Mauga Is A Paladins Champion.

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0:00 Intro
0:21 Ability Comparison
6:43 Mauga Clip Montage
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#paladins #overwatch

[@LaserAgentRyan]

3:58 guess you could say he’s a emauganation

[@thamontine]

I KID YOU NOT I SAID THIS AND CUT IT OUT THINKING "man this joke isnt even that good no one would think its funny". DAMMIT

[@darius6998]

@@thamontinetheres no way bro 💀

[@renzxcoreey1885]

i still remember when Kiriko cames out and most Paladins fans just said " they are friends" with Io her pet BUT a lot of OW people when Nyx came out just said its a cheap copy of Rammatra

[@thamontine]

Duality of fans... No but seriously I just want people to enjoy things instead of being territorial over their game

[@JustAimIt]

Those were actually the CM on Twitter, fans still argue who invented what first to this very day

[@rustyshackleford6648]

Love both games was actually on paladins first. But have to admit Nyx is walmart Ram

[@immahamsteryogamer]

The OW community doesn't understand that the Paladins devs start working on each champion 6 months before release and they still often have annoying bugs that have a huge impact on the gameplay.

[@willg1088]

Tbh mauga is way more fun and smoother than raum

[@alosvods615]

“It’s like having divorced parents” never thought of it that way. But true.

[@bonic7217]

You used to be able to hold both m1 and m2 on moji for high dps but now you have to wait a little before left clicking when marking someone to get the most dmg

[@thamontine]

i do remember that... is it more dps to wait for a full mark or to just explode the mark asap?

[@bonic7217]

@@thamontine Moji fires every 0,7 sec while applying one mark every 0,08 sec If you were to hold down both m1 and m2 you would hit enemies at around 8-9 marks wich can deal from 509-652 dmg But if you were to wait around 0,1 sec for the tenth mark to apply than your shot would deal 1000 dmg So for just around 0,1 sec of waiting you can get an around 350 or even a 500 dmg increase. Obviously Moji isn't as straight forward as many think as there are situations where you would want to detonate the mark early like finishing an enemy below 650 hp or trying to destroy a barrier or deployable

[@thamontine]

@bonic7217 hey this was really helpful! Thank you!!

[@peegeeop4513]

Yea she was bursting way too fast and too hard for it to be balanced so they slightly changed it

[@desiredream9861]

actually something interesting about that cage fight ultimate; in paladins' closed beta buck used to have an ultimate called "imprisonment" that created a giant ring of rock around wherever he casted it, trapping enemies, and giving him 50% damage reduction while inside the ring. if you go on the fan wiki and look up bucks removed content you can find a linked youtube video showcasing it! anyway, really nice video!

[@thamontine]

OH WOW that I did not know that!!! Thanks for the kind comment!

[@thamontine]

@@mikesimmerman4457 ....what is this comment. what am i reading?

[@diteamiciedentrate]

not to mention that characters in games who use a hook in a way similar to Roadhog and Makoa existed way before Roadhog and Makoa... I really, really never understood all the outrage around similar games

[@thamontine]

HONESTLY!! Like lets just chill and enjoy what we like...

[@immahamsteryogamer]

Arena of Valor has multiple heroes with a hook ability. But all are short range except for Grahk, who looks like a demon version of Roadhog. Also, all of them have a "Get over here!" voice line.

[@jester3272]

omg this is exactly how i feel as someone who loves both games youre so underrated

[@jester3272]

really good video quality too dude youre gonna make it big ik it

[@thamontine]

@@jester3272 ty ty ❤️

[@AFrozenKitten]

A dome that locks people pretty much was a Paladins ability early on the games life. Buck's ultimate trapped people in a small ring made of earthen walls, which was basically the same thing. They changed that years ago though

[@user-om2ui9ig4z]

ok i feel like its important to say : there are limited amount of mechanics that you can do in FPS game, though those things have similarities, and i 100% garantee any respectable gd will be playing competitor's game and take notes. None of this mechanics have anything extremely special about them to be a "clone".

[@dvaismylove9198]

Like with Roadhog and Makoa. when looking at D.Va and Ruckus, they are offensive mech based heros/champions, but play completely different, even when there abilities look very identical. Rockets, booster, dual weapons with low range.

[@Zerty-LGCY]

I just want him back already bro 😭

[@thamontine]

Dude saaaaaaame

[@bayunbayunzalez6657]

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought he’s just like Raum

[@hou5eheadjason]

im a paladins player at heart but been playing ow more this year , I think it would be awesome to have a paladins vs OW kinda like a marvel vs capcom or capcom vs SNK , bring all the characters into one universe , itd be so broken but so fun , having grover and ana on one team or buck and genji

[@thamontine]

Actually based

[@MaxwellMatthews]

The CC would go insane 😂

[@garythemilkman4442]

Would be cool, i would love to see khan in overwatch yeet players off the map although i imagine his heal battlecry will be op I just realized how op the champions are even without their loadouts

[@theeater3573]

mauga is based on the character from retribution event in overwatch 1, the heavy assault unit, apparently mauga was ready and he wass supposed to come out instead of sigma... that was on like 2017-2018

[@apollo1100]

I mean, not really? They made a kit that was originally supposed to be mauga's, but they realized it didn't fit him, so they made sigma and gave it to him instead

[@no.notfromRDR]

honestly thi sounds the same as how league players say hanzo's ult from mobile legends is a copy of karma's skill that didn't even reached the beta test.

[@lilwintery6434]

@@no.notfromRDR I would say it's different because in the archives event from 2018 there were heavy assault units with dual machine guns and a charge ability that you fight. There was also an exploit that let you play as it in pvp.

[@rod99ttett90]

This made remember the time that overwatch came out so many people said paladins copied overwatch despite paladins being released first. Old times

[@itsjemmacakes]

Overwatch was released before actually But Paladins was likely being worked on longer They didn't copy each other but are similar games in some ways nevertheless

[@db5094]

paladins had player access to gameplay earlier, the closed beta released a year before in 2015, two months before overwatches closed beta. Either way, they both would have been in development for a while. @@itsjemmacakes

[@notanagger4861]

both games take inspiration from each other, thats just how it works in gamedev. neither fully copied the other, both just take ideas since they seem fun so who really cares

[@immahamsteryogamer]

Paladins started development first, it took longer because Hi-rez didn't invest much into it.

[@immahamsteryogamer]

​@@notanagger4861idk about that, but they were both inspired by TF2. Overwatch took the Hero switching mechanic while Paladins took a loadout system. You even had to collect the cards like you had to collect weapons in TF2, but it was too P2W.

[@cabbagebutterfly800]

another thing is that two games have different play style, Paladins prefers a more planned ahead style, building different decks for different effects on different champions, in game you get different items to buy to have different effects (although most casual players don't even know and just leave it on auto buy). OW doesn't have any customization on your character other than skins, but it change that by the fact that most of these characters were designed when the switching heroes were the main focus, so if you get hard countered, you don't have to stick to it. So even if one game tries to copy one another, it may not work on the grand scheme of that game.

[@TheVocaloid00Gundam]

man i havnt played paladins since 2019. what a throwback i need to get back in there…

[@juanmanuelrodriguezarango4415]

Actually I'm pretty sure that Makoa bases his abilities on a Assault´s variant from Global Agenda, like many other Paladins characters, I also heard that Roadhog is very similar to Veteran from SMNC

[@user-om2ui9ig4z]

Roaghoag is pudge from dota 2 - lets be honest about it. Pudge first item to make is always a flusk)

[@JumpsOw]

and then you realize that Mauga is just a bot from the old archives missions yeah that dude is either inspired by heavy from tf2 or just an overwatch original.

[@DistortedMelodies_]

Considering how many years both games had been alive, makes sense champion/heros features will start overlapping to some level, specially now that OW is starting to release heros at more or less the same speed rate as Paladins

[@zilotrance9906]

I love your hook transition, great video.

[@thamontine]

That edit took too long 😆 Thanks!

[@jsj0520]

6:44 holy shit that was hilarious 😂

[@miwky406]

I immediately thought of Raum when I first played as Mauga

[@bandi642]

when i saw him for the first time i said "RAUM IS THAT YOU"

[@ChirsScottGaming]

i always love ur vids

[@thamontine]

And i love reading comments like these ❤

[@DeadShoot48659]

I subbed cause you were at 999 lol couldn't leave you hanging like that

[@thamontine]

Thank you bro 😭

[@dailysavageclipss]

That transition was clean❤

[@kira_15_R3D]

i hope doomfist becomes more like terminus, the block creating more ammo is such a cool feature

[@mrsmoothspaz8631]

The turret done thing from a design standpoint is just a modified Engie sentry from TF2

[@xleplayVA]

As someone who mained maeve, and then Raum when he released, yea i instantly recognized mauga as a paladins character hahaha

[@shisei_EternalAtake]

raum is so much fun to play peak tank/dps gameplay on a good run u feel invincible

[@serviper3908]

After looking at his abilities for like 2 seconds my first thought was "oh its raum" and then I went into my first game dominated and got potg💀

[@kerajous]

Funny, saw on a podcast about the recent blizzcon event that they talked about how mauga felt like the most overwatch "2" character.

[@LumaSloth]

5:53 this didn't even age 💀

[@jamalchilds5527]

Mauga’s character is based off of the Ai enemy “ Talon Heavy Assualt” from the Overwatch 1 Archive event

[@kujikawathemeekmage3640]

yes but its also very clearly inspired by raum

[@WumpaClock]

Critical Damage on players who are on fire. **Team Fortress 2 Pyro wants to know your location**

[@Desam.]

fun fact just like raum mauga is horrible big hp punching bags

[@thamontine]

this fact isnt so fun...

[@immahamsteryogamer]

​@@thamontineit is when your the one using them as an ult battery.

[@LumaSloth]

6:44 Maui jumps scare

[@SliceOCheeze]

I personally thought when i first saw his design in game he looked like a paladins character... and i will never unsee it lmao. His art or something just doesnt look like other overwatch characters idk what it is

[@zreptrapl3958]

Bro the divorced parents joke was so natural I have to watch for 10 more second to realize the joke lmaooooo

[@kujikawathemeekmage3640]

something funny is that the roadhog rework was originally supposed to be a movement ability lmao

[@artemuna]

with that title I thought you'd say he'd fit better into Paladins but I'm glad it's just a comparison of the abilities

[@DrFeho]

That was a good translation

[@CFallescence]

For the dome you have to go to Hi Rez's other game, Smite with Odin ult its almost the exact same.

[@kabirjain4692]

i moved to paladins and i am having time of my life, paladins maps feels so big and character skill customization i can keep playing my favorite character every time

[@Kylo27]

It important to know that IN OFFICIAL Lore, Roadhog’s REAL name is Mako Rutledge. Yes… Mako-a

[@ralseidagoat]

i literally went "oh so raum and moji lol" about 5 seconds after he was revealed lol

[@DYHero_]

When they added Illari I pretty much told my friends they added IO and she is going to be broken. I know IO is not strong rn but her kit looks op in overwatch cause no anti heal. I was right apparently

[@dariuswoznica3498]

I thought of Ruckus first, like with the double Minigun thingy

[@germanluque9756]

Ruckus is not more like dva?

[@dariuswoznica3498]

@@germanluque9756 well, it was the optical impression I had, appart from that, he ain´t havin´ anything in common with Rucks

[@duelitys]

i noticed this right away myself but its pretty obvious that most champs from paladins are remotely similar to the characters in overwatch

[@AerthQuakeWasTaken]

Mauga's ultimate is really similar to an ultimate of a character named Akos Hu from the fighting game-inspired hero battle royale game Naraka Bladepoint.

[@Arisconleche]

Odin from smite

[@pacifistminigun3987]

never noticed the similiarities to Moji and Raum tbh first thing i thought when seeing Mauga was just that his primary fire was like combining Heavy (for the miniguns, duh) with pyro (for the ability to set on fire/crit on fire) also, 2:46 if only raum also was CC immune while running T_T

[@thamontine]

I also want that...

[@Notllamalord]

Huo long heater

[@pacifistminigun3987]

@@Notllamalord the Hou long heater but ignites with bullets

[@shoelace5977]

videos like this have existed since the game got revealed. im going to bed.

[@solsoman102]

this happens every time if you're a support and you're reading this pop your ult when the tank is at half health not when they're about to die

[@GabeWatchesAnime]

You might wanna compare his ult with Seris' or Nyx's Ult since both pulls enemies into an epicenter.

[@sleepysaiken3984]

I appreciate you making this video and offering a more neutral approach. The two games fandoms have been at eachothers throats for years when in actuality they both take heavy insperation off of eachother (and other various forms of video games)

[@isaacargesmith8217]

In turn it could be argued that moji's sort of thing itself kind of does somethign similar to pyro from tf2 if you're running a combo flare loadout. Since flares crit people on fire so you as a pyro want to get close so you can burn people with your short range flame thrower and then pull your flare out to crit OR poke from a distance with it in the hopes you can land it, get them on fire with it, then land another to get a crit. Pyro's airblast is also kind of similar to moji's barriar in that it's a good "get off of me/ let me pass" tool that punishes players for attacking. Airblast is just way harder to use due to being more akind to a parry and only works on projectiles since it reflects them back for extra damage. Nothings truly original, its more about how you mix and match and execute on ideas and how you learn from older ideas. Mauga himself takes very clear ideas from tf2's heavy with how he's basically a chain gunner with a similar game plan of close range damage and smaller poke damage. Raum's similar too infact. Each character has a lot that sets them apart too and again, its about what their whole is not just their inspirations.

[@jatryas]

bro i’m a raum main tank on paladins and as soon as i started playing mauga i was convinced they’re basically the character. the weapons more of a mix of different weapons from paladins but mauga is just an earth realm raum

[@BaranErdeser]

Paladins has so many gimmicks that creating any character without any abilities from it is very hard

[@Mahoraga553]

my first thought was "is that raum"

[@jakeislavic3024]

Mauga's ultimate is just like the old school buck ultimate, his old ult used to create a cage made out of rocks to trap people to fight against him.

[@thamontine]

Wait really?!? That's much cooler than what he's got now. Now it's just "More Gun"

[@gobberquilachamin6911]

Paladins collabs with Overwatch when?????

[@T.K.F.]

You need more views and subs

[@thamontine]

Here's hoping 😊

[@T.K.F.]

I think you can be the ONE. The person to both upload OW2 and paladins.

[@thamontine]

Lol is this my destiny??

[@decimation9780]

'Twas not a movement ability that Roadhog received, but minor cc instead of what we were led to believe.

[@thamontine]

This isn't how I remember that Christmas boom starting...

[@BLOCKKADE]

very underrated bro

[@jaycross174]

nyx has chains upon double activation of her F ability

[@Dratina]

I feel like the conversation that no one wants to have is the fact that neither of these games are particularly original, before Overwatch 2 came out the game had a 5% originality rate mechanically speaking (see Shammy's video on this subject, she made a whole spreadsheet). And tbh that's perfectly okay, firstly the games both have enough going for themselves to be considered their own games, it's not about what's in the games but how those mechanics and systems are combined to give the game its identity. Plus in my case being able to use my skills on Drogoz to learn Overwatch as a Pharah player made moving between the games feel more fun than confusing.

[@NathansWargames]

Mauga ult is literall Ares/Odin ult from smite combined.

[@highsocks5914]

you could do this for essentially every character but thats how it goes.

[@fabioracoes4533]

You missed the hog predict it would be awsome to have a belly flop tho, Paladins and OW are two very smillar games I ve played a bunch of both and for some time I liked paladins the most the characters felt more original honestly the abilities felt like things ive never seen in other games like when evie came out that I played so much paladins this being said I think its okay for each game to "feed of each other" like evie is by far a better mei and to this day I m hoping for an OW character with some mechanic like soar the flight felt so good and would be cooler then just a dash or straight up flying like phara, it is an amazing abilitie to use. I agree with you when I saw maugas kit I thought Ive seen this before but hey not here so it might fit in in my opinion they are both amazing games that sometimes feed a bit too much of each other and thats fine honestly whats sad is that both games are a bit down and I would like to see the genre comeback to life but that seems very hard to do

[@goldenwolfae]

i should get back into paladins one of these days both games are really fun

[@SkyzeSkyHi]

I’ve honestly seen no overwatch person complain about character copy’s except paladins followers yet they say us overwatch followers complain about it

[@thamontine]

Anytime I ask my friend to even TRY the game that is the go to. That it is a bootleg. Its not and I'm tired of people saying one is copying the other. They are different games.

[@Dadertrix]

Annual reminder that sombra is just skye, even moreso now that sombra has a dot

[@immahamsteryogamer]

Sombra is better

[@Dadertrix]

@@immahamsteryogamer yeah, because every time Skye has been playable, she was obnoxious and meta, so they have to nerf her into irrelevance or she ruins the game for the entire enemy team

[@duchsmoka4590]

4:07 my brain: "yes."

[@inconsideratebox3900]

OW's hero design has become very similar to Paladins since the launch of OW2. Hope the quality doesn't pitfall like Paladins though.

[@robertwulff2600]

Hot take if paladins had the polish and budget of overwatch it would be by far the better game.

[@SHEEP_PRINCE_Gaming]

I've always said this about Paladins and Overwatch Paladins is more fun with characters with more interesting kits but lacked the budget and polish. Overwatch is more pleasant to look at and feels better to play with a larger community but had the most basic and bland mechanics when it came to heroes. and that they can both learn something about each other while Co-existing.

[@solsoman102]

i like how you explain how overwatch stole a concept from paladins while playing as the engineer

[@thamontine]

OH COME ON THAT'S A COLLAB! but that is funny...

[@Golden_Zeke]

Ramatra and nyx. Raum and Mauga.... wonder what's next.

[@awesomegamer2430]

I really wish RoadHog would've gotten the movement ability

[@thamontine]

Yeah that trap isn't as cool as I had hoped

[@kentuckyfriedsocks4384]

man i kinda miss paladins

[@skrrrtsusman3450]

imagine roadhog just swirlin on his tummy to get away real quick, would be fine having the be his rework

[@jacksonhorrocks4281]

I like OW, but I wish more heroes in it were as active as Paladins Champs

[@no.notfromRDR]

you know what tilts me a little? is that mauga will be way better than raum solely because overwatch doesn't have anti-heal on every hero. seriously hi rez, why did they made a tank based on outhealing the opponent when they can completly stop your healing by shooting them?

[@immahamsteryogamer]

1. Raum is bugged, anti-healing isn't supposed to affect Soul Armor. 2. CC is what makes him bad. If he was against a team with no CC, he would be free (which never happens).

[@monsterlordslayer5023]

You know that Raum's "heal" (which is actually over-health like mauga) doesn't get affect by cauterize right? He has multiple cards that heal his real heath based on the amount of over-health (or soul armor) he obtains. These card's healings are affected by cauterize, but his armor health gain will always be the same. It is a bug if the soul armor gain is affected by cauterize because it didn't do that before and there has been no patch note mention it, so it must be a bug.

[@justsatan6747]

Yeah I saw his abilities and said "Ah yes, Raum".

[@mmmfreshest]

Im in the group that there are only so many original ideas

[@fsdggsdf]

naw the dash from mauga is sion ult. and his cage is camille ult with morgana ult combined (league)

[@P.F_Factor]

Dude muaga was in lore for 5 years before release 😂

[@P.F_Factor]

its a none threat comment 😂 don't be to serouse

[@BloopTheNoop]

I KNEW I WASNT THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT HE WAS SO MUCH LIKE RAUM AND MOJI

[@leonzspotg]

to be fair, these games have so much shared similarities now the creativity will just overlap, when illari came out i legit thought they just mashed furia, io and raze (valorant) kits together lmfao

[@flyscout7116]

would you ever do a tf2 video the grandpa of hero shooters

[@thamontine]

Maybe? I've tried it but never seemed to get a good understanding of it...

[@veelution7615]

Barricks ult is more just a winston bubble.

[@PoohBerz]

u should have used ruam for the comparison. its quite actually the same abilitys

[@captainphoton1693]

0ls. Do no compare o'e character to multiple others. It's not impressive. Honestly mauga's double weapons is just an interesting way of ramping up damage. So it's already similar to raum. No need to bring moji. The heal is just raum's but reversed. It's heal focused and you can get shield. While raum is shield focused and you can get heal. Mauga's activate ability then do damage. Raum do damage then activate ability. And the charge is basicly the same except maug jumps and raum go further.

[@voratheharbinger2384]

I think they are both amazing games and i play them both

[@fuc321]

That movement ability guess was wrong LUL

[@aceofthespades3348]

8:15 to 8:25 why did this made me laugh so much

[@whyme3968]

Why is Iri 1 killer from dbd talking about overwatch 2?

[@thamontine]

That was my old logo. New video "1000" kinda explains it

[@bt--nw8cr]

Here after roadhog rework and I've been doing better with the pig pen ability then before the rework

[@theovasi2686]

you posted your placements in paladins now you should do the same on overwatch