Mazda3 Hatchback vs Toyota Corolla (2023) Comparison / Choose Your Compromise

[@Realistick]

Small correction, peak turbo power in the Mazda3 comes in at just 5,000 rpm (not 5,500)

[@rrrogster]

Yawn. Like your going to drive this glorified go kart like a crazy person or boy racer.

[@jkdoodle4460]

@@rrrogster it’s a very peppy and fun car for what it is

[@alexmic8278]

I found him for help and guidance on telegramx.

[@WinkerPack]

Who cares bro it’s slow as hell

[@Chriskary1]

I’d choose the Mazda! Mazda just has a cool factor and a sporty feeling to it!

[@EC-ol8nz]

Over the GR Corolla :o

[@NotApplicaple]

And ugly as shit with that(both cars) c-pillar- and no power.

[@mikeshurk]

@@EC-ol8nz GR is way above these price class

[@JacksonWalter735]

⁠@@EC-ol8nzGR Corolla is on an entirely different level though. Something like the Civic Type R or the cheaper Elantra N would be more comparable.

[@markcoopers1930]

I know many rag on the Mazda rotory style infotainment, and I'm biased as an owner. But memorizing the button locations around the rotory knob makes navigating both the standard UI and AAuto much quicker than trying to only use the knob (as many reviewers present as the only way to use it). Home, back, navigation, favorites, and music buttons jump you right to the appropriate app or page, and the buttons themselves are located right around the rotory knob which is where your hand naturally rests. Combine that with a play/pause/skip toggle on the steering wheel and navigation of they system is quick and I never have to adjust my shoulder away from where it needs to be for my normal driving position like you may have to if you were reaching up and over to a touch screen in the center dash.

[@justincarlson2548]

16,000km into my 2023 Mazda hatch turbo. Love it

[@StopWhatYerDoing]

If the Mazda offered a manual in the lower trims, I would've definitely gotten it instead. However, the 2022 Corolla offered a manual on both trims, so I saved myself some money and got an SE six speed. However, the Corolla doesn't feel cheap, it's got good visibility, and the shifter feels notchy and precise. I don't think I've heard of anyone else say it feels light and disconnected. The clutch is light, but it's not hard to find the bite point and I'm never guessing what gear I'm in. Also, for the segment, 169hp is honestly plenty decent. Sure more power would be nice, but it's got enough power and can move quickly if you need to. I also love the visibility and independent rear suspension on the Corolla, it rides really well and I think for the price point, is a very well rounded car and shouldn't be quickly dismissed. However if all hatchbacks only came in automatics, I'd hands down get the Mazda, as I'd prefer a traditional automatic over a CVT. They both have their merits and drawbacks, but they're both great cars. It just depends on what the customer values more.

[@t.k.morris]

Can you get the manual transmission in the 2023 model??

[@StopWhatYerDoing]

@@t.k.morris unfortunately, the manual has been discontinued for all 2023 Corolla models, except for the manual exclusive GR Corolla. However, it is too expensive for most people, which is why I opted for the SE.

[@Zizou19989]

​@Tony yes but only on the lower trim fwd version I think

[@VBar32]

I was torn between these two and the civic. After test drives I went with the Mazda 3 HB due to the premium feel of the interior and a proper 6 speed automatic transmission. Though all three are great I am very happy with the Mazda.

[@akgonen60]

the thing that won me over with the mazda 3 was the 6 speed transmission ..... love that feature ... i would stay away from the cvt's like the plauge such annoying transmissions

[@greensabr200]

I've bad my 22 mazda3 with a MT and it's been my favorite car. I love this thing so much. I've had a 2010 mz3 with a manual and a 2018 civic with a manual previously

[@zerokool-2058]

@@akgonen60. What issues are they in the Toyota ? They keep making the cvt transmission from what I seen it works. I’m also torn between the two. I just don’t like the smaller windows on the Mazda 3 hb, I drove it and it made it weird to get good view.

[@akgonen60]

​​@@zerokool-2058 nothing both good cars both reliable

[@akgonen60]

​@@zerokool-2058but Toyota is a beast in car making I'm sure they perfected the design but the screaming one gear and no shifts or the fake shifts drive me crazy I rather have a traditional 6 speed to be honest

[@stingrayl82]

I'm like the only person on the internet that really likes the (nonGR) Corolla hatch. I guess it all just comes together right for me.

[@pffbh]

I also really enjoy my 2023 se hatch .. I think it looks great , more than enough power , good handling and great gas mileage .

[@matt-be8lc]

I like the styling and Toyota reliability. Downsides seem to be cargo/rear space, and power. If the Corolla just had a little more space and a bit more power options I'd be sold (AWD would be nice too).

[@DJblastyfone]

I just test-drove both today (both with the manual transmission) and I actually agree! There are a lot of strengths to the 3 and it’s a great and civilized car to drive with a stick, but I test-drove the Corolla afterwards and it was an absolute riot. Much prefer its growling mid-range powerband for spirited city driving than the 3’s ample low-end torque, which prevents you from giving it much throttle for very long before you’re past the speed limit. Was absolutely not expecting it to be the better “driver’s car” out of the two, but for my taste it was handily more engaging.

[@vlj1133]

Man, that shot at 14:50, the huge difference in outward visibility, when the camera view switched to the Corolla.

[@Quietmedows02]

That's probably the only thing I don't like about my Mazda is the visibility isn't that good, took me a bit to get used to it at first

[@arbaz102]

Love my Mazda 3! Got it in February of this year

[@GrammarHero]

Toyota Safety Sense 3.0 is basically autopilot, and on a long road trip, it makes driving effortless.

[@andrewp9115]

I test drove both before my purchase. However slightly different variants in the UK, there is no turbo Mazda 3, just a 186bhp 2.0l e-skyactive-x and a 122bhp base model. The Corolla is a 1.8 or 2.0 l 195bhp hybrid CVT only which gives some serious MPG. However I chose the Mazda for 3 reasons: 1) the more premium cabin 2) bose sound system with sub woofer 3) most importantly the Mazda was quieter on road noise despite the more sporty feel.

[@lycon7000]

How did both cars drive? Do you feel the mazda shift? I know the ecvt system is smooth as hell and drives like a cloud. Also isnt the corolla like way more milage/gallon?

[@jkdoodle4460]

@@lycon7000 Mazda drives like the best car on earth, and I have driven German cars. It’s close to German cars but has amazing engineering to keep the ride smooth. The shifts aren’t noticeable unless u put it in sports mode or manual mode, which gives it an extra edge

[@jkdoodle4460]

@@lycon7000 it’s a luxury feeling compared to Corollas economic / high mpg car

[@noahhoffman5212]

Thank you for making the comparison!! I was racking my brain with all the different specs and features.

[@genzigzag]

Thanks for the review! I've been helping my niece buy her first new car. It's going to be an entry level sedan and or hatchback. She sat in the Mazda3 hatchback, loved everything about the interior but the rearward visibility was far from acceptable...

[@Realistick]

It really makes you rely too much on the blind spot monitoring. Maybe check out the sedan, that’s a little better with rear visibility!

[@markcoopers1930]

Going to second the sedan. Much better visibility, the entire rear door window allows much better sight, and you can still fold the rear seats down for extra cargo space. But that hatch is v/ practical. On the other hand because of the bad visibility I am always triple checking my blind spots where I wasn't before.... It's what I would have gotten if I was willing to wait another 6 months on top of the year and a half I had already waited being shuffled around the waiting list order at my local dealer. Apparently putting a deposit down wasn't enough to keep my spot

[@katiecannon8186]

I just bought my son the sedan: Carbon Edition. I think it’s a superb first car. Bout it very lightly used (2,700 miles). Personally, I also really loved the Corolla Hatch. But my son didn’t once he saw the Mazda. The Mazda was cheaper too. 👍🏻

[@katiecannon8186]

Just another thought: GTI S (base trim). That’s what I bought for myself because I fell in love.

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

Tip - instead of patting your head to show the head height, consider tur ing your hand tall wise: this will show "fingers-high" instead of us guessing "well, his hand appeared to move X distance". 👍

[@stoutlager6325]

Well this is timely. I'm shopping now and narrowed it down to these two. Currently leaning towards a manual mazda 3. I haven't been able to test drive the Toyota yet. It would be a harder choice if the Toyota had a manual option.

[@wittwer427]

I’ve owned 2 4th gen Mazda3s. They’re great. You enjoy driving it. Sitting in it. Looking at it. The reason I’ve owned two of them is because one day you’ll be driving the non turbo, and you’ll see someone with the turbo one and you’ll go “ooooooooooohh…. I need that….l

[@bag2963]

Hi, I'm happy for your recent great success and hope you are doing good. I'm not sure why people would buy Corolla hatch, maybe Mazda 3 C pillar is bad looking, but if I were to buy one car of this class it would have been Mazda 3 Turbo for sure( if they offered it with manual it would have been perfect).

[@mylifethaidiy7045]

I would choose the Corolla. I prefer the traditional hatchback shape and flat lying seats are a must for me, for hauling cargo. The self cleaning of the valves on their direct injection is also a must, compared to other manufacturers that have the added expense of constantly having to have the engine tore down to physically clean the carbon off the valves to get rid of engine misfires that contribute to plugged catalytic converters and then you don't pass the emissions test.

[@samt6788]

With a manual that Corolla is a completely different car, because the power band is so high you work for the power vs having it rubber band all over the place. Wish they kept the stick in the Corollas. Also with a short shifter and bushing upgrade it is a very engaging manual to drive. I love mine!

[@danielmclintock648]

Got a Mazda 3. Love it!

[@frankgyure3154]

I just bought the Mazda CX30 Premium. Love it. Hard to find a Mazda 3 in stock.

[@akgonen60]

i was literally about to purchase a cx30 it was fun and big and fast an then out of nowhere i saw this basic model hatchback just parked under a treee with a sticker price 8,000 dollars less then the cx-30 i jumped in the 3 and then bought it the same day

[@Neverenough2]

Are you pleased with the CX-30?

[@frankgyure3154]

@@Neverenough2 yes. Very much so.

[@FSAPOJake]

Between these, I'm choosing the non-turbo Mazda 3.

[@ThatGuy-mf9ye]

"Just as large as our lust to build luxury apartment complexes" I didn't think a budget hatchback comparison review would resonate with me so much.

[@Realistick]

They really just spawn in at this point

[@riseabove3082]

First time here. You ARE a good reviewer. Subbed so I can watch more.

[@KankBank]

I have the mazda3 turbo sedan, and it's an absolute rocket now with a tune. AWD 290hp and 370lb-ft of torque, would be perfect with a manual

[@PeeVee1979]

I was a bit doubtful with Mazda's rotary infotainment but after having bought Mazda 3 (2021) yesterday all the doubts have gone. It's really simple and intuitive to use and while driving I bet it's safer to use than touch screen. Absolutely loving the car so far. The manual gearbox is fantastic.

[@neeko.b]

Corolla hatch space, rear suspension, and looks (although I still like the 3’s looks), and the 3’s handling and transmission would be perfect in one car. I’d basically have to pick what compromise I can live with between the two.

[@cjay4108]

I thought the mazda had a bigger cargo?

[@neeko.b]

@@cjay4108 Corolla with expanded hatch is bigger and isn’t as much of a reach in

[@Reallyraywhat]

I bought a brand new 2022 Mazda 3 HB premium. Loved the carbon color with red interior. The car is sleek and looks very nice. Rattled the most out of all the cars I’ve owned. Unfortunately the car was totaled (not my fault) at 1,400 miles and it kept me safe. Things I liked was the red interior, Bose auto, adaptive headlights, seating position, heads up display. Forward collision was very aggressive, it caught the garage door twice and completely stopped the car.

[@t.k.morris]

What did you replace it with?

[@Reallyraywhat]

@@t.k.morris 2023 Audi A3

[@dampergoldenrod4156]

was your forward collision activated and someone hit you from behind totaling your car? this takes away the ability of the driver to make maneuvers in unexpected situations.

[@andreygareev1394]

I think for those, who live in northern states, and would benefit from awd, mazda 3 hatch is clear winner. Those in warmer climates might as well toss a coin for the pick))

[@StgVirus1]

I just bought a Mazda 3 Turbo hatchback. It's such a great car, looking forward to years of driving

[@mikeshurk]

get the corksport axelback and short ram intake, it'll make it even more fun to step on it

[@darroncrick9993]

Have a Lexus UX, which we love. Bought a Corolla for our son and it is 9/10 as good as the Lexus. Great little car for a couple or single person.

[@cezaryotarzewski8772]

Elton John’s „The One”? Awesome choice 😊👍

[@nah3193]

I wish Toyota would take from Mazda and option the Camry 2.5l powertrain in the Corolla as an XRS model or something

[@braetonwilson4296]

@BronzeXV70 Keep in mind that the Corolla with the 2 liter engine is about as quick as the Camry with the 2.5. Why? The Camry weighs 500 pounds more so it the neutralizes the extra horsepower.

[@remnantoftheeye5580]

Because of consumer demand for fuel-efficient cars during the mid- to late-2000s, sales of subcompact cars made them the fastest growing market category in the U.S.

[@Dexterosa]

Thanks for nice overview info comparison

[@John-kx3ng]

One is an economy car the other is premium. No comparison whatsoever.

[@DevashishGulati]

The economy one has independent suspension while the premium one has torsion beam on the back which can only fit dogs

[@mikeshurk]

@@DevashishGulati im 6ft and i have just enough leg and head room to sit comfortably. Any taller, and it'll prob be bad. Torsion beam def disappointing, but you can get modifications for rear suspension from corksport to help with understeer.

[@DevashishGulati]

@@mikeshurk understeer is not that big of a problem since a driver gets used to it. What about the ride comfort, especially in the second row? Would feel comfortable if a new baby sat there?

[@mikeshurk]

@@DevashishGulati if the roads are bad, then the backseat ride is pretty terrible. If they're prone to being carsick and you need the backseat, would not recommend this car

[@DevashishGulati]

@@mikeshurk I guess it’s boring old corolla then for me.

[@katiecannon8186]

Honestly, I like the Toyota’s exterior styling better. But the interior is a tad 🙄. Especially just the tacked on info screen. The Mazda hatch’s lack of visibility is 😬 So, I vote either Toyota hatch or Mazda 3 sedan, even though the Mazda feels like it’s just in another class. Because of this, the Toyota feels over priced (especially considering dealer mark ups). Or maybe the Mazda is just a really good deal 😊

[@katiecannon8186]

Bought my son a lightly used Mazda 3 sedan. Great car.

[@Fox429]

I went looking for a 2023 3 HB manual, but ended up getting a 2024 Turbo P+. It was so much quicker and the new larger touchscreen, wireless charging and carplay was really nice features. I came from a CX5 so I’m used to the infotainment system, but almost always use carplay so its a toss up.

[@michaelw6277]

I chose a Corolla sedan because of the rear suspension. I like the Mazda otherwise but I couldn’t talk myself into taking a step back on the suspension.

[@christopherhurtle7167]

I just purchased a 2022 Toyota Corolla xse it handles phenomenally yeah it doesn't have the most amount of power it has plenty of good features the interior feels amazing I am truly loving this vehicle and the Toyota reliability for me seals the deal I know this Toyota will Outlast that Mazda

[@delplaya5]

I'd probably choose the Mazda but it's a shame the visibility is so poor out the back. That makes it a really tough decision. Thanks for the review though, it was very helpful.

[@snxgfi]

Nice detailed review! One note: the chromatic aberration from your lens is quite a lot

[@nimbera7680]

Here in Australia the Mazda 3”s are made in Japan so reliability has to be a notch better.. waiting for my 2 litre model to be delivered btw we do get rear air vents here

[@Austr80]

I like my Mazda❤

[@chadmason8526]

Get rid of the sunroof in the Mazda it may help with the head room in the back. Sunroof usually drop the headliner down an inch or more because of the mechanism. It's one of the reasons I don't buy cars with sunroofs.

[@chadmason8526]

@LeonL47 Yes, for those that buy a car and keep it long term they are a pain. The track assembly is usually the first thing that becomes obsolete, expensive, unavailable a few years after a new model comes out. Getting one from a junk yard is just getting another piece of worn-out plastic junk. They kind of defeat the purpose of buying a cheap reliable car. Not to mention annoying water, air leaks and noises they can make over time. Can you tell I actually hate sunroofs with a passion? Get a convertible garage queen for nice days and keep sunroofs off almost anything else.

[@theadvocate4698]

It's sad that toyota killed their 6 speed manual...i would have to get the mazda 3 just for that...

[@markcoopers1930]

The manual is rarer than the 2.5T or a color that isn't part of Grayscale. Most dealerships I spoke to last year put me between 4-7 on the wait-list for the manual, which was an estimated year wait. And that's fully accepting whatever color they managed to get ahold of.

[@michaelhinson424]

I’m Team Corolla as I have a 2020 SE hatchback!

[@popwarhomie]

I would buy a new Corolla XSE hatchback if it had more than 169hp.... The Mazda is really nice inside and the turbo 2.5 would be perfect but I just do not like the looks of the rear at all.

[@JacksonWalter735]

A Corolla hatchback with around 200 hp would be perfect. Not many of us can afford a GR model. Just a little extra power from a Corolla hatchback as a daily driver/commuter car would make it more fun to drive, but I understand why it’s at 169hp (better gas mileage for those who will primarily be using this just to get from point A to point B).

[@Zeal808]

Most people will choose the Toyota. It’s more well known and trusted. Plus that double wishbone suspension is a deal breaker for most people Really liking my Mazda!

[@Realistick]

Fair, although I think most people would just choose the Corolla sedan though if they want to go Corolla.

[@braetonwilson4296]

Corolla has a double wishbone suspension? wow!

[@tanbui7569]

I've sat on both cars and immediately bought the Mazda3 after the test drive. The quality of both interior/exteriror, features and driving experience is just on a complete different level to that of the Corolla. Corolla does offer smooth driving but beside that, nothing special. The car feels very bland.

[@kenhoward3512]

I prefer the Mazda's styling, both inside and out, and its wider range of options, but for a one-car-only household, the Civic Hatchback's much more useful interior space makes more sense than either of these two.

[@Chriskary1]

My issue with the civic hatchback is that it just looks like a normal boring sedan. I don’t few it as a hatch back! If I’m trying to get a hatch I’ll get a car that looks like a hatchback

[@matt-be8lc]

​@@Chriskary1exactly! Wish Honda would make an actual hatchback like they used to, not just a sedan without a trunk. A hatch should have better dimensions for hauling things and for trips. The civic hatch is as much a hatch as a Prius.

[@akgonen60]

@@Chriskary1 the civic hatch literally looks like a honda accord with a smaller trunk and with a fake CVT TRANSMISSION ,

[@matthewretana6364]

I think that if the argument is practicality the real competition is the subaru Impreza Hatch vs Honda civic Hatch These two are nice but really Small😬

[@Gritt982]

I like my 2022 Mazda 3 Sport GT AWD it doesn't compare to a Corolla in higher trims, I have headlights that steer into the bend and full genuine leather. It's just not a budget car anymore.

[@raynothing]

Why doesn't Toyota include a sub with the audio upgrade?.

[@Kburd-wr6dq]

Having owned many Mazdas, and many Toyotas, currently having the corolla hatch and Mazda 3, I'll take the corolla. I drive a lot, and I do all the maintenance myself. My CHB hasn't seen a service bay since it was purchased.

[@Penelope416]

What issues have you had with the Mazda 3?

[@bizmonkey007]

Mazda 3 are very reliable though. It’s not like a VW or something lol

[@Kburd-wr6dq]

@@Penelope416 brake caliper issues, and window regulator issues.

[@akgonen60]

@@Penelope416 i got a mazda 3 i literally got no problems since the day i bought and even now literally no problems , people get nitpicky but to each his owm to be honest the corolla looks trash not only that but the cvt transmission with the fake shifting ? thats a insult to your wallet right there mazda wins interior , engine , desigh, and especiallly the 6 SPEED AUTOSTICK TRANSMISSION

[@akgonen60]

@@bizmonkey007 hell yeea mazdas are underdogs in reliability

[@stolenhal0]

I recently upgraded from a 2019 Corolla SE sedan to a 2024 Corolla HB XSE and altho I miss the seats, transmission, rear cargo and CD player in the previous; the handling, performance, navigation and sound system of latter are far superior. I live in a place with lots of windy hills with 2 lane roads without any passing, so the handling is very noticeable. My only real gripes are that the handling feels a bit too floaty and needs to be more stiff, and the inner door panel sticks out too far on the driver's left side, which is annoying because it's so damn hard of a material.

[@doogeerugged89]

I just started working for mazda. Mazda seems to be a brand with minimal recalls and issues, un like honda with head gasket issues, injector, EPS failures on and on. I'm surprised honda does not get sued to the moon for all the issues they have on their brand new 2023-2025. I've drived the Corolla and th mazda 3 today The manual clutch is awkward on the 3 due to it being so damn close to the foot rest in the carpet. It is also very soft , its weird how light these new car clutch's feels. The 3 has hands down way more for the dollar

[@frankgyure3154]

Love it when you get out of the trunk.

[@markvicferrer]

Cars shouldn't get bigger just to cater to North American standards - the Honda Civic has gotten so big it's not sold in Japan & some other markets where smaller vehicles are preferred. Not in the market for a car at the moment, but these two are my top picks & I'm glad I don't have to choose either way right now.

[@mylifethaidiy7045]

Yep. My mom's cousin had a 1987 Accord with a manual transmission and got up to 40 mpg. Nowadays the new Civics are larger than the old accords.

[@matt-be8lc]

Agree. Ive noticed a lot of cars/SUVs grow every year until they decide they need to make a smaller car to take it's place. See: CRV from 20 years ago to now- nowadays CRV is almost like a original Pilot . Introduced HRV, which is now also much bigger, so prob need an even smaller crossover to take it's place 😅

[@TheSjuris]

@@mylifethaidiy7045 funny that the Accords sold in America have always been the North American version. Same with the Civics.

[@akgonen60]

not a fan of the style of the Toyota , but for the price and the CVT transmission Mazda would be my pick all day everyday

[@63arizona1]

I have a 2023 mazda 3 hatchback premium AWD. What I don't like about is the the clear coat finish scratches very easy and is annoying. The transmission feels like it has a lag when you take off. It doesn't feel like 191 hp more like 150 or so. The soft dash might look more luxurious non but you don't keep it up with vinyl protectant it will crack. I liked my 2004 mazda 3 2.3 S over the 2023 mazda 3.

[@Amuro89]

Hatchback is not targeting for tall people to sit at the back. I recently bought a Toyota Corolla hatchback because i want a compact car and enough to carry kids at the back and fuel efficent for my work. I am happy with the car even though i wish the luggage space can be bigger. I would buy Toyota anytime for reliability. By the way, I like the way Toyota Corolla looks way way better than Mada 3

[@JacksonWalter735]

Out of curiosity why the Corolla hatchback and not the standard Corolla?

[@alengreen589]

both are good but i like more the Mazda, thanks 😀

[@t.k.morris]

I don't care anything about lane centering, adaptive cruise, auto braking or anything else. My 2006 model Mazda3 sedan manual has everything I desire. I just wish Mazda still had a sedan with the manual, Mazda3 or Mazda6. New tech is great for some but at my retirement age, I do not need any of it. Just more things that can go wrong and are costly to get fixed. And I have to have a manual. My very first car at age 16, 1970 Dodge Charger R/T manual, 2nd car 1975 Pontiac Trans AM 455ci manual, been driving something with a manual my entire life!

[@Coffee.Crisp.]

In Canada we still have the sedan base model with manual trans

[@t.k.morris]

@@Coffee.Crisp. That is a good choice to have.

[@denzeljackson6505]

Toyota really needs to up their game with the exterior design but especially interior design cause u spend ur time inside driving

[@christopherhurtle7167]

Why in the heck would they not give a manual transmission to the turbo model that makes absolutely no sense

[@servicerifle16]

I'd probably go Mazda if for no other reason than the dealers in my area heavily markup Toyotas, some models $10k over MSRP.

[@Unchainedmaple888]

Both hatcbacks need powerful hybrid systems that give us both great speed and MPG

[@matt-be8lc]

Agreed, a hybrid version of the Corolla hatch like the sedan would be awesome. As long as they kept it reasonably priced.

[@doubledubs36]

Bloomington? You aren't too far from me. I live in Columbus. I like the looks of both, but I think the toyota looks more fun despite it lacking performance vs the mazda. To me where the mazda fell short, is not offering a manual on the turbo awd version. They're missing out on a market that toyota is finding demand is growing. However toyota killed the manual in the corolla. The world doesn't make sense though. People complain about expensive gas guzzling cars, but don't buy inexpensive cars where a manual transmission makes it cheaper. Also those budget cars are usually under powered and the manual transmission delivers better performance by not requiring as much power to spin it.

[@hiewy]

I like both, corolla looks nicer, however the corolla has a CVT transmission wich can be trouble when the car racks up mileage

[@TheDude50447]

As the owner of the 2021 model the only thing that doesnt make sense about the regular Mazda 3 line up is the infotainment screen size. The box thing on the dash the screen sits in is several inches wider and higher than the screen. It could easily fit a 10 inch screen instead of a 7 inch. It doesnt bother me it just doesnt make sense. Seems like a waste of material.

[@TheSjuris]

This is so the screen is in your direct line of sight and not where you need to turn your head.

[@TheDude50447]

@@TheSjuris Its not about the positioning. The current models actually have a 10 inch screen inside the same housing. Nothing changed, only the screen size.

[@TheSjuris]

@ most of the current models still have the 8inch screen only the top 2 models get a 10” same place too. It’s 2 inches wider one on each side

[@TheDude50447]

@@TheSjuris yeah, but you know what i mean right. Its basically huge bezels for no reason.

[@TheSjuris]

@ welcome to the real world screens got bezels. If you don’t like it use a dremel.

[@jonb7597]

The Mazda looks so much more sophisticated

[@erikhaynes5506]

In Canada the Corolla hatch doesn't have a spare tire which sucks.

[@macro16]

Give me back my Honda Fit.

[@naveenthemachine]

Mazda because it’s cooler and it’s not an uncompetitively boring Toyota But the real question is mazda3 or Honda Civic

[@akgonen60]

honda civc is coo but the 1.5 engine turboed along with the CVT transmission is crapola to the extreme

[@sammyt3514]

Prefer the exterior of the Corolla (by a little) and the interior of the Mazda (by a lot), but the reliability and comfort aspects of the Corolla make it a winner for me if I were to pick between those two. Having a (relatively) upscale interior is nice, but the constant beating you'd be getting if you drive on the poor roads in most of the snow belt states and Canada would quickly wear thin. In fact, a colleague of mine is in that boat; he bought a Mazda 3 hatchback because he liked the looks and driving dynamics, but he wishes he bought something more comfortable now after a few months of driving on Toronto's roads in winter.

[@shinn43]

That's an easy fix, tell your friend to swap out his 18 inch wheel + tire set up to either 225/50R17 or 205/60R16. This will SIGNIFICANTLY increase driver comfort as there's more sidewall for dampening in comparison to the 215/45R18

[@sammyt3514]

@@shinn43 He already has 16" wheels, which are standard on the GS trim in Canada that he has. So, no, that wouldn't help.

[@akgonen60]

@@sammyt3514 it will help,read what he said he said 18 with BIGGER and thicker tires will grip the road he is right its a easy fix

[@TheSjuris]

My Mazda 3 had no issues driving in Wisconsin. If you want snow then something with awd would work better. Let me know when Toyota makes a awd version of the Xse hatchback

[@sammyt3514]

@@TheSjuris I'm letting you know that the Corolla sedan hybrid has an AWD version if I wanted that, but it's irrelevant since I'm only interested in FWD. I always use winter tires and that, plus the current traction control technology, is all I need for winter driving. That's a moot point, though, since my concern was ride quality, not traction.

[@Hexsense]

When tires on my Mazda3 wear out, I'll change the wheel down from 18 inch to 17 inch. IMO, one of the reason Mazda3 ride firm is their choice of tire and wheel size. 215/45R18 aren't going to ride as cushy as 225/50R17 or 205/60R16.

[@Realistick]

Tires do make a difference, though from my experience with Toyota’s, even the camry se nightshade with 19s was quite forgiving so changing from 45 to 50 sidewall probably won’t make a perceivable change in most scenarios!

[@Hexsense]

@@Realistick I calculate tire pressure for stock tire size vs alternate tire size on a tire pressure calculation website. Mazda3 recommend 36psi for 215/45R18. When I plug in the number for 225/50R17 it recommend 31psi. Let say I round up to 32psi to make it even more safe against pothole, I think that 4psi reduction would still provide some ride comfort.

[@pgrut8880]

i would take the Toyota for long term reliability. Plus less stuff to go wrong.

[@bizmonkey007]

Mazda 3s are very reliable, especially if you get the Japanese-made ones.

[@akgonen60]

mazda 3 is japanese made now and there are the underdog in reliablity i had one last me for 22 year and no i didnt not take care of it mazdas are beasts when it comes to reliablity i love my mazda 3 never gave up on me then never gave up on me now its mazda and toyota on the top 2 reliable cars hands down

[@TheSjuris]

Multi-link suspensions aren’t cheap to fix or maintain.

[@yan5362]

Am stuck between those 2. here we have the 1.2T and the 1.8 hybrid on the corolla hatch and 1.5 skyactive on the mazda. love both look but the interior is far better in the mazda. the HP is higher in the corolla and the fuel efficiency is better as its a hybrid. PFFFFFF. REALLY DONT KNOW WHAT TO CHOOSE. ..

[@doctorunicorn5550]

toyota didn't sell many manual corollas because you can't buy the damn things! if you walk into a toyota dealership, they can put you on a waitlist and you might get a car with the specs you want. otherwise, you're at toyota's mercy. meanwhile, subaru lets you order a car exactly to your specs. i'm bringing up subaru because 78% of brzs sold in 2018 were manual but only 33% of 86s sold in 2018 were manual. that's the most apples to apples comparison i can think of and i have no doubt the take rate would've been higher if toyota actually built them.

[@Realistick]

Certainly part of the story, saw the same story happen with the manual Impreza but the manufacturers typically avoid a surplus of models. The demand for an mt corolla was low but Toyota hurt it even more by making it a pain to get them!

[@sunset3052]

Agree! My 2023 Crosstrek 6-sp coming in April. I wish the auto makers keep selling the manuals. Just really sad...

[@doctorunicorn5550]

@@sunset3052 yeah it sucks that the impreza gu is finally getting an fb25 option but it's concurrent with losing the standard manual. the '90s are truly dead: the impreza gt/gk is the last impreza with a 5-speed and a cd player.

[@DionMorene]

I drive with my Mazda along my family 2 wifes and 3 sons

[@s4nder86]

That's two families.

[@janetbaker1945]

Two wives?

[@mingovazquez704]

2 wife's, lucky man

[@Ben-bs4od]

Is the rear visibility issue a dealbreaker? Would you take this over a Subaru Impeza RS? Would you take this as an AWD turbo with less reliability, AWD no turbo or just front wheel drive?

[@katiecannon8186]

Mazda 3 sedan. Actually, the VW GTI base trim is the best choice in my opinion. My son has the Mazda 3 Carbon Edition sedan. I have the GTI. Both great cars. But the GTI is really the best all rounder & super fun to drive.

[@TheSjuris]

@@katiecannon8186 and then the timing belt breaks and it’s a $5000 repair.

[@larryh6934]

@@TheSjurisI think both Mazda 3 and VW GTI have a timing chain rather than belt and chains do not need replacment typically.

[@TheSjuris]

@ except that in the GTI you have to take the entire engine out and their belt breaks out. By the way, VW removed the chain from the Jettas because they didn’t even last that long. VWs and Audis are garbage after 100,000 miles. Nice looking pieces of German junk.

[@larryh6934]

@@TheSjuris Oh :) good 2 know

[@JackieArdoline]

The Mazda exterior is sleek, the interior is premium. The toyota looks cheaper inside. I like the Mazda better by far.

[@erikhaynes5506]

If you call the Mazda 3's 191hp engine soulless I wonder what you call the Sentra's 149hp engine or the Civic's 158hp engine which are it's competitors. Excellent review though.

[@Realistick]

Soulless does not mean gutless, and thanks!

[@erikhaynes5506]

@@Realistick Fair enough. Curious if you think the Civic 2.0L has some soul compared to the Mazda 2.5?

[@sha0tube]

If you love driving pick the Mazda, if you're a NPC pick the Corolla.

[@Lkjnn2287]

Mazda all day everyday

[@akgonen60]

and twice on sunday

[@ejrupp9555]

The Mazda handles more like a BMW and the Toyota more like a Volkswagen. The mazda is more like a lexus on the inside than the toyota ... yeah that's funny. Toyota has a better history for reliability, yet my next door neighbor is a Toyota mechanic who is always complaining that he works too much overtime. Go drive them yourself and don't take anyone's word on it. Reliability and cost of ownership should be the only thing you have to research. If you are more worried about what other people think about your decisions then imagine you never read this comment.

[@markthibault8579]

The Civic hatchback is WAY more practical and roomy. Even the GTI is roomier. Having owned the original Mazda3 hatch, it too was way roomier than the new one. So, Mazda needs to stop trying to be so stylish, at the cost of comfort and room, and get back to its roots as a legitimate Civic competitor.

[@dewdew34]

Cylinder deactivation. That makes me worried. I'd prefer not to have that feature on any motor.

[@mylifethaidiy7045]

Yep. Chevy had started that in 2007 on their trucks and SUV's and it has been nothing but EXPENSIVE repairs, since the engine has to be tore down.

[@TheSjuris]

@@mylifethaidiy7045 never had an issue with my 2019 Mazda 3 got 195,000 before Jane the Doe committed sucide with the front end. Maybe don’t buy a Chevy.

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

The Mazda is usually easier to get without any mark-up bs than the Corolla.

[@Realistick]

Definitely, though I think most dealers in my region have abandoned mark ups now on anything that isn’t a specialty model

[@StopWhatYerDoing]

I paid MSRP for my Corolla and had my choice of colors and trims before the one I wanted got allocated.

[@Lairex_Rai]

Think if your going to throw in the higher trim levels and add in the GR Corolla, I mean, hey, you even threw in the awd Mazda seems very one-sided already in the beginning of this video

[@bjkjoseph]

I have the Toyota, the Mazda looks better, but the Toyota has dual injection, Hopefully a lot less maintenance, forget about turbo, I want to keep this car for a long time.

[@psychiatry-is-eugenics]

16:01 mimic gears ? Any way to shut that off ?

[@Realistick]

Don’t use heavy throttle, it has to shift out of it’s launch gear and then it’s business as usual.

[@Kburd-wr6dq]

It'll mimic gear at any speed, usually it'll "shift up" at around 4k to go down to 3k if you apply light throttle. It's not that intrusive, you kinda get used to it. If the engine is cold, it won't do the fake shifts (other than the physical first gear).

[@akgonen60]

u get fake transmission your gonna get fake gears no way around it best just stay away from cvt

[@PaulSuquet]

Odd. I get an avg of 38mpg on city driving in my 2021 hatchback Mazda 3, and up to 42mpg on hwy (70mph, 87oct gas NO ethanol).

[@BARNEYFIFE-d4r]

And yet the Subaru Impreza (5th gen) still has more cargo room than even the Honda civic with the rear seats folded down.

[@Kingthin]

The Mazda is far superior than the Toyota. Mazda all the way!!

[@Arkadietza]

How tall you are in cm ?

[@Jonnyfriday]

The Mazda checks most of the boxes for me but with cylinder deactivation standard on all non-turbo models, that’s gonna be a no from me dawg.

[@akgonen60]

only certain ats models have that feature in mazda not all there models i got a 2021 mazda 3 hatch no start stop or deaactiavation cylinder crap nothing i gto a cx5 1 year later none of that option is on the cars either

[@miyukishirogane9579]

Why do people care so much about the fucking trunk.

[@akgonen60]

😅 for real if u can fit a 12 inch subwoofer in it , its big enough lol

[@mertcakir233]

If I don’t have to pay gas I choose mazda.

[@JohnBoulding]

Mazda all day long

[@MartinezFAMHawaii]

I bought the Corolla $3K less than the Mazda 3, Durability, Higher re-sale value. Comfort ride is better too at Corolla.

[@TheSjuris]

That’s because people mistake Toyota for quality.

[@fikes73]

So you’re saying buy the Civic.

[@Realistick]

If you want the least compromises overall but it doesn’t win for everyone.