2017 Street Glide Special (FLHXS)Test Ride/Review │Milwaukee 8 First Ride Impressions

My first Ride on the Milwaukee 8 Engine just released in the 2017 Model year. Ridden on the 2017 Street Glide Special FLHXS. Details about the bike and some purchasing advise if this bike is right for you.
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[@michellandry714]

Hi Matt, just to say that I am in sales myself. Car sales actually. But watching many of your videos, I am simply impress with your knowledge and genuiness. I appreciate it and value it. keep up the great work!

[@alfredjones5088]

One of the best reviews I've seen on a 2017 Street Glide thank you.

[@jasonharden2732]

So many questions answered by this vid, thanks man. I encourage all HD enthusiasts to go look at these new engines. I was left pleasantly shocked at all the changes.

[@bencartwright9359]

Thank you for taking the time to put this video together. It seems like I only have to decide which color to go with now...

[@thano40]

Great review,I love the simplicity of Harley-Davidsons.Ifeel when I take one out on a ride it will connect with me, demo day's are coming up in my area and I will definitely try both the STREET and ROAD GLIDES to prove my point that a Harley connects a lot with the rider.Keep up the great work!

[@stephenwilson2504]

You give the best Harley reviews. Thank you and keep up the good work.

[@ricksgs6130]

Thanks for the video just purchased the 2017 street glide special love it !!!

[@onlyhereonce7290]

I like how the intro section of the video is more involved and exciting. Good job on that. Imho it could be about 2 seconds shorter though. It seems to drag on at the end. Ok. A solid review of the SGS Matt. And a clear game plan. You stated what you were going to include in your video. And you did that admirably. Your video was fun to watch. And you really knocked it out of the park with this latest video. Much improved. You got this Matt. 😎

[@MattLaidlaw]

Thanks Richard. I also appreciate your honest opinion about the intro. Thanks for the positive feedback about the video too.

[@jasonbreedlove495]

Thanks Matt, I ended up trading my 16 Ultra for a 17 SGS after a demo. Smooth motor, and alot less heat in traffic. Great vids.

[@techrocker.13]

Thank's for the review. Nice video!! Sick looking graphic's you added in the beginning of your videos. I was going to your demo riding today, but my knee is acting up. Need to stay off it.

[@Mac1968ish]

Great video Matt I'm looking at few different types of harley's for my next purchase and your videos are always very informative keep up the great work. I love to see a video on your helmet set up for your motovlog some time in the future. Thanks again.

[@-MrRichBiker1967]

Very knowledgeable young lad!!I enjoy your reviews!

[@herwandani3923]

never bored matt to watch every ur video ,thank you

[@MattLaidlaw]

herwan danie Thank you

[@herwandani3923]

my pleasure sir , amazing bike you have

[@mchristr]

Thanks, Matt. Your road tests are always pretty thorough. Hopefully you can take a 2017 on a longer trip and see how it fares.

[@MattLaidlaw]

Yea. I'll be doing some road trips in the future etc.

[@fedricoekkelenkamp5384]

I made a test ride on a street glide special, no vibrations in the handlebar and steps.Very good sound with the open airfilter and screamin eagle.mufflers. very good torque . Ilike the idle speed 850 rpm. But i still love my 2016 low-rider-s i bought this year.

[@Jinbrge]

Great review. Looking forward to seeing review on Road King.

[@TimothyT230]

Hey Matt. Any major differences between the 2017 and 2018 other than the cosmetic changes ?

[@glennrueger8689]

Really good vids. I'm also down for the Road King next.

[@geoffh784]

Great review, I'd like to see you ride a Road King next if that's possible.

[@frankfilippone6738]

YOU DO THE BEST REVIEWS ON THE TUBE !!

[@MattLaidlaw]

frank filippone thank you!

[@exracer2002]

Great video Matt..thumbs up

[@mas3292]

Great Job Matt!

[@mostdope3459]

Think I'm gonna have to get one in a few years. Haven't rode much these past years but I wanna get back into riding soon.

[@vikingoutlaw9]

Great entertaining video and very informative 👍🏻

[@FXDLSBrooklyn]

Great review, thanks man!

[@kojigray]

Hey Matt, I have a 2017 Street Glide Special and the fuel gauge keeps getting suck at the half may mark. I haven't done any modification to it all stock. Have you had any problems with this? Thanks

[@TheStratfanatic]

Well you done it now. You and Smoak got me interested, and Harley infected me to the bone. Damn test ride...Bought a new 2017 SGS today, and I blame you two...Thanks. Keep up the good work cause I got to break this thing in. oh and get the goodies installed. Rubber side down brother...

[@MattLaidlaw]

TheStratfanatic congrats man. Sorry to have tempted you.

[@TheStratfanatic]

Don't be it was time to move on my 07 Dyna Wide Glide was a goodie but this one is the bomb....I smell road trips soon

[@joejackson9546]

Very good review, a lot of information. Thanks

[@MattLaidlaw]

Thanks for watching

[@mattb3283]

I have this bike..bought it used with low mileage..I have cobra true duels on it which sound amazing..plenty of raaapppp.when you grab a big handful..replaced stock air intake with arlen ness super sucker .but that's all I did and with 32,000 miles on her she flys threw the river hills here in Pennsylvania.. love this bike.

[@mallen1846]

Lots of good info, thanks for sharing

[@bikerworld2471]

Nice review. Thank you for sharing. would love to hear about the new FLHTKL. was the leaning angle part of the changes too?

[@MattLaidlaw]

The lean angle hasn't Really changed since 2009. I'll do a Review on the FLHTKL.

[@jeffzook1294]

Great review. Please do the 114 next!

[@mentalclear]

My vote is for Road Glide for the next review :)

[@stewartsaunders7703]

Ultra Limited CVO next please. haha. Awesome video and bike! Ok got to go back to work and stop dreaming.

[@zohaibanwar9178]

Great review!

[@MattLaidlaw]

Thanks for watching.

[@joejackson9546]

What a beautiful bike.

[@fabioalibrandi]

Hello, sorry I wanted to ask you but the steering of this Street is true that driving it becomes heavy, hard, and to drive it is better the Road Glide? Since I would like to buy it I like it so much preferring the engine 107, but a friend of mine told me that the same engine gave problems. Thank you for your ✌🏻 availability

[@aaronmccloy87]

Hey Matt I love your reviews. In my opinion they are the most informative on you tube. I was wondering if you could answer a question. I just bought a 2017 SGS and noticed once in a while when I go over a bump in the road the front end feels kind of loose. I notice it on slower speeds. This is the only Street Glide I have ever rode as I am coming off a sport bike so don't know if this is normal.

[@MattLaidlaw]

Aaron McCloy that doesn't sound right. Check your steering head bearing , tire pressure, and wheel bearing.

[@aaronmccloy87]

Thanks for getting back to me Matt. Keep making those great reviews. I know if I lived in the L.A. area I would be a Laidlaw customer. 😄👍

[@DevilCruz13]

I like the 1st gear Harley "clank" lol

[@Balisong005]

Matt, at this point in the year (april) would you grab a 2017 or wait for the 2018's? i currently have a bike, so no rush. looking to grab a black denim sgs.

[@MattLaidlaw]

Balisong005 Well, it will have the same engine so there won't be an upgrade there. I really don't know if anything will change next year man.

[@FrankTheGonzalez]

Beautiful, my dream bike, one day

[@MrMomentman]

Hey Matt love the videos. I just bought a 2017 street glide and it is my first Harley ever. I hear a fair amount of valvetrain noise under load that increases as rpms increase. Would you say this is normal?....

[@MattLaidlaw]

To a certain extent - yes. Generally speaking HD's have considerably more engine mechanical noise than other makes. They did, however, reduce this with the new Milwaukee 8. If you're at all concerned have a dealer take a look at it while it's still under warranty. It's probably fine though.

[@geeman1492]

Matt love your vlogs , any inside info on new Harley colors for 2018 in the market for a Street Glide , any chance of charcoal pearl of big blue pearl coming back?

[@MattLaidlaw]

Gary Wilson Thank you. Sorry my friend you'll have to wait.

[@road_king_dude]

Great review Matt. I know you did a video recently on your own personal bike. Are the 107's enough for you to consider updating to a 2017???

[@MattLaidlaw]

That's a good question. I think I'm going to build a dyna next, I might wait till the engine comes out on a dyna then buy one. It's painful to get rid of my bike though. I seriously built my dream bike.

[@CactusJack252]

Buy a second bike and keep the street glide

[@MattLaidlaw]

I definitely wish I could justify and afford two bikes.

[@CactusJack252]

I understand.

[@MattLaidlaw]

wq1299 I know man it's pathetic. I'm getting another bike soon. My grandfather started the dealer - I just work there 👍🏻

[@usmc5833]

I really want one of those jackets !, where can i find one ? haven't seen one down here in Orlando H-D dealerships. Thanks.

[@El-Diablo-ArmyVeteran-409]

Could you do a review on 2017 Tri Glide Ultra. Thanks

[@frankfilippone6738]

LOVE IT !

[@ml414skidoo]

Great new intro. Have found that slipping your cell phone in your jeans back pocket while recording audio with an app like Rode Record le will capture the exhaust note well. Then sync with the GoPro video. Great video, very well done.

[@PhatboyHD88]

The thing i dont understand is , i have a 2010 streetglide with the 103 kit with the 550 lift cams and vance and hines 2-1 pipe and it dyno'd at 91 hp and 111 ft pounds of torque ,, so i dont understand why all the big to to about the milwalkee 8 engine,,, its really no bog deal as far as HP goes,,,

[@ROADKING88]

NO , buts it's a great bike for a 70+ year old Vet with short legs :)

[@kylemoore9626]

PhatboyHD88 peak power is only part of the story. The 107 makes way way more torque down low. Power under the curve is what you want in a cruiser not peak power.

[@CarlosFernandez-qk6uh]

Do you know if they will be making major changes to the Streetbob and are going to do a review on it?

[@MattLaidlaw]

They didn't change it in 2017.

[@bradmacdowell6583]

Hey Matt, I have a super dumb question I'm sure. I've ridden and owned plenty of bikes, none with a front fairing like the batwing. I'm looking to rent a SG for a 3 day trip coming up. If you had to guess, would someone who is 5'9" be able to see over the fairing relatively easily? Is this even an issue? I want to just sit on one to see but haven't had the chance yet. Thanks.

[@MattLaidlaw]

It won’t be an issue. Some people have this weird need to be able to see directly in front of them which is unnecessary. I know people shorter than you that ride them just fine.

[@matthewborder4382]

Hey Matt, not to take away from your review of this bike, but can you tell me what bike you ride past right as you start pulling out of the lot? The green one you can see from about 4:11-4:33.... Thanks for doing all these videos, I especially appreciate your prospective as I'm in the market for a bike and am 6'8" tall.

[@MattLaidlaw]

I'm pretty sure that's a Yamaha Striker.

[@matthewborder4382]

+zeallistic yeah, looks like you're right..... I really wish they would do the lowrider s in olive gold, but I can live with the black for a while. Any other bikes you would recommend I try out? I sat on a few bikes and the lowrider seemed to fit me the best, but it'll need taller bars.

[@MattLaidlaw]

Fatbob. It's the most underrated Bike that Harley has. Just test ride it.

[@Neocleese]

So Matt would you trade in your Glide for the new one? I have a 2015 Street Glide Special and am wondering if I should trade it in for the new one.

[@pballzrican]

i have the same bike and i will not trade it in for the new. if anything you can just get the new S&S conversion to 106.

[@stevemack389sm]

y does the 2017 street glide front forks look like it's almost a straight down 90degrees angle where the front tire looks like it's almost in the engine or it must be in your GoPro I don't know but I always wanted to Streetlight I'm on the Street Glide Special but I want it in that beautiful gunmetal Grey not the black but anyway it's beautiful it's gorgeous and I knew when I seen that 107 Waukee I really would like that 114 Milwaukee and see what that does because you can even here but ever so slightly the difference in the rumble of the motor even though it's not with the 1:07 on it anyway it's gorgeous and I love it I always will but I can't afford it so I'm really fighting over right now and the Breakout and the V-Rod Muscle or Night Rod muscle.... Basically I love the 240 rear tire and the bigger engine obviously and the oil cooling system anyway thanks for putting out a very great video on the street like I love him I love the new Milwaukee 8 and I can't wait to get on one and take it home!.... Thanks again

[@CenobiteBeldar]

With these new engine internal modifications and new completely redesigned exhaust, is it possible to upgrade the exhaust for the traditional Harley exhaust sound?

[@MattLaidlaw]

Jason Lurf yes, the Milwaukee 8 still has the traditional Harley-Davidson sound. A lot of after market exhaust companies are either just releasing or working on designing new exhaust systems that will fit the new engine. These systems will retain that classic Harley Davidson sound

[@jeremypadilla8241]

Matt Laidlaw, any comments or personal opinions on what full system exhaust to put on the m8 engine. Just bought a new 17 sgs and, love the bike just desperately needs pipes.

[@simmon81au]

Another awesome review! I heard a rumour that they're going to stop production of the Vrod. Do you know if this is true?

[@MattLaidlaw]

Yes it's true. October they are stopping production.

[@simmon81au]

They're such a popular bike here in Australia. Do you think they're going to replace it with something new?

[@MattLaidlaw]

It's hard to say. I don't know. Internationally they might still make them. I just know what I said is true for atleast North America.

[@tsav6952]

Odd HD includes LED headlight on Road Glide special but not the Street Glide special.

[@phillipellington2966]

Can you start this Bike (2014 Street Glide Special) in first gear ? or do You have to put the bike in neutral before it starts? I recently had my rear wheel replaced and I thought I stated my bike in first gear. But when I tried to start it, nothing...The flashers (Hazard lights came on along with the infotainment system. Then I put the bike in neutral and it started. Thanks !

[@MattLaidlaw]

Phillip Ellington It's possible to start it in first with the clutch pulled in. I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS. It's a lot harder on your starter motor. If the flashers were going off then that is a security fob issue.

[@phillipellington2966]

Thanks !! I read in the owner's manual to start in neutral. But before I had the service replacing my rear tire. I was able to start in first gear. Nevertheless, I'll follow the owner's manual instructions. Heck ! it makes sense "Safety" Thanks for responding and keep up the fantastic work on posting these awesome videos on You Tube. ~Cheers

[@cavscout62]

I can’t believe such an intelligent young man says rpm’s! It’s RPM. C’mon Matt, get it together man.😎

[@randallderby9147]

Great info. Can you ride a Road King next time? Thanks.

[@MattLaidlaw]

Yea I will very soon.

[@HolyBibleOpen]

interested in the white paint job in this model. nice.

[@MattLaidlaw]

Crushed ice pearl is nice

[@HolyBibleOpen]

+zeallistic Yes and Harley has many options like the white dashboard and extended side covers. can have the engine built to 117 with warrant. 100 pounds lighter than my 2015 cvo. Add carbon fiber wheels with ceramic breaks and bearings. Lord willing, my next build. love your videos.

[@HolyBibleOpen]

+Arturo Meuniot warranty. spell check bugs me.

[@detroitbluesguy]

Does it have a counterbalanced engine?

[@kaosf]

In Taiwan, this beauty costs NT 1,540,000. =USD $51,000. Pretty expensive outside of US.

[@Dave23547]

How does it handle in the wind? Is the fairing aerodynamic?

[@MattLaidlaw]

It handles great in the wind. Countless hours in the wind tunnel went into the new design of the "batwing" fairing.

[@ernestlcolemanjr]

Info on the jacket please!

[@scootjockey]

Thanx for the video, good info (ref) Muffler,,....Just a question i thought 55mph was the limit in the USA?

[@techrocker.13]

It's 65 mph here in California on freeways. It's 55 mph on highway and or if pulling a trailer, like big rigs they can only go up to 55 mph.

[@scootjockey]

thanx for the answer.

[@scotttyyy442]

It is 75 in Colorado.

[@scootjockey]

70mph in England on the motorway,s in Germany open for what you,ve got in some places.

[@CactusJack252]

I'd like to see you ride a Road King. I have always like those bikes. You don't see to many of them on the road now.

[@MattLaidlaw]

I'll definitely be doing the RoadKing

[@willthackway9]

How much would this bike be

[@claudesaint17]

I love your helmet and your jacket. We can can I get them?

[@stevemack389sm]

can u ride the all new breakout???? or the night rod muscle??? please!...….

[@MattLaidlaw]

Yea, I'll be doing both but it may take a little while for me to get to both.

[@jamesschrom317]

No more pinstriping in the paint for the Street Glide Specials? I can't make up my mind between a 2016 Rushmore or the 2017 M8. Take off the gas tank to change spark plugs. Really?

[@stevemack389sm]

oh okay I see now at the end of the video here when you started it up so that we can hear the motor and you got up real close to it and I don't I was able to see the actual angle of the forks and I love the 19 inch front wheel!... And I love the way this bike sounds naturally the new Milwaukee it sounds like you don't even need to put any exhaust performance pipe for manifold or performance system because it sounds very you just beautiful it's fucking gorgeous as bad as its top-notch I love it!... God I want you so bad!..

[@MattLaidlaw]

Hah. You can't go wrong with a StreetGlide.

[@stevemack389sm]

zeallistic I know I love the street glide!!! WITH a stage 3 kit on it With wide Vans and Hines short pipe's!!!!

[@MattLaidlaw]

Yup, great setup

[@stevenburnham7081]

nice bike. they finally caught up to yamaha-my 2004 road star has 4 valves-2 plugs per cylinder(102cubic inch) and runs like a raped ape. however I'm quite sure the harley suspension is much more refined

[@tim285401]

I would like to see a review on the ultra limited and Road Glide Ultra, but it has to be done by "Old Dirty Biker".....lol

[@HarleyBreakoutGuy]

I want to buy this bike and the 2017 Night Rod Special :) i wish i had money :(

[@MrRobeva]

No pinstripe on the special anymore?

[@MattLaidlaw]

I forgot to mention that. No, no pin stripe on the special now.

[@brianfisher3774]

How tall are you and 2 can a guy like me who is 5'8" can I ride SGS or is it for taller guy

[@pballzrican]

you can ride the street glide.youll prob be on your tippy toes but you can just get a new seat to lower the height

[@coleifland6922]

I am 5'8" and have put 18k miles on my Street Glide and had zero issues with my height.

[@DevilCruz13]

You should have no problem. I'm 5'6" and I love my Street Glide Special. I put a set of Xotic Custom shocks on but I only lower it down if I have to scoot the bike around when Im parking

[@alireza_ullah]

DevilCruz13 what other mods did you make to the bike to fit your height?

[@elithegreat6463]

Dude, you Dont have the Twin-cooling on the Street Glide/Road Glide....Part water cooled variants are in the Ultra & Trike...the 107 also carries 1.2 a Qt more of oil, and larger oil cooler in front, this is what makes it cooler

[@elithegreat6463]

1/2 quart more

[@MattLaidlaw]

Exactly.

[@MattLaidlaw]

You say that as if I said something different

[@elithegreat6463]

My apologies, having a video on my apple TV, and a lap top turned into a cluster Fuck of noise confusion....be that as it may, this Engine is going to be amazing in the Dyna bikes when they show up in them.

[@Dinoxt12]

Put some on some Rinehart Exhaust...Please

[@MattLaidlaw]

Rinehart doesnt have an exhaust that fits the new 2017's yet.

[@vindzl07]

how would a beginner do on this bike?

[@MattLaidlaw]

vindzl07 he would struggle.

[@vindzl07]

Matt Laidlaw elaborate please.

[@MattLaidlaw]

vindzl07 It's a heavy cruiser that has a taller seat height. A big heavy bike isn't good for beginner riders. Plus if you drop it (which all beginners do) you'll be out thousands of dollars due to the damage. Plus good luck picking up the bike if your not really strong. Just not a beginner motorcycle.

[@pballzrican]

what helmet is that?

[@MattLaidlaw]

Simpson outlaw bandit

[@pballzrican]

ouch its 400 dollars good lord lol. I'm still going to purchase i need a full face for the long rides. thx for the help brother

[@MattLaidlaw]

no prob

[@savagecabbage1594]

What bike at 1:25?

[@MattLaidlaw]

Make America Great Again Dyna Streetbob.

[@adloney]

Road king for next review

[@MattLaidlaw]

I'll be doing the Road King within a week or so.

[@kevincarter5854]

I noticed you said other brands copy HD on some things, I never hear HD people say when HD copys others ? the 4 valve single cam and counter ballanced motor was brought out in 1999 buy Yamaha and it was the bullet proff Roadstar 1602 cc and also now on the Roadliner and Stratoliner 1900 cc motors and they are all of that you say this M8 is and yes HD knew those motors

[@MattLaidlaw]

So, Harley had a 4 valve head before any of those companies even existed.

[@kevincarter5854]

no not a 4 valve counter ballanced single cam FI motor, no way and you know as well as I do they watch the others to see whats working and not to mention no heating problems from the Yamahas, no need for watered heads and you know I'm right dude

[@MattLaidlaw]

Right about what? Yes, everyone takes notice of each other. Yamaha Vstars try so desperately to copy the look sound and feel of a Harley. Is the 4 valve head a new innovation of course not. Fuel injection is nothing new. Single cam is nothing new, counter balancer are nothing new. It's the combination and design of different configurations that make something new, the quality and how all the moving parts interact with each other. There are so many things that make the Harley engine unique to anything else. Single connecting rod pin, 45 degree angle, off set firing, etc.

[@gghostrrider]

Road King. Road Glide Ultra for next review

[@MattLaidlaw]

Road King will be out in a week

[@mcmcmorris]

have the Dynas been changed at all? are they going to move to Milwaukee moved over to them

[@MattLaidlaw]

The Dynas didn't really change from 2016 -2017. My guess is that the Milwaukee 8 will migrate over to all the big twin bikes in time. I don't know exactly when that will be though

[@mcmcmorris]

I have to ask, how did you get into the Harley mechanics world, did you grow up working on them or did you go to a tech school(MMI)?

[@eddygarcia4270]

road glide for the next review

[@garyvanhovgem7041]

Road Glide Ultra

[@chevelle70ful]

Needs a thunder header. sounds like a goldwing.

[@tatewilson7678]

in person they sound like a V-Rod

[@neano62]

Lowered suspension 'Low Profile Shocks' aint for me. ya definatly need that extra travel for the maximum ride. Motor sounds great from all the videos ive heard. mufflers, two different sizes!??? wow. 26,000 plus tax freight and set up, give or take, idk?good video zeal, but for now, i'll hang on to the Old and not Grab onto the New.

[@MattLaidlaw]

Nothing wrong with the old ones man. Enjoy.

[@2007crf450r]

would be nice if harley would redesign the rear shocks they ride like crap. wish they would go to a mono shock

[@brucelee9968]

Road King please

[@pballzrican]

yea i wanna see the road king as well

[@MattLaidlaw]

I'll be doing that in a week or so the video should be out

[@mahlercdo3]

Oil sumping transmission oil trasfering junk and the moco will not stand behind them how do i know you might ask i was one of the damn fool's that bought one had it for 8 months one season traded it for a twin cam cable clutch before the thing blew up completely

[@stevemack389sm]

the 2016 breakout & the vrod muscle, now the breakout is basically More biased off the muscle Right!.. the only thing different on booth Harley Davidson motorcycles is just THE breakouts More for passengers friendly. and the vrod muscle is more basically for having fun And though they have the same motor and rear wheel the 240 rear wheels and Booth just the front end of the breakout is different from the muscle but They are basically the same for the 2016 not the newest models!!..

[@MattLaidlaw]

The breakout is a big twin, air cooled, 103 CI engine. The Vrod muscle is completely different. It's the 1250 cc water cooled 4 valve, overhead cam etc

[@stevemack389sm]

Ook

[@stevemack389sm]

OK so basically The breakout is its own thread NOTHING like the vrod at all just With the breakout is THE 240 rear tire!

[@MattLaidlaw]

Yes, They share the 240 mm rear tire and thats about it.

[@firebird0u812]

We need to hear what Old Dirty Biker thinks about this new motor and how it compares to the old panheads that were "hi-tech" back when he was a youngsta'. lol

[@MattLaidlaw]

Haha. I'll hit him up

[@user-zz3nv6hw2s]

well its official Harley is now making Goldwing's.........

[@MattLaidlaw]

Oh, really? When and where?

[@thundergod6173]

dont get used of getting off your bike on the right side believe it or not ive seen alot of inexperienced an exsperianced riders get off hook there foot or chain walet or what ever and pull the bike wright off the kick stand and bike fall over get hooked stumble and here comes the bike just a no no

[@dannysecret8068]

NO more classic harley sound

[@Skierxman]

Nice bike. That jacket has got to go. Good god almighty.

[@MattLaidlaw]

Haha. Most people love the jacket.

[@hsmith3844]

Need the clunk, millennium riders.........Yes own an M8 in RK!

[@danborden3283]

CVO bikes

[@MattLaidlaw]

Okay will do some CVO's soon