP is 168 if you add them together or 7040 if you multiply

[@kevinradtke3767]

When I was a kid my brothers and I got my dad's old computer, running windows ME. So many good memories.

[@sweetspotendurance]

I love it dude! Seems like your audio quality has improved?

[@davidhanshorts]

22 hours ago?

[@lolcat]

@@davidhanshorts video must've been uploaded a while ago for patrons or something

[@gp3328]

Blue yeti I think, and he might have switched editors

[@xexpaguette]

@@lolcat yep, check the description "Support on patreon to get videos like this early"

[@SanjaSleipnir]

“Something you’ve probably been screaming at me through the screen” No, I only understand roughly 5% of what you’re saying and I love it

[@Speedster04_BRA]

HAHA exactly...

[@Speedster04_BRA]

I was like "Linux? That's Ubuntu! Linux is for PS2s!"

[@Beppe-cd3co]

2:55 *3D Objects, seems legit*

[@extremegrief1525]

lmao hello beppe

[@Beppe-cd3co]

@@extremegrief1525 hi

[@Peremptor]

I remember ME being unstable and wonky back in the day. Made XP look all that much better.

[@LonelyMarowak]

I see you still have that NSYNCified Windows 98 machine. 😂 Great video, nonetheless! Really interesting stuff, as usual!

[@heyisleo]

Wait, I think I'm hearing one of those lovely keygen songs around 5:30 ... Ah, those golden years

[@AxolotlAndy]

"The CD drive didn't detect the CD drive." Yeah I don't think that's a good signal.

[@interlamer7480]

the first "drive" is actually "driver" if you listen closer.

[@AxolotlAndy]

@@interlamer7480 calla peruano

[@NCommander]

so, adding a bit here. WIndows uses int13h in real mode to access the HDD. msconfig can force that (it's Force ocompatibility mode disk access) which might be making the difference TBH. PS/2 devices are emulated through the use of System Management Mode, and as long as something is polling the fake PS/2 port, it should still be sending events. Modular Windows (aka SETUP.EXE) is likely also using 32-bit disk access which is why that's falling over as well. Dunno if you tried that, but if I had an iMac, I'd poke this. Apple's BIOS compatibility was pretty garbage all around, it was just enough to start NTLDR, and I remember GRUB had to patch some things to make Linux work on Macs.

[@jsbarretto]

This was great fun to watch, looking forward to more bizarre installation videos. What next: MS-DOS on your cat's neocortex?

[@flp322]

"This thing is so reflective I could probably do a makeup tutorial on it" You know we need it, Matt. Also, did you know Microsoft actually intended it to be pronounced 'Me' (1 word) rather than 'Em-Ee'? Yeah, neither did 90% of Me users.

[@90sNath]

So my "incorrect" pronunciation of Windows Me when I was a kid was correct this whole time?

[@nitelite2850]

I’ve never clicked a notification so fast in my life

[@pedrohenrriquesantos4836]

What’s that on your hands?

[@nitelite2850]

@@pedrohenrriquesantos4836 uhhhh that’s classified

[@nitelite2850]

@@pedrohenrriquesantos4836 oh and that’s a stock image btw it’s not my hand

[@Watkincuk]

"So dude what computer do you use?" "iMac Millenium Edition"

[@LisaMiza]

You're such a nerd xD Love it! just a tip: May want to increase the saturation of the "me" in the thumbnail, was a bit hard to see for me at least :)

[@poble]

it looks fine to me

[@ZipplyZane]

My instinct would be to check if (1) drivers for older Nvidia devices might work and (2) see if anyone has made a universal driver. Then, if I was really dedicated, I might try to find a USB to keyboard PS/2 active adapter that worked with Windows ME. And then try actually using a PS/2 keyboard or mouse, depending on which was available. Also could try a USB COM port adapter. (I'm assuming you messed around with the Kernelex settings to try and get it to think that it was Windows 2000.)

[@DarkPlaysThings]

MattKC videos are what I live for nowadays

[@alexzeller8774]

2:30 BEST STARTUP SOUND!

[@rayray117]

He makes videos like once a year but when he does. Oh boy Is it worth it lol love the videos!!

[@WubwubDJ]

The amount of backwards troubleshooting is amazing. It's my style

[@qpol]

windows: seems like this app won’t work, but we can run it in windows XP mode to fix it apple: this app won’t work. ever. don’t even try.

[@HalfLife3onSteamPLZ]

me: smashes the mac brutally using a hydrant apple: ...

[@AxolotlAndy]

The macOS experience goes from "Dang, this is smooth" to B I T E M E. No in-between.

[@bartekpekala77]

It's getting dark. I'm laying comfortably in my bed watching you install ME on an iMac and then... I'm almost getting a heart attack as I think there is someone standing right behind me. Turns out it was your reflection on the iMac screen all the time... thanks.

[@StormBurnX]

6:34 "Congrulations!" I can't tell if this is chingrish or not but either way it's hilarious

[@JetSetDman]

dude the nostalgia hit so fucking hard when i heard Reloaded Installer #9 kick in at 5:00

[@nogoat]

1:21 RIP Steve Jobs.

[@AbdullaSulaimani]

Really nostalgic seeing that Windows Millennium startup menu. It brings back a lot of memories for me.

[@TheOriginalCollectorA1303]

Ah yes, my favorite version of MS-DOS, 7.10.

[@lepidotos]

my win98 install is fucked and i use it all the time

[@Mikadott]

Polarization filter for the camera lens will help eliminate reflections

[@vcollapse]

You could have probably used a remote desktop / VNC solution to use the machine. An old version of synergy might have worked too.

[@人生は痛み]

2:14 Oh My God why is the disc so BEAUTIFUL

[@CocoaEm]

Matt did you just think you could take a clip of the druaga1 macbook running xp without any noticing? Think again.

[@CocoaEm]

@@Miguel-gr9js it's a joke.....

[@YEWCHENGYINMoe]

3:00 3D OBJECTS!?!?!!!?!?!

[@Jsrrf]

I’m a simple person, I see MattKC notification, I click.

[@MrCbjensen1]

Omg that screensaver!!! 👌. Such nostalgia

[@chunkyg6715]

Reminds me of that scene where Bean replaced Whistler’s Mother with his own drawing. I remember running Windows ME in the early 2000’s and it used to blue screen multiple times a day along with other problems on the hardware it was actually created to run on. A clean re-install every month resolved some issues but doing so meant having to remove every stick of RAM but one and then replacing all 512MB when done. I’m surprised the abomination you created worked at all. Quoting Victor Frankenstein "It’s Alive".

[@Benzona]

I'd like to see this attempted with Windows 2000, which is a lot closer to XP so it might have better results

[@SPTSuperSprinter156]

this and it's not a shit OS...

[@burnedoils]

brilliant work, and its good that u show times where u failed, because thats life, no one ever always succeed

[@gabipislaru3072]

7:19 Windows Mistake Edition Setup

[@svasianfilipiname6603]

Lol awwwww that baby on the thumbnail is THEE cutest baby (one of them really) that I have EVER seen!!

[@counter18591]

I'm surprised you didn't try putting stuff in the Autostart folder to get it to run outside of safe mode

[@freddislettis9835]

I've watched this video 6 times but it's so interesting.

[@thndr_5468]

0:12 that was hilarious

[@alexandru456]

You’re a true genius! I love your work ❤️

[@GrebnevNikita]

It's like watching an episode of House MD minus the drama. Basically, a man trying to solve an obsucre, rare problem that will never occur to anyone in the audience.

[@mkrichey1]

I was shocked you wanted to try .... I was more shocked you stuck with it lol Loved it!

[@mustafaomarYT]

4:09 you do the middle finger

[@DeetexSeraphine]

oooh, that spikey warping sphere screensaver brings up some strong nostalgia for me.

[@DeetexSeraphine]

Curious now, does RDP exist in ME?

[@AMGaming4523-GAME]

i’ve never heard of something so beautifuly stupid in my whole entire life

[@hereticyes1380]

You should check druaga1, he was the pioneer on those sorts of things.

[@EvexiansVideoworks]

3:28 That…. Explains a lot…. No wonder i could not boot Windows 7 off of USB with my mac.

[@seanbrisson7928]

well 2:03 i nfact if you install win 10 on an Hard drive, swap that HardRive inside the mac, it should boot windows, granted there is no driver support but it boots... So if you just dd if=/WindowsHDD/ of=/MacOsHDD/ you can get windows on your mac Whitout actually swapping any hard drive. Aditionally you can dd if=/MacosHDD/ of=/Externalhdd/ | and proceed to Boot MacOS in a Virtual Machine from any other Machine/OS

[@LAkadian]

I have waited a third of my life for this kind of lovely chaos. 😍

[@pewdiefanno19]

4:09 , true, is like a mirror, that is transparent

[@dannybrennan31]

The perfect level of satisfaction and frustration where it works well enough to say it works but not well enough to really do anything

[@qpol]

it’s not a mattkc video if there isn’t a catch somewhere

[@ThePolandball]

Subscribed solely for the based Billy Mays reference. Oh, and the amazing Lego Island content. Keep it up!!

[@SirSans842]

7:30 I’m gonna end this man’s whole career

[@SirSans842]

He even says it’s ture

[@Pupp3tCl0wn]

Ah, i remember my highschool. Intel iMacs G5 512MB RAM with installed Linux Mint on which was running Virtual Machine with Windows XP. Brilliant user experience

[@Velestar]

At 4:33, I saw a reflection of someone putting up their middle finger.

[@mrt1r]

That is wild, I just picked up a mid 2007 iMac off of Craigslist for like $40 and I was looking for something to do with it. I'm going to put Windows 98 on it.

[@hankai7]

12:08 when you switch to light mode

[@haxhxm841]

That screensaver reminds me of fishing frenzy

[@samritshamritintentions]

0:18 is funny with Micaelsoft Bobbows

[@aryanswiichannel4667]

I come back to this video once every few months

[@JackIsYouTube]

0:54 baby gamer

[@olivergoldvalente]

Super cool video. That virtual machine through the fire wire cable blew my mind!

[@jamesyoung6878]

1:29 is that the kogan rgb mechanical gaming keyboard?

[@tmei5720]

this makes me question my existence everynight. Subscribed

[@inactiveytchannel]

Best thing to come out of windows me is it's anime character. No kidding, that exists

[@LonelySpaceDetective]

Fun fact: Windows 7 and Internet Explorer both had official anime girl versions of them.

[@inactiveytchannel]

@@LonelySpaceDetective windows 8 and 10 too

[@haxxiDoesRandomStuff]

I Always watched this video and going "What in the name of Steve jobs going on here" and now I'm doing it in my repair shop every day

[@Alexisadingus]

AH, FINALLY A PERFECT PC FOR A HORRIBLE OPERATING SYSTEM

[@auto1lija]

It isn't as horrible as people think.

[@ps5hasnogames55]

@@auto1lija Yeah it is. It's truly far less stable than Windows 98 ever was (and Windows 9x was already an unstable mess compared to Windows NT) and the few new features it included, such as Windows Movie Maker and System Restore, just weren't enough to justify using it over Windows 98. All the other "new" features of Windows Me such as Internet Explorer 5.5 and Windows Media Player 7 were released for Windows 98 anyway via Windows Update. Windows Me had a very short development time and was intended as a quick stop-gap release between Windows 98 Second Edition and Windows XP for home users and that much is fairly obvious.

[@auto1lija]

@@ps5hasnogames55 Nope

[@auto1lija]

@@ps5hasnogames55 the marketing claim of using Windows 98 drivers was bad, because it messed up the OS badly. It's overall just a fine OS.

[@ps5hasnogames55]

@@auto1lija It is true that computer manufacturers are partly to blame due to them not writing drivers specifically for Windows Me, however Microsoft still did not test Windows Me nearly as much as they did all previous, and future, versions of Windows. As I mentioned before, Windows Me only had a very short development time of about a year from start to finish - that's including the time to beta test it, and it was only intended as a short stop-gap between Windows 98 and Windows XP for home users. Because Windows Me was essentially just Windows 98 Third Edition, and it removed more than it added (real-mode DOS support being the biggest example) and often ran slower than Windows 98, most users just stuck with Windows 98 and those who bought a new computer with Windows Me pre-installed usually just installed Windows 98 on their computer anyway so they could use games and applications that required real-mode DOS.

[@NSHG]

I have a very strong feeling MattKC either wasn't told about it, or he knows, that the OGXbox can run 98SE through XDSL. I'd advise at least an ASUS ATA133 cable be installed in the Xbox before attempting to load it though. (due to being the fastest cable I've seen to work on the OGXbox) Oh, and if you're brave enough, a 128MB upgrade won't hurt.

[@victorfigueroa9385]

Windows 2000 should work just fine, even with 3D Acceleration.

[@johnspangle6619]

I got Windows 2000 Professional up and running on my 2008 MacBook (with the NVIDIA GeForce 9400M). Runs just fine!

[@victorfigueroa9385]

@@johnspangle6619 How, think you could help me?

[@johnspangle6619]

@@victorfigueroa9385 Sure; I'll try! How old is the Mac? What's the model? Do you have your Mac OS installation disc? Trying to track down working, compatible drivers could be troublesome (WiFi being a big one).

[@victorfigueroa9385]

@@johnspangle6619 I have a Mid 2009 iMac, Nvidia Chipset, with broadcom WiFi. Nvidia SATA should be a breeze to find, that would really be all I need, SATA functionality is a priority.

[@johnspangle6619]

@@victorfigueroa9385 My 2008 MacBook is SATA based and W2K didn't seem to complain about it at all during setup and even afterwards. Will this be installed on a hard drive bigger than 137GB (I would assume so but you never know sometimes)? If so, you'll need to unpack your W2K ISO or copy the files from the disc in order to modify the SETUPREG. HIV to enable 48-bit LBA. Use regedit and unpack the hive to add this in: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SYSTEM\ CurrentControlSet\ Services\ atapi\ Parameters] "EnableBigLba"=dword:00000001 ^You shouldn't have to do that if you have the unofficial service pack 5.1 slipstreamed into your ISO or disc of W2K.

[@coolbrotherf127]

This reminds me of a project where I worked to get Warframe to boot on my MacBook just to see if it would. Granted, it only ran at like 10fps, but did technically work.

MY COMPUTER ACTUALLY BLUESCREENED AT 3:33 AND I THOUGHT IT WAS PART OF THE VIDEO WHAT TYPE OF COINCIDENCE LMFAO