McCagg: Anaheim May Pass On Silayev & Demidov - Prospect Talk #56

On this episode of The Sick Podcast, Brian Wilde joins Grant McCagg and Shayne Gaumond to discuss the combine, rumblings about Anaheim's 3rd overall pick, Patrik Laine requesting a trade and more!
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[@lauig]

Brian is hilarious ! Glad you brought him on, had some very interesting takes & perspectives to share as well.

[@RobertLejeuneQc]

I am such a Brian Wilde fan. Wish he was on more podcast!!

[@costa328]

Agree

[@themilosh895]

He adds a more realistic take, but it he interrupts far too much.. needs to learn radio courtesy.

[@charles6180]

@@themilosh895 This happens all the time in podcasts. If you watch Recrutes, McCaag probably interrupts Rocco a dozen times every podcast.

[@PAPMEDIA24]

Great show and great insight. I always enjoy hearing what Brian has to say, I've been listening and watching him for a long time.

[@nicktsirmbas3637]

Grant you should be in Las Vegas come on Man your the best listen from all guest on Marinaro love your show

[@GrantMcCagg-yn4fy]

Hey - I appreciate it! I couldn't get away this time, but they will have me on when they broadcast.

[@SorcRogier]

Love Brian as a guest. So knowledgeable and funny

[@nowucme1106]

Brian was a great addition to the podcast guys! Your all fuckin great! ❤

[@yosemitesaddam]

This is the one of the best episode yet! Keep this lineup!

[@jordanyoung2280]

Awesome show gentleman! Bring Brian back he was a great guess

[@user-pm6um7zc5j]

Excellent podcast. Brian is so practical in his analysis, you can grab onto it. You three mesh 100% perfect.

[@rickroberts5401]

Great show as always guys and I really enjoyed listening to Brian...

[@russellsmith4195]

I really enjoyed this episode Extremely informative, great energy Really hope to see Brian on again Great Show/Job Guys 👏

[@nelsonribeiro3088]

Great show guys. Brian was really excellent

[@mannyo2909]

What Grant failed to mention regarding Laine is the fact the Laine has only played 45 ish games over the past 4 seasons due to injuries. I’d be more keen on it if he was less injury prone but he isn’t.

[@1993Ski]

Brian's awesome. Hope he comes back

[@gerryc2029]

Love Brian... He was a hoot! I know you can't likely say, but what is the Billy reference about...???

[@guythibodeau4976]

Corey Pronman said today that Lindstrom back injury is a slipped disc and not a back muscle injury. Some GM's might think twice and He might fall since it's more serious than previously thought.

[@GrantMcCagg-yn4fy]

Yes...if he injured it doing squats, it was a slipped disc

[@jonsmith9518]

Brian was a class act.

[@michaelb1621]

Pastranak went 25 to bos and we got sherbak at 26...that's how much uncertainty there can be.

[@maxpatenaude2115]

Yakemchuk to Anahein, i believe it ! He'd be a heck a good fit there, especially that Drysdale (right D) is gone. If Levy goes to Chicago

[@Doppps]

A source close to the situation has told me that a trade is in the works with New Jersey and close to done. Matheson, Armia and the 26th pick for Holz and 10th overall pick. You heard it hear first.

[@thartley16]

I like it. pull the trigger Kent

[@Mike_DB_9]

Brian’s a gem. Would love if he was a more frequent guest.

[@THEGDB]

Look at Florida right now , bought low on Bennett, low on Reinhardt and low on montour , so while it is a risk , trading for Laine makes a ton of sense ,short term commitment to find out if he's a fit in Montreal.

[@manuelgasse]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Celebrini, Demidov, Lindstrom and Seneke aren’t available at 5. That would be terrible.

[@maxpatenaude2115]

I don't think so. Dickinson, Buium, Silayev, Parekh, Levshunov and Yakemchuk could all go top 5. And Chi, Ana, Col all went for a forward last year too. I feel like this year, its gonna be a D heavy top 5, other than Celebrini obviously. It could go like this; 1-Celebrini 2-Levshunov 3-Yakemchuk 4-Dickinson 5- Mtl's dream scenario or headache to pick a forward lol

[@josephfilice9538]

Excellent

[@user-ku8qw8bg8c]

Love grant ! Totally agree with his picks ! Tell me guys what would it take to get the utah pick !!!??

[@jo12danjames]

I guess Brian never seen the catton iginla fight. Tij is not his dad and Berkeley punches above his weight.

[@Lebowski55]

Helenius is 5'11" and Kopitar is 6'3". They are pretty different players.

[@terrylarson7596]

Great show fellas, This confirmed to me that the Habs can't make a bad pick here. My gut tells me Demidov if he is available, but I would be happy with Lindstrom of Iggy, or , or. or !!!

[@mr.otterpockets3854]

Lindstrom has a herniated disc. I expect him to fall a few picks. Minimal 5-6 months

[@moviestoshare813]

GRANT !!! Curious to know your take on Lindstrom’s injury. Apparently it’s a herniated disc If that’s really the case, what do you make of it ? Would that turn Lindstrom from a Top-5 consideration, to someone almost outside the 1st round of some teams ? Because of how serious that is ?

[@vdac1068]

Suzuki will get to 100 pts 85-90 this season 90-100 in next 2-3 years

[@michaelb1621]

The wildman!

[@charles6180]

C'mon Grant, are you making outrageous statements just for the sake of it? Lindstrom should not be compared to Dach. For years Dach has missed a significant number of games so a comparison would only be fair if Dach was not injury prone. Given Dach's injuries, how far is he ahead of Lindstrom? You suggest Lindstrom should play on the wing then why not draft a winger like Tij or Sennecke? This podcast was obviously recorded prior to the terrible news that Lindstrom suffered a herniated disc however stats indicate a high percentage of professional athletes do recover and especially at his age. In Hugo I trust so if Lindstrom / Demidov / Catton are concerns then there are plenty of great prospects in this draft and Habs will get one. Great seeing Brian on the podcast!

[@costa328]

I would love to know which players you drafted with Bob. Enjoy your knowledge of the game and players

[@user-ki8rx5uv1q]

I was reading Doug MacLean’s book “Draft Day” last night and came across him talking about zherdev the 4th overall pick. He said he had the most talent of the draft but just didn’t work. The skill was through the roof but the character of the player and the off ice bs caused him to not reach his projection. It got me thinking , hopefully we do our homework on Demidov. I know the habs will but just got me thinking.

[@moviestoshare813]

Those concerns were there for Michkov. They aren’t for Demidov

[@danielmontreal007]

Brian Wild mixes everything up. Bobrov speaking of the unicorn was referring to Florian Xhekaj not Slafkovkÿ. Please asked Brian Wild why he wanted to trade Beck and Mesar a few months after the 2022 draft???

[@moviestoshare813]

Slafs was considered a unicorn by pretty much every scout entering the 2022 Draft. Doesn’t have to be Bobrov who said it

[@danielmontreal007]

@@moviestoshare813 Thank you for proving me right. To contradict me you make up a story.

[@loukdare2904]

Hey Grant, Rocco's not the only one with the Jesus halo, look at Brian ! 😂

[@matthewlarose9958]

What about a package with 26 to get into the top 15. Also Buffalo and New Jersey want to move their picks!

[@ChrisMakesBeats]

This show is better than Tony's, the experts get to do most of the talking

[@jamescoogan4167]

What was the name of the player from the QMJHL that wasn’t invited to the combine ?

[@robertlegault9226]

Justin Poirier

[@mimmoferrulli8987]

more Wilde man please

[@dav4303]

Laine is worth the gamble he will be cheap. One of the top shooters in the league. If he doesn’t work out we didn’t sell the farm to at least try

[@pierrelalonde3705]

the draft is luck you can't foretell the future. Brayden Point was chosen at 79th, awesome player..

[@TonyPrigioniero]

salary would have to go back to Columbus. Maybe unload Dvorak & the 26th pick for Laine. This allows Montreal to go with Newhook as your 3C ,replacing Dvorak

[@Bartman721]

SICK

[@Roadtok-st9nr]

Hey brian, zach benson had 30 pts in 71 games as an 18 years old 😂

[@pierrelalonde3705]

WoW how did you do that ???..... when Hughes picked Slafkovsky....what a pick, Slav proved to a lot of so called analyst, that they were wrong, he is a number 1

[@ronaldshaw3693]

Bring back Brian, great guess !

[@glenncampbell2493]

What if Montreal trades 2 of they're defensive talent like Hudson and Harris for top forward.Then pick a guy on defensive at 5 to replace them.

[@ronaldmcdonald8764]

How can you say they will not draft a guy when Demidov and Silayev haven’t even had their combine?

[@mike8099m]

I’d assume they would trade Dow if that was the case. Just passing on them would be dumb.

[@victorjoseph8948]

lINSTRUM dOCK AND SLAVKOSKY ??? would that be a number 1 line?

[@jacobperez10]

The catton snubbing is absolutely wild

[@michaelgardner1795]

He should be top five. He’s the first guy I’d take from the WHL

[@MrMrneil1]

lindstrom a power forward, a playoff scorer like vancouver's zadarov joshua & lindholm, in 1st round, tired by 2nd round.

[@MrMrneil1]

senneke I accepted when he crept into the top 20, but absolutely no higher, most like doug wickenheiser, size and stickhandle, but that's it.

[@moviestoshare813]

Height… not size yet. He’s still at 180lbs… At 6’3-6’4… he could get up to 220lbs. So he’s got 40lbs of muscle to put on. That’s incredible in terms of room to fill in. Add to that : One of the best hands of the draft. One of the best vision & playmaking of the draft Great skater Decent shot Doesn’t mind playing physical I mean… What else do you want ?! 😅

[@shmitzysays]

Zero chance Brian wasn’t boozing before he came on. 😂

[@rickyaz8640]

Shane Wright has 5 goals in 16 NHL games, the coach who wouldn’t play him has been canned for the guy who developed him in the AHL. We’re gonna find out pretty soon….

[@mike8099m]

Wright is gonna be good. They did a good job taking the time to developing him.

[@0canadiens81]

Always excuses with this kid. Always.

[@MrXanderii]

I would pass on demidov. Catton or ignilia is a guaranteed quality top 6 calibre player

[@moviestoshare813]

Demidov has the best hands since Patrick Kane (excluding McDavid) and he’s the closest thing to Pavel Datsyuk… SINCE Pavel Datsyuk

[@noluck9679]

Habs won’t draft at 26 the pick will be dealt.

[@SharksOregon]

So… To the Habs: 14th overall To the Sharks: 26th, Mailloux, and a 2025 2nd Thoughts????

[@moviestoshare813]

I think Mailloux on his own might be worth the 14th pick 😅🤷‍♂️ Romanov +98th pick got the 13th pick few years ago

[@jelugo77]

Is it just me or is 25% of young prospects called Cole?

[@AnaheimRob]

If Levshunov is off the table I can see Anaheim looking at Carter Yakemchuk but do they draft him at third or trade the pick to say, Utah or Seatle or something like that.

[@CouldntBeFowler]

This is so ignorant of the Ducks it’s funny. So many Hab’s fans (among others) out there wishing. Verbeek literally personally showed up to the “Russian combine” in person. He’s gone to great personal lengths to check out the Russians. He could just rely on scouts if he wasn’t that interested.

[@habinations]

woo brian wilde ! my top 5 celebrini demidov levshunov lindstrom parekh

[@mike8099m]

That’s about where I’m at.

[@powers1500]

About Laine : Would he truly fit the culture Montreal is trying to establish ??? Furthermore, he would be the highest paid player on the team...while not being the best player, Suzuki is !!!

[@moviestoshare813]

He would definitely need to stay pretty low-profile when coming in the locker room. And fall in line with what the leaders of the team tell him is the way they operate here

[@bradhazen215]

Why don't you just call this a Montreal Canadiens pod cast!. Jess there's another 31 teams out there?

[@Goldwing963]

Its a hab pod cast not a leaf crying pod cast

[@mikecats]

Brian is a clone of jack todd…

[@tomslick2058]

I would take Demitov, Lindstrom or Iginla over those two overated defensiveman. Unfortunately my Blackhawks will likely take Levshunov. They have the cap for Laine. Habs you want Demitov. Give Chicago 5 and 26.

[@brianchandler9698]

Time is well past to flush the Laine talk.Gamble on signing Monahan or Toffoli no assets required.

[@MrMrneil1]

senneke was 5th on his ohl team in goals and assists, and you rank him higher than 20? you're fired!!

[@Lebowski55]

Anaheim won't have the opportunity to pass on Demidov because he will be off the board.

[@AnaheimRob]

I hope so because Levshunov is exactly who the Ducks need....although there would be no complaints if Demidov did fall to third and Verbeek picks him.

[@mike8099m]

Agreed it’s gonna be cellebrini followed by either demidov Levshenov. That will be 123 picks

[@terrylarson7596]

Sorry , I don't want to watch another REHAB experiment. Let's try Home grown through the Draft.

[@crosbyshow977]

Come on Catton is not at 165 pounds but 175. He will be around 185-190 in the NHL..perfectly fine Catton is smarter than anybody else on the ice....IQ..off chart. Caaton is 4th on my list. He is a lot smarter than Lindstrom. I Lindstrom is 7h for me

[@RicardoMedeiroscourtier]

If I were Kent, I would have 4 picks in first round in 2024 and i would pick 4 forward players: 1) pick #5 2024 2) trade habs 2025 1st rd & 2025 2nd rd & prospect & nhl young player for 2024 top 12 pick. & 3) trade Flames 2025 1st rd & 2025 2nd rd & prospect & young player for 2024 top 15 pick. & 4) trade habs 2024 26th pick & 2nd rd & prospect & young player for 2024 top 15 pick

[@Robin.Woods.]

Weed is strong over there

[@dav4303]

We need NJ 10th. Then draft 2big forwards use 26 on Surin

[@malakaspawt3190]

Following your plan, this is a scenario: San Jose picks Macklin Celebrini 1st overall. Chicago picks Ivan Demidov 2nd overall. Anaheim picks Artyom Levshunov 3rd overall. Colombus picks Cayden Lindstrom 4th overall. Montreal calls their timeout to make a trade. PATH A: MTL trades Matheson, Mailloux, Joshua Roy and 3rd-rd (2024) to Utah for their 6th overall (2024). Montreal walks to the podium. Montreal picks Tij Iginla 5th overall. Montreal calls their 2nd timeout of the draft to make another trade. MTL trades Montembeault, Pezzetta, Anderson (or Armia), and throw also Xhekaj in there if they have to for NJ's 10th overall 2024. Montreal walks to the podium. Montreal picks Bennett Sennecke 6th overall. Ottawa picks Parekh 7th overall. Seattle picks Buium 8th overall. Calgary picks Dickinson 9th overall. Montreal calls a third timeout to make a trade. MTL trades a 4th-rd (2024) Evans, Strubble, Armia (or Anderson whoever we got left) to MIN for their 13th overall. Montreal walks to the podium. Montreal picks Berkly Catton 10th overall. Buffalo picks Carter Yakemchuk 11th overall. Philadelphia picks Cole Eiserman 12th overall. Montreal picks Konsta Helenius 13th overall. Iginla-Sennecke-Catton-Helenius. (4 top 15 draft picks, all forwards.) Check out> path B: Once MTL completes the trade with Utah and acquire their 6th overall. MTL trades their 5th overall (2024) and their other 3rd-rd (2024) for CAL's 9th overall (2024) and 1st-rd pick (2025). Calgary ends up picking Iginla 5th. Montreal picks Sennecke 6th. Ottawa picks Parekh 7th. Seattle picks Buium 8th. Montreal picks Dickinson 9th. Montreal picks Catton 10th. Buffalo picks Yakemchuk 11th. Philadelphia picks Eiserman 12th. Montreal picks Helenius 13th. Sennecke-Dickinson-Catton-Helenius. (3 forwards, 1 D) You emptied your team but it's for the best. Dickinson's floor will be higher than Mailloux', and Dickinson's ceiling is a lot higher. Except for Celebrini, Dickinson is the safest pick because of his floor. Matheson is expandable in a rebuild and Utah needs to draft defense. You're giving them 2 of them, Matheson 29yo who is established and has 5+years left in him and Mailloux who is almost NHL-ready. Joshua Roy and the 3rd-rd is just to grease them and force them to accept. Joshua Roy is expendable. You're getting 2 forwards back anyway; Helenius and Catton (unless you go for Eiserman, Connelly, Greentree, Hage, etc...) We don't need our goalie either, just give it to a team that needs one like NJ. NJ got 18m$ space right now, they could easily absorb the contracts of Montembeault, Pezzetta, Anderson (or Armia), and Xhekaj. They need a goalie and they love grit. Getting Motembeault and Xhekaj would catch their interest pretty quickly. Anderson (or Armia) and Pezzetta are just to grease them up. They would probably even tell you to keep Pezzetta if they didn't have enough space on the cap. The trade is too good for them to refuse. Or they would prefer Pezzetta over Anderson (or Armia) which is not a big deal since we're ready to give them both. We are rebuilding to bring the cup back home. In 5 years+ they will be a playoff team and Patrick Roy will be their coach. Montemb and Xhekaj is exactly what NJ needs, and the two others wouldn't hurt either. They are probably looking to draft a D anyway. So if Anaheim picks up Levshunov, Ottawa picks up Parekh, Seattle picks up Buium, then MTL or CAL picks up Dickinson, then the only 2 guys left for NJ at 10 is Silayev and Yakemchuk. They might be even more inclined to make that trade. And even if NJ wanted Silayev, would they prefer Silayev or Monteambeault, Xhekaj, Pezzetta and Anderson (Armia)? They can't refuse! THEN.. Getting a 1st-rd pick next year from Calgary is a high risk high reward move. I think they will be at the bottom of the standings next year. It's going to be another top 10 pick for sure. So if you're willing to let them have Iginla 5th, you can still have lots of options at 9. You're swapping 5th for 9th and giving a 3rd-rd this year for a 1st next year and like I said, it'll be a top 10 pick. MTL ALREADY HAS two 1st-rd in 2025, so imagine if we add another. That would be 3x 1st-rd picks in 2025!!! This move could pay off big big time. It really depends where is Iginla in your rankings. ALSO There is a small chance that Lindstrom and Demidov are available at 5. I don't think they will be but it would be crazy to get one of them + Iginla. That would throw the Sens in a turmoil between Sennecke and Parekh, who I believe are the two players they want. If they end up choosing Parekh regardless, Seattle might also pick Buium regardless (or Silayev) Then Calgary would pick Dickinson 9th, and MTL you could get Sennecke 10th. That could result in Lindstrom-Iginla-Sennecke or Demidov-Iginla-Sennecke. That would be completely insane! Then you use the 13th acquired from MIN to get your 4th forward. What players would you pick if those 2 scenarios? At 5, 6, 10, 13 and at 6, 9, 10, 13.

[@malakaspawt3190]

@@dav4303 "We need NJ 10th. Then draft 2big forwards use 26 on Surin" Brother, I have Surin around 15-20, currently 18th (Chicago). If he is available at 26th and MTL picks him, it would be nice! Trade Montembeault, Xhekaj, Pezzetta, and Anderson (or Armia) for NJ's 10th overall 2024. NJ wants/needs D, they're not going to draft a forward. 4 of the 6 top Ds; Levshunov, Parekh, Dickinson, and Buium (or Silayev) won't be on the board at 10. So NJ has two choices here. A/ They pick between Yakemchuk and Buium (or Silayev). or B/ They trade their pick for Montembeault, Xhekaj, Pezzetta, and Anderson (or Armia). I think it's a fair deal. Who are the 2 forwards you'd pick? Iginla 5th and if we're lucky Sennecke 10th?

[@michaelchen8201]

Does anyone else fast forward when Mcgagg speaks? He is unbearable.