The Metal Gear Game Everyone Forgot Exists

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Max Derrat

Max Derrat

Күн бұрын

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@Itoldajokeonce
@Itoldajokeonce 3 ай бұрын
If Portable Ops really is that small, there’s no reason it couldn’t be a “Chapter 1” to Peace Walker’s “Chapter 2” and put them in the same game.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 3 ай бұрын
nah
@PalladinPoker
@PalladinPoker 3 ай бұрын
PO, PW, and GZ-V are really a trilogy
@alwayslast8900
@alwayslast8900 3 ай бұрын
@@PalladinPokercontroversial but true
@Antonhannel
@Antonhannel 3 ай бұрын
Heall no. It's not that small to be a chapter of PW. Plus PO should be more established as it's own game and of the main reason for that not even the story but just the gameplay wise
@Freelancer837
@Freelancer837 2 ай бұрын
The reason it can't is because Portable Ops is good unlike Peace Walker
@scapeagoat2520
@scapeagoat2520 3 ай бұрын
They need to remake the original Metal Gear 1 and 2
@CurtisAnderson-w3g
@CurtisAnderson-w3g 3 ай бұрын
If they do so and bungle that with MGS1 that could serve as enough for a game.
@Brandon_Powell
@Brandon_Powell 3 ай бұрын
I would love a Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 remake with Kiefer Sutherland as Big Boss and David Hayter as Solid Snake.
@BKopps
@BKopps 3 ай бұрын
here's to hoping one day that MG + MG2 Solid Snake get that treatment.
@maxderrat
@maxderrat 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely 110% agree with you. I just have zero faith that that will be what Konami chooses to do next.
@jojosendmyregardsaquinodeo4056
@jojosendmyregardsaquinodeo4056 3 ай бұрын
msx with fox engine....it feels aweosome to dream
@groofay
@groofay 3 ай бұрын
"But that's not realistic!" "...Have you played any Metal Gear game?"
@NijiharaKaito0
@NijiharaKaito0 3 ай бұрын
Or... "Nanomachines, son!"
@Adjudicus
@Adjudicus 3 ай бұрын
Portable ops is way more realistic than peace walker
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 3 ай бұрын
​​@@AdjudicusAnd Peace walker is a better game with better story and better gameplay and better characters and more fun. Portable Ops was a side story prototype.
@Adjudicus
@Adjudicus 3 ай бұрын
@@phantombigboss8429 lmao no it's not, it turned big boss into a bumbling fool, had a really bad story that didn't fit with the series at all. Portable Ops was much closer to the mainline in terms of style and story
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 3 ай бұрын
​@@AdjudicusI believe you're the bumbling fool that failed to understand Big Boss's character. you probably never played any of the Mgs games I bet Poop is your first game that is sad. 😂
@mateusgreenwood1096
@mateusgreenwood1096 3 ай бұрын
You're the first person on youtube to not only remember portable ops but also to treat it with such appreciation.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 3 ай бұрын
game plays like ass is what I remember and dogshit story.
@KahosSaint
@KahosSaint 3 ай бұрын
That's just not true. There are plenty videos about this game.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 2 ай бұрын
@@KahosSaint Too bad most of them can't help but shit on MGS4, MGS peacewalker and MGS5 because their headcanon didn't come true.
@chewy99.
@chewy99. 4 күн бұрын
No there’s also PythonSelkan, the only KZbin channel praised by Hideo Kojima himself! They provided proof portable ops is canon.
@TaigaXsenpai
@TaigaXsenpai 3 ай бұрын
As for what happened to Gene money.... Lets remember that MSF was not completely without equipment at the start. They had weapons and helicopters. Also they still had money. Just because Zadornov gave them better hideout doesnt mean they were without equipment and resources
@goombah8771
@goombah8771 3 ай бұрын
Plus you know he somehow transforms that tiny rundown offshore plant into a massive military nation in a few months with somehow no money at all. In V you have to spend a lot of gmp to expand mother base, but in PW other struts just spout out suddenly with no money loss. Maybe that's what the army's heaven money is going towards.
@federicoricca2512
@federicoricca2512 3 ай бұрын
It's also implied right at the end that the money went to fund Foxhound, so that would explain where most of the money went
@fgdj2000
@fgdj2000 2 ай бұрын
My head canon was, that he added the money to Cipher/ Patriots and when he left, they of course kept the money.
@backtoklondike
@backtoklondike Ай бұрын
And Kaz does mention the base needed some repairs and cleaning up to do too. And the base was pretty big too, like it is small compared how it ends up being at the endgame but it wasn't like a shed out in the ocean. So the costs of the reconstructions would be a lot too.
@yukiutaware1064
@yukiutaware1064 3 ай бұрын
Speaking of forgotten... Metal Gear Acid 1 and 2
@subtledemisefox
@subtledemisefox 2 ай бұрын
I want to like those games, but the stealth aspect still eludes me for some reason. When I'm not getting absolutely obliterated during even the first few missions, I enjoyed playing them.
@clipsdelosmajes
@clipsdelosmajes 3 ай бұрын
I never forget. Literally install and setup the PSP emulator purely and solely for Portable Ops.
@dantesparda8524
@dantesparda8524 3 ай бұрын
Fr, I bought and modded a new PSP just to play portable ops with good controls. And peace walker, but I play that on xbox (PPSSPP controls are okay but not great on phone, and I don't wanna carry a controller with me everywhere I go)
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 3 ай бұрын
Thats a sad waste of time but okay. lmao
@clipsdelosmajes
@clipsdelosmajes 3 ай бұрын
@@phantombigboss8429??? Installing emulators is now sad?
@dantesparda8524
@dantesparda8524 3 ай бұрын
@@phantombigboss8429 your a real bastard, you know that?
@snake1mi
@snake1mi 3 ай бұрын
@@phantombigboss8429 Installing an emulator and playing your favorite rom with high res is sad and waste of time?
@aaronskuse2207
@aaronskuse2207 3 ай бұрын
I think a Halo MCC style of game would fit; a launcher that takes you to a menu, a list of games that can be updated over time with each remake getting added. It won’t matter how short some of the remakes are if the entire saga can be played within a single launcher. It would feel like a base game with larger titles getting supported with large expansions, not multiple small titles hodgepodged together.
@shawnjackson3764
@shawnjackson3764 3 ай бұрын
They could also add all variations of MGO, and possibly add a new one.
@Freelancer837
@Freelancer837 2 ай бұрын
No. MCC is literally a blueprint how not to do a collection of old games in every sense, as it's to this day still a broken pile of trash. We got lucky enough that they didn't try bundling any of Master Collection together more than just MG1 and MG2
@Bertaut
@Bertaut 3 ай бұрын
What's going on with Portable Ops? In the last 12 months there's been major retrospectives from Christian Cryers, thevoicebox, Chole, Gaming Pastime, Keiv Reviews Things, and now Max Derrat!!! It's awesome to see the game getting such coverage; such an unfairly forgotten gem. Yeah, the controls on the PSP made it borderline unplayable, but playing it on an emulator now, it plays pretty much identical to MGS3: Subsistence, and it looks damn good too.
@doclouis4236
@doclouis4236 3 ай бұрын
The team behind the Metal Gear Solid 1 remake could just expand upon on the original gameplay by adding more content and bigger areas to explore, almost like Resident Evil 4 remake, except while maintaining the feel of the original without changing the cutscenes like how Twin Snakes made it more bombastic.
@misterhoobomaster
@misterhoobomaster 3 ай бұрын
MGSV: TPP also confirms in a cassete tape that Portable Ops is canon. Ocelot talks about his big scene in Portable Ops with Big Boss.
@noctsickversus9632
@noctsickversus9632 3 ай бұрын
More like an easter egg
@misterhoobomaster
@misterhoobomaster 3 ай бұрын
@@noctsickversus9632 No it's not. It's literally a important lore detail.
@noctsickversus9632
@noctsickversus9632 3 ай бұрын
@@misterhoobomaster what about the whole kojima is not anymore with konami and the game itself isn't whar should 've been stuff? You know the whole principle of a dead saga. Cause metal gear iS ENDED with mgs4. Mgs5 should not even exists. Kojima is just a money maker AFTER mgs4
@misterhoobomaster
@misterhoobomaster 3 ай бұрын
@@noctsickversus9632 What does that have to do with anything I just said?
@hattoripool1533
@hattoripool1533 3 ай бұрын
@@noctsickversus9632that’s the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You Metal Gear fans love to make every excuse not to have Portable Ops as canon
@hunterhancock5221
@hunterhancock5221 3 ай бұрын
Peace Walker is my favorite. It has always been. it's just so replayable for me Love the boss fights, your own metal gear customization, and that you could play as someone you capture
@giordanogarduno9207
@giordanogarduno9207 2 ай бұрын
I liked it good enough but i coudnt finish it bc i didnt had friends to play with, nor wanted to grind the missions to unlock the fun stuff. I disliked so much that half the missions are filler to lock you out of progressing the development tree, let alone fighting the same tank 20 times. 20. Not even exagerating, maybe downplaying bc it could easily have been 25. I would have loved to see pw remade on Fox engine
@hunterhancock5221
@hunterhancock5221 2 ай бұрын
@giordanogarduno9207 if you are playing nonleathal with Stealth you can take out the troops and folten, then when there are no troops left the driver sticks his head out and can be put to sleep with a sleep dart for a win with getting to keep the tank and the people without having a hard fight, also engineers who drive have high stats for R&D so it helps get the gear you need
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 2 ай бұрын
@@giordanogarduno9207 Skill issue
@HUNK_TZ
@HUNK_TZ 3 ай бұрын
Maybe they could remake Peace Walker BUT add portable ops as flashback side missions (missions that you can get bonuses after playing them like snake tales)
@saschaberger3212
@saschaberger3212 3 ай бұрын
Remember: it's Konami. Don't fall for it again or there can't be any more excuses. Wait for the ratings, don't pre order. Be smart
@maxderrat
@maxderrat 3 ай бұрын
Preach.
@Slavic_Snake
@Slavic_Snake 3 ай бұрын
but in order for raitings to exist, people must buy and play it
@seansquiers6506
@seansquiers6506 3 ай бұрын
​@@Slavic_SnakeAnd you don't have to be one of those people
@jarrmann
@jarrmann 3 ай бұрын
People with extra$70 that needs to be spent on something right away*
@danielmisenhelter
@danielmisenhelter 3 ай бұрын
Not to mention all the KZbin channels that will get the game for free lol
@RhenishHelm
@RhenishHelm 3 ай бұрын
I would say the Acid games are even less well remembered than Portable Ops. I don't need remakes of them, but I would like to see Konami port them to Steam. Also, regarding the PO plot, the "Ghost" twist was originally quite silly, but in the context of MGSV, where XOF was cleaning up after Snake during MGS3, it's more plausible that Skull Face captured him before the destruction of Grozny Grad.
@joeking6972
@joeking6972 2 ай бұрын
Anyone complaining about lack of realism in an MGS game needs to get off the internet.
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 3 ай бұрын
I assumed Big Boss used the money to help fund the Patriots. My idea for an MPO remake was always to have a large open map that expands each existing map into a large sections of the peninsula. You'd eventually move to capturing bases to accommodate more troops, with a risk of enemy inspections afterwards exposing them and forcing you to head over and help defend the base from the enemy assault. And support troops actually appear on the map. Maybe you're about to infiltrate the hospital, so you head to a nearby ridge where your support unit is stationed to retrieve some supplies. And once you're down there, if they have a sniper among them, they can provide cover like Quiet in MGSV.
@BadassRaiden
@BadassRaiden 3 ай бұрын
I remember at the time PO came out I didnt have the money for it, but I did when PO+ came out. I bought it thinking it was OP AND a new online multiplayer feature. Turns out it was ONLY an online multiplayer game, and I was none too impressed.
@saintfayde4438
@saintfayde4438 3 ай бұрын
Damn, I thought this was gonna be about Acid
@EJaDav
@EJaDav 3 ай бұрын
Same lol
@mikemcmullen5006
@mikemcmullen5006 3 ай бұрын
I was expecting ghost babel. It's a pretty good game, except for that box maze. The game boy color was pretty limited though, so the prone button was the start button, something Ive never seen a game do before
@erickpadron155
@erickpadron155 3 ай бұрын
Me too
@grandmastercadillac9052
@grandmastercadillac9052 3 ай бұрын
@@mikemcmullen5006Ghost Babel is so underrated
@robij3475
@robij3475 3 ай бұрын
@@mikemcmullen5006 ghost babel was probably one of the best games of the gameboy color, and a very good mgs game. It was my first mgs game, and made me fall in love with the series.
@element1111
@element1111 3 ай бұрын
Always liked the simplistic ink-line comic style drawings that comprised Portable's cutscenes. Even made me try and get into concept art back in the day. Would be interesting to see what they could do with it in the modern day, that's for sure.
@Alfrays
@Alfrays 3 ай бұрын
I would love to play a remake of PO. The story could be tweaked a little, and expanded upon. I would add a hub in the middle of San Hieronimo, so that Snake and the other soldiers could actually feeroam the peninsula while completing main and side quests. I would add a creepy boss fight with Ursula in which the player should be forced to physically attack her to demage her, while she floats around, in a vertical arena, throwing stuff. I would put a countdown that forces the player to finish the story before the end of 1970, otherwise there is a cinematic game over(and after the game over, there would be a new game + with all the previous upgrades to speed up the new run). And then i would add a chapter covering the firsts official foxhound missions, where Snake saves Eva in Hanoi, and then splits from Cypher, escaping in south America. Playing as Foxhoud would allow to add an endless coop missions system similar to PO+.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 3 ай бұрын
A remake would be better than a shitty remaster of a bad game.
@Ivotas
@Ivotas 3 ай бұрын
While I wouldn't mind a Portable Ops remake, to me there's only one answer to what games need a remake the most: the two OG Metal Gear games. The events there are so pivotal to everything that's been happening in the series. I mean that's the games where Solid Snake actually fought Big Boss. IMO there is no higher rank match up in the entire series yet we are stuck with that dated encounter.There's a guy here on KZbin who's remaking the first game as an anime and he really manages quite well to a tense athmosphere worthy of the events. If you watch that and then watch what it actually refers to in the game, you cannot help but wish you got a remake from the ground up.
@frenchfriesfan2005
@frenchfriesfan2005 3 ай бұрын
It was so cool that if MGSV detected that you had Portable Ops save data in the PSP, it would automatically give you Invisible by Duran Duran instead of forcing you to unlock it in Chapter 3
@igodreamer7096
@igodreamer7096 3 ай бұрын
Justice for Portable Ops! ❤
@MegaSolidninja
@MegaSolidninja 3 ай бұрын
💯💯💯
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 3 ай бұрын
Poop the dumpster fire of a game.
@KahosSaint
@KahosSaint 3 ай бұрын
​@@phantombigboss8429For real, I would rather play Survive.
@igodreamer7096
@igodreamer7096 3 ай бұрын
@@phantombigboss8429 You are a sad person. I hope you find love, someday.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 2 ай бұрын
@@igodreamer7096 nothing sadder than liking Poop and eating it. lmao
@DjimonMoz
@DjimonMoz 25 күн бұрын
I have a slightly more elegant solution for the soldier extraction thing. The distance doesn't seem to be an issue. The problem is the speed in which Snake brings the bodies. So instead of dragging them off slowly like an idiot, just make Snake carry them on his shoulders like he does in MGSV, with no hit to his speed. Bam. Problem solved.
@SaltedMallows
@SaltedMallows 3 ай бұрын
This video needed to happen, now talk about PeaceWalker again for the people in the back that claim they love MGS3 but never played Peacewalker.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 3 ай бұрын
Instead they played that awful game Poop.
@stephenlanuto5993
@stephenlanuto5993 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, Max, for giving me the image of snake playing Operation while wearing oven mitts
@rohanthomas4134
@rohanthomas4134 2 ай бұрын
The big one is adopting the motion comic cuteness in to fully choreographed and rendered cinematics running in engine.
@Idiotboxxx
@Idiotboxxx 3 ай бұрын
I wanna see a Peace Walker Remake that has a MGS5 style map, multiplayer, and the side op missions be realized, observed, and result in the open world simulation. bring the story w vo and mocap too
@cleverman383
@cleverman383 2 ай бұрын
Just combine Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes, Phantom Pain into one epic remake.
@Slychosis.
@Slychosis. 3 ай бұрын
Why is Ghost Babel not on these lists if Portable Ops is as far as semi canonicity. Would Ghost Babel be a possibility of a remake? Truly the MGS game time forgot
@alexh2790
@alexh2790 3 ай бұрын
Ghost Babel is trickier because it ignores even MG2 and also has Snake acting like it's the first time he's meeting Mei Ling. That game isn't even trying to be line with the main series.
@ko873
@ko873 3 ай бұрын
In game-story, Ghost Label is the "Shadow Moses VR" that Raiden did before being approved to do the mission of MGS2.
@MegaSolidninja
@MegaSolidninja 3 ай бұрын
​@@ko873mental gymnastics
@mikemcmullen5006
@mikemcmullen5006 3 ай бұрын
Because its an alternative version of snake, it's like acid, neither of them are cannon and would confuse new fans that ∆ will bring in
@alexh2790
@alexh2790 3 ай бұрын
@ko873 I get what you're trying to say given the easter egg in the game, but clearly that's not the case. Unless Raiden is ignorant enough to belive Alaska is tropical 😋
@GreenWhiteRedBrown8967
@GreenWhiteRedBrown8967 2 ай бұрын
In response to chapter 5, before or after knocking out an enemy, pause the game and see the closest hiding spots. Drag the character next to the nearest hiding spot, change characters, then call it in using the second character. Multiple soldiers can be dragged next to the same spot and be called in at the same time. About the hiding spots, sometimes it matters if you are indoors or outdoors. I remember at on the 1st level(the prison), if you are on the catwalk there is one hiding spot, but you enter the building 3 steps away that hiding spot disappears and there are others available. Be careful to not leave a body on top of the hiding spot because it becomes unusable so move the body a little. Also, this should be done after the recruitment codec number is unlocked. Unlocking the codec number is finicky. If an enemy is is already in right radius of the hiding character but the codec number isn't unlocked yet, the enemy must be dragged out and then into the radius for the event to trigger and to unlock the number. This game does not properly teach how good the recruitment can be and I think it took a bit of experimentation for me to find this for myself. Out of the 4 guides on Gamefaqs, only katastrophe had this tip. After playing and finishing this game last year, I couldn't find one KZbin guide or reviewer who knew about this. Honestly, I am laughing a little bit at 9:50 because I know precisely which corner in that building you could have dragged that enemy to, for some reason this information seems to be rare or at least I could barely find it.
@EthanWinters1987
@EthanWinters1987 2 ай бұрын
The quick-dive!!!! The quick-dive still does this somersault before going prone!!!!
@SpaceCowboyXCII
@SpaceCowboyXCII 2 ай бұрын
This and Metal Gear Ac!d were my childhood! Countless nights staying up way too late on a school night LOL
@bluekashus2499
@bluekashus2499 3 ай бұрын
As an oldhead MGS fan, I never forgot about this game, I just couldn't justify buying a handheld game system for just one game. Money was tight in those days and I spent most of my money purchasing the next Play Station or building a new PC.
@ismaill-0819
@ismaill-0819 3 ай бұрын
Calling to the Night is one of the best MGS soundtrack 🤌
@scar3crow_art
@scar3crow_art 3 ай бұрын
Loved Portable Ops. Was the first game I got with my PSP for Christmas the year it came out. If I were Konami, since they're pumping a lot of resources into the MGS 3 remake, I'd just reuse everything I could from it, and remake Portable Ops AND Peace Walker, and release them together. Either as a package, or on a single disc, could even make a few one off missions in-between to explain how Big Boss got from one to the other. Would be nice to have closure on were Campbell and Grey Fox went after the events of Portable Ops. Plus, they could always reuse that gorgeous Ashley Wood art that was used for the cutscenes of both games. Side note: If Campbell and Grey Fox whereabouts where mentioned in Peace Walker, forgive me. It's been about a decade and some change since I've played either game.
@0oSOTARKo0
@0oSOTARKo0 3 ай бұрын
Fireman’s carry from TPP, would be an easy fix for dragging. You’d still have to carry them to a truck but it would be faster and you could still use one handed weapons.
@DirtMaguirk
@DirtMaguirk 3 ай бұрын
I honestly want a game or series focusing on Gray Fox starting from the beginning...adoption of Naomi, the affair with Natasha/Gustava, the corruption during MG1/MG2, the genome expirements, MGS1.
@adamquenano8563
@adamquenano8563 3 ай бұрын
They also need to make an MGS game focused on the war between Big boss and Zero that was mentioned from mgs4
@theengineer9910
@theengineer9910 3 ай бұрын
thats what phantom pain should have been.
@adamquenano8563
@adamquenano8563 3 ай бұрын
@@theengineer9910 Yep. Now with Kojima gone i don’t know who else could do that storyline.
@Pablojunior2006
@Pablojunior2006 3 ай бұрын
Maybe a game about snake and raiden going after the patriots between 2 and 4 could be nice too
@theengineer9910
@theengineer9910 3 ай бұрын
@@Pablojunior2006 ya that could explain why raiden has to go into hiding
@adamfrost8313
@adamfrost8313 3 ай бұрын
​@@theengineer9910the Real MGS 5😢
@ForceWave-1139
@ForceWave-1139 Ай бұрын
22:20 Max, I really respect you and your previous work, and how you deep dive into the stories of various media, especially Kojima games (where lines of dialogue can have double meanings in both a narrative and meta sense). That’s why I think it’s kinda bizarre that you take the “leave all that crap behind” line at complete face value. Like, Kojima wrote that line at the very start of a game that would go on to completely disregard the events of “all that crap in San Heironymo.” (as Ravi Singh showed in his editorial on the subject, “Leaving All That Crap in San Heironymo Behind”) While it’s true that, circa MGS4, Kojima initially intended MPO to be canon (hence why it’s listed among other canon games in that exposition cutscene with Naomi you showed), it’s become pretty obvious since PW that he’s been trying to “leave all that crap in San Heironymo behind.” And since MGS4 only references MPO in a few cutscene stills, that made it an easy game to disregard. It’s not that much different from how the weapon description for the Five-SeveN references the non-canon Ghost Babel. When asked if MPO is still canon, Kojima initially said that the main story is canon, but some of the details aren’t. However, he immediately backtracked, and said, rather than saying if it’s canon or not, he instead emphasized that, inside him, he divides “A Hideo Kojima Games” from games he only produced. Having said all of that, the Master Book included in the Master Collection (released after Konami kicked Kojima out of his own creation) does include the events of MPO in the timeline, and explicitly says that the game’s events connects to the series canon. So MPO fans can find solace in the fact that Metal Gear’s corporate IP overlords have decreed that they regard the game as canon. I just wish more people tried to understand Kojima’s actual POV.
@SchmuckAmok
@SchmuckAmok 3 ай бұрын
Portable Ops is an excellent buffer title between MGS3 and Peace Walker, both in terms of gameplay and story. It’s a nice blend of both, where the leap from 3 to PW without PO can be jarring
@adamquenano8563
@adamquenano8563 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely, I hope it appears in volume 2 of the collection similar to how Peace Walker was put on the ps3.
@maxkoob
@maxkoob 2 ай бұрын
the MGS series seems to split into two quadrologies. The first Quadrology is all about Big Boss. MGS3: SNAKE EATER MGS: PORTABLE OPS MGS: PEACE WALKER MGSV: GZ / TPP and the second is about Solid Snake MG1 / MG2: SOLID SNAKE METAL GEAR SOLID MGS2: SONS OF LIBERTY MGS4: GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS Edit: Technically Raiden has his own Duology because he's in most of MGS2 and all of MGRR
@Swade1985
@Swade1985 3 ай бұрын
I still like to think Twin snakes and Bable are cannon by way of being VR training missions that Raiden did prior to metal gear 2 and the Vr program was designed by otakan
@Dilsoc
@Dilsoc 2 ай бұрын
You got me way tooooo excited with this video, we need Konami to absolutely do ALL of this
@abdelali9279
@abdelali9279 2 ай бұрын
I believe Portable Ops is canon, but the issue that Kojima has it in shaky grounds, is because IMO, he saw what he liked and built on top of it, but while making Peace Walker he also didn't feel constrained by it that is why there are some plot holes, but I can believe that is something that some retcons can easily fix, hell even Gene's speech power can be explained as a parasitic power.
@popatsot1
@popatsot1 3 ай бұрын
PO was a great bridge to getting to Peace Walker. Including how BB met Grey Fox
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 3 ай бұрын
Never happened that way.
@popatsot1
@popatsot1 3 ай бұрын
@@phantombigboss8429 Errr. Wasn't Null Grey Fox?
@CodeRed001
@CodeRed001 3 ай бұрын
All I want is a remake of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. Those games are so important to everything and I think they have the potential to be amazing. I doubt it will ever happen or if it did it probably won't be done well since Kojima isn't on board. It would be difficult.
@kwelan
@kwelan 3 ай бұрын
The story in portable ops should be told in a series of flashback style side ops in the peacewalker remake.
@aureateseigneur5317
@aureateseigneur5317 3 ай бұрын
Ooooor just remake Metal Gear 1&2. They need it more then any other game. It let's player be Solid Snake again, something they've been wanting for decades, and brings those two games up to par with the rest. Metal Gear 1&2.
@kenalexbeyeler5282
@kenalexbeyeler5282 3 ай бұрын
Reference - The Rock witch Kojima got the the idea for MGS from... :)
@Discriminator
@Discriminator 2 ай бұрын
23:06 Bruh, The Rock is basically MGS the movie.
@Flynnsdaflynner
@Flynnsdaflynner 3 ай бұрын
I know they’ll never do it but I want them to bring back the og theme form portable ops, or at least try to do a new version with the current theme
@grandmastercadillac9052
@grandmastercadillac9052 3 ай бұрын
Metal Gear 1 and 2 really ought to be the next remakes. There is so much background information about the series to expand upon there. Plus let’s be honest most Metal gear fans only know the general story of those games rather than have actually played them. It would also flow nicely with the MGS3 remake by being a more straight up stealth game rather than reintroducing the whole recruitment mechanic. We haven’t had a Metal Gear game starring Solid Snake since 2008 so this would be the perfect way to reestablish that character as the poster child of the franchise. Plus I really need to see a 4K Dirty Duck lol
@linusenglishtips7523
@linusenglishtips7523 3 ай бұрын
This might be possible, Vol 2 has no files for Portable Ops, so by leaving it out they might want to cash in on redoing an unavailable and old game
@daBIGcheesefries
@daBIGcheesefries 3 ай бұрын
Portable Ops is entirely subjective in terms of canon and there’s arguments to be made for and against it. Personally, I don’t think it is because the actual events from the storyline are never mentioned. MGS4 used some imagery in more of an advertisement than a plot point and PW just reused the flashback from Gene’s memory of The Boss being betrayed without his dialogue.
@mdilelio
@mdilelio 3 ай бұрын
I believe that portable ops describes the transformation of Naked Snake into Big Boss well more than titles like peace walker or V some scenes such as the fight with chunningam ("I will not live my life like the boss did") or the final scene at the airport with the greeting to the Soviet soldiers, are the essence of Big Boss for me, Portable Ops is the real missing link between mgs3 and mg
@plugshirt1762
@plugshirt1762 3 ай бұрын
It’s good for showing his leadership abilities as big boss but peacewalker was a lot better about showing his moral corruption as it showed him becoming more and more corrupt. He literally stockpiles nukes and uses child soldiers by the end of it and people miss that he has became a villain so subtly
@matt2centerback
@matt2centerback 3 ай бұрын
>Unify Portable Ops and PO+ into a single game, with PO+'s soldier progression linked to the base game's >add cross-progression that lets you carry over PO/PO+ soldiers into Peace Walker >unrelated to Portable Ops but ADD PROPER CO-OP INTO MGSV, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. KONAMI, YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO MAKE NEW ASSETS, JUST HAVE THE ENEMIES SCALE IN NUMBER/EQUIPMENT/BOTH ACCORDING TO THE DIFFICULTY OF THE MISSION CHOSEN AND THE PLAYER COUNT. AN INGAME JUSTIFICATION IS ALREADY BUILT-IN, YOU COULD LITERALLY JUST HAVE US PLAY AS THE MOTHER BASE SOLDIERS VENOM SNAKE DEPLOYS FROM HIS iDROID TO SABOTAGE SUPPLY LINES.
@XDWX
@XDWX 2 ай бұрын
Genes story is one of the better character stories in the MG series. I really enjoyed Gray Fox's story too.
@lap87
@lap87 2 ай бұрын
Portable Ops was one of the best games i ever bought for my psp back in the days, so many battery cycles spent on that game xD
@chewy99.
@chewy99. 4 күн бұрын
Yea I’ve been thinking they should do portable ops next, hopefully with real cutscenes (at least as an option)! I played a little of it and it’s pretty good. It’s confirmed canon by mgsv as it references the events of the game when ocelot says big boss got half of the legacy and ocelot got the second half.
@miguelcamacho4595
@miguelcamacho4595 3 ай бұрын
Was the first one in the series I played, and including PW, they’re my favorites.
@Davlavi
@Davlavi 2 ай бұрын
Informative as always.
@cristianr7278
@cristianr7278 3 ай бұрын
23:35 You wanna see all the codec calls have voice acting added in? From what I've heard, they're not doing any voice acting for this game. All the voice acting is gonnna be pulled from the original game
@Onimusashi85
@Onimusashi85 3 ай бұрын
The kidnap system in this game would be greatly improved with the over the shoulder carry technique in Metal Gear Solid V.
@RonnieMyers777
@RonnieMyers777 3 ай бұрын
MGSV should have had the merc missions fleshed out like Peace Walker.
@lexradu
@lexradu 3 ай бұрын
10:54 i believe there's a middle ground to be found here, and that is how you'd rescue POWs in Ground Zeroes, by carrying them on your back while still being able to run and shoot with your handgun. It could also serve as a "bridge" mechanic between MGS Delta (picking up the bodies also on your back, but just to hide them) and a possible Peace Walker Remake (making the fulton feel like an earned natural evolution mechanic, bringing this trilogy full circle back to Phantom Pain)
@baddragonite
@baddragonite 3 ай бұрын
Imagine they remake the original Metal Gear 1 and 2 but with the modern games' engine (Not Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear)
@requiem-fractos
@requiem-fractos 3 ай бұрын
Bro forgot about Johnny's ability to drag bodies faster
@DeathSocrates
@DeathSocrates 3 ай бұрын
Fireman carry would be more appropriate, given you can still walk relatively fast and shoot if you need to. No need to add a helicopter and fulton to the lore.
@domuk7844
@domuk7844 3 ай бұрын
The recruited soldiers keeping their uniforms made this better than the other recruit centric games
@cleverman383
@cleverman383 2 ай бұрын
Imagine if we got to name all the soldiers we recruit.
@jerichogm14
@jerichogm14 3 ай бұрын
Haven't watched your videos for a while, Max. You seem a lot livelier than your previous videos and I like it. The "Zeus' butthole" reference was hilarious. 😂 That took me a minute to remember where it was from, tho I knew it was Nick Cage. Didn't play Portable Ops but may check it out bec of the video. Keep up the great work!
@BayaRae
@BayaRae 3 ай бұрын
I'd prefer they combine Portal Ops with Peace Walker since they're basically the same story and both a prelude to MGS5. (Plus neither is strong enough to be standalone stories.)
@danielbeckman6742
@danielbeckman6742 3 ай бұрын
Like the tanker and plant missions of mgs2, or GZ and tpp in mgsv
@BayaRae
@BayaRae 3 ай бұрын
No, what I mean is combine the stories entirely in a remake. (As well as Ground Zeroes, now that I think about it.)
@kami_97
@kami_97 3 ай бұрын
Like make a single game where PO is chapter one and PW chapter two or smth?
@BayaRae
@BayaRae 3 ай бұрын
No, combine the stories entirely. You can do the same with Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2.
@cleverman383
@cleverman383 2 ай бұрын
At that point you should also combine Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain
@TheNomade5
@TheNomade5 3 ай бұрын
Portable Ops has always been one of my favorite MGS games story wise! There's a lot of really powerful scenes that I remember to this day.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 3 ай бұрын
hmm I don't remember nothing important at all other than massive plot holes.
@liquidsnake5881
@liquidsnake5881 2 ай бұрын
​@@phantombigboss8429I dont remember nothing about MGSV except a fake big boss beta cuckold keeping his mouth still while being told what to do by Ocelot and Miller. You know nothing about a good Metal Gear game or writing that doesnt cater to your lolicon fetishes.
@thefearofg0ds758
@thefearofg0ds758 3 ай бұрын
I think people choose to ignore Portable Ops because despite it being a pretty good game because it does a fair bit of narrative damage to the lore. Needlessly retconning Gray Fox and then turning Outer Heaven, an integral part of Big Boss' character, from his dream that he devoted a large portion of his life to just an idea he stole from some guy named "Gene" and changed the name from......🤦🏿‍♂"Army's Heaven" to Outer Heaven. And a random psychic child thrown in good measure. Just a lot of really really....really stupid retcons for what otherwise was a pretty good story. I like the stuff with Python, Roy, and Cunningham was honestly a really cool villain.
@nat_sukashii
@nat_sukashii 3 ай бұрын
Oh god that was the MGS I have on PSP, I never got through the second or third mission as I was TERRIFIED of being chased. Maybe a new Mother Base is calling me now...
@Vashkey
@Vashkey 3 ай бұрын
Youre nuts if you think Portable Ops or even Peace Walker are getting remakes on the scale of MGS3. Thatd be like if Capcom decided to do a from the ground up remake of Resident Evil Revelations instead of Resident Evil 4. The whole point of this big ambitious remakea is to make bank on recognizable classics. Best you can hope for is an enhanced emulation in a Master Collection Vol 2
@Katsuhicon
@Katsuhicon 2 ай бұрын
As someone who was related to the project, the MGS UE 4 Remake - Shadow Moses footage you used is a re-upload, the original footage was uploaded to iRam Gamer. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYjGY3qEqaeoqLs
@dennisneculcea437
@dennisneculcea437 2 ай бұрын
The fact that Konami decided to remake the 3rd chapter first, makes me think they want to remake the whole series chronologically
@whateverwhatever4026
@whateverwhatever4026 3 ай бұрын
Portable Ops has the first chronological appearance of Frank Jeagar, da cyborg ninja. And my favorite character. We NEED Portable Ops remake. Null is a necessity. Expand on it and make it sooo much better. The skeleton is there. It could be easily done. Konami just isn't capable unfortunately. They'll turn it into a gambling machine somehow...
@AndrewCARNBORN
@AndrewCARNBORN 3 ай бұрын
I was expecting an actual rare game of sorts, but it's just Portable Ops LMAO
@sundrynow766
@sundrynow766 3 ай бұрын
One thing I would add to these inconsistencies at 22:40 - 23:20, which is not exactly inconsistencies, but I genuinely dislike the Idea of Big Boss had been prophesied, that his sons will save the world. I could rant about it for long, but I try keep it short. It takes away the impact of Solid Snake's struggle with Genes, that he overcomes during the Shadow Moses. This plot point alone, is the ultimate reason of why I'm not considering Portable Ops being canon. If this game is going to be remade to be a 100% canon, remove this prophecy sh!t out of it. Oh, and don't revive Sokolov... Sorry for my imperfect English, since it's not my native language.
@asnierkishcowboy
@asnierkishcowboy 3 ай бұрын
I want a MGS 4 remake with MGS TPP controls, the latest graphics and MGS online added again.
@michaelmiller4105
@michaelmiller4105 3 ай бұрын
The reason there’s no Fulton system is because portable ops came out in 2006 and peace walker came 4 years later so Kojima hadn’t come up with the idea yet.
@unknownduck4927
@unknownduck4927 3 ай бұрын
An MG1 and MG2 remake with a new art style and voice acting would be fantastic.
@Counselor-yj8hk
@Counselor-yj8hk 3 ай бұрын
portable ops and portable ops plus were great games that were sadly over-shadowed by Peace Walker. I didn't really like Peace Walker though because it was closer to MGS4 gameplay wise than MGS2/MGS3.
@pluckee
@pluckee 3 ай бұрын
Since Portable Ops was basically made from MGS3's engine, has far less cutscenes than the mainline entires and is made of levels that are similar in size and length to VR missions, maybe it could work as some sort of DLC story to Delta? I might be giving Konami too much credit though as even if it could work as DLC they'd probably rather sell it as its own game at full price just like Ground Zeroes.
@pout1385
@pout1385 3 ай бұрын
I would love a video of you talking about Madoka Magica, this animes series has several of the themes that you cover on your channel. Amazing video as always man.👍👍👍
@UnderTheSkin13
@UnderTheSkin13 3 ай бұрын
They explained it. Sokolov used a fake death pill in his tooth just like snake before the 1.21 gigawatts did him in and revived later.
@phantombigboss8429
@phantombigboss8429 3 ай бұрын
That's Non-canon.
@Twy87
@Twy87 3 ай бұрын
On the topic of a 'Game Everyone Forgot Exists', would you ever consider looking at the ending speech in 'Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs' (2013) in relation to 'most profound' moments in videogames?
@maxderrat
@maxderrat 3 ай бұрын
I think it will happen at some point. Just not sure when.
@RaidenTheRipper950
@RaidenTheRipper950 3 ай бұрын
Portable Ops MUST be the next remake. Email them if you have to.
@aroccoification
@aroccoification 3 ай бұрын
That makes no sense... Why would they remake one of the lowest selling metal gears that isn't made by kojima or even cannon Great video but if you genuinely think they'd even consider remaking this game you're confused
@motakyatto3857
@motakyatto3857 2 ай бұрын
Metal Gear Solid Delta: Remake: HD Remaster: Big Boss Edition
@ismaill-0819
@ismaill-0819 3 ай бұрын
Seeing the notification Me: Let me guess, Portable Ops?
@IamMikeSince_94
@IamMikeSince_94 3 ай бұрын
I wpuldnt get my hopes up for a PO remake. If memory serves, the booklet included with the master collection labels PO as a "spinoff" in the timeline. This leads me to believe if they do remake in chronological order they will most likely skip it. Breaks my heart too because I had so many great memories playing PO and + with friends, share play & getting tranq'd online and "humped" by enemies picking up my body and going up against the wall and wiggling the analog stick 😂
@stevefrench3397
@stevefrench3397 2 ай бұрын
Enjoying the more animated voice acting. Love the MSG content, always have
@GameBoyPL1991
@GameBoyPL1991 3 ай бұрын
The problem with "is it canon or not" is that Konami just doesn't get to decide that without Kojima.
@sebastiansanhueza9601
@sebastiansanhueza9601 3 ай бұрын
The canon issue is just childish fandom. Does it fundamentally contradict the main games? No? It fits then. These questions have come about only because some fans take themselves to be some sort of Kojima purists and feel that they "owe" him to acknowledge or reject certain games. One of the many problems with this is that nobody could acknowledge any MG game after Kojima passes away.
@cookie.2118
@cookie.2118 3 ай бұрын
Portable Ops is Canon, I'm pretty sure Kojima made future metal gear games with Portable Ops story in mind and it heavily reference in the future games. That should make Portable Ops Canon but for some reason, Kojima says it isn't because he didn't make it? But he basically stolen a lot from it.
@Pablojunior2006
@Pablojunior2006 3 ай бұрын
@@sebastiansanhueza9601portable ops does contradict peace walker
@sebastiansanhueza9601
@sebastiansanhueza9601 3 ай бұрын
@@cookie.2118 Right! Besides this, it never quite made sense to me that Snake went from idealist rookie to leader of a rogue nation only because some slimy government dude was a pain in the ass throughout Peace Walker - after all, he still fights for America in the PW showdown. It makes so much more sense if he's betrayed by the White House first (MGS3), then by the FBI (PO), and finally by the CIA (PW). Pretty much the whole deep state tries to screw him over. That being the case, sure, bring on Outer Heaven.
@sebastiansanhueza9601
@sebastiansanhueza9601 3 ай бұрын
@@Pablojunior2006 How? And please mention a substantive way in which contradict each other, not something along the lines of: this character gaves this small detail that doesn't match with this other tiny thing this other charavmcter said in this other game. I'm talking about a MG1-MG2 type of contradiction (before MGSV solved that, that is).
@shayoko6
@shayoko6 3 ай бұрын
give us Vol 2 of the collection! MGS4, portable ops, Acid and peace walker!
@Lancaster22
@Lancaster22 3 ай бұрын
The problem with an MSG1 remake is that it’s been done and it didn’t work. Twin Snakes seemed exciting but adding MGS2 control scheme and camera broke the game and made it easy. Konami will not build it from the ground up. That’s actually my biggest concern with MSG delta. It looks incredible but there needs to be modern quality of life updates rather than just a re-skin.
@Anon-gq4xw
@Anon-gq4xw 2 ай бұрын
Honestly, they did bring up MGO recently on a production episode. They could remake Portable Ops as the designated "Metal Gear Online Saga" game. It still will have the campaign and essentially just with a modern coat of paint or even make it a Peace Walker lite. But instead of slapping MGO on every new game, you could have PO be the online game.
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