RACE and REVENGE - A Metal Gear Solid 5 Retrospective

[@envysmith6832]

Looking back at it, Skullface was the deepest MGS antagonist. He was both cartoonish (agent of chaos who wants to justify anarchy) and non-cartoonish (the torture of chico, the rape of paz, the disregard for the consequences of war to further his power). Him being written as someone whose interpretation of the Boss' will is based on the hatred of the language of the most successful colonizers is both brilliant and brave on Kojima's part as an artist who pushes message across through his medium of choice. MGSV wasn't perfect but it really pushed all the boundaries. It saddens me that Konami couldn't see how much of the groundwork Kojima did (his refinements in direction in writing, the impressive power of the FOX engine) could have made Konami into a pioneer in the upcoming future of video games. It saddens me that all of us fans deal with this phantom pain That being said...Death Stranding next, Max? :D

[@icravedeath.1200]

Given the rumours, they seem to be changing their tune a little bit. (Emphasis on a little bit).

[@raja7775]

@@icravedeath.1200 What rumours

[@ianwallace6344]

@@raja7775 a korean rating board recently just rated a game from a certain world-beloved franchise...

[@TheLaughing_Dragon]

I think all of the shit that happened around this game, it was supposed to happen. Like it's a closely guarded secret, and making it set off ALL alarms. However, if you haven't figured it out for yourself? Luckily we all know and sought the guidance of an obsessive autistic philosophical investigator named Max Derrat.

[@envysmith6832]

@@TheLaughing_Dragon if you wanna dive even deeper - like references to conflict during the 70s and 80s deeper - go watch the video essays from Futurasound Productions/Jorin Lee :D

[@SaberRexZealot]

Playing through it again, I really appreciate how dark the tone is. There’s a strong feeling of impending doom over the whole story, and pretty much every character will be dead by the end of the saga - the real tragedy though is that many won’t know the truth, like the full extent of Skull Face’s duplicity, Zero being unable to reconcile his mistakes, and the fact that half of Big Boss’ legend isn’t even his own. I think it’s a good story when you step away from it.

[@KNGDDDE]

That's how I felt. I played thru it raw, didn't see anything about it until after... I felt like I didn't even start playing the game until chapter 2, where all the plot holes and lies started making sense. But when you got to the mirror and midre starts playing, the tears came instantly. I has believed the masked man was a figment of our imagination like ocelot said, that subversion being overturned 130 hrs later to suppling us, the fans as the real legend of big boss, is priceless. This game was underated, players weren't ready for a game series that took itself so seriously and delivered in ways we can't even imagine. I always hoped tho that thered be a 6 where the character big boss comes back to defeat us as venom, to save us from the unending war we wage to keep him anonymous.

[@lindthechaoticheretic8708]

Completely unrelated question. What ever happened to Solid Snake's dogs? He says he's a musher, then gets roped into MGS1, and then we never hear about them.

[@ricardomiles2957]

Gave them away probably

[@jacksexton8284]

Yeah most likely gave them to another musher.

[@richardstierwalt2874]

We don't really know mush about the details

[@abyss9316]

From what I remember Campbell says they will be looked after

[@maroontide31]

They became diamond dogs hahahaha I’m funny

[@Mr-Rinn]

A lot of people were disappointed that they didn’t see Big Boss’ big fall. But Venom Snake’s very existence was that fall. He allowed Venom Snake to be used as his tool and puppet, not unlike how the Government used the Boss in such a way that Big Boss despised. He could’ve told Venom the truth as soon as they’d escaped and let him choose whether to willingly pretend to be Big Boss but he left it until what was probably the last possible moment to be straight with him, and even then he didn’t really give the medic a choice to stop.

[@Sandux930]

Big Boss became the very thing he despised

[@zzthedon4k]

the problem really is chronology. you see big boss' fall in the first metal gear games; the ones before MGS1. this introduction of venom snake was necessary to reach some resolution without this entire game just being "big boss goes from honoring the boss' will to becoming a maniac" (which to be fair could've been interesting, but wouldn't feel that great to play). although that still happens (in the background, and moreso covered by peace walker). its hard to write a story like this with so much lore already being pre-established

[@LiterallyRyan_Gosling]

What I like about the cutscene of Venom realizing his identity is that when he punches the mirror, it's his only act of giving into revenge. He let's his pent-up emotions all out with one final punch towards not his own reflection but that of Big Boss. And right afterward, he walks away into the shadows, into the final boss of Metal Gear 1, to fulfill his duty for Big Boss and accept his fate.

[@chrizzel28]

I will say, I subscribed to you primarily for Metal Gear Solid at the time. But while I may not watch everything else you put out, but whatever comes next I'm sure you'll give it your all. Here's to you, Max. May the end of this era of yours be the start of a new one.

[@maxderrat]

Thanks for sticking around for as long as you have, brother.

[@chrizzel28]

@@maxderrat I wouldn't have done so if your content wasn't top notch, my dude. Keep it up.

[@jaeger6846]

This is actually the best and easy-to-understand explanation of MGS series I have watched

[@arvinjay336]

@@maxderrat Maybe you can do a video on the MGSV novel especially on the part about Psycho Mantis, it was a very interesting take on his origins leading up to Chapter 0: Awakening.

[@3vChava]

It's like with YongYea after mgsV I stopped watching We'll see with MGS Delta

[@EntertainmentGym]

The instant Max finished is voiceover, I lost grip of my phone and watched it tumble all the way down a flight of steps. It landed on the basement floor right in between the rifle cabinet and the tool cabinet. Seems even the laws of physics agree this series is a masterpiece.

[@jonahpatton8879]

Fully semiautomatic ghost guns with 30 caliber magazine clips

[@nationalweatherbroadcast8445]

To pick up the phone, press the action button.

[@zeemzero2880]

Your correlation between having a weak will and revenge is something I never thought of. It does take a strong will to think about other pathways in life besides obtaining revenge on those who wronged us. Thanks 👍

[@johnnybensonitis7853]

It's the end of an era, but it had to end eventually. Not even a series this big can last forever, but it leaves an impression unlike anything else. Pretty crazy how Kojima had no interest in developing more MGS games after 2, and he didn't seem too thrilled about leading that project. But, he kept at it regardless, and it all led to this game, MGS V. The ending always gets me when Venom's dialogue is also speaking to the audience, and it's basically Kojima giving a heartfelt thanks. I'm really love how it ended on such a great note as far as his perspective on the series and the game being awesome despite the madness behind the scenes. Appreciate this vid, you did it justice my good man.

[@1pokemonfan5]

Rejoice, for Max has gifted us with (arguably) the most anticipated video across his channel history! And you completed it without crunch/minimal crunch while still feeling (I hope) self-satisfied with a work flow and diversified project approach that is best for your mental health! A glorious day, 9-20-22!

[@Nevir202]

Never played MGS 1, but I can still remember how mind blowing the themes of MGS 2 were to me as a youngster. I'll always be glad to have found your channel, to be reminded of that, and to find how common the sentiment was among others.

[@kaiozab4866]

it’s crazy how there’s so much to dissect in this story without even getting into how tragic of a character Venom Snake is

[@Ahh-Kuma]

Personal observation: MGSV also shows the 5th iteration of Big Boss. Solid, Liquid, Solidus, Liquid Ocelot, Venom. 3 genes, 2 memes.

[@unclechair2208]

This game has a very special place in my heart, it helped me get my arm back from the phantom pain that took it and provided me with great deal of enjoyment both from the story and the gameplay So thank you Max for doing a great job with it and giving it the respect it deserves, I will be looking forward to the new era of this channel so keep up the amazing work and remember that we are not going anywhere even if a video does not get great views we are still here

[@zesork5627]

You lost your arm?

[@unclechair2208]

@@zesork5627 not really, as a kid I was really sick and spent many years in hospital and most of my time there I had a tap-like thing ( dont know how it is called in english) for blood tests and I could still feel it for years after it was removed

[@Scooter7891]

Regarding Skullface's plan to give everyone nukes. If he views peace as the absence of war he knows even one madman pushing the button led to humanity's extinction, peace would be achieved either way because the fighting would and we weren't worth saving anyway.

[@Spectral352]

43:21 I really like that you stitched those two clips together, since it is the exact same pose, only with the roles reversed.

[@cjwinchester1206]

What a wonderful analysis. You honestly made me see things that I didn't see before. And you just gave me more reason to love Quiet who is my favorite character in the game. The way you ended this video was absolutely beautiful. I can feel it in your voice the love you have for this game and the pain to see it end. I noticed in your voice you were on the verge of tears while speaking the final words of your script. Much love to you Max for your transformative content and hopefully the MGS franchise will revive sooner rather than later.

[@KevinDurantBurnerAccount]

I wish there were more artists like you on KZbin. There are a lot of content creators out there but you’re always mentally challenging us as an audience to ponder different aspects of humanity. Great work as always.

[@DiggsLuciano]

May you wish come true.

[@emihe2181]

52:59 well, I’m more than happy to say that your channel along with this video have certainly achieved that goal. As I have commented this before on many videos of your and would comment it again many time more as saying this comment would never be considered enough: I learn so much from your videos, each and every one of them that I’ve watched. As words has never been my strongest suit, all I could say is thank you for all the lessons, wisdom, and value you have gifted to this world.

[@LaRavachole]

Man... how time flies. I've been here since your first MGS video and followed your channel ever since. However, I must say I also really like the other content you put out, specially regarding psychology from certain characters. Personally, I still think you'll get back to MGS someday when you find out a new theme. But even then, I'll stay here. Good work, Max! You're pretty good.

[@ChristopherLono]

For me slightly changing the order of missions/events would work a lot better. Hidden disarmament, birthday, shower, dog welcome scenes would remain optional but this makes more sense: Prologue Awakening Chapter 1 Revenge Episode 1 Phantom Limbs Episode 2 Mother Base Diamond Dogs intro (+ additional missing flashback of Kaz & Snake talk about their past so people get familiar with them) Episode 3 A Heros Way (+ 1st possible DD cutscene) Episode 4 C2W (+ Ocelot training the soldiers cutscene) Episode 5 Over the Fence (+ 2nd possible DD cutscene) Episode 6 To Know Too Much Required Side Op - Paz photos cutscene (+ PW backstory tapes unlocked etc.) Episode 7 Where do the Bees Sleep Episode 8 Red Brass (+ 3rd possible DD cutscene) Episode 9 Occupation Forces Episode 10 Cloaked in Silence Episode 11 Backup Back Down (+ Quiet in the cell conversation) Episode 12 Extraordinary Episode 13 Hellbound Chapter 2 Race Episode 14 Pitch Dark (+ 2nd Huey torture scene) Episode 15 Lingua Franca (+ Quiet released cutscene) Episode 16 Footprints of Phantoms (+ Soldiers fighting at the base cutscene) Episode 17 Traitors Caravan Episode 18 Blood Runs Deep Required Side Op - Retake the platform emergency (+ Huey begins work on the tank cutscene) Episode 19 Aim True Ye Vengeful Episode 20 On the Trail (+ Quiet in the rain cutscene) Episode 21 Voices Chapter 3 Punished Episode 22 White Mamba Episode 23 Rescue the Intel Agents (+ Huey continues developing Battle Gear) Episode 24 Hunting Down (+ Ocelot fights Eli cutscene) Episode 25 Root Cause (+ Quiet attacks the soldiers cutscene, epidemic outbreak) Episode 26 Code Talker Episode 27 Metallic Archaea (+ Quiet torture cutscene) Episode 28 Cursed Legacy (+ Code Talker talks with Snake cutscene) Required Side Op - Eli's challenge Episode 29 Shining Lights, Even in Death Episode 30 Skull Face (+ Huey finishes Battle Gear scene before we start) Episode 31 Sahelanthropus (BG tank should be used and sacrificed in this fight) Chapter 4 Peace Required Side Op - Secure the Remains of Man on Fire Episode 32 Angel with Broken Wings (+ Quiet recovers the necklace cutscene) Episode 33 War Economy Episode 34 Close Contact Required Side Op - Extract the A.I. Pod (+ Huey is expelled cutscene) Episode 35 Search for the Escaped Children 1 & 2 (+ Eli escapes cutscene) Episode 36 Proxy War without End Episode 37 Full Circle (missing Mozambique mission where Frank Jaeger appears with Ridgeback guard dogs) Episode 38 A Quiet Exit Episode 39 Kingdom of Flies Important Side Op - Secret Truth that is unlocked if your overall score is high enough Epilogue Flashback Credits Chapter 5 Haven You get post game missions 4 in Afghanistan & 5 in Africa (that are variations on some visited places in a special 80’s filter)

[@macfreak18]

It's truly amazing how I feel and could swear there's something more, something hidden in mgsv and yet by simply looking I know there isn't. A phantom pain is a true pain.

[@ratboyiscool]

Been waiting for this eagerly. Thanks for all your work and time you put into these

[@agopessimist1335]

A little bit late, but here are some things that I wanted to elaborate on with some of the points you made: 1. In regards to why Paz would be captured and tortured at a Cypher facility, wasn't it implied that Skull Face had gone rogue by then? Given that he still has control of XOF during the events of Phantom Pain, he still had a great deal of control over some portions of Cypher before his assassination attempt on Zero. He tortured Paz so that he can find Zero's location. 2. I'm glad that you brought up the ambiguity with Huey's involvement with what happened with MSF and DD. While you did bring up a good point with how Chico could have told Skull Face about MSF's location, it's important to bear in mind that Huey was going behind Big Boss's back way before Chico ran away from MSF to find Paz. Huey went out of his way to invite the IAEA to Mother Base even when both Big Boss and Kaz agreed to not meet their demands for an inspection. Since the inspection happened so soon after Chico's message was received, it makes no sense that Skull Face could possibly somehow man a large-scale ambush that quickly, while also knowing that Big Boss would come for Chico. The fact that Huey alone was taken away by XOF during the attack, and most damning of all, the fact that Strangelove had left Mother Base so soon before the actual XOF attack shows that a lot of what happened was premediated. I personally feel that Skull Face had planned the attack on Mother Base for a long time now, and Paz's capture and subsequent reveal of Zero's location was the nail in the coffin. That, and Huey's actions in Chapter 2 which were definitely proven to be true by Kaz, only help reinforce the fact that Huey was a genuine villain. It also helps contextualize his eventual suicide with Ocelot's dialogue about him in the end. Personally, I think the more important person to discuss in this video should have been Kaz instead. Huey was easily shown to be a garbage human being, Quiet's story showed a story of redemption and love, and Liquid's/Psycho-Mantis's story helped contextualize his hatred for his father and his plans for revenge in MS1. While the game does leave the tiniest bit of doubt for Huey and whether he was guilty or not, Kaz feels the most suspicious. Huey was technically correct during his torture in that Kaz WAS an agent of Cypher aka Zero during the events of Peace Walker. He also worked with Zero again after the attack on Mother Base to protect and watch over Big Boss during his coma. While I don't think his desire for revenge was fake, I feel that his revenge was focused mainly on Skull Face and the Cypher organization he partially controls. Not to mention how Kaz might have been supported by Zero the same way he did in PW by financing DD and providing them the money and means to deal with Skull Face and support Venom. It would explain why Big Boss decided to leave him and DD/MSF behind after the attack, why Ocelot assassinates Miller before MGS1, and why Ocelot subtly guides and manipulates solid snake throughout the series. Even if you end our discussion of Metal Gear with this video, I do hope you can discuss a little bit about Kaz's motivations throughout the series.

[@EricTheBroBean]

I feel you brother, MGS is a part of me, I grew up with it, always waiting with excitement for the next game in the series. Thank you Kojima, for giving us the greatest games of all time.

[@datguyuno98]

The quarantine platform mission sticks with me to this day as the best moment in the entire series, a perfect encapsulation of the entire games themes and motives showcased by it being the longest con anyone has ever pulled in a video game

[@gamingyarns]

So I just watched your whole metal gear retrospective in one straight go while working and damn that was amazing. Thankyou.

[@Rycerz49]

These are some of my favourite vids on KZbin. I love the mgs saga. You have made me want to play through them all again.

[@clubbasher32]

You’ve helped keep me alive with your presence and your work.

[@Ppanos423]

I love MGSV in all its fanservice glory! Its the game that made me fall in love with the Metal Gear Series. And Death Stranding which is its spiritual succesor I love as well!

[@captainnilz4990]

I just wanna say that i grow up with MGS, i learned a lot from it i grow without father or a brother there was no one to teach me things in life Soild and Big boss were there for me i'm writing this proudly that MGS made me who i am right now

[@gowgearhead]

Digging your Metal Gear run. Keep up the awesome work. :)

[@ashikelahie6035]

I almost watch all of your MGS video. They way you approach, explain, analyze are extraordinary. Thanks for your great work, Bro.

[@lepersonnage371]

I like MGS5 and always have. But so many things could've been done. 4th wall breaking things, survival mechanics in the open world where getting spotted and injured would be a problem, having to find food to heal (like in MGS3) would be cool, etc. Having Venom Snake be in different big strange situations, maybe with Mantis, etc. Just a field for so many opportunities.

[@jerrym1218]

That was beautiful Max. There’s something really special about iconic bad ass special agents/super soldiers who make the impossible seem possible. We watched Solid Snake grow and become the good hearted hero that he has created to be, and Big Boss also live long and realize that fighting the world is pointless because you only ended up losing yourself and everything that truly matters to you in the end. Then we also recently had James Bond finally find a reason to fight, die, and live on that truly mattered to him after all the pain, betrayals, heartache and loss that he had experienced in his long action packed journey. Heroic bad ass Iconic Legends who saved the world against ruthless evil people time and time again and inspired vast generations of men in the process. “Heroes never truly die, their legend lives on forever”.

[@ThePanchEffect]

I though that Race standed for the nuclear dissmantle online experience, and revenge for the game story single player

[@USAM672]

Watched this again today and it’s still just as good as when you first recorded it Max. Keep doing what you love brother and may you share your wisdom with us all!

[@YuriDavid16]

As I was listening to this video and before you mentioned the word that would describe the whole series, I had the exact same though of the word "will". Everything in this series makes you question what, if anything, are you willing to fight for and why. And I think in each game ending but especially in the 4rth that ethos is very well summarized. It's not about enforcing you change on the world and others, but instead to respect others will while fighting for your own. So many parts of this game in that sense remind me of the matrix and the oracle. Memorable bits where the context of the world and the context of the authors morality and narrative align in a moment to give you as truthful an insight as they believe in. I'm a huge fan of a lot of your videos and I work as an artist in this entertainment industry. I think people like you are now, more than ever, necessary in the trenches of video game creation and experiences. I would love to one day see that happen!

[@beckeras8848]

This is deep, I actually cried a little for Venom. I felt the pain, the agony, and the hurt he must have felt. I genuinely struggled within myself as I found myself defending the actions of Big Boss, then denying that Big Boss would do that to a comrade like Venom, hating Big Boss and wanting to be better, to actually accepting it all and not wearing my avatar face in the game thinking that I should fulfill my duty and not break my disguise so my mission to Big Boss is fulfilled. Venom Snake sacrificed everything for Big Boss, willingly, and Big Boss cared for him. Big Boss wanted to see his face one last time before they changed it, was worried about him potentially not being able to carry the name... This game is amazing.

[@theangryimp1345]

I still love this game most. Its such a good idea and it has by far the best gameplay. I love the avatar being playable and I love how we get metal gear rex but also something new. It's the most enjoyable game for me even if it is messy

[@notyepdranel961]

I literally just beat MGSV for the first time yesterday, thank you so much Max.

[@alkon8032]

The way I saw or how I played MGSV was that the Boss (Venom) was himself during the game, a Medic, a helper, a loyal soldier. Even though Naked's image was upfront the choices made by Venom was his own, the guy even kept pictures of his soldiers, the love of his life, took memories of building Mother Base because he wanted to. Instead of turning the children into soldiers, he just let them do basic jobs, let them be educated, a chance for a normal life would Naked do this? The guy even love his soldiers because he even turned them into ash and brought them to his missions, Venom could have easily killed Huey, Quiet, and Skull Face even but no, Venom to the core had the will to keep on keeping on and chose to be the Phantom because Big Boss knew he is the best among all of them and Venom trusted Big Boss the same.

[@TheMarq16]

I haven't enjoyed discovering a new channel like this since I found Super Bunny Hop. Great content!

[@benfrancois7856]

Another great video as usual from my favorite philosopher and alchemist

[@InfiniT0171]

Yes another MGS video from Max! Can’t wait to finish this one haha, I’ve been watching since the Aion lectures (:

[@sungatti4718]

About time. Been waiting years.. thank you my friend

[@Piunti_302]

This was absolutely amazing! Even after playing mgsv all the time for soooo many years now I never understood the whole story. So thank you for this✌🏼 and I agree I also hate that Konami killed this absolutely amazing game very sad that we'll never ever be able to get another one.

[@Fertro]

Huh, I binged a few MGSV reviews, critiques and analyses three of four days ago and this one pops up after I finish. Neat!

[@KojiMadarA333]

Can't wait to get home and watch this Thankyou very much, Max Keep on the amazing work 👍🏼

[@kingdb8906]

We will watch all the videos no matter what I am still amazed with your content thank you for your hard work

[@mickverv7243]

been waitin for this. bless you max

[@Glassandcandy]

It’s good to see this games writing is getting reappraised so well. I think the reason why so many people didn’t like it was due to the lions share of value being being subtextual and, let’s face it, most people don’t know how to close-read something, especially as complicated as MGSV

[@philleotardo8760]

I told myself I wouldn’t subscribe to anyone els on KZbin because I have soooo many subscriptions it’s hard to keep up with, but after watching this video I couldn’t just pass this channel without subscribing. Very well done MGS 5 video.

[@cardboardbox9783]

Thank you for this profound masterpiece series on the Metal Gear franchise. It says a great many things I believe many of us feel about both MGSV and the MGS series but perhaps had not put into words. We will carry the Boss's legacy, the spirit and will of what she, and the Metal Gear franchise, stands for. "I raised you and loved you. I've given you weapons, taught you techniques, endowed you with knowledge. There's nothing left for me to give you. All that's left for you to take is my life." -The Boss

[@ethanmichaelcrane934]

I love the absolute scumminess of Huey. I also love the irony of betrayal being the thing that prompts his suicide.

[@tyleraguilar2474]

Hey Maxx have you ever thought about thought about doing analysis on the different key players in the metal gear series? Would love to see one on Solid, Big Boss and Raiden

[@omeniel]

An absolutely amazing video. Thank you, sir.

[@mayhewstorm1473]

This has quickly become one of my favorite channels on KZbin.

[@maxderrat]

Thank you.

[@matthewmcshane399]

Ur channel is so good. Keep up the great work.

[@RickyBlickey]

Woke up like an hour or 2 ago stayed up till 8 am to finish mission 31 last night and now I have this video to watch thank you 🫡

[@VikingVern7]

most of the mgs games have two locations and or two missions, im surprised they didnt make metal gear one and two and call it metal gears. The first big boss fight could look like venom snake.

[@KBXband]

I love how the entire series subverts the trope of good guys and bad guys by making the hero morally ambiguous. Is it the greater good we fight for? Or our own desires? Do we enjoy all the killing or do we want to try and save everyone?

[@DetectiveStablerSVU]

Lol I searched "metal gear solid 5 retrospective" and I couldn't have been greeted with a better search result

[@grahamhole493]

Thanks for making such quality content. I love your content no matter where it lies on our venn doagram of interests. You are my favorite KZbinr and i hope you continue as long as it adds something worthwhile to your life

[@TalRaMav]

You knocked it out of the park Max. Go get yourself a chemical burger.

[@kerryvanskonsol792]

Huh?

[@dr.loomis4221]

I really wish MGSV had the structure of the first 4 MGS games. Burying so much of the story in audio tapes is a huge bummer for me. I've personally always enjoyed the big flashy cutscenes.

[@KNGDDDE]

Idk, I felt I got most of the story from the mission breifing and dialouge. Every scene eith skull faced got watch tho, almost nuerotically. I was randomly shouting "REVENGE!" at work for a few days ngl... good times.

[@Muzzle1300]

Something I think that is fitting with skull face is that with his lack of identity taking on the persona of a phantom, he has the biggest revenge on the world by causing much of the conflicts in the series such as crippling Zero making it impossible for him to give him the possibility of making amends with Big Boss, destroying the original MSF pushing Big Boss to create a doppelgänger who would create the blue print for the war economy. Yet in the end he isn’t mentioned in any of the metal gears (obviously cuz of retconning) but it’s similar to Monster’s Johan, and to someone like Skull Face he would welcome this.

[@scarrface28]

so well explained, and brings the story to such depth... however how deep does one have to look to get this information... Its too deep sometimes for me. Still amazing. Thanks for the video.

[@Blueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

I personally think metal gear solid 5's story was great. To me it really conveyed the confusion and secrecy of the world and its characters. Really feels like you're being deceived and used by allies and enemies. Made to think you're a hero making actual change to the world

[@Sum_Dude2]

36:52 i see that sneaky little arrow on the left

[@M4ruta]

A fascinating video essay, as always. Still, I hope you were bluffing when you said this will be your last MGS video. So much is still left to explore. Just of the top of my head, how about more musings on... * considering ideas as being alive just as much as any organism is (think of Dawkins' conception of memes as the cultural equivalent of genes) * Nietzschean philosophy, in particular his notion of the 'death of God' (meaning: the end of metaphysics) and the necessity for the new man (Übermensch) to overcome nihilism by creating new values. * the coming of superhuman AI in the form of the Singularity * the cyclical nature of history and politics * the concept of negativity and how it appears throughout the MGS saga, i.e.: people with no name, no background, no nation... the dread of nothingness that awaits when you realize that you've build your identity on a pipe dream Forgive me if you've already covered any of these in great length. I'm just here to encourage you to keep sending your thoughts into the world.

[@antoninbaklouti3307]

This is for me the best Metal Gear Solid and also one of the most complex masterpiece about war

[@jumpfold]

I love 5 one of my favorites.

[@cmleibenguth]

While some parts were weird or unfinished, it was still awesome Really want to see what happens if / when the counter reaches 0 and the phantom nukes are gone I love your series on MGS themes btw

[@lovethesuit]

You had me at the topic and runtime. Preemptive subscription. Now let's see if I was right!

[@Onezy05]

Hey, was waiting for this to drop!

[@deesla3135]

Hahaa Thanks you so much bro ! A Man of taste ! I am happy to see that I'm not the only one whos sad about the end of MGS. What à masterpiece, the only game I tried that make me wouahw as MGSV is RDR 2. I understand you completlely, it's hard to find à game to play after you know MGS isnt it ? Thanks for your video ❤

[@Wurmz]

I AM SO EXCITED FOR THIS YOU HAVE NO IDEA.

[@CordellPotts]

MGS on PS1 spoiled me, It made me expect more from video games. MG3 amped up those expectations. Playing that game gave me the same feelings that watching T2 and Jurassic Park in theaters as a 12yr old boy gave me. It's absolutely my favorite all time game.

[@DangaiRo]

I heard. At the last line. Your voice almost cracked. It moved me. Thank you.

[@amirh.8472]

A bit late to this but what burned me the most were the implications of the plot twist within the series itself. I get where Kojima was coming from. Making the player a part of big bosses legend. At the same time we're the body double of big boss the same guy who is forced to sacrifice himself for big boss during Zanzibar.

[@Scamalasaurus]

I've followed Kojima for over 20 years now. The man, at many points in history would have been put to death for what he sees. Ask yourself "What is a greater threat? A virus or what the errant mess of human communication and modern connectedness makes of it and the reactions that are provoked because of that?" Now, look at what the world is now and then know that he was working on this and being stifled at every corner a good 7 years before you ever even heard of COVID. This man envisioned what the smart phone would do back when flip phones were the coolest thing, KZbin was an infant and Facebook didn't exist. If you don't understand, then that's ok but shove the ego aside and respect and learn because his true legacy is to teach and there is great value in the mystery that is Hideo Kojima.

[@metalgear0945]

i can't believe i'm saying this, but this video made me realize that mgsv is really personal to me. i struggle with revenge and race, with both are intertwined. i was bullied a lot because i wasn't as athletic due to my horrible asthma and/or "manly" (whatever their definition of masculinity was, i wasn't that). it was at this time that i encountered metal gear saga, starting with mgs3. since then i always had revenge in my mind on those that made me suffer things. it helped me persevere through hard times, be it college, work, or being an active person overall. but it is destructive and self-fulfilling. i started fantasizing about their downfall. it took a toll on me and my mind. i'm anxious all the time and i might have some sort of mental illness (i'm thinking of going to a therapist to give my condition a name, but not right now). worst of all, i'm angry at almost everything. i'm angry at them, at the world for making them doing such terrible things at me, and at myself for not strong enough to struggle. holding on to revenge is like holding on to a hot burning coal in a intense blizzard. your hands are burning and it hurts, yet you have to do it to keep yourself warm. now that i'm days away from turning 25 years old, i have no desire to exact revenge. i'm tired. it's time for me to let it go, and to let the world be. i don't know if i can forgive them and myself, yet i know i'm willing to let the anger go. but what remains is this empty void of excess hate that i'm not sure what to do with it. now that i let go of the burning coal, all i have now is a burned hand. it hurts me, like a phantom pain. i hope i have the power, will, and the strength of character to keep going on and just live. this profile picture of otacon from mgs2 that i use is the symbol of that hope. i really hope the best is yet to come. thank you for the great retrospective series on metal gear saga, and for all the other quality videos that you made (my personal favorites being your take on heart of darkness, shadow of the colossus, and silent hill). your videos have helped me appreciate video game as a storytelling medium and, to a degree, myself. here's to you, max!

[@johnrockwell5834]

We have outsourced revenge to Government and the criminal justice system. They definitely are specialists in that area.

[@zaza7170]

Your comment speaks to my heart tho, although we are strangers on the internet. I'm turning 25 too and used to be bullied too. I had those violent thoughts too, but at the end it was that frustration that was eating me up and I learned to move on Respect to you man and keep going on

[@FortheLoveofGamingYT]

Happy 9 year anniversary of MGS 5!

[@dancreary3340]

Max, I speak on behalf of your fans, and fans of the metal gear series, please, give us what we want, and make a two hour analysis on metal gear survive, which is objectively and obviously not only the best game in the series, but one of the best games ever made. Please bro, please. 🙏

[@PlagueInjected]

Love your work dude!

[@PautinoPR]

Skull Face is my favorite villain from the franchise..i just love his mysterious character and feels like a Bond villain

[@AparoDedaro]

"I'm afraid it's been... 7 years..."

[@ItalianJoe83]

48:47 It may also cause some "conflicts" of massive magnitude with the viewer's "internal timeline" "for a S-Special reason."

[@SpinalAlloy]

Congratulations on finishing the series! I had been looking forward to this video for a while, and a great way to close the chapter of this book That being said, if I may, I think there are a few things I would've done differently. I feel like the topic of "RACE" wasn't covered enough. With a game that took place in Afghanistan and Angola/Zaire, the theme is very prevalent and shows some of the worst sins that man can commit, and can also reflect how it reflects the world. Maybe it could've been two separate 60 min videos, Pt 1 and 2, but I don't know what your situation is like, and I trust you when you say that you don't have the proper resources available Still, it was a great ending of the retrospective series and I look forward to watching more of your analysis videos in the future! Take care!

[@mrRiverbear45]

@20:35 you could say they are the results when one is born in revenge due to race. Everyone else spiraled into revenge while eli and mantis carried it throughout their entire lives.

[@mrRiverbear45]

And that’s the meme they have been passed down to from people like Skullface and Venom

[@ALPHAxNGA]

Him:What would be the 1 word theme for the mgs saga Me:confusion

[@Sneaky_racoon_sly]

i love mgsv. its so interesting to talk about.

[@Brandon_Powell]

You know the worst part of trying to forget that Metal Gear Solid 5 happened is the fact that every now and then someone will remember Metal Gear Solid 5 happened and be like hey remember Metal Gear Solid 5? And then I have to remember Metal Gear Solid 5.

[@jeremybrown3544]

I loved Skullface. His monologue on the hidden tape from GZ was amazing. I just wish he had more screentime and a BOSS FIGHT in TPP. Huge, missed opportunity.

[@MorroWolf]

max you are my favorite youtube channel now.

[@np4988]

Thanks for making these videos.

[@maxderrat]

Thank you for watching them.

[@tannerslomko]

Great video, Max. Hopefully more games come out so we get some new MGS content.

[@Gyrannon]

I know we'd be missing out on a ton of the game if we opted to kill Quiet, but it does raise the question, if she is the reason the base gets infected, then what happens if she isn't there to make that happen? Also there is a point where the game taunts the idea of extracting The Man on Fire, say we did, what would happen? Personally for Huey, I never liked him. I never got far enough to where I learned how evil he was. But it felt way too obvious even tho I had never played Peacewalker or Ground Zeroes yet. The cowardice, the unrealistic levels of "woe is me" radiating from him, the fact that he claims innocence despite all the evidence contrary, everything about him screamed that he is guilty, but he'd rather play the victim even tho he knows he is far from being a victim. Now after seeing it, now I'm left with wondering how the bloody hell he survived at all as it was very clear that he was hated by both sides. Plus the nerve of him, asking for help from people he betrayed twice. Ironically, the ones who deserved the title of victim more than Huey were Kaz, Snake, and Skull Face.

[@TheAlison1456]

You can kill quiet and you can extract the Man of Fire, but it's not acknowledged in the story, sadly! On Huey, I dislike that he was boated...

[@grayfox7995]

I think you should look deeper into Hideo Kojima physical and mental health. After Snake Eater, he no longer wanted to continue the story despite Konamis protests.