May, November or January - When Will Sunak Call the Election?

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By-elections have raised questions about the upcoming General Election. Uncertainty looms over the election date. This video examines potential dates and implications for the Conservative Party.
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[@martinbennett2228]

An important complicating factor for Sunak are the Council Elections in May. A General Election on the same day could be helpful for some Tory MPs; on the other hand, without a General Election, a disastrous set of local elections would be difficult for Sunak and any decision on a General Election look like a panic response.

[@stephenpimm5940]

And four years ago the Tories did really well, so they have further to fall

[@kityhawk2000]

Holding on for Jan 25 would also be disastrous it would smaxk of desperation and having no plan

[@gothicgolem2947]

It’s also the mayoral elections

[@M2Ys4U]

In addition to council elections and mayoral elections (with three new CA mayoralties being elected for the first time), there are also the London Assembly elections and 39 police and crime commissioner elections

[@christopherdwane2844]

A General Election on the same day as Council elections will probably help Tory councillors with getting re-elected but it probably won't help Tory MPs much, because lots of Tory voters who normally only vote in the general election would also be voting in the Council elections, but the same doesnt apply vice- versa.

[@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500]

The only question now is how much more damage can the Tories do to their polling and the UK in general in the months leading up to the election?

[@Anthony_Romford]

go look at what damaged labour caused when they were in power for 13 years under blair and brown and you will find out why they have not been elected in 13 years not under miliband corbyn and the only way starmer will get into power if he keeps letting more and more people into this country that is how bair got into power

[@nevertrustatory9412]

Yes

[@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500]

@@nevertrustatory9412 username checks out

[@nevertrustatory9412]

@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 I should get some T-shirts printed…

[@oscarmike3482]

trời ơi

[@vault34overseer]

Given no matter what, tory will lose in a landslide in the next election, I think Sunak will just wait as long as he can to call for an election.

[@zuluwarrior1648]

What landslide.Not the way with the civil war in Labour.

[@goych]

Not everyone is obsessed with power

[@jillybe1873]

Wife wants out. She may have already left him. She's got the girls in school in California

[@Talisguy]

​@@goych Whatever you think of Sunak's character, there's a chance that he might cushion the blow slightly if he waits it out, however slim, and it's in both his and the party's best interest to at least close the gap between themselves and Labour before the next election. There's a chance that can happen next year, but no chance they can rally with an earlier election.

[@RavenGhostwisperer]

Sure, they will lose, just like the last few times. Same people will vote for them again and with FPTP they don't even need a majority vote to get the majority of seats

[@samthompson7568]

Should: immediately Will: as late as possible, ignoring warnings from the rest of the 5 eyes security community.

[@taipizzalord4463]

If he wants to cause maximum chaos he should call it so that it is on the same day as the US election.

[@adblocker276]

How is that going to cause chaos? And to whom?

[@stormyprawn]

@@adblocker276 Twitter would be chaos for a week and that's pretty funny.

[@TheSuperPsychoKiller]

@@adblocker276Cyber hackers / criminals will want to ruin high profile elections or scam voters of fake donations.

[@jamessteel9016]

Sure the Russians would be delighted interfering in two major elections

[@taipizzalord4463]

@@adblocker276 Because it would open up the UK to election interference, which would only help the Tories, given the polls.

[@jasonk7072]

Immediately. He should call the election immediately. Sunak has no mandate, the undead spectre of his predecessor had no mandate and recent by-elections have shown the people want this government gone. There is not one single aspect of life in the UK that is better than it was ten years ago.

[@greyghost2492]

if you think Sunak cares about any of that, then I've got a bridge in London to sell you

[@gothicgolem2947]

He does have a mandate as his party chose him. And we are in winter or about to be so no it’s not a good time to call one if your Sunak

[@Joanna-il2ur]

Neither Gordon Brown nor Jim Callaghan had a mandate then.

[@kolebaby12]

​@@Joanna-il2uryes. britain is not a meaningfully democratic nation.

[@jonsmith5058]

@@gothicgolem2947 I am tired of this tosh. He has a mandate to implement the manifesto Boris presented. The audacity of a new PM like him or Truss to go a totally different direction is apalling. I despise Johnson but people voted for his stuff. How dare Sunak do things like roll back net zero or cancel HS2. He has no mandate to and should call an election.

[@LillyP-xs5qe]

They should have called a general election when bozo resigned

[@SaintGerbilUK]

And I'm sure you agree that Tony Blair should have done the same before handing over to Gordon Brown and then sold all of our gold reserves?

[@jim-es8qk]

I actually agree with this. Sunak has no mandate to rule.

[@bepisguy6963]

@@SaintGerbilUK Gordon Brown sold off our gold reserves way before Blair resigned

[@jmaitland5709]

@@SaintGerbilUK Yes

[@LillyP-xs5qe]

@@wakaisgood they should blame the Tories, screw them,

[@dm121984]

I think that Sunak will leave it to the last moment - there is no good chance that the Tories will keep power, and he's shown he's going to loot what he can before being kicked out.

[@HappyGingerWolf]

Probably not literally the last moment, I wouldn't expect a 2025 election, but probably in winter if some news comes up he thinks might help himself

[@dm121984]

@@HappyGingerWolf true, he'll likely call it slightly sooner but not by alot.

[@jamessteel9016]

Ideally as early as possible, but this is inaction man we’re talking about. Going to say October 2024, and what would’ve been conference season in September will be the election campaign itself.

[@rtozier2011]

I don't think they will choose to wipe out conference season. I think they will call the election for 1 August, so that their 2024 conference will be able to start afresh with a new leader (if they lose), rather than have conference in government, plan a bunch of things, then immediately lose power and have to throw out all your plans.

[@mastertrams]

Oh, I wish he was inaction man. Instead he cancels HS2 without consulting anyone, never mind the people that matter (I.e. Parliament, Network Rail, HS2 Ltd.)... You might almost be able to call it a dictatorial decision...

[@Argentocoxos]

Surely May is more likely than November. It's harder to get the elderly voting block out in winter than spring.

[@Superking.Menthol]

Tories managed fine in December 2019!

[@FranzBieberkopf]

@@Superking.Menthol That was as much an anti-Corbyn vote as a pro-BloJo one, so there were a lot of erstwhile Labour or LibDem voters around then.

[@tommonk7651]

From across the pond, I suspect Sunak will wait as long as he can to call an election. But it appears the Tories will be crushed in any event. If he was smart, he would call the election as soon as possible, take the loss, turn the problems over to Labour, go into opposition and start attacking Labour when and if their efforts are ineffective.

[@xMasterAssassin93]

There are so many reasons why a later/latest possible election wont be called. One of them is that there are still many Tories in the party (not just MP's) who have to face the inevitable defeat and survive to become electable again in the near future. Sunak might be the one who makes the decision, but those within the entire party - especially those that have to keep the party propped-up once he runs off to America - will be pressuring him to call one with the threat of a leadership election and being forced to step down so that a new leader can call one for a 'fresh mandate'.

[@Copyright_Infringement]

He's going to call it as late as possible. I've been calling this since Sunak took office

[@jamal22958]

Lol. Like we can trust these lot anymore. Theyre all controlled by america and israel.

[@jamal22958]

Britain is no longer democratic. Its starting to look a lot more like Afghanistan with suella banning protests and slogans.

[@jackdubz4247]

Sunak is done for regardless. Might as well rip the plaster off and do it in May. Then he can get his Malibu mansion sorted out.

[@willieckaslike]

Yesterday would not be soon enough !

[@Shakwackla]

Today. Sunak should call it today.

[@rosebreeds5057]

I turn 18 in august. I’m praying for an autumn election. 🙏

[@Redsleather]

Please don’t vote Tory 👍

[@rosebreeds5057]

I wouldn’t dare lol

[@Idk-ys7rt]

I think he'll declare it in either May or October 2024. At the moment, I think he will call it in October 2024 to give himself as much time as possible.

[@ricardobarahona3939]

​@@wakaisgood? They've been in power for 13 years, where is their "personal responsibility".

[@Themistocles30]

​​@@wakaisgoodBS!!! Stop talking out of your backside, Tory boy. Have you been hit over the head or something?

[@liamastill6733]

Living standards were continuously dropping since before the pandemic. Anyway it's about time that labour deserves a term

[@OrionTails]

​@@wakaisgoodI say replace them with a more proactive government. Cutting taxes just won't _cut_ it anymore. We need to deregulate the housing market to make it easier to build more homes, and give the NHS more resources to ease the burden on public health as few examples I can think on top of my head.

[@Alinamartinez--]

​@@wakaisgoodare you drunk?

[@jumior]

obviously, they wait for as long as possible they're not gonna stop the gravy train until the last stop.

[@mckay91uk]

Hopefully It'll be May 2024

[@johnburrows3385]

Now........would be nice ! But with the unelected Rishi saying WE,the public don't want an election ,we'll just have to wait 😢

[@curtisdaniel9294]

Inflation will go down because everyone will be broke...no money, no spending....🙄

[@theconqueringram5295]

Well, for the greater good of the UK he better call one ASAP.

[@someguy-eh9mg]

They think about themselves and then the party and a very very very distant 3rd the country.

[@sofftskies3769]

As early as possible honestly. I didn't vote the bastard in but I'd be more than happy to vote him out.

[@djtomoy]

Why does the the uk even bother with elections and parliament etc, does it even matter who in charge? Our prosperity and safety is decided by forces beyond our control these days anyway.

[@Mandeley100]

Any chance of a week on Thursday?

[@DrVictorVasconcelos]

Five years is way too long for a term.

[@bobi6191]

Sunak will wait until the very last moment because that gives him the best chance of recovering in the polls. I doubt the Tories will recover but I believe he will cling to power as long as he can.

[@lachd2261]

They’ll string it out til November

[@The_Midnight_Bear]

Move to STV/proportional, already.

[@ecaeas4439]

Not that easy I'm afraid. Self-preservation from both the tories and labour unfortunately & the media claiming it would make politics unstable.

[@danielreid338]

I also heard that from the News Agents Podcast that the UK may not be able to have an election in November for security reasons. Since computer security has risen as a threat that hasn't been an election in the Five Eyes Security Network countries (USA, UK, Australia, New Zealand and Canada) at the same time. The US has an election in November and its is obviously going to be very contentious. There are some saying in security circles that to help prevent national security risks, best not to have at the same time as the US, as security systems will already be stretched.

[@Vepr005]

To get more people informed,I sincerely hope that you can have the word or pdf of transcripts of your videos shared👍

[@inspectortanzi]

He knows he doesn't stand a chance, so he'll prolong it as long as possible - to give him and his cronies more time to go scorched earth and grab what they can in the time possible.

[@mattwright2964]

If he had any sense he would have called it already. Actually making a genuine campaign point here on this occasion. The longer he goes the worse its going to get for his Party. His aim should have been to act responsibly, have a budget that aims to address the issues and go as quickly as possible. Cynically he might even save a few necks on his side as well. Overall though I just think he has blown it completely as if it wasn't bad enough.

[@robertjones9200]

They will most likely hold on until the last possible moment

[@zigowl1193]

Immediately. I think most of us are ready and waiting.

[@tobytaylor733]

love ur vids bro - great uk political analysis

[@SaintGerbilUK]

Do you not mind the bias? You may not have noticed but they categorically do not criticize Labour.

[@hs0008]

⁠@@SaintGerbilUKTheir videos are pretty objective..

[@SaintGerbilUK]

@@hs0008 so can you give any examples of them showing something Labour did negatively? The recent division in the party over Israel and Palestine? The flip flopping on policy? Coverage for the Labour MP who said someone needed to throw acid at someone they didn't like? Weird how they never get to those stories...

[@giantputt7066]

As he knows he is going to get thrashed he will leave it as long as he can

[@ciarand2823]

I'm not voting for a man who lost to the lady who lost to a lettuce

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

If the polls keep dropping, Sunak should just give in to stop further bleeding.

[@smellslikethinice1107]

Sunak knows he is terrible, he knows he is unelected, he knows he will lose. But he can drag it out until 2025....that's what makes the UK democracy look really ridiculous.

[@antscymru]

PMs are never elected by the public.

[@jonathanodude6660]

...most democracies work like this. democratic governments can only come down in a no-confidence vote, a coup, resignation(s) or dissolution by the head of state. (coalition collapse or party fracture would ethier be a vote or a resignation to formally end the term.)

[@smellslikethinice1107]

@@jonathanodude6660 do you know how sad it is reading your comment. Completely defeated, compliant, no resistance, just apathy of a terrible situation. Unless you're a globe trotter you have no idea who behave like brits. I have come across it...we're regarded as amusing, like a crazy uncle.

[@jonathanodude6660]

@@smellslikethinice1107 I would call myself a globe trotter at this point, and that is my experience with democracy. We can choose to have an unchanging leader or a leader that has a set term. There are basically no other alternatives. Votes are polls and barometers of how people are feeling. Voting every year or more would be untenable in terms of costs and the administrative headache of changing leaders every year as well as the apathy in the population. The system isn’t terrible, it’s the best we’ve got. Democracies have flaws, but this is not a flaw, it’s a practical limit. I still have my British passport but I only vote in Australia and our elections are every 3 years with very little variation on when they’re called (a few months or so). A lot of people still feel like it’s too often (we have mandatory voting). I kinda agree. Kinda. Our politicians like to rush everything through in the first couple months US-style but not because they’re losing the house in 2 years, but because they could be losing the job in 3. There is no use resisting the best we’ve got. You should focus on resisting FPTP imo. We don’t have that here and it means the majority are happy with the result basically every time. We have STV and RCV and we have PR: we rank the parties by how much we want them in government, and our votes go to the first one we picked. If no party wins a majority, the party with the least votes are eliminated and their first choice voters votes are redistributed to the second choices, if no one wins a majority again, The party with the least votes are eliminated again redistributing first and second choice votes and that process continues until there are only 2 parties left, at which point one of them must win a majority from the third place party, and the outcome is by definition the majority preferred outcome, since the last 2 choices are decided on how many people ranked one party over the other, with other parties becoming irrelevant at that point. This is tied to constituencies. Then we have a senate/ upper chamber which is based on PR. After voting every party gets a division of the senate proportional to their vote share across the entire country, not based on any constituency. Direct democracy almost. With these two systems I think our democracy is the strongest in the world and is immune to the polarisation of the American system and the frequent coalition collapse of European systems. Right wing progressive Independents had a very strong showing last election taking power from our right wing conservative party in the house and the extreme left wing greens are well represented in the senate which means the centre left government must pay attention to both the right wing moderates and the left wing extremists to govern effectively, making them the most appealing government we’ve had in a while for most people. I don’t see that happening in the UK anytime soon.

[@smellslikethinice1107]

@@jonathanodude6660 again.. you make it sound as its inevitable that we be lumbered with posh, entitled idiots. Look at Iceland, the nordic countries, France and how they protect each other as a collective. Brits throw each other under buses with glee, because they believe the political narrative. Johnson on the steps of No 10 as he resigned in disgrace said the UK was a Darwinian society ( I double checked)...but he is absolutely correct. Thatcher introduced it and brits gobbled it up. It's not politicians it's us ...British people...

[@ethanpender9586]

Sunak should cut his losses and call immediately, but he'll probably wait until Dec '24 to call.

[@jonathantatler]

Soonak can call his election whenever he likes, the tories are done either way

[@Prepilot]

Party conferences are in late September/early October, not November. So the parties would build up funds (and morale?) just before a November election.

[@awhi3765]

November. He’s going to wait as long as he can without seeming too desperate to hold on.

[@AngryAnt0]

The pessimist in me thinks it will be 2025. Only so the tories can wreck havok a teeny bit more and funnel even more money into the pockets of their mates. The optimist hopes for May 2024, but I can't see it happening, the only way would be if the letters did go into the 1922 com and he jumps the gun and calls one to stop them sacking him.

[@Croz89]

Assume you mean May 2024, unless you have a time machine!

[@AngryAnt0]

@@Croz89 Good spot, although I did say it was the optimist in me!

[@Bobbybulsara179]

If Sunak waits then it plays into Labours hands, he won’t leave it. He will wait until there’s a scandal in the Labour Party before he calls it

[@brachiator1]

An election should be held as soon as possible. Sunak's pledges do not necessarily conform to the people's needs or expectations.

[@someguy-eh9mg]

True he chose them himself, they were not the peoples priorities.

[@JM-jc4up]

The last general election was 12 December 2019 not 17 December. I only remember this because it was on my birthday.

[@rtozier2011]

Yes but 17 December is when that parliament began sitting. The law says it must be dissolved no later than 5 years after it began sitting, which means the latest possible general election is 6 weeks after that date.

[@JM-jc4up]

@@rtozier2011 Thanks for explaining the significance of 17 December, I hadn't realised that. However, TLDR still made an error in the video by saying that 17/12/24 is "exactly 5 years since the last general election".

[@maxafc4695]

According to the betting markets a November election is by far the most likely

[@JohnRowsell]

When the Tory media have sufficiently rubbished Labour

[@helmetmcbaron]

Sunak is obviously going to delay as long as possible the Tories know there doomed

[@osx86x]

What is certain is unemployment for these politicians. Consider it a consolation for the damage inflicted to the country

[@kazpandu]

If the tories fix the economy in a year. I'll eat a boot

[@quintuscrinis]

5:28 both? I thought this was talking about the UK? We have at least 6 major parties over here and many more smaller ones!!

[@tt-ew7rx]

Everyone is making these predictions with only a single aim in consideration. This is that the election will be held in order to maximize the number of seats the governing party will win. However, there is another aim at play here, which is the desire for the current MPs to stay in their jobs for as long as possible. Most people, when they sign up to a fixed-term work contract, want to serve that contract to the full unless resigning early makes it more likely for them to find a new job. Given that for a large number of current Tory MPs, an earlier election does NOT boost their chances of retaining their seats, surely there is an incentive to serve out their terms to the full. Sunak represents his MPs, more or less exclusively (he certainly does not represent his party's membership), so he must take this into account and this means that Nov is probably more likely than May unless the party is doing exceptionally well close to May.

[@7sevensevern]

As soon as possible.

[@pilgrum23]

Yesterday, not soon enough

[@Vivek-zw3ex]

You left out an important contributor. The longer he waits, the more people will be coming off their pre-Truss fixed term mortgages and into the interest rate hell the Tories spawned. But seriously, this is a government without a plan and without a mandate. They exhibit their total shamelessness with every second they continue to cling on to undeserved power.

[@endzone13]

Yeah thats true but a lot of people (as proved in these comments section) are angry and want a general election. Approx 60-75% of the population do aswell so the longer he waits the more angry the country will get and they will end up getting demolished like 1997 and 1945

[@jonathonjubb6626]

When? Now! ASAP!!

[@Ganjor420]

This whole system sounds sooo undemocratic… Can’t be just me who sees this super unfair advantage for the party in government, right?

[@mauricetucker8754]

A bad local elections in May losing large number of councillor and council with October before the clocks changing with better weather are the best thoughts

[@joshuaalexander8866]

Main two things to consider are where uni students are during the election (and how that interacts with the 2021 census boundary changes) and how cold/rainy it is likely to be. Uni students are most likely to be anti tory, while young people are more likely to be put off by miserable weather than old people. Remember Blair won with only 35.2% of the vote once, small changes matter.

[@lawrencemaitland]

Sunak will be looking at the weather. If its freezing cold outside then a lot of people won't vote and that 'could' be a good thing

[@hannahk1306]

The average Tory voter is typically older and therefore more likely to be affected by poor weather conditions though. Also, the average voter for Labour or Lib Dems are probably more likely to opt for a postal vote (which isn't weather dependent).

[@marktopp745]

NOW.

[@scottholmesfootball2785]

Call it now

[@Nannyirene]

Tomorrow for a nov election.

[@clundgeweep]

Immediately

[@tiptoptonic]

you forgot the impact of the fixed term mortgages coming to an end in the next year. Many voters will currently be shielded from the shock increase and so the longer he leaves it the more voters will have to refinance and hit with higher mortgage rates.

[@zax1998LU]

The monarch always accepting the request of the govermetshows how little checks and balances there are against the executive. The head if state needs a democratic mandate so they can actually deny requests from the PM as necessary. For example if when the PM wants to prorogue parliament early in 2019.

[@christianround2774]

If the UK and US elections take place on the same two days in November, the markets won’t be happy. I also don’t fancy pulling two all nighters in a row.

[@inSearchofVikings]

How about right now!

[@YilmazMamedy-xs3gn]

Conference season is September and October, not November

[@tonybroderick4808]

Call it now and take the narrow win, then start to rebuild back better.

[@spikefawkes5152]

NOW!!!.

[@robicjedi]

That is a long winded don't know.

[@Steviebond2]

May would be the realistic and the best option for the Tories, considering what will follow right after that month. But it seems Sunak doesn't want that, and would much prefer to hold on to the bitter end. November would be suicide for national security reasons (US Presidential elections) and I can see the moderate Tories (or whatever is left of them) getting very vocal over that. Should he choose Jan 2025, and the Tories will be very lucky if they don't fall below 100 seats, let alone 150.

[@leometz7287]

How would the US Election cause national security issues?

[@kimaspindale9721]

Yesterday Honesty Integrity.🤔 They are doomed anyway

[@endzone13]

@@leometz7287 Both are the most powerful NATO members and UNSC members which would make it easier and much more risky bc theres no doubt there will be interferance from Putin and China

[@leometz7287]

@@endzone13 wouldn't that make it safer actually? I mean it's harder to interfere with two electrons than one

[@endzone13]

@@leometz7287 Russia has such an insane spy network it wouldn't matter with the difficulty of interferance plus the Chinese have loads of social media platforms like tiktok which they can influence

[@fateenshareef8716]

Could you guys do a video on FTPA ? Like why it came about , it's merits , demerits and should it have been abolished or not.

[@rxbracho]

A November election would obviously coincide with the one in the USA. Any thoughts on that?

[@al_l6418]

Whoever has to deal with Trump again

[@jared3049]

I'm expecting November. We're due for a UK US Election double bill.

[@al_l6418]

basically switching leader - UK will get a centrist left-wing government, US a far-right government

[@actuallypaulstanley]

Now. Also follow the ABC’s of voting; Anything But Conservative

[@charliedring4092]

It'll be on the 24th October for sure

[@VLC8792]

In 1979 Jim Callahan left it to the latest possible date to call a general election & got hammered by the Tories ( Thatcher ).

[@andyh-u2b]

November 2024 is a problem as it will coincide with the US elections, and January will mean the election will be fought across the Christmas - New Year holidays when voters are less receptive.

[@jediknight2350]

it doesnt matter when he calls it there out.

[@jackcassidy7317]

As an American I’m so used to elections being set in stone unless somebody dies or resigns. If the speaker of the house could call for elections whenever they wanted it would be madness. Well more madness than usual.

[@Joanna-il2ur]

Only the local elections have to be held at a fixed time. In 2001 Tony Blair postponed the general election by a month because of a major foot and mouth (hoof and mouth) outbreak

[@Kris_96]

Soooo basically he's gonna do nothing and wait for things to fix themselves and then he'd take credit for it all? Sounds about right I guess.

[@Yutappy99]

Sunak could find the cure for cancer and I would still not vote for him or the Conservative party.

[@maboelnreads]

Yesterday. There. I fixed it for you.

[@Paul_C]

How about next week?

[@Royboy50]

Tomorrow

[@1sostatic]

Sunak has already shot both his feet, and his floppy manhood . I predict even if he holds out to wait until factors to some of the damage they have done has improved, they'll still get hammered.

[@alice1374]

What's the chance Sunak ignores the legal date, given he wasn't even elected democratically?

[@chrisd1982]

There should be criteria under which the government is forced to call one, there meant to be the people's chosen government but its pretty obvious that people on large want any one but them

[@1peter1180]

Right now

[@DeepakVerma-cd4fe]

June 27th 2024 would be the best time to call a election. Because people start to go on holiday in July till September. June 27 2024 would be the best idea . Margaret Thatcher always used to carry elections in june.. late June would be ok for me . June 27. Parliament can dissolved four weeks before z28th of may parliament can be dissolved. The reason why I’m saying late June also is because so it can’t conflict with local government elections. June 27 2024 . Holding back till November would be not a good idea. Because it’s dark and wet . Like it has been this month.

[@TypicallyThomas]

It should be possible for parliament to vote for dissolution. Probably would have to be one of them "two thirds needs to be in favour" things but it makes no sense to let the election be called by the person who could be the worst off from calling one

[@JanSenCheng]

It is. A vote of no confidence from parliament dissolves the current legislature and if no new government can be formed (which is likely the case if a confidence vote is being called), then a general election in automatically triggered. The problem is that the Tories currently control more than 50% of the seats in parliament, and many Tory MPs are going to lose their seats in a general election, so they're never going to vote against Sunak's government. What we need is a proportional voting system so politics is no longer dominated by just 2 major parties. Look at the German or Dutch system, every single election results in loads of parties with seats in power, so every election requires a coalition to form a government, and coalitions are much easier to bring down with a confidence vote if and when the Prime Minister and his party start showing that they're incapable of leading. Unfortunately, Labour's historically been very fence-sitty on the issue of voting reform, and Torylite Starmer has vocally opposed it, so even with the Tories out, we're unlikely to get voting reform unless people back smaller parties in the upcoming election.

[@leometz7287]

​@@JanSenChengGerman here: Our government at the moment is the least popular it has been for decades. There still is no chance for an early election for the very same reasons as in the UK. Right now, all parties from the coalition would lose heavily in an election, therefore the incentive for the incumbents is to keep the unpopular coalition going. Coalitions only end early, when one of the parties could gain a lot in an early election. I still think our electoral system is better than the UK's because you have a better choice between the parties. But be careful not to become like Italy.

[@mattevans4377]

​@@JanSenChengWell why would the major parties undermine their own power? Why would anyone who gets in via the FPTP system? You'd need saints in charge for it to change, and politicians ain't no saints.

[@eddiecalderone]

@@leometz7287 What works for Germany might not work for the U.K.. In fact it doesn’t

[@DylanSargesson]

That was effectively how Early Elections were meant to be able to happen under the Fixed Term Parliament Act -- the 2017 GE was called that way. But when the government wanted the 2019 GE they couldn't get the opposition votes to get to 2/3rds so they just passed a new law with a regular majority.

[@Kj16V]

Sunak should call the election yesterday. So we can get the Tories gone already.

[@rolandharmer6402]

‘...both parties...’ ? It‘s a lousy system that only gives us two choices. Roll on PR.

[@iesroo]

I don't like labour but anything to keep Sunak out of power! And throw him out of Parliament!!