Is Torture Ever Justified?

Lt. Gen. (ret) Benjamin Freakley commanded U.S. troops in combat many times throughout a long military career, including the 10th Mountain Division in Afghanistan from 2006-7. He currently heads up major leadership programs and initiatives at the McCain Institute and its parent organization, Arizona State University.
Ambassador Clint Williamson has served in several high-level positions key to enforcing international law, including as U.S. ambassador-at-large for war crime issues from 2006-9. He currently is the McCain Institute’s senior director for International Rule of Law and Security and a professor of practice at ASU’s Sandra Day O’Connor Law School.
They join host Luke Knittig for a provocative discussion on whether the use of torture is ever justified and on what can be and is being done for victims, explaining Senator McCain’s outsized influence and continued impact along the way.