Max Domi & Tyler Bertuzzi Want To Remain With Maple Leafs ...What Are They Worth? | SDP

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Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake discuss the rumours surrounding both Tyler Bertuzzi and Max Domi looking for extensions with the Toronto Maple Leafs. They're asking for HOW MUCH!?
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@michaelmignone5869
@michaelmignone5869 4 ай бұрын
That's the problem paying those 4 guys over 10 mil, sets the tone and expectations for the rest of the team to not settle on team friendly deals
@mattrix4200
@mattrix4200 4 ай бұрын
Exactly! The ''culture'' of this team will remain so long as the ''top dogs'' keep getting paid to break records in the regular season and then have their vacation plans with Bieber set for May each year.
@NickRants
@NickRants 4 ай бұрын
Not really, we are a tax market, Tampa bay it’s 9 mil but these guys getting 11 mill is about 9 mil after taxes
@dizk8488
@dizk8488 4 ай бұрын
Steve is absolutely correct, anything over 5 x 5M Domi can walk.
@wizzerwiser2056
@wizzerwiser2056 4 ай бұрын
Max is not worth more than 3.5
@cjmllvv
@cjmllvv 4 ай бұрын
I could give him 4 but not more. 5 years is a lot also. 4x4 sounds more reasonable. Or 4x3
@adamjanks4966
@adamjanks4966 4 ай бұрын
Then he’s gonna walk
@wizzerwiser2056
@wizzerwiser2056 4 ай бұрын
@@adamjanks4966 Let's hope so.
@jordanstreib3898
@jordanstreib3898 4 ай бұрын
5x5m is a good deal exspecially cap will be going up. And I wouldn't give bertuzzi more then 6m on a longer term. Jets paid this year Nino 3x4m Iafallo 4.1m Goodrow in NYC 3.6m Coleman 4.9m Atkinson 5.8m Mangiapane 5.8m Strome brothers matching 5m Granlund 5m Hayes 7.1m Saad 4.5m Nelson 6m Anders Lee 7m Villardi 3.5m Arvidsson 4.2m Johansson Wild 4m EricksonEk 5.25m Eberle 4.75m TomWilson 6.5m JoshAnderson 5.5m Oshie 5.75m Dvorak 4.45m Laughton 3m Lowry 2.9m Jenner 3.75m Garland 4.95m Mikheyev 4.75m Engvall 3m Kuzmenko 5.5m EvanderKane 5.1m Palat 6m Hyman 5.5m Nyquist 3.185m TylerJohnson was making 5m UFa RyanORielly 4.5m but Nsh has 0%tax It goes back again to Tavares and making 11m when that 22m could be spent on 4/5 players. When you think of bad contracts PLD-8.5m Johansen- 8m done hockey Skinner- 9m Gaudreau-9.75m Laine-8.7m Huberdeau-10.5m Couture 8m Norris 7.85m Karlsson even after retain 10m Cambell 5m
@wizzerwiser2056
@wizzerwiser2056 4 ай бұрын
Domi wants to play here because he knows it's the only market that will overpay him. There's a reason he's played for 7 clubs before the age of 30.
@benoitrobitaille5235
@benoitrobitaille5235 4 ай бұрын
First 3 teams were trading inconsistent/overhyped assets for inconsistent/overhyped assets (Galchenyuk, Domi, Anderson) in hopes it works out. Next Carolina traded for him as a rental, followed by Chicago who obviously wanted to trade him off at the deadline (in rebuild) … to Dallas which got him as a rental to finally the Leafs who signed him for 1 year …. As a rental ? Tryout ? Prove it deal ? Hometown discount ? Toronto might be the first team actually signing him since Phoenix to be more than a rental or plugging holes.
@wizzerwiser2056
@wizzerwiser2056 4 ай бұрын
@@benoitrobitaille5235 And his hype by the city and the media is the only reason they might resign him.
@richardthompson6366
@richardthompson6366 4 ай бұрын
Anybody can play with Matthews, he will still get goals.
@mattrix4200
@mattrix4200 4 ай бұрын
@@richardthompson6366 ...except when it matters you mean right? We've had 7yrs of playoffs against 4 different teams PROVE that it isn't hard to stop Matthews, Marner, Nylander & Johnny T in the playoffs.
@drlca6601
@drlca6601 4 ай бұрын
@@wizzerwiser2056 u know they will
@xxjustsaiyanxx6294
@xxjustsaiyanxx6294 4 ай бұрын
20g 56 pts on chicago+ Dallas can only get a 3m dollar prove it deal. 9 goals 47 pts on toronto somehow makes him worth 6m for 5 years. What a joke.
@CaptainSauce
@CaptainSauce 4 ай бұрын
Max Domi 18g 49 points on Chicago, $3M 1 year prove yourself 9g 47 points on Toronto, $6M 5 years country club is thriving
@NotAsianButFlip
@NotAsianButFlip 4 ай бұрын
I think for max it should be around 4.5…anything over 5 is overpay
@KevinMcGuire-b2p
@KevinMcGuire-b2p 3 ай бұрын
Domi is a 3rd line center that plays similar to Bertuzi and had tough time scoring.
@ricklatour2794
@ricklatour2794 4 ай бұрын
Dummi has been on 7 teams in 7 years - that has to say something
@gargallant9811
@gargallant9811 4 ай бұрын
He’s The Expendable 👋🏼
@Matthewkniesfan
@Matthewkniesfan 3 ай бұрын
Not a bad player but not 4-6 mill im a leafs fan I seem to be one of the only ones who think this but he’s not even 30 points without matthews and Matthews doesn’t suffer without him he is just good no matter who he’s with the proof is before marner was injured look how bad domi was doing and how good matthews was overall would like him at a 3-3.5 mill salary he has ok playmaking skill but not great playmaking skill certainly doesn’t have as much as some of us leafs fans are hyping up plus doesn’t shoot love the grit tho but again I don’t agree that spending 12 mill on him and Bert alone purely for grit is the answer when we need a goalie and some dman
@Hangiinjohnny
@Hangiinjohnny 4 ай бұрын
Domi didn’t deserve his last contract, if he gets over 4 it’s robbery
@aaronquiambao8134
@aaronquiambao8134 4 ай бұрын
Can't expect the rest of the team to take a discount when the leaders of the team (AM, WN, MM and JT) did not.
@mattrix4200
@mattrix4200 4 ай бұрын
Actually JT did... but he's STILL not worth the contract he signed even with the discount.
@aaronquiambao8134
@aaronquiambao8134 4 ай бұрын
@@mattrix4200 true there was a $12mil offer on the table, however, like you said not worth the dollar amount. Definitely would’ve been less of an issue if covid didn’t happen but the team also didn’t adjust
@mattrix4200
@mattrix4200 4 ай бұрын
@@aaronquiambao8134 Yeah I actually don't fault the original Dubas plan (sign up a crazy amount of skilled players to long-term contracts and watch the cap rise giving you more flexibility as time rolls along)...but...then Covid, no cap increase, and no adjustment (just stubborn pride and refusal to admit mistakes).
@mattsmith6857
@mattsmith6857 4 ай бұрын
The fact that someone is making an argument that domi is worth up to 6 million is completely brain dead idea. You can’t pay bad contracts and think you’re going to win anything if he wants that much let him walk
@gh4121-b5n
@gh4121-b5n 4 ай бұрын
Domi’s only played more than 2 yrs for 7 other NHL teams “Once” and that was Arizona his first 3 yrs. Every other stop it’s been 2 years. The Habs, 2 yrs. First year he gets 72 points, 2nd year he gets 44 and the Habs say ba bye. Plus Domi is a Defensive liability.
@thepinkplushie
@thepinkplushie 4 ай бұрын
Bertuzzi isn't staying. He can say he wants to stay on the team but the only way he stays on the team is by taking something in the ballpark of 4m and he isn't going to take that. Domi is probably more open to negotiation on that front.
@cdb989
@cdb989 4 ай бұрын
To ask for almost double the salary is mind blowing I’am with Steve on this one
@amanasd26
@amanasd26 4 ай бұрын
Lol what he made before doesn't matter, it matters what he's worth now. The amount of people wanting to get billionaires a deal is hilarious
@cdb989
@cdb989 4 ай бұрын
@@amanasd26 it does matter he’s not worth 6 million
@amanasd26
@amanasd26 4 ай бұрын
@@cdb989 not saying he is, but seeing people argue in favour of billionaires is bootlicker mentality
@MrMortadella1
@MrMortadella1 4 ай бұрын
6 million for 9 goals and 47 points. lol only in Toronto
@hurtlocker6611
@hurtlocker6611 4 ай бұрын
more like 5 years 4 mil a season
@wizzerwiser2056
@wizzerwiser2056 4 ай бұрын
It's funny cause it's true 😂. Remember his pops got millions for playing 6 minutes a game.
@dingbatjack1234
@dingbatjack1234 4 ай бұрын
EXACTLY!
@leafsinseven
@leafsinseven 4 ай бұрын
this whole idea of bertuzzi and domi showed up in the playoffs is pure nonsense too lol. 1 goal and 3 assists for each in 7 games is not showing up, they got bounced in the first round like they always do. giving domi or bertuzzi anything over 4m for any number of years would be a disaster contract, both fully bang average players with some absolutely catastrophic flaws in their game. and don't be kidded on by any of that "they're tough" nonsense either, they aren't. they just don't play as timid as the core four so they look marginally better by comparison
@donniedoesdishes
@donniedoesdishes 4 ай бұрын
@@hurtlocker6611 you left a 0 out after the 4
@ChristianArms
@ChristianArms 4 ай бұрын
Loved how that Auston, Domi and Bertuzzi line looked. Keep them together please!!
@Asymmetrical-Saggin
@Asymmetrical-Saggin 4 ай бұрын
Lol Adam is just in another world.
@sniperovski
@sniperovski 4 ай бұрын
I’d take Zadorov at 6M 100 times before either of these bums
@MauriceVandenberg-c8j
@MauriceVandenberg-c8j 4 ай бұрын
DID THESE 2 LOOK AT VIDEO OF THEIR PERFORMANCE IN THE 1st round?
@Lee-f9w5v
@Lee-f9w5v 4 ай бұрын
Anything over 4M on either Bert or Domi is too much! Same with Debrusk!
@McLeaner99
@McLeaner99 4 ай бұрын
DeBrusk is likely getting 6M on the market especially if Toronto ends up extending Bert and Domi
@stephenkinsella4009
@stephenkinsella4009 4 ай бұрын
I would pay that for Debrusk he’s a player then either of those players!
@dipeachio6832
@dipeachio6832 4 ай бұрын
As a Bruins fan 3 million + performance bonuses for goals is more than enough. He's cold as ice for 10-15 games then scores 4 or 5 then disappears for the next 10 ​@@stephenkinsella4009
@ST-TV
@ST-TV 4 ай бұрын
@@McLeaner99 He might get that on the market, he is not worth it.
@MrKubbler
@MrKubbler 4 ай бұрын
Let the kids play, use the farm team.
@KS-xk2so
@KS-xk2so 4 ай бұрын
I'd go Domi at 5 years for 20-22.5. Anything beyond that, see ya Max!
@RobbieG17
@RobbieG17 4 ай бұрын
22.5 for 5 sounds pretty good for everyone. Or, they (Domi and Bertuzzi,) take another 1-year deal to wait out JT and Marner contracts, and then go long-term with a raise.
@Zaeld
@Zaeld 4 ай бұрын
I bet you also probably said "see ya Hyman!" to Zach Hyman when he wanted 5.5m per year thinking he wasn't worth it 😂
@KS-xk2so
@KS-xk2so 4 ай бұрын
@@Zaeld I wanted them to resign Hyman actually... and I'd have been fine with 5. To be fair, at the time, 5 was the tops of what he was worth. No one saw this year coming.
@KS-xk2so
@KS-xk2so 4 ай бұрын
@MethodzBlem No.
@Zaeld
@Zaeld 4 ай бұрын
@@KS-xk2so There's no way you thought hyman was worth 5m+ because 5m+ back than was worth more than it is now with the salary cap going up year by year and you are having a hard time accepting Domi at 5m who arguably has more value than Hyman did when hyman resigned for 5.5m. Domi is able to center the #1 line, plays tough, can fight and plays hard in the playoffs. Hyman's value wasn't as high as Domi's value because of Domi being a center and he can center the #1 line but 5m+ is cheaper now than it was back than so I have a hard time believing you.
@Smf7161
@Smf7161 4 ай бұрын
Leafs need to resign Doms and Bert to 3-4 year contracts? Encourage, Mitchy to waive his NMC, and acquire a goaltender and big, heavy d-man! Tre. GET-R-DONE!
@alltheworldsastage.
@alltheworldsastage. 4 ай бұрын
Marner isn’t going anywhere. Lol.
@hurtlocker6611
@hurtlocker6611 4 ай бұрын
@@alltheworldsastage. he is this summer or next but he is GONE.
@ScubaSteveCanada
@ScubaSteveCanada 4 ай бұрын
@@hurtlocker6611 They hired Berube to light a fire under the feet of the team. Marner isn't going anywhere. Maybe next year's trade deadline. What goalie can they possibly get this summer?
@darrelldart4573
@darrelldart4573 4 ай бұрын
​@@ScubaSteveCanadanone this whole trade Marner bit is tiring why instead of trading the teams second best player why wouldn't they het rid of all the rest of the dead weight like Kampf Gregor Liljegren Robertson you know those guys who did absolutely nothing most of the season and into the playoffs let walk 8 of the 11 free agents and hell let walk the rfas aswell all deadweight sign 2 free agents trade off those other players who have done nothing but collect a paycheck so sick and tired of broken players on the verge of retirement too
@scottcampbell5536
@scottcampbell5536 3 ай бұрын
@@ScubaSteveCanada Ullmark ..
@michaelallport5816
@michaelallport5816 4 ай бұрын
Harold Ballard lives!
@sidetrak85
@sidetrak85 4 ай бұрын
Calm down guys. You know how negotiations go. He asks for 6 x 4, they counter with 4 , settle 4.5 but add a year. 4.5 x 5 sounds decent
@stacksedwardsog
@stacksedwardsog 4 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s a part of the process I feel like…
@2buxaslice
@2buxaslice 4 ай бұрын
This is Toronto, He'll ask for 6 and they'll give him 8 years for 7.75
@yukoncorneliusthelegendhim9751
@yukoncorneliusthelegendhim9751 4 ай бұрын
domi isnt worth a penny over 3.5 you guys are insane
@stacksedwardsog
@stacksedwardsog 4 ай бұрын
@@yukoncorneliusthelegendhim9751 no way man …. 4-4.5 x 4/5 years could be totally feasible
@thepinkplushie
@thepinkplushie 4 ай бұрын
@@2buxaslice It's Toronto, they'll give him 10 million for 8 years with the condition he puts "MARNER" on the back of his jersey
@ericekman4190
@ericekman4190 4 ай бұрын
SDPN has such a fetish for the NBA. If the NHL were like the NBA, mcdavid would be on his 6th super team as he and his buddies chase easy cups and guys like PLD would be a dime a dozen.
@ShanlySuepaul
@ShanlySuepaul 4 ай бұрын
I love Steve's energy and I'm here for it.
@MMWoodworking
@MMWoodworking 4 ай бұрын
It would be so funny having Marner leave, and your replacement for the open cap is… just paying two guys you already have more. Lol. Somehow paying the same to lose 90ish points in the regular season. What a deal.
@lukeman1578
@lukeman1578 4 ай бұрын
I agree with Steve. The market in Toronto is crazy but either Domi signs for $4.5 million X 4 years and Bert maybe $4.5 -$5 million X4 years. We have cap space but I won't break the bank. Either players want to play for the Leafs having the chance to win a SC or they can Fck Off
@marquisduhsade
@marquisduhsade 3 ай бұрын
2:01 I agree
@brianbanks3882
@brianbanks3882 4 ай бұрын
Love how you all passionate about a team who irrelevant, and always will be!
@James-nv1wf
@James-nv1wf 4 ай бұрын
Odd how so many neutral fans even comment on this irrelevant team.
@GP8201
@GP8201 4 ай бұрын
Hahahaha! 5 million for Domi per year are you out of your mind, Adam Wylde? Paying him anything close to Zach Hyman?!? After what Domi was doing for the Leafs? What was he even doing until they had to put him with Matthews in order for him to accomplish anything of meaning?!? But even then he was average at best with Matthews. Cowan could do more. Knies and Robertson could do more. Neither Domi or Bertuzzi are even worth sacrificing 8 mil cap per year for both. Neither were a factor in the playoffs. I swear, some of these "experts" are just clueless. Do some research; look at all the available players to swap those two utility players out for. And for far less. GTFOH.
@ABCowl
@ABCowl 4 ай бұрын
I don’t watch this very often is Steve was like this every episode I would watch every time !
@Brydigan94
@Brydigan94 4 ай бұрын
You mean a smug no it all who gives leafs fans a bad name and acts like he knows what’s best because he won the cup with the leafs in franchise mode on the nhl video game?
@tonykung8756
@tonykung8756 4 ай бұрын
Then let Domi walk and see if he can get what he wants in the open market... If you're playing this game where you're asking players to take discounts for being a Leaf, then follow through and be ok if they walk as a free agent on July 1st.
@JohnnyLREACTS
@JohnnyLREACTS 4 ай бұрын
Do not re-sign either Domi or Bert spend the money better elsewhere. Also these rumoured numbers on Domi are shocking avoid at all costs.
@vipeholmskolan6052
@vipeholmskolan6052 4 ай бұрын
The Leafs need Domi but anything over 5M is too much.
@donniedoesdishes
@donniedoesdishes 4 ай бұрын
anything over 1 mil is an overpayment
@vipeholmskolan6052
@vipeholmskolan6052 4 ай бұрын
@@donniedoesdishes no
@Matthewkniesfan
@Matthewkniesfan 3 ай бұрын
We don’t need him for anything over 3.5 mill let’s be real it’s Auston he won’t suffer he was playing just as well before the Mitch injury happened that told me everything I need to know Domi needs him to even break 30 pts
@plrt6794
@plrt6794 4 ай бұрын
Why do the Leafs have this tunnel vision with forwards and seem to completely forget defence and goaltending?
@Firearcher4
@Firearcher4 4 ай бұрын
I woukld go 3 years on Domi at 3.5 million and no more.
@sctvfan1313
@sctvfan1313 4 ай бұрын
Always love watching the boys having to scramble to get Steve back on topic -- it reminds me of when we visit our dad at the nursing home... you guys are great!
@wizzerwiser2056
@wizzerwiser2056 4 ай бұрын
Steve is a clown.
@MrMortadella1
@MrMortadella1 4 ай бұрын
lol give Domi and Bertuzzi raises and just leave defense and goaltending to scrubs. Yeah that’s always been a winning formula for playoff success.
@Zaeld
@Zaeld 4 ай бұрын
I think big changes are going to happen. Tavares's contract is almost up and Treliving might look to break up the core 4 by trading one of them this off season. I don't want Samsonov as our #1 goalie but it's also not impossible to win with average goaltending as we can see the Edmonton Oilers are consistently making it to the conference finals with one of the worse defence and goalies in the league but yeah I still want a real goalie for less stress. It's too bad Joseph Woll is injury prone because if he wasn't injury prone he would have probably been our #1 goalie by now. We also lost our top goalie prospect to retirement because he was injury prone and couldn't play anymore because of it and that was the goalie we drafted 1 spot before Swayman. Man our luck really sucks..
@cravex06
@cravex06 4 ай бұрын
@@Zaeld The Leafs would also consistently make it to the conference finals in the west. It's also match ups that are a problem. The east and their division is much stronger than most of the teams the Oilers face.
@pattonsivory
@pattonsivory 4 ай бұрын
Dont we need a top end D or Goalie more than Domi?
@wbj2000
@wbj2000 3 ай бұрын
Domi was the best playoff player on the Leafs by far. The Leafs need more players like Domi. He hard to play against, with a ton of grit you need to succeed when the games count. He is the opposite of the typical soft Leafs player. He goes into the tough area.. grinds on the boards. He is the type of player that will carry the team when the Core four becomes invisible or hides in bed while the biggest games are played. You can't blame the current players for the Dumas created salary expectation. Everyone is lining up to make the BIG BUCKS now!!
@JPBelanger
@JPBelanger 4 ай бұрын
How many teams had Max Domi and after a short stint decided to get rid of him? He's a 29 year old journeyman.....
@qlyde
@qlyde 4 ай бұрын
This conversation is ridiculous when AM makes $13.25M next year. 40-50 goals is what can be expected, and his playoff performance is a $5M player at BEST. Max brings the best out of Auston and were saying he's not even worth 60% less... AM can't be replaced. Period. But this team needs to get real with their salary structure. It's a joke. You should be able to afford, $5M on a goalie, $5M each on top 2 D, and few $5M on your top 6. We almost can't afford anyone sat $5M because of the cap mismanagement of 4 guys.
@drlca6601
@drlca6601 4 ай бұрын
oooooold news... team has been scuffed for at least six years.
@CheeseWizzard16
@CheeseWizzard16 4 ай бұрын
Lebrun and Dreggor are player agent moles and their only objective is to drive up market values of hockey players or in particular Toronto Maple Leaf players . Dreggor had a lot to do with driving up Marners current contract and Pierre seems to be doing it with Bert and Domi .
@thomass2451
@thomass2451 3 ай бұрын
The truest sign that Domi wants to be a Leaf is that he’s looking for double what he’s worth.
@jardine2392
@jardine2392 4 ай бұрын
Steve is 100% right. At some point, simply win a contract negotiation. Just one time. Please.
@rmo2149
@rmo2149 3 ай бұрын
Regarding Marner. Would a trade to the Islanders make sense if it was for Palmieri and 2 second rounders plus a 2nd or 3rd in 2026
@formulahank1250
@formulahank1250 4 ай бұрын
The problem is not only do upcoming free agents know the Leafs cave easily in negotiations, but they’ve also seen former Leafs like Holl, Kerfoot, and Hyman get above-value deals when they hit the open market
@jazzpig1
@jazzpig1 4 ай бұрын
Steve is spot on, about every single aspect. Leafs may have to take a step backward before they start assembling a proper team to take a shot at the cup.
@mike4351
@mike4351 3 ай бұрын
I could see the Leafs signing Domi and Bert while taking a touch of a hit on a Marner trade. Domi and Bert combined bring what Marner brings while freeing up cap space which is why I could see this happening. Think of it this way: would you rather have Marner (making 13 million) or would you rather have Domi, Bert, and a BIG Zadorov for 15 million??? I think business wise it makes sense to trade Marner but it is a really hard thing to ask Marner to waive NMC really ruins the relationship with the team and Mitchy is obviously an impact player that any team would want.
@manuelmayer3322
@manuelmayer3322 4 ай бұрын
I would love to see Bertuzzi and Domi in a Leafs jersey in the future. Both are great with Auston. But I think to do this, the Leafs has to get rid of Marner and/or Tavares. But I would also love to see Dostal in the Leafs net.
@norm996
@norm996 4 ай бұрын
Domi should not get anything about the league minimum... he was washed 5 years ago, how is this even a conversation? Only in Toronto
@GoodMenstruationAttitude
@GoodMenstruationAttitude 3 ай бұрын
wow I have never said this before but Adam is correct! Don't be mad at Domi for wanting to get paid like a top 6 forward. Be mad at Dubas for signing those absurd contracts that now require you to move Marner. But yes, you guys do need to start leveraging "pajamas" into "hometown discounts".
@JMToronto
@JMToronto 3 ай бұрын
Steve your right period.
@NiftyMitts.
@NiftyMitts. 4 ай бұрын
I’m 100% with Steve
@APEXAerial-51
@APEXAerial-51 4 ай бұрын
Leafs need to start a new president. Only get paid when you start winning!
@kevinhamilton7541
@kevinhamilton7541 4 ай бұрын
Love these conversations, as a Habs fan!
@brendanwoerner3352
@brendanwoerner3352 4 ай бұрын
That’s why I’m happy as a devils fan and stumbled on it. I love Mr. Grouchy Pants!
@deeewhite8559
@deeewhite8559 3 ай бұрын
5 million for Domi with term!!!! LMAO, Hyman had more goals than Domi had points and he only makes 5.5million. LMAO
@bobknight6394
@bobknight6394 4 ай бұрын
your out of your minds to give domi 6 mill.. how about 5 yrs at 3.5 mill
@BurtTurbo
@BurtTurbo 4 ай бұрын
you are = you're
@nathanspreitzer6738
@nathanspreitzer6738 4 ай бұрын
Now THAT is delusional, sorry
@TWKOZAK
@TWKOZAK 4 ай бұрын
The comedy never ends. Stop kidding yourselves. If you play in Toronto, the Leafs have to pay a tax. Toronto has to overpay. 57 years of failure comes with a cost. Domi was playing for his next contract.
@ricklatour2794
@ricklatour2794 4 ай бұрын
with all the free agents the experts say the Leafs are signing, they will need a 200m salary cap
@Vegland
@Vegland 4 ай бұрын
I love you guys but being mad at a guy for asking for fair value because the leafs are strapped isnt in touch. Plus, you want him to take a discount while others haven't is scotch hipocritical no? Give that guy 6 for 6 and the production goes up. And he will live and die Blue. Love Nylander but he didn't take a discount, he wanted to stay. Twice. After last sign did his production go up?? Tavares wanted to go there.. Discount?? Marner?? why are the role guys expected to shave income when stars don't?? Role Players Win cups... Stars cant do it alone. If Edmonton wins this year maybe i am wrong but I love the Leafs and think Domi and Bertuzzi are exactly the guys that will help get them to the promise land. Trade marner, Pay Bert and domi.
@Vegland
@Vegland 4 ай бұрын
Just a side note, there is something reflecting steve onto the monitor behind you guys. its a bit distracting and you guys are going for big things with this channel so thought you should know for production quality sake.
@t.m.l.t.m.l.5399
@t.m.l.t.m.l.5399 4 ай бұрын
Domi is 29 and does not score enough. Plays big but is not a big player. 3mil is a fair amount. The extra cap space is already gone to Mathews and Nylander. Defence, goaltending should be top priority. Not to mention we need more size up front and on defence. They are going to have to go young and cheap. Minten and Cowan. No real change can happen until next year when Marner and Tavares contracts are up. Unless of course they trade them for what we really need.
@john60123
@john60123 3 ай бұрын
3 yr deal at 5 million, no more! For both players.
@webbdelasteve
@webbdelasteve 3 ай бұрын
Stephenson/Duchene/Monahan/Martinook/Sprong at a lower number before that. Domi at 4 per MAX.
@JoelNads72
@JoelNads72 3 ай бұрын
No way Domi expects 6x6. He starts high to make sure he ends up around 5-5.5/per However, 5x5 would be the most I would do and even then I bet there are cheaper guys to do the same job. Max is banking on being a decent player and the Domi name in Toronto.
@garycochrane4829
@garycochrane4829 4 ай бұрын
I am not sure why Domi would get a raise. Keep him short term or let him walk.
@jiujitsujunkee
@jiujitsujunkee 4 ай бұрын
Would you rather have Domi AND Bertuzzi OR Marner OR Tavares at their cap hit? Seems like a no brainer
@michaelhutz405
@michaelhutz405 3 ай бұрын
dom and bert were invisible the first half of the season. I'm hoping that was on how Keefe played them.
@RustyRoo911
@RustyRoo911 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t go over a 3 year deal take it or leave it on either one of them
@etcot8220
@etcot8220 3 ай бұрын
Domi was the best leafs vs the bruins for the first 5 games, he and Knies by a mile. Domi is sane to not sign anything under 5.5 especially for a Canadian team.
@shenanikens
@shenanikens 4 ай бұрын
I can understand not wanting to pay that much. Listening to 11 minutes of “take less money for my team” “how dare you pretend to like this team and try to make a lot of money” are bad takes. I have a hard time taking someone seriously who wants to advocate for players but acts like a toddler who had his cookie taken away when a player wants to make the most for risking their health.
@miyu545
@miyu545 4 ай бұрын
I think Steve needs to change his rag. Domi had more points this year than 8 out of the top 10.
@HumanLikeMan
@HumanLikeMan 4 ай бұрын
I'd let him walk and the open up positions for some of the up and comers, Easton.
@Listman11
@Listman11 4 ай бұрын
All you Leafs fans arguing that the cap is going up so the Leafs can sign more players. I’ve told you guys that the current players would gobble up all the cap increase. Nylander and Mathews already got raises.
@mattrix4200
@mattrix4200 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I've been saying this to people on comment sections for the past few weeks because people don't realize how many players we've lost to free-agency, and how many contract increases we have. It's going to be insane how much the Leafs STILL need to downgrade their talent just because of the Matthews & Nylander extensions + not having enough NHL defencemen & goalies signed.
@SchnebsGarage
@SchnebsGarage 3 ай бұрын
Bunch of millionaires chasin pucks around .. bank balance is more important than the Cup. That Pasta goal in game 7 was a disgrace, most of our best players were on the ice and it looked like not one of these superstars could be bothered to skate let alone actually cover uh.. I dunno .. one of the best players in the game.
@robertstanford1778
@robertstanford1778 3 ай бұрын
Domi should not get more than 4 and 4 deal, Bert is in the same ballpark not a penny more. If I have to take one of them its Max he just brings more upside to the table. The money could be better spent elsewhere.
@jrwardle1
@jrwardle1 3 ай бұрын
1.5M per or let him walk. There’s lots of young guys who can do what he does for league minimum. Agree with Steve for the first time ever
@stephenkinsella4009
@stephenkinsella4009 4 ай бұрын
Nice knowing Domi!!!
@MildandLazyGuy
@MildandLazyGuy 4 ай бұрын
Sharks need players like this to protect the kids. Better weather. I think taxes are bad but I think better than Toronto? Welcome aboard boys!
@GlazerKing
@GlazerKing 3 ай бұрын
SJ is a dumpster city. Idk if you’ve been to the Bay Area of California recently but it’s literal garbage. I travel the bay areas for work sometimes and now it’s an automatic request for a different location cause the people literally do drugs in the street and rob you.
@martinklatt6937
@martinklatt6937 4 ай бұрын
Max and Bert earned contracts. Edmundson as well. There is just not enough money to go around!
@rossjackson2929
@rossjackson2929 3 ай бұрын
No more than 3 years for Domi for 3.3- 3.5 per year. 10% raise. Most people would be happy with that. No more nmc to any player. Domi as people commented has been with 7 teams. Hum. Weak defender. Scored only 9 goals and went 20 odd games without a goal. Took stupid penalties in playoffs. Don't overvalue players who are average. Same old same old with Leaf management😢
@TheBalls2thewalls
@TheBalls2thewalls 4 ай бұрын
But Steve you have to understand the culture of your club has made it this way. You overpaid the core, why ask everyone else to take team discounts? Does not work this way, just doesn't.
@g.u.6897
@g.u.6897 4 ай бұрын
Berrtuzi sucks during the regular season. And Domi, another light weight, is not what is needed here. Didn't Hyman and Kadri once play for the Leafs? Add Connor Brown to the mix. Marner should of never been paid so much. The figure skater is another light weight that can't engage at playoff time! Time for a big shake up! Light weights can't compete at playoff time!
@Smf7161
@Smf7161 4 ай бұрын
For the Leafs to have future playoff success, they need SIZE, TEAM TOUGHNESS, and SOLID GOALTENDING, period! Management has made many miscues, during the past 8 years of Leaf, playoff failures?
@hurtlocker6611
@hurtlocker6611 4 ай бұрын
all Dubas fault, small guys - shitty defence cause he paid 40 millino for 4 players, it dosent work, after next year they will only have 2 - 10+ mil players. nowing Treliving he will sign big ass Defenders in FREE AGENCY.
@markiv2942
@markiv2942 4 ай бұрын
What is it with you and size, is because you're so small?
@darrelldart4573
@darrelldart4573 4 ай бұрын
​@hurtlocker6611 he also signed those players prepandemic with the thought the cap was going up every year which would be more beneficial to a team so no I wouldn't put the blame on Dubas either he didn't know the world would shut down and the cap would be frozen it happens life goes on move on get over it
@hurtlocker6611
@hurtlocker6611 4 ай бұрын
@@darrelldart4573 thats true but he gave marner too much at the time
@JJ............................
@JJ............................ 3 ай бұрын
Ryan Hartman got 3 years at $4M. I'd say Hartman and Domi are equal in the value that they bring to the team. If he wanted $6M, I'd say the Leafs are better off at letting him walk and going after Zadorov.
@stevencooke6451
@stevencooke6451 4 ай бұрын
Offer 23 million for iive, no NMC, but build in some team performance-based bonuses.
@23plaster
@23plaster 4 ай бұрын
I'd happily pay 5.5-6 for domi, he was arguably one of the best players on the ice this series. Make him center for mathews and whoever and watch it work. Makes no sense to have your best scorer stuck in a face off instead of on a wing for a good 1-2 in the back of the net
@TheDjcorey19
@TheDjcorey19 3 ай бұрын
This is the same team that wouldn't pay Zack Hyman $5.5 mil to pay on the top line. Now you won't pay Domi to do the same thing. Nope. Only $10 mil plus for top liners. Stupid
@matthewtufford7145
@matthewtufford7145 4 ай бұрын
I'm surprised burtuzzi can stay on his skates long enough to cash those cheques 😂
@thepinkplushie
@thepinkplushie 4 ай бұрын
he likes the feel of the ice. He wants to swim on it. Flail on it. Can't keep a man from his dreams
@Naccer1513
@Naccer1513 4 ай бұрын
He’s brutal and not worth any amount! American hockey league player at best! The leafs think just because they pay more for a player, they’re going to be good and often and the best example is Bertuzzi completely being overpaid for more than 2/3 of the season!
@graemescott5282
@graemescott5282 3 ай бұрын
Zack Hyman signed for 7 years at 5.5 per season...no way Domi or Bertuzzi is worth a penny over 4
@MauriceVandenberg-c8j
@MauriceVandenberg-c8j 4 ай бұрын
I NEVER WANTED HYMAN TO LEAVE BUT JOHN THEVIRUS TOOK SOOO MUCH MONEY OUT , IN HIS CONTRACT ME ME ME FFS!
@stug5041
@stug5041 4 ай бұрын
They should be using 8 years to lower the cap - can always get creative 6 years from now if you want to cut ties
@duncanmac2195
@duncanmac2195 4 ай бұрын
Don't overspend! Bert isn't worth $5.5. Fix the backend and sign Domi cheap on term.
@canadianroot
@canadianroot 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. He was way overpaid this season. Domi isn't worth a penny more than 4 mil, and I wouldn't go past 3 years.
@alexmcwhirter3812
@alexmcwhirter3812 3 ай бұрын
Let's not forget about the Habs and them giving Domi 5.5mil for a one year wonder and then he's bounced from team to team. If Tre gives Domi that kind of money both should be shown the door. Bert just say goodbye. Free agency has a good crop of player's.
@tplomonte
@tplomonte 4 ай бұрын
4 years 3.5 anything over that no ... Thank you Marner Nylander Mathews Travares Thank you Brenda Shannahan Kyle Dubas ... Walking it back once again .. Toe Blake couldn't coach this team.
@Johnmk24
@Johnmk24 3 ай бұрын
It’s only natural that he make bank. He’s watched the big 4’s contracts. He’s worth 3.5 on a long term. 4-5 on a short term contract. Why should he take the hit? He can get money on the market.
@TheCokee47
@TheCokee47 4 ай бұрын
Well, to be honest, they did both lead the team in playoff points this year so.......
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