New VG10 Multitool from Rocktol (Worth It?)

[@sgsheff]

Your dedication to finding and evaluating most obscure multi-tools is absolutely incredible.

[@starkparker16]

MaxLvL will one day meet someone with his multi-tool scissor knowledge. Today is not that day.

[@maxlvledc]

its an odd obsession lols.

[@maxlvledc]

Felix Imler...nuf said.

[@Dlutheran]

​@@maxlvledc you should do a video with Felix

[@Benzion-x3q]

@@maxlvledc i can't die in peace before you make a video with felix

[@n0tthemessiah]

I feel like in a world where the brand names are all basically $100-200, paying an extra $25 to get a great blade for a tool that is only $55 total is really not that bad.

[@th34lch3m1st]

Bibury has the classic chinese workmanship that produce products in a hurry, with no quality control, no machining precision, just to make it cheap. I got the multitools pliers pro last month, the one with steel handle and black painted inserts, following your advice. Yes, it look nice, until you get your hand on it. Pliers head is misaligned and it don't close completely. Every insert that you deploy rub against the handle frame and scratch itself. Ther's not a single surface on the handle frame bent correctly at 90 degree. The cutouts on the handle are sharp on every point, your hands get scrathced just holding the multitool. Yes, customer service is amazing, I told them about this problems and they send me another multitool, keeping the first. Now I have 2 multitool with more or less the same defects that I will end up selling on 3b4y. Next time: Roxon Flex with all the inserts available on their shop and Nextool E1 for the portability (the scalpel blade holder can hold U shank saw blades if you adapt them).

[@maxlvledc]

This is good info. Sadly I've had Leatherman tools out of the box even worse than that lately. I agree the flex is super good atm.

[@alexanderheling2057]

I have a couple broken Leatherman multi-tools I have to send back in. In the meantime I think I'm going to pick up one or two of these tempting clones.

[@ramsessilent]

I love rocktol stuff there almost always got better then others they where doing d3 before everyone else to .

[@stevemuzak8526]

This is by far the best tool for $43. Insane quality.

[@kevinhauser8250]

I just ordered mine after your review I like the finish tool set and as an added bonus the quality control and VG-10

[@markadams7597]

Great review, thanks. I especially enjoy seeing your Franken-tools knock-off reviews. Although I'm a Leatherman fanboy I don't like the wave (having opted for the Surge at work and the Blast for EDC). I like this Bibury better the Gen-R (the blade shape and scissors are more appealing). Love your glow-in-the-dark spacers suggestion! Ultimately, however, budget multi-tool (less than $50 USD) are give-aways, toss'm when they break, lend them out tools. (I already have all the expensive Leathermans I ever plan to purchase.)

[@LastChanceKnives]

The Rocktool looks interesting. One of these might make a good "beater" tool. But then I got to thinking I still have my original PST that I got in the mid 80's. It has some serious wear from 15 plus years of carry on a farm, but it is still a solid tool! I just dug it out and am going to carry it for a while just for fun.

[@kathleensmith370]

thanks for showing this one

[@ToolTechGeek]

I guess these are setting the new standard for budget multi tools. Especially the Bibury.

[@johnkraemer5505]

For the current price differential …. I’m with you! I would go with the lower priced clone!

[@BrandonGavin_EDC]

I’d pay the difference just for the VG-10, still very easy to sharpen and strop but the edge retention and stainless qualities of it are worth it to me for sure.

[@KungFuTweety1]

I love the tool set!

[@mr.crumbles2557]

I like the blade shape. And the price seems right. I could buy two of these full tools for the price of one replacement Arc blade

[@cayana-r4p]

VG10, Ti coating, and high quality Phillips micro driver are worth the extra $25 for sure.

[@Quackenfr]

i say its worth, would make a great gift

[@_Michiel_]

I'd rather go for quality for a higher price than low quality for a bargain. I'd use the better one more often and with more pleasure. I would still need to save my pocket money for some time, but it would be worth it to me.

[@heath19751996]

Ok, my perfect tool 2 outside implements in multi force orientation Straight blade (d2 or better) Properly ground saw Pocket clip Inside 1/4 locking bit driver Scissor Can opener/ wre stripper Reamer/ sewing awl T shank adapter with small dual grit diamond file If there's any room left, micro driver All in aus8 or better 👍 Sold

[@PreparedWolf34]

I agree with your assessment but if that new tool goes on sale around the $40 range, think I buy it.

[@johntinker208]

On sale for 43 bucks right now. Worth it at that price

[@donaldcarr8766]

Leatherman Bond is also exceptable edc in most countries that have restrictions on locking blades.

[@Benzion-x3q]

Knifeless Rebar + another compliant folder is honestly the way to go for that scenario

[@namelesske]

@maxlvledc Could you demonstrate the 1mm magnet tip in practice? Because does not work on my DL30. Maybe my magnet is bad quality, but a 6mm hex can remove it easily and the bottom is concave and cracks the magnet with the double sided bits.

[@maxlvledc]

hmm, in that case I would apply a generous amount of hot glue first then set it in, this will provide the flat surface for the magnet. I'll need to try it again with the ones that I have.

[@namelesske]

@@maxlvledc I glued the magnet at end of my extender 🤷

[@maxlvledc]

@@namelesske hmm, interesting idea. I'll play with this, ordering a set of magnets now.

[@liveupmatt]

Why no review on the Rcoktol 12 in 1?

[@dsimon33871]

Great observations about the smaller philips head! So: You have a better knife steel, a better micro driving bit, which along with the superior sharpening on the main blade, could be chalked up to as you put it "better quality control." While the extra 25 bucks seems a stretch, many Americans have no compunction about spending almost that amount on a few big macs... Which makes me think, someone like me, who will eat at home, partially because of food costs, versus someone who will buy fast food for two (just to have some metric here), and spend close to, if not that amount... We may both, indeed we probably should, have a different perspective on that cost! At the end of the day I will jump ship here: As a user, not a collector, I would pay the premium. Primarily because I am assuming that quality control will extend to the unseen parts of the manufacturing process, that which I may not necessarily catch. For example, Been a Bibury fan, but do not like how tight their tools are! And hard to adjust. It is so bad I would consider this a design flaw of sorts and something that people with knowledge of ergonomics would not allow... What good is a multi tool if it threatens to take your fingernails, and even a finger, or two off, when you have to use it? What cost is worth buying something that eliminates this flaw?

[@cayana-r4p]

Is the Arc a higher quality tool to be worth the extra $175?

[@Ghosted_Guy]

Looking for a bit kit set that i could buy seperate that would work with the Roxtool, any recommendations?

[@GSK4EVER]

15% off on Amazon now

[@jack.charlesc4750]

12c27 all the way or 14c28 ❤

[@garybythesea]

Can you please do a review of small bits comparison with your tool collection? Micro screwdrivers. Thanks. I often need that and wonder which one is better.

[@maxlvledc]

hmm, good question..I tend to believe its better to get precision 4mm and 1/4" bits then the proprietary ones.

[@DrewDragoon]

This tool is currently $50 on Amazon with a 10% coupon so $45, do you recommend it at that price? I'm heavily considering buying it for my father for Christmas

If you set up a Bibury against this Rocktool on a shelf at your local hardware store, my bet would be on the Bibury every time. Price is the main factor in buying things. People are satisfied with "good enough". That's how you earn market shares, price. After you earned a brand reputation you can up the price like Leatherman and people still buy it. But starting with upping the price, i don't think that's a good idea. time will tell. ;)

[@Shopsmith10er]

Dropped in a Walmart for a gal of milk. Happened to walk by the sporting isle and here were Ozark Trail knockoff knifes of the Swiss Army brand. For $1 let me repeat ONE DOLLAR. Blade ✓ scissors ✓ saw ✓ bottle opener ✓ Phillips and flat screwdriver ✓ . Bought 10 of them. Giveaway and spares. (Ps. Gal of milk $3.50).

[@alexanderheling2057]

I think VG10 steal has a tendency to chip more which could be it's fatal flaw. Are any of these two clones better than the Gordon Harbor Freight 20 in 1 Leatherman Wave clone multi tool for the same price point?

[@maxlvledc]

I think the bibury is, I FAR prefer the full 1/4" bit holder.

[@rcdubya]

There is a 15% off coupon right now on Amazon

[@_EDCstuff]

I wish leatherman would make a full size multi-tool option that dropped the useless kitchen utensils, and added a full 1/4 inch/micro bit driver, and an awl. I have never needed a can opener or bottle opener on any of the tools I have owned. Also, the driver should be magnetic, instead of a breakable spring detent. The wire cutters have always chipped and made the pliers not open very easily. It's like they get too far away from an actual hard use tool, try to cover too many other functions that don't get much use, and add weight. Also, the crazy price for the Arc is something I'd never pay. $100+ is nuts for something that has so many useless items, or has so few options for customization. For $230 you should be able to pick every single implement you want, and any of the steel options available for the blade. $230? Take a walk, Leatherman. I'd rather carry a whole 50 lb. toolbox that costs less. BTW, your videos are very well put together. Some of the best tool videos on YT. 👍

[@charlesheller5767]

1 How about version with scissors and file outboard, no knives or awl? Lighter, thinner, and TSA & non-permissive environment compliant. 2) How about a version of the same tool on a 3" or 3.25" frame? Lighter, infinitely more carryable, an no less utility. Powerpint or Juice S2 replacement, but with a good (better than Powerpint) scissors. 3) How about same as #1 in 3" frame size? Does Rocktol listen to you at all Dom? Would it open a new(er) sales category for them? Or are these dumb ideas?

[@richardzheng231]

Or better yet, a T shank holder so you can put whatever you want on the outside

[@maxlvledc]

would be cool. but wouldn't sell. I'd just use a Roxon flex and use the modular system.

[@mcrangergr33n8]

now Rocktol vs SQT?

[@maxlvledc]

I mean...Roktol offers way better value I think since its $50-55 vs $45

[@GMTD11]

I don't see any reason put in multitool hi-perfomance steel at all. I'm ok if manufacturers do m390 wire cutter and claim it like super longlife durable cutters. But big chunk of steel like a knife don't need it, this is expensive. And much more i appreciate using g10/plastic details in a tool what make it light. Teflon washers olso got forgotten by the time, but it still good way to protect some moving parts.

[@TopDog8762]

This is just me. Odd man out as usual. But the least useful tool on a multi-tool is the knife blade I always carry a knife and have never found the blade on a multi-tool to be of much use. So not worth the price to me

[@MartinDunwell]

Your not the odd man out I think there's a few of us

[@maxlvledc]

your not odd at all, I sometime feel the same way.. and when I carry a fixed blade + multitool its DEFINITELY how I feel.

[@dmitrykabanov9155]

VG10 is way better than standard biburry blade. It just two-three times better. The price is reasonable.

[@2Bstrifeless]

Around 3:04, is that something on the saw from use or a big ol burr?

[@imagitu6409]

its 49.99 now. what say you?

[@lamson1999]

Soooo.... It's $41 right now on their site.

[@dualsportoutdoors]

It's a clone. That means that the "VG10" has a 95% chance of not really being VG10

[@maxlvledc]

that kind of PR has a high likely hood of costing them far more money then just doing it right in the first place. I do not see why they would bother using something else.

[@dualsportoutdoors]

​@@maxlvledc I've seen it several times. I admin All Knives Matter on FB and one of the guys in there is a metallurgist. He's tested steels on blades from several clone companies and only one turned out to be using the claimed steel but it was so soft that it may as well have been made from soda can aluminum. Clone companies have no gripes whatsoever with being 100% dishonest through and through

[@DanielTAGyota]

For the love of Mike?

[@maxlvledc]

lols, hey..I was improv.

[@DanielTAGyota]

@@maxlvledc 😂

[@jasonu-yjhue]

Just so you know, the multi-tool is model Gen-R not VG10. I think you are getting mixed up with the specs of the model. The straight-edge blade is VG-10 for the Gen-R. This blade and titanium-coated handle will increase the cost of this multi-tool. $55 is reasonable for such features for this multi-tool. Hopefully, mass production does not create a tool that is misformed and may need aggressive filing to make the locking mechanisms work. I use two hands to dispense the tools for multitools because that is how I was taught in Boy Scouts. Also, I believe it is safer than using one hand. I have the Bibury that you show in this video. The Bibury multitool shown in this video and the Rocktol Gen-R are about the same weight give or take a nickel. A nickel is about 5 grams.

[@maxlvledc]

I call it a Gen-R in the first 30 seconds. the VG-10 Part I listed as most important but I'll add both in description. Cheers.

[@davepirtle9790]

Interesting you say about 5 grams because I calibrate my scale by nickels and they are extremely accurate.

[@TheIrcbully]

These multi tools now a days are just repeats. I will stick with the arc

[@maxlvledc]

I mean if you have an Arc, your probably set.

[@nandayane]

I am waiting for a chinese manufacturer to swap out the sheet stainless steel body with a titanium one to actually bring the weight down.

[@maxlvledc]

that already exists..but it weights more because it is solid instead of milled.

[@nandayane]

@@maxlvledc which tool is it? I am Curious

[@maxlvledc]

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