This Video Will Change How You See Knights...

[@charlespg3d190]

answer: Engines have shown Bishops are slightly better. Bobby fischer says Bishops are 3.25 points while Kasparov says 3.15 BUT knights can be annoying for as they can jump all over the place and is more likely to fork, whereas with a bishop the pawns can be placed on the opposite colour

[@random_memes_68419]

Imo, at lower levels knights can be useful but at high levels, bishops are for sure better

[@hackstargaming1253]

​@@random_memes_68419i agree 👍

[@bgshorts7533]

@@random_memes_68419not for sure a queen can be worse than a bishop sometimes

[@tongpoo8985]

Knights are a lot harder to calculate accurately for. For engines and top level GMs in classical, bishops are better. But in blitz/bullet and for low rated players, knights can be difficult to manage. Especially if there is only one bishop, then half the squares on the board are completely inaccessible to it, so as long as you keep your pieces on the opposite color complex, you don't have to worry about most tactics outside of the bishop participating in a mating net.

[@AkashYadav-qs1cv]

Shut up jerk, Knights are better than Bishops in mid-game. Knights are far better than Bishops in opening and Middle game where people like you don't even reach.

[@Bruh-bk6yo]

As it was in a saying, in russian at least: knights and bishops are like a hat and a boot. In the winter, the hat is more useful than a lone boot, but better to pick a pair of boots over two hats. (In this context - the knight is the hat and the bishop is the boot)

[@faizameen2170]

The two bishops be unstoppable in the winter though 😂

[@OutdoorsWithChad]

Haha that's a great analogy. For me if there are a decent number of pawns on the board and it comes down to a single piece, knight vs bishop, I'll generally take the knight because it can fight on both squares. A single bishop is blind to half the board. I would almost say a knight is worth 3 points, a bishop is in most cases worth 3.25 points, but the bishop PAIR is probably worth 7 points and will run circles around a single rook.

[@darthzackariusnickthenamethede]

@@OutdoorsWithChad Bishops have one important advantage over knights: newer players have a hard time keeping track of bishops. They can easily blunder a bishop snipe from across the board. Speaking from experience here.

[@czer096]

​@@darthzackariusnickthenamethedebut also a beginner easily forked with a horse

[@adityapacharne5688]

Instructions unclear i pissed in my pants

[@keithg460]

Knights can smothermate kings. They are best to attack queens. They are harder to calculate. They are better in close quarters. They attack without a direct line of sight. At the end of the day, the preference depends on the layout of the board.

[@mikesmithz]

I think it depends on who I'm playing. Some players are terrified of knights and some are terrified by bishops. I have played against people who just fall to bits once I get an active knight. So for me, I like both pieces equally, but it's my opponent who guides me into choosing between the 2.

[@thechaparral]

Nice point of view. I am better using knights than bishop and I dont like when my opponent has 2 bishops, I am always in trouble hahaha

[@mikesmithz]

@matheusbraga2909 I have to admit, I definitely fall into the "terrified of knights" camp. When I play against the computer, he obliterates me once he gets his knights active (or an early knight attack). I can handle the bishops...but those forking knights are a pain when they are used by someone who knows what they are doing.

[@Player763ZIZ4Z]

at 1:07 he completely neglected the fact that with the bishop applying pressure black can block with knight to f5 and that knight is protected by a pawn that's on e6

[@stephen3293]

This channel deserves more love. So much effort put into this!

[@GMPranav]

Knights have some serious buffs in some of the chess variants too - like atomic chess. So in the bigger bigger picture things are balanced.

[@Luna________]

I really have a blind spot for knights. It can happen with the sniper bishop too but with the knights it's just so much worse and i blunder forks that lose me the game way too often

[@polarvortex3294]

Just imagine what it was like when knights first gained their jump-over power. Guys must have been getting surprised left & right.

[@klaptonr]

A bishops relative value is more volatile but better on average. In engames having a bishop pair is invaluable, allthough having only one bishop might result in your opponent restructuring their color complex, shutting it out.

[@Fitness_Club147]

5:10 the arrows with the night look like a spider

[@ghostmantagshome-er6pb]

I got better with knights when I stopped thinking of the move as an " L" ,one,two, over. I started looking at the squares next to it on the rank and file and then the diagonal ones that fork from it. I could see two moves at once. Also the piece made more sense when it didn't " jump over " pieces. It began to look like a hybrid super pawn and the continuity of how the pieces move makes more sense. I read it in the beginning of "Bobby Ficher teaches chess". Oh, and they take turns on the colors they can move to. If a knight is on a dark square it can only land on a light square and visa versa.

[@ghostmantagshome-er6pb]

edit: sorry for being redundant.

[@jasonbenic6324]

For me, that was fantastic. and ive deen a few things on the knight. If this stuff is new 2 u then this is fantastic

[@dariusjain2493]

but knights are insane in middlegames and begining

[@A7MDRetr0]

Depends on the position

[@katmanduYT]

No shit buddy ​@@A7MDRetr0

[@soakedbearrd]

I know objectively bishops are slightly better, but in my games I seem to do better with knights than with bishops. Call it pattern recognition or whatever, but I almost always prefer knights. Only exception is the bishop pair, I’ll take two bishops over two knights, but again it’s situational, the knights would be better in a closed position and the two bishops can get caught up facing walls. That being said, two bishops in an open position is murder. Good video btw especially tips on knight avoidance.

[@Janine-m6i]

I really like the content you make about chess espetially these types of videos but i was wandering where can i see more of these chess strategies like the square rule … because everytime i search on KZbin i only see tutorial for begginers

[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

great insights - thanks

[@Dante-yb4he]

At low elo knights are nightmare for any player at high you gotta save your bishops

[@crosscharayt986]

Well said

[@johnhonai4601]

I'm 850 rated player. I faced this in several games, when I have less time on clock the knight jumps like a madman and forks my pieces. It's true. Knights are a nightmare for low elo players especially towards end game.

[@CrimzinEclipse2010]

I like that knights and bishops are both the “sneaky” pieces in chess: The knight can pull off those annoying forks that you didn’t spot, and the bishops can just snipe your hanging pieces from across the board.

[@LarzinPvp]

Nice video fr

[@Arsenniy]

nice vid

[@letsnotgothere6242]

You sound like Michael Crouch, the guy who narrated My Side of the Mountain on Audible👍🏻

[@neolithictransitrevolution427]

If you can trade your Knights in the early game to keep a more open center, then the bishop pair is very strong and you should try to keep until the end game. If you have your pawns completely controlling a colour, that colours bishop is basically paralyzed and the game is probably closed, so trade it early and trade the opposite bishop by the end of the middle game, and keep the knights for the end game (unless beneficial or a lost cause obviously) Those are my rules for thier value.

[@Sratis]

According to the position is how we know if the Knight or the Bishop is better

[@psynergy007]

I agree 💯

[@ShadowShadow-j8c]

In endgame with bishop opponent can put all pieces in opposite colour making it useless, so I'd prefer to have a knight

[@justsaadunoyeah1234]

Yeah good reason but bishops can control squares and with the king they can do a gorgeous job when pushing the king away. They can easily make a wall and make space. So I prefer bishop in endgames but knights are still okay.

[@geoffreygeorge999]

a knight is better if the pawns our on the same side while a bishop is superior if they are on opposite sidew

[@jerviswinter3236]

If you have a Bishop vs a Knight in an endgame, you should push your pawn and try to make a queen. Knights can't attack and defend at the same time especially if it is at the opposite side of the board so use that to your advantage.

[@justsaadunoyeah1234]

@@jerviswinter3236 oh wow bro in an endgame you have to push your pawns thank you for telling me this i definitely didnt know already and everyone else in the world who has a brain didnt know this already

[@mmmu9638]

This video changed the way I see knights

[@vyrtilanyrwen3071]

Look, at the end of the day, it’s all very dependent on the position. If it’s a question about trading your bishops for knights, your knights for bishops, or a question of making any other trade, you shouldn’t care about whether what comes off the board is materially equal. It’s not about what comes off the board, because those pieces can no longer play (unless you’re playing bughouse). It’s entirely about what stays on the board. What’s the quality of the pieces left on the board like? Are your pieces active? Are they pressuring your opponent’s position? You know, if you’re up a rook, but my pieces are mating your king, it doesn’t matter that you’re up a full rook. The quality of what’s left on the board for me is better, and your king is still getting mated. But hey, at least you can die with a full stomach. And, actually, a pretty simple rule of thumb for trading is to ask yourself whether the trade will help you or harm your opponent. If it does neither, the trade probably isn’t worth it. And this is actually a pretty big part of strategic chess. It’s a lot about looking at the good pieces your opponent has vs the bad pieces you have and trying to come up with plans to get rid of your bad pieces for your opponent’s good pieces. Well, that among other things.

[@lalalalalala-xf1vg]

obviously it depends on the position, even a pawn in some cases can be better than a queen if it's mating the enemy king or if it's close to promoting, that said, can you really say that a pawn is relatively equal to a queen depending on the position? obviously not, because everyone knows that the queen that queen is worth 9 points and a pawn is only worth 1 point. the main point of this discussion is to understand which piece would be better in most cases, or in an equal/quiet position. and obviously, the answer for that is the bishop as top grandmasters and even the computer all says that the bishop is better than a knight. there's no argument for this if we look at things objectively, but in lower elo and in blitz or bullet, I'd say that the knight is better than a bishop

[@vyrtilanyrwen3071]

@@lalalalalala-xf1vg, all I was saying is that you need to be careful applying general rules universally. The material table can be a helpful guide for determining what trades are equal, but it ultimately just depends on the position. Don’t just make a trade because it’s equal material points on both sides of the trade. For instance, trading two minor pieces for a rook and a pawn when, uh oh, it’s still a middlegame position where you’d be better off having minor pieces vice a rook. Players very often hear a general rule and try to over-apply that rule, and while it will usually work, that’s not always the case, I’m just trying to caution against over-applying this general rule.

[@jozsefkovats7250]

1:10 why not use the knight now? if they push their pawn then u can take for free with ur queen?

[@kingsgambit7098]

Your pawn structure often dictates which piece is better. A rook is often better than two minor pieces in an endgame, but the two minor pieces are better in the opening/middle game. Not surprising when you find out that two rooks are better than or equal to three minor pieces. The point is that it really depends on the position. Sometimes a queen is better than two rooks or a knight&rook is better than a queen. The one thing we can be certain of is that the pawns are the most important pieces on the board as they define the structure. Chess is a beautiful game that has a lot more than tactics.

[@francecountryball9413]

If position is closed bishops are not that useful If position is opened Bishops are beast

[@nict4343]

Me, a 900elo, have already solved this years ago. Two bishops is better than two knights. One knight is better than one bishop.

[@Daniel-__]

While the bishop pair is certainly stronger than a knight pair, there are many nuances that requires these positional distinctions. You can stuff a bishop’s movement with two pawns in a closed position while a knight finds a brutal octopus fortress - or a knight can be on the wrong side of the board as a bishop exerts pressure on long, open diagonals. The reason why the “bishop is better than knight” heuristic works is because most popular openings lead to rather open endgame with often two pawn islands - perfect for a bishop to both defend and attack. Of course, on the flip side, a closed pawn structure that might emerge from a French or more offbeat opening like a hippopotamus have strong, positional knights that seek holes in the position to occupy. This is the entire basis of imbalances - the idea that different pieces at different positions have different strengths depending on the different positions. Of course, a material advantage is a more static kind of advantage compared to good positioning, but as many gambits will show, piece coordination can be worth far more than a pawn - and especially more so than some 15 centipawn material advantage heuristic.

[@Manu-rt3mp]

u are 900 for a reason, chill

[@TheChadPad]

Two Knights seem just as good as two Bishops. Bishops are easily blocked, but if you have two Knights, there is no blocking them.

[@Daniel-__]

@@TheChadPad Again, a piece's worth is dependent on the position, so any "x is better than y" argument has counter examples, but I think generally a bishop pair is stronger than a knight pair just because of the checkmate potential and maneuverability in the endgame. Getting two knights in your opponent's side can wreak havoc (especially because they can team-up on a weak square while a bishop pair cannot), but generally it's easy enough to avoid these positions by clamping down on knight maneuverability with your pawns and pieces. Sometimes a better player will be able to maneuver to get a knight outpost, but two knights in your backlines sounds like bad positioning

[@TheChadPad]

@ Well, perhaps bad positioning, but perhaps good play from the Knight player. I think they’re equal, as there are a million positions that each of them would be good in, like you said. I think the traditional weighting of points for each, 3 and 3, is correct.

[@Thoughtful_Thought]

Thannks

[@Canary_10]

0:53 i would play Bc2 sacrificing the knight because mate

[@seranganalambaka7354]

im low elo, and this is the best video chess I watch

[@bahwateengezeur7516]

I just ask myself will this be a knight or a bishops game?

[@hershelfowler6257]

When my opponent is shaking their head after both knights have infiltrated their position. I say " Oh no look who they let through the backdoor. Obi wan and Anakin, Jedi Knights." But i like bishop's for end game. Its easier to escort pawns, attack pawns, and harass rooks without alot of calculating.

[@vroomcar6328]

Really helpful thank you

[@danielszczypka6977]

Depends. But overall Bishop is about 3.15, Knight 2.7; 3 pawns are very good compensation for Knight.

[@nathantecson396]

Bishops are better. This is engine supported, and even before super engines bobby fischer already believes bishops are worth more than 3 points. Kasparov also supports this. But just like there are situations where a 3 point piece is better than a rook (5 points), there will definitely be situations where a knight is better than a bishop. The main reason why bishops are generally better is that they can control more squares on the board than a knight. This is why bishop pairs are so strong. However, mortals like us have nothing to do with the engine, kasparov or bobby fischer's level. Beginner and intermediate is where most people actually are, and they are far more likely to miss a knight move because its not just following an open straight line. I noticed so many people in the intermediate trade their knight for a bishop so quickly, yet they will not be able to explain to me why a bishop is better and why that knight was less valuable than my bishop in the given position.

[@judahdadone9410]

“Camping conditions” = outpost!

[@PurpleSkies_]

This is truly 1000 elo analysis structured in a way to pander 9yr olds.

[@tyrano_gaming4683]

An arm made of "forgot to make other arm"

[@kylemariano6624]

Imagine pressuring the player so much the bishop breaks the laws of chess 😭😭💀💀

[@AidanMoore-y1u]

Low elo knight beats Low elo bishop Mid elo bishop beats Mid elo knight High elo bishop beats High elo knight GM knight beats GM bishop

[@A7MDRetr0]

Engines have proven bishops are slightly better

[@justsaadunoyeah1234]

GM knight loses against GM Bishop

[@igtre6270]

Funny. Thank you.

[@KokichiAyanokoji]

Pt2 pls

[@jahmeergordy205]

The true answer is whatever piece I have at that moment, I control the effectiveness of my pieces not the other way around.

[@XChaka]

Finally!! Bishops are bettter

[@CheeseballTheClown]

Bishops are very annoying my favorite piece is the rook but the knight has just a way to be different but effective and knights aren’t annoying as long as your carefully unless if they are defend knights are gods at defending diagnosing from queen or bishops

[@Anonymityfan]

Most GM's say bishops

[@bulatomat]

Real answer : it really depends on what skill level you are and the position

[@hongxiawang2049]

Ok yeah but with that there are certain positions where a knight is better than a rook but are they equal?

[@bulatomat]

@hongxiawang2049 can you clarify? I don't understand how a knight can be equal and better than a rook at the same time

[@Cameraman_edits765]

an alfil is 3.20 knight is 3.25 and "a piece that jumps over one square verticaly and horizontally" is 3.30

[@medfirasjrad4113]

Knight and rook can mate without the help of the king

[@peterreid9769]

I much prefer playing against Bishops than Knights.

[@chastitywhiterose]

Bishops are objectively better but humans have a hard time predicting my knight forks.

[@Cr0c.]

imo bishops are better

[@Heart-pq3oi]

Knight is far more iconic

[@jonmurray9735]

Can't we all just get along?!?!?!?!?!?!

[@nfrankiksa4596]

And who are u?

[@WilHars]

🔥🔥🔥

[@ThePaulGomes]

Bishops > Knights for me all day. Sniping is fun

[@SLAsher-rr9fg]

Only one can't touch every square…

[@medfirasjrad4113]

And knights can jump on top of the pieces and we fork ausually with him

[@rameshadhikari8092]

I fear knight more than rook

[@kukulis100]

bishop better than knight, except queen+knight duel.

[@THEarrasBuddhist]

Yeah, hardest choice

[@dessinart6692]

Knight moves on L like legendery

[@iBMcFly]

""Which is better"----that literally depends on A-the pawn structure in the middle game. B-Pawn location in the end game. The position dictates the value of the minor pieces, and the 3 pt valuation has been proven to be accurate over time because of the points mentioned above.

[@TheGushroom]

Does Margaret know that you are using her photo in the thumbnail as clickbait?

[@medfirasjrad4113]

And he is the best piece for forks

[@pokethegreat4145]

Knights are cooler so knights

[@justsaadunoyeah1234]

Bishop cooler imo

[@applecider1624]

knight in a strong post 5points.. bad bishop 1point useless rook 1 point noob queen 5points passed pawn 2points... most pawns are female that when they grew up the adulterous king wanted to have another queen..

[@Newtopsito]

fischer said it

[@tiagobordin6580]

at his level bishops are better, not at my level

[@NolmanZ]

Knights can retaliate a bishop attacking them, the opposite isn't true

[@lehoangtong654]

2:52 Weakness

[@puppet9577]

Ok a bit of a change of subject but the bishop is worth 3 points and the rook is worth 5 and a queen is worth 9 but 5+3 dosent equal 9 my first thought was that the queen cant castle and thats why rooks are worth more than bishops but that would mean that the queen should be 8 points and the bisop would still be four let me know if anybody has a anwser to this and also if the bishop should be worth 4 and the knight should stay at three because 2 knights is a draw and and 2 bishops is a win

[@HridaanNaik]

BOTH ARE EQUAL.

[@michael2244]

Knight is better than bishop 🐴

[@Omegaess]

No

[@chewbaccasaw5232]

Knight is melee Bishop is archer

[@Mu7amed-Osama]

Am I the only one calling the knight horsey 😂😂

[@anitarawatnegi5129]

No

[@jamesdylan1522]

It is called “paard” (horse) in Dutch.

[@DIYGrow-c8x]

Pony, horse, stallion😂

[@DIYGrow-c8x]

​@@jamesdylan1522interesting i love languages ❤

[@indiangamersouvik947]

I say Ghoda 😂😂😂

[@thichchuianti]

25/9/2024

[@JD-xz1mx]

"that might be unethical in chess terms" Oh quite the opposite. Its unethical in Chess terms to shame someone for utilizing the clock. The ethics of the game *are* the games' rules. The clock is every bit as much a part of the game as the knights and bishops. Getting upset with a player for leveraging time advantage is no different than getting upset with them for leveraging a material advantage. It is fundamentally ridiculous and ought to be embarrassing for the one doing the shaming, not the one leveraging the fairly won advantage fully in accordance with the game's own intended play design.

[@KiaanAvyaan]

Bishop weaker

[@Bdigamestz]

You remind me of 5 minutes craft

[@tiagobordin6580]

Bobby and Stockfish think bishops are better. Who do you think you are? A super GM? If not, like me, knights are much harder to deal with.

[@fahimfuad92]

That's another way of saying skill issue

[@justsaadunoyeah1234]

You just have a skill issue u 200.

[@justsaadunoyeah1234]

At my level, Bishops are way more effective

[@tiagobordin6580]

@@justsaadunoyeah1234 you must be good bro, but not at my level and for most of the players 🤣

[@aaronwong235]

Duh, the rook is better because it's worth 5 points

[@katmanduYT]

Wow beta 🔥🔥🔥

[@BobChess]

I love bishops pair. Knights pair is horrible

[@szarixon2798]

The only advantage a knight pair has is the fact that they can defend each other. However they get sluaghtered by a bishop pair in an endgame even with pawn up sometimes.

[@BobChess]

@@szarixon2798 Fact, but it's still worse than 2 bishops by a lot. It's good only when position is close.

[@KuroiRenge]

If we took the human element out of Chess, the Bishop is better.

[@karloballa6476]

Lot of b******s. Bishop is probably on average a little more often a better piece than knight, mostly when paired with another bishop, but here in the video so many dogmas are stated that it is unbelievable. I advise the author to look at the game Anthony Saidy vs Robert James Fischer in 1964.

[@YourIceKing]

Hi Mayhem Chess, I really enjoy your content and admire how you focus on chess! I would love to connect with you because I have an idea for a collaboration that could benefit us both. Could you please share your email or another way to get in touch? Thank you, and keep up the great work!