Maxroll Vessel of Hatred S6 Podcast - Diablo 4

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[@RhebelGaming]

One thing i would love is that they massively increase the experience gain from doing side quests. That should be the main way to level up to 60 IMO

[@nine9_abyss]

Agreed 💯💯.

[@jontechie]

I like this Podcast, people at my work thinks I'm in a meeting they do not disturb me 😅

[@barliechrown9994]

Once a week for citadell we shoupd have a chance for a resplendent spark or two in the cache with ancestrals. I dont think thay would throw the balance too hard, honestly.

[@Khrann]

I don’t know if it’s only a spiritborn “issue” but another problem with bosses is they instantly die and there’s zero challenge. Didn’t try them in T4, but in T3 any tormented boss dies in a couple of seconds. That also applies to Andariel and Lilith even if you are forced to do phase 2 for “reasons” and i die because Andariel and Lilith balls just one shot me even at T1.

[@proseusr]

I very quickly got the impression that bartering is for unlocking new aspects while leveling alts, not for maxing out your aspects. That said, I'm not sure what IS for maxing out aspects, because literally the majority of ancestrals I've seen had minimum or close to minimum rolls. I think I have exactly one maxed aspect, not counting tin 1/1 ones.

[@TheHatefulHulk]

Love these talks. Thank you guys!

[@lazaron1]

I totally agree with @pandaglassjaw - the materials are way to abundant. I am paragon 268 - got all mythics, good GA items, run pit 100 easily, +150k obducite, 2 billion gold. At least as spiritborn I guess i'am done already.

[@blue-vz5xx]

Also when you hit your 5th paragon board make it so you require 0 points in a basic skill. When you have a build that uses no basic skills you wont feel like youre waisting your skill points anymore.

[@scott898586]

A lot of great points brought up. I agree that bugs need to be fixed to bring the spiritborn in line with other classes, but I also do not agree that there should be content that is unobtainable. Balance is important, but you cannot balance classes if the game is full of bugs. All content should be able to be completed by all classes as close to as equal as possible. The new class should be slightly better, but existing classes should be equal. All builds should be viable even if harder to make work than others. A season's journey should not be over in two weeks when they last 14. Really what needs to happen is that Blizzard needs to work harder on catching bugs, fixing bugs, and not let them ride out to a point that fixing before the next season leads to revolt. Also T4 should be a lot more rewarding with GAs and better rolled aspects. The difference between T1 - T4 really doesn't feel noticeable outside of mythic uniques.

[@Juggs_WoW]

Legion events giving hundreds of rawhide was a bug that was fixed, that's why it dropped by a lot.

[@c-tothefourth4879]

It's not singleplayer vs multiplayer. It's live vs not. Man people don't think.

[@Kustom44]

The problem with the bugs is that blizzard didn't nerf Day 1. Now it is so hard to play other classes without feeling so weak and slow. They have set a precedent. People will continue to blast through all this new content. Everyone will be bored by the mid-season patch. Alts won't happen, Next season when they do try to nerf, they won't get it right again, and it will be another season of the same thing. IMO Nerf mid-season to test/get things right with balance, and buff other classes. Next season rework other classes' skills.

[@cptmittelstrahl]

"Now it is so hard to play other classes without feeling so weak and slow" that's a you problem. personally after playing SB i am glad to play druid. SB makes the whole game trivial or like you said perfectly : boring af. the rest of your comment is spot on i wouldn't trust blizzard to fix things either

[@rodgerbane3825]

Blizzard introduces expensive new expansion with a new class. New class is ultra buffed and fun to play. Class gets nerfed after season and becomes weak and much less fun. Repeat at $;79.99 per expansion. It's a way to squeeze as much $$$$ out of the game as they can.

[@durpasaur3052]

Almost every amazing single player game has skill gated content that everyone appreciates because it shows an appreciation to the community.

[@Dave-ct9yw]

Leveling spiritborn was fun, hitting that insane damage was fun. Now the game is boring and the other classes feel bad. Spiritborn is a quick rush but when the rush is gone its a hard fall to boredom.

[@kenjooh93]

I think if you're gonna fix something op like the spirit born you do it very early in the season or after the season is finished. They missed the mark on fixing it early so if it happens mid season alot of people are just gonna quit if their character gets giga nerfed :)

[@c-tothefourth4879]

150 shouldn't be attainable.

[@stevemarck2210]

With aspects, why don't we just level them up? So early on you start low, and the more of each aspect you find the more in increases? Have them always drop at your level, and if you salvage, the level goes up. If finding 21 is too few, then make it so you need 10 to go up a level, or make the levels scale exponentially or something. Manage the whole thing in the codex. People have the problem because they want everything maxed out, well, if you level them, then you can max faster. And hey, if you want, the higher the item level, the faster the level increases so getting ancestrals boosts you quicker.

[@lmgaming9675]

Great podcast fellas. I have been feeling the same way about a lot of things, mostly that I have all the power I need for the whole season without having good masterworking etc, so why should I keep gearing? for what? that's the question I keep asking myself, and I'm nowhere near maxed out. Can 1 shot tormented bosses, speed run 101 pits, got all my glyphs to 100 but for what reason?! Basically the whole game is 'end game' now, which makes it feel like there is no endgame. The carrot no longer has that same hold on me!

[@steel5897]

Hence why most people are done with D4 seasons in 1 week.

[@lmgaming9675]

@@steel5897 most people? Do you really think most people are done? Most meaning majority?

[@Khrann]

Also I don’t agree with Seroc “it’s unhealthy for the game to have a class that clears pit 150 in 3 mins”, how much time and luck do you have to invest to reach that point? I’m not even clearing pit 80 in 3 minutes with my spiritborn. You have to think that 99% of players play about 120 hours per SEASON (roughly one hour per day), not 120 hours per WEEK like you do.

[@DerekPage-ms7cv]

Season of the grind , but what else is there to do with no real endgame

[@ReyLentless]

I agree with the couple people saying t4 shouldn't be farmable. T3 on a good end game build should be farmable and there should be t4 for people who want the challenge but should be less efficient for all builds. The guys saying everything should be 1 shotted at the highest difficulty and if 150 exists, everyone should be able to do it just cuz spiritborn unintentionally did it this season and people like spiritborn... no, completely wrong. T4 should be attainable for all builds, but never easy or efficient.

[@NewMega252]

Yeah I agree d3 had that issue of every class and every build could blast through everything on the highest of difficulties. Like it's cool at first but quickly just loses all interest after a few runs because there's no real challenge. I think farming t4 is OK but I think it should be a challenge and it should be something to work towards and reward you for it but not a 1 button waffle stomp

[@patrickswagerty4291]

None of these guys figured out that Blizzard nerfed all the classes and overpowered the spirit born intentionally to bait people who didn't buy the expansion into getting it.

[@carlharrison4064]

To a point but it's mainly bugs not overturning. Remember the victimise bug that made rogue insane or all the other buggy interactions throughout the game. They weren't selling expansions then. This is what happens when you don't put it in the ptr or conspiracy theory time.... did they purposely leave it out because they didn't want it fixed.

[@randomicer8204]

Cant believe 64% said leave it alone.. self centric egocentric people killing the game. I came across 1 sorc yesterday since release VoH. Not healthy

[@c-tothefourth4879]

If you think about it, 64% is not even a high number. If you assume 95% of people are playing Spiritborn (which is my experience), then that means if every Spiritborn voted to keep them as is, it would be 95/5 in the poll. But the fact that it's 35/65, means that 33% of Spiritborn players voted to nerf themselves. It should be nerfed. The season will die out much quicker if people cannot make worthwhile alts or play the class they actually want to compared to the few who will leave over their toy being nerfed, imo.

[@FusionDeamon]

Streamers are out of touch with the game, Most people cant farm bosses none stop. And most people are not teaming up with people to rotate bosses none stop. News flash for you, most people spend most of the game solo. Including boss farming. Yes people understand how its more efficient to rotate mats in boss farming, But most don't do it.

[@gvido2923]

this people are just clowns ,, me like I like '' well go find a real job aND WILL SEE WHAT YOU LIKE WITH 1H -2H GAME TIME !!!

[@cptmittelstrahl]

Please don't buff all other classes. The Game is way to easy as it is and the SB just trivializes everything ! It's boring af

[@gvido2923]

change class

[@carlharrison4064]

Doing 120+ pits with your non SB character? Let me get this right, SB is only toon to clear 150+ but it should be nerfed and other classes that can barely do 100's are fine?

[@carlharrison4064]

You can't lput enemies with 10's and 100's of billion health if no class can do the damage. Original classes need a buff simple as

[@c-tothefourth4879]

@@carlharrison4064 Yup.