Top 5 Harley-Davidson Misconceptions

Matt Laidlaw goes over some of the most common Harley-Davidson Misconceptions when it comes to comparing them to other makes of Motorcycles.
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[@geraldkeithrennier1995]

Matt, I am a Harleyholic and an educator. I subscribed to your channel because of the total quality that you provide. You are a cool dude with amazing artistry in videography. You have outstanding knowledge of Harley subject matter. You are an excellent communicator and teacher. Your analogies are very effective for understanding and you are entertaining and fun. In my opinion you are the best source for learning about Harley Davidson's on the Internet. You have addressed prejudice and ignorance with this video in a very professional, reasonable, and kinder gentler manner. Truth is haters are going to hate. I recommend your channel to every motorcycle enthusiast. I live in Arizona and ride my Sportster year around. I have 40 years of riding on my own and a few life shaping years of riding on the roomy old seat with my daddy on his 1951 Harley. I visited Laidlaws this past December but didn't see you. Thank you for the dedication that goes into your videos and representing Harley in your empowering way. Ride on, brother!

[@MattLaidlaw]

Keith Rennier thank you for the comment. I think that's probably the best comment I have ever received. Thank you. Ride on my friend. I'm surprised you didn't see me when you dropped by. I practically live there.

[@justinlash3814]

The fact that you know what you are talking about, have good video skills, knocking out great videos, thanks man. If I lived in southern CA, your dealership would be my go to. When I make a trip from Northern CA to your way, I will make sure your shop is the one I spend my money at. Keep up the great work, I love the videos

[@MattLaidlaw]

Justin Lash thanks man. Thanks for the compliment.

[@tryarunm]

Keith, You just said everything i intended to say and more and certainly much better! Thank you, Brother!

[@geraldkeithrennier1995]

Thanks tryarunm! It's an amazing vibe when we resonate with with those like us on the quality things in life. Expressing appreciation is lost in our society when we are all on this ride together. I appreciate you for appreciating Matt and myself. Thank you, Brother!

[@joetroutt7425]

I was a die-hard sport bike enthusiast and one day I went looking to trade my 06gsxr 600 for a litre bike and couldn't find one in my price range. As I was looking around I started looking at the Harleys and sat down on one. First of all I like how comfortable the seat was (not all are comfortable to me) so the sales guy asked me if I wanted to test ride it. I wasn't looking to do any test rides but I said what the hell. I took off down the highway and let me tell ya it was like hanging on for dear life. I got back to the dealer and asked how much and he said 6000$ they give me 3000 for my gsxr ( which is how much I paid for it) and I paid the rest in cash. What was that Harley ya ask? It was an 07 Sportster 1200 custom with 18" ape hangers and a screaming eagle stage 2 kit. That bike turned more heads than my bright orange 600 crotch rocket ever did just by the sound and look of the bike. I was hooked! sorry for such a long post but just had to tell about my conversion.

[@jackx4767]

I ride the same model and year. Bought mine brand new off the show room floor. The biggest thing I hate is when guys say that a sportster is strictly a chick bike. I later shut them up when I point out that historically sportsters were used as a starting point for bobbers and choppers. Good on you for not listening to the hype against Harley and as we say keep the chrome end up. Also welcome to the HD family.

[@nomansson4628]

That's because of the freaking handlebars.. the bike itself isnt powerful..

[@joetroutt7425]

@@nomansson4628 oh yeah! I have realized that since then but that bike was still fun as hell to ride.

[@franciscvarga1212]

Same here rode sport bikes for 15 years all GSXR’s the last one was a liter bike I traded in for a brand new Harley two months ago and tell you what I never look back and I get more compliments on my Harley than all my sport bikes combined.

[@travelinman482]

@@joetroutt7425 So, you’re a narcissist? Why would anyone want to have constant attention? Oh, look at me... I’m riding an outdated bike with dumb ass ape hangers.

[@andygabb1749]

Agree with Matt. I always dreamed of owning a HD, and when the time was right, I purchased my first HD. Have owned it for 6 years, and now just bought another new HD. Love them or hate them, it's your choice, but love them and would never change!

[@motolifehd9323]

I still feel like the misconception that says that Harley is overpriced is not a misconception at all. Yes, the comparison between sportbikes and cruisers sounds really weird. But comparison between Harley and Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki and Kawasaki cruisers can bring this "misconception" to the table. This doesn't mean I don't want to have a Harley rather then those Japanese cruisers. They are good and they are cheaper... but I want Harley... To be honest I would have all of them :) I like motorcycles in general.. but my practical part always win. That's why I own Kawasaki Versys instead of Harley. But one day I'll buy a Harley too. :)

[@user-qv4rj3fo9b]

My first Harley is a 1980 (SuperGlide). Still have it and still love to ride it. Recently bought an '09 Ultra. They both have a unique ride but both are definitely Harley. There's nothing like them.

[@joeysixtysix]

Great video! I think most of the negative things you hear about HD comes from people who have never experienced one.

[@stephenfoster582]

Or are envious

[@battlebornhd3030]

I work hard for the money that I earn.... if I want to spend my money on an “overpriced Harley-Davidson”, that’s what I’m going to do. Matt said it right when he said people try and compare sport bikes to H-D. It is a COMPLETELY different class of motorcycle.

[@11bbasterd]

Shit I came from the sportbike world "overpriced harley" LMFAO have you ever checked out DUCATI? Makes most harley's affordable. I never get why people say they are so overpriced. Now I can't speak on the gear thought Dianese and Alpine star race jackets with armor made of kangaroo leather for some reason costs the same as a Harley jacket that doesn't come with shit. I'll say harley bikes aren't really overpriced.....The merch/gear might be.

[@charlescheeseman3430]

Hey Matt, thanks for the great discussion on Harley misconceptions, they are spot on. Like I have said for years most Harley haters have never owned or ridden a Harley. I have the 2 of the most hated bikes on the Internet, a Harley Roadglide and a BMW GSA, both put a giant smile on my face when I ride them, they are totally different bikes, so haters can be jealous all day long as they secretly wish they had one!

[@SmokeRingsPipeDreams]

I personally have pretty much NEVER heard a harley owner cutting down non harleys the way non harley owners do. That says a lot.

[@7quicksilver77]

Then u have not been a motorcyclist for as long I have (53 years) PS I own a cruiser and a gen 4 BMW S1000 RR M pack right now, and love them both.

[@loyalhearted6101]

Damn you must be living under a rock because most Harley riders don’t respect other cruiser riders.I have seen it first hand in my 42 years of life and 15 of those years of riding.

[@frankmarkovcijr5459]

Dude I don't know where you're coming from Harley Riders I know of they put down everything that isn't a Harley weather to BMW Ducati a brake bike what are the traffic like they always have a quick comment to say like rice burner Jack crap or something similar because they paid an overpriced piece of crap they have to make themselves feel better by putting down other people's motorcycles they think everything begins and ends with Harley-Davidson and Harley nothing in the scheme of things they are one step away from becoming a chinese-owned company your fights are made to pass federal regulations and not customers needs that's why you have to put 10 grand into a $20,000 motorcycle and it still is a piece of crap Harley build quality is an oxymoron if they made good bikes they wouldn't have the problems they are having and they wouldn't be shoving warranties down everybody's throats and they can keep their $60 t-shirts as well along with their hundred-dollar oil changes I could change the oil in my Sportster in my driveway in 20 minutes for about $30 the one time I let a dealer touch my bike they f*** it up never again thank God I never had the money to buy one of those I would not take one for free just like the British manufacturers Harley is Pennywise and pound-foolish did shave a few pennies putting cheap s*** their engines and then pay out the Wazoo for warranty claims they just never learn maybe chapter 11 will teach them a lesson but with 8 million twin cams on the used Market you're a Harley enough for the next 20 years without a factory and a boutique dealership and crafts that's made in China or Vietnam they don't want it to service they don't want to do repairs especially if you have a 10 year old bike bartender service pay is all full of brand new motorcycles with exploded engine Harley's last good motor was the Evo and that was designed by AMF best motor by far twin cams and mhr nothing but cheap disposable engines at ridiculous prices I mean really brand new motorcycle engine exploding at 15000 miles or less they have so many problems should we give me a sore throat listing them all here but they are all already wide known can't keep anything Secret in this day and age Executives at Harley got paid on their job performance they would get a zero paycheck at the end of the week except for the guy who figures out more ways to screw the Harley-Davidson customer out of money he got a raise and a bonus

[@frankmarkovcijr5459]

Harley-Davidson whose motto is by the rich for the rich only the rich and and if you are not an old fart with more monies and God you're not welcome in our dealership go buy a Honda Sonny they are going to put themselves out of business the same way BS a Triumph did in the 70s a competent management expensive products crappy warranties horrible quality control no parts but we happy aftermarket which puts out better stuff at lower prices than anything you can get from a Harley dealership

[@rootytooty9808]

People seem to completely forget that Harley makes neo-classic motorcycles; very specific "legacy" type motorcycles. Why do you want a Harley? Because it is classic. Imagine if Chevy started making 1971 Camaros, or Ford 1969 Mustangs with updated but not over the top technology to keep the vintage style. Would we give them so much shit? Harley's are neo-classic bikes and should be treated as such.

[@MattLaidlaw]

Very Doge well said

[@mchristr]

Excellent analogy.

[@rootytooty9808]

Actually an even better analogy would be how brands like Moto Guzzi, Norton, Triumph and Royal Enfield's main sales come from neo-classic bikes and Yamaha and Honda still manufacture some neo-classic models. The only difference is that HD makes American neo-classic bikes (big, powerful, heavy bikes; like you said more raw materials) not 300 lbs Euro city bikes.

[@iwens1966]

Yeah, neo-classic. 1960s technology at 2017 prices. I'll pass. I'd like to think I have more brains than money.

[@rootytooty9808]

Raw performance is not everything. Motorcycles are more than the sum of their parts. If you ride for any reason that is not the way it makes you feel, you're not doing it right. By that token, in the very same way that an aerodynamically styled sportbike with a liquid cooled technologically advanced in-line 4 and racing suspension may appeal to person A, a classically styled bike with a simpler classic engine and comfortable suspension may appeal to person B.

[@shadefive]

I love that you're on a low rider s. I just picked up my 2016 and couldn't be happier with it. torque is 100% there. only complaint is finding a good set of pipes for it that aren't 2 into 1. I'm fine with 2 into 1 into 2 through a collector, but not just one pipe out the rear...

[@SmokeRingsPipeDreams]

Judging a motorcycle by it's "specs" is like judging a woman's total value by her measurements.

[@MattLaidlaw]

Agreed. Great analogy.

[@jeffsnell6372]

We’ll done sir. I traveled from the east coast to west coast in 1977 on a brand new Honda 750. The bike ran flawlessly. I recently decided to start riding again and this time I am hoping to buy a 2024 Hydra Glide. To me, this motorcycle is breathtaking! I decided I didn’t want to leave this world without owning a “Hog” and enjoying the iconic rumble that is legendary! You are a wonderful ambassador for Harley-Davidson and your videos have in large part fostered my desire to own one and be part of the family if you will. 😉

[@aytes44]

I just bought a 2017 Road King, and I didn't buy it to see how fast I could get to 60 mph. I wanted a sweet looking ride that I could ride for distance without feeling like I was in a car crash. Seriously, it makes me giggle when I hit the open road. It has plenty of power, and it's the only frame they make that really fits me. Maybe one day I'll upgrade the engine and components, but it won't be because I need it. (If my wife is reading this, it's because I "need it") I love this new engine.

[@THENUTSBIGDIRTYBASEMENT]

Congrats. That is a gorgeous bike my man.

[@SadaEKE]

You should upgrade the front fork right away. HD knew about the death wobble and chose not to fix it. So you may find yourself on the ground rolling out of nowhere.

[@robw7676]

Just did 1350 miles around California on a 2017 Road King. Riding 2 up with a 70 litre duffel bag on the parcel rack & the bags full. Nice bike. The only major complaints I have are that it's too hard to get to the rear preload adjuster, and the fact the side stand drags the floor much too early on left turns.

[@rogerburns8478]

SadaEKE harley fixed the death wobble with the frame change in 09 and yes im certain of that i have a 2017 flhr myself and i grew up on sportbikes

[@scotthausam6445]

thanks for the video Mr.Laidlaw. very informative, and easy to understand. I wish all metric riders would watch this video to erase a lottery of prejudices.

[@aramos811]

Hi Matt - I bought a used 2009 Ultra Classic three months ago after selling my 2003 Yamaha V Star 1100 Classic. My Yamaha was a great motorcycle but it was not a Harley and it could never be one. I love my Harley and it makes me happy when I ride it down the road. I'm hoping to ride my Ultra Classic until I can't ride anymore. Good video by the way...

[@thedude7730]

I've been riding since I was 8. I'm now 52. I have a 2017 Road King and a 2006 GSXR750(no car)....I love 'em both.

[@michaelottesen5062]

I echo Keith Rennier comments, especially your reasonable approach to explain the motorcycle industry and your view on where Harley Davidson fits in the picture.

[@jcfrmcali]

Some people watched this video determined not to learn anything.

[@aboutmyfathersbusiness8324]

Have a 1980 FLT and just got a 2010 FLTRX. I was amazed... You are correct; Its like a 1980 restomod.

[@GerryRem700]

I love all kinds of bikes. Harley Davidson, Triumph, Honda and so on. What you get with a Harley Davidson is what you get with a 60's muscle car. No it's not the fastest car on the planet and yes it's old school technology but you take pride in them. It's a feeling that you cannot get with anything else.

[@droptine5520]

I disagree, I take pride in my r1200RT. I demoed a 2015 Road Glide a couple years ago. And though I liked it's comfort, and generally liked the bike, I just didn't like riding it nearly as much as I love riding my 2005 R1200RT. The HD lacks the performance, agility and responsiveness that I love in a bike, which is what gives me the exact feeling that you're talking about. I don't care about engine or exhaust sound, I don't care about the look of the bike either(that's obvious riding an R1200rt).

[@tysonvilleneuve931]

A yuppy wine cork sniffing attitude? Pop up GPS? Which "rockets" have pop up GPS and how does that make them yuppy bikes? What the hell are you on about? People defend Harleys despite having less performance for more money, telling others "you just wouldn't understand. It's a Harley thing." So explain to me how those who ride "high rev rockets" are the snobs?

[@firefighter1c57]

and just like that outdated tech, a 69 Yenko Camero will get it's doors blown off by a 17 Hennesy Camero.... While I agree, the 69 looks better parked in the garage, or leaned on at the local drive, it's not practical. The Harley mirrors that. The 90th anniversary wide glide looks good shinny in the garage, but if I ride, I ride the Vic.

[@johhnyo]

to each their own, glad you like your bike. what he is trying to say is if we can make a comparion with cars.. some like new honda civic ..with the smooth ride, quiet power, and advancements and some love a 69 camaro..with a rumble, shake, exhaust sound and a raw feel. to each their own..neither is better..just in the mind of the owner

[@firefighter1c57]

That's the problem Jeff, it's not in the mind of the owner. Sure what one likes is indeed in the mind of the owner. My wife would love a 70 Chevelle, I'd prefer a 2016 BMW M3. Both performance cars, and both with their own character, and both, depending on condition, around the same price... however, her and I both know the BMW will spank the Heavy Chevy in any catagory. The problem with most HD owners isn't that the ride what they want, it's that they are constantly trying to tell me how much better there bike is... it honestly isn't and the numbers are plan as day on the stat sheets. It's not fast, it's not nimble, it runs hot, and it's over weight compared to the competition. The competition in this case being a Suzuki Boulevard, a Honda Goldwing, a Victory Hammer, an Indian Scout... when you realistically compare the cost of ownership and the performance of a Honda Fury to a Dyna, you quickly realize the HD is only more expensive and that's it. It's part of the reason HD owners like to compare them to sport bikes, because obviously, comparing apples to oranges gives you way more comfort, carrying capacity, fuel mileage range, etc etc etc. Or to BMWs which are expensive themselves. Truth is, a Kawasaki Concourse is probably about an ideal touring bike, but it's dismissed because Murica

[@helodriver20]

Excellent. Every manufacturer has tried (and failed) to duplicate the sound and feel of a Harley V-Twin. My 2017 is extremely reliable;e and gets great mileage. I love the power it has. I also love that every Harley is completely unique to the owner. Once you buy one, you spend a lot of enjoyable time upgrading and adding your personal touch. All part of the love of owning a Harley. I don't want a sport bike. If I did, I'd buy one.

[@PAULY-P]

You use your thighs, not your wrists on a sportbike. Im a Harley guy myself. But im loving the 2019 Chieftain DarkHorse. The Chieftain is between a StreetGlide and a Goldwing. I own a Harley and a Busa at the moment. And can ride all day on the Busa. The suspension doesnt pick up the bumps like my Harleys do. Plus it cuts through the wind. 👍 As long as your on 2 wheels, thats all that matters.

[@jholbrook75]

I have a 2010 FXDWG with over 70k on it. it's never leaked oil and has never broke down. I do keep up on the maintenance with it, in fact I just replaced the primary and cam chains, but it is been extremely reliable compared to other vehicles I've owned in the past.

[@roddyhankins2668]

Love your videos matt really informative. Now on my 7th harley ridden them over here in the uk for 40years nothing else like them.really hope harley survives these difficult days the world is facing. Thanks matt

[@roberthodges1650]

After trying and owning every metric cruiser on the market I finally got smart and bought a 2018 Harley Heritage Classic . The Harley ride is far more comfortable ,fit and finish is much better and the performance is better too. So I totally agree with this video . If you want a cruiser get a Harley it is what all the competition tries to be and now I know why.

[@FlyingTigersKMT]

Hey Matt, I'm one of your MVPs and I came from riding sportbikes all my life. I even raced at the club level and had some success. But I had a friend who rode Harley exclusively. One day he convinced me to try it just for kicks and one ride, and I instantly got it. The next day, I went and bought a Sportster. 3 Harleys later, now I am on an Electra Glide and can't imagine riding anything else. He was right... Nobody who rides a Harley says they wish they will one day own a Honda or Yamaha or Triumph, but those riders will invariably say they wish someday to own a Harley.

[@dannyzehms2483]

Matt, you hit it on the head. I've been around Harley Davidson motorcycles my whole life. I hear it everyday by non Harley riders. But the fact is, the motor company makes beautiful machines. I'm not sure that some people could argue with that. I am a Harley mechanic, and I love it. I find myself sticking up for my passion on many occasions. I digress, sportbikes are something of beauty also, but nothing compares to a Harley.

[@MattLaidlaw]

Danny Zehms It funny how this video is looked at as a "Us vs them" video. That was never the intention. I just wanted to clear up some common misconceptions that were spouted off on KZbin a lot. I ride and love all motorcycles.

[@dannyzehms2483]

Matt Laidlaw well, i enjoyed the video. and thought it was pretty cool that you brought up the v-rod. People seem to forget that bike came out long before its time, and is a great machine. Keep on keeping on man, you earned a follower.

[@WHOSKOW1]

Great video. You blew it on the leaky oil section, though. Early Harleys had an inner primary cover with a hole in the bottom to let oil out. The breather from the engine had a tube that went to the primary to puff out oil mist to lubricate the primary chain. This mist was adjustable at the oil pump. After a good ride the built up oil in the primary covers from the oil mist would then leak out of the hole in the bottom of the unpressurized cover. The earlier Harleys where actually designed to leak oil. Going back even farther, Some of the real early designs where a total loss system. In other words they had no oil return. Once the oil went through the engines it all came out on the ground. I believe that you had to add oil about every 750 miles or so. This is why Harleys got the bad rap about oil leaks. Cheers

[@jkack53]

I have owned the following: Honda 50, Kawasaki 90, 1969 Honda 350, 1969 Honda 450, 1967 BSA Gold Star, 1968 Triumph Bonneville, 1971 Triumph Bonneville, 1983 Honda 650, 2005 Harley Sportster. In my opinion the best handling were the Bonneville's.

[@SmokeRingsPipeDreams]

When I hear harley haters bitching about harleys I also smell something and that smell is the smell of extreme envy.

[@robertbelote5273]

As simple a statement as it was it was absolutely beautiful." Would you compare an escalade to a supra ? "

[@edtuller2537]

Matt I Live In South Georgia and I watch your Video's all the time. Keep up the Great work. But there is a guy that just traded in his Ultra with over 100,000 miles on it. I ride a 09 Heritage Love my Harley. I have had Honda's, Kawasaki's there all good bike's. But there is Nothing like an American made Motorcycle.

[@kevinpolito7727]

A trouble spot on many Harley models, including touring models that will likely see two-up, fully loaded conditions, is the short rear suspension travel. Harley, typically 2 inches. Indian, typically 4.5 inches. By spending an additional $500 to $1,000, one can buy aftermarket rear shocks with maybe an extra inch of travel. But you're already paying a premium for a Harley. H-D should provide much longer travel rear suspension.

[@pcofranc]

You forgot depreciation - Japanese cruisers depreciate like Krazy and are rearlly really hard to sell used. Used HD Sportster is a good way to go on a budget.

[@nobodysreview6137]

Thise bikes nobody respects because its a Harley look a like, they should of made there own style of cruisers like the Goldwing, Goldwing is its own looking bike and people respect that.

[@i2ambler2002]

@@nobodysreview6137 If you are buying a bike to gain respect, perhaps you are not buying a bike for the right reason.

[@nobodysreview6137]

@@i2ambler2002 Could of been wrong choice of words, but it is a Harley copy an looks stupid.

[@Tony-ej2ip]

I live in Australia where the roads aren't as nice as in the US. Try riding a Harley Perth to Sydney (3 to 4 days) then try a sports bike and see how your body pulls up. Or vice versa, take a sports bike to the track then try it on a Harley. As you said Matt ridiculous comparisons. I've heard some of these same criticisms/comparisons here over the years, from riders into sports bikes or sports tourers.

[@pilgrim7779]

I still ride my old 1996 Fatboy and it just hit 125,000 miles with no major engine work whatsoever! It is becoming one cold-blooded SOB, but once she gets warmed up it runs like it always has. All my friends have long moved on to the twin cams, but I can't think of one good reason to give up on the old EVO (probably the most reliable engine ever made).

[@karamlevi]

Pilgrim777 only Harley & BMW have owners pour on the mileage and hold onto the bike... and Beemers are your orientated over all, says much for these two old brands.

[@christopherrizzo9958]

I've got over 100,000 miles on my 94 geezer glide. With a little xtra 135hp with 135fp

[@MrButtons252]

I just bought my first harley davidson, a 2016 1200cx. Possibly the slowest motorcycle I have ever owned. The dealership told me everyone pays the "harley tax" where you end up buying intake, exhaust, and a tune just to get it to run decent. I disagree with you on #2. I traded in a 2007 BMW K1200R sport with hard bags, abs, heated grips, double windshield. It was more comfortable, made 151whp to the rear wheel (intake, exhaust, tuned), more torque, more smooth, less wind blowing me around, more luggage capacity. with all that said, i lusted for a vtwin and wanted a classic air cooled roadster and so i am happier. However, 62hp from a 1200cc vtwin is a bit absurd these days from a bike called a "sportster" after i pay $700 for 2-1 exhaust, $150 intake, $400 on a tuner, $325 on cams -- i might get to my 85whp goal

[@Streetbob_Nomad]

Great video. Really appreciate you defending Harley's 👌🏻 🤙🏻 keep your face in the wind brother

[@jeffreyponting9524]

You can buy a 1000cc sportbike for $7500. For a nice Garley touring bike you are in the $20,000 - $30,000 range. I have a electraglide standard and I find it to be very comfortable and stable on the highway. The paint quality is excellent. I am over 40, so I don't need to ride wheelies and dart in and out of traffic at 120mph. I am happy to just cruise.

[@JackTulsen77]

As of October 9th 2019... I'm looking at the HD and indian websites right now. 2020 Electra Glide Standard: $18,999. 2020 Indian Chieftan: $21,999. Both very similar models that are direct competitors to each other. How are Harleys over priced or expensive?

[@robertherrick6703]

It should also be taken into consideration that there are no real alternatives to some of the HDs out there. That's why I got a 2019 Low Rider. I couldn't find anything else with those specs and looks. The whole Softail range has no real competition from Indian, BMW, Suzuki, Honda, or Yamaha.

[@vanguy9780]

2020 Road Glide Limited $28,299.00 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan Voyager ABS $17,499.00 That's how they're overpriced.

[@explaindis1]

So you put a standard electra glide with a chieftain 🤔 they are not the same you get more for your buck on the chieftain than the the standard.

[@karlanderson1791]

My favorite point you made was about the lack of plastic on Harleys. They still look like MOTORCYCLES

[@jamesjonathanbrowne9528]

Hey, I LOVE outdated bikes! Hehe. I have owned a Japanese Race bike, I have owned a BMW cruiser. I have riden dirt bikes and I will say that there is NOTHING like a HARLEY. NOTHING! The last 5 bikes I have owned have been Harleys. Anyone owes it to themselves to go take a test ride on a Harley before talking trash about them. I love how the Harleys feel when I am riding down the road. Riding the Harleys mak have to really hand it to you for all you do to promote Harleys. Not all dealership owners are as hands on as you are and work to really connect to your customers. When I see your reviews, I don't ever feel like you are just trying to sell something. You give really honest, objective evaluations on the videos of the bikes you ride and make videos on. I like that. You are good people, Matt.

[@joshuamurray86]

I am by no means a Harley hater, but it sounds like you're in love with them. A couple things I thought were interesting. 1. You talk about ABS and a hydraulic clutch like they are new tech. 2. What about the stock suspension which is far below the standard in corners? 3. There are plenty of sport-tourers that do everything a Harley does but also go, stop, and turn faster. 4. Harley does in fact sell their name and the feel of the ride. Nobody buys them for performance (go, stop, turn) and if they do they are making a mistake. Personally, I like them but there are only two reasons and it's the way they feel and the build quality. You can't try and defend their turning ability, acceleration or braking.

[@MattLaidlaw]

joshuamurray86 I'm just realistic about their strengths and weaknesses.

[@plaguesofwrath]

On the price thing, I've been trying to tell people this for years.

[@mchristr]

Thoughtful presentation Matt. The bottom line is value. Very few riders have the disposable income to toss thousands of dollars at a fashion statement. If the bikes didn't perform Harley would be out of business. That's simply the way of consumer economics.

[@franciscvarga1212]

i rode sport bikes all my life i needed comfort with speed so i bought a 2019 fat bob 114, i never look back ...most fun bike i ever rode even my friend is impressed who rides a busa and he thinks to buy one.

[@roommatesusa2322]

I am a Busa rider thinking of making the jump to a street glide.

[@edwardweiszbeck1649]

True. Full agreement with the statement that Sport bikes are no fun at legal speeds

[@mattbrown1277]

Mr. Laidlaw, I am a MMI trained tech. However, I have never owned H-D. That being said, I have owned 4 Japanese v-twin motorcycles that had very but the quality of build as any H-D I have ever laid hands on. Every one was around half the c.c. displacement of a big twin. Even giving up that level of engine, they easily kept pace with Harleys, were just as comfortable and (in my humble opinion) just as reliable. Even now, given the financial capability I would likely but a H-D. Remebering an old adage that says the worst thing about a Harley is the owner says a lot about a the image of Harley Davidson motorcycles. No on can argue about most, not all, H-D owners are elitist.

[@davidfalgout7304]

Matt's facts where only partially true. 2018 Indians ride better, look great, have far better designed engines that give less trouble, Hold their value the same as H-D etc. OTOH all top manufacturers kinda come off as elitist . From my owner ship experience of both, HD does nothing better than Indian as of the 2018 model year save tons and tons of bling and variations.

[@exexpat11]

Harley has self cancelling signals. Harley was one of the first to have an electrical system that would handle aftermarket LED lighting as an add on without a inline resistor. Harley has updated the very old design of the old radial engine. They used to update once every few decades but now they are updating their engines every 2 to 3 years. Unfortunately they did silence the old sound of the exhaust - it is more muted by regulations. Harley's quality means a motorcycle with proper maintenance can last 1/2 a century. Try that with a Japanese motorcycle (GoldWings excluded)... and European bikes (outside of the older BWM's) will barely last 20 years. Harley does have a lot of old tech however... it works.

[@edendriga23]

K... I understand the HP and torque is plenty for cruisers... However, why can't HD put better brakes on the bikes??

[@lloydmaynard9582]

My Road Glide came with Brembo Brakes it's 2017. Thought I would let you know they have put better brakes on them

[@philliplynn3938]

@Ticky Tocky I'm not sure which models you're speaking of, I have a 09 StreetGlide, braking is phenominal.

[@philliplynn3938]

@Ticky Tocky I have, rode Honda's for most of my life I'm 54, owned CX 500, CB900 and CB1000. I have nothing against any bike. My streetglide with the tour pack on is approaching 900#s, the braking is more than sufficient, I do use front and rear combined generally.

[@philliplynn3938]

Obviously you're not a Harley fan, they are heavy.

[@richardcarlisle6169]

One of the earlier commenters said, "Harley has soul". There is more. I bought my second motorcycle from Laidlaw's in the summer of 1967. The salesman was a big man named Gerry Phipher and the bike was a used custom chopper, 1948 FL. This, of course, took place at the old grease pit on Garvey Ave. in South San Gabriel. I had a problem with the clutch slipping and the man who personally addressed my concerns and handled it correctly and fairly was Bob Laidlaw whom I presume is your Father. I resold that 1948FL back through Laidlaw's on consignment in 1972 for the same price that I had paid for it minus my own warranty adjustment for work the shop had to do for the new owner. I received the same high ethical treatment and transparency in the sale and the mechanical work as I had received in 1967. In 2015 I bought my third and first new motorcycle at age 68. A 2015 Softail Slim from Denny's in Springfield, Mo. There are similarities such as the gear shift and the jiffy stand but all of this machine is of the most modern and up to date materials, innovations and workmanship that an owner would expect. I have driven it for 22,000 trouble-free miles and of course, there are NO oil leaks.

[@MattLaidlaw]

Richard Carlisle awesome. Thanks for sharing. Bob Laidlaw is my grandfather.

[@BoutTime73]

Solid video, when people compare sport bikes with Harley's to me I always say well a Corvette and a Cadillac both have V 8's, why cant the caddy outrun the vette? Stupid comparison. At the end of the day though it's all about riding your ride, if you want a ninja then ride a ninja, if you want a BMW then ride it, just like I'll ride my Road King. And, for those who haven't kept up, Victory is going farewell.

[@sokodad]

Subie Driver what? What's this about victory?

[@BoutTime73]

Victory going out, Polaris gonna focus on Indian and shut down Victory

[@sokodad]

Subie Driver that's sad. I feel it's slap in the Victory owners face.

[@BoutTime73]

I think it's terrible move on their part, they said they'll provide parts and such for ten years though

[@BFD15i]

My guess: There will be some new Indian models in the near future, using Victory engines and chassis. It's just not very smart to run 2 companies aiming for (nearly) the same customers. It's better to focus the efforts on 2 company and make that really succesfull.

[@mrvoyagerm]

I've had all kinds of bikes over the years and I had some of those same misconceptions about Harleys, until I test rode one for the first time a few years ago. Now I wouldn't have anything else. It's something people have to experience to understand.

[@smokinjoe4709]

lol keep telling yourself that....

[@mrvoyagerm]

At my age I let the bike do the talking, I don't have the time or the inclination to try to put up with any bike that isn't up to the job. My Harley just makes me happy - what else can I say.

[@motosessions]

Just came across this video. I admit, I was a Harley hater up until a few months ago. Now I’m hoping to pick up my first Harley sooner rather than later. That being said, I think a lot of people do what I did - Overlook the experience for stats. For me, riding motorcycles is about experiences. I thought having the best brakes/suspension/whatever made the experience which is totally wrong. Having state of the art equipment is great to add to the experience, but if you can only enjoy the experience based on how ‘big’ your stat sheet is, I’m sorry. I think you’re missing out on a lot of great riding and personal experiences.

[@johnnymossville]

I think you hit the nail on the head Ed. It's about the experiences. For example, I can't tell you how many times I've stopped to fill up and have heard Harley Stories from older gentleman, who either have one, had one, or have friends who have them and they just want to communicate those great experiences with a like-minded person. I enjoy those chats because it's what connects us as humans. Personally, I don't care what people ride. Just enjoy what you have and enjoy the experience. Life is short.

[@FGGuy-ic4tc]

Great video...been riding dirtbikes and motorcycles ever since I could balance on two wheels. Rode them all...I'm on my third Harley now...first one was used the next two were brand new...waiting to pick up my SGS-M8 in Charcoal Denim...can't wait to start racking on the miles...

[@MattLaidlaw]

Very nice my friend. You'll love the M8. Enjoy.

[@turtle19dad]

And they are worried because "Harley riders dont wave at them." I was literally told not to buy H-D because their riders dont wave.

[@turtle19dad]

@Desert Dawg bad thing is it was someone I served/deployed with. And I've wanted HD as long as I can remember. Now when I close on the house, it's between the RGS/SGS/FXLR/FXBB, as well as Midnight Blue SG Standard. Tough choice.

[@richardherron7670]

Hey Matt great informative video truly spoken sir . I love my 2016 Fatboy and highly proud of it. Wouldn't have it any other way my blood runs black and orange since I was five years old to now at fifty eight keep up the great work Matt God bless

[@justcn09]

It doesn't exactly fall into the "Big V-twin" category, but I bought an '06 Sportster 1200 in 2014. It had 28k and I hit 55k this summer. It's easily as reliable as my Honda CB750 was. I can jump on it and ride across country without mechanical concerns. And if it does break, I can usually fix it. (I tell my mother in-law that yes, I have rode-side assistance. It's a tool kit.) As for cost, I feel like I did pay about a 2k premium for this Harley over other similar age/mileage used bikes, but walk into your local Honda dealer and ask them to finance your 3rd party purchase, and see the blank stare you get back. Harley Finance gave me a better rate than another finance company and I was on a bike with just 10% down.

[@RedCrowhop]

HD's hold their resale at least as well as ANY Japanese Bike ,most of the time far better. the financing issue is also a factor as you noted. Honda isnt going to give you one thin dime Honda or not if you aren't buying a new or used bike from the nearest honda dealer, period. I even had a Honda Dealer tell me they wouldn't /couldn't finance a used Honda that was in their Shop for sale, by them. ,told me to go see some pirate assed hi rate loan company, i told them F you I aint crazy or stupid either one.

[@MOTOPILOT6]

Hey MATT....spot on, bud. Coming from a guy that owns 2 SportBikes, one SuperBike, and a 1997 Harley Fat Boy. 1997 and no oil leaks and very very reliable in 10 years of ownership and tons of miles. Bike is butter smooth. Tons of torgue/pulling power. And let's not forget Harleys history in Pre-WWII flat track and post WWII road racing. Dominating flat track for decades and ruling the drag strip to the day even over Suzuki. Plus going over 265 MPH at Bonneville salt flats. Don't get me wrong...I love SportBikes too, but both style bikes have their purpose. Neither being better than the other. Safe riding, fellow riders. MOTO PILOT

[@MattLaidlaw]

Thanks for the comment. I watch your channel. Good stuff man. I love all different kinds of bikes as well. There is a different type of bike for every application speed, cruise, dirt, dual sport, etc. Yea, no one wants to talk about Flat track though.

[@MOTOPILOT6]

Funny that I saw this video again today. I'm releasing a Harley Davidson Brand video I shot in Laughlin tomorrow morning, touching bases on some things you discussed (as a brand). Check it out and please Like/Comment. Thanks for watching. MP

[@MattLaidlaw]

MOTO PILOT I'll be sure to check it out.

[@LimitedSpectrum]

This was a good video, Matt! You explained everything, and without getting angry or bashing anyone! I got my first bike in 2005, 1200XLC. Pretty rare for a 23-year-old to get a Harley at the time, so i took a lot of flak from others my age on their supersport bikes. I always just told them "You might go faster, but I look cooler", and they always shrug and say "can't argue with that!". Hey, I just moved to L.A. a couple years ago, and I have passed Laidlaw's HD a handful of times! I saw your name once I started watching the video. I guess i *HAVE* to stop in, now!

[@addeedo1]

I have also noticed HD never markets thru commercials on TV...If they did, with the beauty and sound of the product...I think they would sell many more bikes

[@narutofanar]

Not going to lie and say I remotely watched a majority of your video but for the most part you seem like a pretty honest guy in this aspect. One question I would like to ask, being a sportbike rider myself..is why do so many Harley riders mock or just plain out ignore us? Like I wave to all bike riders and everytime I wave to a Harley, they just completely ignore me. You may have answered this already in the video but perhaps a time stamp would be helpful. Thank you

[@retaliaterguitar2]

Bit late on an answer but the people who usually don't wave are either weekend warriors that think of themselves as too badass to wave. Anybody who rides more than once a week will usually wave.

[@jacobmoll2878]

Odd, in my locality I have found the opposite, when I road my suzy most Harley riders waved, Now I am on a Harley and less than half non-harleys wave back(I miss a few do to clutching or traffic but I try to wave at all). For some reason when I had Suzy it bothered me more if a Harley didn't wave than if an other didn't.

[@aaronmachado13]

That's more so the guys who got into it cause they think they're Peter Fonda or Steve McQueen too cool for everyone. Honestly you'll find a lot of harley riders don't like them either as they bring bad name to our hobby. Ride safe man

[@JA-zh5xi]

I rode sport bikes throughout my teens and into my 30s. You’re 100% correct - racing them was fun. Riding them was not.

[@jasonbluestein4287]

I have only owned Harleys for the past 12 years or so and I have one now. I had (2) Ultra Limited and (1) ultra Classic and I didn't like any of them. Mainly the handling was terrible in my opinion. I know they had made a few changes since 2008 and I hear they are much better. I am torn between the Honda Goldwing and the new Ultra Limited but I have been doing some extensive research. I started with comparing those bikes not just any Harley against sport bikes. I wanted a more apple to apple comparison if you will. I looked at both bikes and the first thing is the Harley is approx. 1K more and it offers less. I could get the same amenities on the Harley but that would increase the price to approx. 3K more. Also, the Honda offers a 3yr warranty whereas the Harley offers a 2 year warranty. Please don't get me wrong I love Harley and again I've owned many of them but when it comes down to price and what you're getting for your money, I have to say the Honda Goldwing is the better way to go. They are also proven themselves over the years to be very reliable, lower cost of ownership etc... The Harley has a better resale value but that has taken a drop since more bikes have been produced and the amount of riders increased. The only thing I really disagreed with in the video is that I do believe people buy Harleys for the name. When you buy a Harley you do buy into the image and I do believe you pay for that. The technology or lack of in comparison is because Harley owners like the shaking, the sound etc.. if Harley changes that, then they would be changing not only their bikes but the image and since I believe that image is part of the reason bikes are sold, they won't do that. The point I'm trying to make is they are expensive and you don't get everything for your money that would you on another brand and you are buying into the image. I think you either love them or you don't and if you do you will buy them

[@tysonvilleneuve931]

But Jason, what about brand recognition? By that I mean some random girl in Vegas with ankle tattoos named Destini is more likely to know what a Harley is. "Why you dint jus' buy a real Harley instead a this chinese bike?" Think about it.

[@jasonbluestein4287]

Hey Tyson, I agree there is "brand recognition" of course and Harley like other brands do draw a specific client. That was sort of what I was saying, that part of buying a Harley, you are buying into a certain image and the "random girl" you used as an example, you described her as someone that would be attracted to the Harley as oppose to Honda or any other metric bike. Don't get me wrong I love Harleys I've owned them for many years. I was trying to point out that if your going to compare what you would get for a certain price and Harley and the same price for another brand, you're going to get more amenities with another brand. What you do lose is, the history, image and the all around feel of the old school riding. The shaking, the cool factor. I also will tell you that by far Harleys are the best looking bike in my opinion and what Matt says in this video is true. They have gotten more reliable etc... but they are higher maint costs. I know as I have 2 of them I maintain. The running costs are slightly higher because of the gas. Harley has to use 91 and above which typically costs more than regular gas. Again, I agree with you bud, and I love my Harley..but matt is right when he says there is a reason why there are many options of bikes because not everyone is the same. :)

[@tysonvilleneuve931]

Yep. Brand recognition basically translates into "people who don't know anything about this type of product recognize this brand". Which is fine, really. A bike, especially a cruiser, is about how you feel when you look at it, and when you're riding. Part of that feeling is how you feel like you're perceived. I had a Vulcan 1500 Nomad that I bought for dirt cheap just to take touring around the states. I sold it a couple months later as I had intended to do. It was a damn good machine, especially considering what I paid for it, but it didn't have any badge prestige, but for what I needed it for, it wasn't worth paying 2-3 times as much for a Harley that likely wouldn't even have the same performance.

[@jasonbluestein4287]

Exactly! They are nice machines, I actually owned a Vulcan Classic and my brother had the Nomad. Now he owns a Goldwing. People should ride whatever they are comfortable with and it doesn't matter what it is as long as they are enjoying themselves. Really, it's a toy and if you're going to spend money on a toy, you should love it and it doesn't matter what others think. :) Keeping riding buddy!!

[@robertp457]

Why did you buy a motorcycle you didn't like to ride? Take a look at BMW tourers.

[@eddycurrent413]

im running a 92 fxdc stock i love it

[@tcalof]

Harley's use modern technology: You show the Milwaukee-8 engine. HD just adopted that last summer. The reason they were forced to do that was from the complaining of owners regarding the wicked heat coming off the exhaust pipes and cylinder heads. Why didn't HD use the four valve/dual spark plug design before model year 2017? Your guess is as good as mine. Harley's are expensive: You say weight costs money. Steel is far cheaper than aluminum. They should be cheaper to manufacture. Why are they so expensive? Dealer markup and manufacturer greed. They charge more than the market will bear. HD sales have been dropping every year. Harley's are reliable: You didn't mention that the first run of Milwaukee 8's have been plagued with oil pump failures causing seized crankshaft bearings. Milwaukee 8 114's in the CVO are running hotter than the previous generation twin cam engines. Harley survives because it is a quality product: Who are you kidding? HD is sold as a lifestyle. If you want the bad boy, brotherhood, loud pipe image, you have to ride an HD. HD marketing iOS the best in the world. I'm not an HD hater by any means. I subscribe to the mantra that who cares what make you ride. As long as you ride, that's all that matters. I've ridden many models of HD. Not my cup of tea, for many reasons. The point of my reply is to tell viewers of your video that there are contradictions and inaccuracies to all 5 of the HD misconceptions you've rebutted. Caveat Emptor.

[@biaggiwins]

tcalof you saved me from a lot of typing, thank you. seems like a nice guy and i would ride with him any day, but these are opinions more than misconceptions.

[@biaggiwins]

Jrock420blam are you high? you have absolutely no idea what youre talking about.

[@Jrock420blam]

Says the guy riding kids bikes.....

[@biaggiwins]

Jrock420blam lol dont drown in the kool-aid...

[@spiritofthewolf15x]

To be fair, the steel comes from China and Japan.

[@11123DRUMMER32111]

My first bike is a 2019 Sportster 1200 (XL1200NS) and I get shit from Harley guys about buying a girls bike. I also get shit from non-Harley guys for “spending a premium for the logo”. All I know is that I’ve wanted a sportster since I was a kid, so that’s what I bought. It always puts a smile on my face and it’s now my only vehicle. I’m on that Harley everyday and I wouldn’t change it.

[@puskrat]

Let me get this straight....Harleys are innovative because their ads say they are?

[@firefighter1c57]

No, they are innovative because they've adapted 1980s head technology but still use the bottom end from 1898 tractor duh.

[@randyhutchinson9910]

Jeff Puskarich what ads? didn't watch, did ya

[@ThePNWRiderWA]

My favorite is the engine is a agricultural water pump. May have been inspired by them in 1903 but it’s changed a bit LOL

[@512ethan]

Heat kills horsepower. So why take hot air right next to a blazing hot cylinder into the carb and cycle it back through engine? That is the old tech nology people are talking about. I have a 2007 roadster. no oil cooler. Hot oil breaks down faster than cooler oil. Why no factory oil cooler? My 2004 Bonneville has a factory oil cooler. What about the internal chain? I ride a lot of miles a year. Not bagging on Harley. I really want to like them. Factory seat sucks. Factory suspension sucks. Yes, you can make them better but why they don't roll off the line with better engine cooling, better seats and suspension, ect? Add a sight glass on the side of that pontiac sized crankcase? They can make bikes better and they should.

[@adityabeatz]

These harley guys WANT to be uncomfortable and pathetic! It's the only thing that makes them feel more "american"

[@pwntwtf]

Anything above 2 mph is going to be fresh air. Your point is only valid at a red light. lol

[@512ethan]

Brigman Or on the Highyway in a traffic jam in 105 degrees. Yea, it should come with an oil cooler.

[@pwntwtf]

Never had that problem before. Fortunately most states I travel in don't have any anti-lane splitting laws, so I can always stay moving when I need to.

[@robertp457]

Only one state allows lane splitting.

[@SmokeRingsPipeDreams]

Let's have a race, let's have a race between a "sport bike" and a harley, but let's have the race be from california to florida and you can only bring what will fit in or on your bike safely. And you must sleep by your bike, no motels/hotels. What kind of condition do you think that sport bike rider will be when he gets (if he gets) to Florida??? (will he even be able to walk after being in sport bike position all that way?)

[@MattLaidlaw]

Agreed. Different machines fit different applications. Not every motorcycle is optimized to go around a race track.

[@nelsoncasamalhuapa1554]

Matt I appreciate your enthusiasm about Harley but, for a few years now I've been very disappointed with how they treat their customers. Let me give you a couple of examples why I feel this way. 1. They have become a clothing company I will not pay $32.00 for a tank top, really for a tank top you pay that much money, that is ridiculous. 2. I purchase the 2014 Street Glide Special and why, I'm asking you why with all this new technology on the market why do you have to have wire connection just to that you can use your voice command in your infotainment system? I could have purchase an Indian and it works wirelessly why not Harley? and even if you buy a 2017 you still are connected with a wire why????? At this point and time I've been so disappointed that I am ready to move into Indian, there system does work wirelessly!

[@SmileIGotYou]

Soooooo why did you buy it? Do you buy other articles of clothing that are over priced like Nike for instance? Everything has a set price that's how this all works. It all depends on if you want it not.

[@nelsoncasamalhuapa1554]

Why did you buy what? What are you referring to? The clothing or the motorcycle?

[@nelsoncasamalhuapa1554]

I never buy things that are overpriced that how that works!

[@SmileIGotYou]

The HD. Isn't it over priced? That's what everyone is saying. Really anything other than free is overpriced isn't it? Do you really think anyone who is trying to make money is going to give it to you for at the very least anything less than what it cost to make or build?

[@nelsoncasamalhuapa1554]

Your an idiot, to print a t-shirt doesn't cost that much, who the fuck are you anyway a Harley stock holder?

[@chriscisneros155]

I have a question for you Matt. I have ridden for years and noticed something strange about the Harley Davidson crowd. Ever since a friend of mine mentioned the similarity of the Harley crowd to pirates, I now see pirates. It’s the clothing they wear. Sport bike riders typically wear protective clothing and riding gear. Conversely, Many of the Harley crowd wear fingerless gloves, assess chaps, tasseled vests and drink coaster sized “helmets “ full faced helmets are rare. Protective riding gear has a purpose, a certain crowd seems to choose fashion over function. Why do they dress like Pirates?

[@defundprosports6407]

it's all about the rider. you enjoy going slow on a Harley. I ride a bike for nothing but adrenaline. thus a ninja is suffice. It's Harley riders who usually have issues with supersport riders.

[@RedCrowhop]

Where do you do this "adrenaline riding", it it's public roads, thanks for nothing.

[@paulkmaster3231]

Love what you say about people that never rode a Harley and only comparing a spec sheet vs Harley. I own several bikes both Sportbike and Harley. Whenever I let Sportbike riders try a Harley they are shocked at the power comfort and sound a Harley makes then they understand. I find that only very closed minded haters ...you know the ones I'm talking about like a kid forced to try a new food but won't admit it tastes good lol continue to wave a banner of hatred after they have actually tried one..

[@OnPointFirearms]

Great video, Matt. You bring calmness and civility to motovlogs. I enjoy what you do. Thanks!

[@MattLaidlaw]

Thank you.

[@herbwag6456]

Matt, one correction. H-D did not develop it's first 8-valve V-twin "in the 1930-40s" as I believe you said, but way back in 1915 when Bill Harley and the boys became determined to whip Indian on the racetrack which they subsequently did. PS: as an aging baby boomer I'm reverting to the smaller type/size MC's of my youth in the 300-400cc range.

[@davetfft]

bullshit that harley 'keeps up' with technology! good greif they JUST put in 4 valve heads! OOOO.... harley is still building a fat, slow, sluggish, lumbering and overpriced bike... $25-30 for a bagger? really? and THEN you have to stick $3-5k in the engine just to make it run right, and another grand in exhaust to make it sound decent.. harley davidson OWNS buell patents for the xl, why don't they make a 100hp sportster?? because it'd be way faster than the big fat girl twin cams and corporate can't allow that... Buell cranked out thousands of reliable bikes using that drivetrain, 103hp, 45mpg, solid, reliable... so what's your $14k sportster have today? 57hp? harley OWNS the patents and the tooling to give customers that bike AND beat emissions.. do they? no... harley is lazy... period... :).

[@Denis-bo8ms]

I agree, definitely need more valves

[@andymotl]

I own one of the pos twin cams and you're partially right... Try closer to $15,000 to make it reliable and perform worth a shit! That's because you have to replace everything stock from the factory with aftermarket parts! That is pretty sad on H-D's part!

[@Denis-bo8ms]

1. I dont follow this channel. 2. This video is about comparing HD to other makes of motorcycles as it says in the description.

[@obfuscated3090]

The aftermarket offered four valve heads many years ago for HDs, but the MoCo are cheap fuckers and always have been.

[@randyhutchinson9910]

davetfft you really are a butter little man, aren't you ?

[@cmustard599]

I always rode metric bikes and believed many of these 'misconceptions' (and still do, to an extent) until I spent some time on Harleys. I say, 'different strokes for different folks.' The Harley is its own experience, and will always have an army of defenders and true believers. There's always a place for their old-school American design philosophy. Why not? The more the merrier, I say. I enjoyed my time on them, though not enough to trade in my Kawasaki. Just a different mentality toward riding.

[@oeggoneeyedgimpyguy2232]

I have ridden numerous different types of bikes. My favorite is Honda. Why? Because I believe they are the most reliable. My parents have become the definition of fair weather riders... Maybe 150 miles a year tops. Their Hondas from the 90's only ever suffer from dead batteries from sitting... THAT SAID! I think a lot of people are listening to your words while simultaneously trying to prove you wrong. Saying a Harley is "not out dated it just still uses old tech to keep nostalgia" is contradicting. The tech in most of the Harley's power plants is old. But its because its the style and type of bike they build. They do add tweaks there and smooth things out here. But a point you did make, is if they brought in all this new age tech, it simply wouldn't be a Harley. I do all the repairs on my friends and families bikes. They have all types. One bike is a newer Fat Bob. I hit the starter and it has that Harley delay when starting. Then it has that Harley shake while at idle. At cruise speeds its sings its sweet music. on decel it sounds like its going to eat children walking by. Why? Old technology mixed with new. Now I sit on my Dads '97 Honda American Classic (Honda Shadow that was built in America so they could stamp "Made in U.S.A." on the seat for all to see.) It starts smoother, it barely shakes at idle, its revs up, it humms down and is overall a fun bike to ride. But it doesnt have the soul of a Harley. Its not a bad thing to say you use old tech, especially when most riders do own a Harley whether it be due to nostalgia, they want the look, or maybe they just are pro American products. I will say though, Harley has been kicking ass in the electronic department. They came a long way in that regard. Final thought before I close. I currently do not own a Harley. Mostly because I Love my 3rd gen Magna and CBR. Thus making my garage.... Full.... ;-( The Magna has the Asian styling of a Harley with the efficient V4 engine. This offers a smooth ride at all speeds. Acceleration like crazy, and can cruise on a sunday with the rest of them. It beats most Harleys in races, and was discontinued in 2004... Why? Honda took the look of a Harley and put a 4 cylinder in it! People would see the bike and expect one thing, then the motor makes it something else. This turned a lot of people off to it. That combined with the more expensive cost to build a V4 vs a V-twin, and its fate was sealed... Point is that Harley sells because people want whats in the feelings they get while riding, not what adds up on paper...

[@EazyDuz18]

150 miles a year may as well hand in your bike licence

[@Embargoman]

Chinese knockoffs are like an up to date Harleys is that Harley-Davidson with a Honda reliability.

[@jeffhickman10]

Your comprehension skills are nonexistent.

[@SmokeRingsPipeDreams]

"Fit and Finish" .... Harleys are built like a brick shithouse. And I love that.

[@kevinpolito7727]

Granted, H-D has made continuing upgrades in technology over the years. However, I have a number of friends who ride Harleys, and they have had disappointing experiences. Because they have previously owned Honda and other brand bikes, they tend to be more outspoken about the problems they have had than Harley owners who have never owned any other brand. Issues friends with late model Harleys include overheating, engine failure, and high maintenance costs. I have had to spend far less on maintenance on my Kawasaki than a riding buddy who had a similar vintage Wide Glide. Primary drive maintenance was a big expense on his bike and is not an issue on a Japanese cruiser. At 100,000 miles, his engine was toast, even with by-the-book maintenance. He bought a new Harley to replace the Wide Glide several years ago. He and I took a trip together in 2001 when our bikes were new. My Nomad has 150,000 miles on the clock and shows no sign of needing a rebuild.

[@john_avery_smith1009]

It would be interesting to hear from a Harley designer engineer on the channel.

[@206-HoneyBadger]

As a young female, I bought my first HD in 2003. It was an '03 Fatboy Anniversary two-tone off the showroom floor. I sold it in 2011 for what I paid for it because of the condition I kept it in - became a bidding war. My next bike became the 48 and I can't imagine ever selling it even when I buy my next HD. The thing about HD's is that people love hearing them roar and I get lots of thumbs up for my bobber. I've had countless people wanting to take pics of themselves sitting on the American iconic motorcycle, and I have no problem with allowing them to do so. With a Harley, you never feel alone and lots of drivers respect HD riders on the road. This isn't always be said about the lawn-mower sounding bikes (sport bikes).

[@gypsyfirefly8009]

Valerie Quince... 🌺Hi Val, loved your post! It help me stick to my resolution to get my first at 54 yrs old. I hope I find some cool gal pals to ride with like you seem to be😎

[@206-HoneyBadger]

@@gypsyfirefly8009 You will. Ride safe. There are plenty of moto riders out there always looking for fellowship.

[@bryantchandler2925]

How about a Harley bagger vs. a BMW K1600B bagger when it comes to horsepower? Maybe a Yamaha V-Max? The Goldwing? Valkyries? Compare these and tell me why I should buy a Harley!

[@Imthebestaround88]

Bryant Chandler no ones telling you to buy a Harley

[@JohnDoe-jb7cr]

Get yourself a supermoto. Problem solved, you just win

[@MattLaidlaw]

Just rode one at a track 3 days ago. It was a blast.

[@tonydoc903]

Are Harleys overpriced. Not really, it all depends on what you want and how much you can afford. Even top road race bikes, Ducati,Yamaha,Honda,BMW,MVAgusta ,Suzuki even Norton have race bikes for sale at over £20-30k+. It’s all down to what the customer wants.👍

[@flipperdeluxe108]

Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how much of the wall you take with you.

[@harleydave5391]

Hi Matt Thanks for this video. I know it’s an older video but completely relevant today. It popped up on my recommended list. I agree with your thoughts big time. I finally bought my first Harley (2021 Road Glide Limited) last week. Traded a 2017 Honda Gold Wing I bought used last spring in on the deal. Nothing wrong with the Wing other than it’s totally devoid of any personality. The Harley has personality plus & I can’t wait to ride it. Cheers

[@joecat1973]

Harley uses enough foreign manufactured parts on the bikes now to be called an American owned motorcycle company instead of an American made motorcycle that's what's driving me away

[@manosmilonakis6056]

Fast forward to 2022. Harley has come up with a modern type engine the Revolution Max that doesn't look or sound like a Harley. They've came up with an adventure bike and as you said a completely electric one too and they've killed the Evolution engine in Europe and pretty soon everywhere esle too. It won't be long until the very essence of what Harley Davidson is for all these decades dies too unfortunately. Everything folds in the way of profit and greed.

[@ibtm]

Matt-Great video--I call that firing sequence of the Harley "The Heartbeat Of America!!!!!!!" Looking to buy a new silver CVO Ultra Limited in the spring!

[@mikebrunner1577]

Ok, so i watched the video. I have ridden almost every brand of bike, i would never trade my Road Glide for anything. My last touring bike was a 96 Goldwing. It did not even come close to the comfort i have on my Road Glide. Just saying.

[@CbusLowRider]

One other point that should be made: Most people that constantly hate on Harley Davidsons have never even actually ridden one. They draw their opinions off of internet garbage comments or stereotypical misconceptions about the brand and it's riders. Or the only one they have ridden, was some haggard ass 80's sportster or something. I encourage anyone to go to a Harley demo day that is interested in a cruiser style motorcycle. See for yourself. No, they aren't for everyone. Just don't form opinions based off stupid comparisons or a spec sheet alone. I can tell you that I absolutely love mine (2016 Low Rider S and 2004 Buell Lightning XB12S). Safe riding out there, everyone.

[@dtales77]

Cbus Low Rider yess you are right people are very negative whit everything nowadays HD is HD just ride the bike and enjoy life !!simple

[@SirLoinofBeef235]

Just posing on status symbols. Admit it

[@skibum247]

Hydraulic clutch is high tech? I have a 1982 honda with a hydraulic clutch. An under square engine is a great idea for a tractor. Yamaha built a Virago in 1981, it's a high tech version of a modern harley, single crank pin, 2 valves per cylinder, air cooled, OVERSQUARE. Has bottom end torque better than a harley with comparable displacement and will rev to 7000 rpm. better handling, better brakes, comfortable, light and nimble, stable on the highway... 37 years later and they still haven't caught up.

[@shenandoahhills7263]

Well, Matt. You have started a firestorm with your videos. The one thing that can be said is that owners bring a lot of passion to their riding. Many folks, who can afford it, have more than one bike. In my case after many years of riding, I now have a sport-tourer, an adventure duel sport, and the Harley. I enjoy each of them, but for different reasons. When riding, Harleys don't really mix with BMWs, KTMs, Italian or Japanese bikes. Most Harley riders tend to cruise along at moderate speeds and don't really press the corners. The guys on the sport-tourers generally travel at a more vigorous pace, and will charge the corners. The duel sport guys do their own thing on and off roads and also tend to scoot, while the pure sport bikes are in another realm as are the dirt bikes. When i was a kid we sure had fun on 50cc mopeds. Nice that we have choices.

[@tombyrne1142]

I agree. I have a BMW, two Honda and a Suzuki, in addition to my Ultra Classic. Different tools for different jobs. However, my Ultra corners better than most people think it can. I can keep up with most people on sportier tourers.

[@jerryhubbard4461]

That HD will be running when all others are scrapped

[@deepwood4]

I would love to debate you on this video. It does nothing to support your claim in the title. Very misleading and unintelligent points made.

[@battlebornhd3030]

Not misleading at all.... this video was very factual and straight forward. Why debate what he’s saying? If you don’t like the brand, don’t buy it. Pretty simple.

[@dennism103]

I use to be a sportbike guy too. Then I got older went to BMW then to hd, I'm very pleased won't go anywhere else...

[@mrkapusta9935]

you could also just enjoy a nice glass of stfu .

[@NorfolkSouthern-xt3xx]

You DEFINITELY cleared up a lot of the misconceptions for me! I'm ready to sll my 2017 Ninja 300 already and get an 883 Superlow! At 54 years old,..I'm asking myself why in the hell I started with a sport bike! How many 54 year old men ride sport bikes?