Absolute professor of “I nerded out the intricate details, so you don’t have to.” 🙌 Thanks Maven
@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4Күн бұрын
THANK YOU for addressing/bringing to light the recoil bit. I think now only you and CoolGuy are about the only people I hear anything about it on. Everyone just defaults Arrowhead without even knowing what's going on. Definitely worth playing around with recoil as some are almost required to be at specific numbers to feel comfortable to use.
@thatoneguy2136Күн бұрын
Personally the whole deterministic recoil thing is dumb and pointless as hell. Should’ve just stick with recoil direction stat and that is it. The whole point of making invisible stats visible a while back was for this whole reason, weapon transparency. Adding another “invisible” stat is awful.
@swyping21 сағат бұрын
Probably because "deterministic recoil" was only added into the game about a year ago, and guns prior to that were better of using AB. Technically, Braytech Werewolf is an older rifle, just re-issued (new perks), so people may have just assumed that deterministic recoil isn't a thing on this gun. Personally, I already knew that AB wasn't really necessary on it, even on the old version of the rifle, because that's how my old gun came, with DSR and Vorpal and it already slapped back then.
@MeanMachineRAFКүн бұрын
1st I got: Rewind + Tremors 2nd I got: subsistance + Onlaught 3rd I got: Zen + KC 4th I got: Lone wolf + Tap.
@kingtyzzie8318Күн бұрын
I can get zen with everything but kinetic tremors 😭
@grauman63320 сағат бұрын
Like onslaught and subsistence
@Fastmach2316 сағат бұрын
You lucky dog! 😎
@Jerbo83Күн бұрын
I always wondered where babies came from. Now i know.
@Tuck44Күн бұрын
Came to the comments to mention this line. 😂 well done, Maven
@kollowКүн бұрын
My entire life, I believed a lie. Storks have nothing to do with babies.
@SadcatblakeКүн бұрын
Ive not seen the vid yet but know i laser focused to find the context.
@AndyBB77713 сағат бұрын
Zen Moment is definitely not a placebo on console. It virtually eliminates reticle scatter and greatly reduces recoil. Makes it much easier to consistently hit headshots at range.
@MavenPhoenixКүн бұрын
The first video ever where the sun wasn't glaring in my face
@PlixinityКүн бұрын
Yippie!!
@masterofnone453Күн бұрын
This is excellent behind the scenes lore😂
@OshMMfКүн бұрын
Thanx for the video but are you getting enough sleep ? You look tired in the face cam. Please don't overdo it, your health should come first !
@KrAyZi3GaMinGКүн бұрын
@@MavenPhoenix always thought it was your keylights...hope to see u again on the LFG..it was fun you and I farm HLS.
@SadcatblakeКүн бұрын
Im actually excited for the sniper too since it has the lone wolf closing time roll with a great origin trait.
@ctorresphotographyКүн бұрын
I've gotten 9, I repeat, 9 pugilist onslaught rolls in a row... so hard to keep grinding for it.
@jhsrt985Күн бұрын
That is fkn wild
@lesliejacoby9137Күн бұрын
I haven't gotten a single puglisist out of like 20 drop 😭. I just want one that I might use in the future
@eklipz3d23 сағат бұрын
At least you got the gun😭
@thecrunchyjoshКүн бұрын
1:58 thank you for finding my new wall for recoil testing! I love the additional pvp content.
@HypersleepGamingКүн бұрын
Can't believe I've played so much destiny, not too competitively, without knowing the exact intricacy of the recoil patterns working like that. Huge video for that alone.
@Tehkneekz20 сағат бұрын
they recently changed it too, it used to be a sort of spiral
@alotmorestuffКүн бұрын
"And that's how babies are made"😂😂😂 this had me rolling around! It's amazing the way you breakdown recoil. Always reminds me to test before I jump in. Thank you for having the best weapon review videos out there!
@360GameTV22 сағат бұрын
You reall compare a "god roll" AR vs a SMG? Not serious or? And you label this weapon as "god roll" because you don't have to reload?
@brienhays55087 сағат бұрын
Love the content! Some of the best analysis and also presented concisely, which is also how babies are made. ; ) I'd love a comparison of Kinetic Tremors on the new version of Chroma Rush and this Braytech for PvE. My Chroma Rush isn't quite perfect but it does have the updated Alloy Magazine. Combine that with Splicer Surge and you've got a 720 with a lightning reload (seriously, it's incredibly fast) that drops KT on enemies consistently fast. My interest is if the rpm difference -- 720 v 450 -- with the amazingly fast reload is enough to overcome the range advantage Braytech has. Right now the best I've gotten for both ends with: Chroma Rush: Range: 41 Stability: 69 Braytech: Range: 77 Stability: 41 Very difficult choice!
@MrPrice2UКүн бұрын
Thank you for this great video. I always feel like you truly try to figure things out, while others just rely on what is canon in the community. I completely trust you and your expertise. You are completely underrated! Keep em coming!
@MavenPhoenixКүн бұрын
thank u ^.^
@swagasaurus8568Күн бұрын
I always keep an eye for autos with KT since i used origin story with demo + KT for the getaway prismatic warlock build. KT fills transcendence so fast if you have facet of grace , i love it.
@sikkimese26818 сағат бұрын
Nice info on how recoil has more in depth mech than just raw numbers
@quackytellyКүн бұрын
I've compared my braytech tremors with the chroma rush tremors that I farmed recently (both with subsistence). Am so much happier with the chroma rush at 720 (no rewind rounds, but then I got 66 in the mag). Also yes, I am enjoying dps-ing majors and mini-bosses with enhanced tremors + enhanced precision instrument Hung Jury! Didn't realize kinetic tremors was this good until this season.
@quackytellyКүн бұрын
Oh wait, I meant since last season or episode or what do we call it now, when I was farming Pale Heart for class items. The ogres and bosses just dance with the tremors.
@henry.has.been.humbledКүн бұрын
Don’t forget to farm for midnight coup and that pulse in onslaught, they both have kinetic tremors. So good
@quackytellyКүн бұрын
Oh yes! My trusty weapons during campaign and around the Pale Heart.
@asawaraiКүн бұрын
Yeah Chroma Rush is just better, I need to get one with a better left column perk though. All I have is Killing Wind + Kinetic Tremors
@MiguelStein20 сағат бұрын
Wait until you see Garden of salvation bow which has a 2 tap Kinetic tremors
@nj-playing275118 сағат бұрын
I feel like when talking about recoil, you could mention that if the number ends in a 5 it’s vertical, or as close to vertical as it will get, so your 74 will always feel better than 100 because 4 is closer to the optimal second number of 5, I’m sure there have been several videos about this in the past, but never the less good stuff!!
@CollaateraL13 сағат бұрын
I was super fortunate to get an Arrowhead brake, RR, Dynamic sway, TTT a few years ago before deterministic recoil. So my Braytech has 100 recoil direction plus TTT and Dynamic. It’s literally a laser beam with no recoil. It’s unbelievable in PvP. I have also tested my recoil in a private match, and the way to go with no deterministic recoil is 100. Now I know most won’t have an old Braytech but just thought I’d share.
@michaelhines189122 сағат бұрын
Steelfeather used to be my GOAT back in the day. Something about that gun just felt awesome.
@KingJC.13 сағат бұрын
Kinda felt like a legendary quicksilver storm
@michaelhines189111 сағат бұрын
@@KingJC. It was around so long ago it was one of my first guns. I just remember it spat bullets at crazy rate. Back then I didn't even know about perks. It was just my favorite for the way it felt to use.
@PedroSantos-tp3lw19 сағат бұрын
is there a no kill required perk you would recommend using on column 2 for pvp?
@chinbusy6336Күн бұрын
Great review of one of my favourite weapons. I got my crayon stained hands on a LW+KC with Rico/smallbore. Also got LW,DSR + TTT. Still grinding for RR + Kinetic Tremors for some PVE mayhem. 🍻
@K2shadowfaxКүн бұрын
OP: Always good stuff from your deep dives into weapons and stuff. GGs Q: So, the ideal Recoil Direction (fresh out of the box, or, at base) is a) 89 or b) something else?
@MavenPhoenixКүн бұрын
Run the default 74 because that would allow you to run Ballistics
@jlrebor262619 сағат бұрын
im very happy with croma rush with subsistance and kinetic, its not the same, but with splicer surge and that it is a fast frame, i think subsistance is the best for that gun anyway, shame it doesnt have rewind though
@scotthanson536518 сағат бұрын
The best breakdown I've seen of traits of a weapon, good video
@MikaelNordgren12 сағат бұрын
Love your content. Super informative and very in depth understanding, which not only helps us all to get the best guns, but also understanding why. Awesome!
@INFINITYREALMКүн бұрын
Does this mean you need to test the deterministic recoil of every gun type since the number doesn't really mean anything?
@Iron_Born_LLCКүн бұрын
It helps to yeah, most people don’t though.
@WelverinКүн бұрын
Yes, it can vary wildly between the different numbers.
@thatoneguy2136Күн бұрын
If I remember correctly from all the twabs I’ve read, weapons post Into the Light use deterministic recoil. Weapons before that event just use the typical Recoil direction. So yes and no?
@johnotron604Күн бұрын
Nice, been farming these for PVE. There are about 7 rolls I want: Sub + KT/Onslaught, Rewind + KT/Onslaught/Target and Pugilist + KT/Onslaught. Happy I won't have to farm Gambit for Breakneck. Can spend Vanguard Engrams on something other than Origin Story for a while such as Wicked Sister.
@jeffreyblock1617 сағат бұрын
That whole recoil thing was eye opening. I never get many precision shots and recoil is probably why is my thoughts now
@devxvedКүн бұрын
Ive got this exact role like 5 times over. Also the acosmic is actually a poor mans chill inhibitor. Boasting less velocity, less blast radius, but more reload speed. And like at max 1 less mag, but i have yet to get a chill inhib so acosmic with clown cartridge, bait and switch. Actually keeps up in dps atm.
@emanstatom18 сағат бұрын
How do you focus this weapon?
@bosskey7212Күн бұрын
very well done Maven you always do your homework on these, I actually have one that has Puglist and Swashbuckler that I got over a year ago and made a nice PVE/Prismatic melee build out of it on my Warlock and I basically have devour up all the time, I also have the Rewind/Kinetic tremors build one too and they both slay
@ScarrJaw10 сағат бұрын
So I stopped grinding for class items after seeing this review and tried once.. first roll i got was rewind with kinetic tremors lol your good luck maven
@bbqdawgchicken3076Күн бұрын
Is rewind target lock any good or just use rewind + tremors?
@MavenPhoenixКүн бұрын
Rewind Tremors all the way
@lazerlinec177020 сағат бұрын
I know this is a very dumb question but can this drop with both perks you suggest in the Pve section of this video (rewind rounds & Kinetic Tremors) or does it need to be crafted to get those traits?
@Croi_FiainСағат бұрын
No crafting this, only drops or focusing from engrams at Eva, and only during Fotl for the next approx 10 days or so
@joon-young958913 сағат бұрын
How do you get engrams to drop? For me the drop rate is low compared to my friends it’s depressing playing this game
@ArchizombieКүн бұрын
Thanks Maven! You're really the only D2 creator that I trust in their reviews, this is no different!!
@SunbroJoeКүн бұрын
4:40 did you feel these out on controller or mouse/keyboard?
@lord_skavengerКүн бұрын
Excellent breakdown as usual. Really like your PvP takes. What two you think of pairing lone wolf with Tap the trigger for a consistency roll?
@MavenPhoenixКүн бұрын
Tap The Trigger barely effects full auto weapons at all. It was broken on semi auto weapons, which is why they quit doing that 3 years ago, with the only exception being the Liminal Vigil.
@Jonny_NemoКүн бұрын
Great review Maven. However, I do have a 7th Seraph Auto with Frenzy, but also Reconstruction and Rasputin's Arsenal, both of which reload the gun in their own way. Usually my go-to in GMs where I need an auto. It's pretty handy in PVP too, as you can often outlast other weapons in a dual. But, I will get my grind on as I only have a 4/5 Braytech..
@KidCyclone19 сағат бұрын
If I already have a chroma rush with subsistence and KT, what’s a good reason for grinding KT roll on this weapon?
@V_ii14 сағат бұрын
Great video. Is that background music from Super Mario Land (1989) on the Gameboy?
@Newby1Күн бұрын
So just gonna throw out there. You do Haunted Sectors for Engrams, and I would say probably base Nightfalls for candy. The candy value of sectors for time is abysmal. Even expert. When you can get 6 times as much from a standard nightfall for maybe twice the runtime.
@nrhurley1174 сағат бұрын
Subsistence and onslaught on this thing got me to round 5 in sorrows harbor solo. Solo.
@Mox_66Күн бұрын
Hi maven is the shotgun worth it?
@MavenPhoenixКүн бұрын
yeah just in case it gets buffed (which it probably will)
@freshmastere34587 сағат бұрын
Is this info viable for controller players on PS5 as well?
@miller888620 сағат бұрын
Closest was subsistence and kinetic tremors roll.
@R377R017 сағат бұрын
Overflow is bugged on some autos, currently. Breytech is affected. Bungie is investigating.
@StReborn311Күн бұрын
Zen is goated- Heresy! A lot of this depends on your preferred platform and input device- but Zen quite good either way the extra flinch resist, passive stability buff and reduction in bounce still super nice. Also word on the street is not every weapon magically got deterministic recoil so sayeth Coolguy- sometimes older versions and hold-overs retain the stat based recoil- Another point is perks like Zen cannot be tested on a wall. What I would like to know is how many shots does enhanced Kinetic tremors take to activate- if its like the Accrued Redemption at 2- it brings back the bows original ttk- . Good luck farming this everyone!
@KiiDSarajevo21 сағат бұрын
Maven truly is a gift to this community.
@captainwin6333Күн бұрын
Some of us need exotic class items before a legendary auto rifle, especially in a season with no auto rifle mod on the artifact. I'm running prismatic, the stasis area denial nade launcher so a kinetic auto rifle aint no use to me.
@Tehkneekz20 сағат бұрын
in a pulse rifle meta too
@guillermopacheco5005Күн бұрын
So I had this role already for PVE , but I had not used it till i saw this video. Wow it’s super awesome especially against champs and bosses !! Wow
@MrMurkymind3 сағат бұрын
So this drops only on xpert haunted sectors?
@youngZX6rКүн бұрын
thanks Maven! -- Glad I saved this roll in my vault , I too thought of it's potential being a 450 RPM
@dgstriker1Күн бұрын
Your videos are always a much watch...Keep on trucking...
@sshroom7713Күн бұрын
Oh yes that PVE roll looks sick. Thanks for sharing!
@wilmertorres525617 сағат бұрын
I got pugilist with onslaught this one is for titan but i am definitely gonna grind for the rewind rounds kinetic chamber & one for pvp
@micahdominguez874421 сағат бұрын
Most in-depth and informative d2 content creator by far.
@cykeok352522 сағат бұрын
3:15 "...and THAT, kids, is where babies come from." I knew my dad's weird explanation was total bullshit, thanks Maven!
@lanjaggКүн бұрын
Does the stickiness of aim assist have any impact on deterministic recoil? For example, when you’re aiming on an enemy, does the pattern stay tighter due to aim assist?
@thatguybgreen21 сағат бұрын
First time coming across you content…immediate fan, ggs
@rgkirkpatrick7 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@rgkirkpatrick2 сағат бұрын
I mean, wow. Watched the video. Managed to get both the PvP and PvE god rolls to drop within the same hour. Took each of them for a spin. @Maven, you rock. Neither of these will ever leave my vault.
@ZPUTSAMКүн бұрын
The recoil explanation was top tier
@paulmoviusshadowthorpe1786Күн бұрын
Checked my role - yes I have lone wolf/kill clip 74 recoil! Thanks for explaining deterministic recoil ☮️❤️
@Dr.VinheimСағат бұрын
Omg i wish i saw this before..dismantled both the pvp and pve god roll
@athenawiltfong5717Күн бұрын
I picked it up today. Havent had the chance to use it yet but after this Yellowstone episode, it's going to get put to work.
@papaspauldingКүн бұрын
Not sure about on PC but on console DSR and Zen absolutely do feel very different. That said I agree lone wolf is the perk to go for
@Ligh7BulbКүн бұрын
6:14 Base range of 69 😂 Oh Maven, we love you ❤️
@Entombed1974Күн бұрын
Thank you for the work you put in.
@carvermatheidas5487Күн бұрын
Your research and videos are amazing. Thank you so much for all you do!
@colemanjones4374Күн бұрын
I accidentally sharded a pugilist swashbuckler roll today:( my titan shed a single tear
@Igneous_Hammer22 сағат бұрын
You know what, I'm finally ready to add you to my Destiny KZbinr line up. Subscribed
@MrMightyZКүн бұрын
@ 1:10 further confirmation that KZbinrs don’t revive😁
@joshward5286Күн бұрын
Chroma rush with kinetic tremors also slaps
@boboleary660718 сағат бұрын
Zen and onslaught are working great in the crucible for me
@king_doge_Күн бұрын
Maven, you overestimate my ability to find someone to do dual destiny with lol
@MavenPhoenixКүн бұрын
post in the Destiny 2 LFG discord and you can get like 10 people to join you within a minute
@redband100017 сағат бұрын
It's good but I will stick with the one in my vault from when it was first released, max range, with a range master work, zen moment, kill clip, armor-piercing rounds, hammer forged rifling 8k kills even use in trials its nuts
@Eragon_14720 сағат бұрын
My second focused engram I got the god roll. This was gods work.
@WelverinКүн бұрын
I like Rewind Rounds, but I still prefer StL, Attrition Orbs or one of the ability regen perks.
@WelverinКүн бұрын
p.s. Steelfeather Repeater is actually coming back?
@linja3946Күн бұрын
I got the previous DSR+TTT and this season lonewolf/kill clip with high caliber. Also got RR Onslaught and Zen KC but still looking for the RR KT roll to complete the best rolls in my collections...
@jaymahnC5Күн бұрын
Thanks M! Always appreciate your hard work
@larry8651Күн бұрын
What’s your thoughts on chrysura melo? I absolutely love this weapon
@MavenPhoenixКүн бұрын
360 Autos are one of the worst archetypes in PvE sadly
@Iron_Born_LLCКүн бұрын
How’s it stack up against base kvhostov without the eyes up perk active?
@lesliejacoby9137Күн бұрын
I would love to get just pugilist on this but I don't think that's happening seeing I've gone 0 for 20 on roles
@sinnedthesensei7099Күн бұрын
If you still have the ringing nail, it claps. I stopped playing really, but when I get on I just put that on and pretty much match or beat everything else.
@JohnSmith-dw6rp15 сағат бұрын
i don't have any DLC so i come back to destiny only for these events, so I will be grinding. I can't unlock the exotic class item because no DLC, at least I wasn't able to buy them from Xur. I was able to but the surf board sparrow from Xur tho.
@danielcolt5542Күн бұрын
I I think chroma rush is better despite subsistence being worse than rewind just because it procs KT substantially faster
@wasp.watcher18 сағат бұрын
FOTL ends on Nov 19.
@madcatmortyКүн бұрын
I've been farming the crap outta this AR for a Lone Wold/KK roll, and all I keep getting is LW/Desperate Measures (I've gotten 11 so far).
@banksy_gg14 сағат бұрын
Base recoil is perfectly manageable
@alexcalaf1891Күн бұрын
Maven, you are so appreciated in the community. Thanks for all you do. Because of you my game plays has leveled up drastically. Let's run a GM one day lol
@BengassaКүн бұрын
I'm so torn about this weapon... I really dislike 450 feel when I'm using it but it works in high LVL content! I love the feel of my Chroma rush but my testing shows it not work that well... I'm almost sad
@BarlehКүн бұрын
tending right is better than left for me, as a right-handed person using a mouse. windshield wiper aim
@AshleyRobinson-os1xb22 сағат бұрын
It's decent cuz it's a Kinetic, drops from playing solo haunted sectors but that's it's only problem - everybody has one.
@pirate_duck498519 сағат бұрын
Appreciate the flashing warning! Home alone atm, doesn't always trigger seizures but y'know random BS seems to be the way 😑🤦 Currently hunting down a Werewolf right now looking for a decent Tremors roll!
@derek3154Күн бұрын
Still hunting Rewind/KT!! Never though about Actium WarRig, that’s awesome 👏 😎
@richardbuffolino938416 сағат бұрын
To clear up her statement, if you play solo and dont have the class item yet then buy it. Then start farming the guns.
@insomniac9366Күн бұрын
I've only been able to get substance and kinetic tremor s which I'm happy with it.
@insomniac9366Күн бұрын
To be honest imo I've just tested my braytech werewolf agaist my ros arago Iv with rewind rounds and onslaught, and I prefer my ros arago for pve.
@aidenfoxhayesКүн бұрын
I can't say for certain for Breytech but Jurassic Green is bugged rn and it doesn't have deterministic recoil. Which is really hampering that gun.
@WelverinКүн бұрын
I suspect it is its worst in class stats that are hampering it.
@DaniellaHans-e9jКүн бұрын
1:58 thank you for finding my new wall for recoil testing! I love the additional pvp content.
@skuirrelTVКүн бұрын
If I focus my drops for the Braytech, can I still get the shader?
@MavenPhoenixКүн бұрын
idk how u get the shader. I already got it from hall of champs.
@WelverinКүн бұрын
Do you mean the memento? If so, yes. I got one focusing Werewolf tonight. If you mean Superblack, that's acquired from a secret triumph which doesn't compete with focusing weapons.