Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 6Y160P0 hard drive sounds & Inside view

[@tfmiklos]

I finally found it! This seeking noise at spinning up burned into my memory, and after many years I can hear it again. Thank you!

[@hs_doubbing]

As a kid, I remember first observing that my computer made a rattling sound while games were loading. It was this very sound. It was an Athlon 64 I had a 200 gig, SATA, and maybe a DiamondMax 10, but still, this sound is very important to me. Some consider these drives to be quite boring. However, their reliability is pretty good in their old age, they’re darn quick, and they’re readily available in fairly large sizes. I’ve taken quite a liking to them these last few years as a result.

[@Mathmos252]

i do have a 200 diamondmax 10 . extremely loud slider sounds!

[@adinnugroho6544]

160 GB in 2004 was considered big. I have one currently, but mine is Hitachi. For now, is just not enough (for today's file size), and I may need to buy the bigger capacity 😅

[@Mathmos252]

that glich you saw in speedsys is a compatibility issue with large drives , the maximum capacity is between 80gb and 100 . when it reaches the limit on the platter it just skips that area and completes the test on the outer

[@NelsonBigGunP200Fan]

We had an old dell Dimension with an 80GB 2mb cache model DM9 and it had a smart failure. It couldn't even boot or show any files that was on the drive. It would just lock the PC up. It was bad luck for the customer as it had her files and bernina sewing machine software on it. She had a really old machine and the software wouldn't work on Win 10. We made a VM of XP on her laptop and used passthrough so she could use her sewing machine. The drive however was recycled because it couldnt be accessed by any PC.

[@arnlol]

Ouch! We all know even then most reliable drives can fail but that’s always bad when they are still relied upon, and I guess some users may not know or think about that. (Even knowing about it, I personally had no backups until a few years ago. Now I have 1 backup drive home and got backblaze cloud backups as soon as I got fiber internet) I actually did something similar using a VM to get legacy hardware working, a Windows 7 VM on my mom’s laptop to use a old HP printer that only prints the top of the page if you try to use it on Windows 10 for some reason. Works totally fine. I think using VMs to get legacy hardware working on newer machines is quite a common thing, why replace hardware when it is still fully working but just old, right?

[@MyComputerStudios_]

My 6Y080L0 is in pretty good health! Suggested by the S.M.A.R.T that shows only 587 hours, no bad, no reallocated sectors! Also it runs hdmotion fine only skips the repeated seek, and speedsys runs like usual

[@MyComputerStudios_]

Suggested my Asus P5KPL-AM SE motherboard can run up to ATA-100 speeds. For the main drive for that pc, i use a Slimline Seagate ST3160215AS that runs xp, nice loud seeking too

[@MyComputerStudios_]

Also in perfect health

[@arnlol]

I checked with my other larger drives and they also do the "drop" in the seek time test. My Maxtor DiamondMax 11 500GB (Highest capacity IDE drive I have) does it 3 times even. I think it's a bug related to larger >137GB drives. I assume neither DOS nor speedsys were ever meant to use such large drives. Aside from the single reallocated sector the non opened one is acting normaly. I do not have any DiamondMax Plus 9 with no reallacated sectors yet, but I have a DiamondMax 10 and DiamondMax 11 with no bad/reallocated sectors.

[@MyComputerStudios_]

@@arnlol suggested by the SMART of mine my drive was rarely used, that is the heads didn't seek thst much

[@Kali_Krause]

I had a Maxtor Diamondmax 8 that lasted a long time. 11 years I had that thing before it finally went up :)

[@arnlol]

The DiamondMax 8 have such an unusual design, they are thinner than regular drives and use a simple flat arm with a single head on it. It also has a parking ramp which is hidden in the middle next to the spindle under the platter, which is extremely unusual (This specific Maxtor design might be the only drives to ever do that?) They have the same data density as the DiamondMax plus 9 (40GB per surface) but sadly they are very silent. Well I guess it actually was a positive thing then, but it is not what I like and it makes getting a decent recording of one difficult.

[@NelsonBigGunP200Fan]

I had a bunch of these drives myself too. The 2mb cache and 8mb cache models. They all seemed to work great especially the 8mb cache models. They were PATA too. I was running 2 in a RAID 0 at one time.

[@catlover281]

0:09 My 2.5” HM121HI does the same, it’s a cache thing. You also would need to set the format to FAT32 or it just refuses to work.

[@arnlol]

I don't think the format matters for HDMotion, but yeah the quick jumps and skipped parts are because of the drive caching them

[@aprilkolwey4779]

I suspect the odd Speedsys results are related to the LBA28 limit of 128GiB or about 137GB, as this drive is larger than that, meaning that it requires LBA48 to be fully accessible. It's probably wrapping back around to 0 once it hits the limit.

[@arnlol]

Yes this is almost certainly the case, as my 500GB Maxtor wraps around multiple times. I don't know if that limitation comes from the BIOS, DOS or speedsys though, but speedsys certainly is quite an old program.

[@danhutchinsonbackup]

They should release a newer version of hdmotion that is better optimised for newer drives

[@Sva010]

7:10 looks like never drefraged or c and D partition

[@notsoseagatey]

The unopened Maxtor is from an Apple iMac or Mac Pro/Power Mac most likely, because they used maxtor until maxtor went under (APL mark next to the maxtor logo)

[@arnlol]

I've seen images of Maxtors with the apple logo on tham but they did not say APL, so I'm really not convinced that it is related

[@notsoseagatey]

@@arnlolMaybe I should do more research then :) Btw some drives actually have black labels to indicate an Apple drive

[@TheRedYTPer]

A Seagate 7200.10 would be able to run this too! Maybe do a video on one soon?

[@AlexPayneKU]

Офигенно!

[@maxtornogood]

I've had a tendency to see Maxtor's fail hence my unfavourable screen name "maxtornogood". These appear to work great though!

[@vilius1532]

I have the same HDD 80GB version after 5 minutes of runtime it begins clicking and working very slowly after about 2 mins of this It begins to run OK

[@Sva010]

mine is 200 and the other is 160 both sata

[@randomyt666]

What do you make the covers out of?

[@arnlol]

It's from the front of a DVD case. The plastic is flexible unlike CD cases so it is easy to cut it to the correct size and it doesn't get cracked. I re-used the one that used to be on the opened Quantum since that one failed.

[@Bumix87]

Hey hi, how did you make the glass for the hard drive? can you make a video on this topic? And did you order this glass for the size under the lid or did you do it yourself?

[@arnlol]

It is a peice of plastic from a clear DVD case, it is fairly soft so it is not too hard to cut it to a close enough size