The bugged grab is because the reticle was technically placed on the end of the top entrance's path instead of the start of the bottom entrance's path. Necromancer can have a similar issue with it's zombie bloons
@alexandratsankova5825 Жыл бұрын
so it's basically not a bug as it won't move the balloon forwards in the track. always backwards. which kind of allows you to set the "put down" towards the end of the track and the owls/other birds won't shortcut balloons there, they will just attack faster as they won't need to transport the balloons (edit) ok after that sandbox testing i'm completely confused 😆
@NoraNoita Жыл бұрын
Yeah, double path maps were a bit weird, but it's should be fine if it's more towards the middle or further away from either end. EDIT: it's always so funny how many people don't seem to grab how these mechanics work.
@LoserHands Жыл бұрын
As far as I can tell, when you target a location the reticule will 'snap' without much vagrancy to a bespoke point on that path. That means you could learn what path a reticule is on if you use it often For example on basalt / the hex map, target the bottom middle point of the top hex where the bloons cross: if it's a little left-of-center the bird drops the bloons so they go right path, if it's a little to the right dropped bloons go left path instead. You can never place it dead-center like you could with a mortar/gatling (OCD gang rise up). I've found that for any place the reticule can be placed, two or three more can be placed that overlap it, it's a bit sparse.
@itsmesean201 Жыл бұрын
I was about to comment something simaler but it seems you beat my to it lol
@SunbleachedAngel Жыл бұрын
Yeah, took me a while to even understand what the reticle does
@DARKSWORDNINJA11 Жыл бұрын
This tower also has an infinite duration debuff to all youtubers- having to always grab that custom "ā" character for the Pouākai in every single video title it's featured in.
@AltraHapi Жыл бұрын
Might as well make a txt file just for that ā
@paulygood Жыл бұрын
The ā is just a but slightly longer so it's like saying aa
@djneonreaper4990 Жыл бұрын
Mobile users: *Pathetic* *ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā*
@yup5833 Жыл бұрын
Aāāāāā
@garethmetcalf2314 Жыл бұрын
ĀaÆâàáäÄAåãÆ
@ADudeWhoDo Жыл бұрын
It’s actually even better on maps where the path crosses over itself or the exit is right next to the entrance because then the pouākai barely has to move to send the balloons way back!
@avamaco3357 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's also good for multi-lane maps because it can move bloons between lanes. Also it's pretty bad on two-way maps because it can move bloons to the front instead of back. Ironically Polyphemus is one of these maps.
@jameslutes7478 Жыл бұрын
@@avamaco3357 it reverses the movement of the bloons that it brings to the end of the lane
@kageekao5524 Жыл бұрын
@jameslutes7478 no it doesnt, it just doesn't pick it up. It is possible for it to accidentally pick things up from the back of the track and move it to the front though, splash damage.
@cursedbeanboy142 Жыл бұрын
@@kageekao5524 Did you watch the video? The bird was regularly going out of its way to pick up bloons and take them to the start, reversing the movement. If you don't believe me, try it for yourself. I even tested it and it worked.
@kageekao5524 Жыл бұрын
@@cursedbeanboy142 weird double path mechanics
@prestoncole1862 Жыл бұрын
The beast handler feels like a reworked bloon chipper with slightly less broken mechanics (it’s still kind of insane though)
@pascalthecurator3368 Жыл бұрын
i think given that btd6 has harder bloons than btd5, most notably the bad, and that top path could (at least pre-nerf, haven't checked now) one shot a bad i'd almost say beast handler is more broken than chipper was. i can't think of a tower that has as much potential as top and bottom path beast handler has.
@ariaangela3455 Жыл бұрын
@@pascalthecurator3368 top path can still one shot but it needs the BAD to be under a certain amount of Max HP. This has been the behavior since release. The cut off point seems to be round 150 but may further testing
@nimajneb8897 Жыл бұрын
@@pascalthecurator3368 Fun fact, that "nerf" was actually a bug fix where top path dealt far more damage than intended. Apparently it never happened in their testing and didn't happen until they released the update. Otherwise, the mechanics are the same
@blueyandicy Жыл бұрын
@@pascalthecurator3368 Super monkey, Dart, Glaive, Ninja, Buccaneer, Engineer, Ace and soon to be wizard all have more potential lmao
@sidekic1109 Жыл бұрын
@@nimajneb8897 classic programming problem lol
@Noble1345 Жыл бұрын
The bottom path is actually strong on maps like workshop, since it can move Moabs to the beginning of the track, even on the extended part.
@jeremyplamondon7033 Жыл бұрын
cool
@LoserHands Жыл бұрын
Very cool ty
@meinman7591 Жыл бұрын
it's strong on basically all maps, it's a carry for midnight mansion chimps on max power
@ish_ Жыл бұрын
Carried me to black border infernal with 40k left over
@calebpayne1065 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if you noticed or not but the birds will actually attack bloons ahead of the reticle but once bloons pass that point it will then switch to picking them up and carrying them to that point. So the path can act as a dps if you move the reticle back from the edge of the map or move reticule up if you want to retrieve bloons.
@tannerray5014 Жыл бұрын
When you inevitably do the ultra boosted Beast Handler video, can you please do it as a 0-0-0? I would love to see how fast it gets with the whacking stick.
@FriedFries15 Жыл бұрын
Basically cave monkey with extra range
@consigliere8940 Жыл бұрын
Also i would like to see a perma brew boosted 0-0-0 beast handler, that would be interesting
@rockingthatrock666 Жыл бұрын
God boosted beast handler 0-0-0
@RAYOFDOOMALT1 Жыл бұрын
@@FriedFries15With no stun and less Pierce
@munkhjinmunkhbayar5952 Жыл бұрын
@@consigliere8940 Alch doesn't work on beast handlers
@afesfrytuykjhyj Жыл бұрын
I love watching ninja kiwi add things to their games that relate to NZ and it's cool that they added this using the traditional name instead of Haast's eagle. It makes me extremely happy.
@Zeldrake Жыл бұрын
It's super lovely that the Haast's Eagle is even in the game, even cooler that it's using the Maori name
@willlongley34 Жыл бұрын
I’m really glad the pouākai is getting the love it deserves
@rmlgaming2091 Жыл бұрын
Colonialism solved
@KnotXaklyRite Жыл бұрын
ISAB saying recticle instead of reticle was killin me lmao😂
@charl4037 Жыл бұрын
Was looking for this
@TVTray Жыл бұрын
@@charl4037 same
@Allahuma.sali.ala.muhammad. Жыл бұрын
Dude same lmao
@kuzu2627 Жыл бұрын
seriously i thought no one else noticed lmao
@ragtag0 Жыл бұрын
I was about to comment this, sounds like a mix between rectum and testicle
@jatsuki9408 Жыл бұрын
The Poūkai(If you didn’t know) was a massive NZ bird which hunted Moa, it was Mythological and probably based on legends about the Haast’s eagles which actually existed but when all the Moa died out, the haast’s eagle lost its prey and died out with it
@matejdvorak63 Жыл бұрын
The condor and the pouākai actually have bonus damage to MOABs (+11 and +110 resp.) and from what I've tested the bonus damage doesn't increase in beast power, that's why it increases the pouākai's damage by 40 (because it goes from 20 to 60 bloon damage).
@TaksytheGynoid Жыл бұрын
Ninja kiwi: we can't add bloonchipper, too hard to balance Ninja kiwi: heehoo beast handler go brrrrrr
@alexandratsankova5825 Жыл бұрын
I think one of the reasons so many things were leaking on top is (partly) because you had all the defence on the bottom and (partly) because there was no beast handler on the bottom, so the Pouākai couldn't see balloons in that range
@DatHypnoboi Жыл бұрын
The reticle likely defaults to thinking it's on the top path, making it think that every bloon hasn't reached the reticle yet, so it scratches instead of grabbing
@peterpumpkineater6928 Жыл бұрын
Which is good. If it would grab then the bird would bring the bloons to the exit making you loose in an instant
@kikinatorboi6641 Жыл бұрын
I prefer using druid farming or sniper farming when using bottom path beast handler because you can insane stall rounds and get multiple uses of them per round
@elloburger Жыл бұрын
RIP top path :(
@gotrude Жыл бұрын
Did it get nerfed?
@CryptoD2 Жыл бұрын
@Gotrude Yes It went from doing 220k dmg per bite on bloons it couldn't one shot, to 12k dmg...
@Arvl. Жыл бұрын
@@gotrude nerfed to the ground
@linkerspinkers Жыл бұрын
Yep
@huyen6784 Жыл бұрын
@@gotrude >15x nerf, it basically useless cuz it attack so slow while costing so much
@JustDoingReviews Жыл бұрын
4:15 it wasn’t picking up because the game saw it as you putting the bloon ahead of where it was because of the map
@PikaSmasha Жыл бұрын
Thank you ISAB for popping the bloons with birds of prey
@archangelamber666 Жыл бұрын
4:02 the grab mechanic is a little weird but from what I understand, the birds will only grab when it’s very close to or past the reticle. Because the ceramic wasn’t close to the end of its own path nor close to the bird’s drop reticle, it wasn’t grabbed Edit: Also the new map is weird as hell because it’s a double path
@spacexdemo8254 Жыл бұрын
The stalling ability is really good, because you can decide where to stall, so you can stall blooms in the range of DPS towers
@Sky.and.st4rs Жыл бұрын
8:02 what is bro doing to that bfb 💀
@jchamp00 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: on multiple lane maps you can actually move the Bloon to other lanes
@furiousDevs Жыл бұрын
13:57
@thesugareater8607 Жыл бұрын
15:50 bro that jump to 200+ fortifieds, I've been saying that bottom path is the most broken. No one believed me
@dbzmaster1213 Жыл бұрын
Didn't realize it does damage while carrying the bloons - pretty cool!
@richiecook5259 Жыл бұрын
I imagine birb would be good paired with short range high dps towers like bombs, rex, sharks, and the inferno ring? Havent used 5tier fire tack for a while forgot the name. But it is an interesting thought to opt out of range buffs in favor of raw power now what with that crisp birb hoarding all the bloons to them
@amphiapple7890 Жыл бұрын
There's a huge bug where all birds will only leave 1 child bloon if the land the final hit (ex. 1 moab left over after popping a BFB). This makes the Pouakai way stronger than it's supposed to be at handling massive dense rounds like 98 and 60 FZOMG insides (but doesn't change its power against DDTs)
@Flanktank2 Жыл бұрын
Thank you ISAB for helping the Bloons reach the exit.
@Maker0824 Жыл бұрын
4:58 Wait! it switched the lanes the bloons belonged to. That's kinda nuts and Isab didn't notice
@Maker0824 Жыл бұрын
(I am aware Issab did talk about it, I just didn't notice cause Isab was not very vocal about it for some reason)
@yoinkthewolf5981 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you put effort into the videos rather than the videos being rushed and cringey
@josephjoestar3631 Жыл бұрын
The birds doing very appropriate and totally not sketchy back and forth movements to the bloons
@KylixGtag Жыл бұрын
Polyphemus, Cyclops, eye pond, it’s all coming together.
@johanestebanramirezbarrios1411 Жыл бұрын
14:32 now you can troll your allies in coop XD
@phantomlp5285 Жыл бұрын
For those wondering about the eyes any difficulty except impoppable and chips for reasons starting on round 6 it’ll close on around 6 and start at 0 dollars And will close every 10 rounds and pricing going up every 500$ I could be wrong this is just from my testing
@leannefox2112 Жыл бұрын
The Pouakai on End of the Road is OP because it doesn't matter where the other handlers are, the bird can put any non-BAD back to the beginning, forcing them to go through your defense again, only to repeat again and again.
@misterionorman9764 Жыл бұрын
For the bird to grab a bloon it has to go past the reticle, that’s why when Bloons come from the upper track they don’t get grabbed, they didn’t go past the reticle, once they do go past the reticle the bird will grab them and drop them at the reticle, you can test this in sandbox and it’s easier to see with MOABs
@taryth. Жыл бұрын
I think the best maps for the Pouakai is where the end loops close to some part of the track further to the front. Like the map, End of the Road. Otherwise, the bird will spend way too much time chasing after loons.
@thejazmaster5292 Жыл бұрын
I think you would have been fine if you put the Puoākai on first and put the reticle on the far left of the map, where both paths cross at the same track length. You would have stunlocked everything on that spot
@arthena2130 Жыл бұрын
This tower is superb when the bloons start and end in the same place. Like resort for example. You remove any flying time and just make it reset bloons back to the start from picking a dropping them in the same place.
@jamieoconnor22 Жыл бұрын
I had a bug with the Condor on Candy Falls, where it would pick up moabs and bfbs, then fly them along the track at the condor's speed without damaging them, which is much faster than the blimp speed. I got an inconsistent way of stopping the bug once it started by either damaging the blimp or popping it. Died to it the first couple of times though
@Chocolate_cooki3 Жыл бұрын
It was not grabbing the ceramics because they were on the path 1 (top to bottom) and the reticle was placed at the end of said path, so it would have basically boosted the ceramics to the end of the path edit: nvm at 5:00 he shows that the grab can switch the path that the bloons take
@awsamar4324 Жыл бұрын
Thank you isab for something I don’t even know man
@lachlanB323 Жыл бұрын
What the hell was it doing with that BFB at 8:03 ? That is kinda OP!
@ken605610 ай бұрын
Kinda late but it was constantly grabbing the bfb and bringing it to the entrance
@lachlanB32310 ай бұрын
@@ken6056 No, I am talking about when it grabbed the BFB, brought it to the centre and flung it around in a circle lmao.
@Phoenix_9902 Жыл бұрын
the eye open lasts 10 rounds. increases price every 500$ regardless if you spend the money to keep it open, or if it is closed the whole game. also after 10 rounds it closes and doesnt open again unless you spend the money to re-open the eye
@95DreadLord Жыл бұрын
This somehow reminds me of watching a roomba chasing dirt on the floor. Semi satisfying
@LettuceGayming Жыл бұрын
7:46 bromigo is playing with his food
@Chargerburn Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being ISAB
@CaTastrophy427 Жыл бұрын
Love how you looked up the pronunciation for the map and the Pouākai, but not for "reticle"
@lawrenceskow1818 Жыл бұрын
The pauākai is much better than this shows, the key is to have it not move very far when picking up balloons so often less range is more effective this challenge shows it soloing the 90’s on this map- ZMEOUWW
@TimberJackEB Жыл бұрын
In warehouse, you could move the MOAB bloons onto the regular bloon track to significantly increase their travel time.
@aa01blue38 Жыл бұрын
For the testing at the end, I'm pretty sure the farther the ZOMGs get, the better the stalling power will be, since flight time only increases with the straight line distance but the path is curved. Imagine it just carrying the zomgs from the end to the entrance on logs, it could probably stall hundreds of zomgs at once
@pichucrazy6837 Жыл бұрын
Love your content mate, thx for everything
@WilliamPowersYT Жыл бұрын
if you think about it the bottom path of the beast handler is like a bloonchipper where it sucks in bloons then spits them back out of it does not do enough damage to pop it
@JDoggz Жыл бұрын
You wouldn't have so much of an issue with the 90s if you played on a single lane map
@creativefiend9704 Жыл бұрын
Pouākai + Blooncin is honestly an insane combo, give it a try :)
@bowserknight Жыл бұрын
You probably already know the answer but I'll try to explain it anyways: The Golden Eagle didn't pick up the cerams (or any other bloons) because the drop destination is technically further ahead when the bloons come from the top lane. And the birds only pick up bloons when the drop destination is further BEHIND them. You'll see that the bloons coming from the bottom do get picked up, but not the ones from the top. On maps like this one it's a little bit wonky, since the game seems to decide randomly which of the 2 lanes you've put the marker on.
@Shuck34 Жыл бұрын
Another bug is that if you move the marker ahead of the track and the track overlaps a previous point afterward, a bird can accidentally carry bloons farther down the track with the pierce
@aldenstromberg7273 Жыл бұрын
i like the bird the most i bet that the condor is great value for its cost like imagine that knockback on r98 also its far better to keep your birds unmerged until you have enough money for the fifth tier and even then it needs some help with cleanup i like an arcane spike, 012 ice, and a downdraft
@jackpettinger1370 Жыл бұрын
If you're on a map that finishes we're it starts like the new old Western map the you van place the retical right next to the entrance and it pretty much instantly places it from the end to the start
@mirkofloris9979 Жыл бұрын
This makes me realise a thing, i can go in coop, focus on a way, put an alchemist, and use the condor to bring the bloons and the Moab on my way stealing from the player 1
@nieveangeletti1271 Жыл бұрын
Who up handling they beast rn
@paulygood Жыл бұрын
Me
@abra_escaped Жыл бұрын
Bird is a pretty fun and effective stalling option, I wonder how it would do paired with close range/melee stuff like Tack and Sauda since you can make bloons go through their tiny but deadly range multiple times?
@shreksthongg Жыл бұрын
bird moving moabs right by some orcas seems pretty good
@jameslutes7478 Жыл бұрын
when i first tested the t5 beast handlers, I could already tell they were going to be nerfed to death because of how powerful they are, we should enjoy it while it lasts
@JimblesTheGreat Жыл бұрын
Yeah the pool closes every level that ends with 6. So 6, 16, 26 etc, hence the VI written there next to the pool. Luckily it doesn't close on every level in the 60's. At Lv 6 it costs $0 to open but increases $500 every time after.
@anyways2485 Жыл бұрын
The bird is like the type person who sets things up in the middle of the round to maximize efficiency
@sagittariusa2145 Жыл бұрын
Anywhere in the beast handler's range BEFORE the reticle, the bird will attack the bloons with melee. Anywhere AFTER the reticle, the bird will try to move the bloons back to the reticle.
@aggressivefox454 Жыл бұрын
I love combining the top path beast handler with the bottom path beast handler. You can literally have the birds feed the sharks moabs and have some anti ceramic towers later on in the track if needed
@karminevt Жыл бұрын
the bird seems like a very good tower to consider using in an actual game conpared to the way more expensive t-rex
@legidpuci9749 Жыл бұрын
I tested different targeting options and it seemed to only pick up Bloons when set to first. Strong and last are the same in it attacking the last bloon and close also only attacks, but here it actually attacks the closest bloon.
@kevinanders5570 Жыл бұрын
It only grabs bloons that pass the drop point so move the drop point further from entrance if you need the dmg
@Henry-gv5bj Жыл бұрын
Would be awesome if the paragon beast handler had a Chimera as its animal
@willj3402 Жыл бұрын
I’ve found a really good strat with this path with things like mortar, tech terror, and bloon trap. It’s a pretty obvious strat but it’s so fun to use.
@unfantasized2463 Жыл бұрын
this is definitely one of the towers of all of btd history.
@peterthanos2209 Жыл бұрын
I noticed on Quad, if a condor grabs a BFB or MOAB from one path and moves it to another, it still has to move all the way around again. Insane stalling for just 16k.
@omegadestroyer2360 Жыл бұрын
I noticed the bug on balance. Most tracks with multiple lanes that overlap cause the birds to never pick anything up
@Jc-go3mz Жыл бұрын
it wasn't moving them because they were coming from the top of the track. Moving them to the targeted location would move them further along the track, so its better that it doesn't move them at all in that scenario.
@gioknowsbest7 Жыл бұрын
This just goes to show that in later rounds there needs to be more cermaics due to how fast they go for any tower
@aspect6760 Жыл бұрын
Thank you ISAB for bird handling
@SnackGuy2Star Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for "Can You Beat Btd6 With Only Birds??" featuring Bird Handler, Summon Phoenix, (and maybe towers/heros with bird pets like Sauda, Pirate Brickell, Ninja, Heli, Farm, etc.) Maybe the bird pet towers can't be used for DPS and ONLY for utility like Sabo, Chinook, and Farming
@spacexdemo8254 Жыл бұрын
Wait, can the condor pick up DDTs? Because if yes, turning multi lane maps into single lane maps might actually be a good strategy.
@RobjectionableContent Жыл бұрын
Not by default, but if you give it lead popping power then yes.
@TYsdrawkcaB Жыл бұрын
fun fact: out of all the unbuffed t5s, pouākai actually lasts the longest solo.
@jasonmohamed7922 Жыл бұрын
One good idea could be how long can a Max buffed 0-0-0 beast handler survive
@theunknown4054 Жыл бұрын
wow, the bottom path bloonchipper seems pretty neat!
@jhosioja Жыл бұрын
Two megapops was pretty fun with the beast handler. I did the Orca. Plan was for megalodon, but I couldn't afford it, however the orca did pretty well. Crosspathing 4-0-2 was nice because the owl would many times save me from death, picking up leaks. Did it post nerf.
@GrimFrostyz Жыл бұрын
Isab the reason why it wasnt grabbing because it was targeting strong bloons so instead of grabbing it was trying to kill the balloons
@rydenkaye9735 Жыл бұрын
Love this guy seems super high level as far as tower use skill cap goes
@paulygood Жыл бұрын
Hi
@toucan4075 Жыл бұрын
Hi
@mightygreen3364 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if you are able to create an infinite loop in multiplayer, with two big birds always moving the bloons from the end of one path to the start of the other.
@wumpoooo Жыл бұрын
they do damage
@BreakGlassForMemes Жыл бұрын
@@wumpoooo there are regrows
@blakethesnake6686 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The horned owl can stall rounds indefinitely against regrow bloons
@vikavolt11 Жыл бұрын
This thing can solo round 95 on Midnight Mansion if you set it on close and put the reticle right before the track intersects itself
@okboomer4678 Жыл бұрын
I've had the same problem with it not moving the bloons even in one lane maps.
@peterpumpkineater6928 Жыл бұрын
It wasn’t a problem neither a bug. If the bird would pick bloons up and bring them to the exit, you would die very quickly and the bird would actually make you lose quicker. This is why the bird didn’t grab the bloons
@gabriellondon5882 Жыл бұрын
NK really turned the bloonchipper into a bird
@TouchGrass297 Жыл бұрын
Can you do all 3 beast handlers at once to see how long they can survive? Do it with and without buffs? I think they can make it very far, with the grab of the shark, the push back of the bird and the damage/ stun of the dinosaur
@spencerjohnson5627 Жыл бұрын
You had it set to drag back the balloons to the end of the track since there's 2 lanes on that map
@spencerjohnson5627 Жыл бұрын
Watching more of the video I see the later upgrades allow it to actually make the balloons switch lanes I assume it just comes with a higher level upgrade and the tier 2 just can't make the balloons switch lanes
@TaksytheGynoid Жыл бұрын
Paragon beast master: Terrasque tamer? The legendary beast destined to consume the world. Creates stomping Shockwave that stuns and does massive damage to bloons, drags blimps to their destruction with its massive tail, and throws all bloons it does not destroy back to a point of the master's choice. It can travel on land, through sea, and can fly if it has to.
@ThrownDice Жыл бұрын
Ok, as a suggestion to the Ninja Kiwi team, I'm writing this down before I forget. So as others have pointed out already, currently if you try to target an area with multiple overlapping tracks, you can't know which track or part of the track you're targeting before you place it down. What if, to fix this, the arrows you see when you start a map appear for the track you are targeting, but only for the track that you're targeting, so you know which one of the overlapping tracks you're targeting?
@wyronnachtjager Жыл бұрын
I used the birb to do the 2M pops on cubism, pretty easy actually
@goosle Жыл бұрын
I had a Pouakai and T-rex solo the BAD on scrapyard, so thats cool (max power)
@JustJonas Жыл бұрын
It created at infinite loop of 250 zomgs and was able to pop them all on town center with the default strength
@Dipped1234 Жыл бұрын
I just had a thought... The display for beast handler shows that T5 monkeys are obtainable as insta monkeys. But considering the whole point being that you need 4 other beast handlers, how would that work?
@עדיקמר-כ4ש Жыл бұрын
Great video. I think if you wanted to show how good it is as it is without distruptions you should have done it on a multiple lane map that every round uses only one lane
@lebryanthoward9416 Жыл бұрын
Hey ISAB you gotta redo the top path one after they fixed the glitch