Matts Garage - #**$ Bangernomics - Goodbye Mondeo

Can you drive a cheap old car reliably everyday and rely on it, and rack up big miles? Now its all fixed can I keep living the Bangernomics dream?
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[@teatimetel174]

130000 miles is nothing.its all in people heads as 100k 30 years ago was rare as cars rotted before they made that mileage so anything over 100k people have a fit.

[@taxidude]

Computers creating tighter engine tolerances have raised mechanical quality and lifespan of engines. You're quite right. Until the 1980s, you wouldn't dream of purchasing a car with more than 60k miles. It would be finished, rattling banging and smoking. We live now in a fashion conscious disposable world.

[@gaffnaldo1]

@@taxidude both absolutely right. My lexus is at 115k but it consumes every mile like its on its 1st one. Its tight and runs like butter

[@fincawthera3265]

EPIC CAR! I was a student when I bought my Mk3 Ghia 2006 2.0Tdci for £900 with 135,000 miles. I then started a new field marketing job, and in 2 years, I've got it up to 207,000 now. It's been the best purchase I've ever made. I love my Ford. It's got a lot of space, all the gadgets (Plus an amazing sound system with AUX!). Engine has been starting easily. (Despite sounding like a tractor) Tyres have been replaced a bit, couple of new shocks, new sus arm, split pipe now with a silicone upgrade, and a new secondary muffler. Other than that, it's flown through its MOTs... Next week I'm driving it to South Portugal for a couple weeks to live in. (plenty of space in the back for surf gear and a bed!) My friend and I actually lived in the back of it on a two week trip up to the Hebrides from Devon. (Surfboards on the roof ofc). A very comfortable campercar. And I'm 6ft 2in. Cheers for the Mondeo videos. Really appreciate it. I'll be looking back on these if I breakdown in the middle of nowhere! haha

[@furiousdriving]

Good luck, if you've got a good one it should be fine! Probably...

[@stefano9153]

My 2004 2.0 TDCi has 350000 km and still runs fine, probably one of the most reliable car of the last 20 years.

[@metivs]

the enviromental freaks should kiss your hands for riding car with such high mileage.

[@conorturton]

If you worry about what your neighbours think and live the lifestyle you think they assume you should have you'll be working until you're retired, be perpetually paying out every month for a car you can't afford and you'll never have any money in the bank. No idea why you found it tiring on long journeys. I sold my MK3 Mondeo Ghia with 168,000 miles on the clock and regularly did 2000 mile round trips to France, doing 800 miles on the outbound and return journeys just stopping for fuel and Eurotunnel and didn't feel tired when I got out at the other end.

[@furiousdriving]

Luckily my neighbours are great so Im happy to drive anything!This car had a power loss issue that meant keeping it above 60mph was a battle, constant gear shifting, accelerator pinned to the floor boards and watching traffic so far ahead and behind as you cant slow down and speed up again - Mondeos are normally as relaxing as a comfy arm chair, Ive driven them across Europe too which is why I chose this, but I couldnt get to the bottom of this one

[@6lr6ak6]

I have a 2002 V70 2.4T 255.000 miles, great car, very reliable. Diesels l don't like never have,

[@ianwalton5156]

I bought a 2.0 petrol GhiaX new in 2005 & kept it until this year, I always had around 38mpg & it was no slouch. Other than getting the wheels refurbished, one tail light bulb & 2 coil springs replaced it was bullet proof reliable & looked practically new when it was part exchanged for my wife's new car.

[@q3b26]

My partner and I were looking for a high spec, diesel work horse especially as he has an hour commute to his new job. He has a Fiesta and I have a Volvo XC40 but we went for a 1.8TDCi Mondeo Titanium. It's fully loaded minus parking sensors, sunroof and sat nav but everything else is on it. I have no doubt that these engines are capable, I had a 1.8TDCi 2006 Focus Ghia 5 years ago and sold that at 190,000 miles (perfectly reliable until the end), after that I got a 2.0TDCi 2006 Mondeo Ghia X just like the one in this video just a hatchback instead, that only had 70,000 miles on it but had too many electrical faults at 90,000 so scrapped that. Then got a 2.0TDCi 2007 Focus CC3 with 120,000 miles, drove that every single day for 3 years and it looked fantastic, one of the best sound systems I've ever had in a car as well. I only sold it this year with 170,000 miles because I had a new XC40 on order. I regret selling the Focus CC every day, it had DPF issues shortly after I bought it but I sorted those and it took me all over the country and Europe on many occasions.

[@furiousdriving]

A Focus CC? Cant remember the last time I saw one of those!

[@q3b26]

@@furiousdriving there's a surprising number of them where I live but never noticed until I got mine lol

[@martinobrien4164]

Had a 140,000 mile 53 plate 1.8 Mondeo. Amazing car, never went wrong. Very high build quality, easily as good as top marques the same age.

[@furiousdriving]

Find a good one and you're laughing..get a lemon and its like punching yourself in the face every day!

[@jameskyle380]

Bought a 1989 Volvo 240 GLT in late 2009 for £350 and had it for my daily driver and only car for 8 years of 10 years of ownership. Added 72,000miles in that time and pretty fault free. Auto gearbox mounts, prop centre bearing, tail output bearing leaked and gearbox support member bent. Symptom, gearbox banging against tunnel at around 203,000miles. Had it recovered and the biggest repair at £400 for parts and labour. Rad/hoses I fitted myself. rest just general age related or service parts. A good, reliable workhorse. Ran perfect at 234.000 when sold in late 2018 for £500. Have a 1996 940 B230FK auto petrol on 206,000. Again a good car. Paid £250 in 2017.

[@EdgyNumber1]

I love bangernomics but only because I can repair the stuff that can go wrong, quickly. And just like you, as well as the service parts, the first thing I change is every suspension component, brake pads/discs, pedal rubbers and springs just to give it a tighter feel. £400 on a £50 Corsa C and it felt like new.

[@furiousdriving]

Get a good solid car and look after it and it will look after you. Just don't gamble you can fix a mystery problem like I did on this!

[@andyhunt457]

Bought a 2.0 Tdci ghia estate with 130k on.sold it with 240k on.only broke down once with faulty alternator.Great to drive and lug stuff about.48mpg average.Never put supermarket fuel in.Every 3rd or 4th tank was super diesel.never had any dpf etc issues.

[@user-kb9eh7dx8y]

No dpf issues could that be because you drove it .....I mean everyday .... allowing for the dpf to kick in most days would keep everything ticking over nice ...but so many people their journey is less than 20 min lol 😉 GB is watching the results of the new rules for deisal cars ...once fully in other city's and councils will follow London in the name of clean air ..... And that's a funny one too....we have know about the harmful effect of deisal since at least 1979 books written on the subject ....how did the government not know , yes they new ...so they should pay individuals to get rid of deisal cars in my opinion ... Russia has been making electric buses for many years now exporting all over the world... London has only just recently started with electric buses much quieter and cleaner.... But EVs have a massive problem looming... expert's are suggesting that the Grid may fail to charge all these EVs being switched on over certain periods ....and the cost in terms of energy pollution will significantly rise ..... who's the winners really ? It's all a bit of a mess really 😬

[@JohnnyPaton]

I’m surprised you think it’s slow. I had a 2006 140 bhp mk3 Mondeo TDI many years ago as a taxi and it went like stink whilst returning 50mpg.

[@furiousdriving]

Hi Roger, have you seen the rest of the videos on this one? It had an issue we could never get to the bottom of as these should be quick, and at town speeds it was good, but not on fast roads where it just ran out of puff, it did get mid 50s MPG though

[@JohnnyPaton]

furiousdriving I saw the vid where you changed the injectors. I’ll need to catch the others. It’s remarkable that a standard Mondeo diesel was as quick as it was. The Mk4 felt bloated in comparison.

[@JohnnyPaton]

Richard Richard that’s the one I meant. The 130.

[@robertpowell7672]

@Richard Richard A lot of 130's have been remapped to 150. Then you get sub 9 second 0-60

[@cybair9341]

In my own interpretation of bangernomics, I keep the car as many years as it will run without excessive repairs. Then I junk it when rust begins to be visible on the outer body. Up to now, I squeezed 14 years out of my Saturn SW2. I paid $2,700 CDN back then. Short-term bangernomics (like in this video) is not worth it. Long-term bangernomics will make you rich !

[@furiousdriving]

This should have been long term but the car was a lemon for motorway driving

[@DutchBane]

I have spent less than 2000 euros in car purchase and maintenance in the last decade. I had a mark 1 ford ka for 5 years that my sister now uses and i bought a 96 audi a4 1.9tdi and have been using it since 5 and a half years. So i have spent less in ten years than what others spent in 4 months on a new car

[@jamesgoodwin2450]

My life has been bangernomics 😂 😂 😂

[@FinnProp]

I drive 2002 (2003 model) Mondeo MK3 2.0i. It has gone 299000 km. Now it has to go. Thinking about V70, Mondeo MK3 STW or Saab 9-5 as a new cheap car. For MK3 I could strip all the new parts from the current one (saving 500€ on parts).

[@FinnProp]

Now the MK3 started dying. Intake manifold propably lost a flap or two.

[@wetlettuce4768]

I've currently got a Volvo S80 with 256k miles (412k km) and I can highly recommend going with a V70, get the 2.4l non turbo petrol engine if you want reliability the T5 also isn't a bad choice just more to go wrong with it avoid the diesels though.

[@FinnProp]

I bought a V40, not a banger, but has few issues. 2.0T is really nice, but it’s really hungry for gas.

[@SiGoodchild1]

212,000 on my 56 plate Mondeo ST TDCI. Everything works and I still get 50 mpg. I don’t buy your argument that it can’t cope with fast flowing traffic, the legal limit kicks in well before the car runs out of puff and I also don’t think it’s any more tiring to drive than a modern car.

[@furiousdriving]

On one that works as it should your argument is fine. Not on this one which clearly had something wrong and impossible (ie not cost effective) to fix

[@moco2802]

Good cars these mondys. My current one 55 plate 115bhp estate cost £475. It’s my daily work car, I’ve put 4000 miles on it in 3 months and everything works, bar the tired bushes lol. Most I’ve had to do is blank the egr valve. It’s on 152000 now and going strong! The usual faults on these are injectors, think mine are due to be reconditioned soon as there is a diesel knock on tickover when cold, and can be a bit sluggish from time to time, but once this is done I expect to get a good few years out of it. I’ve had tdci’s go over 300,000 miles before......

[@HakanKoseoglu]

H Plate 1990 Volvo 940, 2.3L straight 4. Bought it for £450 at 150k miles, Sold it at 250k miles for £150. Only two issues during those 5y, once the brakes seized up and became red-hot, making me miss a flight to Germany, cold solder on dashboard causing it to cut off randomly (but turn it off and on it'd start again, a bit dangerous at 70mph), and a stone broke the window and another broke the headlight glass in two different times - but those were just bad luck. Had a 52' Mondeo Mk3 TDI 2L, got it for £600 at 60k miles, sold it for £100 at 120k miles when the clutch failed, only one back wheel bearing issue and some minor issues towards the end. Engine was still at 100% when I sold it. It made another 30k according to Gov MOT check site, sadly now no longer on the road. On the other hand, I didn't have luck with smaller cars, Focus, Ka, Micra K12, Volvo 93 all caused more trouble than their worth. Still driving a 54 Sports Ka but that's until it fails next MOT, whenever that might be, not making any big repairs on it any more. For Bangernomics to work you have to have a reliable, good, originally-expensive or simple car. 2000s onwards cars are getting a lot more complicated, a lot more electronic where non-mechanical things go bang and cost an arm and a leg to fix.

[@chinbin2006]

Iv'e had my 2001 Mk3. 2.0 petrol Mondeo estate for 17 years. Its the best vehicle I have ever had. Two exhausts, three batteries, several sets of tyres and a broken front coil spring is all it's needed. Oil and filter change every six months, new wipers every winter, air con service every two years. A top to toe polish every year for protection. It stills drives really well, is quiet and smooth, eats up motorway miles with ease and comfort. Still looks good (no rust anywhere) But it's worth virtually nothing! I am retired and considering buying my last car, what do I go for that will be as good as my faithful Mondie? I have a £30,000 budget, I kind of fancy a big-ish coupe, petrol and auto of course, about a year old and 10 to 12,000 miles under it's belt. I did have a 3.0 litre Opel Monza, pre family and liked that a lot, or do I take the car to my grave? Decisions, decisions!!

[@furiousdriving]

That is a tough choice. I guess for what the Mondeos worth you could hold on to it as a tip run car, but as for what to spend the money on for a coupe I guess personal taste is a big part of that. For ultimate reliability it would have to be a Lexus RC or a Subaru BRZ. Mercedes coupes are generally good, newer Audis are OK, but as you've loved the Mondeo how about a Mustang? Now they are right hand drive and you can have an ecoboost or V8

[@q3b26]

If you take a look at the Subaru BRZ it's worth a look at the Toyota GT86, same car and only £200 difference so it would depend on what sort of price you're able to get one at. The only coupé I like the look of at the moment is the Polestar 1. The Renault Laguna Coupé is my all time favourite but it's old and it's a Renault, says it all for reliability

[@arbeamngcrash3763]

I'm doing 25k a year in a 350£ diesel Citroen I've owned for 3 years got it running 150bhp did Newcastle to Brighton and back on one tank 810 miles. That Mondeo looks like luxury I can't see why anyone would need more comfort/power to be honest

[@furiousdriving]

its a comfy car but it doesn't need more power, it needs SOME power! Something isn't right at high revs so it doesn't like motorways and thats where I do a lot of miles

[@arbeamngcrash3763]

@@furiousdriving yeah something mustn't be right, had a tdci which was 2 years old at the time and was more than adequate

[@chilman6461]

If a citroen is looked after they run for ever and one of the best cars for comfort

[@arbeamngcrash3763]

@@chilman6461 sorry just seen your reply. The old 2.0 hdi in these is solid. No dmf/dpf nonsense there's a taxi Picasso same engine on over 900k miles :o

[@chilman6461]

@@arbeamngcrash3763 nice one we have the berlingo 1.6 hdi not as good engine with egr and dpf and if they get clogged up it puts carbon in the engine oil then blows the turbo so just need oil Don every 12000 miles and we have not had a problem we got the car with 10000 and now has 80000 but going to keep the car for as long as we can when the turbo gos I'm doing this kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5_VkKB6l99mock

[@taxidude]

It's hardly run in. I've had mine for 400 k miles and still going strong. And with 13o bhp, the tdci turbo can easily hold its own for speed comfort and power.

[@westcoast747]

Rust kills these cars, if the repair bills don’t kill you enthusiasm. I’ve got the ST TDCI (155bhp) version and they’re great cars until they go wrong.

[@westcoast747]

They’re good value for money, but when they go wrong the Ford Mondeo MK3 diesel isn’t cheap to put right. Injectors, Clutch, DMF, Turbo, EGR to name a few problems.

[@Stars_Falling_93]

That's some good improvement on the audio! Excellent work! Sorry to hear the Ford didn't work out, but when you drive long distances comfort is one of the most important factors.

[@furiousdriving]

ridderkerk93 it is a shame, it’s a lovely car but a couple of hours on the motorway and I was worn out before starting work, and then there’s still the drive home

[@jimdennant8042]

From my experience of Mondeo’s I used to have a mk1 2.0 Si and found was really comfortable on long distance drives, especially to its rivals.

[@TheFakeRussian]

Great vid this time around and the audio was slightly off but a HUGE improvement on previous attempts. Now .... My old bus was just £700 I think we paid and it had about 155k on the clock. Sure on my channel I've done a lot of work on the old girl BUT most of that was POST driving from the UK to the other side of Bulgaria and back. We came within about 20 miles of the Turkish boarder. Running costs are buttons I'll admit and parts are readily available with a lot of them very cheap. When we went to Europe I was regularly driving 400 to 600 miles a DAY getting there and getting back and I had no complaints at all about the comfort but then I have a fat ass so that maybe helped haha. Acceleration, well it's a 2.0 Turbo diesel and sure they're a little bit slugging but, (as proved on my vids), I was doing 140+ at times on the autobahn and it was STUNNING! She never missed a beat. I'm pulling close to the 170k mark now on the clock and I'd say mine is good for at least another 100k. As I've said before, you either get a great example of one of these that needs a little bit of work, (unless you really push it to the limit as I did mine driving across Europe), and can be a fantastic car that with the cruise control on will almost drive itself. We tackled the mountains in Bulgaria, Romania and Austria and she was brilliant. I just can't fault it. It's sad to see your car go, but if you were having issues with the comfort levels then I get it. But mine isn't for sale and will stay with me until I get to the point where the MOT needs me to spend at least £500 on parts just to get her through.

[@furiousdriving]

Yeah, much clearer now, still shame the Rode battery died. This one was lovey around town and great on a B road, so practical and (I think) good looking. It was very, very comfy but seemed to take a lot of effort to keep it buzzing at motorway speed, it just ran out of puff in the low 60s - it was the effort of keeping it at 70 or more that was exhausting. Id already planned on lowering it and picked the wheels I was going to fit, and the Car Play stereo that was going in. Like yours Im sure it will go on for another 100k miles no problem if the new owner keeps changing the oil, but he mostly drives around town so it should be ideal for him

[@TheFakeRussian]

A lot of effort to keep it at 70 and ran out of puff in the low 60's? Woe!! That engine was poorly! Mine is fantastic unless you're like my wife and too lazy to change gear but once it gets to around 1,700 revs the turbo started kicking in and it is reasonably quick. I'll admit zero to 60 is a bit sluggish from standing but there's no issues rejoining the motorway from the services or picking up on an overtake but I think the turbo needs a good clean and the cat. It does sound like your was choked up so I kinda understand why you've moved on.

[@furiousdriving]

Mine was the opposite, 0-60 was good, 0-40 brilliant, its not an RPM issue as low speed/over 2500rpm its quick with got grunt but at high speed and the same RPM gutless. Maybe a fuel delivery issue? Ill never know now, which is annoying but sometimes the expense of finding out isn't worth it, and Ive spent too much getting here already!

[@TheFakeRussian]

I'd have said it was an EGR, cat or turbo problem. That Wynns stuff was reasonably effective with mine though I have a feeling the cat need a good clean with an air line which I'll do when I take the front down pipe off to replace it as the flexi has gone. I'll give the O2 sensor and lamba sensor a clean too, (assuming it has a lamba sensor ... Think they may be only on petrol engines --- Cue 3 hours of looking for something that doesn't exist haha)

[@furiousdriving]

Thats time well spent!!! Id have spent time hunting for the cat/DPF but my mechanic friend pointed out it didn't have one... I thought all the same, but I changed the turbo, tried a new EGR with and without blanking plate and cleaned out the EGR manifold and used several bottles of Wynns and similar. Also thought it might be a split turbo hose but couldnt find anything with it on a 4 post. A mystery. Worth remembering my last company cars were 300bhp Cupras so everything feels slow now...

[@stephmill8547]

Bought a 55 plate TDCI 160K miles. Great service history. £350. Only ever bought a new battery. Absolute bargain !

[@Chriswales]

It's possible to daily an old car but you need to be lucky finding the right car as some can be money pits. The problem is getting one thats been well maintained, I use a 2003 Seat Leon TDI on a 70 mile commute. I trust the car since I've owned it for 13 years and know what's gone wrong and been fixed. You do need to know when it's time to move on, personally I have yearly £1,000 budget for maintenance and servicing. If it becomes unreliable or regularly uses all of that money in a year then it'll be time to say goodbye. Not sure what I'd get to replace it since it'll happily keep up with motorway traffic and returns over 55mpg.

[@huxley309]

Honda accord cdti would be a great choice, I love my civic.

[@graemefisher7014]

Love the omni consumer products t shirt

[@furiousdriving]

Haha, thanks - check out last exit to know where T shirts!

[@graemefisher7014]

@@furiousdriving yeah had a look cool site

[@baloomckay]

Something comfier newer and faster Just described a volvo v70 d5 👍🏻

[@armincekric7621]

I currently drive an 2002 Mondeo Mk3 with 435000 km's on the clock . Still goes , still handles beautifly and I am happy with it .Tried couple of new cars , nah I am not interested . Why would I pay 2-3 times for for a car that doesn't handle as good or better than the Mondeo , especially premium segment car . Or buy a newer car and have less power and equipment , dumb thing to do .

[@ash7990]

Although these old MK3 mondeo diesels can have lots of problems, to me I regard them as a modern car! Certainly should have more go than my 90hp Xantia hdi too

[@re-animatorre-animator9671]

No one will be surprised when you tell them you payed a grand for that mate .

[@furiousdriving]

that wasn't really the point, more 'can a grands worth of car replace a new one on finance'

[@terrificspokesman7416]

Yay I live in Southampton

[@simonjohnhinton1938]

50mpg? I get 38mpg out of my MK4 Mondeo 2.0 petrol which I think is good. I've never bought a brand new motor and never will. I can honestly say it's the most snappy petrol engine I've ever driven and responds well to the slightest touch of throttle. I spent £2000 buying it and it was a one owner car who happened to be a female doctor.

[@timmymallet3809]

Simon John Hinton a 2.0l flat petrol Mondeo best car you av drivein 😂

[@simonjohnhinton1938]

@Richard Richard brim to brim is a good way to find out but mines quite accurate. I've had a mk3 2.0 duratec ghia x which did around 34mpg but this mk4 I have now is smoother, quieter and responds better. To be fair though the mk3's previous owners were a bit neglectful. In terms of comfort my car is way better especially on long journeys, the suspension isn't tired and the steering is tight and there are no rattles. Diesels are fine when new but as they age the list of things to go wrong means that any fuel saving could be offset by high maintenance costs. Update I'm now doing 39mpg 💪👍

[@simonjohnhinton1938]

@Richard Richard I know but were better than the bloody gauges on a Capri that told me I had a quarter of a tank and then I ran out of juice....😆

[@garethifan1034]

@Richard Richard Each to his own..i'd rather the extra 10 mpg a Diesel gives and the extra grunt. I'll never buy a petrol again.

[@garethifan1034]

@Richard Richard Good for you - clearly you like watching your cash disappear down a carburettor..every Diesel i've had performs better than any petrol equivalent - you've just not been driving the right tractor. Now drive a W202 5 cyl Td - and believe me..that puts a massive grin on my face every time I leave the petrolheads at the lights.. I get the grin..and I gets the 40+mpg..unlike you..

[@joedaman8436]

Stick to petrol mate, diesels ain't worth the hassle, I have a 2001 2.0 Ghia X, 114.000 miles, full leather, heated seats, climate control, cruise, 6 CD autochanger, good on fuel and drives like new, didn't pay a lot, 2 previous owners, full history, I love it, got all the toys a new Audi/BMW has.. serviced regularly this car will do over 150.000 miles, easy!

[@furiousdriving]

Sadly I do too many miles for a petrol, Ive had a couple of petrol company cars over the last few years and was putting in over £100 a week in fuel!

[@simonjohnhinton1938]

I had a 2005 mk3 ghia x petrol that did around 34mpg what did you get out of yours? I knew another guy that owned a 2004 zetec model petrol, he struggled to do 30mpg.

[@j_f_kyoushallnotbeforgotte2191]

Boring

[@thpxs0554]

Yep, I work on the things and my own car is a 94 Volvo T5 petrol. It’s juicy but hasn’t gone wrong in 10 years. These diesels are great until they go wrong, which they do and that’s all your fuel savings gone.

[@wazzup7238]

@@furiousdriving think about a LPG instalation. I have 1.8 duratec and it is just brilliant! Greats from Poland.

[@adambentley3171]

Fairly certain that mondeo will do 70mph.

[@furiousdriving]

It should, and with a long enough run up, down hill and a tail wind it will. But it shouldn't need any of that which is why it had to go

[@muttleydog6421]

@@furiousdrivingFrom what you have said im fairly certain your mondeo was fucked to begin with because i myself was an owner of a 2001 ford mondeo tddi giha x 2.0L diesel the 116ish hp version with 225320 miles on it, oppose to the tdci engine which when new put out 138hp, and mine had no problem hitting 70mph let alone 100mph so your argument of its not fast enough holds no ground the car was absolutely brilliant for long distance journeys comfy and easy to drive with plenty of power to spare even up hill.

[@stevenking1833]

Running cheap fuel does these or no other car no good at all....Shell or BP every fill up and you wont have turbo or injector egr valve issues. My old 130bhp was still on original injectors, egr valve and fuel pump at 200k miles. The current 130bhp 2005 mondeo im using has been in the family from 2 years old and 20k miles and is now on 130k, always serviced with genuine parts has never needed anything apart from a bottom pulley.....still does over 50mpg and I'm putting nearly 100 miles a day

[@furiousdriving]

Good tyres and good fuel always improve any car regardless of its worth

[@TheUltimuteGamer]

The new cars are complete piles of shit they are built cheaply and are mostly poor quality the old school cars are so much better I'd rather have a pimped out old school car rather then a brand new car

[@adrianmulvey8919]

Mercedes Benz next banger?

[@furiousdriving]

Someone finally got that, at last! Yeah, kinda, moved on from bangering for a daily, still not a new one on finance though

[@archstanton3468]

Not a comfortable long drive? All you need to do is get those daft wheels off and put 16s on-your bones will be forever thankful...

[@furiousdriving]

The ride is fine, I could even live with the suspension being lower and firmer - its the engine thats been a problem

[@archstanton3468]

You clearly state in the video the mechanics are fine, but complain a lot about the comfort-or perceived lack of when behind the wheel on longer journeys...did you omit something about the engine that will explain this contradiction of commentary?...

[@furiousdriving]

It was a mechanical issue that made it uncomfortable. Because maintaining motorway speed meant pinning the throttle to the floor - and I mean hard to the boards for the whole journey unless letting off to allow faster traffic past, and then pinning it again to try and regain momentum - I was finishing journeys with an aching hip, leg and ankle, not to mention mentally wearing watching traffic so much further ahead and behind to plan for maintaining speed as I had to pull in for everything going over 60 and would lose speed on any incline. The seats were fine and fine pliant and below 50mph it was a joy and responsive but as I often do 1000 miles of mostly motorway driving a week it was just draining to use, my Rover 2000 is more relaxing at 70mph

[@archstanton3468]

I love an old Rover-P5 all the way for me though!...maybe I missed some of this in the video, it does sound like a grating experience for you-I can only counter by relating motorway drives in my 06 TDCI Estate, bought 2 years ago for £1000 is certainly different. No issues with power, and can still pull in 6th on an incline...still, something is always in the post for an owner of the older car-that is our dice!...

[@FourIntoOne]

Please please buy a mic.

[@chilman6461]

He finds it tying driving a old mondeo think u need to get to the jim haha

[@furiousdriving]

I think you might have missed the point of the video :-) Have you seen my 1935 Austin 7 video? This was harder work to drive than that, this car wasn't well

[@chilman6461]

@@furiousdriving hi just seen your next video with the car not working right so I get I now I had a mk1 mondeo 1.8 td and the turbo did not work right it would fill with oil but I never fixt it just ran it But I did not do the miles you are doing I think a lot of people on hear have jumped to the same conclusion so thanks for you reply

[@furiousdriving]

no worries, I think you may well be right as Ive seen a few similar comments

[@user-kb9eh7dx8y]

Interesting video , but how fast do you need to go when people are now using 20mph roads ...70 max speed ...I don't get your comments about how fast ...that car is too fast for most people anyway lol 😂 😂

[@furiousdriving]

Generally Mondeos are quick but this one wasn't too fast, this would run out of puff in the high 50s and creep towards 70 eventually. Thats not too fast, especially as I drive in Europe a lot where 80 is the limit! I wouldn't argue with 20 limits past schools and on housing estates, but the 70 limit is 50 years out of date, with the capability of modern cars (as in anything young than 30 years!) there's no reason we couldn't have an 80 or 85 limit on the motorway

[@user-kb9eh7dx8y]

@@furiousdriving agree the limit is out of date ...ask any traffic cop if we should increase the limit almost all will say absolutely no way ...Humans can not take in all the amount of info the brain needs to compute when driving fast ....only a few people out of thousands can ....this means we must keep speed limits low ...it's not all about you and what you can do ....it's about a broad social spectrum....your lucky if your shown how to drive fast , and regular updates but the rest out there on our roads can not drive at speed ....to many distractions , in and out of the car .....eg who last worked on the car in front steering , suddenly there is a crash nothing to do with you but you can't avoid it because a clown worked on that car ....if speeds are increased in this country many more accidents and death's would happen .... speeding is the killer ....the G force alone breaks necks , back, and more .... Most people don't even know what correct tyre pressure should be in their tyres ....and that's why we can't allow road s to raise speed national limit ....some states are 45mph or 50mph on free way they too know that increasing the speed would lead to far more death and serious injury... If people want to enjoy speed they need to go to a race track ....pay , have all the emergency service ready on hand , be in the right conditions with the right help when needed..... remember the highway , motorway is a much more dangerous place to be on than any race track .... I enjoyed the video , it was a very well done video ...thank you and please make many more . GT .

[@alferret1969]

I've just watched the 5'ish episodes with the Mondy, I would sub but the audio is absolutely crap. You must be losing or not getting 100's of subs a week due to piss poor audio. Sort that out & I may come back.

[@deanwalker3710]

You need to man up. Too tiring??

[@furiousdriving]

Until you've driven a really bad example of a car you won't understand. This was physically exhausting to do a long drive in - worse than any classic Ive owned or driven. Even harder work than the 1 litre rental Punto I had to drive from Kent to Hull and back, in a day, in torrential rain (and do a job in Hull). Just keeping the Mondeo above 60 feels like driving in an endurance race. Find something running on 3 cylinders and drive it non stop for 4 hours then come back

[@deanwalker3710]

There’s obviously something wrong with it then. I’ve owned a 700quid Subaru Legacy for the last 3 years and I’ve put 100k on it in that time. It’s now nearly 300k. No problems at all just servicing costs which I do myself .

[@furiousdriving]

Theres something very wrong and I ran out of patience and the willingness to throw any more money at it! Get a good car, look after it and it'll go on forever

[@pmkeith]

The Sat Nav doesn’t work - So what? You can buy a brand new car - such as an Astra - with Android Auto but find that the bloody “intelligent Link” doesn’t work with your phone. So just like a 15 year old banger, you have to run Android Auto stand-alone on your phone connected to the audio aux socket. And the same goes for the webcam - because no fucking new car has one installed as standard or as an option. And at least the 15 year old banger has a spare wheel so that you don’t have to call out a rescue company when you get the inevitable puncture - as you do with most modern cars. And if the 15 year old banger does break down it is probably 100 times more likely it will be fixed at the roadside - most new cars are so complex that when the do fail it is frequently in the electronic systems - which means the car has to be carried away to a garage. And don’t even get me started on breakdowns of hybrids or electric cars - these pretty much always mandate “carry away” in the event of breakdown. And what is the point in spending hard earned cash on massive depreciation costs just to bugger up your suspension in the plethora of potholes that British roads have now become. Nobody wants a diesel - hardly surprising since the eco-warriors and leftist politicians have pretty much declared they want these cars removed from existence. During the Second World War Germany ran submarines across all the seas of the world using a hybrid combination of Diesel engines and electric batteries. Yet no car manufacturer has married up a modern, reliable and efficient diesel up with a hybrid electric system. Car “economics” is just marketing bullshit - as are all the arguments about carbon dioxide emissions. Sorry just have to get that off my chest - my diesel car will soon be needing it’s MOT test - which operates more to take reliable cars off the road than it is about safety nowadays. It will probably fail because it doesn’t have enough “eco warrior” energy sapping crap systems on it. We will probably all end up being forced to drive electric “mobility scooter” cars - and have to suffer the consequent brownouts of our national grid system. Perhaps we should go back to horse and carts - that would make the ecologists happy - but then we would have to suffer the animal rights activists.

[@furiousdriving]

haha, excellent rant! My 10 year old TomTom is still fantastic and doesnt use any mobile data when Im abroad. I was just shocked how much anyone could charge for a used nav DVD for a 15 year old car! I think Merc did a diesel electric E Class a couple of years ago, not sure though. The MOT is getting harder for good inexpensive cars to get through, its getting ridiculous reversing lights a fail? Seriously!

[@andyhunt457]

You have to regen any dpf once a wk if your doing short journeys only.CO2 levels are now increasing due to decrease in diesel usage.ooops more global warming then 👏

[@furiousdriving]

I was doing about 1000 miles a week in it so that wasn't an issue, and yes cutting diesel use is a mistake

[@FatHead1979]

None of the MK3 Mondeo diesel engines ever had a DPF fitted so they're able to cope with lots of shorter journeys a lot better than modern diesels, which need a bit more care due to the DPFs that are now fitted.