MC-707 Groovebox SONIC LAB Review

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3 жыл бұрын

Roland’s new Grooveboxes (well new as of last year) just got a significant OS update to v1.5 and as a result they’ve come a long way since they were first introduced.
Gaz Williams and Nick Batt took a look at the MC-707 which is an 8-track groove box with tone tracks, drum tracks and Looper tracks.
At the heart of both the MC boxes is the Zen Core engine. This is common to many new Roland machines - the Jupiter X and Xm and the AX Edge specifically (though without the synth specific expansion engines) and as such can share the basic core patches across all models, including integration with the Roland Cloud.
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@MusicianParadise
@MusicianParadise 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, 1 product 2 studios 2 presenters review - very engaging and dynamic, hard to quit watching. Nick and Gaz - you are digging into something new in music tech review territory.
@caktalfraktal
@caktalfraktal 3 жыл бұрын
I got a 707 in December '19 and was simultaneously amazed and overwhelmed at the possibilities. I find that it gets less overwhelming with time; even with light use. You just kind of get used to it and I find myself liking it more and more. It really is an all in one electronic music tool; and now I wish I could buy one for all my friends. The frequent updates have been adding actually useful features too. Everyone who has any interest in making electronic music with knobs and sliders instead of a mouse should have one of these.
@canvoodoo
@canvoodoo 3 жыл бұрын
I must say I absolutely loved the format of this review. From a punter point of view, I would take this over some noisy Namm videos any day.
@aloharay
@aloharay 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and yes. I really do not enjoy NAMM and other show floor videos.
@thomaslthomas1506
@thomaslthomas1506 3 жыл бұрын
I hate going to NAMM and don’t enjoy the videos
@WrvrUgoThrUR
@WrvrUgoThrUR 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how complacent we get with the way things are and then when they change we’re like....”well damn, why didn’t we do this sooner!” We give our legitimate need to socialize an feel connected waaaaaaay to much say.
@MatusFinchus
@MatusFinchus Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this video. My 707 and TR-8S setup is almost all I need. Plus, the combo of Nick and Gaz is all that is needed for a great review.
@pricejoss
@pricejoss 3 жыл бұрын
I flipping love my 707. I’m a novice to making music and I was making a track in no time. Absolutely awesome device.
@JR-xf6nh
@JR-xf6nh 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. You guys did miss a pretty big feature in my opinion. You can change synth patches on a per clip basis for the entire track.
@steveowen8961
@steveowen8961 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant show with great repartee from both of you! You really should do more of these types of reviews - entertaining as well as informative.
@MatusFinchus
@MatusFinchus 3 жыл бұрын
What a great review, gents! I have had my 707 for 2 weeks now and already loving it. Patch 1.72 adds a lot more to it that improves on an already great machine.
@420gravy4
@420gravy4 3 жыл бұрын
This looks and sounds mighty impressive, I cannot wait to get my paws on one for a test drive. Brilliant review btw, you guys keep it up and you'll end up with a series on Netflix.
@midiminion6580
@midiminion6580 3 жыл бұрын
I love my MC707. Been a guitar/ bass player for 20 years plus and dabbled with synths and sequencing /daws before. But when I saw this - YUP. This is exactly what I need. Have had it almost a year and I’m still finding new cool things that I can do with it!
@_c_y_p_3
@_c_y_p_3 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my fav SonicLabs! I really like the way you both made use of your camera angles to show the front and back and the distance zoom out and the closer. Gaz being a bit out of focus was fine, I just think you both really made the most of the pandemic to evolve the show even further. I think SonicState/SonicLab came out even better afterwards.
@d-boy1644
@d-boy1644 3 жыл бұрын
Great review ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ I love the fact that your review is very honest and genuine highlighting all flaws too AWESOME 👌🙏🏻
@davidvochocjr1005
@davidvochocjr1005 3 жыл бұрын
Relaxed and still FULL OF VALUABLE INFORMATION, thanks guys
@t4ttyt3ddyr0ck3r
@t4ttyt3ddyr0ck3r 3 жыл бұрын
I was sceptical of the format, but having watched it all, you two are great together. The length of time you've worked together shows in this remote review! I have been interested in the Zencore stuff and, after this, getting an MC101 just for the 4 part multi timbre zencore synth module seems worth while!
@Arperture
@Arperture 3 жыл бұрын
The MC707 makes a fantastic brain for your hardware as well, sequencing 8 different channels and will allow you to mix your hardware audio back into the MC707.
@Steve_643
@Steve_643 3 жыл бұрын
This turned out to be the best machine Roland has made in a while
@glensubtorq
@glensubtorq 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! This instrument changed my whole approach to music now. And after 6 months I am still learning new ways to make music with it. Far exceeds my expectations 🙏😎
@surf_machine
@surf_machine 3 жыл бұрын
Along with the TR8s imo
@thomashoffend4299
@thomashoffend4299 3 жыл бұрын
That was a great discussion. I really enjoy the back-and-forth style.
@MikkelGrumBovin
@MikkelGrumBovin 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent format , and i hope youll stick to it in the future - you two ARE the ..."Real" backbone of Sonic Lab ! - Yay ! 😁👍🏻
@Stue007
@Stue007 3 жыл бұрын
Best SONIC LAB review ever - thank you very much!!
@LeicaCat
@LeicaCat 3 жыл бұрын
Forget COVID, this kind of format works so well you should consider using it all the time.
@jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot4171
@jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot4171 3 жыл бұрын
Damn Nick?! You really put a decent dark synth-core -ish backdrop together. I’m just happy to see a sort of 808 grid sequencer tat I can upload anything into and give my file the sequencer grid treatment and get on a pitch or another knob to vary my own phrases. 62 seconds stereo is HUGE once you’re considering the fact of that 808 grid sequencer and the treatments from its knobs. Considering that 62 seconds is a pretty obvious point that it’s meant to be for phrases, like the old sampling beat machines from not too long ago. You two have probably sold me on this one. Gaz, you would be held hostage at Roland if only you knew Japanese. I’ll probably wait it out until Christmas, in case they take your lesson and throw in an SSD hard drive to expand that recording memory into a SMC707+. They’ll probably wait now to release that, since it’s always after I buy the last one that the next iteration gets presented. Thanks again for sharing!!
@chedhead3278
@chedhead3278 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers guys, great review. Most appreciated. :)
@bonzo230
@bonzo230 3 жыл бұрын
I need neighbors like you two. GREAT review!
@jonowise
@jonowise 3 жыл бұрын
There is a big feature you missed and that is you can change patches on a per clip basis for any track type, ie, up to 16 different patches per channel !
@jonowise
@jonowise 3 жыл бұрын
it is a real shame Roland didn't hype that feature a lot more
@tarekith
@tarekith 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonowise Sounds like most people use it that way anyway.
@empirix
@empirix 3 жыл бұрын
amazing unit, Rolands best release in years, great review guys
@simonsherbourne
@simonsherbourne 3 жыл бұрын
"A very very deep unit" is the pull quote from Gaz.
@colmmadden8526
@colmmadden8526 3 жыл бұрын
Nice jam outro, as always x
@angstrom
@angstrom 3 жыл бұрын
This dual remote-review format is great. The best thing to come out of COVID
@sonarfreq
@sonarfreq 3 жыл бұрын
Great outro track Nick... sounds like OMD with a little YES thrown in. And I agree on the available recording time, let's hope Roland are listening and give us more as you suggest!
@Claidheambmor
@Claidheambmor 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool format, you both did well to keep talking over one another to a minimum. I can tell you let each other get your point across. The lack of latency is fab as well. Thanks guys!!!
@supermonkeycollider
@supermonkeycollider 3 жыл бұрын
Synthstrom Deluge tickles your wish list fellas.
@LimeEye13
@LimeEye13 3 жыл бұрын
True, the 1010 Blackbox also in some respects. Particularly as a sampler.
@watercolourmark
@watercolourmark 3 жыл бұрын
It's already on order. Makes me think why are samplers and loopers still limited like this, when you can read/write in faster than realtime off a effing SD card? Roland seem to tier the market, even when they don't have a range of products to be protecting. It is like they are saying, we could give you two hours of audio sampling, but we may want to charge you £1,200 for that product in a year - so we won't. The only reason to get this is for Roland's track record on long-term hardware and software support ;)
@inf0tr8r
@inf0tr8r 3 жыл бұрын
@@watercolourmark they're a bizarre company, half in the future and half up their own arses
@subtorq
@subtorq 3 жыл бұрын
Such a game changer here. Roland listened and really pushed some boundaries with the 707. I love it for playing live Techno 👍😎🇦🇺
@berendpilon1632
@berendpilon1632 2 жыл бұрын
Question; Do you create whole songs, and play them live in sequence? (E.g. like Ableton or the older Grooveboxes?) Or more simply put; can you use this as a standalone for a seamless liveset without any other equipment if you wanted too? Thanks in advance!
@H4NDCRAFTED
@H4NDCRAFTED 3 жыл бұрын
Scatter also gives essentially two more multi effects to chain , you can even bypass the scatter and just have the two extra effects.
@spookylaundry3326
@spookylaundry3326 3 жыл бұрын
This is my first groovebox since the Korg EMX. It really fills all my needs.
@thejuice1254
@thejuice1254 Жыл бұрын
ohhh really?! I've been searching for a replacement to the ESX for what feels like my entire life!!! I'm literally most of the way through creating some kind of frankenstein set up made up of multiple midi controllers and Bitwig studio and all I want to do primarily with it is replicate the sequencing and tweaking aspect of the ESX/EMX just for the initial idea generation and then go on to do more complex programming from there. Now i've discovered this. So if I can do that from outside the DAW and stream multi channel audio in then great this gets me to the same point, but with the bonus that the hands on features will go an awful lot deeper than this cobbled together midi set up that i've made. I've been considering elektron analogue rytm because it was multi channel audio, poly end play looks great but no multi channel audio so I wrote that off. So this really could be the one. Hands on, intuitive, as intuitive as the ESX/EMX u think? And with a massive sound pallet, and get the audio straight into the DAW. I can't honestly think of anything else thats sitting in the same space as this in terms of features. It very well could be the one for me.
@waynesilverman3048
@waynesilverman3048 6 ай бұрын
I do sampling by aux on my rc 505 looper but still carnt get it on my korg electribe 2 sampler not even sync in minilogue through (I must benot press in something I've got the midi lead
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 3 жыл бұрын
Alternatvely, they should add a system parameter to toggle between making [Shift] a hold button or a toggle button. The Shift button on Modal's Skulpt and Argon8 is a toggle button, making one-handed operation possible. There's a master multi-band compressor and EQ in addition to the master delay/chorus and reverb, and even an optional insert effect to go with those at the user's discretion, not including the insert effect and EQ per channel, plus EQ per oscillator in the individual synth patches.
@DrGrooveBeat
@DrGrooveBeat 3 жыл бұрын
You can also transfer and create patches from Zenology plugin back to the hardware very soon with Zenology pro. Also the MC-707 contains many of the sounds from Synth Legends pack, AX Edge keytar, Supernatural synth and XV-5080. Nice t-shirt Nick... you look well 👍
@shookstylez
@shookstylez 3 жыл бұрын
Dont care what negative people say, but Roland is such incredible company. They really bring out quality stuff.
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 3 жыл бұрын
Marcusmiller $1000 machine with limited sampling, only 8 track, tiny oled screen, etc.... Yeah that’s incredible alright 🤣
@tarekith
@tarekith 3 жыл бұрын
Love this little box :)
@gazfunk
@gazfunk 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t need it but I want it. Nice review guys.
@gazfunk
@gazfunk 3 жыл бұрын
You Were Born To Sing With The Guitar I see. That makes sense.
@D.Z.A.-kp8lf
@D.Z.A.-kp8lf 3 жыл бұрын
@You Were Born To Sing With The Guitar 😐 Why the Bill Gates hate?
@bigmoneysteppa
@bigmoneysteppa 3 жыл бұрын
Proper honest reviews.
@astropolia
@astropolia 3 жыл бұрын
Since this video more features have been added: Arpeggiator, Generic USB Driver (for ipads etc) and a random tone generator. Good stuff!!!
@ghost_in_the_robot
@ghost_in_the_robot 2 жыл бұрын
How does it handle live looping though? I know it can be brains, but can it control MIDI cc like the Octatrack?
@anthonyballoni4824
@anthonyballoni4824 3 жыл бұрын
21:50 Gaz, I wish it were like that, which seems logical, but, at least on my 707, the encoders are stuck on fine tuning and I pretty much have my finger on SHIFT all the time to get the values moving in larger increments. Take the filter cutoff as an example. I counted 92 knob turns to range from 0 to 1023. 92 knob turns. With SHIFT pressed this operation becomes faster, but the transitions are stepped. And I must hold the SHIFT button. Someone may suggest using the assignable control knobs. Great! Considering their range goes from 7 to 5 o'clock, when assigned to cutoff, or ADSR, they have a bipolar range (-64 to +63) where the action only happens between 7 and 11 o'clock (for the cutoff) or between 12 and 4 o'clock for decay or release for ex. I am forced to choose which 3 parameters I want to have easy access to, but they aren't even calibrated. I found that in settings you can offset the start point of the active range of the CTL knobs, but not scale it so that the knob becomes fully active all the way from left to right. It's nice that there are so many deep editing functions in the menu but for a product labelled as a 'groovebox', having quick access to ADSR, LFO and Filter should be a given. My take away from all this is that Roland's concept of groovebox has shifted from real time electronic music (= multitrack sequencer with hands-on control for live sound editing), to a loop launcher with insanely massive sound editing buried in the menu. Why? And what a pity! I really wanted to love this instrument. By the way, great reviews as usual!
@aleksd7832
@aleksd7832 3 жыл бұрын
What’s most amazing is considering how future flung the octatrack really is. This MC707 is really trying to keep up with the octatrack but outside of that zen engine....hmmm. Having both together is a good idea.
@darenager
@darenager 3 жыл бұрын
The 62 seconds total sampling time is a deal breaker indeed, I’m glad that you mentioned it and highlighted the issue, I only wish I had known before buying one then returning it a few days later once I discovered it myself a few months back. I had hoped by now it would have been fixed in the 2 firmware updates since, but I think the fact that it hasn’t means is a hardware issue. A shame because it means that after a few clips you don’t have enough space to continue, daft design.
@blazrodic
@blazrodic Жыл бұрын
What a step backwards - Roland MC-909 in 2003 had 25 minutes of sampling time, and could record any MIDI CC as automation (707 is limited to 4 parameters per track). Screen was a lot bigger on the 909 too - MC-707 screen is about the same as on my printer...
@MikeFelkerVideos
@MikeFelkerVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Great review guys! I agree. The MC-707 is a beast but if they could just overcome the 60 second limit (I, too, read about the 12 minutes of mono/6 minutes of stereo record time) that seems self-imposed, this groovebox would be stellar!
@dpotta
@dpotta 3 жыл бұрын
loving the south west massive attack vibes you have created on that 707. that vibe is in your veins down there, right? also - the duo of reviewers format works well too imo, thanks.
@allisterwhitehead
@allisterwhitehead 3 жыл бұрын
I've got one and for me the MC 707 is a live game changer. You can do complex, pro sounding dance music which isn't at all dependent on long samples. Plus, it's simple and uncomplicated enough to really enjoy using it live. A dawless set up in one box.
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 3 жыл бұрын
DAWless setup in one Roland DAW box? XD
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 3 жыл бұрын
@@allisterwhitehead right, so you had said that there's a lack of a digital audio workstation by using one of Roland's digital audio workstations? :^)
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 3 жыл бұрын
@@allisterwhitehead if you don't care for Roland DAWs, why are you posting in the comments section of a video review about a Roland DAW?
@MattGreerMusic
@MattGreerMusic 3 жыл бұрын
The zooming and editing of the sample does indeed look Digitaktish but the old Roland SP-606 was very similar as well.
@karl9411
@karl9411 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks guy ,ill be walking on by on this .Phew nearly came a cropper and bought it .62 secs sample time ( laugh) ,no song mode ,no mix mode ,no arp . Of course they'll add all these features in an even more expensive follow up .
@nexuzeb79
@nexuzeb79 3 жыл бұрын
You lovely people! Forgot to mention the customizable LFO function!!!! 4 dubsteppers with patience ;)
@joebrewer4529
@joebrewer4529 3 жыл бұрын
So internally there is a 20 channel I/o mixer they can send and receive? so you could stream live mixes from your computer to a USB stick stereo? But not to the SD card? How does the mixer run through the actual physical unit? Is a 62 seconds sampling time global or per track?
@banjoemily3852
@banjoemily3852 3 жыл бұрын
This mirrors my feelings: great machine, sounds good, fun to play, intuitive to use, NEEDS BETTER LOOPER FUNCTIONS!
@Wagoo
@Wagoo 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it'd be great if in a future firmware given a minimum spec of SDcard inserted, they could then use the internal looper space as a cache for streaming from the card..
@watercolourmark
@watercolourmark 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, you think Roland is going to update the firmware. I wouldn't hold your breath on that update.
@Wagoo
@Wagoo 3 жыл бұрын
Well it's an "it'd be great" in a.. if Roland don't throw all this stuff out when they find their next buzzword laden gear to eulogise about.. although I did end up buying one last week >_
@watercolourmark
@watercolourmark 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wagoo they are very market speak with those buzzwords. ACB = actual circuit behaviour = just some old circuit modelling. Every 2 years they have the best ever engine, you white noise will be whiter than white. Makes you think that they are getting better and may be good one day, odd logical stance for marketing. How many engines can you make for the same boring sounds?
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 3 жыл бұрын
streaming from the card will require that the SD memory interface chip be fast enough for that, which is likely not the case in order to save on production costs
@blindboybutler
@blindboybutler 3 жыл бұрын
It frustrates me why these machines have such short sample time. In this day and age they should all be able to play multiple full length songs.
@Syntox
@Syntox 3 жыл бұрын
It's mind blowing, considering how cheap memory is now.
@cliffnboyzy
@cliffnboyzy 11 ай бұрын
What is the sample time on MC707?
@DavidRockvoice
@DavidRockvoice 3 ай бұрын
I couldn't even use all sample slots on a project of the Circuit Rhythm by just recording normal one shot length samples. Ridiculous.
@Simmonsssss
@Simmonsssss 3 жыл бұрын
So is there only 62 seconds of temporary memory sample time per project that's open? ie if Im recording a bass guitar into it on a project, once I do 2x31second recording of bass I cant pull anything else in for the whole project unless its saved to the SD card?
@mzmarksist
@mzmarksist 3 жыл бұрын
great review do you know if there's a way of fixing the sync issue between the 707 and the mpc live they just don't sync well any i try..
@MusicWizard85
@MusicWizard85 2 жыл бұрын
I'm laughing at every comment complaining about the 62 seconds of sample time. These people obviously don't know how to use a DAW with MC707 to get as much time as they want!! 🤣✌️
@H4NDCRAFTED
@H4NDCRAFTED 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got mine sending from the reverb , which it lets you mute , and then that goes to my iPad Pro and can have massive send and return effects chains , then you can automate the send. Just wish it had a proper sampler
@DaveDaves
@DaveDaves 2 жыл бұрын
Gaz, so nice to finally hear someone else sees how Roland's digital synthesis goes all the way back to their first in the D-50 with the four layer/partial/tone (they've called it various things over the years) having the toggles for selecting the 4 for editing and toggles for on/off, I see that here and I see that all the way back to D-50 but nobody else seems to mention that. Similarly, yea I am enthused to see that some of the terminology like TVF is kept consistent - I grew up with a D-20 and was always perplexed by the those set of terms and such (thinking I'd never understand) only to learn they were just fancy new names for the same exact equivalents from analog subtractive sysnthesis. OMG 60 seconds max sampling!? As you say, this is ridiculous Roland crap just like usual, they shoot themselves in the foot, because in this day/age storage & RAM are inexpensive.....c'mon......
@lightoffuturedays
@lightoffuturedays 3 жыл бұрын
So, for live use, to send a master mix and a click to a drummer, is that going to use up 2 of the eight available tracks? or is there another solution for that? sorry if that sounds like a stupid question.
@davidvochocjr1005
@davidvochocjr1005 3 жыл бұрын
Rg the SHIFT button - the only and very important case when I’m appreciating the position is launching scenes 5-8, maybe that’s the reason why to keep it upper left
@RonCavagnaro
@RonCavagnaro 3 жыл бұрын
Appears to be pretty fun but out of desk space. I would only probably use it as a sound module triggered by my deluge! All the stuff you're talking about what it's missing is found in deluge. Would be a great pair! Long as you want recording is readily available on deluge, and overdubbing!
@maarzt
@maarzt 3 жыл бұрын
hey Ron! As someone who still has some desk real estate, I definitely found myself thinking about how the 707 and the Deluge (which I have) might coexist and compliment each other nicely. Obviously looping and sampling is better handled with the D, but there is something about the way in which this is laid out knob, button and slider-wise and especially the screen that speaks to me.
@RonCavagnaro
@RonCavagnaro 3 жыл бұрын
@@maarzt you could record stuff from your 707 performances into Deluge or sequence from deluge to use 707 as a sound module which you can record in loops as long as you want. Deluge is really endless and inspiring.
@RonCavagnaro
@RonCavagnaro Жыл бұрын
A year later I end up buying this lol we will see how I like it
@Code_Unknown_Music
@Code_Unknown_Music 3 жыл бұрын
Love the 101. One thing that surprised me is how good the pad sounds are for such a tiny unit.
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 3 жыл бұрын
ir's not $500 for nothing
@roberthoffmeister
@roberthoffmeister 3 жыл бұрын
The pads on the 101 (hardware) are worse than on the 707. They respond pretty sluggish... returned it after 1 week.
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 3 жыл бұрын
@@roberthoffmeister oh wow, that blows however, did you ever mess with the pad sensitivity in system settings? I actually cranked that up in my 707's settings, and there are three parameters that govern drum pad sensitivity
@roberthoffmeister
@roberthoffmeister 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jason75913 the Roland sales rep at my local store (Roland employee), admitted the difference between 101 and 707... I had both and returned thr 101
@twiglet2214
@twiglet2214 2 жыл бұрын
Hi i wonder if you could help please ? I'm not a musician but i am interested in creating my own electronic music and my research has dug up 2 choices - the Roland MC 707 and the Uno Synth Pro Desktop and price consideration to one side what would you recommend ? I've found the M-Audio Oxygen Pro Mini 32 key midi which is also compact, as space is a consideration, and that would give me a keypad and touch pad option so wondered if you could throw any light on the subject for me ? Just want to have a bit of fun with it ( the MC 707 looks like it could be more suited to a non musician ) but i'm interested in your view and would much appreciate some light on the matter !
@simonsherbourne
@simonsherbourne 3 жыл бұрын
Agree it's really nearly the dream machine. For me the main frustration was that there's no way to store your own patches outside of a project. Also no instant scene/clip change.
@notsure1135
@notsure1135 3 жыл бұрын
Simon Sherbourne that is a step backwards, even the 505 did allow that.
@ACCOUNTANTB
@ACCOUNTANTB 11 ай бұрын
The idea of building clips (patches) is amazing !! - Its like running ableton inside....But i really wish it has at least 32 step sequencer
@craigmoran893
@craigmoran893 10 ай бұрын
I think the limit of 1 clip is up to 128 steps.
@tr1co0
@tr1co0 3 жыл бұрын
Just checking in, did Roland address the looper time limitation?
@Fallowsun
@Fallowsun 3 жыл бұрын
I have one and think, all things considered, it’s probably the overall best instrument ever made. That said I mostly just play guitar these days and have only made a few songs with the 707. It’s just so powerful and usable
@MikkelGrumBovin
@MikkelGrumBovin 3 жыл бұрын
That pretty big words...i guess ill have to check it out in my local music shop,- ;-)
@futumama1
@futumama1 3 жыл бұрын
This machine is very difficult ... but for professional musicians i mean old electronic fighters like this mans in video it's the holy grail! yehh
@ElektronicCricket
@ElektronicCricket 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed something but ... After making a song, how many songs can you store and the time to load songs for live .... For me is that the most important feature. I'm looking for something to replace the MC 50 micro composer from the 90'. This was an awesome device back in time. The only drawback was that little screen but you could record very quickly and also 16 channels ! ... Is this a must have ?
@christianthompson1473
@christianthompson1473 3 жыл бұрын
Sample manglin? Can you adjust sample time and pitch using them knobs?
@cresshead
@cresshead 3 жыл бұрын
I have quite a few roland products: fa-06, TD30, jdxi, jx-03, jp-08, rc-505 system 1 and gaia sh01... I was looking for a central hub type product however on the capabilities i chose: Akai MPC One as my solution akai has loopers ( with over dub unlike mc707), 8 audio tracks, 128 midi tracks, cv/gate, extensive sampler with 4 layers, auto sampling for external midi instruments, big color touch display. mc707 is pretty good and i like the sound of the zen synth engine.
@liothomasart
@liothomasart 3 жыл бұрын
16:28 I was like "NOOOO" and this is how the MPC beats MC 707....too bad!
@cresshead
@cresshead 3 жыл бұрын
@@liothomasart also.. 8 tracks max.. what is this 1970's? :) re mc 707 ( my fa-06 does 16 tracks )
@liothomasart
@liothomasart 3 жыл бұрын
cresshead my Modx has 16 tracks 😂 I think the MPC got more?
@cresshead
@cresshead 3 жыл бұрын
@@liothomasart 128 tracks on the mpc
@gabrielvalentin3106
@gabrielvalentin3106 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please have a video on how to use the effects on a track.
@LukeLendrum
@LukeLendrum 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to receiving my TR8S this week. ^_^
@markchristopher2signal2
@markchristopher2signal2 3 жыл бұрын
Luke Lendrum I want to upgrade my tr8
@LukeLendrum
@LukeLendrum 3 жыл бұрын
@@markchristopher2signal2 to what?
@markchristopher2signal2
@markchristopher2signal2 3 жыл бұрын
TR8s.
@LukeLendrum
@LukeLendrum 3 жыл бұрын
@@markchristopher2signal2 do it!
@markchristopher2signal2
@markchristopher2signal2 3 жыл бұрын
Luke Lendrum what made u choose this than MC707
@blueeyedsoulman
@blueeyedsoulman 3 жыл бұрын
OK, when is the 16 track version coming?
@kiros75
@kiros75 Жыл бұрын
Hey Nick! I know it's an old video. I recently got an mc-101. I was asking myself about the mute states that you mentioned are saved with scenes in the mc-707(would be the most logical and useful approach). Is this true? Because in the mc-101 the mute states are saved with the clips which is an absolutely stupid design decision. We could have had so much more if the mutes(drum pad) were saved in the scenes..
@cresshead
@cresshead 3 жыл бұрын
excellent video.. yeh the looper time is restrictive, though you do have 12mins. mono/6mins. stereo for sample loading on to a drum pad/kit, overall it's pretty brilliant and there are hints that a song mode maybe coming too in a firmware update.
@VJFranzK
@VJFranzK 3 жыл бұрын
10:15 Yes, not quite a "looper"! And it could have been. (I wonder if it could be updated in software?) I'm a constant user of their RC505 Looper - so straightforward, easy to use! The new MC's are so powerful, but not "easy", everything seems to take 1-2 steps more than it could.
@GrootsieTheDog
@GrootsieTheDog 2 жыл бұрын
Probability functionality is almost a given with new gen grooveboxes - really hope it is included in 1.8 update!
@joesgreatestates
@joesgreatestates 3 жыл бұрын
Yes awesome review. I learned a lot from the presentation. How can I set it up so I can jam and record a guitar right into the loop?
@sonicstate
@sonicstate 3 жыл бұрын
Î think it should just plug straight in, but otherwise if you have a guitar FX or amp line out should do it
@iTimestretcher
@iTimestretcher 3 жыл бұрын
You guys should really try the Akai Force, same idea, of everything in one unit, but it has way more capacity, you can put an ssd drive inside, you sequence tons of stuff for in the unit itself, plus tons of midi tracks for external gear. I love Roland gear, but since I got the Force, it changed my whole workflow, the Force is now the center piece of my studio. And, it's self contained but it can also control Ableton Live at the same time, it's unbelievable, I love it.
@maccagrabme
@maccagrabme 3 жыл бұрын
But the synth engine on this is way better.
@iTimestretcher
@iTimestretcher 3 жыл бұрын
@@maccagrabme But on the Force, sampling is better, the storage is better, you have way more midi tracks to control all of your gear, not just 11 channels or whatever it was. But, regardless, I'm not bashing the 707, I might get one of them too, I was just saying, they were complaining about the sampling time, ect.. well, the Force does not have such small restrictions, and it can control your whole studio basically. And the synth engine isn't bad either, but I have tons of synths I use anyway, which I can sample into the Force.
@toddglacysacredsoundandliv7971
@toddglacysacredsoundandliv7971 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your overall review and appreciate the demo/insight. After working with my 707 for a few weeks now I totally agree with the frustration regarding the insanely limited sample time. Sure, there is plenty of other features that keep this unit useful and interesting working within it's limitations, and It's encouraging that Roland keeps providing useful firmware updates.... but as of 1.8 in 2023, sadly still no change on this severe limitation to "global domination".
@mojodrum3215
@mojodrum3215 3 жыл бұрын
Try the "Akai Force" you can record long tracks long loop times and overdub. It also has a lot of fx's and a 7 inch colour screen which is much more enjoyable to view then this small screen it also has two inputs for your instruments and cv.
@MikeFelkerVideos
@MikeFelkerVideos 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Akai Force and will be linking my MC-707 to it through MIDI. It'll be a blast!
@dhruvalance1323
@dhruvalance1323 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, are you having the master sync as the Keystep pro?
@111Dark84
@111Dark84 3 жыл бұрын
Hey love ur videos loved this one too it would be rather nice if Roland put out a mc 909 and so on and do u have music on bandcamp iTunes etc cheers and be safe
@ChrisP3000x
@ChrisP3000x 3 жыл бұрын
What are the "disk streaming" requests all about on the MPC? Is that kind of the same issue with the MC-707 here?
@Jason75913
@Jason75913 3 жыл бұрын
relatively
@thehowlingterror
@thehowlingterror 2 жыл бұрын
Nice direction by Nick B. 😊
@adamdoran235
@adamdoran235 3 жыл бұрын
Great review, but please tell me - 3000 sounds, can you save patches to a favourite folder?
@pricejoss
@pricejoss 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know but it seems like users are hopeful that Roland updates the patch and sample options in the next update
@aloharay
@aloharay 3 жыл бұрын
I own this and agree with everything stated, but would add one detail: As of august 2020 the ability to move patches across from other zen core devices is not fully implemented. I believe this is slated to come this fall and may require the zen core software from Roland Cloud.
@rnedp760
@rnedp760 3 жыл бұрын
Great video - the virtual lab worked great. I know it's nit-picking, but I can't get over the bleached out LCD on this and the X/Xm. If Akai /NI can put OLEDs in their mini keyboards, it seems like a daft choice not to in higher-end gear.
@annother3350
@annother3350 3 жыл бұрын
Dont know if this is true but I heard that LCDs have more longevity and are more reliable than OLEDs right now
@rnedp760
@rnedp760 3 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Fishfingers Yup. Well said.
@trevormalcolm4328
@trevormalcolm4328 3 жыл бұрын
I thought you did a review at the time of release! Better late than never. 👍🏽
@sonicstate
@sonicstate 3 жыл бұрын
We went to the Roland launch and filmed something with David Ahlund
@trevormalcolm4328
@trevormalcolm4328 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, found the David Ahlund talk. Still nice to get a review after a few months of decent practical use
@orangewiggler6838
@orangewiggler6838 3 жыл бұрын
Trevor Malcolm Better late than early imho 😄.
@sashas3362
@sashas3362 3 жыл бұрын
They need to make a successor to the MV series of drum machine workstations (MV-8000 & MV-8800).Hopefully Roland is practicing on making a successor to the MV-8000 or MV-8800 with this machine.
@analogkid1261
@analogkid1261 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking this is like a modern take on the MV-30
@crjmccc
@crjmccc 3 жыл бұрын
No motorised faders though! I miss my mc808. Resisting all temptation to buy this until I see what teenage engineering replace the OP1 with. It would have to be something incredibly similar.
@kevinsturges6957
@kevinsturges6957 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope there’s a computer or iPad editor for this.
@alancalvitti
@alancalvitti 3 жыл бұрын
adding up both studios, how many wall warts total
@agnzmusic3358
@agnzmusic3358 3 жыл бұрын
The sp16 was updated from 32sec sample max to 64 sec, so hopefully Its not outside the realm of possibility
@SynthgodXXX
@SynthgodXXX 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome! Great review & demo!
@hardtekk90
@hardtekk90 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna hook this up with a 1010Blackbox + digitakt and a keystep and be done with my liveset.
@2wheelsoffroad730
@2wheelsoffroad730 3 жыл бұрын
Why are we limited to 60s of sample time in 2020/21!!??? Would have been interested in buying it if it wasn't for that.
@sohatyi
@sohatyi 3 жыл бұрын
Sample time is actually 12 mono minutes, 6 stereo, but only 62s allocated to the looper. So if you're using samples outside of the looper, you have a lot more space.
@vinceriley
@vinceriley 3 жыл бұрын
If you watch a clock for 62s.. its way more than most people should need... else I'll dust off the Z4.
@watercolourmark
@watercolourmark 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinceriley - untill you divide it by 8 across 4 bars at 80bpm. The point is, no reason to limit it. Time should be as big as your SD card... It is 2020 FFS.
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