Maximize Your DEGRITTER - Tips To Unlock The Full Potential

[@knockshinnoch1950]

This is a great channel. Informative, no nonsense, practical. Thank you.

[@XjunkieNL]

Thanks! Always nice to get great positive feedback. Cheers. /Paul

[@dieselophile]

I really like your channel, very practical and fun.

[@XjunkieNL]

Thanks! Always nice to receive positive feedback. Many more to come :) All the best. Cheers. /Paul

[@justinallen4817]

I am just about to purchase one of these cleaners and your video has helped me enormously, especially the extra little tips. Brilliant video, thanks!!

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Justin. Exciting times. If you are looking for the most easiest way to get clean records? You have found it :) This is the perfect machine. Happy to share all the little tips and tricks I've discovered over time. Cheers. /Paul

[@hatfieldjimi]

Just bought one this week. Your video is very informative. Thank you so much for making it! 😁

[@XjunkieNL]

Cool! Welcome to the club of lazy record cleaning :) You've got an awesome machine. Your records will never sound this clean. Enjoy! Cheers. /Paul

[@sadakichihartmann1827]

Thank you for sharing these valuable tips & tricks.

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi. Thank you for watching. Hope the tips are helpful. And make it even more fun to clean records :) Take care. Cheers. /Paul

[@sadakichihartmann1827]

@@XjunkieNL I am a bit concerned about those aquarium filters. This is from the forum thread: But I can just filter it out with my new aquarium filter! Hmm, I don't think you can......... Aquarium Filters for Ultrasonic Cleaners and vinyl -I don't think that the cheap hang-over type filter would do all that much. I tried to look up specs, but there are none apart from flowrate, which should tell you something. Let's say it filtered down as low as 1 micron for example (which I doubt). Everything below that size will still be there (colloidal suspension). Additionally, various salt contaminants will dissolve in the cleaning water and will not be filtrable (thereby raising TDS). There are more expensive canister filters, or industrial type filters like Cuno filter/pump, but the best they can do is around 0.5 micron and they are also expensive. www.stereo.net.au/forums/topic/113714-ultrasonic-cleaning-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/page/4/ Have you noticed any drop in the cleaning quality when comparing two filters, Paul?

[@XjunkieNL]

What is your goal? What do you want to filter out? The info from the forum seems to imply you want to filter the water to be distilled water again. I can imagine if you want to remove all impurities you need a serious filtering solution to do this and an aquarium filter wont do. /Paul

[@sadakichihartmann1827]

@@XjunkieNL My goal is to have the same quality result with the aforementioned aquarium filters as with the original 'degritter' filters.

[@XjunkieNL]

In my experiences I get similar results. Not better, not worse. I do find myself exchanging the filter more often as it only takes a minute to swap it with a new one. Have a good weekend. /Paul

[@capstrauss63]

Thks for your helpfull Videos. I just ordered my Degritter and cant wait to get and test it. It was hard to decide for it due to the price but I hope my better lissening experience will make it worth. Have a good time.

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi. Congrats! Be ready to have some fun :) Not only will your records sounds the best they ever did, but the way you look at cleaning records will change. Say goodbye to manual cleaning sessions. Hope it arrives soon. Cheers. /Paul

[@capstrauss63]

@@XjunkieNL Hello, it arrived yesterday and its working all day long now. I am glad I got it, my 50 year old records sound even better than new. (because 50 years ago we never did good cleaning or washing LP´s :)) Thanks again for your Video !

[@XjunkieNL]

Nice! Hahah, yes its like waving a magic wand. Get those records clean again :) /Paul

[@ackamack101]

This was a great video. Thank you! It is nice to know that you can use your own cleaning solution with this machine! 😌👍

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi! Thanks for the comment. I agree it's a great feature you can use your own cleaning solution. Which was by the way not so easy to implement, all material had to be made alcohol prove. It's fun to try different recipes and see what works best. Cheers. /Paul

[@ackamack101]

@@XjunkieNL That’s great! I am glad you are enjoying your machine!

[@XjunkieNL]

It's a great machine. Especially if you're a bit lazy like me ;)

[@ackamack101]

@@XjunkieNL 😆 Glad to hear it.

[@johnbellamy3406]

Lovely piece of kit there Paul. I don't believe that you have been using it for the past two years. It is obvious that you were impressed by the wet/dry vacuum method that I showed last month and you felt the need to upstage me. :-)

[@XjunkieNL]

Thanks, John! You see right trough me. I just unpacked it last week ;) But I must confess your video did inspire me for a new video. Cheers. /Paul

[@FatCityVinyl]

Interesting demonstration, so many gadgets on the market now to clean records! You can really go crazy if you have the budget for it. All the best, have a nice weekend!

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Doug. It's indeed amazing how many, often product's from the seventies, are reintroduced. Vinyl is hot. But we knew that already, seen by the competition we have at the thrift stores. You too have a great weekend. Over here we are advised to stay indoors...spinning lots of vinyl :) Cheers.

[@richardherbert3519]

Very interesting video

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Richard. Thanks for checking out the video. Hope the tips and tricks are helpful. Cheers. /Paul

[@stevecarlsonvinylcommunity9147]

Really nice system Paul. That is much more elaborate than my spin clean.

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Steve. Thanks! Hahah, yes, a bit more elaborate than your spin clean. But you still have both kidneys, I only one ;) Cheers. /Paul

[@TrippinGnome]

Excellent tips and what a great record cleaning machine! Everything you need built into it!

[@XjunkieNL]

Thanks. I was lucky, just around the time I planned on starting doing a DIY ultrasonic cleaner. A system setup very much like yours. i got the opportunity to join the beta testing program of this machine. A journey that turned out to be fun and exciting. Cheers. /Paul

[@dixielandfarm]

Love the DIY filter idea. Loved hearing all the tips (even though I don't have the machine). Any audiophile should really have this machine.

[@XjunkieNL]

Hey Kris! Can't help myself. Have to fiddle around :) Even though the design team tried to put in everything that is know now about ultrasonic record cleaning. I can imagine a DIY ultrasonic setup is also something you have thought about :) Cheers. /Paul

[@dixielandfarm]

@@XjunkieNL It is - in fact that was the only way to do them a few years ago. A clever guy found an industrial one that you used to be able to get cheap and he invented a clamp/motor to use in conjunction. For me, I listen so casually that the scrubbing bubbles/sink method works fine for me. If I had a true audiophile setup, however, this would be #1 on the list.

[@XjunkieNL]

Yeah, I think many saw that as a blue print. Me too. And was already doodling things on paper. When the opportunity came to join this project as a beta tester. These guys took many of the DIY ideas and experiences and put it into one nice looking package. Manual cleaning is also much more meditative and gets you closer to the vinyl :) /Paul

[@federicopivetta7387]

Thanks so much for your excellent review and video. After reading several reviews this tends to the machine with the most positive reviews. Unfortunately they just went up by $300 here in the US. Like someone else wrote, I wish they would make a more affordable design but then again, it may not yield the same results. All the best.

[@XjunkieNL]

Hey Federico. Thank you for the comment. At the moment the Degritter is second to none. To be honest I was expecting them to make a more affordable version. But it seems the new model will have even more features. For example a double water tank, to have an automatic rinse cycle. Not sure, but at some point second hand unit will become available, maybe that's an option for you. All the best. Cheers. /Paul

[@TheVinylGuru]

Nice! I wanted to know how smooth it was. Its very quiet and smooth, thats lovely. Great channel. On it now babe!

[@XjunkieNL]

Hey! Nice to see you stop by :) For sure it's one smooth machine to clean records. Now I'm hopping over to your channel. See you at the other side ;) Cheers. /Paul

[@graydad5031]

Love your videos keep them coming I would love one of these ultrasonics as I think they are amazing at getting your records clean I have been following this company since it was released but the price is a bit to heavy for me never mind, maybe one day! I would love more FUNK / Headhunters or similar. xx

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi! Yeah more funk, sounds good to me :) It's a lot of money, and you can buy a lot of other things for the money. But not a better record cleaning machine. Hopefully as they sell more and more units the price will come down. I believe they are also thinking about a more basic version. Thanks for the comment. Cheers. /Paul

[@The_Jazzman]

Hi Paul, a little bit late😉, but I just ordered my first Degritter (the Mark II). Thanks for the video - very helpful. But what tool do you use to stamp the filters you need from the filter foam block? Can you share a link to it? Do you still work this way or have you found a better way? Thanks in advance, Chris

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi! Everybody that owns a Degritter and using it for some time will say "I should have bought it sooner" :) Congrats on your purchase. You got the best version of the Degritter. I still use the home made filters; with every clean I exchange it. In fact still using the same foam block :) I think the stamper I use is officially called a "cork borer". Happy lazy vinyl cleaning. Cheers. /Paul

[@ericyum6729]

Thanks for the video!!! In your opinion, What is the best record cleaning machine now? Degritter?

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Eric. Thanks for watching. Is it the best? My experience is limited to diy vacuum record cleaning machines, including LoriCraft, but no other ultrasonic record cleaners. This is the cleanest I've gotten my records, with a minimal amount of effort. Like there is no best cleaning method, there is most probably also no best record cleaning machine. That being said, it is a wonderful machine, I couldn't live without it, with this crazy hobby :) Happy holidays. Cheers. /Paul

[@ericyum6729]

@@XjunkieNL Thanks so much for the reply! Happy Holidays to you and all who are watching!

[@jodipiazza4704]

Thanks for the video, it’s excellent, when you clean the Degritter with Vinegar, do you fill it to minimum with distilled what and then add vinegar, or do you add the vinegar neat please?

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi! Thank you for the comment. Most of the time I fill it with vinegar whenever the water level has dropped below the miminum recommened level, and fill up it almost completely. My guess this is approx 10%, maybe a little more. Then I start twice a quick cleaning cycle. Hope this info help. All the best. Cheers. /Paul

[@jodipiazza4704]

@@XjunkieNL Thanks for your reply, will clean it tomorrow with your recommendation. All the best.

[@XjunkieNL]

Maybe a little addendum, if it's the first time you are using vinegar, and have used the unit a lot, no problem to do for example four quick clean cycles (without the drying step) /Paul

[@jodipiazza4704]

@@XjunkieNL Thank you for the great advice, love, love watching your videos, all the very best. If you come to the UK you’re invited for coffee and vinyl.

[@cameraplus7233]

A really great & informative video. I'm currently using an Audio Desk System Pro & have had a few issues & concerns relating to drying. To me this looks like it could be a better option in a number of ways. Have you had any experience with the Audio Desk cleaner?

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi. Thanks for the comment. Always nice to get positive feedback. Unfortunately I have no experience with any other ultrasonic record cleaner. I can only add that the drying settings on the Degritter are very flexible. You can pre-set the blowing power and duration over a big range. Cheers. /Paul

[@orsonwelles4312]

Very informative videos you provide . One question about the Degritter (also pertains to other ultrasonic cleaners). The heavier material cleaned off the record drops to the bottom of the tank and is presumably filtered out by the small filter when the water is drained. However , lighter material cleaned off the record floats to the top of the water level and can leave a line of debris on the record even after cleaning. has this been your experience at all ? Is there a way to minimize this or avoid it? regards

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi! It's very true what you say. Some dirt with float. Also some dirt removed from the record, with the help of surfactants, will have a preference to float. It's easy to recontaminate the cleaned vinyl this way. The Degritter found a solution for this. During the cleaning phase the top water layer is pump through the filter. There is an overflow ridge, a bit like in a swimming pool. This way the unit tries to minimize the possibility of recontamination. Hope this info helps a little bit. All the best. Cheers. /Paul

[@michaelcannon3978]

Great video! As a new owner of a Degritter, I found it very informative and helpful. I have a question regarding the water level, though. It may have been addressed in a previous comment, as I have not had a chance to look through all of them…and if it has, sorry for the repetition! Do you always use the “high level” setting when washing 12” LPs? If so, have you experienced any issues with water damage on the labels? I can certainly see the advantage to cleaning more of the dead wax, as your stylus still has to pass through this area, but have been hesitant about using the “high level” due to my concern about the water getting that close to the label. Thanks!

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Michael. Congratulations with your new record cleaning machine. I'm sure you will be very happy with the results. In my settings I still use the highest level. Never seen any water damage. Sometimes it happens that there is a water droplet on the label. It just dried off. The control of the water level seems very accurate, and the unit never over fills the ultrasonic tank. Thanks for watching. Cheers. /Paul

[@matt4216]

Excellent video, and I appreciate all of the tips you laid out. I'm thinking about finally picking one up in a couple of weeks. Everything I've read and seen seems to indicate it's a worthwhile investment. :-) One question though... what do you clean the filters with if you intend to reuse them? Do you just use hot water and dish soap like you do with the tank, or do you use a different type of method? Thanks for all of your work and help!

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Matt. If you are going the route of an automatic record cleaner, this is one to consider seriously. To answer your question, as you can see in the video I make my own filter. Easy to do, and the costs is probably something like 10 cents. So I don't give it any thought and just replace. Sometimes they are a little dirty, sometimes not. If you want to reuse the original one, rinse them with tap water. They clean pretty easy. Hope this helps. Cheers. /Paul

[@matt4216]

@@XjunkieNL Thank you for the quick reply Paul! I appreciate the tips and suggestion of how to about cleaning the filter. I'm definitely thinking about doing what you're doing with making new filters down the road, but it's nice to have options of cleaning too if need be. I'm happy to hear that they clean as easy as you say! And yes, I'm basically sold on this premium piece of equipment! ;-)

[@XjunkieNL]

Maybe fun to know, during beta testing I used the cleaning filter without the internal foam filter, only the metal fine mesh filter, still got great results. /Paul

[@matt4216]

@@XjunkieNL Oh wow, that's awesome! It seems like the developers really put everything they could into making this product. I wouldn't have imagined the actual foam filter was basically a bonus for the whole cleaning process.

[@XjunkieNL]

Yeah, it's a pretty amazing record cleaner. From the start the basic layout was fantastic, and with the additions and improvements over time it only got better. /Paul

[@L.E.55472]

Afternoon Paul 👋🏻 I love these vids you upload, how have you been? Healthy and fine I hope.....take care - Lis

[@XjunkieNL]

Hey Lis. All is well. Although day to day life is a bit strange. In my country I live in the city/province with the most corona contaminations. All the best. Take care. /Paul

[@L.E.55472]

X junkie NL oh geeez you be careful Paul 🙏🏻😯

[@dieselophile]

Sorry if you've already mentioned this & I missed it.. but Id like to know more about the cleaning solution or solutions you like to use....pure distilled water or alcohol solution? ...or with some surfactant/antifungal antistat as well??

[@XjunkieNL]

Happy to share the cleaning solution I use in the Degritter. It is 95% distilled water and 5% pure isopropanol (IPA). I prefer not to use additional surfactants. The formula works very well in the Degritter and gets the records clean. It also takes any the need of a final rinse step. Hope this helps a little. Thanks for watching. /Paul

[@JamboLinnman]

I have a Watson’s vacuum-type RCM that I use with L’Art du Son fluid (and I’m happy with). I’m tempted by an ultrasonic machine, though. Have you compared the Degritter vs a vacuum type machine? Any comments? Do you think it’s worth 5x the price? Also, I’ve read that some people prefer to do a two stage clean - first on their vacuum-type RCM, then the Degritter. Have you heard of this and do you think that’s better than multiple cycles on the Degritter?

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Sean. For many years I've used a RCM similar to the Watson type. Later on made my own LoriCraft type RCM. On both I used L'Art Du Son. It was, or actually still is, my favorite cleaning solution. It all depends a little bit on what you are looking for. To get a record clean, both system do a good job. This is something you probably already have experienced and know. With a Degritter you get that clean record, to the next level. Think of upgrading your cartridge to a model twice as expensive. It will make it sound even better. For a really dirty records, I think, the two stage cleaning will work faster. You need some kind of pre-clean to remove the real dirty stuff. This can be a spin clean or a vacuum RCM. Hope this helps a little. Cheers. /Paul

[@JamboLinnman]

@@XjunkieNL yes, very helpful. Thank you.

[@CapitanHarlockisback]

You should try the Humminguru and make a comparsion.

[@XjunkieNL]

Would be cool to try one. And see how well it performs. On paper it doesn't seem to be fair to compare it to a Degritter. The specs of the Degritter for cleaning power and ease of use are second to none. Still its great to see a new entry in the ultrasonic record cleaning market. Cheers. /Paul

[@CapitanHarlockisback]

@@XjunkieNL I don’t see any advantage in ease of use. The cleaning power rests to be tested.

[@XjunkieNL]

Ease of use is for me personal related to the amount of automatication of the cleaning process. Compare for example the automatic versus the manual entering of the water in the ultrasonic tank. Cleaning power is defined by the size and amount of cleaning bubbles. No need to test, to know how a 300W unit compares to a 60W unit. As I said before it is not fair to compare both units directly, they are aimed at a different part of the market. /Paul

[@CapitanHarlockisback]

@@XjunkieNL I’m not sure to understand the difference, you need to fill out the tank in the Degritter , and the ultrasonic tank in the Humminguru (that has an automatic draining System) , you don’t need to release anything. The ultrasonic power is much higher, but a real test (possibly using a microscope) would be the way to go. I really hope that the Degritter is much better, since it costs 5 times more than the Humminguru, but, who knows…

[@XjunkieNL]

The difference is that with the Humminguru you need to manually add the exact right amount of water to the tank with every record you clean. The Degritter automatically drains and fills. The unit is equiped with pumps and sensors to pump the water around. It feels like I'm bashing the Hummingbird, which is not my meaning. You can't expect a 5x cheaper unit to perform the same. It's like expecting a $500 turntable to sound as good as a $2500 turntable. It just doesn't. /Paul

[@GerardDelissen-ni8qw]

Hallo, sinds vandaag de degritter in mijn bezit. De leverancier heeft hem bij mij geplaatst, 1 lp in de machine, veel schuim op de plaat? Of hij het reservoir juist gevuld heeft of teveel cleaner geplaatst heeft is bij mij dus nu de vraag. Wat ik ook graag zou willen weten of je ook een uitleg in het Nederlands hebt gemaakt, mijn Engels is wat bagger op dat gebied.

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Gerard. Gefeliciteerd met je Degritter. Een geweldige platenreiniger. Het lijkt erop dat er teveel schoonmaakvloeistof in je tank zit. Je hebt echt maar een minimale hoeveelheid nodig. Het kan ook zijn dat er nog veel oude reinigingsvloeistof op de plaat zit. En dat deze op het ultrasoon reageert. Hoe ging het met de plaat erna? Fijne avond nog. /Paul

[@GerardDelissen-ni8qw]

Hoi Paul, Ik ben idd doorgegaan met andere platen en nu gaat het beter. In jouw uitleg zag ik azijn langskomen, kan je daar ook mee schoonmaken? Heb via de officiële side naar een pdf in het Nederlands gevraagd maat deze is er niet en nu willen het ook niet vertalen. Dat betekent dus voor mij dat ik nog met heel veel vragen en onkunde helaas blijf zitten

[@XjunkieNL]

Gelukkig hoef je minimaal aan de instellingen te komen. LP er in en op de start knop drukken :) De schoonmaak azijn die ik toon, is om de Degritter zelf schoon te maken. Dat doe ik eens per 3 maanden, hangt er een beetje vanaf hoeveel platen ik heb gereinigd. /Paul

[@GerardDelissen-ni8qw]

Hoi Paul, even nog een vraag. Doe ik een plaat nu schoonmaken krijg ik alleen aan de voorkant vochtigheid, echter op de achterkant zie ik duidelijk dat er schuim op zit. Klopt dit of doe ik iets fout?

[@GerardDelissen-ni8qw]

Of ik begrijp het niet, maar goed werken ho maar. Platen komen er NIET droog uit. De tafel waarop hij staat wordt tussendoor kleddernat van de spetters.

[@timothykeough1106]

Hi Paul. What is the tool you use to cut the DIY filter? ALSO, what is the circumference of the opening on the tool?

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Timothy. Not sure what the English term for the tool is. I think it's called a holle punch set. It's mostly used for punching holes in leather or cork. The size you need is a bit trial and error, as it depends on the material you're cutting. You need a size that is a bit larger as the actual size of the filter. Best of luck. Cheers. /Paul

[@RahimMohamad]

@@XjunkieNL I have ordered a 40cm by 40cm, 3cm thick filter foam from the aquarium shop for the filter replacement. What is the diameter of your punch hole pipe ? Is it 16mm ?

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi again Rahim. It depends a little on the material. If it is flexible the diameter needs to be a bit bigger as the actual size. I believe I used 12 last time. By the way ones you have drilled one, you can split the filter in two. And have two of 15mm. You have a life time supply of filters :) All the best. Cheers. /Paul

[@JohnMackey]

I just received my Degritter a few days ago, and your video is extremely helpful! Thank you for making this. To clarify, you're using 2-4 ml of the cleaning solution, plus 20 ml of alcohol? What's the concentration of the alcohol you're using? (I can find 91% isopropyl alcohol easily in drug stores in the US, but nothing stronger.)

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi John. Big congrats with your Degritter. You are going to enjoy cleaning records this way. Hahah, you probably already are :) The recipe I mention is only for sticky dirty records that aren't clean after a standard wash. I would not recommend it for everyday use. I'm using 99% alcohol. I think you should be able to find it. Thanks for watching. Have fun! Cheers. /Paul

[@RahimMohamad]

@X junkie NL hi! The degritter is great, and I've been using it diligently on new and old records alike diligently. Referring to the isopropyl alcohol bit, just to clarify : is it OK for normal usage, you use 20ml of 99% isopropyl alcohol + 2 to 4ml of the supplied cleaning fluid ? Or not recommended at all?

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Rahim. You can combine both. At the moment I only add 40 ml of alcohol to the water. I've tried different combinations, the machine can handle all, just depends on your personal preference. Just give it a try, and see which you prefer. Thanks for watching. Cheers. /Paul

[@lachlanc.3509]

How is performance of the device with new/mint records? Most of my collection is in really good condition (inherited most of it from albums that were hardly played) pressed in Japan/Uk/Germany. However they are dusty and have mold release from when they are first made. It is worth getting the machine if my records are mostly clean to begin with?

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi! Sounds as an amazing collection. If it's only dust on the record, you don't need more than a carbon fiber brush to clean them. Mold release is a separate discussion. But I fall in the group of people that don't believe it exist as an extra layer on the record. So how much can this record cleaning machine help. It's in part dependent on your sound system. But in general I was surprised how much a high frequency ultrasonic cleaning can improve the sound of an already clean record. Improvements in every area. Hope this helps a little. Cheers. /Paul

[@recordmass6298]

Hello, reading the reviews and that study they did, in the end does ultra sonic cleaning erode the LP over time or does it not? Because frankly, just the thought of valuable records becoming eroded and damaged overtime is not en enticing idea to be honest. Thanks

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi! Have you seen the video I did on Ultrasonic Record Cleaning? It discusses the 5 biggest myths. One of them is the likelyhood of the implosion of ultrasonic bubbles eroding the surface of the vinyl record. I think it will answer your question in great detail. Cheers. /Paul

[@recordmass6298]

@@XjunkieNL Hello and thanks for the video. I watched it, and forgive my ignorance, but what I got out of it (the 'noril' experiment/study and similar conditions) is that, yes, it could be or who can guarantee that if that happened to a similar material it won´t happen over time with PVC records. (To risky in the long run of a chance I would say) However, I don´t know if I was missing something, or if I didn´t get the sarcasm/irony of the "myth". Regards

[@XjunkieNL]

You got exactly my point. Who can guarantee or prove it doesn't happen to vinyl? No irony. /Paul

[@recordmass6298]

@@XjunkieNL Uffff, So there you have it...I think personally then that it's not really that much of a good idea then (keeping in mind both the "unknown" effect in the long run + the very high pricing of these machines)..I think (for me at least) the wisest is to wait more time and see the effects (possible negative effects...) (We all asbestos xD) Cheers, thanks for your time Paul.

[@XjunkieNL]

On the other hand I would like to temp you to try it out. Maybe you know someone who has an ultrasonic record cleaner. A vinyl record you really dig, but easy can get a second copy, and clean it ultrasonically. The results can be really good. /Paul

[@lauher21]

Hi just got mine, how do I change filter?

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi. Congratulations! You got the best cleaning machine in the world. One awesome machine. It is easy to change the filter. Best to look in the manual, it has clear pictures how to change the filter. Cheers. /Paul

[@hernandezduarte4741]

Hello Paul, I recently purchased the Degritter and have had it for about a week. I noticed that when I received it it was cosmetically damaged. I worked it out with the company and have continued to test it with their permission. I have noticed that when I put in a dusty second hand record (which was probably on the light side of dirty) the machine does not lift off all of the light dust even after 3 heavy cycles. The first cycle I did with the solution in the tank and the 2nd and 3rd with distilled water only. I never expected the machine to lift off scuffs or fingerprints. But I did expect the machine to take off light dust that I was able to brush off with an anti static brush and blow off with a bottle air tank, I was even able to blow off some of the light dust that remained by blowing on it with my mouth. I know you have been using the machine for some years and would like to know if that has also been your experience. Maybe my machine is just not working properly. Thank you

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Hernandez. Sorry to hear your unit is not working properly. I would not be surprised if the ultrasonic transducers are not functioning. Now, when you start a cleaning cycle, you are just rotating the records in the water and drying them, no real cleaning is taking place. During a degas cycle you can hear if the ultrasonics are working, although I can imagine it is hard to recognize if you don't know what to listen for. It's a kind of buzzing sound, but the rotating mechanism is also making noise during degassing. As an alternative you could open the left side of the unit and check if the electronics that operate the ultrasonic sonics are still okay. I can imagine they got damaged during transport. Anyway it's best to contact Taniel at Degritter, he is more than willing to help you sort this out. Good luck. Cheers. /Paul.

[@hernandezduarte4741]

@@XjunkieNL Thank you Paul. As always you have been very helpful. Im enjoying watching all of your very informative content. Keep up the good work.

[@XjunkieNL]

Thanks! Always nice to hear the videos are helpful. Hope things get sorted out quickly. And you can start enjoying this awesome machine. /Paul

[@JurongStrangler]

Hi Paul, where did you get that pece of piping? And what's the size? Thanks!

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi! The honest answer is, out of the tool box of my dad :) They are originally made, to make holes in leather. The size depends a little on the material you want to cut. For example I use a 12mm pipe to make a 10mm hole. Are you also going to make your own filters? Cheers. /Paul

[@JurongStrangler]

Thanks Paul, just thinking about it. I have not even started using as my degritter has yet to arrive. Anyway, thanks for the tips in the vid!

[@XjunkieNL]

@@JurongStrangler Exciting times. Enjoy cleaning your records :)

[@anton88ist]

An inherent limitation with the Degritter is that you can not access and clean-out the ultrasonic tank. If you use the device to clean really filthy records, some of the debris will collect in the tank; the filter is not that effective and over-time a sludge will form. Periodic cleaning with Vinegar will only do so much. But, at the end of the day, the dirtier the record that is cleaned by the Degritter, the more maintenance (tank & filter cleaning) you should do. Degritter probably should better address this issue, same as auto manuals state when to change oil, that depending on use, i.e., how dirty are the records you are cleaning (are they flea-market, are they used but clean (DISCOGS); or are they new) your maintenance tasks vary from maybe as frequent as every 20-25-records for flea-market; or every 35-records for used but visibly clean or for just new records as long every 50 records to cover themselves. Otherwise they risk putting themselves out of business with customer support and warranty claims.

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Peter. Thanks for the comment. It's possible to clean the ultrasonic tank. Although the opening is not big enough to put in your hands. My personal experience is that cleaning it seems not necessary, most probably because of the shape of the ultrasonic tank. The inside has the shape of a record, with the drain is at the bottom. All the dirt that collects on the bottom is drained out when the ultrasonic tank is emptied. The filter inside catches the dirt before the water is moved the water reservoir. For sure with very dirty records it's better to clean the water reservoir more often. But like with the oil in your car, there seems to be a big safety margin. Cheers. /Paul

[@miguelbarrio]

What is your full cleaning process? Thank you.

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Miguel. Full cleaning process is quite simple. For a very dirty I start with a pre clean with a cosmetic pad (see my other video). Next is the final step with the Degritter. Usually I use the medium setting. The record comes out clean and ready to play. Thanks for watching. Cheers. /Paul

[@miguelbarrio]

@@XjunkieNL Thank you. Do you add anything to the distilled water?

[@XjunkieNL]

In general I add 50 ml isopropyl alcohol to the distilled water in the tank. /Paul

[@miguelbarrio]

@@XjunkieNL Thank you. Love the channel.

[@XjunkieNL]

Always nice to hear. Thanks!

[@GregNichols1953]

The Degritter manual FAQ states this about shellac and lacquer-acetate records: “We have not conclusively tested cleaning shellac or lacquer-acetate records with Degritter. If you do clean one, then do so on your own responsibility”. Which seems odd… it’s really built for 12” LPs, but they have inserts that allow cleaning of 7” and 10” records. Does anyone know if its safe with such records?

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi. Thanks for watching and the question. Unfortunately I have no experience with shellac or acetate records. During beta testing I mainly focussen on 12 inch records. Do you know if there any experience using ultrasonic record cleaning with these kind of records? I would imagine similar results should be possible with the Degritter as the intensity of the bubble implosion is much less and more distributed. Sorry for not being able to be more helpful. Cheers. /Paul

[@GregNichols1953]

@@XjunkieNL Thanks, Paul. Actually the topic is pretty much covered in the Comments section of kzbin.info/www/bejne/goOqh5ihfNaUiNE. Generally good to go. Regards, Greg

[@XjunkieNL]

Thanks for the feedback. Great to see it's save to clean those records also. The Degritter team give great customer support.

[@chewingcheung]

Do you still recommend this cleaner since ultrasonic cleaners damage the vinyl record?

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi! Yes, I still do. Main reason is the great efficiency of this ultrasonic record cleaner. This makes short cleaning times possible, which limits the possible chances of damaging the vinyl. With the setting at medium, the active cleaning time is approx 3 minutes, and the record comes out clean. Thanks for the comment. Cheers. /Paul

[@chewingcheung]

Thank you. I have been wanting to get this cleaner until I watched your other video. Great tips and video's.

[@XjunkieNL]

It's a fantastic record cleaner. Especially if you're lazy like me. There is no way back :) /Paul

[@rickmilam413]

I've done a lot of testing with different cleaning solutions in the machine. The Degritter is the worst solution I've used. At the recommended strength it leaves a veiled, murky sound on the record. I've tested this several times. Fortunately it does rinse. I also feel compelled to mention that inhaling it has a really bad effect on me. I have severe allergies and COPD so it may not bother most but for me standing over the machine caused severe heart palpitations and shortness of breath. Like breathing lacquer fumes. At a minimum I recommend a fan blowing it away from you...

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Rick. Thanks for sharing your experience. I haven't experienced any side effects from using the standard Degritter solution myself. In my standard mix I don't use it often. Most often I use alcohol instead. Although those fumes are also not the best to inhale. What are you using know as a cleaning agent? Cheers. /Paul

[@rickmilam413]

@@XjunkieNL I've been experimenting with a number of things. Just alcohol does work pretty well as you said. It also doesn't seem to affect me much. I'm currently trying the A.I. ultrasonic solution for use in the tank, Tegrikleen applied to the vinyl with a fine spray and goat hair cosmetic brush, and the Kirmuss solution, same application. On things that have previously been cleaned on the Kirmuss I've found that just a distilled water rinse opens things up nicely. In all cases (except that one, of course) I finish with a rinse from a 2nd tank. Oh forgot the one I'm using at the moment - L'art du Son, applied like the Tegrikleen and rinsed. It seems quite good. On brand new stuff where mold release agent is an issue I begin with a Nitty Gritty First step on a vacuum machine.

[@XjunkieNL]

On my DIY Loricraft cleaning machine I used the L'art du Son solution. Was happy with the results, but haven't tried it with the ultrasonic unit. Perhaps you have already seen it, the new prototype of the Degritter can hold two water tanks. Especially for people who finish with a rinse step. /Paul

[@rickmilam413]

@@XjunkieNL I've the the L'Art on and off. I like it. I use it with the Degritter as a spray/brush on treatment rather than in the tank. Hadn't heard about the new one but I have 3 tanks and swap out for rinsing. I'm not sure which I prefer re it of the Tegrikleen. It's so damn hard to make judgments on some of this stuff. I need a half dozen copies of the same LP in the exact same condition.

[@dieselophile]

How do you reset the counter?

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi! Not sure if it is possible. I haven't found a way to do it. The counter to clean the filter, resets automatically. Cheer. /Paul

[@dieselophile]

I’m sure there’s a secret menu 😀

[@XjunkieNL]

Unfortunately a well kept secret ;) /Paul

[@dieselophile]

I hope degritter come up with a simpler cleaner, that just offers ultrasonic cleaning without all the other bells and whistles … like solution filtration, drying etc. It would be cheaper and have fewer things that can go wrong with wear and tear.

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi again. I see your point. Maybe if they sell enough units, the price will come down. As you wrote, if they use the basic technology of the Degritter, a basic version could be an option. Would be great if more people could use this technology. As the unit gets records very clean. Thanks for the comment. Cheers. /Paul

[@cesarvanderveen122]

Knosti now makes a cheaper more simple ultrasonic cleaner which still has a water filtration, it might be a good alternative.

[@XjunkieNL]

@@cesarvanderveen122 Hi Cesar. It is great to see this name entering the ultrasonic cleaner market. The latest news is Degritter will not make a basic unit, but a more deluxe model. So a cheaper model by Knosti is welcome in the market. Haven't seen it yet. Are you tempted to purchase it? Cheers. /Paul

[@dandevvers]

I’d love one of these but sadly I can’t afford it. The cynic inside me says the price is due to audiophile markup and is unjustified ..... but I might just be jealous 🥺 I’ll probably get a vacuum based cleaner and deal with the odd pop and click.

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Daniel. I know what you mean. Maybe if they sell enough units, the price will drop. Maybe it's helpful to calculate the price per record :) To remove pops and clicks any wet cleaning method will be successful. Ultrasonic cleaning is more about improving the sound quality. Cheers. /Paul

[@hulkhatepunybanner]

*It's not jealousy. The price cannot be justified. It's a limited use device and I've yet to see a video that shows a dirty record being cleaned. The Estonian company needs to outsource manufacturing to another EU nation with a larger labor force to bring the price down.*

[@XjunkieNL]

I understand what you're saying. Although I think the company had a different look at the project. They wanted to engineer and build the best record cleaner on the market. They did almost the whole thing in-house from design to production. This gave them complete control over the process. If they outsourced more and used standard components the whole thing would be cheaper. But this would have resulted in compromises they didn't want to make. Thanks for watching. Cheers. /Paul

[@hulkhatepunybanner]

@@XjunkieNL *The unit price is $3,000. It sells to a market of [mostly] Boomers + serves a medium with limited sales. The Estonians likely know they're selling this to a small market of Boomers (maybe Gen X'ers) so they're going to keep it niche. It allows them to make a lot of money from a small production. But that price will keep them from expanding their customer base and that will end their business. Maybe they expect this as it seems their website hasn't been updated in a couple of years.*

[@XjunkieNL]

As long as no other competition enters the market, they have found a nice niche. Probably the market isn't big enough to develop a low cost unit. As you're getting in competition with DIY units.

[@mark.harding]

Manufacturer says not to use alcohol as it can degrade components in the machine...

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Mark. I checked with the manufacturer and they approve the use of alcohol. Maybe you have some old information. I know other brands use components that are affected by alcohol. During the design of the Degritter special attention was paid to the materials, so it can handle an alcohol based cleaning solution. Cheers. /Paul

[@mark.harding]

@@XjunkieNL Oh, that's great to know as I've avoided using alcohol for now... thank you.

[@XjunkieNL]

No problem. Success cleaning those records :) /Paul

[@nattyco]

This costs £2450. Let's have a blind comparison between this and a £140 ultrasonic cleaner. I don't think you will hear any difference and with the money saved you could buy a fabulous turntable.

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi. You're absolutely right, it is an expensive piece of equipment. I haven't done a blind test, but just looking at the technical specifications I'm sure it will give better results. Just look at the power output, the number of transducers used, the position of the transducers, the operation of the frequency. All directed to get better cleaning results. The question remains, is it worth the extra costs. That is something everybody should decide for themselves. Thanks for watching. Have a nice weekend. /Paul

[@ianaintsaying1625]

$3K!?!? In your dreams.

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Ian. It's fun how the prize of this thing divides people in two groups. One saying H*ll No, and the other F*ck Yeah :) Maybe in time there will come a stripped down version available that is more affordable. Cheers. /Paul

[@miketomlin6040]

Why not just buy clean records? This sounds noisy! Like many machines. If someone could design a quiet one, big money!!

[@XjunkieNL]

Hi Mike. Yeah, that would solve things. But part of the fun is digging for records in dirty spots :) The maximum noise level of the machine is at 70 dB. As a reference when people talk to each other the level is at 80 dB. Have a good weekend. Cheers. /Paul

[@lolicats]

The worst thing about this machine (apart from the price lol) is label damage from water. Happened quite a few times and you only see it under the strong halogen but it's there! Tiny discolored spots from water drops that shouldn't have been there.

[@XjunkieNL]

Hahah, yeah a price drop would be welcome. Myself haven't noticed water droplets on the label. This during cleaning or after drying. Is this something you see everytime? What water level have you set in the software? Thanks for watching and the comment. Cheers. /Paul

[@tictocfinewatches]

I have only once in over 600 records cleaned gotten water on the label and that's when I first started using it. Degritter provides a strip and you can set your water level depending on how far the strip is from the edge of the record to the label. Once you do that you shouldn't be getting water on your labels. Also, I find that using the cleaning solution that comes with the Degritter increases the surface tension of the water so that it doesn't run down on the label as the record turns.