The Coraline Slave Theory

Are other father and other wybie created by other mother or are they originally from somewhere else?
As we know the other world In Coraline is a very mysterious and scary world that has stirred up theories for a total of 13 years. While most people are focused on the cat, coraline never escaping, beldams transformation, and the bugs. I think people are overlooking something else.. the other father and other wybie.

[@Sima_.]

I’ve just realized something too. I’ve always wondered why the other Wybie wore a mask over his head right before saving Coraline from inside that mirror. It’s probably so the other mother wouldn’t be able to “see” through his button eyes and foil his plan PS, I think the other Miss Spink & Forcible say “thief” instead of “please”

[@maximoesco]

oh no i think u might be right… i don’t know what my ears were doing haha thank u for correcting me

[@nervshmrv1245]

Yes pretty sure they say thief@@maximoesco

[@Zachman229]

It jus got more attention, it pulled my attention

[@LoopBuddy]

Right! You're smart! ✨

[@Aj_The_Potato_Cat]

Oh! I’m not the only one who herd theif? Nice 👍

[@gwen8925]

The Belldam made other father and other Wybie. Other father is a pumpkin and other Wybie is probably a doll stuffed with sand. My theory of why these two are specifically more helpful to Coraline is because those two were modeled after people who cared for her. Obviously Coraline’s dad loves her and Wybie wants to be Coraline’s friend. The others are essentially strangers. Maybe when the other mother made other father and other Wybie they gained some affection for Coraline that the real life versions hold for her.

[@scootinkermie]

The classic "created to do something I don't enjoy plotline" an oldy but a goody

[@Snitchrollyyyu]

Its not sand

[@I.have.acat123]

He’s not stuffed he is sand with clothes when he gets coralline out his hand blows away

[@hsandco9560]

Maybe the real reason that other wybie was muted was BECAUSE he told the cat about the other world, and the other mother punished him by removing his voice.

[@IActuallyHateBees]

Maybe..

[@El_Edits-x.o.x.o]

yes

[@johnroberts524]

The cat already knew about the other world lol also if the cat wasn’t aware of the other world then he wouldn’t even meet other wybie

[@owencheung4224]

@@johnroberts524 maybe the cat already knew half of the it, and other Wybie shared more details

[@freedompancakes301]

I’m so glad people are still so passionate about this movie. It’s so amazing, beautiful, fun, and terrifying at the same time. I absolutely love the aesthetic of this movie, and the theories behind it.

[@maximoesco]

i really couldn’t agree with u more, coraline is such a beautifully crafted movie

[@QueSeraSeraaaa]

The movie still stand out to these days. ^^

[@jollyrancher8727]

I think the power that the Beldam sucked out of the kid's souls leaked into her creations. There were 3 kids, yet only 2 of Other Mother's creations displayed free will. Wybie showed the most free will, and Other Father showed a little less. No others showed free will. So I'm thinking, the longer the children's soul was trapped in that world, the less willpower they had. Kinda like being in prison, you lose sense of who you are and you lose faith in the chances of ever getting out. So Grandma's missing twin sister couldve very well have taken over Wybie (would make sense too because theyre of the same blood). The small boy couldve been within the Other Father. He'd been in the other world for a long time, but not nearly as long as the pioneer girl. Lets face it, after a few hundred years in that cold damp room, Id give up hope too. I dont think a normal human can survive being in her world for long since we conform to certain rules of reality. That'd take a huge toll on Other Mother to keep them alive as well as herself. She would also need to continue keeping them alive for an unknown amount of time because theres no telling when the next meal will come. Grandma was clearly very elderly when Coraline arrived, so it mustve been decades of no food for Beldam. Starvation makes one rush and so she mightve been unable to keep 100% control of her puppets. I think they were made of the same sand she filled in the spying doll too which could be made from souls.

[@maximoesco]

woaaah u just blew my mind

[@Aj_The_Potato_Cat]

Omg the matpat level theorist is here…. Omg wow

[@They_Luhv_Fire_The_Fire_Demon]

Building on your theory, I would propose that the Beldam's inability to fully control her creations could also be a result of the children's souls fighting back against her influence. In both the movie and the book, we see that Coraline is able to resist the Beldam's manipulations and ultimately outsmart her. This suggests that there is a strong willpower within the children that the Beldam cannot fully suppress. Additionally, in the book, it is mentioned that the Beldam feeds on the souls of children in order to sustain herself. This constant need for sustenance could further weaken her control over her creations, as she is constantly draining their energy to survive. Furthermore, the fact that the other father and other mother display varying levels of free will could be attributed to the amount of time they have spent in the other world. The longer they have been trapped there, the more their souls have been drained and the weaker their willpower becomes.

[@Demurelittledemon]

just think, with your logic the spy doll would be sentient as well, just completely helpless...

[@alexochioa]

Based on the book (not movie) the 3 kids bodies were repurposed as the dad and the 2 ladies (1 boy & 2 girl souls) "nothing can be created, only altered "

[@calelkestifer3570]

I honestly believe the Beldam could lure in adults. I think she prefers children because they are more dense in life energy, but that she might accept an adult if it suits her needs or if she needs a quick meal that's easy to convince. It's harder to say no if you've seen more of the horrors of the world than a child has. I think she avoids late teens like the plague though, since they're so often rebellious just for the sake of it and she craves control. The other thing I think is that if she could shape a child to look like another child, then why couldn't she shape a child to look like an adult? This would explain why it was so easy for Other Father to tap into Coraline's childlike sensibilities in a way her real father tries but ultimately fails to.

[@eren9055]

she definitely could because she got coraline's parents

[@BubblegumL]

Other theories suggested that Wybie and the Other Father are more conscious and moral due to having more 'soul sand' (I'm sure you've come upon this theory before) However, your theory makes much more sense in them actually being empathetic and forced to do the other mothers bidding. The video was made beautifully and had valid points, no 3 hour regurgitated theories. Love it!

[@maximoesco]

Bubblegum ur way too nice, i can’t tell you how much i appreciate everything you just said. Your comment was beautifully made :D

[@gamingdestruction2918]

The other dad sings a song to tell her to get out of here and never return. Then when they talk about the button eyes, he says so sharp you won't feel a thing. Like he trying to scare her to make her not say yes, when coraline rejects he has a massive grin, and he decided to fight back and give her the eye while apologising... he's been trying to help her..

[@valenciageode25]

I’ve seen a similar idea to this before, in reference to the book. The Beldam took three children before Coraline encountered her, two girls and a boy. The human characters are two women and one man, Wybie excluded because he’s not in the book. This theory suggested the humanoids were made from the bodies of the past kids. I think I favor this slave theory for the movie.

[@Miss_Anatomy]

The last part is confirmed, Adults CAN get trapped in the other world, We know from the ghost children that the dolls are her eyes. (Coraline never really took the doll outside so it doesnt know what the world outside looks like except from the pink palace and thats why its all white and empty, Anyways.) And coraline found dolls of her parents under their bed, Its a sign that the beldam spied on them and planned to take them too.

[@RubyRedS1ippers]

Bro pls make more coraline theories this was soo good I hope it gets more attention you deserve it♥️

[@maximoesco]

i really cant tell you how much that means to me, thank you so much ruby! hopefully my brain can think of another one haha

[@gerard7417]

​@@maximoescomake more please

[@AnthonyPoole246]

The way that I see it, the, 'Other' characters have ran on this sand like substance that is the thing that gives them life (such as when we see the mice turn to rats, sawdust comes out of them and even Other Wybie has sawdust as a hand at one point) What this tells me is that the more amount of sawdust is used on a figure, the more life they have, the more life they have, the more freewill they have. And because Other Father and Other Wybie are KEY people in Coraline's life, they require the most sawdust in order to maintain and have that emotional connection. I mean, with this logic then Bobinski, Spink, and Forcible should've all gotten equal amounts since Coraline knows them personally but they're not. Only Rats and Taffy. So in short, the sawdust that the Beldam uses is the one that gives these characters life and the more life put into the character, the more freewill they have

[@lukehannah4554]

When me and my friend were in primary school, I asked the question about how The Other Father and Other Wybie had a lot more free will than the other copies. My friend suggested that when the Beldam created them, she gave them too much power of free will to think and do things on their own. And if I’m correct in the novel, there’s a mention of how the other copies were made from soul sand something like that. Which is weird cuz I’ve only read the graphic novel and there was no mention of that

[@scrambled5948]

The beldam luring an adult into the other world would definitely make for a different movie 😳😳😳

[@Riceplucker]

Ayo what

[@scrambled5948]

@@Riceplucker I mean She’s got the hips for it 😏

[@7ero_n_a_a]

It could also be the stronger her pawns' minds are, the stronger the toll is to keep them alive as her power drains because, for example, maybe that is why YB’s was the first to disintegrate. The other father was seemingly already deteriorating mentally as well. The stronger the consciousness probably makes it easier for them to rebel, and maybe since the beldam knew Coraline would interact with them more, it made it so they were naturally good.

[@April-r6s]

Also near the middle/end of the movie when coraline escapes (just leaves the world before coming back) her parents aren't there. She later finds a doll of her parents, one side her dad the other her mom. This leads me to believe that they also got lured in like Coraline did and eventually got placed into the mirror. If you don't remember, they are essentially freezing in the mirror. If Coraline didn't save them I believe that they would freeze and then the Beldam would turn into another one of these "soul people" in the other world.

[@smallgay6000]

Great theory but I’m pretty certain Wybie is a child...? He is never shown as an adult. So I’m not sure how/why Other Mother would be using him like she’s using Other Father instead of just eating his soul like the other children’s. Wybie is most definitely supposed to be a child. He talks like one, is the about same height as Coraline, and still has to be home at a certain time because he lives with his grandmother.

[@maximoesco]

wybie from the real world is a child yes, but in the other world every person there aren’t the real people. They are all being transformed to look as if they are people from coralines life. So what i’m saying is other wybie is an adult who is being transformed to look exactly like wybie. The other mother can make anything and everything look different to portray the world and vision she wants. Thank you for ur input and kind words i appreciate you, hopefully what I said made sense:D

[@alandoyle1077]

Only 7 likes? Never seen something more underrated

[@maximoesco]

i appreciate you so much

[@alandoyle1077]

@@maximoesco Ty I’m a fan of your theory’s, I am a new fan but I’m still happy that I made you happy and I appreciate that you said that :)

[@Bombiedude.]

I think the scene where the other father is chasing coraline on his mantis tractor really gets me on edge a tiny bit because after he smashed the hole in the bridge he threw the ghost eye to coraline which was actually the shift stick so he was deffinatelly the true hero here

[@maximoesco]

other dad saved coraline if u really think about it, definitely the true hero

[@Bombiedude.]

exactly

[@Bombiedude.]

and it also makes sense the beldam uses a praying mantis as a robot/vehicle because mantises in real life are known to really hold on to their meal when eating it and she did the same when she built the robot one when she was having the other father control it because he was forced to catch coraline with the mantis arms and probably serve it as the beldams lunch or whatever

[@BooWho-kw6eg]

The witch seemed rather maticulous in her work. Especially after having practice with the other three children. I always interpreted other wybie & father as being made to care so much, due to how well she can copy life. They'd go against her will to fulfill their purpose they still have hearts but she molded them. She uses their souls to maintain her creations since before the kids she likely started with the house only. Eventually getting to the neighbors, garden if she had two more souls im sure she would have reached past the well. She's not lazy but simply cant sustain her youth creations and living beings all at once stretches her too thin. Neat theory though i did enjoy it just my perspective is all 🎉

[@NadyatheWitch]

I have thought that it was just the “essence” or idea that the beldam is drawing from to create other wybie and her other dad was just so pure and kind in their love/care for coraline that no matter how evil the beldam is, she can’t overpower it completely

[@HairSaves]

The directors confirmed that idea in interviews years ago. The Other Mother made the other father to be genuine friends and guardians over her. She simply didn't forsee they would be able to help her.

[@BREKsend8710]

At the piano scene, I always thought the piano hands were good, and the father was bad💀

[@dianaqa3390]

Super interesting! I love how you produced this, it kept me wanting to watch more of this content. I love Coraline!!

[@maximoesco]

Thank you so much that means a lot to me. I love Coraline too such a masterpiece of a movie!

[@Luc-Sist_07]

Good theory. Very good editing.

[@maximoesco]

thank you so much :D

[@ellah6194]

Interesting perspective! I think out of all the videos I've seen, this one has a thorough and deep speculation of why other Wybie is like that, perhaps other mother mirrored other father and other Wybie a bit too much like the real versions so they started developing characteristics and empathy of the real versions. I love your videos!

[@FruitOfTheFold]

i always though there was something wrong with other wybie and father, they both always seemed more 'nice' and tried to help her, they being human makes a lot of sense, also, he always starving and trying to eat like its his last time, not knowing when he will get the chance again

[@A.B.-ub9un]

I do personally believe that the Beldams creations are the bodies of the previous kids, hence why they have a eye of them and why they turn grey when said eye is taken.

[@maximoesco]

oh wowww i didn’t think of it that way, if that is true though do u think other wybie may have had an eye too? Like maybe the kids soul other wybie is possessed by is just to far gone? i don’t know thats a good theory though thanks for sharing!!

[@A.B.-ub9un]

@@maximoesco In the book, one of the kids who was a victim of the Beldam was a fairy, who, in the movie, was replaced by Wybie's great-aunt. This does spark some theories that Wybie himself is a fairy, or is a descendant of one. I do think that the Beldam had more victims in the movie compared to the book, since we see a photo of a boy and a girl who look nothing like the ghost children. In fact, I do think the boy painting could actually be one of the older victims. I do think all of the creations we see were the bodies of the Beldam's previous victims, and it's easy to tell by lookin at their designs. I do think in the movie, the Other Wybie was the body of the real Wybie's great-aunt, since they're related. The Other Father is the boy who calls Coraline "Mistress", due to the similar hair style. And the screaming girl could very well be the Other Miss Spink and Miss Forcible, since it's revealed they were actually one being split into two.

[@A.B.-ub9un]

@@maximoesco And a thought that just occured to me: Perhaps the Other Wybie DID have a eye, but was forced to give it to the Other Bobinski, hence why his body is slowly fading away and why his clothes hanged from outside the mouse/rat circus.

[@justwaiting5744]

I'd like to hear more. I've never heard this specific theory before. Never.

[@Papyrus_Basket]

This is actually a really good theory video and I feel like you brought something new to the conversation surrounding this movie😎

[@maximoesco]

thank you so so much that means a lot

[@MadmanRapsGaming]

You are not reaching bro this makes so much sense! I watched it yesterday in the theater and I was thinking the same things! Great vid

[@rae9526]

She did take Coraline’s mom and take pretty easy. Maybe when she’s done with the kids she takes their parents too?

[@StevenLopez-wh9rq]

Did yall know when the father well punkin father after he said too much like "only one key" he said"scrish swash I'm sorry"

[@megan9403]

This is such an interesting theory, please do more coraline videos if you can!

[@maximoesco]

thank you!! i’ll definitely try just gotta get the brain working ⚙️

[@catt8792]

omg i love this theory this is so underrated 🫶🏻

[@maximoesco]

thank you catt!!!!

[@fynchan11]

To tell the truth if I found doors leading to perfect world where my all house animals are alive, friends never stabbed me in the back, wasn't bullied and the most important: dad would be still alive.......hell I would take the buttons and I'm an adult

[@maximoesco]

im so sorry to hear all of that :(, a part of me probably would take them too…

[@MargieElleSmith]

your theories are amazing and really make me rethink everything lol! keep up the great work!! ❤

[@YouBastards49]

Like how you think! Haven't heard this viewpoint in great detail. Can't wait to hear your other theories

[@maximoesco]

Thank you so much!! Can’t wait for you to see more :D

[@helenblanco6967]

Has anyone wonder why the beldam locked her in the mirror knowing she can find out the truth?

[@rosezelecki1756]

Good theory. Scary thought!

[@maximoesco]

thank u so much rose 👻🧟‍♀️

[@Roninboyzz]

She’s already trapped. She has no allies, not even the cat.

[@KiddoFord-jy9xx]

Man your theories are THE BEEEEEEEESSSSSST 🤩🤩❤️

[@maximoesco]

u really think so :), thank you so much kiddo

[@emrycro1779]

1:14 the fact you put a censor there is crazy

[@maximoesco]

them things cant be shown on here 😳

[@AineMc-ss6cr]

The reason why she wouldn't bring an adult to her world. Is because they are not easy to manipulate.!

[@quick7591]

id watch 100 of these types of videos

[@maximoesco]

oh yea…. 💡

[@awesomegirls10]

This was very good! Thanks for the ✨content✨

[@maximoesco]

You’re so welcome thank you so much for the kind words :D

[@AdventurousLondyn]

I like how you censored the scene where Miss spink and Miss forcible were singing because of her… you know

[@Live_in_Peace2010]

Great theroy I’m subbing

[@kalegolas]

Wybie dont exist in the book but I think the other father, other spink and other forcible is the earlier kids corpses who for a long time have been used as puppets of the Beldam and have been more and more destroyed buy it with time. In the books it seems based on the ghosts words that the boy have been dead longer than the others and the plausible boy corpse (in the book) is way more destroyed than the girls.

[@Jinbustu]

I just finished watching coralline the 3rd time and now this is here…

[@maximoesco]

they’re watching you…

[@Enio2414]

Nice theory👍

[@maximoesco]

thank u so much enio

[@timeofthewhoviansunited1504]

Great vid :D

[@maximoesco]

thank u so much :DD

[@thechumbucket_]

W vid

[@maximoesco]

W human , thank you bro i really appreciate it :D

[@mag9604]

7:50 no way you're being serious bro

[@maximoesco]

👀

[@Kitty-01447]

It's not that far fetched, have you seen the type decisions adults make irl?

[@wolffang2202]

The buttons and thought of taking a needle to one's eyes freaks me out beldam could create any fantasy and as long as this is the cost to keep it I'd always say no.

[@MyScreenTimeIs8Hours]

I can’t believe this movie is as old as me 😭

[@studiocatt6756]

I get really annoyed when i see the same theory over and over again but this is really creative and well explained *you have earned a new subscriber

[@maximoesco]

that makes me really happy to hear! thank you so so much :D

[@SleepyLuigi]

These theories are so interesting. I haven’t seen the movie in years though-

[@Samlikeskpop]

Besides the story why did I read the title as “The Cocaine Slave Theory.”LMFAOO😭😭😭

[@KimUrzendowski]

hi max hope you are doing good

[@maximoesco]

hi kim! im doing pretty good, hope ur good as well

[@idk22895]

I like how this movie is still having theories to this day

[@saekoraven2496]

I like that yb Being silent Is funny cause the cat can talk At least in the other world

[@LOADEDPISTOL]

I believe it I always felt that there was something different with the dad and wybie as they both try to help her

[@dreamingjack0lantern]

You can hear the father trying to resist murdering coraline he said as a demon:I’m sorry! I’m so sorry! Mother.. making me

[@snoophusmcdoofus]

I agree that other Wybie and other Father are real souls, and I think they’ve been there for a long time because; 1- The cat said to Coraline about the place not being a dream come true because “other Wybie told me so” Why would the cat need other Wybie to tell him anything? The cat has been there for years as the Beldam has “been trying to get me for years” as he says. This leads me to think that other Wybie has been there for ages just not as other Wybie and as the original soul. That leads me onto my next speculation: 2(a) Due to this we can assume that the Beldam fashioned the original two souls into other Wybie and other father just for coraline right? Wrong. While I think this is true in the case of the father since he came to the pink palace with Coraline, I think a key point in noting is that the Beldam made other Wybie silent. She muted him before he could even speak to her- yes we could attribute this to what he said to the cat but I think that would not have been enough. 2(b) I think that the soul in other Wybie was given Wybie’s form by the Beldam before Coraline’s arrival. A key theory that I agree with is that Wybie’s grandmother purposefully sold Coraline’s family the house so that she could save Wybie. I don’t think the only entrance to the other world is in the pink palace, I think it’s highly likely that the well is one too. A well Wybie seems interested in- he told Coraline about the myths about how if you go down deep enough you can see a sky full of stars in the middle of the night. I think that Wybie’s grandmother not only sold the house as an attempt to save Wybie but as part of a deal with the Beldam- (This will link back to other Wybie I promise I just have to explain something else first) 3: I think that in the grandmother’s worry for Wybie, hoping that he would not befall the same fate as her late sister, the grandmother made a deal with the Beldam to sell the house to the next family with a child that wanted to buy. Sure maybe it could have been just an attempt only on the Grandmother’s side with not interaction with the Beldam EXCEPT, her little sister’s doll. In the very FIRST SCENE we see in the movie the doll floats through a window to the Beldam. The little spy. Why hadn’t the Beldam called it back already? Why had she not fashioned it into a doll for Wybie and tried to take him? Because his grandmother still had it. The only thing left of her sister. And I think that’s the means she made the deal through. I think she figured out what happened to her sister long ago somehow and sought to stop it happening to anyone else, until Wybie was born. Her grandson. And the Beldam was getting hungry. I think the deal was made so that when the Beldam was ready for a snack and Wybie’s grandmother had found a potential buyer, the grandmother would send back the doll ready to fashion into the doll of the next child the Beldam would eat. And where was that new Coraline doll found according to his letter? IN HIS GRANDMA’S TRUNK! It was purposeful. 4- Now my final point is that The other mother in the time she was growing hungry, waiting for the Grandmother to secure a family with a child to sell to so that she could eat, grew bitter that she could not have Wybie. I know this is a long shot but hear me out. I think even though not a long time before but still before Coraline’s Arrival, the Beldam fashioned the original trapped soul into other Wybie out of spite or hunger or just for fun. She was playing with her food in a way. The food she couldn’t eat. Now FINALLY I think the reason that Wybie was not allowed to talk was because the Beldam was also still spying on real Wybie even while he was with Coraline. And that’s when Wybie started to talk about what his own grandmother told him he “wasn’t supposed to talk about” - The fact that the pink palace was dangerous and that before Coraline his grandmother wouldn’t sell to anyone else with kids. The Beldam may have been influenced by hearing this from real Wybie, she couldn’t afford the other Wybie to spill anything more especially when he had a track record for telling the cat about how the world was not a dream come true. And since she was trying to create the perfect world to entice Coraline, she couldn’t let the one Coraline hear’s this from be other Wybie as this may have lead her to think back on what real Wybie has said (not knowing that they’re two completely different people entirely and not parallel versions of one another) Ok that’s it.

[@sedi2066]

Theres a theory or maybe just my understanding that Other Father and Other Wybie appear to help or have free will as a manipulation tactic... i also personally think they are all extensions of the Beldam as opposed to seperate entities. I feel like shes interwoven into everything in the other world because sometimes objects like the paino and furniture move .... almost as if the whole of the other world is a living thing. Also the portal from the door in coralines world and the other world looks alive .... lmao idk maybe im tripping

[@Zordyn]

7:17 you just made this movie so much easier to stomach holy shit

[@thatoneperson-_-]

Honestly other wybie and the other father they were my favorites they didn't need to die😭

[@MaotuanziMaotuanzi]

I mean... You do have a point here man. Since the other mother could directly kidnap Coraline's true parents in the movie. Imagine what would happen to them if Coraline failed to save them.

[@marquishalsell]

It's strange because when she went to check the door to see if the other world was real without the mice waking her up and the bricks were gone I believe as she kept going to that portal of the world everything got mashed in together she was even able to see the abandoned ghosts turn into angels after she freed them so this had something to do with physical spiritual and mental experiences

[@sevith5277]

To be fair, she lured Coraline’s parents to the other world. In the time Coraline was sleeping she replaced the Coraline doll with a doll of her parents. Think about it, when Coraline goes home the groceries on the table are rotten, time had past. Coraline slept in the other world. Her parents would have come home and been horrified not to find her. Then they probably where lured to the other world to find Coraline. Heck the other mother may have even turned into Coraline to lure them through the door like she did to Coraline. Also, Coraline seemingly goes to sleep and wakes up home. Either the other mother had the ability to send her home or she sent her through the door and easier her memories. Or maybe the whole thing is a lie she never escaped. Blah blah blah blah.

[@Adam-326]

Sorry for this, but the word you wanted to use is *inhuman* and not *inhumane* … About the Beldam, though, there’s just one thing that doesn’t make sense. Since Coraline doesn’t really like any other the other residents of the house, why would the Beldam go through all the trouble of recreating them? She manipulated Wybie ostensibly because Coraline found him annoying (which, if you think about it, is really cruel) and only created a portion of the outside world for her to experience. What I’m saying is, if she needed to conserve her energy, you would think that she would just leave the other residents out but also that controlling a real human soul would take more energy than just using a puppet. Also, if the Beldam can just force Coraline to stay with her and forcibly sew the button eyes onto her, why didn’t she just do that when Coraline went to sleep in the other world? Why bother with the whole charade at all? The less information she has, the lower her chances of escape. I may be missing something about why this isn’t the case; I haven’t seen the movie in a while 😅😅

[@sirorliktheironclad]

Finally someone who says the Beldam is a witch and not an alien.

[@jherico2534]

Broo the theory of this animated movie is endless HAHAHA

[@cartergray9397]

yooo i never looked at Other Father and Other Wybie that way, I love this theory

[@danessavaldez9759]

Hi

[@maximoesco]

Hi

[@tacos6151]

I have a theory , so yk in the beginning of the movie how there’s like the moving guys and they get tipped a buck and you were talking abt how beldam might’ve lured adults there, what if other wybie and other father were the moving guys..

[@Tzmik3]

finally found a new coraline theory

[@OCLECTOR]

just subscribed, this is so good!

[@maximoesco]

thank you soo much :D

[@odessah]

i'm a firm believer that even the seemingly human empathetic characteristics of the other father, the other wybie, the ghost children, and even the cat are part of the other mother's plan. the cat is the most ambiguous (there are theories that the other mother turned wybie's father into a cat and forces the cat to work for her to protect wybie in the real world...idk abt this one) the other mother's already established that her powers expand beyond what we're led to believe because she can obviously easily interact with the "real" world. even if she loves a challenge, why would she leave such glaring loose ends except to distract coraline and make her think she has allies, despite that the other mother literally created them? why is coraline immediately so trustful of these characters when she's just learned that everything she thought she knew about this "perfect world" is far from what she thought? how can she discern what's real and what isn't at this point? tricking coraline into thinking she has allies only makes it easier to lead her further into the other world. the other wybie pushes her to go back through the door, but we can't really trust anymore that the door leads back to the real world. how was he able to pull her out of that room so easily in the first place? if the other mother created him, how would she not know he could do something like this? i just think she's far more calculated and cunning that she wants coraline to think because she wants coraline to think she has a fighting chance even when she doesn't. also, from what we're led to believe about how the house itself works, there's no guarantee that the door even leads to the same place twice. she could literally just be going further and further into the maze and at that point, it's just a game of cat and mouse.

[@Rgungujfc]

Ik sick people like this in real life

[@Kaigregory-y1q]

Coraline scared the CRAP out of me as a kid

[@Melaniemartinez4eva4711]

i know

[@Claudia_Crimson_585]

They were made to love/care about Coraline as a friend/father so they were doing what they were made to do and they genuinely started to love her.

[@ufowingman]

The other father is goated and should be everyone’s fav character

[@goldenfox6614]

I remember when this came out I watched it on repeat

[@user-gz5oi7hm4w]

the beldam gets her energy from the souls of the kids she has consumed and she uses this energy to construct the other world, other father and other wybie were made with more energy because they are required to interact with coraline more since they were who coraline interacted with most in the real world and since they are composed of more of the souls energy it gives them a sort of will of their own and thats why wybie could help coraline because he had his own will

[@DanielLenning-fy6fq]

Thanks for sharing.

[@maximoesco]

Thank you for watching Daniel :D

[@compulsiverambler1352]

Intentional or not, the plot and symbolic elements (feeling oppressed and trapped after choosing to sew buttons over your eyes and live a fake life because it seemed better than the real one) work well as a painful metaphor for maladaptive daydreaming. The grief when you finally want to inhabit your body again and be fully present for tasks and interpersonal interactions but the addiction to the fantasy world makes it feel impossible to force yourself back to your senses and important mundane thoughts entirely. After you do fully re-engage, fantasising spontaneously happens throughout the day, you catch yourself bringing your fantasy back and mixing the two, not feeling immersed in the daydream or in reality but half in each. If it was intentional, the end might simply represent that recovering maladaptive daydreamer experience of not being able to fully engage with reality yet, still having fantasy competing for your attention during activities that are not suitable for off-task mental activity.

[@JumboJosh-lv3mo]

I perfer the soul sand theory. As the mice are obedient to beldam, that’s because they’re small and require little soul sand. Soul sand is soul in a solid form and is used to power these creatures. The more soul sand the less control. While bobinski is a bunch of rats, and the ladies are afraid if they disobey. Whybie requires more soul sand and the more soul, the more freedom. This is why other father needs a restriction. And other whybie can’t talk at all. And needs to be alive to save coraline when she escapes.

[@johnnyaguirre1912]

Yeah.....your really taking the piss with this one mate. At least I learn a few hidden details

[@johnnyaguirre1912]

..... well that was fast.

[@infiniteoctopaw]

Other Mother kidnapped her parents. Who is to say they aren't another kids parents who just never came back to rescue them. Like wybie's grandmother's parents. Like she lost her sister and parents because she got away. And is now why she doesn't rent to people with kids.

[@alicewintercrest7444]

One thing I've always wondered since I was a child and first watched this movie, before seeing all the theories, is where did the conscious beings come from? Other dad and other wybie... And why use ones that have their own consciousness? Like the belle dame just used weird candy creatures for spink and forcible, & rats for bobinsky, so.. Why are O/dad and O/wybie different?

[@wilfordbrimley1506]

I saw the IT movie (TV original) when I was 9, all the classic horror movies (Halloween, Friday the 13th series, Nightmare on Elm Street series, etc) when I was 10, never got scared, that same age the movie Coralline came out and I was horrified for months

[@Jinbustu]

7:05 me seeing pumpkin pie in my dream after thanksgiving: … does this count or would this not count?

[@maximoesco]

looking up what pumpkin pie means and supposably it signifies “romance in your relationship”

[@Jinbustu]

@@maximoesco *Yippe.mp3*

[@Ozzie666]

In the movie the beldam lures coralline's parents into the other world and traps them there so that kinda proves that she trap a afult in the other world

[@gxlden_cookie8]

As a kid i always thought the other father was a person she held hostage and used to be nice, and still is but is under control and used as a puppet same with wybie!!

[@LittleWitches]

I feel like the other mother would tell her that “I thought you’d like him a little more if he spoke a little less” to use it against her to guilt trip her in the future of the show.

[@TeslaBear-ne7jq]

something that might be interesting to add is what if their ability to rebel has to do with age. wybie is younger then the other father which may be why wybie is able to resist more, the other father is younger than the other people there but is still older and can't resist as well. just some thoughts. they are all human it's just older people can't resist as well. it explains why the other father and wybie have the same deterioration as the other people living there and everyone has a true form.

[@91n3tr33]

Im thinking maybe the Other Wybie was his grandmothers twin. Makes sense as in the first scene she empties & refills her old doll with sawdust to make a new one for Coraline. Wybie shows why he cant go with Coraline (blows his hand away). Dad is obviously a pumpkin, his magic fades as the Beldame weakens showing his real form. Soul mightve come from the other girl that wasnt Wybie’s aunt. The rats/mice’s magic came from the little boy (Huck Fin Jr.). He’s sheepish & quiet in tone similar to a mouse. They also had the saw dust.

[@DemonBunnyQueen]

Other Ms. Spink and Forcible’s monologue quoting Hamlet, “What a piece of work is a man. How noble in reason, how infinite in faculty, in form and moving how express and admirable! In action, how like an angel! In apprehension how like a god! The beauty of the world, the paragon of animals…” They didn’t finish the quote which would’ve told you, in Hamlet’s full monologue, everything after and before the quote they use, he’s describing how the world is hollow. How its wonder is an illusion. This isn’t a monologue about the beauty of the world, it’s a monologue about how that beauty is false, because all the world is only dust. The “quintessence of dust,” the most beautiful possible dust, but only dust.

[@JustMe-bc2fj]

Wybie was not going to play along. Maybe he was a kid who accepted the fate of the button eyes?