🔴 They Tried to STEAL My Leica .. (Lisbon)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

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[@cameraprepper7938]

My tip, always carry your shoulder bag with the strap across your body, so no one can snatch it quickly, keep your Camera in the bag as much as possible and lock the lid proper. I you want to feel more secure, then always carry a very rugged monopod, most buttheads will think twice if you have a monopod !!! 😉

[@michaelwhiles5282]

Buy a Sony instead - once they have seen the colour rendering they'll hand it you back....

[@smith507]

Hahahaha

[@guillaumesandmayer7053]

That's hilarious 😊

[@jlwilliams]

Or you could shoot with a Leningrad. The big risk here is that someone will hold you at knifepoint and force you to accept a second Leningrad.

[@jonlouis2582]

Best laugh I've had all day, thanks.

[@mynewcolour]

Lecturing an assailant on the subject of Leica cameras is a viable defence mechanism.

[@joao.s.cardoso]

I’m from Portugal and I usually go to Lisbon with my silver Leica Q and other places. One of the tips I can give is to be aware of your surroundings and make eye contact with people you may think are taking notice of you. When they notice you are aware of them, they will probably be less at ease to try to approach you. Also don’t be alone. If you are with family or friends it’s safer. Plus keep your bag in front of you and secured. In a way that is obvious that it would be hard to take the bag from you. If you notice that someone is approaching you in a suspicious way take your phone out and pretende you are making an video. That will make the other person think twice before approaching you because they don’t like to be filmed. Also don’t ever leave your bag unattended on settle down on the ground or on a chair. Always keep your bag with you in a way that no one can just pull it até take it in a easy way. Lisbon is a safe place but as with any city in Europe there are people that live your stuff. Be safe. Cheers

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Joao! Great tips. I think it was the unplanned me making strong I contact with the first guy that may have bought me some time to walk off quick.

[@richmatthews9344]

Sorry to hear this Matt, great tips you provide, I hope you weren’t hurt, take care and keep up the awesome content 💪🏻

[@E6MND]

Hiplok sell reinforced reusable cable ties, which might be useful to stop opportunists if you’re at a cafe or a restaurant. I can’t see anyone removing an awkward chair/bag and out pacing me if I’m right next to it.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@E6MND great thanks! Love that

[@richardt1792]

I live in California. Our thieves are not that discriminating, they'll bust a $1000 windshield to steal a nickel off your dashboard.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Richard, sorry to hear

[@chrisevans3459]

Nice one Matt and I'm glad you're ok. I do a lot of shooting in SF in very sketchy areas. Here's what I have learned over the years 1) I don't shave or wash my hair when I'm going out to shoot. The scruffier the better. 2) I wear old clothes that are stained and beat up. 3) My camera is always attached to me via a clip which I lock, or a wrist strap. 4) I have big hands and shoot either a CL or a Q2. I carry the camera with my hand wrapped wround the front and close to my body only pulling it out to shoot. 5) My strap clip is on "backwards" so I clip the camera in with the strap facing out and the camera in close to my body. I also position the camera so it's down near my hip where I can obscure it with my arm. 6) Whenever possible I shoot with my back to something. Even if it's a pole. And I always check my surroundings before I shoot. 7) When I get "latched on to" meaning someone is scoping me, I immediatly go into the first building I can find. Doesn't matter what it is. Malls and train stations are great because they're public, have security, and usually have multiple exits. 8) If you are shooting in a bad area and are going back several days in a row. People will remember you. Going to local businesses and meeting the locals can help a lot. If people percieve you as not a stranger to the neighborhood it reduces the impression that you are a "mark". 9) You are totally right. How you move is extremely important. You need to glide. Shoot in the shadows towards the light. 10) I also never turn on my LCD or pull out my phone. Stay dark and pay attention to your surroundings at all times. Thanks again for the vid!!! I always enjoy your stuff instagram.com/notthatchrisevans/

[@jpm74]

How sad that’s what you have to do now in San Francisco to do photography. What a mess. In Tokyo you can walk around with a Leica Hermes at 2am in the morning on the train and have the greatest street photography experience of your life without a second thought given to crime.

[@chrisevans3459]

@@jpm74 It does suck. It's sad to see what many cities are bocoming these days. That being said, I also have an affinity for sketchy places. Iwalk into it knowing that I am going to be in a potentially dangerous environment. So that's on me!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Chris, great list! I'll include some in the blog post i'll make on viewers top tips! MrLeica.com (I do the hold camera into body and ideally shoot with back to wall /post (especially when wearing a backpack too).

[@spektrograf]

All 10 of these are right on in any urban environment. I’ll add when I’m traveling, I’ll inevitably need to use my phone to orient. I will casually drop into a spot on the street where i can’t be approached from behind me with limited approach at my flanks. I can take an inventory of those around me then do what I need to do quickly then move on. Been doing similar work in mixed environments for decades and situational awareness and decisiveness is part and parcel when out and about.

[@HopefulForever-ln5xm]

I’ve been shooting for street for 20+ years. Hoodlums go after tourists with cameras. They don’t know what a Leica are. They see a rich looking tourist and assume your camera is expensive. I’ve carried my silver Leica MP all over the world. I don’t hang it around my neck. I wrap the strap around my wrist and keep it down until I see a scene I want to shoot. I don’t carry a spare lens or camera so I don’t carry a camera bag. I keep 5 rolls of film in my pocket. I also dress like a local as much as possible.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks great tips.. yes I definitely stood out as "please rob me" ..I know for next time. You sound like you shoot like a "proper" street shooter.

[@Paul-jb6rk]

This. The wrist strap carry is far more difficult to even spot someone is carrying a camera. Plus it makes it a lot easier to convert to a weapon. I would go down fighting with my Leica.

[@Cyber_Smith]

My late wife, who was from Buenos Aires, use to tell me she could easily pick out Americans overseas. I didn't believe her until I started traveling to Buenos Aires with her. I soon discovered she was right. You can tell by the way they move, their posture, the way they carry themselves. (Also, they're the fat ones.) I don't know if this is true of other nationalities. But I would assume criminals can spot a foriegner in there country.

[@Biosynchro]

​@@Cyber_Smith The fat ones! 😆 It's so sad...

[@patrickoloan4446]

Agreed - there’s no point taping up a Leica because thieves will look at it and assume it’s £50 worth of old film camera. They really don’t know what a Leica is, or that it’s expensive. They’d much prefer a a massive dslr and lens combo, but they’ll take any camera bag in a pinch. Wrist strap and some basic street awareness will get you through most situations.

[@jacquesmathurin8389]

If I was a camera thief, I would steal all the cameras with black tape on them as they have to be the most expensive ones!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Haha, yes maybe they know this by now!

[@86BBUB]

The most important tip - In most cases this is not a "Leica" issue. The kind of people that steal cameras and wristwatches are not sophisticated international art thieves. What's true for Leica and Rolex (in this context) is equally valid for Sony and Omega. That said they are not stupid. Black tape is not going to convince them that it's not worth stealing; in fact it might signal value. Have insurance and freely give up replaceable gear when it is demanded. Better than a knife in the chest.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks yes wise words re. give it up rather than serious injury.

[@smith507]

Living in Mexico and being both pickpocketed and held at knife point in the past there's always this sensation of being observerd and ready to be jumped on. As you said, blending is important as well as not carrying a lot of equipment. One advice I would give is to never appear to be lost, even if you are, just walk like you know your way around. I have a small fuji X-E3 to walk around most places so I leave bigger equipment for when I'm in venues or walking with a larger group of people I know. Also, SLRs get more unwanted attention than rangefinders because they're preceived as more pro oriented.

[@ericvaleraphotography27]

If I was a photographer in Mexico I'd take and RPG with my cam just to be discreet😜

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Ricardo and good tip on small cameras/ don't appear lost.

[@cameronkrause4712]

good tip!!!

[@Gynra]

A few years back, I spent five months travelling around the USA on a work project, in places which included Washington DC, New York, San Francisco, Baltimore, Boston, etc. Whenever I checked into a hotel in every new place, I made a habit of asking which parts of the city I should avoid. I didn't have any scares all the time I was out there. I didn't own a Leica then, just a Pentax. But those are excellent tips, Matt.

[@flyinggeometry]

San Francisco they will told you to avoid all the photogenic location 😂

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Great tip Brian, thanks! I'll add it to the blog post to follow

[@XboxTheBeatboxer]

Tip 11: Lift weights. Walk confidently.

[@XboxTheBeatboxer]

Glad you’re okay!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes great tip thanks. I do need to get back to weights, i'm a cardio bunny currently.

[@XboxTheBeatboxer]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom We all need to run!

[@SavedbybGrace]

I was in Paris, 2001, had a Leica M6 around my neck and a Canon 1DS with 70-200L attached on my shoulder. I was working as a pro back home and accustomed to having the gear attached everywhere I went. So this guy spots me, and instantly the two fellas with him spin their head in my direction. I immediately made a rapid exit in the opposite direction and into the nearest shop. Lost them. A couple of days later, I was at the Metro catching a train to the airport and I asked a guy which platform to get the correct train. I was double checking. He pointed to where I needed to go. I descended on a long escalator, got to the platform and it was dead, nobody on it. I straight away hopped on the up escalator... half way to the top... guess who was coming down? Yea, that guy.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Paul, no way, that's nuts and way to calculated. I would have totally fallen for that. Glad to hear you made it out with your cameras.

[@FFVoyager]

The flash bag is what a lot of people forget. I have some fairly unassuming Tenba bags (8, 11 and 15) but if I think they are too showy for the environment the inserts can be removed and dropped into anything. One you didn't mention is neckstraps. I'd avoid anything branded (or bright red!) But I'm careful about taking too much stuff anywhere - if you are not carrying it you'll be leaving it where you are staying when you are out. And stuff does get nicked from hotels (and AirBnB's) when it's left unattended.

[@jorgemtrevino]

The most "stealth" bag is the everpresent backpack, used by young and old alike, locals and travelers. There are several designed for photography that defeat analysis.

[@montazownianr1]

@@jorgemtrevino can't find any...

[@olafrotkohl5898]

A heavy, dense object like a Leica swung at the end of a strap can be a formidable weapon and can give you the space you need to escape. However, it’s not worth your life against a serious attacker to hang onto your gear. Situational awareness is key-as a photographer, you should naturally have a keen awareness around you, looking for that next shot, but one also has to be able to clock threats. At 6’2” and 100 kilos, I haven’t been robbed yet, but I’m getting older and slower, so my best defense is to be on alert all the time. It might seem exhausting, but it actually is a fun game. Also, I have clothes that look rather down-market, with a lot of wear on them. If anything, I look more like a malefactor than a tourist.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Olaf, yes i'm very aware of my space and I think that's what helped me.. I could see it happening in slow motion so moved myself as fast as I could.

[@jpm5205]

Why is this any of "your fault?" It's not Matt. Crime is that community's fault and, unfortunately, it is what ever that community deserves. That's why Tokyo is a photographer's paradise. You don't have to give one passing thought to your safety or being robbed because the Japanese people have class.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, yes the same in Dubai too.

[@CianMcsweeney]

The people of Lisbon are lovely, welcoming and have a beautiful city that ranks as one of the safest capitals in Europe. Criminals exist everywhere, no matter the culture, society etc. even in Japan.

[@jpm74]

@@CianMcsweeney Cian - while a nice sentiment, that’s not reality and an awfully pollyanish statement about the state of the world. Lisbon is charming and beautiful no doubt, but your efforts to equate Tokyo with Lisbon from a safety perspective is just flat disinformation.

[@CianMcsweeney]

@@jpm74 not trying to equate them, I just dislike the subtext behind the idea of crime reflecting the values or disposition of a people or culture, it's a shallow way of looking at real problems.

[@davidlarson3419]

Good to know, Tokyo is where I am headed next. But I am going to black out the Leica name on my SL 2 , something I have thought about ever since I got it a couple years ago.

[@soda5730]

Sadly, the bottom line here is don't own nice things if you don't want to be robbed. Goes for everything from watches to cameras and, in some places, even clothes. By the way, Matt, I have been following you since the early flickr days. Have always found your photography incredible and content informative and fresh. I love how you've always remained humble and accessible. Keep up the great work.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thank you and yes agreed it can be all nice things. Thanks for the feedback / follow from my early days!

[@LucyS565]

Many years ago when I was carrying my medium format camera and all the lenses, I was shooting in a park that is very notorious for shady people. I was shooting a woodpecker when a policeman came up to me and suggested I don't walk around with such expensive equipment. It was nice of him, and I took his advice. Excellent advice Matt, thanks! I'm so glad you and your camera are OK.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Lucy, I was worried what story you were going to tell. I'm glad you were OK too.

[@AspectRatioPolice]

After living in some rough areas i would add: . if you notice someone following you, walk into an official buiding, shop or petrol station where there are CCTV cameras. thieves hate those places, and prefer to lose you. Leave your passsport and Visa cards at the hotel, Carry a photocopy of your ID and some $50 cash in case you are mugged. and have a cheaper phone for the rough areas. I carry an iphone SE so I can keep all my settings from the 12 pro.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Great tips thanks! I'll make a blog post with viewers tips too and will add yours.

[@Cookerab]

Monopod with a ball head can be used defensively.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Ha thanks Adam, yes! I carry with my Hassy sometimes.

[@Phil.Austin]

Some great advice Matt. I have 4 lenses (older affordable ones) and the only silver one (Summarit 5cm) is the one I use least because its shiny :) . I've also started using a wrist strap and got rid the shoulder/neck strap to further avoid notice, this has work very well for me feeling more comfortable and less conspicuous.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Philip, yes I only use wrist straps on my 35mm cameras.

[@LunarCatOnAir]

Good for you to be safe after that! A tip I’ve used with M is to wear it on one shoulder under a jacket/coat/light vest whatever, lens turned in against my chest. Shows even less longer with hyperfocal. But I guess there’s always be bad guys. Loved your inspiring work on Flickr for years. What lovely models you happen to work with. Must be a torture. Take care.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Gilles! The models are no accident. Many hours searching and flights to find them.

[@throtol]

Matt, first off, I am glad that you did not get hurt. I usually have two cameras with me when I am taking street photography. Aside from walking confidently as if you know where you are and where you are going. Dress down in a T shirt and basic jeans. I usually wear ankle boots and a jacket depending on the weather. The jacket will hide the camera(s) from direct view. I also have both a neck and wrist strap. The last point I need to make here is to be aware of the amount of film used, battery drain and switching lens. During any one of these activities, you will be distracted and vulnerable. I usually ensure that I am around a small crowd of people, or inside a lobby, or even at time in a restroom. Stay safe out there.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, yes all OK but a great wake up call for me. Yes a M camera under a jacket or scarf is a great way to walk I think. In the summer it is less easy for me as I'm always too warm haha. Thanks for sharing.

[@jokerberlin964]

Keep a small set-up like a GM-1 and its small lens (a 15, a 42.5/45 or a Sigma 60) or any other small set-up such as a Leica X1/2 or X-Vario or a film Leica, both black on a hand-grip that tightens when pulled and hold it in your hand. It's hardly visible. Take a simple looking PacSafe bag that has metal webbing to protect against cuts and a metal reinforced shoulder strap and wear it cross-body.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, great tips for serious street shooters! ..I have small Lumix for video but I tend to shoot film/ Leica or nothing ..just what inspires me

[@jokerberlin964]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I recently got myself a M240 to make use of various M mount and LTM lenses. Love that with the ZM 28, the VM 75 (2.5) and the Leica 2/40. Also have the Epson RD-1S and the Zeiss Ikon ZM for those. I guess the best travel camera for me if not taking clandestine shots of people (moving fast, hence the GM1/Sigma 60 combo) is the Leica X-Vario. The results are truly stunning. The TL2 with the 23 (35) is nice for street photography (not a fan of the 18), and the zooms like the 11-23 on the TL2 and the 55-135 on the CL are super - if you one wants to lug around more for travel. I just love your work and was intrigued to learn about your photography journey!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@jokerberlin964 great and many thanks 🙏🏻

[@d30gaijin]

I would add; secure the camera to your body with either a wrist strap with your hand through it or a neck strap over the neck/diagonal across your body. Don't carry a camera with a strap over one shoulder. It can easily be pulled off you by a thief running or motoring by. I am glad you didn't lose your Leica.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Don and great tip!

[@ChrisWhittenMusic]

I have done a large amount of wandering world cities with my camera. I'm not ex-SAS, or a security expert. Maybe I have just developed a sixth sense when things are starting to get sketchy. But I've wandered out through abandoned industrial areas, back alleys in cities etc and never had a problem. I would never ask a hotel where to go because they will send you to Times Square, Trafalgar Square etc type places. I only ever carry one small camera with lens attached. I do have my Leica logo taped over, I'm not sure criminals know what a Leica is. I would never walk around with one of those large SLR's with a huge lens attached. If you are testing multiple lenses I would stick to busy public areas. If you want to see areas only the locals go to, just take one camera, one lens and have fun.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Chris, great tips!

[@mpw621]

Great tips. I was Paris in the 80's , wanting to take off my coat, put the camera on bench, took off the coat, the camera was gone! My girlfriend was there as well, did not even notice the person stealing the camera. The camera was a Petri SLR film camera.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks and sorry to hear :(

[@weisserth]

Forgot to mention the most important piece of advice: ALWAYS be aware of your surroundings. Walk with confidence, walk like you belong. Dress non-flashy, dull, without brand logos all over your body. Carry only the gear you need. For street, that's one small camera and one or two lenses. I've shot in dodgy areas in Europe, Asia and the US for ~20 years, no issues so far - mostly because of that top piece of advice. If you think a situation is gonna get dicey, leave while you can. For that to work, you need to have full situational awareness.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks TW, yes I definitely did pretty much everything wrong this time except stand of the guy who approached me.

[@weisserth]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I'm glad you managed to get out of the situation OK. Many European cities provide a false sense of security; I think on the top of my shit list of such places that can be actually much less safe than what one thinks they are: Lissabon, Brussels, Barcelona - I've lived many years in Brussels and still it wasn't always easy to know when or where to expect trouble - I've been mugged on a subway train in central Brussels as a teenager in Brussels once, they stripped me of my shoes too, I had to walk home on socks... It was a good lesson in situational awareness that stuck with me and serves me well when photographing out and about

[@ducgerard2361]

One time i have lost my cameras And lenses in India because i used A photo bag... Thé best thing To Do is to use a bag of supermarkt And put a towel on your gear...

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Duc, yes cheap bags are the best way for sure. (The sachel in the video I took when I was in India!)

[@Skipsul]

One old timer told me that he always threaded piano wire through his straps - camera and bag both. Prevented theft attempts by knife slashes to straps.

[@MtRevDr]

Certain high crime rate area has special shop to install steel wire for bags and cameras. Ask if such shop exist and get wired.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks James, great pro tip. I think Black Rapid straps were designed with the same concept. (I don't use those*)

[@gfeucht]

That being said, if someone has a knife and wants my stuff, I really don't want to piss him off too much by having a cut-resistant strap.

[@alexandermenzies9954]

@@MtRevDr I have a Pacsafe (narrowish) camera strap with a titanium wire insert. Hard to say if it's effective or not since no one has had a try.

[@StreetSnappers]

Good tips, Matt and I follow most of them myself (I'm a pro street photographer). I shoot in Lisbon a lot so it's quite concerning to hear of your experience - I've always been fine so far. Can I ask where you were shooting? I'm guessing Mouraria? Separately, I heard two stories in the last few weeks of Leica shooters being mugged for the cameras in London in broad daylight - one outside Selfridges on a Friday afternoon by two guys on a moped. So I guess we all need to watch out.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi, yes London is just as bad for sure. I forget the names of the places, one was a centre square at the bottom of the road straight up to the airport, the trouble I had was in the tourist area at the top of the incline tram (single track one).

[@imjasonennis3624]

Martim Moniz can be sketchy as hell, especially at night. (I assume that’s where you’re talking about). The other area sounds like Bairro Alto? The funicular from R. S Paulo? I’ve been to Lisbon loads over the years and have never had issues. Unfortunately this sounds like an isolated issue that could happen anywhere. Do you speak any Portuguese?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@imjasonennis3624 thanks. ‘MM’ - yes very sketchy! No only English. It’ll still visit again, I’ll just be smarter next time.

[@mrstandfast2212]

If you're not sure about the area, or if you know it's dodgy, carry a Praktica or Zenith camera. These are weighty and strong enough to do some proper cranial distortion to your would be assailant. Chances are that these cameras will still work perfectly afterwards. This reply isn't entirely flippant, I like to shoot in city centre Manchester, and I favour an old Praktica MTL3 with an f2 Biotar fitted. Great pictures and a legal carry 'offensive weapon' if required.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Haha thanks! Yes I know what you mean. I have an old Zenit but I’ve never used it.

[@andyjones5192]

I’ve been travelling for work for the last 20 years across the globe, even to war and conflict zones and no issues. Funnily only in Lissabon once a gang of kids tried to circle us in and rob us. It’s better to run then… You have to become “street smart” over time. Sometimes it’s better to keep your Leica gear at home. Good preparation is everything. Know where you are going before. If it’s dodgy I always carried a pocketable Panasonic with me that could be stolen without worries. And best advice…most of the kit gets actually stolen in hotels itself. Use the dam safe. Always! Big advantage of Leica over a DSLR. Much easier to get your kit locked away. Stay safe. Andy

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Andy and great tip about hotels. I think i've been lucky with that so far.. (and I book apartments).

[@Mowikan]

When are camera manufacturers protect us by putting a pin code that you have to enter when power the camera to on? Or a boot lock when not connected to a specific app on a telephone that can only be removed by the manufacturer.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Great idea. I think we are a way off that still.

[@PedroHipolito]

I’m sorry you got robbed on my city, Lisbon, that in general is very safe. What exactly happened? They took it under threat or without you noticing?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi Pedro, no they didn't actually take anything so all OK. I could see it was building up and I had a stand off with one gang guy.. it seemed like they were waiting til I was away from the other tourists but I made quick exit soon after the stand off. Gang members that approached me were a group working the popular tourist spot, the top of Funicular da Bica (Tall fast looking black youths).

[@PedroHipolito]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Ah, ok. Glad they didn’t succeed.

[@RS-Amsterdam]

And as an extra extra tip, when available, go for the P version without the obvious Red Dot and shoot with other people when possible. Good video although I haven't had problems whilst shooting cause my body type doesn't invite people to make trouble 😜

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks RS! Yes to P versions!

[@oldgittarist]

Glad you're Ok, Matt. Good advice.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Mark, I'll get to the planned Lisbon videos soon. As you can imagine this one wasn't planned.

[@adriantang5811]

Sorry to hear that! Some great advice Matt!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Adrian

[@donaldgibson4459]

Glad that you mentioned this. Test pilot Chuck Yeager; (the guy that was the first to break the sound barrier) once said;"Don't wait for trouble". I learned that when I was 19. I was mugged by 3 guys ; in New York. Almost killed me. 1976. The police never found them. Now I take pictures of those types. I keep my distance. Sometimes I laugh at them too. I've been able to photograph criminals occasionally; durring a crime. I use a long lens; for that.! I met this guy; a cab driver; that saw this guy in a dress; being assulted; in a big city. He jumped out of his Taxi cab; to help stop ithe assult. Then two other guys jumped on him! Safety in numbers. That would my first choice. I've escaped on bicycle a few times in Portland, Oregon.; Durring the 2020 protesting there. A bicycle can be a good shield; and weapon too. That's just a theory. I'd hate to lose a good bicycle. Hit m hard, knock em down; kick the living crap out of them a bunch oh times ; then run. Oh I wish life was like in the movies. Like that movie The Matrix!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Donald and sorry to hear your stories.

[@gurugamer8632]

Hi is the optical performance of 35mm FLE1 Summilux and 35mm FLE2 Summilux the same? Is FLE2 designed for higher mega pixels like m11 ?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

I'm not 100% sure, you might need to Google it. I've not owned either lens sorry.

[@gurugamer8632]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom ok thank you

[@genie5320]

this is great... i have always wondered how dangerous it is while shooting streets across the globe. great to see all the comments

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Genie, yes some great tips in the comments.

[@davidselby8115]

Good advise thanks Matt

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks!

[@iSpike]

Step 11. Take a Giant Badass Bodyguard with you 😎, Step 12. Pack a Glock-45 Pistol under your Vest 🔫, Step 13. Be prepared to throw handgrenades into small crowds of thugs 🤯, Step 14. If you can’t beat them join them 🤡💩🤬☠️😵‍💫👹👀…🤣

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Haha thanks! :)

[@kcphotogeek6207]

There’s a reason why the Ricoh GRs are popular with street photographers pocketable, discreet and great quality. Also for street you don’t need the latest greatest most expensive camera. I use some small M43 cameras and even a Pentax MX-1 in addition to my GRIII, I live in Manila so it’s difficult to blend in when I’m out, but using pocketable setups are great way to fly under the radar

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks and good tip. I have some M43 bodies (I use them for some videos)

[@kevinparkes417]

All great advise. I would add use a sturdy wrist strap. It probably won't deter a determined mugger but it will stop a snatch-and-grab opportunist.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Kevin, yes 100%. I use wrist straps.

[@BrunoChalifour]

I am very sorry to hear that Matt. For having traveled and walked in not always the best part of towns, I, as you advised, only take one camera and one lens (black M6 or 10 with 35 mm K too; none is new). I always pay attention to my surroundings although acting relaxed, especially if I find myself alone in a not so "respectable" area. Most of the time, if I hold the camera, the strap (black too) is rolled around my wrist so the camera cannot be grabbed by surprise. If I have a small bag it is a shabby one (usually with a shammy skin to wrap the camera and protect it from dust, rain and knocks while in the bag), I have used the bag (I have two or three for that matter) for years and years and it shows. All the best

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Bruno, yes agreed with your points, I use a wrist strap instead of neck strap but otherwise great tips

[@georgedobre88]

Indeed , in Lisbon petty crime against tourists is very present, usually they approach you trying to sell weed and other things but also they are scanning for valuables , myself - i managed to shake off a group of four individuals that followed me for 15 min only when I found a security gard. I was keeping my tapped black M6 with black lens in a cheap bag and my clothes did not scream "tourist" - but I guess they saw the camera when I was shooting in the street . A local friend warned me about the fact that I should not underestimate the thieves knowledge of luxury items (watches, jewellery, cameras) and their organisation skills . I am glad that you get away with your gear and your health !

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks George, yes, my experience was very similar to yours but I managed to find a big gathering of people watching music so I waited in there for a bit then exited from a different direction. (They looked they were training younger ones too to out run tourists - mostly tall skinny youths working the steep tourist streets).

[@calvinchann1996]

They definitely look for people who are distracted by something else. That’s how one got my memory card holder in Venice.

[@g0ld3nb]

So sorry to hear about this Matt, I am originally from Lisbon before moving to London and I'm really sorry to hear you went through this. Unfortunately there are some areas that pick-pocketeers usually target, touristy areas like downtown and bairro alto for example also had someone try to grab my camera (even in the middle of a crowd) a few years back :( May I ask where this regrettable event took place? One more for my red list 😂 Anyway I'm glad you were able to get away, keep up the great photos/videos and don't give up on Lisbon ;)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thank you! Yes still keen to get back to Lisbon but i'll be smarter next time! It was at the top of the ..I forget the name, the steep trams that go into a shed at the bottom where people pay to ride them. Yes it looked very organised if you looked closely.

[@philiplevick5508]

Very sorry to hear about your bad experience Matt but glad you’re ok. Stay safe.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Philip, all OK, a good wake up call for future.

[@guillaumesandmayer7053]

Well this brings back a nightmare memory but I wasn't the victim. I'm located in Melbourne, Aus and once upon a time I worked for a small audio store about 6km out of the heart of the city, this small unassuming skinny kid who lived right in the central hub would visit the store proudly dangling his silver M10 complete with red soft shutter button and bright red Angelo Pelle straps around his pencil neck. You could not scream 'Look at me!' any louder if you tried. I remember telling him not once but on two occasions that he was dancing with the devil as certain parts of the Melbourne CBD are riddled with junkies and riffraff. He seemed unperturbed and even aloof towards my cautionary advice, I even pleaded that he atleast get a small black bag. But he was having nothing of it as it was clear that his beloved M10 was equally a street camera as much as it was a fashion statement and accessory. Keyword is - was - the devil did show up one day in broadlight and followed him into a sidealley and put a small knife to his neck asking him to hand it over or there would be blood. He understandably chose his life over his Leica and the thief ran off with it Sigh..

[@mynewcolour]

It was u wasn’t it?

[@christophecasse1006]

In the end, the bad guys will be more interested in someone looking unsafe, nervous, trying to hide his camera.... They will think : here's my victim, it looks expensive :-) This guy was maybe right and you were maybe wrong :-) you will never know.

[@guillaumesandmayer7053]

@@christophecasse1006 True that. Hence the paradox of it all,,,

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks for the wake up call and sorry to hear the story.

[@jimglenwright34]

I live near Los Angeles and was in downtown yesterday photographing the streets. Someone came up and said they noticed I had a Leica, wanted to know which one and how much it was. Replied I don’t discuss cost with anyone and left. He did not pursue me. But my camera gear is insured. Finally in Lisbon several years ago 2 people tried to get into my wife’s backpack. She caught them and they quickly crossed the street and disappeared. We were later told there are “organized” Eastern European gangs in Lisbon (and other cities) to steal from tourists. Not sure if it’s true but can say I caught some on attempting to steal from me in Milan back in September and that was “organized” with a baby stroller and a baby doll.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Jim, sorry to hear. Yes these youths were working the tourist area where I was 100% - some would cause a distraction and the others spotting the cameras etc.

[@ronhoffer2242]

As an international development specialist I've taken many trips over the decades into sketchy areas. You cover many of the key tips but for me the mist important are (1) leave the fancy gear and bags home -- my Leica M7 and Hasselblad kit stay in the US in lieu of some well used Fuji digitals and back in the day a Nikon F3 or FM. Domke makes great discreet bags; my current fave is the F-10 JD shoulder bag in green canvas, though I also use padded inserts in basic courier bags or totes, (2) carry a small kit; one body and 1-2 lenses -- though all must be tried and true and robust, (3) if you want to capture a scene with sketchy people, introduce yourself and make some small talk before you ask to snap away, and (4) if there is a real threat, smile and hand over the gear!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Ron and yes good tip on ask before photographing sketchy people!

[@monsoonlight9632]

Great tips and experiences. When photographing in an unknown area anywhere, I try to go as a team, with the second person being a 'spotter' who does no photography at all. So far it has worked, fingers crossed.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks good tip.. I wouldn't like to be alone with a TLR where i'm blind on 3 sides.

[@carlseibert9015]

Back in the sixties and seventies black cameras were somewhat hard to come by, especially Leicas. Many less-than-wealthy photojournalists (which would be MANY photojournalists) made "black" cameras with electrical tape and tiny scissors. With patience, you can do a pretty credible job. I still have one of those as a keepsake.

[@jorgemtrevino]

I've covered my black M10 red logo and on my MP Leica brand on the top deck. For the round logo I used a round template printed in Photoshop and used an Exacto knife to cut it over a piece of electrical tape and for the MP script it was a simple rectangle.

[@carlseibert9015]

@@jorgemtrevino A lot of people seem to cover the red dot. I think the main reason is to deter the people who stare or approach and make comments . Personally, I think people are going to do that anyway. I get "Is that a Leica?", or "Oh, nice camera. I've never seen one like that" all the time, even if I'm using my Fuji or my Typ 246 (which is dot-less). So I don't think the dot is the big thing.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Carl, great story!

[@ulfjonsson2122]

I experienced the same in New York in the mid 80:ties ( wrong place at the wrong time ), scared like hell! Great tips!!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Sorry to hear Ulf and thanks!

[@jeffstephens5266]

I wander around Bangkok day and night with my Leica, never felt threatened or in danger. It’s a great street photography city

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Great! Maybe i'll get to visit one day

[@johnfrancis166]

I have a black Leica D Lux 109 for street photography. It is small, black and indiscreet and I carry it with a wrist strap that is also black. These parameters fit all of your suggestions for "keeping your Leica" but some people still recognize the "red dot" and compliment me. I get fantastic images from this 10+ year old Leica D Lux 109 camera that I purchased used on eBay over 2 years ago. I wish I could afford the Q or the M model Leica but if the images you get from those cameras are better than my Leica D Lux 109 I think I have died and gone to heaven. Thanks for the great video.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks John, yes if you win the lottery get yourself a Q. You’ll love it! (Welcome to heaven!)

[@johndoane7200]

Shooting “Opera in the Park” Beverly Sills, et Al, while loading film into a silver Leica flex with a 19mm lens, sitting on the bench across from me were three teens from t’ hood discussing how they might steel my kit. One ended the speculations saying, that shytes steel, get hit in t’ head with it, we could die. I replied, “cool, have a nice day”. I used to keep my M4 in a crumpled brown paper bag. Stolen in front of a liquor store, so much for going strath. I now just paste my gear with “sponge Bob” stickers, wear Hawaiian shirts and talk to myself about Chinese Ballon’s.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks John and yes the Leicaflex would hurt to be fair to the teens haha - solid cameras :)

[@wilfredshum3703]

How to hide the photo gear in the hotel when you do not want to carry everything out? That is one of the major reasons why I always try to pack less in my trips overseas.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes I try to tuck things out of sight.

[@edwardferry8247]

I’ve been saying this as a new Hasselblad X2D owner in comments on those making videos re street photography. I wouldn’t go into any city in Britain taking pictures with a Hasselblad or Leica. It’s £10,000 plus of equipment we are openly wandering around with, people get mugged for basic phones. I stick to rural scenes, landscapes and still life and perhaps much safer countries than the UK if ever shooting in public.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Edward, yes the same problem is for Hassy cameras too ofc. Yes what you do makes good sense.

[@husshardan3511]

I don't know if taping up the camera helps, as thieves tend to know if something is of value. To them a camera is something of value. But being discrete in other ways is helpful- do not carry a big bag of gear! Do not carry a fancy bag. When I first got into Leica I did all those goofy things - bought expensive bags to match the cameras etc. Now I just use those for storage and when I go out, I use a free nylon bag that came with a Pentax P30 film camera! It looks super a$$ cheap, but works perfectly, so it's what I pick. And just use one lens. A small one. And go have fun.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! I'm a slow learner but getting there slowly (The guy that bought the Leica camera, Leica lenses, Leica adapter, Billingham bag..) Great tips.

[@palamj2]

I’m off to Europe (from Australia) in August. My M11 won’t be coming with me. My Fuji X-T3 will be hanging off my shoulder.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi John, depending on where you go i'm sure many travel with their M11s. Fuji my be less stress though. I will take my CL next time.

[@charlespitts5901]

When I travel, I leave 100% of my jewelry/watches at home. I wear a satchel under my pants or an ankle wallet. My latest camera carry is a Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZR1 with a 25mm to 200mm equivalent LEICA lens (yes, LEICA lens). It's a CCD "film like" sensor digicam. No one looks twice at it. I highly recommend it for travel. Added bonus of zoom range without carrying a bag of lenses. Fits in any pocket. Stunning results.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Charles and cool camera!

[@stevebarnett5048]

A bit of contrasting colour tape, silver on a black camera etc. stuck scruffily at an angle across the red dot, logos, etc. can make it look like the tape is holding the camera together so not worth stealing

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Steve, good tip.

[@JeffreyHauser]

Sorry to hear about your misfortune, Matt. I photograph in a park, close to my home residence but I am always apprehensive despite the fact that the park is within walking distance to my house. I am saddened that this is something that happens in many cities throughout the world, everyday, in addition to even more serious crimes. Be vigilant & careful as you can be, regardless of what you may believe is a relatively “safe” area. Hoping all good things for your future, Matt.😊🙏❤️

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Jeffrey, I'll try to be more careful too in the future

[@ebouwens]

Black gaffer tape is ideal to cover up any logos or other lettering on a black camera. Because of it 's black matte finish it blends in nicely with the black paint of the camera. Because of it's fabric backing, it rips nicely into just the right size for covering any lettering or logos. I don't have Leica, but I want to reduce the attractiveness of any of these features when traveling.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, great tip!

[@jc.baptiste]

Sorry for the trouble and thanks for the tips. I cannot understand what you are saying at the end of tip 1, could you give the link to the blog post please ?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Hi sorry for the late answer, it's taking some time to answer the hundreds of comments on this one! Here is the link - mrleica.com/leica-m-typ-240-arrives/ (ignore title)

[@jc.baptiste]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom No problem at all and thanks a lot ! You are awesome 😎

[@robertchristian6910]

To fend off strap cutters (was popular here) weave a heavy unwound guitar string into the strap. Worked for me!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Great tip Robert, thanks!

[@Cervantesbracetty]

Thanks for the tips! I am buying my second Leica body tomorrow. The first one I have someone literally tried to grab it from around my neck and I had to run away lol This happened in nyc where I live! I was trying to figure out how to get somewhere and had google maps open on my phone so I looked like a total tourist. So my tip. Be aware of where you’re going while carrying around expensive equipment. If you must pull out your phone and open google maps turn your brightness Down. Goodluck everyone (:

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Wow keep safe! Black cameras are better for sure. See the next new video for a small lens perfect for street!

[@artemkanaki9274]

the most stealthy street kit for me is leica q2 mono and ricoh gr3. the mono version doesn’t have leica logo, and it’s painted in grey tones. and the image quality is outstanding. the ricoh is probably the best street camera. it’s small, it’s light, it has a great lens.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Artem, yes Leica without logo are better for this for sure.

[@andychandler3992]

I've had run ins with the homeless who've... yeah... So I normally take a cheap setup into the field when I'm doing digital. Xpro1 (vs xpro2) etc. The city I am in have really embolden a lot of people and so I had a situation where a guy tried to ask me for the shoes I was wearing. There's one thing I'm not sure you mentioned: travel in packs. The local photography store, often one of the associates wants to stretch his legs so its nothing to call him, set up a time and go out with a second person.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Andy, sorry to hear and great tip to travel in groups.

[@andychandler3992]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I also limit my times. OK, so one time I'm out is actually around 3-6. Rush hour, and I make sure i'm not too far from a main thoroughfare. Plus that's usually around golden hour anyway. I fear one of the biggest illusions we have doing street is that "the world is your oyster." however, when you do your research (as you pointed out) normally the area that is good for street is actually pretty minimal. Having been a safety officer in my nearby city I normally am pretty good with most people and the streets. But something also to mention: it doesn't have to be another photographer. You can bring a friend for a walk... I often go with my wife.

[@davidroberts6766]

Very sorry to hear about your experience Matt. Hopefully, it was not too traumatic for you. As a guy who worked as a prosecutor for 3 decades, none of this is your fault. You are the victim, full stop. However, in the non- perfect world we reside in, the black on black, one camera, for street is the best tip. I am 2.04m, 140 kilos, and, sadly, that helps too! Be well, Matt.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks David, me being 6ft might have helped me slightly when eye to eye with the first guy.

[@Mike-vd2qt]

Glad you are fine and did not get attacked during the assault. Main things, your health and live for another day.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Mike and yes I think it was a good wake up call for me. (to remember the value of kit i'm flashing around when taking photos).

[@HartponderJr]

Always be aware of your transitional spaces. Changing directions abruptly or using barriers allows you to see if you are being followed. I do-not change lenses in public. I use a small black messenger bag with one body in the messenger bag, and one camera body on me. One body has a wide lens and the other a 50 or 85 (this also keeps the dust way down by not removing the lens outdoors). I will take out one or the other but never both at the same time. I can do this swap while walking nonchalantly. Camera strap is thin and black, wide straps with colorful stripe with the camera logo is an attention getter (besides looking amateur).

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Hart, great tip on not having multiple cameras out at once. I failed this for sure! ..and good tip re. the strap choice.

[@jeromearnould9940]

Ouch bad story ... good you were not stolen and you are safe !

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Jerome, a good wakeup call!

[@gurugamer8632]

In the UK the cost of film is very expensive now. What does this mean for film photographers? Will the price continue to go up? Will film photographers move to digital?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes it keeps going up. I use mostly B&W film Fomapan as a good price.

[@gurugamer8632]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I’ll check it out Fomapan, which ISO do you buy?

[@andrewmahon4290]

I bought a silver M11 and 35mm Summilux in London earlier this year and had a guy attempt to snatch it on my first trip out with the camera (in Kensington)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Sorry to hear Andrew, yes even the Leica dealers in central London tell people to watch out now (Like when I borrow a camera to test).

[@thestudio2015]

Great tips. I think the point of carrying less cameras, and not going to the places that may be considered dodgy is the most important parts. It doesn't matter how you dress, or if you have a tape over the Leica symbol. People will steal your camera when they seen an OPPORTUNITY. Have a camera strap and have the camera always in front of you. Not to the side or back. This is the most important thing. I've seen videos where a photography is surrounded by multiple people and they ask him a question and essentially over crowd him and unscrew the lens. Then they pass the large lens to each other. If you see yourself being surrounded or people asking for directions, have the camera in front of you. OPPORTUNITY is your biggest enemy.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thank you, noted!

[@northstar1950]

The only Leica I have that I cannot fit a strap is my Ia as it has no strap lugs. The others do and when I'm out and about I always wrap the strap around my wrist rather than around my neck. Although I don't frequent dodgy places but it can happen anywhere. Most of my Leica are screw thread ones anyway and I assume the low lives wouldn't recongise them anyway. Some good tips Matt.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, yes i'm taking more Barnacks next time I think. For the body without lugs attach strap via tripod mount. I do this with Leica Standard. Works great for wrist straps.

[@grahvis]

I did hear of someone who taped up their Nikon with pink surgical tape which did gather bits of fluff etc. He was mugged in South America, but they left his camera.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

True or not it's funny about the camera, thanks!

[@GONZOFAM7]

Sorry that happened to you Matt. It's a horrible feeling. Nothing says "Leica" like a taped up Leica. You are fooling yourself if you think pick pockets and thieves don't know who is who and what has value. They know these tips too. I've live in Italy, middle east, Philippines and traveled all over the world. Foreigners (you and me) are obvious, it's very difficult to blend in. We kept aware of our surroundings. We asked our hotel and wait staff for places to look out for. Then we didn't go there. They are looking for what they perceive to be easy targets. My advice try not to look vulnerable. Walk confidently and don't make yourself and easy target. You may still have something stolen but they also may just choose someone who looks easier.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Jaime, and yes totally agee on not making self an easy target, thanks!

[@Red-xz1gk]

Thank you for sharing. Wonder if it is safe to use Leica Cameras in other major European cities these days.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

I think most big cities you need to be careful, London, Paris, Barcelona etc

[@zachminers9952]

Good one! Another tip, similar to the silver lens tip: Use small lenses! Like the Voigtlander Nokton Classic. :)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Zach, yes absolutely. I had a Mamiya 6 on me which wasn't helping! Small Barnacks win for sure!

[@zachminers9952]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Sorry about what happened.

[@52goldtop]

Thanks for putting this together Matt, sucks that this happened to you, I don’t comment at all here but I get a lot of enjoyment out of your videos. Hearing you blame yourself so much hurts, I mean this is what it’s come to, so I get it… Still, whenever I hear these stories (including the recent robberies in the Bay Area here in CA), I always think of this Charles Bronson Camera scene: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKWWZHiid7FopKs Cheers brother and stay safe out there :)

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks for commenting/ watching. I think it was a good wake up call for me for the mentioned points.

[@karikaru]

LOL that clip was great - likewise think Matt needs to go easy on himself calling himself a "dumb ass." Not your fault bad people exist. I was fleeced by some pickpockets in Istanbul. Saw them heading for us and told my wife to keep her head up and put our bags in front of us and keep a tight perimeter. Tried the typical approach of asking for help getting directions somewhere and just trying anything to talk to us but we didnt leave any opening to be pick pocketed so eventually they gave up and left (hard to express now how I knew they were pickpockets but it was a touristy area and their behavior was really unusual and very "sus"). I think just keeping it in your mind whenever you're out with your camera that someone could try to steal it is a good first step. I made a friend when I lived in Mexico who had her camera stolen right off her neck while she walked the street. Car came up grabbed her by the camera strap and started dragging her and she barely got free before she was seriously injured or killed - and she was a Mexican national who knew the risks - she just didnt have the situational awareness at the time to think about it. Keeping your head up and making eye contact with people is good to let people know you're alert and not an easy target. The easy target is the one you can snatch their stuff and be 3 meters away before they even registered what happened. What they want to avoid at all costs is grappling with someone who has hold of them and is yelling for help

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

@@karikaru great tips and thanks!

[@spiscione]

great advice. i was just thinking to myself that i was glad i had an M4 with no from visible logos and only writing at the top. but it is chrome, so i may add some black to break up the color. I have a leather half case so that helps partially in this too. Cross straps can be helpful as well vs neck. a tad harder to “yank and run.”

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Steve, others have commented no problems with silver if you follow the other tips and watch your surroundings.

[@spiscione]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom they are all great tips. world’s getting crazier by the minute lately!

[@tutzu4]

Always have the camera on a strap so that it isn't easily snatched out of your hand. I always use a strap because being older I tend to drop things but it is more secure.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks John, yes 100% I use secure wrist straps.

[@emletterpress7216]

This when I begin to ask if our “second” camera, the one that’s ok to lose, is good enough to shoot with, why do we own the “first”? Konica, Minolta, Olympus, Yashica, fixed lens rangefinders make great travel cameras… excellent “seconds” and a cash clip you can throw down and run away from is always a great idea. I was only marked once in Philadelphia, frightening cat and mouse game until I got to safety. I still sweat thinking how hard I had to work to get away from a guy who by the third block had acknowledged to me he was after me.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes great point on the "2nd camera", many hard mentioning Fuji here, I'd use my Leica CL (more for the size) or Lumix M43 if really bad.

[@Biosynchro]

I don't think this will happen to me. If I ever go travelling again I will take my favourite pocket camera, the Lumix TZ series (70/80/90). 30x zoom, RAW, manual controls. And they're cheap secondhand. I prefer super telephotos so a 28 and a 50 are not enough for me. The M is a system great for parties, landscapes and weddings. I do not see it as a traveller's camera. There is also the TZ110 with a narrower zoom range but a 1" sensor. FWIW!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Karim!

[@hlash99]

Matt so sorry to hear this…if you feel comfortable can you share details of what happened. I go to Lisbon often, what part of town was this, how many people approached you?

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, the Martim Moniz area felt the most dodgy but the gang members that approached me were a group working a popular tourist spot, the top of Funicular da Bica.

[@hlash99]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom hmm....very touristy indeed. glad you're ok

[@xavierfumat7567]

Thank you!

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks, no problem!

[@davesaunders59]

I have a scruffy "man bag" with a £10 foam insert from Ebay. I usually wear dark clothing, the sort that if someone wanted to find you in a crowd they'd find it almost impossible. I carry just a Q2 and some batteries. I zone focus to avoid bringing the camera to my eye unnecessarily and I walk quite slow. If I ever sense someone is waling behind me for more than a very short distance I stop and turn around like someone or something has caught my attention. I love my Q2 but I still miss my GRii. With the Q I'm slightly cautious whereas with the GRii I was fearless. I'd also suggest avoiding routine like leaving your apartment at the same time every day. Street robbers love routine.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Dave, great tips and especially the timing. Thanks

[@tdliskey4688]

I use a large linen scarf to drape over my camera and use an old rucksack

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

The perfect combination if the weather is cool enough. (I'm usually too warm!)

[@jamesashmore503]

I dress in black and have my M6 around my neck, but hidden in a voluminous coat until the shot and then it disappears again. I carry one body and one lens, normally the 35mm or 50 mm Summicrons.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks James, great tip. I tried to have a GoPro on a cheset strap under my coat and that was getting attention so I gave up and took it off

[@Animaduniversum]

There is very few places left where you can travel with a premium camera. Just leave it at home and travel with a cheap old plastic camera.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks MV, I have my cheap SLR for next time.

[@Animaduniversum]

@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom It can be really enjoyable. I shot Morocco on film an Sicily Oban Olympus E420 - I love the images!

[@emmanueltsI5]

Tip No.3: more specifically we can list 2 models: monochrome versions or Leica M-A black. Very simple and total black. MP film camera having black paint, they do shine. Even though silver cameras look like old and sometimes people are not interested

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Yes good attention to detail! I still prefer size even if less suited to street. They always look clean and you can’t see marks.

[@redguy2076]

Good advice. I shoot out on the streets a lot, developed and undeveloped worlds included, just not Africa yet. I've always taped up all sorts of branding, Leica or not. There is no need to cover the whole thing, just the logos are fine. I bring 2 cameras at most in a small inconspicuous non-camera shoulder bag with padded inserts. I wear this bag in a silly way where it is sticking out my front side. Recently, I don't even have a camera in my hands, it's always in the bag. I got used to drawing it out quickly as needed. That makes you less threatening as a photographer and also avoids burning cloth shutters, ha. Always have eagle eyes. Look people in the eyes, especially if they are looking your way and acknowledge them.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks! Yes I wear my bag on my front side and yes I think it was me looking the guy in the eyes that saved the cameras. He knew I knew.

[@webersteve1547]

Who has not been robbed in Lisbon or Portugal? We got our car window cracked and some few things stolen. It can happen anywhere. My biggest concern would be my Phone stolen, as it contains electronic train tickets and a lot of Personal stuff on it. This is why I consider to get a Dummy Phone that I can give away instead of the real one

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Steve and nice idea about dummy phone.

[@TheLDunn1]

You mentioned that where you were staying and going to took you through a rough area every day. Maybe, you were seen doing the same route at the same time on multiple days before you got targeted. So the other lesson might be to vary your routes and times if you need to travel to and from the same areas on multiple days. In 2000 I did a big, round the world in 86 days back packing trip with some expensive Canon lenses. I covered every brand name with black tape. I had people actually ask me during the trip what had happened to my camera because it looked broken and was being held together by tape. No one steals a camera that already looks broken.

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Lawrence, good tips. I was doing the same route but not quite the same times. I did mix it up for the last day or so.

[@royfir8886]

Most important try to don’t look like a tourist (if possible) try to know beforehand which are the areas to avoid. I had two situations in London downtown ( not dodge places) and what realised I was distracted luckily nothing happened. Lisbon is like any other big city in terms of criminality one have to avoid problematic areas and be aware and discreet. It can happen to anyone Cheers

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks and yes agree in can happen in all big cities.

[@MrKILLIANSMITH]

Unfortunately, Matt ... every security measure you have outlined unravels the very reasons for owning the Leica gear that you work your backside off to acquire ... it's a cruel world indeed if you cannot safely enjoy your precious quality gear during the very brief periods that you get some time off to enjoy it ...

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Killian, yes very true sadly

[@phnxbr]

As a diver, I never dive in places where I came first time before really knowing it step by step, I leave all Leica cameras at home in first days in places which are new to me and beating around enough time to feel the space I take cameras and wear it hand-strapped only covered with a jacket and never look tourist-ish. Surely there are places like Rio where never wear anything

[@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom]

Thanks Dimos, love that tip, go without a camera on the first time.