Wade is manipulating Ember to fall in love with him and I can PROVE IT! sub 4 🍦
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@i.s.94518 ай бұрын
It was noted that, when Fire Town was established, all water pipes were shut down. Therefore, the shop doesn't need up-to-code pipes. In fact, the City should be responsible for enforcing the removal of the pipes and sealing the leak.
@she-dwarf8 ай бұрын
OMG, you're right!
@maximoesco8 ай бұрын
woooooAhhh, thats so crazy honestly makes wade seem even more suspicious
@Spazy9128 ай бұрын
How did ember not pick up on this
@Justarandomcatholic7 ай бұрын
Bros on to something
@kirannkornat77616 ай бұрын
@@maximoescodoesnt make wade suspicious it makes the city stupid and useless because theyre the ones trying to close the store
@doubt20228 ай бұрын
i'm not even sure if this is a result of bad writing or this is what writters actually had in mind, because this theory works so well it's scary
@maximoesco8 ай бұрын
it honestly scared me too, as I watched the movie with this theory in mind I didn’t expect it to align so well to be honest
@huzaimizuhri84825 ай бұрын
Nobody: Literally Nobody: God for Literally No Reason: Let's help this random man for absolutely no Reason
@onemoreweirdo2075 ай бұрын
Right? Usually I watch theories for the fun of it, might consider them as headcanon if they are interesting and realistic enough, but they don't stand too well most of the time. This one really does.
@LolaGirl2575 ай бұрын
I refuse to believe this hole-heartedly. I had to think about it for a bit and it does sort of add up but i dont think it's completely factual
@tobytheproanimations44115 ай бұрын
@@LolaGirl257 yeah, there are some holes in the theory, too like how at the fact near the beginning of the video where he says that Wade couldn’t fake empathy because he shows his true emotions, but then near the end of the video he starts to talk about how Wade was mostly faking his emotions the entire time completely contradicting what he said
@niconico4868 ай бұрын
Honestly, I agree. Wade kinda only says the right things at the right time. Crashing her celebration was selfish
@toddpieper73224 ай бұрын
Idk being connected on a deep level, your partner sees things you don't see. They know you better than you know yourself sometimes. He could see she didn't want to run the shop and didn't want her to waste her talents. It obviously wasn't good for her since it caused her to have a mental explosion after working it for what seems like a few minutes. With art, you can be explosive and with customer service you cannot be.
@naintham58494 ай бұрын
i cringed so hard at that scene.
@_ThatCandyGirl_4 ай бұрын
@@naintham5849 Me too.
@prehistoricorchid34554 ай бұрын
crashing her celebration made me so mad tbh
@_ThatCandyGirl_4 ай бұрын
@@prehistoricorchid3455 Me too.
@kobeginige19327 ай бұрын
alright so how about we discuss an important part. Wade litterally got thrown into a random girl's family basement and immediately started writing a health inspector ticket for the plumbing, and runs off despite ember trying to explain. but when wade puts his ticket through the pipe, and ember breaks down and cries, he says "wELl WhY dIDnT yOu sAY sO?" like bro what?? she did try and explain??
@FNAFpanda4 ай бұрын
Another point of him gaslighting her
@Quaaysan4 ай бұрын
Real eyes realize real lies. I concur.
@insertcreativityhere77472 ай бұрын
Damn yeah
@kobeginige193219 күн бұрын
@@Quaaysan bars
@kobeginige193219 күн бұрын
@@FNAFpanda haha cuz fire
@EmileAnimation8 ай бұрын
one thing i hate about water guy is how he tells her to quits his job, even though she always wanted her job
@maximoesco8 ай бұрын
i know right, in the beginning of the movie she REALLY wanted to own the shop.
@Princess_of_cute8 ай бұрын
I think, that, while he shouldn't have pressed her into it, sometimes you think you want something especially when you're young and want to make your parents happy, till you see new paths for you, you never thought were there before. I wanted to become a midwife and then realized, that that's not for me. My mom wanted to become one at some point and probably, something in me wanted to make her proud, but that's just not what I want.
@Cactuse6065 ай бұрын
You are correct but Wade is raise from a rich family and he could quit his job and not care which thats where he differ from Ember
@lasercraft325 ай бұрын
Isn't the whole point that she _thought_ she wanted the job, but she only did because that's what her parents wanted? You can chase after something your whole life, only to realize that it isn't actually fulfilling to you once you have it. It happens.
@RealWorldSpeech-wq3hy4 ай бұрын
@@lasercraft32 Yes that's the point.
@probably_creek5 ай бұрын
i always felt kinda weird about the way wade acted and this actually helped me connect the dots. he is straight up manipulative and i wish the writers went with that, and had him be a twist villain or something. it wouldnt align totally with "disney values" or the whole message theyre trying (and failing) to send with this film but it would make more sense and feel better.
@maximoesco5 ай бұрын
honestly could’ve been great, Frozen is a prime example of that. Hans was such a plot twist character and people loved that movie. Could’ve been the same with Wade
@MeemahSN4 ай бұрын
@@maximoesco Hans was poorly executed though
@callumfinlayson-palmer83934 ай бұрын
@@maximoesco people like frozen despite the hans twist not because of it.
@Qwer-teaBinch4 ай бұрын
I had the same uncanny feeling. Like, yeah this is nice but seriously...WHO ARE YOU? It just feels like that whole first and worst experience.
@justice87184 ай бұрын
@@maximoesco Hans was really badly written in that movie.
@jocone-14 ай бұрын
Honestly, the idea that wade could be secretly a bad person makes this movie more interesting, like the idea that the movie was suppose to be a romance movie turns into a toxic relationship and subverting the views expectation of what they were expecting is more interesting then the movie we got.
@bluecrossfire23754 ай бұрын
It would of been a good twist and it would of been a good lesson too, people want romance but it can blind them from seeing the red flags
@Kuffkuff624 ай бұрын
@@bluecrossfire2375and it can also blind you from your dreams. You can tell she wants to run the shop but the whole time Wade kind of spoils the idea and makes it seem more miserable than it actually is to her.
@theoverseer17754 ай бұрын
If they made him a twist villain this would probably be the first good Disney twist villain in years
@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx3 ай бұрын
It’s true!
@thangfahsavung91203 ай бұрын
For real. A new unique way of presenting the villain not as “taking over the world” evil but “manipulating everyday stuff” evil. Would make kids recognize that bad people in real life may not harm others physically, but mentally. Yeah, that friendly-looking average Joe doesn’t commit murder, but he manipulates and seeks control over his girlfriend.
@justnotterxo2 ай бұрын
AND it would be nice to have a Disney movie where the two MCs don't always end up together. Toxic relationships are a thing. This would be perfect rep of that.
@xXmlgamingXx3552 ай бұрын
@@thangfahsavung9120so mother Gothel, basically?
@TrashBunnysChannel5 ай бұрын
missed opportunity to make wade the nice looking water guy the vilain, and maybe one of his siblings picks up on that and actually helps amber and so she stops seeing wade and wade shows his true colors
@maximoesco5 ай бұрын
this actually could’ve been extremely interesting
@TrashBunnysChannel5 ай бұрын
@@maximoesco a way to show that people might seem pleasant but only to get to you and that even if they are family, that sort of behavior is not excusiable, like maybe his mom excuses his behavior but the rest are either neutral or against Wade
@kowhaifan12495 ай бұрын
Remember the stupid and random twist villian in frozen? It would be kinda like that.
@chaoticcow43575 ай бұрын
@@kowhaifan1249 No, Hans isn't like that because there was NOTHING previous to the end that would even suggest he was going to kill her like this, it was also at the end, meanwhile the meeting with Wade's family wasn't. This'd be way, way more well built than Hans as we the audience actually see Wade and Ember interact because the entire movie is about them after all. It allows audiences to pick apart previous interactions, meanwhile Frozen didn't allow that at all. Hans got tangled in a boat with Anna, did a little bit of singing, literally went after Anna (which yeah you could say "oh he did it to kill her sister!" but he most definitely didn't need to do that, he could've just sent a squad and then once it warmed continued oceanic trade), and then out of no where tries to kill her.
@kowhaifan12495 ай бұрын
@chaoticcow4357 honestly when me and my mum watched this movie it really seemed like he was genuinely just a complete idiot, I ain't seeing him acting manipulative he just seems to not think before he speaks/acts. At worst he is a inconsiderate buffoon.
@Readspiraloyster4 ай бұрын
Personally I think this is just a case of the writers not knowing how to portray what they were trying to portray properly so it came across as manipulative whenever they meant for him to be genuine Not that I don't like a good dark theory
@Amanecer4584 ай бұрын
Or you just don’t understand the most simple emotion
@Readspiraloyster4 ай бұрын
@@Amanecer458 I doubt that (Due to reasons I'm not getting into I'm not the most socially adept but I know basic enough emotions that I can tell that the film riders most likely just screwed up on writing the characters which happens a lot nowadays)
@Chiwowza4 ай бұрын
I always thought it was really pushy and bizarre for him to show up unannounced to her ceremony, proclaim his love for her in front of everyone, and then pressure her to admit she loves him back. He's never met anyone in her family or community besides her mom and has no idea what the ramifications for her could be. He's clearly aware of societal prejudice yet never considers that her family could not only refuse to give her the shop, but outright disown her. Regardless of whether she truly wanted to own the shop, it struck me as insanely manipulative of him to ruin it for her
@BisManTheBisMan2 ай бұрын
Yeah that scene gives Mordecai ruining Muscle Man's wedding vibes.
@southparkfirefly8 ай бұрын
Gaslighting is also a pun~ Ya know because of the fire/cooking thing? o3o
@maximoesco8 ай бұрын
hahah i didn’t even think about that
@tristanthesus84186 ай бұрын
He is going to become the second matpat-
@ShadowPenguin5 ай бұрын
Or Theorizer
@leebulger71124 ай бұрын
Matpat is going to give the channels in good hands.
@meria20824 ай бұрын
“I don’t know, maybe I’m just overthinking” reminds me of “but that’s just a theory. A game theory!”
@stereo-soulsoundsystem50704 ай бұрын
I misread that and thought you meant matpat was manipulative
@GamerNik34 ай бұрын
Matpat... :(
@humbleebumblee7 ай бұрын
wow that detail of his face looking disappointed then quickly putting on a facade after the phone call bit was very nicely caught!
@RosheenQuynh4 ай бұрын
I dunno, I think it's clearly to tease Ember, make it seem like Gale declined at first but his smile gives the good news away
@Dab-studios4 ай бұрын
Elemental: a sweet movie about peace between all races (at the end I think?) Theroists: NAH ITS TIME WE GET TO THEORISING NOW MANIPULATION IS IN THE MOVIE Disney and Pixar: here we go again
@kronost064 ай бұрын
Manipulation, especially when a woman is involved, it's now sexist.
@gyrosik88514 ай бұрын
A bunch of other romcoms have some tropes that come of as manipulative or toxic, sometimes you don't see it and other might see those things
@fuckakakaka4 ай бұрын
nah wade is an asshole.
@Mr.MonoKumaSparkles4 ай бұрын
There’s always been something kinda off about Wade. How he just randomly shows up at the perfect times, and he’s just really odd in general to me.
@Bloody_Ingenious2 ай бұрын
The movie clearly tries to depict an interracial, loving couple but MAN, they failed so damn bad that their story is perceived as a toxic manipulative one.
@avaemberrose4 ай бұрын
I don’t see him as this innocent guy anymore but a threat, holy crap he doesn’t even look the same anymore, this is how people fall for bad people and we didn’t even resize were supporting it
@ozzytres39144 ай бұрын
*realize we were
@user-jp4oi1xm8h8 ай бұрын
I formulated this theory when I watched it for the first time I was like “you Idiot he just told your entire family about how you were touching eachother and now your gonna be forced to live with him or your life is ruined”
@Ariste_4 ай бұрын
When i saw the title i was like yeah yeah everything has a stupid secret meaning nowadays. But this one works so well i mean terrifyingly well. It actually might be intended.
@lunamoona49204 ай бұрын
This just shows how much this movie needed better writing
@Kuffkuff624 ай бұрын
That's crazy af. Instead of letting everything happen on its own and just helping out of the kindness of his heart, he basically manipulated every situation. Obv that's not true in the movie, but in real life this would definitely be suspicious behavior 😭
@Bloody_Ingenious2 ай бұрын
What's even scarier is how subtle it is. I didn't pick any of the signs when I watched it.
@damian93034 ай бұрын
I couldn’t help but to feel that way when he pretty much put her on blast during what was supposed to be a family ceremony for inheriting the store
@Princess_of_cute8 ай бұрын
The theorie is good, but I still think there are some things not right. (Disclaimer: this is not meant hateful, just some counterarguments... it got too long, I'm sorry...) 1. Wade writing the ticket. It could be a master plan... or his job? He also couldn't have just left it that way, because he needs that job and if it came out, he was there, and he didn't tell anyone about the violations, he'd have been in a lot of trouble. 2. Wade doesn't let Ember plead her case. Maybe he sabotaged, or, he saw the way she wanted to handle it and thought, maybe it would help if it were sincerer, if some very important and personal details were shared. Was it his place to share these details? No, but it probably worked for him most of the time, so he tried to help the way he is used to doing stuff like this. He also didn't know that Ember has an anger management issue. A point that can work for your theory, as just coincidentally, he was lucky she had it, or he didn't think, that she would react that way and still only had in mind to help. 3. The two passes and the way he happened to have left them at his workplace, where Ember happened to be. Chances are, they are a gift from Gale, so he could go too. They are a workplace gift and the second card would be for anyone he would like to take along or if he would like to see another game. He left them there, because he forgot them there and the game was that day, and she happened to be there. The reason he mentions it, is because he wants her to know, he's not stalking her... perhaps. 4. His impressing skills. That's just who he is. That's why he acted so weird at point two. He is sentimental and is deeply interested in people, because he knows that sometimes, it's hard to deal with emotions. I mean, he bursts at any given moment, he probably had his dark times because of it too. 5. He is the man of the plan. His job is literally this. He was the one inspecting the pipes and the leak the first time around, so who else is supposed to make a plan. Ember? Perhaps Gale, but the whole point was, that they are supposed to fix the issue, not her. 6. First one to spot the hole? He was the one paying the most attention at the moment they flew over it. 7. The one with "punched in the face by beauty" could hint at him not wanting it to be fixed, or he is actually in awe of it, the only evidence against it, I could bring, is, that it only works for people watching it in English, but what is that supposed to say? The original is English. 8. The part where he is inviting her up. What else should he have done, instead of invite her up? The call was still going to come, and he didn't know when that would be. He could have left her outside, but that's, in my opinion, worse than invite her up. He also didn't pressure her, he told her, his family is there, would she like to wait with him on the call upstairs for the time being and she agreed. He didn't put her worries aside in a neglectful way, but just tried to make her comfortable and worry less for the time it might still take till the call would come, and he didn't just surprise her with his family, he warned her beforehand. 9. The face is also a bit taken without further context. Perhaps it was, how you said, him realizing now there is an end to it. Actually, though, that look on his face was there as the call started and was the same one Ember had. It was worry about what Gale would say and that kept on, because she sounded unhappy first about the glass. His expression immediately changed after the phone called ended, and he was happy with Ember, that they had made it. I actually can relate to this, because that's how I feel after a good phone call. 10. There is context missing towards him coming along her, when she leaves. For some reason, she sees an opportunity that was given to her as something bad, while talking about it in a good way and instead of explaining why she feels that way, she tries to run from the argument and from her emotions, and he wanted to get behind it. That led to her actually saying out loud, that she realizes now, that she doesn't want to work in the shop. It's been something that was expected from her, or that's how she felt. Her father always wanted her to keep up the work in the shop, and she never questioned it, since it seemed like the only option to her, but it's not. She's seen it. 11. I would agree with your point with: it's Embers flame and so on, but actually, he did use his own fire. He did use her light, but it was prism heat that was used. He could have used any light, hers was close and made much more sense, since it was about them. 12. Love bombing. Again, not much proof. The movie isn't able to be long enough to actually show them outside when they meet up. The reason we don't see him work, the reason we see Ember work more, is because the main focus is on her and then what's between her and Wade. Also, that's how dates work, you meet up, and you try to see if you work with each other and that includes giving the other attention and love. 13. If he were the gaslighting type of guy, he would have done that all along, he left her to her opinions and the way he flipped there, wasn't him insulting her, it's him frustrated, that she is so easy to throw anything away that is good for her, because she is scared to disappoint her dad. He is also not gaslighting her into quitting, especially not "the entire movie". It was her who confessed that she doesn't even want to work there for the rest of her life. I would get if you were to say, he is gaslighting her into working on the job his mom suggested, but not even that is the truth. He is not wanting her to quit because it what was suggested, but because it's what she wants to do. 14. The passive aggressiveness is confusing. 15. The glass cracking could be Wade, or it's more of a symbol of her emotions getting fragile and then they burst. but idk
@maximoesco8 ай бұрын
That was very interesting and fun to read. With every theory there’s always gonna be a counter argument and I don’t think thats hateful (I appreciate you clarifying that as well) Beside that though you countered most every single point pretty well. I know i shouldn’t praise you for that under my theory video but taking the time to do that and providing pretty much a whole other theory is really awesome! Thank you for watching and sharing that , I cant lie i agree with some points but as the theory maker I can’t say which ones..
@Princess_of_cute8 ай бұрын
@@maximoesco I have to thank you, for reading it and for the interesting theory, even if I don't necessarily agree with it. You're doing great, keep it up!
@Gavs_Playlist97555 ай бұрын
How world the class cracking be wade?
@zitronenconnor53475 ай бұрын
Not reading allat
@zitronenconnor53475 ай бұрын
(i did)
@ijustwatchvideosandleaveco10044 ай бұрын
Another thing that made me feel weird about wade was him walking back to his office, completely chill and unbothered with the fact that he’s about to put a family business out despite balling his eyes out over it a few minutes ago
@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx3 ай бұрын
Fr tho…
@rachelisverycoo4 ай бұрын
Even while watching the movie I was questioning why Wayne wasn’t doing his job and the entire interruption of the ceromony. This theory makes sm sense.
@somerandomname31246 ай бұрын
Dude, this theory is just *chefs kiss.* I never knew Wade from Elemental, the guy who spent the whole movie crying was the manipulative seagma male icon we all needed. What a legend.
@nuggs44495 ай бұрын
Seagma 💀
@sleep1705 ай бұрын
you mean smegma? 🍆 🧀
@happuhelon5 ай бұрын
@@nuggs4449what even is seagma😭😭
@Firebrace5 ай бұрын
@@happuhelon Someone who is presumably worse than Alphaqua males in every percievable way, according to their podcasts.
@kowhaifan12495 ай бұрын
Smegma macho idol
@stray12392 ай бұрын
I bet more people watched this video than the actual movie
@IronheartvsMiles29 күн бұрын
Clown.
@Serena-ki8ey4 ай бұрын
When the writing is so mid people start making a theory out of it💀 Jokes aside, this theory actually makes sense. Idk if it’s because I just didn’t like Wade from the start or nah, but either way it’s pretty good, so props to you!
@Adam-3268 ай бұрын
6:18 *Sweet Home Alabama intensifies* But I don’t want this to ruin my impression of Wade lmao. Good theory, though.
@2u29wjiowk2iswj8 ай бұрын
I don't understand. It's not incest with yourself lol. please tell me what you mean
@Adam-3268 ай бұрын
@@2u29wjiowk2iswjSiblings share about 50% of the same DNA, inherited from their parents. Identical twins share almost 100% of the same DNA. I meant that if it works for two strangers, then it would also work for siblings, based on what he said.
@2u29wjiowk2iswj8 ай бұрын
@@Adam-326 So wade and ember are siblings :0
@Yetta_6 ай бұрын
@@2u29wjiowk2iswjI think it’s reflecting her self love
@tfisinsurance4 ай бұрын
After I watched this movie, I was like ”Oh my gosh, what a fantastic true love story, they’re ment to date”, and when I saw the title of the video I was like ”What the heck?!”, but after I watched this… Wade, you jerk.
@user-lp1qg3if3b4 ай бұрын
I thought the love ritual was suspicious due to the fact that Wade uses Ember’s flame.
@jonaszrybarczyk22274 ай бұрын
The only nitpick with your theory I have is that matchmaking scene. If the similar dna can cause the flames to loop, then there is a high chance that embers mother was actually finding incest relationships. I would rather think it was emotional, because the other option is really unsettling.
@jelysanchezcarrillo17904 ай бұрын
YESSSSSS finally someone else sees it!!! i hated him so much making her choose between her childhood dream and him, like yeah, she's good at glass making but she didn't show interest in it ONCE before she met wade, and then all of a sudden he's pushing glass making down her throat? like he deadass starts manipulating her saying: i know what's best for you and this is what you want, let me save you and take you with my people. He gave white saviour complex the whole movieee
@Maryfilmsoficial4 ай бұрын
I used to think that this guy looked so much like my boyfriend and I looked so much like amber.... We broke up
@user-fp1gk9yz4x4 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Wade's mom was originally meant to be the villain
@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx3 ай бұрын
Dang
@t.o.toonstubetwo.41388 ай бұрын
Can you please do a theory on why Sandy Cheeks wear fake skin and why people called her naked in someone’s in the kitchen with sandy
@cradica8 ай бұрын
That episode traumatized me as a kid!
@sando66658 ай бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who seen some of this but 70% what you said also blew my mind lol, Also keep up the great work bro, absolutely loving your content!!!
@maximoesco8 ай бұрын
haha i’m glad other people seen it too, i really appreciate it dude, thank you!!
@mariajosec.m23615 ай бұрын
Wade cry because of what happened to his father and the first thing he sees is a photo of a happy family
@Eggs_the_great4 ай бұрын
You’re right
@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx3 ай бұрын
It’s true, but less fun😂
@udontsubugay868 ай бұрын
Can you look more into the episode of peppa pig when they went to the zoo? It’s like the peppa pig universe has some sort of society where theres division between the animals.
@maximoesco8 ай бұрын
hmm that’s actually really interesting, I can’t promise but If i get some time I might look into that!
@elizrebezilmadommdo16624 ай бұрын
good idea
@cyberbeautygiselle74134 ай бұрын
And wasn't it strange how there was two predators as the zookeepers in that episode, they were even hinted of potentially eating Madame Gazelle....
@sagespice4 ай бұрын
I was rewatching the movie with this in mind, and I just noticed that Wade knows Ember's name before she tells him? Like when you pointed out how she didn't get to properly plead her case, Wade makes her burst by saying "But the main thing is that if her father can’t retire, it will all be Ember’s f-“ WHICH I looked all over the movie, but there isn't really a sign for him to have picked up her name beforehand? I doubt he would've been to firetown before, and this only supports the theory that this wasn't a truly 'accidental' meeting. It seemed he knew exactly what to do. Ember didn't know his name, but he did. Maybe Wade's known about Ember long before the events of the movie.. and it's sort of disturbing to thing about. Manipulation, and possibly stalking.
@storylover28452 ай бұрын
I think you're onto something here with the stalking
@caitphobia3 ай бұрын
i don’t think this theory works if you put it into context, the last thing for example is she says she loves him then boom he comes back and he’s perfectly fine, he didn’t know he could just come back, he came back bc what she was saying was making him cry, at this point the whole family knows he has to cry to come back so a whole lot is said to make him keep crying so he keeps dripping from the walls, he wasn’t just boom bang back like it was his own choice
@caitphobia3 ай бұрын
and he was only angry because he knew what she wanted, that might sound strange but even the audience knew what she truly wanted and she never wanted to work in the shop forever, he’s frustrated like the audience because she’s not being true to herself she won’t admit the truth to herself and he knows that’ll lead to her living a life for her father rather than living a life for yourself and that stresses him out because he loves her and wants her to do what she knows is best for herself
@frostbitetheannunakiiceind65747 ай бұрын
Ok, but Wade died for her. He evaporated himself not knowing that he would survive it. I feel like a true manipulator would've dipped once the situation was no longer in their own best interest, but Wade stayed with her till the end, because he (and I can't stress this enough) literally DIED (albeit temporarily) to save her and her family airlume
@mangledfoxy20525 ай бұрын
Maybe he started off manipulative and fell for her by the end? Idk that’s the only thing I can think of that fits the theory Edit: Wade was still there enough for her to make him cry. Maybe if Ember didn’t/couldn’t save him, he might’ve been able to make himself cry, and “reform” that way
@anonymousanon11295 ай бұрын
That's what manipulators do. He knew he would survive. He's water. They do things to make you like them. Water can't die and no way he didn’t know that. How do you think cloud people exist?
@GamerMage2k-kl4iq5 ай бұрын
…Ah
@sammy_sand_utubeyt69015 ай бұрын
@@anonymousanon1129I mean, he was(and still is) scared of sponges, so theoretically he could also be scared of the pores in the walls. Although I guess you can view it as he views manipulating her in the future as more important than his fears, or something else
@user-yj7hh6fm6h5 ай бұрын
Also its not like Ember liked her job.
@Konkubinanr18106 ай бұрын
Yeah idk, this relationship was sweet to me, yet you got a point I mean i dont think that he planned this but he behaves awful towards her
@danielwendingoxd35876 ай бұрын
5:33 I believe this is mostly the classic gag of looking sad at first but then actually being happy
@somebodykares15 ай бұрын
4:04 wait is the whole crew waterfolk? Are they not like able to just squeeze out of the gap in the cement? We know that all the elements can shape shift so how are they stuck?
@NightmareRex64 ай бұрын
plot convienence, maby something to do with concrete mixes with water? like how got stuck in sponge?
@somebodykares14 ай бұрын
@@NightmareRex6 I can understand the sponge, but like they are not fully turned into concrete so they should be able to shapeshift out, it is shown later that they can split their bodies apart for Wade delivers himself in 5 separate vases, so they don't need every part of their being to live it just be more convenient for them to have all of it.
@mirkohoble4 ай бұрын
This movie is full of those plot wholes, fire people can control their flames, but suddenly they can't, water people can control the water around them, but they can't when it's most needed, etc.
@FrebbinsIsh-yn7xv4 ай бұрын
the ticket wasnt the pipes it was embers dad LITTERALLY MADE THE SHOP WITHOUT ANY PERMISSION he had every reason too write the letter
@AreesDaOG3 ай бұрын
Disney:*makes a movie that isn't dark* Fans:"Fine. I'll do it myself." Jokes aside it'd be cool to see some sort of plot based around this
@lilliesinthegard324 ай бұрын
Nah, in the movie they make it clear that Wade comes from a privileged rich family thats full of love and openess of expression so his view of the world its very different from Amber's. He is very vulnerable from their first meeting and is not ashamed of anything he feels and wants so he goes after it and constantly pushes her to do the same, with his mistake being that he didnt take into account that her culture and life and family is so different from him. Its comes off as selfish because he is ignorant and too much of a optimist dreamer. He is not exactly manipulative, just a privileged man in his own bubble.But he learns and listens and learns even more for her eventually.
@CoolManSwag.5 ай бұрын
I watched this movie 74 times and never really thought of this, although I did question some things like Wade not letting Ember really give her case, or Wade having 2 tickets for an un-explained reason, though my best explanation for that is just he got the tickets to go with someone, maybe family, or a friend, but then they cancelled, and although one could argue he could've just given the ticket to Gale, I don't think that makes much sense because we don't know when Gale bought her ticket, so I think using Wade randomly having 2 tickets as evidence is a bit of a stretch but I could see how that could definitely support your argument, and there is a lot of other, better evidence in this video than "Oh, he has 2 tickets." Another argument I think could be explained away is Wade giving the shop a ticket. Wade says during the crying scene that he needs this job and he's lost so many, so he could be trying to do his job well so he can keep it, there's never any context for the state of his job.
@Mr.MonoKumaSparkles4 ай бұрын
…Do you mean 74 literally or are you just saying you watched it a lot?
@CoolManSwag.4 ай бұрын
@@Mr.MonoKumaSparkles Literally, I get that question a lot.
@reidgardner69794 ай бұрын
Like the idea that it started as manipulation, but also he thought he would die for good at the end. I don’t think he planned that OR the glass breaking. I’m pretty sure he planned up until Ember’s “coronation,” then went from there.
@birthdayboyblam79004 ай бұрын
Bro just dropped the hardest fucking theory ever, On the movie with sentient elements.
@skullboy54094 ай бұрын
“Which allowed him to escape through her pipes” 💀
@Vic-mj4ts4 ай бұрын
Theu finally make a twist villian we wouldve liked, marketed in a way that wouldve kept the surprise, and NO TWISTS 😭😭😭😭
@nnapop44422 ай бұрын
Wats crazy is that when ember and wade first met in the basement they never introduce themselves so it doesn't make sense on how wade knows embers name when he was confronting that tree guy about her issues
@GamerMage2k-kl4iq5 ай бұрын
While I’m not sure about this theory, there is a lot of evidence that does work for it overall. It does not fully explain Wade being willing to die for Amber unless you argue he knew he would just evaporate ahead of time.
@Markus2E5I64 ай бұрын
To be fair, its a bit ridiculous to think no water person has ever evaporated before Wade. He probably heard tales of it happening before (because in this world water people are a separate race and probably have their own cultures and tales). He probably know about water adaptability because what happens to him in winter?
@Toshineko2 ай бұрын
Saying “You tried your best” is manipulation apparently
@rineo33543 ай бұрын
Wait we are missing like a ton of dialogue here Wade express that he has to write a ticket bc it's not the first time he sucks at a job and he really needs to do his job Wade also really pleaded for amber and her cause Bc it's actually amber's anger that made her so unfriendly And why he wrote the ticket and had to flee Having to track the water leak is just because the tickets in this world is valid It isn't legal If you wanna fix it discreetly and forget about illegal stuff You have to get your hands dirty He was love struck It's clicher he is just trying to get the girl he got intrigue by lol two flames with the same dna? wtf is this~ So what sisters are gonna have true love smoke ??? Amber could disappoint someone else by favouring making someone else happy(her dad) Wade helping to save the shop meant if amber really wanted to be in the shop, her dad would unban Wade and they would also be fine So it's really not about that lol Stuff is rushed but not manipulated by wade
@juliett9253 ай бұрын
I agree I love the movie. I’m autistic and it made me SUPER happy to watch hehe ❤ I love wade and ember
@ranasuka60064 ай бұрын
It makes me wonder. With this level of detail it just seems so intentional by the writers. Like you said they almost wrote the theory for you. But what is this movie trying to say? The manipulative parts, while obvious when you highlight it, were too obscured for young, inexperienced audiences to pick up on and it was displayed as a happy ending love story. So young people might just end up thinking that this is what a healthy relationship looks like.
@fuckakakaka4 ай бұрын
maybe the women who worked on the movie wrote from their past romances and just didn't realize they got manipulated lol
@user-tn6ph3ve3u4 ай бұрын
Bro thinks disney is this smart💀
@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx3 ай бұрын
Bro….mabey he was stalking her through the pipes but her temper bursted the pipes he was stalking in her….
@acorn70494 ай бұрын
this makes me realise how badly ive been manipulated HELP
@lovelydawl4 ай бұрын
Dude i am genuinely terrified of wade. (agua)
@nilefuller51694 ай бұрын
Take it from me...water can be very manipulative 😒
@WhoAmIHmmm4 ай бұрын
Man, the disney writers really screwed it up this time...
@TheArtOfBeingANerd4 ай бұрын
Good theory to make up for terrible writing! Love stuff like this
@citruscarnival3 ай бұрын
This.... is a fantastic theory and i completely bought it having never thought of it before
@ElizabethUkeh8 ай бұрын
You're on to something 😅
@maximoesco8 ай бұрын
🤫
@Eggs_the_great4 ай бұрын
Am I the only one completely confused on how these points were made?? Did we watch the same Pixar film?!?!
@Eggs_the_great4 ай бұрын
5:02 the main thing that bothers me is that he said ember was freaked out, are we going to ignore that weird love-vision thing she had in her eye??
@Eggs_the_great4 ай бұрын
I just feel like there was a lot of slander of wade’s part which makes me a bit sad, I’m open for further convincing I just feel kinda lost
@Dumbaxxi4 ай бұрын
Nice pfp
@Eggs_the_great3 ай бұрын
@@Dumbaxxi thank you
@paxet.4 ай бұрын
this video was crazy to watch and im seeing it so clearly now great theory dude
@maximoesco4 ай бұрын
thanks so much paxet ! :D
@naintham58494 ай бұрын
oh, that explains why there was something about him that bugged me the whole , movie. It does makes me recal my EX to be honest. Of course the most emotional person, would know all about how to make others feel the way they want.
@97ponchito4 ай бұрын
I'm not much of a critical thinker, but thanks for the free movie summary
@mastercharlesdiltardino80588 ай бұрын
All is fair in love and war
@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx3 ай бұрын
You mean all is fair in love and water😂
@user-yz2oz4zk7s5 ай бұрын
AGUA, Also I never realized that until I watched this- Wowers 🤠
@havenmods4 ай бұрын
4:24 IM SORRY BUT AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT OF MOIST CRITIKAL AT THIS MOMENT LMAO
@SpiceHoundG4 ай бұрын
LOLLL
@HK47_1153 ай бұрын
Very interesting theory. Literally the only thing that makes it crumble is the simple and obvious fact that the creator of the film literally said it's based on him and his wife's love story. Edit: I should probably say I don't mean this as a disd. I say it's obvious but it's obvious to those who know. But in case nobody else out there even knows this, but this is literally based on the original creators experience with his wife and his parents. The original creator, which is a man, basically wrote Ember and put a little bit of himself within it while also wanting to make this creative stories based on elements. Meaning his wife with a basically been in water dudes place. I'm already forgetting this name. I will say that this feels like the equivalent of a film theory from matpat. Again I don't need this as a diss. The theory was an absolute flop or just straight up wrong. Because I'm not going to lie, I can just enjoy a good theory even though I know there's no merit to it. But, just knowing why it was created I know for a fact there's no merit to this.
@disguisedpuppy4 ай бұрын
this new matpat is ember!
@thekingofgreen17654 ай бұрын
OR just hear me out here, it had to happen so the movie happens andthey really are a good guy and anything pointing otherwise is an error+
@wolfiesama39004 ай бұрын
I’m genuinely surprised and a bit scared by how well this theory works
@zeta94432 ай бұрын
Bro, I literally thought the same thing about Wade. In the Amber family party, I though wow this dude is really egoistic. You have to ruin all the relationships Amber has for your stupid love. And before in the scene out of the train, Wade said Amber was a coward wow that was backstabbing.
@leah34354 ай бұрын
wade is like so ew he literally has a savior complex
@voided95932 күн бұрын
6:26 Also I’m pretty sure that thing about “If the smoke swirls together it’s true love” is true it’s probably just a part of Fire culture or religion
@ChillwithKenАй бұрын
Ngl you blew me with this one, like you got it back to back like I don’t see how he acts so crybaby then be so manipulative
@Ifaeya6 ай бұрын
You're not overthinking. You're right.
@gingermaniac54844 ай бұрын
sorry, can someone please explain to me how "fine im coming with you" is manipulative? it to me sounds supportive?
@Jroobelucios3 ай бұрын
“If you don’t stay with me, I’ll follow you so I never have to leave your side… I can’t live without you, and if you won’t stay here, I’ll just have to come with you.” Soooo supportive! 😊
@gingermaniac54843 ай бұрын
@@Jroobeluciosdude. why are you being passive aggressive? it was a genuine question, preteen behaviour.
@aguyontheinternet84364 ай бұрын
I dub this a better name, Yandere Wade theory. It make the logistics of the true love scene irrelevant, as Wade falling in love with her would be the thing kicking off all this, so the candles would show them in love with each other either way.
@user-jh5dq9vc1v4 ай бұрын
Seems like creators of this movie either wrote from their experience (unaware of true implications), or revealed their true manipulative nature without even acknowledging it. Either way, the state of modern western culture is quite sad.
@namelessnavnls80604 ай бұрын
I'm gonna have to remember this theory the next time someone tells me what a cute couple these two are. Don't get me wrong. I kinda like them, but it is disturbing how convincing and believable this theory is. 💀 I mean Wade said that (5:01) shit JUST SO HE COULD WIN A GAME AND MAKE HER CRY. Like, if he was being genuine and sweet, he should've told her that in PRIVATE. Not in front of his whole-ass family!!
@ricaroanimar66953 ай бұрын
well to be fair the entire family plays that game. So he'd be jused to that but yeah no they absolutely should stop playing that fucked up game.
@meggee9ANIMS4 ай бұрын
it honestly makes so much sense tbh
@Maxwell_Twist3 ай бұрын
You know, I think this theory actually improves the movie. The "racism against immigrants" narrative fell really flat for me since, unlike in real life, if an immigrant touches me, I don't have a chance of suddenly bursting into flames or having my house burn down. These are physical things that are literally a part of them that are dangerous for others and they can't change them.
@maxcraftobjectssituated55193 ай бұрын
The thing is, this is more of wade being more oblivious as he is supposed to represent, well, the stereotypical white guy, he is simply just saying unrelated things at convenient times
@YesMyNameIsJohan5 ай бұрын
this theory makes no sense in my mind, i dont understand how you can make such an innocent guy sus and a playboy
@RosheenQuynh4 ай бұрын
Yeah... 😓
@Skycrusher4 ай бұрын
Yeah like, imagine feeling threatened by an animated character so badly you throw shade at them. This Maximo Esco is a real "nice guy creep" type, you better act the way he wants and never get in his way or else.
@Bloody_Ingenious3 ай бұрын
You'd be surprised how good of an actor some people are...
@user-nt4sx4kg9g4 ай бұрын
Is bro pissing on ember in the thimbnail 💀
@Mr.Ice7775 ай бұрын
U R AN GENIUS AND A DETECTIVE
@gamerziplays61816 ай бұрын
I like how everything this dude says is so stupid and crazy that it makes you believe him
@maximoesco6 ай бұрын
the power of an overthinker
@CUPTIDEАй бұрын
7:27 BRO THIS BROKE IT FOR ME, yes I have been agreeing with you the whole video, but THIS PART MADE ME SO CONVINCED. Either Wade was written by a manipulative person, or he just IS manipulative. Like wow.. Tbh makes me wanna fully watch the movie.
@ThebigFry3 ай бұрын
I suspect he was maybe stalking her and was in the pipes to listen in on her to learn more about her, but when she explodes he is exposed and has the city inspector job so when he is found he can use that to manipulate her. He is very emotional so he woudnt be the type to potentially get shops and FAMILY shops closed, so as a back up to when is is found out he can write a ticket to do all this
@Indigital9996 ай бұрын
i just thought after clicking on this "wade vs spongebob"
@watchthechaoswind96074 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think this theory is reaching a bit, and only using evidence that supports it. But this is a well put together video. Would have loved a bit more mania lol
@doggycatalan2 ай бұрын
I thought I was crazy for absolutely HATING Wade by the end of the movie, I just had this gut feeling that something was wrong. I'm so glad someone else gets it.
@discordfun18 ай бұрын
Honestly it kinda makes sense but nah bruh,..that's not the case