Mazda Miata Documentaries NC | EP4 Forcing Change

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savagegeese

savagegeese

Күн бұрын

In 2020 we have seen reviews and drives of several generations of MX-5, we continue the Miata Documentary Series on the NC, with help from Mazda Designers and Engineers. We let them explain the story of how it was created and why it is still relevant today. The NC Miata was a big change compared to the original cars. Sit back and discover the good and bad of the NA, NB, NC and ND cars and what it is like to drive them.
This is an Independent Project Produced By Savagegeese
Sit back and enjoy the Series.
EP1: Why The Miata Exists • Mazda Miata Documentar...
EP2: NA Miata - The Beginning • Mazda Miata Documentar...
EP3: NB Miata - The Evolution • Mazda Miata Documentar...
EP4: NC Miata - Change in Culture
EP5: ND Miata - Return to Form
EP6: ???

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@TheCapn23
@TheCapn23 4 жыл бұрын
Love hearing the engineers/designers geeking out over their creation. You can really hear the passion.
@jub07
@jub07 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, this is some of the best automotive content and high production value, as usual. Kudos and hope to hear more behind the scenes discussions of some of the great enthusiast vehicles. Really awesome to hear the perspective of designers/engineers.
@mm-hw9ku
@mm-hw9ku 4 жыл бұрын
The Engineers Wife hate that passion. I can hear the nagging now. “ I betcha you love that car more than me “. That’s why I am single.
@PressurenFlames
@PressurenFlames 4 жыл бұрын
The fun part is: You could make a video about almost every single vehicle which is driving on the road (well, ok.. maybe not about a Dacia Logan or other very low budget cars) and you would find the same passion there.. It's mostly about the people involved in the Product Development. They are the variable which gives the cars their "querks and features" and the character. I've worked in the development department (body parts) for two totally different OEMs in Germany and have noticed the same passion from my side and also from my colleagues even the products being two absolutely different leagues (economy car & sportscar).. I've kept this passion now being a Product Manager - it helps a lot regarding requirement creation for engineering and also for technical understanding. Sadly most Product Managers didn't get in contact with any engineering before creating some "wild" requirements for their research/engineering colleagues - you'll notice this immediately.
@cottagegymfun
@cottagegymfun 3 жыл бұрын
They are so proud of their work. I'm happy for everyone involved because the end product is completely awesome
@hartmutflemming2045
@hartmutflemming2045 3 жыл бұрын
Thank,s...all miata Friend,s wih really Passion .......for ever !
@lexus_offroad_adventures
@lexus_offroad_adventures 4 жыл бұрын
Love how he justified having forged internals for “reduced NVH” 😂 get this man a medal
@PressurenFlames
@PressurenFlames 4 жыл бұрын
Good argument for upper management do/don't decisons ;)
@pd925
@pd925 4 жыл бұрын
Don't tell management what you're you're really after - let them think it's for NVH!
@CivicMikey
@CivicMikey 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the board would have appreciated "to turbocharge the f8ck out of it."
@jaball77
@jaball77 4 жыл бұрын
"But we're getting into the weeds here..." That's good! We need more content like this! It gives you insight into what goes into making these cars. The NC haters don't understand why the car is the way it is and don't appreciate the effort that went into making it better given the restrictions Mazda had at the time. Really great content. Keep it up.
@nealio990
@nealio990 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who has had to deal with those long bolts on the NA PPF to do a diff swap, he is absolutely right. They are such a pain in the ass.
@gregblack4581
@gregblack4581 4 жыл бұрын
I daily drove a nc for years. Fantastic car . I hope my new rf turns out to be as good .
@MisoElEven
@MisoElEven 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregblack4581 Did it?
@ftovr2957
@ftovr2957 4 жыл бұрын
Man I've never wanted an NC more than I do right now...
@TheDalitis8
@TheDalitis8 4 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@SomeTenth
@SomeTenth 4 жыл бұрын
I got one and I'm loving it!
@ronin84
@ronin84 4 жыл бұрын
Best car I've ever owned. I daily it with coilovers and it's still livable.
@DTevr89
@DTevr89 4 жыл бұрын
Pulled the trigger on a 14 Club. They're great!
@kyrosmike
@kyrosmike 4 жыл бұрын
and then ND video drops later...
@jimc5423
@jimc5423 4 жыл бұрын
I turn 68 in three days and picking up a 2006 in mint condition tomorrow. It is 4:00 in the morning and I can't think about anything else. I had 2 MG midgets in the early 70s and drove hundreds of miles a week between FSU in Tallahassee and my gf in Sarasota. I test drove this one by myself with the top down and barefoot and fell in love with driving again. My wife and kids look at me and shake their heads. I really appreciate the depth and quality of Savagegeese videos. Thank you.
@zaitcev0
@zaitcev0 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a curveball with the under-the-car segment. I thought it was going to be just "oh the car got bigger, we have a bigger engine" platitudes. This is phenomenal.
@ZZZRaven65
@ZZZRaven65 4 жыл бұрын
Not a curveball at all if you're familiar with SavageGeese's work. That's a staple of ALL of his reviews and is one of MANY reasons why he's my favorite of all the car channels on KZbin. EXCELLENT job, Mark! ...as expected.
@thenut1212
@thenut1212 4 жыл бұрын
This doc-u-series is any enthusiasts dream, and you guys are doing a phenomenal job. Thanks for all the time and hard work you guys have done to create a complete Miata documentary. 😘
@Jorge_Magallon
@Jorge_Magallon 4 жыл бұрын
Hearing Dave Coleman in the shop is like a master class on vehicle dynamics. Great video.
@tailsneon556
@tailsneon556 4 жыл бұрын
From way back in the day reading his articles in Sport Compact Car magazine. To seeing this content now. To getting to drive one of his creations every day. (I bought an ND2 RF Club) Absolutely fantastic.
@coscorrodrift
@coscorrodrift 4 жыл бұрын
Dude knows what he's talking about for sure, it's a delight to hear him talk about it.
@DearMajesty
@DearMajesty 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously. I know very very very very little, but man!
@DearMajesty
@DearMajesty 4 жыл бұрын
I friend requested him on facebook haha
@mikebishop3473
@mikebishop3473 4 жыл бұрын
Could listen to Dave Coleman all day. Great video goose.
@llStixxll
@llStixxll 4 жыл бұрын
This man is so passionate about the NC that he made me fall in love with it. I always thought it was the worst one up until I watched this
@Tooshi3Tom
@Tooshi3Tom 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the best one from a refinement standpoint. Everything feels better than in the na and nb. Way less rattles as well.
@MrCarGuy
@MrCarGuy 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tooshi3Tom ND is more refined in terms of quality.
@lordflyquad4721
@lordflyquad4721 4 жыл бұрын
Drive an NC (manual of course) on a good road ...you will be very surprised. And at the prices you can buy one for today, it's a lot of very sophisticated engineering for the money
@RetardedAsianGuy
@RetardedAsianGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Saying the worst miata doesnt mean much when all of them are great compared to other cars
@d.j.burton9952
@d.j.burton9952 4 жыл бұрын
NC’s have tons of potential, there’s a reason the Koenigsegg test driver owns a track-prepped NC. The biggest thing for people that have driven multiple gens is that those people older, floppy chassis’s give the driver more of a “this thing’s crazy!” Feeling. Less refinement makes the car feel more raw, which at legal road speeds can more fun and on the edge.
@espvp
@espvp 4 жыл бұрын
*sees SG published my most anticipated episode of this mini series: gets excited *Reads the title "forcing change": oh no, he's going to be harsh to my NC chubby boi *Gets Dave Coleman to present the NC: oh yeah, it's about time to get technical and give the NC some deserved recognition.
@polycarp87
@polycarp87 4 жыл бұрын
First thing Mark says when he gets behind the wheel: "It feels like LIGHTNING compared to the NA and NB."
@kend5698
@kend5698 4 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming this is the same Dave Coleman from Sport Compact Car, also the originator of the Dave Point. This guy single-handedly kept me from becoming some douchy ricer with a fart pipe. Thanks Dave
@the_proffit76
@the_proffit76 3 жыл бұрын
You mentioning “the Dave Point” made me dust off an old memory. LOVED Sport Compact Car in the late 90s. I have been away from sports cars for about 10 years driving FWD sedans. I am looking at getting a NC after driving a friend’s NB for awhile.
@grantapalooza998
@grantapalooza998 4 жыл бұрын
After watching the engineer talk about how much work is spent on creating the perfect feeling in a car over a giant horsepower spec sheet makes me respect Mazda incredibly. Even though they're a small company compared to Toyota and Honda and gm, they commit themselves to developing an affordable sports car no matter what naysayers say about it being slow. They deserve the utmost respect when all these other large companies co develop everything when they talk about they can't afford to do it alone *cough cough...Toyota* for this reason I will love Mazda, as the na Miata was my introduction to the company.
@zacharyparis
@zacharyparis 4 жыл бұрын
“To make a sports car really good it has to be on a dedicated sports car platform.”
@PressurenFlames
@PressurenFlames 4 жыл бұрын
Correct. This is why I dont understand all the "Sport SUV" bs.. Why we need an X6M? Is it really a sports car? No! This thing is heavy as hell and additionally has a very high sitting point of gravity. It is a heavy (even if fast in the straight line) tank with very low lateral dynamics..
@Pete0126
@Pete0126 4 жыл бұрын
@@PressurenFlames but 600HP bro! Lol seriously, the way cars are marketed now is all numbers and gimmicks. Consumers care less and less about how the car actually drives. We're lucky to still have cars like the ND available.
@geethsan1567
@geethsan1567 4 жыл бұрын
@@PressurenFlames We don't need those "coupe sports SUVs". The companies need them because they basically print them money. BMW made an X6 and saw it grew on numbers sold and they went on ahead with it. Hence why Cayenne, Urus, Levante, upcominf Ferrari SUV all exists.
@PressurenFlames
@PressurenFlames 4 жыл бұрын
@@geethsan1567 It was more a rhetorical question from my side ;) I know why these cars exist..
@MaximusRO
@MaximusRO 4 жыл бұрын
My NC has 10y now. Zero problems, just oil changes. Awesome vehicle !
@alexfou3814
@alexfou3814 Жыл бұрын
Well done! I m getting mine next week, after having a tigra for ten years, i hope it ll last that long..so 12 years if you still got it
@Zadnak1
@Zadnak1 4 жыл бұрын
As an NC enthusiast, this is a great video. It captures a lot of the shortfalls and improvements in NC over the revisions in such a positive way. Thank you for making this video.
@GeordsYouTube
@GeordsYouTube 4 жыл бұрын
“Wind the piss out of this thing” best quote ever
@Mexxx65
@Mexxx65 4 жыл бұрын
Mark better copyright that phrase quote ASAP !!!!!!
@NippyMoto
@NippyMoto 4 жыл бұрын
It's a very common saying in British English
@RussellChapman99
@RussellChapman99 4 жыл бұрын
In the UK we say 'Ring the nuts off it'
@mm-hw9ku
@mm-hw9ku 4 жыл бұрын
As I drive my NC I will be quoting Goose. Thanks.
@grahamhaynes7658
@grahamhaynes7658 4 жыл бұрын
@@NippyMoto 'rev the bollocks off 'used to be the term used.
@TheTopher
@TheTopher 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, so grateful for this series
@mike9rr
@mike9rr Жыл бұрын
"It's impossible to look at a five-link suspension and figure out what's going on." Love that one.
@josephyang8236
@josephyang8236 4 жыл бұрын
I've owned an NC which I sold shortly after getting married. For those who had the chance to deep dive into these cars, they'd know NC is unfairly under-appreciated. Also, the top-trim NBs were heavier than the baseline (or the clubsport) soft top NC's. Having the same engine block shared by the regular Mazda3, there are also plenty of replacement engines available from most junkyards (anywhere from $250 - $700) in case you blow one (it's a huge benefit if you race them). Paired with really robust transmission and just a solid car overall and ages very well. No rust issues like the old generations and can fit a driver up to 6'2" without a hassle. As it shares the RX-8 platform, the car is over-built in a way but it translates to much stiffer chassis than the NA/NB and Mazda really shaved the weight from all other areas to keep the car below 2500 lbs. (My GS trim weighed 2460lb with 1/2 tank of gas). I've driven every generation of miatas except NB1 and would personally rate ND2 > ND1 = NC3&2 > NC1 > NA2 > NB2 > NA1 in terms of driving fun (though all miatas are fun to drive by default)
@jasonjaafar
@jasonjaafar 4 жыл бұрын
For some odd reason, in terms of looks, I love the NC the most.
@ftovr2957
@ftovr2957 4 жыл бұрын
There's something about the proportions of all the lights and panels that really works well. The move towards the larger grille on the NC2 isn't 100% my cup of tea, but every time I see it now, I can see how it evolved into the ND. I think the ND has a great overall shape, and the smallness of it even compared to the NA/NB is impressive, but it's features are just a little too angular.
@Runoratsu
@Runoratsu 4 жыл бұрын
@@ftovr2957 I love the look of the NC3 front end! Still not 100% sold on the stange fender flares tho, even after owning one for 5 years… 😅
@jasonjaafar
@jasonjaafar 4 жыл бұрын
@@ftovr2957 You're right. I think it is the proportion. Also for me is the simple strong flowing lines. Not too rounded, just enough strong angular lines. Not too busy ala the new Civic.
@SoulTouchMusic93
@SoulTouchMusic93 4 жыл бұрын
@@ftovr2957 yeah, and the tail lights look like a chinese knock off jaguar.
@jonathanwiehe4398
@jonathanwiehe4398 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned the na and nb now I want an nc watching this video makes me miss Miatas
@WJK1022
@WJK1022 4 жыл бұрын
NC: unquestionably the jolliest MX-5.
@ryanforprez2008
@ryanforprez2008 4 жыл бұрын
This series is as pure as the Mazda Miata itself.
@WoodAndSteel92
@WoodAndSteel92 4 жыл бұрын
I never knew the NC shared architecture with the RX-8, that's really interesting. Still loving this series!
@arricammarques1955
@arricammarques1955 4 жыл бұрын
Shared RX-8 architecture without the rotary engine.
@agegonzo39
@agegonzo39 3 жыл бұрын
Likewise
@malice_wonderland
@malice_wonderland 4 жыл бұрын
I've owned Miatas since 1993, and I loved my NC so much I kept it when I bought the 30th anniversary ND. The NC will be my son's first car when he gets his license in 3 years :D
@__-fm5qv
@__-fm5qv 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, can I apply to be your son? xD
@simonvancoevorden295
@simonvancoevorden295 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t blame you ! I love mine .
@wockhardt_user
@wockhardt_user 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Ill be your son!
@owengoodspeed5763
@owengoodspeed5763 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky son!
@robertamoyaw1979
@robertamoyaw1979 2 жыл бұрын
My son already owns my Mazda ; they are little Hot Rods straight from the factory 🏭 n extremely dependable too! ❤ them 🤠!
@yoshisaurusrex3767
@yoshisaurusrex3767 4 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that the NC is something like an unloved child among its brothers. From what i can tell, many despise it just for not being the NA. Thank you for this video, it finally confirms what i have been feeling about how it drives for years now. I love my NC, even with the smaller 1.8 offered in Europe, and there will never be anything like it.
@MidnightClubStillCancelledSoz
@MidnightClubStillCancelledSoz 4 жыл бұрын
The most underrated Miata of all time
@MouseCIick
@MouseCIick 4 жыл бұрын
good.. least molested/beat on used miata. most ugly miata.. almost just as ugly as my mrs
@hartmutflemming2045
@hartmutflemming2045 3 жыл бұрын
Yes...
@kleinbottled79
@kleinbottled79 Жыл бұрын
We've had a NA Miata in the family since I think 2001. I remember when the NC came out. It embodied what we feared would happen with the model. It wasn't as light or agile, it didn't feel as mechanically raw, it shared a platform with the rx-8 (very unpure). It seemed like every car was getting heavier in that era and the Miata was another casualty. Sadly, we were so focused on what the NC wasn't, that we didn't properly appreciate what it was. A great lightweight roadster in it's own right.
@bluecollarben9836
@bluecollarben9836 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Uploaded just in time for breakfast. I got a tingling feeling that I might end up getting a Miata once this series ends.
@Runoratsu
@Runoratsu 4 жыл бұрын
You won't reget it!
@RyEmerick
@RyEmerick 4 жыл бұрын
My NC is a blast. Best bang for the buck fun car out there
@yoshisaurusrex3767
@yoshisaurusrex3767 4 жыл бұрын
No matter what generation you get, they will all be fun ;)
@grantapalooza998
@grantapalooza998 4 жыл бұрын
I had an na and I have to say it's a true sports car. People may rag on it being slow but its, it's own platform designed to have fully independent suspension and rwd. And being able to floor it everywhere is a blast
@thatoneotherotherguy
@thatoneotherotherguy 4 жыл бұрын
The Miata is far, far more enjoyable than its numbers suggest. I absolutely adore my ND2, and I think it's the best deal in new sports cars. "You can't drive a spec sheet."
@themancuniancandidate2744
@themancuniancandidate2744 Жыл бұрын
As Jeremy Clarkson put it when he reviewed the NC, "You waste your money on a Mustang or a Ferrari. The fact is that if you want a sports car, the MX-5 is perfect. Nothing on the road will give you better value. Nothing will give you so much fun. The only reason I’m giving it five stars is because I can’t give it 14."
@romwild2
@romwild2 4 жыл бұрын
Forged crank for NVH. Of course. That’s masterclass of how to have your cake and eat it too. I love Dave. Thank you again savagegoose
@oldatarigamer
@oldatarigamer 4 жыл бұрын
The NC sold better in the US than the ND has and that was despite the fact that the Solstice and Sky were being produced when the NC was introduced. The NC was a Car and Driver 10Best for 8 years of its production run. Its a great sports car and terrific Miata. IMHO the weight hype is just that, hype. Its still a tiny, lightweight car. Sure this car is about 150 lbs heavier than the ND, but its still a blast.
@Pete0126
@Pete0126 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, its only 'heavy' when compared to other Miatas, compared to all other cars its still light af.
@BruceLeedar
@BruceLeedar 4 жыл бұрын
As far as sales goes, that applies to all sports cars. The MX-5 was the small sports car for Boomers, and now the Boomers have got old and don't want a sports car anymore (or really any sort of traditional car with low step-in height). Gen X and Millennials either don't care about cars or can't afford the luxury of a second car.
@alansmilealot
@alansmilealot 3 жыл бұрын
@@BruceLeedar bingo
@heekim3373
@heekim3373 4 жыл бұрын
NC is the best proportioned MX-5. Such a pleasing design. I think it’ll age the best out of the series so far.
@HDpackage
@HDpackage 4 жыл бұрын
This video is on a another level. You've changed the game by giving dignity back to the people by trusting that they are smart enough to understand basic technical details on a product that should be valued for it's engineering but for whatever reason isn't in social and traditional media.
@robevans916
@robevans916 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Coleman has been the best since his Sport Compact Car days. Passion for engineering and Motorsports oozes from his words.
@raypakay7630
@raypakay7630 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the outstanding work. I just love my 03, Miata . This new generation Miata,is just, what is needed, for me to want to upgrade. Zoom- Zoom. Thank you MIATA. I can hardly wait!
@VuNguyen-hf7ev
@VuNguyen-hf7ev 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Coleman is so god damn passionate and I can listen to him all day. Please include him for all technical breakdowns!
@johnnypetro9314
@johnnypetro9314 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I feel like I’m in Miata heaven. This documentary needs to win an award. The under the car tour was rapturous. I want to be friends with Dave Coleman. Maybe I can work for him.
@MakisPapasPlus
@MakisPapasPlus 3 жыл бұрын
I own an NC but damn this 25th Anniversary edition is so hot!!
@monco3512
@monco3512 4 жыл бұрын
Whoa, 27 minutes of what I'm sure will be top quality content! Think I'll wait to watch this one in 4K from the couch.
@lmc333
@lmc333 4 жыл бұрын
worthy to watch it several time...
@monco3512
@monco3512 4 жыл бұрын
@@lmc333 Sure thing, watched it three times already. 😊
@smiles564
@smiles564 2 ай бұрын
I'm on my third NC. I have 2 actually. Has an NC1 in college, now have 2 NC2 and love them. I absolutely love them.
@GadgetyMV
@GadgetyMV 4 жыл бұрын
Great having Dave Coleman as our guide. In addition Savagegeese serves up the most tastefully produced online automotive channel.
@mm-hw9ku
@mm-hw9ku 4 жыл бұрын
As an NC1 owner I have been waiting for this episode. Thanks Goose my boat has come in !
@AdamSPARTAN76
@AdamSPARTAN76 4 жыл бұрын
Savagegeese should direct video production for the rebooted Top Gear. I remember another great piece he created on the NC years ago. This body of work will be cherished by the Miata community for YEARS to come.
@uniquelypositive
@uniquelypositive 4 жыл бұрын
You can just feel the driving passion at Mazda when interview its employees!
@GMak81
@GMak81 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought an NC MX5 here in the UK. It's the first RWD car I've owned, the first "decent" car I've owned. Picking it up tomorrow. Doesn't feel real yet...many adventures ahead, and I can't wait.
@carlosdad2204
@carlosdad2204 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 74 and own a base NC2 with automatic. This is everything I'm looking for in a fun drop top here in Florida. I've been through old classic convertibles and now just want something that is fun, reliable and not needing a constant supply of money to keep running.
@Mach5sun
@Mach5sun 6 ай бұрын
I’m a Honda guy with a civic, a fit, and an element and I was set to complete the set with an S2000. I watched the S2000 videos and all the Miata videos. Picking up my NC next week.
@shawnbauman5463
@shawnbauman5463 4 жыл бұрын
I've driven every generation of the Miata. I owned a 2010 MX-5 Grand Touring with Sport Package triple black 6 speed. It was setup for C Street auto-x. I put different brake pads, Koni Sport shocks, aggressive alignment for max camber, changed fluids, 16mm solid and adjustable H&R rear sway bar, and a set of RE71R tires. Man was that car fun to drive. So well balanced, a little oversteery if you where not smooth in transitions but man would it rotate. Drift missile when you wanted it kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4nGi5ZvjrGsp8k , could throttle steer it like my Corvette. Blast to drive. I daily drove the car (including winter-stupid fun in the snow, never once got stuck) without changing a thing (other than tires) from the auto-x setup for about 3 years. I miss the car. The things that took a little away from its Miata-ness, like the bigger size and little bit heavier made it a better DAILY driver. I packed it too the gills more than once. Great gas mileage as well. Put a ton of miles on it. A change in my life was the only reason for selling. Wish I still had it. Oh BTW, took it to the drag strip once. Ran a 14.7@93mph. BONE STOCK before I set it up for auto-x. Not too shabby. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnakXnqMoKhsjqs The ND is really a better Miata, as it should be, its newer. That being said the ND1 setup for auto-x to make it fast, is a stupid stiff front bar that was ripping the sub frames out, and I've driven them. You have to trail brake A LOT. It will NOT turn unless your on the brake at all. I hate that, it doesn't fit my driving style and it was not fun. My NC was FUN and FAST. Hopefully the refined ND2 is better in auto-x trim. I really like the ND and I can see myself owning one for sure. The hate on the NC is stupid, they handle good with a couple tweaks. I showed more than a few disbelievers in the NC that they can go at a auto-x or two. The NC properly setup is as fast as a Scion FRS with the TRD package. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6LZeZiibc2XfcU P.S. I appreciate the robustness of the NC, I drove the piss out of that car and it never once complained. Took it like a champ.
@SkyyMi
@SkyyMi Ай бұрын
I cant belive I just now found this series, feel like the algorithm has shorted me till now. Always been a big fan of miatas, so happy that I am almost to a point were I can own one.
@sjwang40
@sjwang40 4 жыл бұрын
I loved my 2006 NC Miata. It was an uncommon off-white color in the base trim and was an absolute blast to drive. I often got compliments on it even though it's a common car, and I have a 911 now but still think about going back to a Miata sometimes. I think it's not necessarily bad that the NC was bigger, softer, and more comfortable. It feels way more substantial and I did whole-day road trips in the NC with the roof down and didn't feel tired afterward. The NC still has amazing handling, it just feels a little more mature than an NA or NB.
@SaWuDOHC
@SaWuDOHC 4 жыл бұрын
NC prices just shot up by 20% lol
@ddrz09
@ddrz09 4 жыл бұрын
Information, culture, heritage, and pedigree will always influence the price of appreciated items. When these videos come out.... all of these things become open, and available for EVERYONE 😭😭😭
@lifeofmike556
@lifeofmike556 4 жыл бұрын
As a big car enthusiast and NC owner I've always known how special the NC was because I did my research. For people that want something like a Honda S2000 it's not the NB, NA or ND. It's the NC... The NC is such a POWERHOUSE platform. The chassis is basically ready for anything you throw at it.
@SaWuDOHC
@SaWuDOHC 4 жыл бұрын
@@ddrz09 so what, hoard them?
@ddrz09
@ddrz09 4 жыл бұрын
@@SaWuDOHC Not hoard... but if you're in the market for one, better find the best NC specimen you can find.
@gray25xt
@gray25xt 4 жыл бұрын
This makes me proud to own a Mazda even though it's not a Miata. Purity of purpose.
@Thisisalamp
@Thisisalamp 4 жыл бұрын
7 years strong with my NC in Malaysia. Love the video.
@WTFNoNamesLeft2
@WTFNoNamesLeft2 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Coleman is a legend. He's the reason for the 240 craze in the US. Flat black has it's origins with that same Silvia. Sport compact car was the best car magazine maybe ever while he was there and now he's helped make mazda what they are today. I hope someone does a documentary on him at some point.
@kc510
@kc510 4 жыл бұрын
It’s so interesting hearing deeper insights on a car without corporate bs spewed in. The world needs more of this! Thank you
@lksf9820
@lksf9820 4 жыл бұрын
I know some of it wasn't true, just don't know how much....
@carlosbonilla1637
@carlosbonilla1637 4 жыл бұрын
This documentary is what made me look for an NC... after 4 NAs and 2 NBs (2 MSM in fact), I am hooked on the NC..., especially after having owned a RX8, I was very familiar with the chassis..In fact, I just purchased a 2008 NC PRHT... Thank you Dave and Mr Goose :)
@louisporter8761
@louisporter8761 4 жыл бұрын
It's the sum of its parts that make the NC even in its 1.8 form so endearing. As a Mazda salesman involved with the NA and thinking it be perfect then, Mazda didn't just rest in their laurels. They strived to make it better. Thanks guys.
@Beanpapac15
@Beanpapac15 4 жыл бұрын
People can say what they want about the NC but I wouldn’t trade mine for any other generation of miata
@itchyonion3559
@itchyonion3559 3 жыл бұрын
Not even Nd?
@iluvcakes19
@iluvcakes19 2 жыл бұрын
@@itchyonion3559 ND is nice but imo it needs a PRHT and 200hp from the manufacturer
@itchyonion3559
@itchyonion3559 2 жыл бұрын
@@iluvcakes19 still better than nc tho
@basithph8958
@basithph8958 4 жыл бұрын
The NC is an underrated gem Yes the ND is a better car but the NC has its own charm A friend of mine owns a red NC and it’s so nice to drive one every time
@erickelly4107
@erickelly4107 2 жыл бұрын
@@lifeofmike556 No you can’t argue the NC is quicker than the ND. I’ve owned an NC2 for 5 years and now an ND2. The ND2 is quicker and a better performer is every metric.
@lifeofmike556
@lifeofmike556 2 жыл бұрын
@@erickelly4107 maybe because I've driven the 2.5L NC so long I forgot
@Nickoboss29
@Nickoboss29 2 жыл бұрын
@@lifeofmike556 but it's tunable...
@aroundomaha
@aroundomaha 3 жыл бұрын
Third time I’ve watched this, and I still think it is one of the best automotive pieces out there.
@matthewfuller1129
@matthewfuller1129 4 жыл бұрын
This was my favorite entry in the series so far (although they've all been great). Love the tech talk with Dave in the shop.
@Towert7
@Towert7 4 жыл бұрын
That's my baby! Most loved miata yet. It has a lightened flywheel from the factory. The speed at which this little engine revs is really cool. Almost reminds me of a motorcycle engine. I got my NC new in 2010 and it was my first car. I learned to drive a manual in this and having that light flywheel was really interesting. Just tap the throttle and the engine revs. A few years later I test drove a few 'sporty' VW cars, and I was shocked at how slow and unresponsive the throttle peddle was.
@blackmount1
@blackmount1 4 жыл бұрын
I worked for a local Porsche shop for a short while that made it's business on Maintaining, Storing, and Transporting 911 GT3 Cup Cars, now also touching into LMP, and Audi R8 Racecars One of the crew cheifs was a Miata guy and had a NC, I was often working on it for him during downtime, which would give me an excuse to take it out and drive it. That's where I fell in love with the NC, and saw the light of Miata as a whole. Looking at late model NCs underneath compared to brand new fresh from the factory Porsche Racecars, it was crazy to see how good the quality of the Engineering was, at significantly lower pricepoint. I'm also an RX-8 owner so I may be a tad biased, but God be Damned If that is not one of the single best cars to come out of the 2000-2010 decade, so incredibly good out of the box.
@ricepony33
@ricepony33 4 жыл бұрын
I want the uncut version of this, so good to hear all the details from Dave himself. He was always my favorite writer from Sport Compact Car.
@_chipchip
@_chipchip 4 жыл бұрын
Can we get an hour of Dave Coleman just going into the weeds please? Such a good video.
@adamkalinowski9064
@adamkalinowski9064 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2013 with 22,000 miles in February. I love this car! I had a 2008 Mazdaspeed 6 beforehand and can honestly say this one is so much more fun. I was originally going to buy a 2013 Mazdaspeed 3. I decided late the night before to take one more look at the market and found an ad for my MX-5 Club Edition. It was stunning. I have always liked the Miatas but never thought I'd actually own one. But, when I saw this one it was love at first sight. I've since taken it on 4 road trips throughout the Southwest and can't wait for many more. This car still turns a lot of heads and gets many compliments. Also you don't see many on the road, which retains a unique look.
@kyledesiderio_
@kyledesiderio_ 4 жыл бұрын
I love the wheel resting on the trash can in the under the hood portion 😂
@hogey74
@hogey74 4 жыл бұрын
Been driving an 06 for about 6 months... loving it! But this vid is the best thing I've seen in ages - answering questions about what is missing, what to change etc. And whether I should sell this one and buy a later one.... hmmm!
@MandusahRamirez
@MandusahRamirez 2 жыл бұрын
I Love The NC! You Could get it in “Purest Form” & “GT Trim” with all the Luxuries!💚
@mikezerker6925
@mikezerker6925 4 жыл бұрын
You've made some Miata lovers dreams come true with the series! I love the time and effort you put into this and all your videos! Hope you have a lot more to come in 2020! (Maybe a 3 series or M3 docuseries?)
@fabianherrmann6398
@fabianherrmann6398 4 жыл бұрын
This could go on the history channel or modern marvels and would raise their quality by an endless amount. No fiddeling around, just perfect camera, informative interview, superp cutting in great visuals that show what is being talked about, smooth fitting music and a host that doesn't have to be center frame all the time but is still present in every bit of this masterpiece. Way to lead the way into a new decade.
@ScorpioIsland
@ScorpioIsland 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best series on KZbin. I'd love to see something like this for other modern enthusiast cars
@chrisherbert4454
@chrisherbert4454 4 жыл бұрын
loved loved loved the technical deep dive as a owner of a 1.6 1991 NA i'm aspiring to do a super20 NC build in the future and while the NC is the unloved miata this video counteracts a lot of the negative beliefs that people have on this generation.
@drambie
@drambie 4 жыл бұрын
I learned so much about my NC from this video and seeing the exact same car I own (the 25th anniversary edition) on the video made me feel very lucky to own one. Too bad it has to be stored for a few months waiting for winter to pass (I live in Ontario, Canada). Great series of documentaries, keep up the good work!
@Hammerdak
@Hammerdak 4 жыл бұрын
Dominique Rambie ....I’m in Hamilton. I picked up a 2011 Special Edition in 2018. Only 33,000km on it. I feel the same way you do. I sit in it , stored in the garage right now, just to pet her. I can’t ever imagine getting rid of it.
@Anthony-qo5vc
@Anthony-qo5vc 4 жыл бұрын
Dominique are you part of the 25th anniv group on Facebook?
@drambie
@drambie 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Lu No I am not
@drambie
@drambie 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Lu but I belong to the Trillium Miata club in Toronto
@CaptainFordo21
@CaptainFordo21 3 жыл бұрын
Well wish me luck, Im in Quebec, and will be daily driving my NC2 thorought the coming winter! Rust proofing is done, winter tires are on, the wait is on...
@qiweihuang5236
@qiweihuang5236 2 ай бұрын
proud owner of NC3 PRHT here, I appreciate my car even more learning about what went on behind the scene, thank you @savagegeese
@sani9238
@sani9238 4 жыл бұрын
And now I want a NC Miata
@bt5252
@bt5252 4 жыл бұрын
Love the series and the depth. I was worried that not having someone involved with the development of the NC would make things superficial. Glad to see that Dave Coleman provides very interesting depth. Still would have liked to hear more about the NC1 design aesthetics. I love how it pays homage to the NA with the shape of the headlights and hood bulge. I like the neutral expression better as opposed to the later smiley faces.
@MoparKorean
@MoparKorean 4 жыл бұрын
Damn anyone else remember Dave Coleman from Sport Compact Car magazine?
@AaronFisher
@AaronFisher 4 жыл бұрын
As an NC owner, the deep dive into specifics was absolutely fascinating! Amazing series 👏
@dil6969
@dil6969 4 жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to see this format with other vehicle manufacturers. Learned a lot from listening to Dave Coleman talk about the engineering process for the engine and chassis. It really makes me want to get an NC.
@csuwatson04
@csuwatson04 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched an NC Miata video that made me change my mind on the new Supra. Didn't see that coming. Great job!
@eidvilaszailskas8556
@eidvilaszailskas8556 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, love the series! If there was a series with the engineers about all the Mazdaspeed cars, I think I'd wet my pants from joy
@chrisrobbins4984
@chrisrobbins4984 4 жыл бұрын
WOW! What a great film. As a NC1 owner who's modified it for SCCA autocross and the new Time Trials program, this helps answer so many questions.
@idiotequedwaal
@idiotequedwaal 3 ай бұрын
Damn I could've listened to this man describe this car down to each bolt for hours. The only sin of this documentary is the fact that it's about 3 hours too short. Amazing work
@FraxinusExelsior
@FraxinusExelsior Ай бұрын
One of the best car model-specific videos i have ever seen.
@shauncampbell969
@shauncampbell969 4 жыл бұрын
The most comprehensive video on Miatas that I have ever seen. This is due to the Mazda executive who completely explains the history, and the inner workings on the Miata. The best cinematography of any video of Miatas do to the filming of the underside of the car. The best product knowledge the best conversation in Miata. Best editing and cut away shots. All the best Shaun of NYC
@veefource
@veefource 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously, this has to be one of the best documentaries on an everyday enthusiast's car I've ever seen (and I watch a LOT). Superb work Savagegeese, please let there be more!
@noecker97
@noecker97 9 ай бұрын
As a Previous Owner OF a ND Miata 6-Speed For Close To 5yrs and Now Having To Daily Drive a 2018 CX-5, I Have Say I Can't Wait To Get Back Into a Miata, But Maybe This Time Into a 2013-15 NC Club PRHT or Soft Top. They Are Rare But Can Be Found At Reasonable Prices And Obviously Still Have Have a Ton Of Engineering Behind Them and "Upgradability" After Watching This Video.
@ImBarryScottCSS
@ImBarryScottCSS 4 жыл бұрын
That 5 link is crazy, I've never seen that before.
@moustachio334
@moustachio334 2 жыл бұрын
Yea same here! I never knew what they meant when they said multi-link rear suspension. Learn something new everyday
@charlietripi
@charlietripi 4 жыл бұрын
I want to hear this guy talk about all 4 generations. Hes a wealth of knowledge
@DJPleasureSeekingMissle
@DJPleasureSeekingMissle 3 жыл бұрын
NC Miata is the best value for money. A large improvement over the NA and NB generations. It’s reasonably modern, with decent features and storage compartments and a more tolerable ride. It still handles incredibly well and has a reliable powertrain. It can also be had for much less then the new ND.
@ClassicRed2159
@ClassicRed2159 7 ай бұрын
Dave Coleman was fun to read in his SCC days. Such a refresh to hear the man explain the geeky items on the best Miata! 😊
@arturpytel9940
@arturpytel9940 2 жыл бұрын
I believe this is how I got to watch your YT channel for the 1st time. I was looking for some info on my NC Miata MY2012 and saw this. I was blown away how great this video footage was, and since I'm a mechanical engineer, I really loved the part with Ford/Mazda project leader. Such a first-hand info always enriches the value of the entire video content, I really appreciate your efforts on these technical videos. Greetings from Poland.
@handle25745
@handle25745 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite documentary series! Thanks!
@markthibault8579
@markthibault8579 4 жыл бұрын
Well done. And with that, the NC2 is back on my radar...
@JBoulter11
@JBoulter11 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this in the shoppe session with one of the actual engineers. Would LOVE to see this more often.
@zTheBigFishz
@zTheBigFishz 4 жыл бұрын
I've had a extensively modified (boost, suspension, brakes, stiffening, etc.) NB and a moderately modded NC. I liked them both. However, if I were to get back into a Miata, I would probably go with a 2.5 swapped NC with upgraded suspension, brakes, wheels/tires from Goodwin. An ~200whp NC with the goods to back it up is a sweet spot for these cars, imo.
@lifeofmike556
@lifeofmike556 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely man
@ZZZRaven65
@ZZZRaven65 4 жыл бұрын
What a great job on this review! I'm a big SavageGeese fan already and expected great things from this series - and boy has he delivered! I'm an NB1 owner who daily's the car 80 miles/day and autocrosses it and I have never driven an NC. I had bought into the hype that they are "boats" compared to the NA/NB/ND and pretty much ignored them. I still believe the NB LOOKS better/more svelte, but this video has done a fantastic job of dispelling all the negative myths about the NC and illustrating how it is better than the NA and NB in every way (looks notwithstanding). Also, at 6'0 in height, the NB cockpit is pretty snug for me... and I understand that the NC is the roomiest of ALL of the generations. I'm leaning toward picking up a slightly used 2019 ND, but now I feel I owe it to myself to consider an NC as well. How cool was it to hear Dave Coleman himself giving the overview of this car! Excellent job, Mark! I can't wait to see the ND and wrap-up videos!
@lucielcampbell2737
@lucielcampbell2737 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The door bushings were also carried over from the NA and the NB, in fact, the ND also carries them over so the same part fits all four generations :)
@jasonw9431
@jasonw9431 3 жыл бұрын
I like the generational comparisons. Well done Savagegeese.
@roderickjones7479
@roderickjones7479 Жыл бұрын
I could have watched this for another hour well done
@kellyheath6293
@kellyheath6293 Жыл бұрын
Stumbled across this… What a great video.
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