Scissor Hoist vs Telescopic Cylinder | It's not what you think! DJX vs DTX Dump Trailer Comparison

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@calvincheney7405
@calvincheney7405 Жыл бұрын
I'm the Goshen, IN driver for a National LTL carrier. I pick up Lippert materials for your company. I've seen MAXX-D on my bills of lading plenty of times. Pretty cool to see my efforts in action! For many years I've been around heavy equipment as a farm boy, soldier & civilian. These dump trailers look well engineered, tough & ready for years of dependable service. The Lippert Corporation engineers high quality products with state of the art manufacturing techniques & I'm proud to be on the team making these trailers happen~
@dillondance1393
@dillondance1393 Жыл бұрын
Just bought a 16k gooseneck DTX and couldn’t be happier with the quality!
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial Жыл бұрын
We're pumped to be a part of what you're doing!
@MrGaryGG48
@MrGaryGG48 3 ай бұрын
@@Maxxdtrailersofficial It's a DUMP Trailer... it's supposed to pump!! 😆 👍
@billshauling4507
@billshauling4507 Жыл бұрын
I own a maxx-d roll off dumpster trailer. All of maxx-d trailers are built to last! I’ve been very happy with my trailer and I’ll definitely only buy and recommend Maxx-D in the future. Also dealing with warranty issues and parts has been extremely easy calling or emailing directly to maxx-d to get things fixed, not having to wait around on dealerships having down time. Definitely worth the money! You get what you pay for!
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial Жыл бұрын
We're pumped to hear that!
@jimbernard71
@jimbernard71 Жыл бұрын
Where are they built- AMERICA???
@jimbernard71
@jimbernard71 Жыл бұрын
Great Ideas!!!
@chinahydrauliccylinder1375
@chinahydrauliccylinder1375 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video to compare telescopic and scissor hoist. Each has its own merits.It depends on final user needs.
@jxrdnz
@jxrdnz Жыл бұрын
all you need is a diverter valve for the front jack and dump, simple and easy H&H has it for their 14k equipment haulers, works so slick
@jamespolkinghorne4452
@jamespolkinghorne4452 Жыл бұрын
A diverter valve would not work in this case because the pump for the telescopic cylinder is only a single acting pump. That means it only generates pressure out of one port. A jack needs a double acting pump in order to create power up and down, hence they are using a double acting pump for the jack. The four function pump they are referring to has the capability to accommodate both a single acting and double acting cylinder on the same valve body, which eliminates the need for two pumps.
@k.b.322
@k.b.322 Жыл бұрын
@@jamespolkinghorne4452 Not necessarily, if the cylinder/jack had springs built in, they could retract the cylinder and the single acting pump would work.
@chriauc2976
@chriauc2976 11 ай бұрын
@@jamespolkinghorne4452you talk gibberish wont take time to correct yourown reallity fearing you will implode keep To trucking
@brianmassey5897
@brianmassey5897 Жыл бұрын
I already own a Maxx-D 22ft power tilt flatbed trailer and love it (Only wish is got the hyd. jack but going to add later) Am now looking at purchasing a dump trailer and this video helped with making a decision. To me I like the telescoping due to people having a bad way to over load the front half and the telescoping is the best for this. Now just need to find the right deal to purchase.
@balamala2647
@balamala2647 Жыл бұрын
For me it's not about the speed of the dump, it's about the reliability of a dump so if I have a really heavy load, my preference is the telescopic lift.
@GFSwinger1693
@GFSwinger1693 Жыл бұрын
Every dump trailer I have seen tip over has been an open frame telescopic style. This is because there is no stability in a telescopic ram, it can only push and it's subject to buckling. The scissor mechanism itself, even without the ram, is exponentially more stable just due to the width and the role in side load resistance it provides. Yeah, there are more moving pieces and you need a larger diameter due to lower mechanical advantage as compared to a straight pushing telescopic, but the former just seems superior.
@keithHarmon2057
@keithHarmon2057 4 ай бұрын
I have telescopic, love it.
@rhaskins17692341820
@rhaskins17692341820 4 ай бұрын
Exactly, telescopic seems fine for near perfect level grade with near perfect load distribution dumping. At a left or right sloped grade or uneven load, I believe the scissor is more stable and has less chance of tipping over.
@flatout5815
@flatout5815 4 ай бұрын
As a hydraulics mechanic you are correct the telescopics can lift more but when it comes to fixing the cylinders the scissor style would be much cheaper long term. Easier to disassemble and seal than a multistaged cylinder.
@drousseau5908
@drousseau5908 3 ай бұрын
​@@GFSwinger1693 that's not true it's capable of more lift, an even lift unlike the scissor lift which if you have most of your weight in the front it will not full dump and you'll have to bring it back down move it to the middle and go back up. There's a reason we use telescopic with 53 ft dump trailers moving gravel, dirt, pavement etc it's because it's the most reliable and accurate way of spreading or dumping.
@dieselsupreme7688
@dieselsupreme7688 7 ай бұрын
We have two MAXX-D 14’ dump trailers that we use for our roofing jobs. They dump those heavy loads effortlessly in comparison to our other trailers whom will sometimes not want to lift the certain sized loads. Out all the other brands we’ve used. MAXX-D has been the best.
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the support, we're pumped to be a part of what you're doing!
@henrycarlson7514
@henrycarlson7514 Жыл бұрын
Interesting , Thank You . Good thing you're hitch was well latched, It looks like at about 1.40 the loads shifted and made the front ends come up . As we all know over balancing a load is NOT a good thing. Still a fine demonstration of useful trailers. To the critics Every trailer has many design choices .
@kellytrelawney8979
@kellytrelawney8979 11 ай бұрын
Observation. The way that both trailers lifted the drawbar as the load shifted means the operator will need to be careful when spreading, or they will lift the rear pickup wheels off the ground.
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@jacobgatts6711
@jacobgatts6711 Жыл бұрын
Much like target shooting, speed is not accuracy. While the scissor will arguably be the fastest lift system, the telescoping is hands down the strongest. For those saying BS, how do dump trucks lift? lol. Less stress on the frame too. Look at Texas Pride Trailers torture test from Dirt Monkey. They run all 3 lift systems on their 20k trailers. They loaded the trailers until they would not lift anymore then weighed them. Scissor was around 27,200lbs, dual was 36,900lbs, and telescoping came in at 47,120lbs. Texas Pride makes a great trailer and $6,000 - $8,000 cheaper for a beefy trailer. (Not Diamond C or Maxx-D beefy, yet still contractor grade) Scissor lift will continue to get the job done! Just better technology out these days.
@MrSlade62
@MrSlade62 11 ай бұрын
I have had a GMC 7000 Can not remember the year. It had a scissor lift and a 20' box with 4' sides maybe 5' usually used for hauling construction trash I could load it with almost a full box of dirt and roof tile mixed, maybe not legal to go down the road weight wise.... don't tell, and that lift would never let me down, it had dual cylinders on the lift had to have one repacked, and the bed broke the rear hinge on the drivers side one time dumping a huge load of dirt.... but still dumped and dropped, had to have that repaired that day.... Miss that rig... was a great truck for the time.
@brandonrakes6341
@brandonrakes6341 9 ай бұрын
Can’t find this link would you oblige?
@georgehofgren6123
@georgehofgren6123 8 ай бұрын
Bla bla bla... Love it when guys don't understand what the power of Hydraulics is for.... You see all that Exposed Chrome you keep coating with Rock Dust... Think your going to get a Seal Kit for your CHINESE TELESCOPIC RAM??? Gotta love these geniuses in the comments 😄
@drousseau5908
@drousseau5908 3 ай бұрын
​@@georgehofgren6123yeah you're one of them. There's a reason we use telescopic lifts in construction. Our 53' dumps are all telescopic used for paving, dirt, gravel etc and have never had an issue.
@georgehofgren6123
@georgehofgren6123 3 ай бұрын
@@drousseau5908 Those are domestic lifts designed exclusively for End-dumps. Guy, THERE'S NO ROOM UNDER AN END DUMP FOR A SCISSOR LIFT ~ 🤦🙄~
@rickwest4783
@rickwest4783 Жыл бұрын
BigTex Trailers will dump as much as you can put in it. Don't get me wrong. You've got nice trailers but, it should dump all you can get in it. It sucks when you get more than half full and it won't dump. I will be looking closer at your trailers and prices.I need a new heavy dump that I can haul behind both my truck or my tractor. I use that when working off-road. I really like your remote. Makes it nice to dump from the cab. I'm guessing that they both have wireless remote. It was a good video. Thank you.
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial Жыл бұрын
We don't currently have scales close enough to the plant to load both trailers. We would rather not take these trailers down the road overloaded.
@MrSlade62
@MrSlade62 11 ай бұрын
@@Maxxdtrailersofficial SIr, being that you're a manufacture of these trailers, you would certainly be able to find a rock pit or other place with scales that would load you and let you dump the product back out at that location to TEST your trailers!! Should not be too hard and the only cost should be ... repainting, Also I had a 40' aluminum end dump we put a 10k liner in it to lengthen the life of the bed.... If the concern is the inside, from demo jobs of concrete, block or bricks... maybe a liner would assist those who are worried. I am in Arizona so Rust and water was usually not an issue for rusting or such things maybe less of an issue with aluminum than steel but something to consider depending on the state and situations the trailers are being used for or in. Hauling firewood would be perfect!!
@TurkVladimir
@TurkVladimir 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Great Video
@lesliemaness999
@lesliemaness999 3 ай бұрын
Great comparison video. Lots of back and forth in the comments on the pros and cons of each lift system. I would design a combination of both a ram to get the momentum started and a scissor to finish the dump.
@KdougK
@KdougK 2 ай бұрын
I’ve always thought that it would be easy
@joecummings1260
@joecummings1260 Жыл бұрын
Tube for crossmembers always ends up rotting because they hold moisture. Better off using channel. I've seen guys try that tube crossmember thing under roll-off containers too and they all rotted out in just a couple years
@m.weston7114
@m.weston7114 Жыл бұрын
I have had scissor hoists on trucks and trailers and would not switch to a telescopic. Telescopics get weaker as it gets longer and can snap if at an angle. Scissor is the way to go.
@brianconner4854
@brianconner4854 Жыл бұрын
I would have to disagree. I’ve had 2 16k scissor lift and now a 16k telescopic. They don’t get weaker as they extend. They are strongest at full extension. Like a solid steel rod. Look at dump trucks. They dont use scissor lift. Yes you have to be more careful about not being on a significant angle with them. They aren’t as stable as the scissor. And they are slower. Difference is were it matters… they dump way more. It’s easy to overload a scissor lift. Ask me how I know. Telescopic not the case. I have yet to see my 2 year old max d 16k get stuck dumping anything
@wlombardo31
@wlombardo31 Жыл бұрын
I dump on hills , inclined all different directions, unstable ground, fly ash, to top soil,to stone, firewood. 14 ft telescopic. I have had a scissor lift in the past same 14ft. The telescopic will do it all with tons of more dumping power if needed. When on a hill or not level ground your dump bed is stable by the mounting not the lifting... there's 100 years of them being used in 53 foot er etc to prove that. The telescopic does sway a little at times at high lift but nothing to worry about if your paying attention anyway. Iam sure you can overload it and break it , tip it etc same as the others. Point is telescopic is stronger by far. More efficient, effective. Think of a wheelbarrow. Put the handle in the center. Load it up and try lifting it from All those different points with your arms. You will see you can not beat the telescopic. They all will beak if you overload enough , will all tip over. It's about using them in the operation range. Then the telescopic is by far the winner. If you care about 30 seconds of up and down time, then you won't buy a dump trailer to start with. They are not faster than a dump truck period or stronger. Also have worked in the coal yard with tractor trailers loaded full of fly ash. 80 to 140 tons a load . We dumped on big pile of fly ash. Very unstable. Rarely did a truck tip. Only when they were not being smart. Witch every trailer will tip if being dumb.
@nathandevine552
@nathandevine552 Жыл бұрын
I think the biggest difference is dump angle for sticky loads and a properly designed telescopic will win
@daleharvey3278
@daleharvey3278 Жыл бұрын
There is more wear and issues with a scissor, telescope cyl is better, also easier to replace when necessary.
@acecoors
@acecoors Жыл бұрын
A telescopic is unstable at heights…? But a scissor isn’t..?? That’s gonna be a tough claim to back up. If you’re lifting a ladder that’s laying flat on the ground, when you start standing it up are you gonna hold it down by your waist? Or as high over your head as you can reach? See the similarity? The telescopic is pushing on the very end of the “ladder”. The best possible scenario. The scissor is pushing on the middle while the top is free floating. The side-to-side stability comes from the hinges, the shape of the cylinder is almost irrelevant.
@velez910
@velez910 11 ай бұрын
Came for a comparison of the lift turned into a sales pitch for 90% of the video
@MIGHTYX2010
@MIGHTYX2010 11 ай бұрын
What! 😂 Depends on what the parameters of winning are. If it's time on a light load then share scissor lift wins but if it's what trailer can dump more with a heavy load then telescopic wins If it's I need to load the weight front heavy and carry a small stand on machine at the rear then telescopic wins because the scissor lift will not be able to dump the load 😮 thus basically winning on time and speed as well 🙂
@ddaddybass
@ddaddybass 3 ай бұрын
That would depend on the weight of the load now wouldn't it?
@thegreenerthemeaner
@thegreenerthemeaner 11 ай бұрын
Scissor lift are more stable thus safer.
@LGTrees
@LGTrees 11 ай бұрын
I might have missed it- what is your painting system? My biggest gripe with my new trailer it's paint blistered within a year. Very disappointing.
@LGTrees
@LGTrees 11 ай бұрын
Not your trailer- a competitors company
@donaldstrishock3923
@donaldstrishock3923 Жыл бұрын
Well Sir this was a good "Torture-Test". Even with the Scissor-lift, Realy LOADED FRONT heavy it STILL Beat the Telescope. I know the Telescopic has More "Brute-Force" capacity ( enough to snap the Axles-With the weight it Can lift)....But l Will Stick with my "Scissor-lift" All-day-long. Thank you Sir for the Excelent vidio. These are Realy Fine Built Trailers. Best wishes with all your endeavours.
@cindymccraw6413
@cindymccraw6413 10 ай бұрын
What is the height of the trailer when at full extension. We have a horse boarding facility. We will be hauling shavings. I want to make sure the ceiling height of my storage shed will accommodate the trailer to dump out the shavings.
@Uswesi1527
@Uswesi1527 29 күн бұрын
Longer hydraulic cylinders are prone to bend and leak hydraulic fluid. That’s why the giant off highway trucks use the scissors hoist .
@eckdoggie
@eckdoggie 10 ай бұрын
I need that red djx
@chrispastore1548
@chrispastore1548 11 ай бұрын
I am confused by the two separate pumps. We use hydraulic systems at work the move multiple cylinders off 1 pump. I also wonder how every single piece of heavy equipment does it, considering the drive system and boom are all run off the same pump. Can someone explain if there is something I'm missing about these two cylinders? Otherwise, both trailers look nice and have some neat features.
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 11 ай бұрын
We have dual acting pumps on order for the DTX, soon we'll be able to operate the jacks and telescopic cylinder off of one pump!
@chrispastore1548
@chrispastore1548 11 ай бұрын
@@Maxxdtrailersofficialvery nice!
@oblioyou
@oblioyou Жыл бұрын
Why did you not load to the rated capacity? There is not one mention of the steel prep, type, or gauge. Is it possible they will not be able to lift the full load?
@nealamberg807
@nealamberg807 Жыл бұрын
I think the only reason they didn't load to rated capacity is because they wanted to have roughly the same amount of gravel weight in each trailer to make it a more even comparison. But good point none the less.
@SummitAggregates
@SummitAggregates 3 ай бұрын
By the way guys...this is why many plow trucks have scissor dump bodies...The telescopic cylinder is stronger, no doubt...but, the scissor, is much much more stabile if you're dumping while moving like many dump plow trucks where the body is part way up running around town plowing.
@eric4947
@eric4947 Жыл бұрын
Why not max them out or even over load them to see how they dump... I would have liked to seen that scissor dump front loaded at FULL capacity...
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial Жыл бұрын
We loaded both trailers as close to capacity as possible without overloading as we don't have scales nearby. Once scales are set up in our shop we'll be able to load the trailers some more.
@NAMCBEO
@NAMCBEO 5 ай бұрын
*To each his own in preference, but !* As a mechanic on many and operator on a little less, overall the telascopic lift is far more dependible, with far less matainance, less repair cost in hinge pins and pin bore replacement when needed. As for tip over concerns "Stupid gets what stupid does" Keep it level left to right, stop when it stops being level !
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 4 ай бұрын
That's right!
@justinnieves984
@justinnieves984 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative. I have now added MaxxD to my consideration list. Thanks!
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial Жыл бұрын
We appreciate the feedback!
@CliffsideStables
@CliffsideStables 6 ай бұрын
What gauge metal do you use for your flooring? Is there a seam in the middle of the floor?
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 6 ай бұрын
10 gauge floor is standard on both trailers, which does have a seam down the middle. 7 gauge floor is optional, the 7 gauge is a one piece floor without a seam down the middle.
@tomg1807
@tomg1807 7 ай бұрын
NOCO actually offers a waterproof through panel plug adapter, so you don't have to notch the toolbox leaving an opening for water ingress or pest insects
@yeezyraisedme
@yeezyraisedme 3 ай бұрын
I don't really care about the speed but it's nice they're pretty close to each other. The telescopic seems like it could get off balance easier, not having as much of a boxed frame attaching the cylinder to the trailer like the telescopic does. I can imagine that cylinder is priiiiicy to repair if something happens. I personally like the scissor design and will probably go with one of them
@t.l.robinson2162
@t.l.robinson2162 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that a trailer with twin cylinders would be the strongest. I was very surprised when in side tests the telescopic was the strongest. All of my trailers are equipped with telescopic cylinders.
@shawnwood9875
@shawnwood9875 8 ай бұрын
Not necessarily. If the pump is large enough then your good but my double cylinder will not lift a food heavy at capacity load
@joeshaffer2506
@joeshaffer2506 Жыл бұрын
That’s a good comparison on them I never heard of that name brand on trailers?
@vanblindguy4600
@vanblindguy4600 25 күн бұрын
All it would take is one load, loaded to far to the front of the scissor lift,(or a load shift during transport) and your stuck shoveling or having to use another piece of equipment to unload it to make up the time difference 100 times over. I would be curious to the electrical load on the batteries during lifting of both systems. Is one system capable of more lifts than the other?
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 22 күн бұрын
Right on, typically in a scissor hoist dump, too much weight forward of the hoist would keep it from dumping. This is why we use a 6" cylinder over the industry standard 5". It's got much more pushing power, overqualified for the job. In this video we did load both trailers front heavy and they both dumped without hesitation. We haven’t tested to see which unit handles more lifts yet. Stay tuned-we’ll put both to the test and share a video soon!
@shanechostetler9997
@shanechostetler9997 9 ай бұрын
Speed is directly proportionate to the gpm of your hydraulic pump and the volume of your rams.
@kwmiked
@kwmiked 11 ай бұрын
Where these made? Whats the light weight? I think i missed that
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 10 ай бұрын
All of our trailers are 100% built in Texas! Both trailers should weigh in at 4,500lbs to 5,000lbs depending on how you build it out!
@scottcureton6055
@scottcureton6055 Жыл бұрын
Look well made. What are empty weights?
@paulheidbreder
@paulheidbreder Жыл бұрын
10:49 in the video.
@russellsullins2821
@russellsullins2821 Жыл бұрын
Needs some odessy extreme batteries to complete the maxx d
@johnwright6403
@johnwright6403 Жыл бұрын
How much for 20’ trailer?
@zbigniewteterycz1571
@zbigniewteterycz1571 6 ай бұрын
SUPER IDEA . POZDRAWIAM .
@vaalrus
@vaalrus 11 ай бұрын
When we bought our 16’ dump trailer with a scissor lift, the first first load of fluffy screened topsoil was too much for the hoist to lift. Went to the hoist manufacturer, and discovered they sold that hoist with two different diameter cylinders. Why the trailer builder put the smaller unit on a triple axle heavy capacity unit, I’ll never understand. Swapped in the bigger unit, and it’s never failed to lift anything we put in it.
@joefran619
@joefran619 4 ай бұрын
What trailer is cheaper to maintain? The lift section I'm sure would be expensive to repair.
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 4 ай бұрын
The telescopic cylinder is easier and more affordable to replace if needed. Since it’s bolt-on, there’s no cutting or welding required. Both systems have proven to be reliable, and the maintenance costs for both trailers are similar. However, the telescopic system requires less maintenance, with fewer grease points and easier access to the cylinder, which is located at the front instead of underneath.
@JohnDoe-ud2cc
@JohnDoe-ud2cc 9 ай бұрын
They are very nice trailers but definitely out of my price range
@basiliohernandez5111
@basiliohernandez5111 Жыл бұрын
If I am buying a dump trailer, I am worried about it lifting and dumping every time. I have seen better performance out of telescopic systems vs scissors.
@giacalonebuilding4443
@giacalonebuilding4443 9 ай бұрын
I have a 2019 PJ 14’ 4 foot sides with a scissor and it dumps as much weight as the truck (2019 L5P 3500) can handle no issues. Occasionally with dirt will need to shovel the front for 10 minutes or so by hand but only when extremely over loaded
@psdaengr911
@psdaengr911 8 ай бұрын
What I thought it was going to be is a commercial, and it was.
@humansreact
@humansreact 4 ай бұрын
I am looking to get my first dump trailer soon but as far as i am concerned who cares if one is faster all i see is me not having to unload it by hand
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 4 ай бұрын
The DTX Telescopic Dump has more dumping leverage, sounds like you found your next trailer!
@WS-gw5ms
@WS-gw5ms 9 ай бұрын
They look nice
@canadacopiers
@canadacopiers 6 ай бұрын
Telescopic should have the same, 2 vertical beams under the middle of the bed.. Prevent rippling bed.
@Logan7P88
@Logan7P88 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see 10k single wheel axles as an option, will that be offered anytime soon? I am ready to place an order.
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial Жыл бұрын
The prototype is currently in testing. This will be the DSX model coming later this year!
@ronnieg6358
@ronnieg6358 7 ай бұрын
In UK the max trailer weight on a car licence is 3.5 tons. If it's similar in US then these trailers are heavy commercial grade.
@el_chavez
@el_chavez 4 ай бұрын
In the US it’s about 12 tons… 25,000 lbs. before you need a commercial license.
@JoeSmith-zc3ec
@JoeSmith-zc3ec 11 ай бұрын
Dual telescoping
@kmilton1593
@kmilton1593 2 ай бұрын
I missed the prices. My other small trailers have torsion-bar suspension, not springs. What is wrong with torsion?
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 2 ай бұрын
Both torsion and spring suspensions have their uses. Torsion axles generally offer a smoother ride, but their advantage is more noticeable on longer trailers, making the benefit less significant for these dump trailers with a maximum length of 16 feet. While torsion axles also provide a better ride height, these trailers already have low ground clearance due to their 8-inch frame. On the other hand, spring suspension is stronger and more durable, making it a better fit for the heavy-duty demands of dump trailers.
@tanako98
@tanako98 5 ай бұрын
So which trailer costs less? Asking for a friend
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 5 ай бұрын
Apples to apples, the DTX Telescopic dump is about a thousand dollars higher than the DJX scissor hoist dump.
@dannydivine7699
@dannydivine7699 Жыл бұрын
Shouldn't that wet lead battery be isolated from the other electrical components to avoid issues with the corrosive off gasses while it's charging
@Eddie-f6t
@Eddie-f6t Ай бұрын
Where are those trailers made ?
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 29 күн бұрын
Our trailers are built in Texas!
@barton694
@barton694 Жыл бұрын
Nice video Even front loaded to show the superiority of your scissor lift with the 6 inch ram......try that with a big tex or a pj
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial Жыл бұрын
The 6x20 hoist make a huge difference!
@andyvaldez26
@andyvaldez26 6 ай бұрын
What Guage steel are the sides and the floor?
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 6 ай бұрын
Both units come standard with a 10 gauge floor and sides. A 7 gauge floor is optional with 10 gauge sides.
@taylorsutherland6973
@taylorsutherland6973 Жыл бұрын
All things being equal, slower means more power. You dont want mechanical advantage on a cylinder. Direct acting is the most power.
@kpkp42
@kpkp42 11 ай бұрын
4:40 - pi has entered the conversation!
@hvcellis
@hvcellis 10 ай бұрын
I want to see which one can dump more weight.
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 10 ай бұрын
The telescopic would have more lifting power due to the dumping leverage. The telescopic cylinder is rated for 12 tons!
@clydeacor1911
@clydeacor1911 Жыл бұрын
What kind of steel and how thick are the floors of these trailers?
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial Жыл бұрын
10 gauge steel standard, 7 gauge is optional!
@matthew2hunley290
@matthew2hunley290 Жыл бұрын
Since the comments are off, I'll comment here, why not turn the scissors system around so it lifts the front of the trailer instead of in the middleish.
@clydeacor1911
@clydeacor1911 Жыл бұрын
@@Maxxdtrailersofficial 10 gauge is pretty thin for a floor on a dump bed, that's only 1/8th inch. Is it AR450, AR500, or just regular steel? All my big dump trailers for semi's, and dump trucks are standard 1/4 inch AR450 or Hardox which is equivalent to an AR450-AR500.
@giacalonebuilding4443
@giacalonebuilding4443 9 ай бұрын
@@clydeacor1911with 12” centers you’d probably break the axle before the floor
@Lamar1956
@Lamar1956 Жыл бұрын
Scissor lift will lift faster simply due to its location.
@strykerv1620
@strykerv1620 11 ай бұрын
flip the sisscor lift 180... and the dump angle goes up higher... your limitkng the range with in that orientation.
@Wingnut-123
@Wingnut-123 9 ай бұрын
Why does the telescopic have to have a separate pump and battery for the tongue jack. Use a hydraulic switch valve and use just the one pump and one battery and you would have more room. Less maintenance and less cost
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 8 ай бұрын
We recently switched to a dual acting single pump to operate both the bed and hydraulic jacks!
@VictorGillen-e1i
@VictorGillen-e1i 11 ай бұрын
I thought this video was about telescopic vs. scissor.. typical salesman...
@maxcarter3413
@maxcarter3413 6 ай бұрын
Exactly. I skipped to the end.
@JuarezDerrick
@JuarezDerrick 6 ай бұрын
Yep the whole video is trash 👍
@fhuber7507
@fhuber7507 Жыл бұрын
Telescopic needs more fluid volume. Pump flow rate limited for speed.
@end0828
@end0828 Жыл бұрын
Telescopic is where it’s at 👍🏼
@alexhilton4657
@alexhilton4657 8 ай бұрын
Wow that is very similar to my pj almost the same!
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 8 ай бұрын
MAXX-D dumps may look similar to a PJ, however there some differences that set us apart, here are a few. PJ crossmember spacing is 16" to our 12" spacing. Our 8k axles come standard with 16 ply tires. We offer an industry leading five year structure warranty, PJ offers a three year. MAXX-D dump trailers come standard with a TUFF wireless remote for all functions. We also build our dumps on a heavier frame, 8"x15lb to PJ's 8"x13lb frame.
@alexhilton4657
@alexhilton4657 8 ай бұрын
@@Maxxdtrailersofficial oh wow! That is a very rugged trailer I'll have to try one next! I really like over built stuff that makes it last really long. And very reliable!
@mdsloads
@mdsloads Жыл бұрын
Telescopic is the way to go.
@reychingon74
@reychingon74 9 ай бұрын
Well I like the red one for many reasons. And the fast move is not one of them
@adirondackwoodsman
@adirondackwoodsman Жыл бұрын
Nice looking trailers. I had a hard time believing the weight of the trailers empty. My 10,000 pound dump weighs between 2500 and 3000 pounds. You weren’t weighing the trucks too were you?
@jccorder1
@jccorder1 Жыл бұрын
They weighed trucks with trailers
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial Жыл бұрын
Yes, the gross weight includes the trucks. The trailers weigh anywhere from 4,500 to 5,000lbs.
@briansmith8405
@briansmith8405 4 ай бұрын
Those cycle times are unacceptable. 2 minutes to lift up 😂
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 4 ай бұрын
the cycle times are pretty standard across manufacturers. A 2-minute lift time is common for most dump trailers using electric pumps. However, the new DSX dump trailer comes with two KTI pumps, making the cycle time much faster.
@modquad18
@modquad18 11 ай бұрын
A magnet on the back of that wireless remote would be awesome
@legend7ify
@legend7ify 11 ай бұрын
G'day, My immediate thought. Cheers, Malcolm.
@francomtz7115
@francomtz7115 Жыл бұрын
Single axle dump takes care of it all
@mattywho8485
@mattywho8485 Жыл бұрын
Not if you actually use it for work !
@dirtgreaseoutdoorpeace6637
@dirtgreaseoutdoorpeace6637 11 ай бұрын
Nice!
@coryhiatt9152
@coryhiatt9152 21 күн бұрын
The problem with scissor lifts is they dont utilize the entire leverage of the length of the trailer, I have had them both, and I will never buy a scissir lift dump trailer again!
@beauvaistrucking6365
@beauvaistrucking6365 11 ай бұрын
Telescope lift over scissor lift any day
@tstep522
@tstep522 11 ай бұрын
Why in the world would you need two separate pumps to add a Hydro jack?!
@shawnwood9875
@shawnwood9875 8 ай бұрын
You don’t just a diverter valve
@murraybowden4108
@murraybowden4108 Жыл бұрын
you have the cylinder on the telescope on backwards you start from the biggest part of the cylinder and the higher it goes up the faster it gets
@krististanley8508
@krististanley8508 Жыл бұрын
Why would that matter which way it's mounted? You can see in the video the biggest sections are extending first. Although mounting the cylinder on the bottom would have saved a lot of hose.
@t.l.robinson2162
@t.l.robinson2162 Жыл бұрын
Overload the two trailers. The telescopic will still dump while the scissor lift is struggling to lift.
@upnorthyooper1196
@upnorthyooper1196 9 ай бұрын
The loads should have been put in the center of the trailers, not piled at the front.
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 8 ай бұрын
Correct, you want the load over the axles, evenly distributed. In this case we intentionally loaded them both front heavy to showcase the lifting power in both trailers.
@rickyarmstrong9267
@rickyarmstrong9267 Жыл бұрын
Looks nice but very expensive
@mattywho8485
@mattywho8485 Жыл бұрын
So what ? If you spend an extra grand or two when you buy a trailer, you won't have to replace the cheap POS in 5 years that you "saved" money on.
@diywithjonandpebbles
@diywithjonandpebbles 6 ай бұрын
Be nice to see a manufacturer build a tongue to let a guy use an equilizer hitch like on a travel trailer
@chadlambert3186
@chadlambert3186 7 ай бұрын
We have both trailers on the tree service company. I work for. The tires are junk on them
@NotSure2030-kw9yh
@NotSure2030-kw9yh 11 ай бұрын
bitchin design, only thing I would change is one hydraulic pump, hydraulic manifold and a 3 way hydraulic valve
@RyanKeys-i6z
@RyanKeys-i6z 9 ай бұрын
Why does anyone give a &/:! how fast the box goes up and down?
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 8 ай бұрын
Time is money. In cold weather the fluid doesn't flow as quickly and can take a few minutes to drop the bed down.
@AlexMitchell-ch5fh
@AlexMitchell-ch5fh 4 ай бұрын
Scissor lift dumped faster.
@chinahydrauliccylinder1375
@chinahydrauliccylinder1375 Жыл бұрын
why not use one pump to control hydraulic jack and telescopic cylinder?you know hydraulic jack and telescopic cylinder not working together.
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial Жыл бұрын
The four function pumps are currently on order for the DTX. They will be available soon!
@chinahydrauliccylinder1375
@chinahydrauliccylinder1375 Жыл бұрын
Great!Look forward your video!@@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@aaronwarren1675
@aaronwarren1675 10 ай бұрын
Great vid 👍🏾♾️😎✨♠️🦍
@Hitman-ds1ei
@Hitman-ds1ei 11 ай бұрын
Is it just me or is that massive drawbar and tiny hitch seem either drawbar is over engineered or hitch is under engineered regardless of rating !
@carlatamanczyk3891
@carlatamanczyk3891 8 ай бұрын
The terrible drawback to transplant realtors moving to Montana and Idaho and inviting wealthy out of staters to move in is that it has made housing prices crazy expensive and killed the proverbial American dream for the native born resident young families unable to afford to buy or even rent housing.
@saltymofo5870
@saltymofo5870 11 ай бұрын
When we have a race and no one wins
@everettdrum894
@everettdrum894 Ай бұрын
no MSRP
@SezginSac
@SezginSac 4 ай бұрын
Hello, we do sheet metal cutting and bending works, our stock and machines are very wide, we would like to work with you.
@henkbarnard1553
@henkbarnard1553 7 ай бұрын
I am going to need a bigger truck.
@King_TuTT
@King_TuTT 11 ай бұрын
now that's a beefy trailer. NICE
@Thinkle911
@Thinkle911 11 ай бұрын
Maybe someone here can tell me, why a boring standard 3-side dumper is not a thing in the US. In Europe it's complete standard for construction side vehicles, noone would give up the immense flexibility to save minimal amounts of money.
@AztecWarrior69_69
@AztecWarrior69_69 8 ай бұрын
Never ever will I ever get a telescopic dump trailer. Even if it was given to me brand new, I'd sell it and get a scissor.
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 8 ай бұрын
Everyone has their preference for sure, you can't go wrong either way. I'd like to hear more about this, what do you like more about the scissor over a telescopic?
@AztecWarrior69_69
@AztecWarrior69_69 8 ай бұрын
@Maxxdtrailersofficial well in this case you can go wrong and a very bad way. Telescope is prone to failure. And not just it simple fails in loss of compression but they collapse. The fact that the longer it extends the more chances it fails. More later.
@Maxxdtrailersofficial
@Maxxdtrailersofficial 8 ай бұрын
@@AztecWarrior69_69 Thanks for the feedback! That would be a cause for concern for sure. We've been building telescopic dumps for many years and compression failure isn't something we've seen yet. The DJX is a great option as well for the scissor hoist guys, the 6x20 hoist is a beast!
@AztecWarrior69_69
@AztecWarrior69_69 2 ай бұрын
@@Maxxdtrailersofficial "We've been building telescopic dumps for many years and compression failure isn't something we've seen yet. " Let me put it this way. I have seen MANY MANY Videos of catastrophic failure of telescoping dump trucks and trailers. From the tipping factor to just plain blow outs. I am sure there are SOME videos of scissor lifts doing the same but I have yet to actually come across any. I have never actually did a search either but any time I naturally come across a video, it's always a telescopic lift that is shown having catastrophic failures. I mean you can link me to however many videos of a scissor lift failure and I will link back ten for every one you can find. I mean seriously the proof is in the pudding.
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