2023 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Race Review | P1 Podcast

[@abbas_hashem]

Hopefully we get ranking/score for constructors not just individual drivers next year.

[@AdamMarr]

And bring back team social media too 🎉

[@abbas_hashem]

@@AdamMarr seconded

[@buckeyeone]

What do you mean by ranking/score for constructors? Thanks.

[@lexilikeszebras727]

@@buckeyeoneI think possibly that during Driver Ratings, Tommy & Matt do a “Constructors Score” where they give a score for each constructor based on strategy, Pit stop time, and overall ratings of a “team” for the weekend.

[@matty9102]

Yes please

[@Alexbman2104]

You can really tell just how much Leclerc loves Ferrari. Man was willing to risk losing out on P2(should any mistakes happen after letting Perez through) just to help the team, and came up with this plan completely unprompted in the middle of the race

[@greenlantern7959]

Risking P2 would have meant backing up George and maybe finishing 5.01 behind Checo… and he specifically told George in cooldown that he wasn’t risking cutting it that close

[@Alexbman2104]

@@greenlantern7959 ehh fair but like We know what happens when Ferrari tries to do fancy strategy calls😅

[@cidiracing7481]

Matt: We will never see a season that dominant agai Verstapping looking at the 2024 calendar: Hold my beer mate.

[@thecook238]

19 wins in a season. Won't ever be replicated unless RB nail the car again next year and Max wins 20+

[@johnnychimpo7539]

Yes it will dope

[@LouSassol69er]

​@@johnnychimpo7539not for a long time. Redbulls development will taper off as the other teams find more substantial gains and they meet the ceiling of their concept development. Plus these are the most stable engines due to the engine freeze, 2026 were going to see more unreliability as they bed in new engine regs. This consistency won't happen for a long time again if ever.

[@Swamp_Lad]

Please lord no, I hope next year Ferrari and McLaren are truly competitive as a Max fan I prefer him to win in a hard fight. Besides Charles Lando and Piastri should win a race one day 😅

[@snowholeoutdoors1769]

As insane as this season was, if they can top even that - it will be absolutely insane. Really hope Ferrari find back to real competitiveness and McLaren being able to keep continuing that upward trend.

[@donkolo2610]

With the RB20

[@sopinhadeletras]

Charles had something to lose, at the beginning of the race, and Max didn't. That's what dictated his attitude.

[@Eric-rf1is]

Max was going for the 1000 laps led, to please his engineer. He had also something to lose. Besides the wins streak and the 19th win.

[@georgemaraslis8558]

@@Eric-rf1isBut those are wikipedia strats he already had both champiosnhips secured.

[@hiufgterde]

Yeah that's not true. Both want to win, but Ferrari can't keep up with the RB in the race. Leclerc knew this, he didn't want to mess up his tires and then risk losing out to Mercedes. That's literally what they said in the press conference.

[@Eric-rf1is]

@@georgemaraslis8558 If YOU think Max doesn't had anything to lose, doesn't mean HE thinks the same..........

[@mico4297]

💫timestamps💫 1:09 5 star review 1:39 Tommy’s most memorable moment (max defending on lap 1) 4:59 question: would Charles be more aggressive if p2 wasn’t in the picture? 7:27 question: do you think you’ll see a dominant season like this again? 11:40 Matt’s most memorable moment (Charles strategy) 14:59 question: did Perez deserve the penalty? 19:29 question about Ferraris strategy 23:17 question about tsunodas race/strategy 26:57 biggest winner 27:49 biggest loser 29:48 predictions Pre-Wednesday predictions Matt- 60 points Tommy- 56 points 30:14 biggest good surprise 30:56 biggest flop 32:20 pole position 32:37 top 3 33:10 crazy predictions 36:03 our crazy predictions 37:57 outro 👋 (Upon the 🇪🇪Paul De Vris🇪🇪 who drives for Trident thing, there is a driver Paul Aron from Estonia that was racing in f3 this season with prema but then clement novalk retired and trident bought Paul up because the f3 season was over)

[@mico4297]

Ik this is 7 hours after the podcast came out but I am a complete different Timezone from Matt and tommy as I am located in Oceana (think New Zealand or Australia) and these men are located in the UK so they put it out when I am asleep and I have to do the timestamps when I’m getting ready for work, so sorry it’s late

[@OG-512]

It only I saw this before finishing the episode😭

[@francesco153]

Abu Dhabi was very similar to las Vegas. Leclerc on mediums was better than red bull but red bull on hards was literally flying

[@daarom3472]

in Vegas it was a real pace issue though, here it was Max managing a bit too much.

[@catchnkill]

do not agree. Max was managing heavily in the yellow tyres because Red Bulls was thinking of one stop. Max could push and would have been further ahead even in the yellows. Red Bulls also wanted to get the 1000 laps leading the race record for Max. Thus they want to extend the first stint as long as possible. If Max pits first, he will lose the lead for a couple of laps.

[@TravelGeeq]

Matt, Tommy: thank you for an excellent and entertaining season. I have loved every moment of content, and I'm looking forward to all of the seasons to come. Cheers mates, may your channel forever grow 🍻

[@johnnychimpo7539]

Go change your tampon

[@Twhyte96]

Imagine going back in time to race 1 in Bahrain and telling tommy that Yuki would lead almost double the laps that Fernando would this year 😂💀💀💀

[@joebeus6886]

According to Palmer and Fittipaldi "Checo-Lando" was racing incident!!

[@tormartinbjerknes8133]

My full season as a new fan. As Leclerc fan it's def been some pain, but I'm so glad that I found F1 and you guys. It's so nice having something to look forward to like this, and before and after every race I always look forward to you guys podcast and videos talking about it. Brightens my year a lot. Thanks for all the work you put in, and I look forward to the next season of F1 where Leclerc will take the championship...

[@rickinielsen1]

Just want to point out that Kmag was driving the new spec car to gather data on why it isn't working, in order to help with next years car development. It was utterly destroying even the hard tires, which is why he had to pit much earlier. Hülkenberg went back to the old spec car(before Las Vegas I think) which they knew much better. That was a huge influence to why Kmag was so far back all of a sudden.

[@the_dented_NPC]

In a hypothetical scenario where Yuki got P7, Williams would be 1 point ahead.. And you know where Williams scored that 1 extra point? LOGAN SEARGANNNNNTTTTTTT🎉😂

[@glidertastic5778]

GOAT

[@007inLondon]

that made me LOL

[@TusharSundarka]

WTF IS A KILOMETER 🦅🦅

[@GriotDNB]

Matt's "pain" act is getting a tad old by now. Will unsubscribe if that drags on and on next season. Do not want to but, come on dude.

[@jameshejny7375]

Even without that point Williams would of won the tie. So even in your fantasy Logan is irrelevant

[@georgeking1581]

Thank you for you your commentary lads, amazing to think this is a "new" channel. You guys are by far and away the best podcast, funny and incisive to the last. Also I swear they didn't pay me to say that, although I'm game to be bribed

[@mcb0b1]

I was so mad at the replays at the start of this race. Why have ten replays of a start where nothing actually happened?

[@RLo95]

I don’t think it’s worth a penalty but I think one of the main problems is how inconsistent the FIA are. They have not given penalties for worse

[@TheDornado]

He was left far more than a car's width and still rammed in to Norris, that is the definition of causing a collision.

[@mari-us6rh]

Perez is an idiot!! He hasn't learn from Brasil !!! To overtake in that turn,means Lando have the chance to overtake him in the next DRS-zone!!! Same as Brasil!!!

[@kobehernandez5815]

yeah you are absolutely right I just want some consistency and possibly look over some of the rules because some of them are very vauge

[@LFC1PG]

@@TheDornado Perez left more than a cars width on the outside

[@TheDornado]

@patrykg1816 Norris was ahead at the braking zone so it is his corner so he is entitled to the racing line, Perez was not. Norris was nice by leaving him room, he didn't even have to do that.

[@powerofdreamx]

Alonso remains my favorite. Lewis' focus and consistency over almost a decade is legendary. However, Max has the virtuoso. Max's delivery is unreal.

[@lmr4403]

20:41 "Abu Dhabi is not known for the safety car" Flashback 2021.

[@8BitZ0mbie]

You’re telling me the car that won every race but 1 isn’t the most dominant car ever? I don’t even see how you can say that. Even at peak merc they still lost races due to car issues

[@jenma76]

IKR? Yeah Max had a great year and he is a skilled driver but that RB19 is absolutely a dominant car. Using Checo as a marker to say that it's not a dominant car is so shortsighted it's laughable.

[@paperplane-db8qf]

@@jenma76if they used Perez as a marker then with this level of performance he’d never be P2 in any other “more dominant” cars. It’s honestly such a ridiculous statement.

[@Cloxxki]

Max: I made sandwiches, want one? Me: Man hungry! Jeez man, epic sandwich, delicious bro! What's the sticky stuff? Max: GOAT's cheese, why?

[@iamWing0w0]

Thanks Matt and Tommy. You’ve offered rhetoric best podcasts throughout this season. Keep it up next year👍🏻

[@o0bananaman0o]

21:10 "not known for safety cars" * *Goatifi 2021 has entered the chat*

[@svengoessens7283]

Dutchie here. We would gladly make Tommy a honorary Dutchie.

[@underSTATEDexcellence]

Hier, hier!!

[@Rianna93]

As a Dutch girlie: same! Tommy is more than welcome to join the club 😊

[@illbeV.]

Not sure he's grumpy enough

[@yerrie1908]

welcome tommy, most important word to learn is godverdomme and everything else will be fine

[@adl6907]

Congratulations Max Verstappen on your FIRST legitimate F1 title.

[@ArkadiaII]

@15:30 did you miss the bit where PER just opens the steering, mid move, to just crash into Lando? Intent, not outcome. I can't believe how much the sport has been ruined by rule changes from people who fundamentally don't understand the sport.

[@shameeraswartz133]

What Max & RB achieved this year, was 100% the best season for a driver ever. He worked for it & proved his dominance. It was beautiful. Charles is a brilliant driver, he just needs to be more aggressive like Max, Nando & Lewis etc. That's why they're champions. They didn't win because they're polite on track. The Checo incident definitely wasn't a penalty. I saw it was a racing incident.

[@catchnkill]

zero DNF DNS and has completed every single lap of 2023 racing calendar. Red Bulls has done a miraculously job to keep Max's car as reliable as a rock.

[@pranavjoshi5660]

Excellent reviews and details by you both. Looking forward to new season opener again with you guys.

[@cococalm]

Guys, thank you for the whole season spent together. It has been fun, in more cases than not, the podcast has been better than the race in review .... So a great job by you guys and my best wishes to the both of you.

[@mycorvettelife]

I almost feel sorry for HAAS for being outscored by the most underwhelming and boring team in F1 history (Alfa Romeo). Gene has to be absolutely fuming and considering selling to Andretti. After the team finishing P5 in 2018 they have been absolutely abysmal in the past 5 seasons.

[@hugoseelen8441]

Food for thought: with sprints (6 x 8), fastest lap (22 x 1) and race wins (22 x 25) you can get a total of 620 points during this season. Max scored 575 (92.7% of total points available), perez scored 285 (46.0%). And people think it's just the car...

[@qlmotorsport]

That's because Checo is not a top tier driver. People are gonna keep saying this until RB get a lando, fernando, leclerc in the other seat.

[@devashishrakshit1]

​@qlmotorsport3026 Lando lmao He's doing what drivers like Gasly, Perez, Bottas had already done in a midfield car lol He doesn't have ANY wins while his teammates have one a race each in the same machinery. Till the time he doesn't get into a top car, sit down.

[@qlmotorsport]

​@@devashishrakshit1 if you can't tell lando is one of the best drivers on the grid, please stfu. you clearly don't understand how the engineering side of the sport differs from the drivers. let's not forget the spanking he put on ricciardo in the same machine, something verstappen didn't even manage. but you'll probably just google results and see ricciardo won a race in the mclaren and lando didn't, and think that's proof.

[@Eric-rf1is]

@@qlmotorsport Nobody would have challenged Max in that RB19. Too difficult to drive for most of them and Max too consistent for all of them. There is also a reason why Lando declined a RB seat, don't you think?

[@qlmotorsport]

​@@Eric-rf1isso some drivers like a pushier car (ham, nando, checo) and some prefer a pointier car (ver, lec, ric). lando's been noted as one of the most versatile drivers. it's just impossible to say, but I do know that all of those top tier drivers would put 2-3 tenths per lap on checo is race pace, which is more or less what ver did.

[@greenlantern7959]

2023: when the reason I loved Alonso (fierce challenger to a dominant Schumi) briefly echoed to the present when he gave Max a go at Monaco quali. Still my favorite, back to hoping he and AM can win even once in 24

[@BuckAugust]

You’ll are great! Thank you for the highs, lows, laughs and insights!

[@Lindycawood]

Not a Red bull fan but you have to say congratulations on a great season. 🧡

[@The_Hooded_Scribe]

I think another great example of "It's Max and not the car" is the fact that the two rookies weren't even in the top 10 of fp1 where Felipe Drugovich was P2 in an Aston Martin.

[@Vaidulis]

Same tyre?

[@The_Hooded_Scribe]

@@Vaidulis I believe so. But I honestly can't remember 🤣🤣. Either way though everyone acts like the Red Bull is the most dominant car to ever be in F1 and I think that the rookies not being in the top 10 regardless of whether they were on softs or mediums shows it's not as simple as the car is crazy fast, and more that max knows how to get the most out if that car.

[@Vaidulis]

@@The_Hooded_Scribe stats show everyone is right.

[@The_Hooded_Scribe]

@@Vaidulis they literally don't though 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Which is exactly what I am highlighting in my comment. If the car was that fast and dominant why was checco not second in every race? And why weren't the rookies in the top 10 of fp 1?

[@Vaidulis]

@@The_Hooded_Scribe Checo is washed and RB is one pilot team. Sad but true.

[@timothyward6644]

Woo hoo 🎉 final episode of the year. Love you guys!

[@TheDornado]

You have actually LOST your marbles. This RB was BY FAR the most dominant car in history. The only reason Max has so many wins and records this season was cause of Checo dropping the ball hard. What are you two smoking?

[@Dragon90210]

Im just wishing that next year we get Mercedes, mclaren, ferrari, red bull and aston all going for the championship. Would be such an amazing season if that happens

[@sudazima]

i tracked down that paul aaron finished exactly 22nd in the abu dhabi race in F2 so they just copied it over but forgot to properly edit it.

[@starbase218]

Thanks so much for all your podcasts!

[@YanniEhm]

Everyone at Ferrari was trying not to lose 2nd place in the Constructors instead of trying to win it, everyone except Leclerc. And Leclerc almost did alone if it wasn't for the Perez penalty. I think the practice accident, coming after the Vegas accident, affected Carlos. But what he and Ferrari had to do was drive the race, and they probably would have beaten Mercedes.

[@joshn1678]

Checo literally said he was out of control going into the corner, how in the world does that not mean he deserves a penalty? He admitted to making a mistake lol, Lando even said he was letting him by and gave him more than enough room to pass and he still ran into Lando. Checo is CONSTANTLY running into drivers and blaming them. He's turned into the new George "he turned into me." Checo was absolutely terrible this season, which goes to show how shockingly good the RedBull was this season considering he still got p2. He deserved like p6.

[@judsonjman26]

The scenario play out of the crazy prediction deciding the championship was like Matt being Verstappen in the 2021 Baku GP followed immediately by Tommy being Hamilton plowing through on brake magic.

[@tomheath9919]

Can you please please please do a compilation video of all Matt's reactions to Ferrari's "Short comings" over the last season. We need entertainment between now and pre season testing. 🙏

[@nevadatorres2865]

9:16 matt doing his best impression of toto wolff at vegas

[@GrumpyOldJim]

Franz Tost also retired! :P

[@edsancar2]

What surprises me the most that he was handed also a 2 points penalty together with the 5 second penalty, the 5 seconds are debatable, but the 2 penalty points don't make sense at all.

[@underSTATEDexcellence]

Max Verstappen’s growth and maturity in the last 4 seasons has been remarkable. He was being labeled a liability prior to the 21 season and written off by many F1 pundits and former drivers to now driving a simply lovely season with no serious mistakes that jeopardized his drive. He could have won every race if not for outside factors.

[@Elvewizzy.]

Wouldnt say he was written off. He was literally top pick behind Lewis since 2017. He was a bit too aggressive to compensate for the lack of pace in the RB at the time. 2021 saw him in a slightly inferior car across the season and with a lead in points he went for more do or die moves. Now he doesnt really have to race, but when he does he's still that old Max.

[@martimxavier9690]

​@Elvewizzy. To be fair, those do or die moves where in one of the closest seasons we have ever seen, when he was side by side with Lewis. On his own, he was virtually flawless that season, and made no bad mistakes or had bad weekends when compared to Lewis

[@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten]

To me Verstappen has been almost the same driver from 2019 onward. The only real difference is that he doesn't need to battle wheel to wheel as much now.

[@underSTATEDexcellence]

@@Elvewizzy. I guess you didn’t pay attention to the negativity. More then one personality put salt on his name prior to the 2020 season.

[@Appletank8]

He's still a bit overly aggressive when trying to gain positions, as seen in Las Vegas, practically pushing Leclerc off the road to get 1st. He could probably wait a corner or two to pass later, but Max will always push the letter of the law for every advantage, it's not like they're going to penalize him all that much, and people are more likely to back off than risk a race ending collision. Would be funny if Leclerc did try to hold his ground and crashed both of them out.

[@jondavies]

Charles was thinking about p2 in championship, didnt want to push Max wide and get 5 second penatly or worse becasue then the championship would of been over so Charles was thinking of the end result, If P2 wasgaranteed then I think Charles would of gone abit more riskier. Max knows a 5 second penatly isnt a issue for him or redbull as proved last race so Max knows he can go for it if it was other way around

[@Baz-er6it]

Absolutely - nothing to lose for Max and everything to lose for Ferrari

[@DonStevo82]

I really like those Race Replays in F1 Manager 23 😀 I was able to get Yuki on P2 (M, H, H) and Daniel on P8 (S, H, M) on Standard difficulty, both on a 2 stop strategy. Franz Tost wasn't happy on his last day 😞

[@bertbouwhuis]

I absolutely have to applaud both of you for your perspective on the performance of Max this year, thank you so much for that. Hope a lot of Max haters will learn fromit. On another note: Gonna miss these pré and post race podcasts but looking forward to next year with you both :-) ! Have amazing live shows in december and happy holidays!

[@aberamagold7509]

Tommy wakes up every morning to the Dutch national playing on his alarm clock 😂

[@RobertLewis85]

Awesome podcast guys, hopefully 2024 will be more competitive for the driver's title

[@abdukhang]

Well Done P1, Enjoyed F1 with You Guys ..

[@reteipdevries]

Charles didn't really want to pass Max. He said things to that effect afterwards.

[@martinsfridenbergs1052]

Crazy theory - Ferrari actualy didn't want P2, that's why they didn't communicate the strategy Leclerc came up with (I actually noticed that it was possibility couple laps before Leclerc said that on radio and was wondering how long would it take for Ferrari to figure it out or if at all, was really excited when Leclerc came up with it), and that is also why they left Sainz out on hards they were gathering data to figure out why they are so slow on them for next season. Just a theory from a Ferrari fan whos overdosed on copium xD

[@marcuslobo5765]

Matt n Tommy were valedictorians at the Massey Culinary institute. Excellent cooking guys cant wait for next year with Hopefully revised graphics to keep track of the ccoking. Coz we need to track Matts flop prediction powers, no. of safe predictions used to catch up, no. of times screwderia screwed etc.

[@benjameshodges]

That was a race that could've been an email.

[@ashleymoore9063]

It was not a 5-second penalty it was Toto Wolf speaking to his hotline at the FIA

[@Richardtv1968]

Thanks guys, for a great season with your videos, even if we were not always off the same opinion. I was really upset with the 5 sec penalty of Perez, it felt like a gift by FIA for Mercedes ……. It was a ridiculous penalty, if you look at all the same altercations this year. Ferrari got screwed over here. Furthermore Lewis ruined Gasly’s race by driving into the Alpine’s rear, and he got nothing at all.

[@florian2442]

I laughed out hard when Tommy anounced his crazy prediction.

[@AilinOGriobhtha]

Congrats on year 1, gents. Genuinely great content all year! Matt if you could not curse Riccardo and Alpine (to be fair Alpine don't need any fuckin help on that score) next year I'd greatly appreciate it, good man, yourself. 👍

[@vincentras1991]

Best F1 podcast together with the Engine Breaking podcast

[@lukefawthrop476]

Speaking as a Mercedes and Lewis Hamilton fan. I give full respect and credit to Max and Red Bull for all the records they set. Do I love it? No. But I have to respect it

[@zulfanbakri7640]

Tommy on the money for his pick of Yuki Tsunoda for surprising driver.

[@Nina.B.]

Hard to believe that I had no idea who you were when your first P1 video somehow showed up on my KZbin feed all those month ago. Since then you have become a fixture around every race weekend. I think I might have watched every single video. The clips with Charles and Carlos and Carlos’ interview were standouts. Hope we get to see more of the drivers next season. Very cool to see how your hard work and dedication have paid off. Well deserved. Greetings from Canada!

[@imanlanka]

Thank you 🙏🏽 Tommy for being the voice of reason 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽❤️❤️❤️

[@aneeshmenon3379]

With Sainz, they should have put on mediums & plan a 10 lap soft stint at the end or taken any vsc/sc to move to hards if it was earlier

[@smidsy1979]

Fred blamed Carlos saying he had no pace, and alsomLeclerc, saying he was not aggressive enough. It sounds like Fred is happy to throw the drivers under the bus to pander to the Tifosi

[@purpledahlia1969]

It was interesting that Vasseur didn't make more again of a comment he made earlier - the Ferrari was so up against the cost cap with the Vegas damage that they couldn't afford to put the best parts on the car. Basically they cobbled it together from older parts - no wonder that Carlos DNFd on the last lap due to power unit issues (although he was ranked 18th as it was the last lap). There was much more to it than Carlos driving like a snail or hard tyre problems.

[@GeoffG-ATX]

Definitely need a graphic for the predictions, it's a must!

[@kevinbijl1397]

Thnx for the content this year. Are we going to get a drivers season review ratings to sum them all up?

[@8tonystark8]

Max having 19 wins in RB19 Checo ruining even other people's result Checo's point gap to Max is bigger than Nyck De Vries' to Checo LogiBear finishing 21st in a 20-driver grid

[@davidc.w.2908]

Ferrari should have put Sainz on an all-or-nothing strategy and let him start on softs and let him go just 8 to 10 laps with it, then pit early on hards and see what happens before putting him on mediums near the end. Then it would at least have felt like they had tried.

[@Biting_Hazard]

I’m going to pretend like I haven’t been checking your channel constantly since yesterday waiting for this video! 😂 perfect way to spend my lunch break, love the content guys!!

[@The_Hooded_Scribe]

Save yourself the stress and hit the bell notofication .🔔😁

[@paramshah6376]

It wasn't Clark, it was Ascari in 52. 71 year old record. Jesus H Christ. Mad Max. Mad Max.❤❤❤

[@idonotremenber]

Charles said in an interview that his fight was with the Mercedes and he knew that Max would have passed him anyway, so he preferred to look after his tires.

[@Luizinhu]

I don't see the difference between Russel's penalty in Vegas and Perez in Abu Dhabi. I think both should've been considered racing incidents

[@dannywelbz3650]

Charl said that he can't fight for the win so it's not worth ruining his car

[@nikospud860]

The reason why I believe that the Perez incident WAS a penalty although I will say this was borderline, there was no way he could make that turn without colliding with Norris. The impact was great and could easily have damaged Lando's car and if that had happened I dont think there would be any debate about it. We keep saying that the impact of the incident should not affect the penalty and I think this is a showing of that being shown to be the case. Granted there are countless oportunities this season where it wasnt shown but we can only look forwards. Essentially I am probably letting my papaya tinted lenses get the better of me here but I do still think that it is worth a penalty. It is definitely borderline but just on the side of penalty worthy

[@Duskraven377]

Been a great season. Hopefully the next one will have less Matt suffering.

[@philliptiestopl1511]

TOMMY A MAX FAN AND HE IS SITTING ON A MERCEDES CHAIR

[@Случайноерусскоеимя]

To me, and its just my take on it, the Perez/Norris thing looked from the outside like Perez tried to do what Max does, closing down the outside to hinder a fight back, but it was done clumsily and almost like a second thought he had half way through the overtake attempt.

[@miguelsantos992]

Carlos wasn’t excellent this weekend but during the 1st stint he was on the radio telling that the hards were not working and he was told to lift and coast for a significant amount of time

[@miguelsantos992]

They were probably targeting 1 stop for him, so he was told to save his tyres. After that they probably changed their minds to a 2 stopper and yeah that ruined what was already a bad weekend

[@PeppigUndBillig]

A very fine first season for you! But still missing the social media team championship...

[@lukenoonan3898]

Hey guys just want to thank you for your coverage. I know you both have favourite drivers, but I never feel you are biased in your coverage of each race. Pleasure to watch after every race :)

[@daarom3472]

"Albon enters the room"

[@susher350]

Only just got used to you saying P 1 PODCAST instead of WFT1

[@nealsidhu2697]

You guys should do a video showing what the standings would be if Red Bull didn't exist

[@joshn1678]

Lewis wins by 2 points ahead of Alonso. Someone already did it on reddit.

[@nickjeffery536]

I only watch for Matt's Ferrari pain... haha! Seriously, though, you guys are a lot of fun...

[@TheWelshBloke319]

Guys… the reliability of past eras makes it very difficult to compare the achievements, in terms of race wins in a single season, of drivers today and the past. don’t over egg the pudding, that car was miles ahead of the rest of the field and Perez had a terrible season. This is a valid point of view (as valid as yours). Max had a very good season personally. F1 had a terrible season. I hope we never see a season like this again! I suspect we will see the same next season, particularly if Perez keeps his seat. did red bull develop their car in the second half of the season? In fairness to Max he spoke a lot of sense this year. Which is to his credit.

[@TheGympert]

This has been the best season in F1 from a driver. Let it sink in....19 wins out of 22 races. I know records are there to be broken but this one will stand for a long long time if not 4 ever.

[@johnnychimpo7539]

Easy when you have a crazy dominant car and a bad teammate

[@soundscape26]

@@johnnychimpo7539 The first one has been done in the past, the second one ended up being more relevant for some of the records. I mean, 19-2 in race wins is a true spanking.

[@johnnychimpo7539]

@@soundscape26 yea I think he missed q3 as many times as he made it. I think the cars were different. This is exactly what they wanted to happen. How does checo win 50% of the first 4 races each season, then his pace disappears? BS

[@Rob2]

What I find even more impressive: scored 575 points out of a possible 620.

[@suckieduckie]

@@johnnychimpo7539 Max was pretty vocal after Baku that he found something in the settings of the car that made it work for him. That also happens to coincide with the final 10 laps where he started to gain on Checo by a couple of tenths a lap.

[@jdbb3gotskills]

Stewards were throwing Mercedes a bone with that Checo penalty.

[@Alan.livingston]

Max reminds me of when schumi was winning. The British racing press hated him and you rarely heard anything positive about the guy as he demolished all comers. He was endlessly accused of cheating and endlessly negatively compared to Senna. Fast forward a decade or two, especially after his accident, and the narrative around him is really shifting to recognising him as the champ he was.

[@gameofender4463]

I’m curious how the Norris/Perez incident is any different from the Max/George incident in Vegas. Either in both cases it’s the car on the inside’s fault or the one on the outside’s fault. As both dived down the inside and made contact when the driver on the outside didn’t expect it (Lando expected it more than George but still). Either it should’ve been a penalty for Max and Checo or Lando and George.

[@albr4]

only difference is that max was on the apex whereas perez was heading towards the outside curb.

[@gameofender4463]

@@albr4But Max wasn’t making that turn at that angle. At least not without being very close to the outside wall on the exit.

[@albr4]

@@gameofender4463 Your view is wrong, max hit the apex perfectly and stopped the car perfectly on the apex, george turned in towards the apex as if max wasn't there already ahead on the apex and simply crashed into the side of max, obviously George was 100% at fault for that incident and there is not a single argument to be made for him not getting a penalty for the collision. On the other hand perez was not fully ahead entering this corner, and then did not go over the apex curb, however there was still space on the outside of the corner for lando to go around perez, and even after making contact neither car had real damage and lando actually gained time by cutting the corner therefore perez did not gain any advantage from "pushing norris off track" so the penalty makes no sense. I'm sure in this example the stewards simply looked at who was ahead going into the corner (norris) and decided that it was norris who had control over where perez needed to go and so had full right to squeeze perez towards the apex. If norris smashed into the side of perez's sidepod I'm sure they would've given the penalty to norris or said it was a racing incident as it would've shown clearly that perez was ahead. In my opinion they were side by side (neither ahead of eachother) and banged wheels together with space for both cars to get through the corner without contact so it is a racing incident and this is what all of the commentators agreed upon before the stewards announced the penalty.

[@fe247]

but hitting the apex is not necessary, u have to make the corner, which perez did, and there was still room for norris on the outside, which he ofcourse ran away of and jut cut the chicane, perez was still under control and inside the track....but whatever, we know the FIA as the kings of consistency, so we believe whatever they say

[@FullTimeGaming360]

@@albr4 I can see your point with the Max / George incident but it doesn't take away that at the angle Max took with the very late braking he was already going to go from inside apex to outside line and not follow the inside line he started. Anyone can overtake by dive bombing down the inside but in the George case if he didn't turn in he was going into the wall due to not turning enough or going into the run off due to him not reacting or making a decision so that is why he got the penalty, I don't think he would have if he had raced Max into the corner but it really did look like George was oblivious. Interesting enough the Saudi corner and the Vegas corner share the same trait of the thinning lane for both incidents where the outside line and inside line meeting on the straight due to track width reduction so it may be something worth looking at in regards to the line where it is decided that you are ahead/behind if we want to use this rule as in both cases neither Max or Checo were significantly ahead, you could argue small differences in both cases. I would go with racing incidents for both for the interest of racing as otherwise every overtake will just be bland DRS moves but drivers who make a habit of it like Max, George, Lewis, Ocon and Magnussen causing stupid crashes then driving standards should be the issue as we don't need Max / Lewis returning to 2021 method of come near me and I will put you in the wall as they did that to the entire grid and it is boring watching everyone cower away from the Mercedes (2014 to 2021) or Redbull (2020 to now) because they might just t-bone you since they are so quick they can still win with a broken wing and 3 wheels.

[@philh9421]

I suspect that the FIA took the approach that Checo came in too hot which is why his line though the first part of the chicane was unusual. If he’d had less speed he’d have taken the corner properly but not been ahead at the apex (which was debatable anyway). Personally I felt it could have been left as a racing incident in that the move didn’t come off, the collision was just a light bumping of front wheels, no damage to either car and Lando stayed ahead.

[@diegoemanuel8641]

It was a racing incident in my opinion, None of the drivers suffered damage and Lando stayed in front of Checo, so it isn't even like Checo got an unfair advantage

[@fe247]

agree, also norris had plenty space to try and fight on the outside, but we all know is muuuuch easier to just cut the chicane

[@Tortuguita117]

$$$

[@sheldoniusRex]

Unironically well done to Max for ruining everyone's chance at happiness this year. The season we just watched was one of the most amazing displays of complete dominance in sport to ever play out. Hopefully next year someone, or even two or three drivers/teams have the measure of Max Verstappen.

[@robh9577]

Ruining everyone's chances at being happy is pretty strongly worded lol. I feel like your team let you down, and that's their fault for not building a better car..

[@sheldoniusRex]

@@robh9577 I was directly quoting Matt from this very video.

[@Santivalencia1]

1988: Prost and Senna Imagine if only one of them would have been at McLaren, and with a weaker teammate. He (Prost or Senna) would also have dominated the season like Max this year

[@adampetten5349]

Yeah Prost and Patrese.

[@paperplane-db8qf]

Especially Senna, more than Max. Untouchable in qualifying and the race. Max was pretty weak in qualifying just scraping by and lost multiple poles due to driver error.

[@suckieduckie]

@@paperplane-db8qf Curious what poles you think he lost due to driver error. If anything the RB looked weaker in qualifying than they did in the race and Max squeezed out some pole positions when the RB had no business being on the front row. Monaco and Spa come to mind.

[@paperplane-db8qf]

@@suckieduckie Miami, Hungary, COTA are clearly lost poles. “No business being on the front row”😂. Dominant car that finishes 30s ahead has no business being on pole. 😂 Driver error in Singapore got him knocked out in Q2. Max did a better job in Monaco than Alonso but not as good as Leclerc or Ocon who had perfect laps in worse cars. Put Leclerc in that Redbull and they get 22 poles probably.

[@suckieduckie]

@@paperplane-db8qf Good racecar =/= good qualifying car. Ask the Haas boys. Miami had something to do with... What was it again... A Ferrari smashing into a wall, but granted Max fluffed up his banker lap. It also disproves your point about Leclerc because Max made the same mistake in the same corner but kept it on track. Leclerc will always crash 1 or 2 qualifying sessions over a season. Everyone could see that the RB was struggling in Singapore. He could have done better, but that car was never going to get pole. CotA track limit was a mistake. Getting beat by 0.003 seconds by a 7 time WDC is hardly throwing away pole.

[@TheDutchStarWarsGuy]

Thank you for your guys' content this year. You guys are my go to F1 KZbinrs and I look forward to following you in 2024!

[@sdelan4092]

Great episode! But what about the TV director missing several moments in the race? Anyone else notice?

[@s-pracing8514]

Tommy’s most memorable moment “yea it’s amazing how my driver just shits on yours” Matt trying not to be affected 🗿🗿🗿

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

Charles hasn't always been so cautious. Remember Silverstone (after _that_ Austrian race) where they went wheel-to-wheel and he pushed Max off the track, essentially in retaliation (and went on to beat Max). Which, I hasten to add, wasn't complained about. They even said they had fun! So when he's got a car which is capable of genuinely fighting with, Charles is more than able to put up a huge fight. When you think that Max beat Ascari's win percentage of 75% (which was set in the 1950s - IIRC the third ever F1 season, and has stood ever since - winning 6/8 races), by winning ~86% of the 22 races run (I think they included the Imola "race which wasn't" in the record book, so that would be ~83%), _and_ on only 3 PUs for the _entire season,_ *including the sprints, practice and quali* (when Ascari would have had as many engines and other bits and pieces as required), it has got to be seen as the greatest season of all time. Btw, Lando said that he was trying to let Perez pass because he knew he couldn't keep up with him, only Checo took his sweet time getting alongside him and then turned into him. Poor kid was quite bewildered!

[@anaf9001]

33:23 i'm crying this was so funny

[@arposkraft3616]

Imagine tommys crazy prediction being sainz no point/sainz retiring ending on even keel