McIntosh: Here's My Opinion On This Iconic Brand!

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[@jaysaudiolab]

Please leave me your comments below 👇

[@carlsitler9071]

I appreciated your viewpoint. I think we could all benefit from sharing that way of thinking. The hobby is absolutely subjective. Who do I think I am to believe my opinion is superior to another's? It would be in poor taste for me to hate on you because you review gear out of my budget. I would certainly appreciate experiencing the presentations you have assembled. I would guess the satisfaction is the same: Building the best sounding system the budget allows. If I had $1,000,000 to spend, I would take the same amount of time to research and build a system as it took me with my $1000 system. Now that I am done, I am very satisfied with not only the result, but the journey.

[@jaysaudiolab]

@@carlsitler9071 thank you

[@robtremble2277]

The reason people hate on Mcintosh so much is the resale market you might as well save your money and buy new for what people ask for mediocre gear to today's time and tech people are asking 3799 for a beater looking 2300 and you can go get a 302 or a 402 for a few hundred dollars cheaper how does that make sense mike does have a point McIntosh has kinda become poser audio

[@georgemartinezza]

@pt265 the prices out there really don't fit with the device, it happens with audio, video, vintage, retro or PC, Reebok or Nike and more. the initial price offered by the brand and its official information, is the base to consider other prices. the problem starts with stuff not available or old models that had success, example: Onkyo FR-X7A, the "sellers" offer it for a very high expensive price just because is a fancy and nice mini component that people would like and taking the name ONKYO and the origin JAPAN as a flag to justify the price between other possible features. Something happened with Walkman ya know, it was forgotten, when it appears in a movie, the boom again and the "sellers" again offering it as the best value iconic piece for collectionists. I can offer a mexican money bill famous for the drawing art on it, asking $ 13 000.000 USD, the reality could be different in value and price ya know. about your ears, of course there are differences between models and brands, higher is better, we know it. but there is a limit, when you don't notice the difference really, when the minimal difference with a high priced device is not noticeable, and just with the osciloscope you see with your eyes the difference of audio. that's the point when some people acclaims _this is better, this is really high fi, high end, this is the top of the audiophile_ when the reality is that differennces only appear visually on the osciloscope, very hard to hear them even if the human could. when you come back then you know there are difference in brands and quality, yes, like the sound bar LG, JBL, SONOS, and it happens with some brands of amplifiers or sophisticated systems. and finally, the devices don't fit with me, even if Rafael Nadal gives me a gift to choose an audio system, Cambridge, Marantz or MacIntosh aren't my choice, because I like other kind of music and styles, as Flashbeagle and Snoopy dancing!

[@georgemartinezza]

@@carlsitler9071 _"Who do I think I am to believe my opinion is superior to another's?"_ it happens, and you could be right. you know there are people not just giving an opinion, they say trying to impose their statment when you know that's wrong. There are points of view, opinions or concepts that should be rejected and said them. The ugly thing is people rejects that _because it means you are a hater._ time ago I shared how I connected my speakers in Serial Mode: *L* with 125 W 6Ω and 60W 4Ω, *R* with 125 W 6Ω and 60W 4Ω, ne person said that's no good, and the better way is for *L* the speakrs with 6Ω and for *R* the speakers with 4125 W 6Ω and 60W 4Ω.

[@mikejames-drummerreginacan1386]

It doesn't matter what some audiophiles think of McIntosh, they can't keep up with demand and will sell EVERY piece they make. The build quality is TOP NOTCH with McIntosh and that appeals to many people. I had a Mac C-26 Preamp built in the early 70's that I used EVERYDAY until I sold it in 2018 for what I paid originally.....PLUS they have proven they will be around for the long haul when boutique brands come and go with questionable support. The point is buy what you like and ENJOY THE MUSIC. Cheers !

[@snomofilms]

Great perspective Jay. I replaced my Emotiva XPA2 with a MA352 a few months ago and let’s just say my pants still get tight every time I listen. Comparatively now I have silky smooth sound, much more detail, and no more harsh upper mid range. Not sure what the next step will be in amplification, but I’m happy for now.

[@divadgnol67]

Love your attitude towards audio Jay, also I admire your willingness to be open to all different price points and more importantly you're willingness to be open about the subjectivity of the hobby.

[@1dafirst]

I don't own a McIntosh but I love how honest you are. Some people have so much dislike for a product and it's only a hobby. People should learn to know that. Probably if mcinstosh had reached out to him and gave him their products to sell, he wouldn't make those comments.

[@jaysaudiolab]

Thank you

[@earlebeckford1]

I love my Mcintosh gear. Fell in love with the brand when I first heard it paired with some B&W 800 speakers several years ago and two weeks later bought their amp and ht processor. I’ve seen them paired with some extremely highend speakers and consider them as high end audiophile gear. Some of the so called audiophile gear that cost six figures are priced that way because the manufacturer can’t produce enough units to increase profit margins due to being a small companies, so they sell the few units at extremely high msrp to leverage again low production. They only need to sell a small number to keep the doors open.

[@dippin1523]

I have had an MC275 for many years and feel no need to change. I doubt I will part with it. It always satisfies my musical needs. Are there better, probably, but I like the way this amplifier presents the music. Its truly a music lovers amp.

[@jeanmarcbories9718]

McIntosh is like Rolex. It is iconic and it gives you a certain level of performance at a certain level of price. But just like Rolex as many watch collectors know, McIntosh is only the beginning for some or cult following for others. To each his own. Thank you Jay for your open mind and the hard work. Nice to see that your following keeps growing!

[@drhands4679]

Agree. Beyond this point, it becomes F1: 1 million dollars for 1/1000 of a second

[@revo1336]

Like watches- people pay for aesthetics over performance sometimes.

[@jeanmarcbories9718]

@@drhands4679 Actually 1/100 ;-). I was in a Team at some point.

[@jeanmarcbories9718]

@@revo1336 True

[@202One]

Not the best but both of those brands keep their value for whatever reason.. ✌

[@od40k77]

Here’s the thing. When you get into the price range of McIntosh equipment, people buy what they like, for whatever reason they choose. Some people are brand loyal, some people buy based on build quality. Some people want made in the USA. At the end of the day, there is no wrong reason. Doesn’t matter if McIntosh is not the best sounding equipment. They are made in the USA, they are iconic, they do have an extremely good build quality, and they do represent a pride of ownership. They are not for everyone, but neither is a 911 Turbo S. Neither is a Bugatti. Neither is an Aston Martin, and so on.

[@jaysaudiolab]

You're right

[@od40k77]

@@drewyoung2102 great point.

[@jiyadas]

First time Mcintosh buyer and I have had 15 plus amps in the last 20 years I went with the Mcintosh mc1.25kw and it's the best I have had in my system till now. Both Sonus faber and Mcintosh have changed their voicing for the current times neither of them have rolled off top end or are warm. Both companies have evolved and their newer stuff is absolutely brilliant! The mc1.25kw are so dynamic, clean and smooth at the same time, I am done looking for another amp. I have them paired with a mcintosh c1100 and after having 3 Devialets expert pro's over the years these are equally quite, no noise, hiss etc. whatsoever.

[@Puroplatino]

I have C1100’s and MC1.25kw’s and I’d love for Jay to give them a listen rather than everyone go by their reputation or legacy. The newer stuff is top notch in my opinion. Amps and Pre-Amps anyway. For digital and other stuff not that great but I only use Mac Max Amps and Pre-amps then LampizatOr and Allnic.

[@rvxonyx3531]

Did you like the devialet experts? How do they compare to the mcintosh?

[@jiyadas]

@@rvxonyx3531 I like the Devialet for a certain type of pin point accuracy but it cannot compare to the huge depth, scale, unlimited power and bass of the mc1.25kw and I can listen to them the whole day they are so smooth! With the McIntosh I have found the music!

[@rvxonyx3531]

@@jiyadas thank you very much, that helps a lot!

[@omgwtfpwnd]

Hiss is normal on some CDs. You can’t undo that, dude .. lol .. it’s in the recording ..

[@jackhuang1434]

I love Macintosh products, I journey started with this brand. Upon till now, I still own my old Macintosh. Thanks Jay for the honest truth.

[@diluxe]

I purchased my McIntosh 8900 last year and love it , sure I might have got sound better for the price but I know I paid extra for the blue dials and the name and I think most McIntosh owners know that when they buy

[@kwd-kwd]

I do like the look, but I really like the sound and would be willing to buy and ugly piece if liked the sound of it.

[@jamesnelson8549]

I love my McIntosh MC-312 Amp & C2700 Preamp! From the day I fired it up the sound was beyond everything else I have owned for the last 45 years!!!! Does it look great yes absolutely & no other manufacturer goes puts as much into the beauty & build quality!!! Is it expensive? Yes, but they build in house, all the machining, metal fabrication, glass, silk screening, transformers etc!! That is an expensive process & the prices are justified

[@mortlach186]

And here I thought that you were all about the muscles. Joking aside, that was about the best response, opinion, take on McIntosh. I never thought of them leading the charge to better audio, or at least opening the doors to other companies, the world of fine audio. What a great perspective you have. How refreshing that was. Kudos!

[@jlo8775]

Legit 👍 you touched upon a pet peeve of mine…the weekly “THE BEST” videos that all the wannabe hi-fi KZbin reviewers are constantly cranking out. It’s ridiculous useless content. What you and OCD are bringing to the table is the real deal. Great stuff brother.

[@swinde]

Obviously every component brand cannot all be "the best"", Many reviewers simply say the equipment excels in various performance factors. Also, it is a waste of time to review products that are "bad". That is why negative reviews are rare.

[@A2AStudios]

Thank you Jay, you are only judging the products, not the users. Great video.

[@charlier7711]

Jay great video. I replaced my BAT VK3 preamp and Conrad Johnson Classic 60 with a MA-5200 and I haven't been happier. And to each his own right, there is no perfect system for everyone.

[@ulfstensland2540]

I will say, it is great to see at least two guys, like OCD Mike and Jay amongst few others, that seems to be more honest about HIFI. It is like Jay is saying, pretty much any reviewer is giving a great review without doing exact comparison to competing products. And like Jay is saying, you are the one by yourself that decides what's for you. I for instance I have a complete McIntosh rig although with a Rega P10 turntable, but and it is all great to look at and it is very musical, and the sound is warm and fat, and a I love that. I am having the time of my life! Still I will watch the guys for their straight opinions and take notice. So keep it up Jay, and also Mike :)

[@spacejaime]

Your music room just looks better than ever. The visual aspect - parallel to the musical one - has gone up to a delightful high.

[@jaysaudiolab]

Thanks

[@mechdude1]

FANTASTIC video Jay....love your HONESTY and HUMILITY 😊👍

[@bhob666]

I think the fact that it's McIntosh is sort of not the point, it's the generalizations. I didn't comment on OCD's channel and I don't own McIntosh gear but I would be a little pissed if I did. I think people buy audio gear for all kinds of reasons, but to level a blanket statement like that was unfair in my opinion. I'm sure some people buy it for the looks, but some people like the sound, and others may like it partly because they grew up listening to McIntosh. I'm sure some people buy Focal speakers because they look cool, and are a statement too. I also think the audio world is very subjective and it's almost impossible that something is going to be "the best" for everyone.

[@jamiecoburn1231]

Mac has a musical kiss that I crave. The newest stuff seems to be moving away from that, but maybe that is just the way things are going and I am a dying breed? To me Mac has always been about my emotional connection with my music selections. Warmth sweetness, toe tapping sound...Elements that pure audiophiles are understandably much less excited about. Heck I have friends that have no idea what I like about Mac...Fair enough! They prefer equipment that better caters to a pure audiophiles wants and needs. Indeed I appreciate their systems as well! Seriously! Not at all different to individual preferences in single malt Scotch....I like peaty flavors and you may despise those or may prefer a good Cognac. Its all good from where I sit! I will say that some audiophiles get their shit wound way too tight sometimes....Just remember this is supposed to be fun and enjoyable!

[@kwd-kwd]

cou;d you elaborate on what you mean by " the newest stuff seems to be moving away from" I have had vintage Mc and now have the newer stuf and the newer stuff is quieter and sounds leaps and bounds better than the older stuff does.

[@danieljones8587]

I've had my 501s pushing my Infinity Gama's for about 20-years now and the sound is beautiful, I could have bought Halcro's at the time for about four times the money but settled for the most bang for the buck. And I have worked the dog out of these amps and have never had a problem. And it helped to add some Acoustic Zen cables.

[@Mark-lq3sb]

Hello, One of your best videos Jay. Thanks for being honest.

[@richardbartch9514]

Fell in love with MC equipment back in the early 60s....and maybe it's just me but it doesn't sound the same today. I eventually settled on a Decware zma amp.

[@johnrus7661]

Excellent video, just because of this video you earned my subscription. It's an extremely mature and knowledgeable response. I have seen far to many channels try to grow just by bashing others and I hate that. Hope you are successful in your journey in this hobby of Hifi audio!

[@robertmitchell6015]

Hi Jay love your videos, those silver discs on top of your amps are they resonators? If so what brand are they and can you do a video on the benefits of them and how they work, cheers from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺

[@henni1964]

As a tube guy, i would trust McIntosh sounding great with all of their tube stuff any day, because it is so well built 😀

[@sux2bu883]

Well said. Honesty is always the most important, thanks Jay !

[@breakoutpete210]

McIntosh is the Harley-Davidson of audio products 🎼🔊🇨🇦✌️😎

[@NateEll]

Exactly correct

[@GlaciaDay]

That's the best explanation I've ever heard!

[@breakoutpete210]

@@GlaciaDay …thanks 🍻

[@Bhakti-rider]

Perfect analogy.

[@JayRCela]

when it comes down to it / it depends on your ability to match the right components to your customers needs and expectations / thanks for the video Jay

[@peterc3143]

Jay seems like a very knowledgeable type of guy. Great to listen to. 👍

[@jaysaudiolab]

Thanks Peter

[@ramsaybolton9099]

Jay, I said it before, you are a gentleman par excellence! Most people listen to music with their ears only. This will get them to the outer portals of musical heaven. When listening intently for a while and you’re totally relaxed, and the soundstage and the physical illusions disappear, all that’s left is you and the music. The music then seem to envelop the room from every direction, envelop you and seep into every pore and then seem to emanate from without and within and transport to to that magical heaven. Or you fall asleep while listening, and that one song awakens you, and you dare not move because you do not want to loose that mystical eclectic feeling. Your being is at one, part of the music. You sense that you have died and gone to that magical musical heaven. Then the phone rings, your wife calls proclaiming that it’s 3am and you have to go to work. Dam, that feeling is over. Bitches Brew. Adele said” I don’t make music for the eyes, I make it for the ears”. McIntosh make music for the eyes, ears and soul. My Macs get me to that unearthly mystical state. I feel like I’m high on my own musical supply. That’s why I love Macs.

[@r.guardia9107]

Lmao! This guy is one of the biggest clowns on KZbin. How many times can you find your “dream speaker” It’s like every other week? 😂 He made a big production about buying the Wilson’s at $350,000 and now it’s on to something else? I guess the first payment on his home equity line came due? Well, I doubt it. The guy lives in a dump of a house. Unfortunately, his audio equipment cost more than his home. Which, is not only irresponsible, but just plain stupid.

[@arnoldschloss9634]

Jay, excellent presentation on this topic - I think the key issue you stated here is that McIntosh builds a pretty good product to a price point that has been generating exceptional sales results for them. Without a doubt, there are superior products out there, but at what price? Simply said, a customer may drool over a $40,000 Gryphon amp that he deems much superior to a $12,000 McIntosh amp, that he can afford - if he has the resources, he'll buy the Gryphon; so it really doesn't matter if the product is superior - if the product is beyond the affordability for the customer, he can't acquire it. Perhaps a more effective video would be to identify the ten best amplifiers available, in your opinion (irrespective of brand), for audiophile customers with unrestricted financial resources.

[@coletrick8748]

For me McIntosh and Parasound are top shelf. Besides the plastic knobs and buttons on MC they look great and sound even better.

[@tictocdoc6958]

Thank you for the video. You talked at length about the brand. What are your thoughts on sound signature vs more audiophile type brands

[@tarichar8]

McIntosh is considered high end in other countries, at the same level as Gryphon, CH Precision, etc. if you look at audiophiles in Europe and Asia, McIntosh is used with Rockports and other > 100k speakers, and is the equal or better than 20-30k amps and preamps. The better McIntosh pieces are excellent and have a degree of musicality that many brands miss, and they are priced accordingly. I have been in high end audio for 30 years and have owned everything from Krell and Classe, to VTL and Cary. Currently using Shindo. McIntosh is definitely high end.

[@stifoli]

Amen Jay, that’s why I love your channel!

[@jaysaudiolab]

Thanks man

[@LongStep]

Hello Jay, the one thing that I wished you touched on is the balance manufacturers have between the absolute best components and the components that meet a market niche. Manufacturers have been doing this forever in audio, but it seems so prevalent today. You can change out 2 caps for high end-caps and noticeably improve sound on many mid and even some high end gear. Or you can upgrade more inside a unit. Manufacturers build to a price point. McIntosh is really solid gear, like you said, mid-high, but after tweaking the internals you can end up with some really great stuff. I'm not saying you have to, it's just easily possible and an option less expensive then buying new gear for most folks.

[@frankmchugh9436]

At Florida exp 2020 the Mcintosh ma352 driving Martain logan speakers was the best sounding system at the expo. So if a guy trashes an amp that he doesn't sell, take it with a grain of salt.

[@richsherman3673]

I fully agree Jay. The Audio Hobby is subjective, and jst like Art and Attractionm, beauty in Audio is in the ears of the beholder. Your clarity and honest factual delivery of facts, is so enjoyable. Thanks you.

[@Winterfell1066]

My reference system is a VPI Prime TT, MacIntosh 7200 receiver in preamp mode, pair of 1963 MC-30s for amplification, and various other digital sources running through Klipschorns (1985 with upgraded drivers and crossovers from Bob Crites), and a pair of fast REL subs. I have the right room corners for the K-horns and this setup is magical. However, I also have an old Pioneer TT, MacIntosh MX 130 in 2channel mode through a Schitt Vidar amp and a great set of JBL L-100s. The MX 130 which was an earlier home theater preamp.... sounds fantastic as well. Love vintage gear. Love MacIntosh and Klipsch.

[@jaysaudiolab]

Cool

[@perfectsoundpursuit007]

This neutrality it's the best way for review ( and in life ) . My system it's not the best .. Some guys believing what he own is the best in world .. Not exist the best system , or perfect system , because positions of speakers , room , influences the sound a lot ( not mention cables ... it's a lot of thins can make huge difference in audio systems ) . Very good Jay ! BR

[@baycchief3785]

I have tried so many brands and got so tired of trying for the next best sounding and always had to go back to Mcintosh especially in the amp department.

[@antonklimov7135]

I love Macs because of their unique tasty rich sound which no other brand has. Not because I want to look like an audiophile or show off. I had plenty of other gear and ALWAYS came back to McIntosh, despite their insane pricing.

[@AndyBHome]

Great point. Also, who WANTS to look like an audiophile? There's essentially nothing cool about looking like an audiophile!

[@borisbobowski628]

Its all about Taste...i never Liked Mcintosh Sound thats maybe my Luck...

[@chasl3645]

The moron in the beginning of the video wouldn't recognize a benchmark if it hit him between the eyes.

[@georgemartinezza]

there are different factors and reasons why you listen as the best choice McIntosh, and there are different reasons and factors that could show how different is the same device here, there, worse or better.

[@tpc3416]

By audiofools view, McIntosh is very reasonably priced and holds their value better than any piece of gear on the market.

[@jowblow2171]

Mcintosh is a great Iconic American founded company just like Harley Davidson, They are beautiful, have a huge following but not the best out there. I owned an Mc2300 in the past and wish I had kept it, I would have had it hot roded. I appreciate you telling it like it is with no bull crap. Your comment section is filled with many knowledgeable Audiophiles, great read.

[@alldhat-n-den-sum4190]

Exactly exactly EXACTLY!!!! I have nothing more to add to what you said Jay...!!!

[@johnmastroleo995]

Jay I would like to see another direct comparison between your reference amps and the Pass Labs XS monoblock amps.You should use your DAC and run it directly into the amps.

[@rachmaninov0]

I listen to mostly rock and heavy metal, live and studio cuts. I will say that till this day, I have not heard anything that can top the Mcintosh 2KW amps paired with the original XRT2K speakers. My friend has a very large room and we can sit over 20 feet away with decibel levels well over 100 of pure sounding distortion free live house sound with killer slam (probably due to 6 12" drivers per side). This is truly amazing for a full range speaker and two amps with no extra amps or sub woofers. For instance, I have never heard Led Zeppelin 2 sound this way. John Bonhams drum set sounded like it was in the room. Source for this was the Classic Records 45 version played on a Micro Seiki SX8000 using the C1000 Preamp and MP1100 phono preamp. As Jay mentioned though, this is my taste and my opinion and obviously what I like. On another note, OCD Mike should take acting classes and fill in for Penn Epner. They look like brothers! He mentioned looking like an Audiophile. Maybe he should take more pride in the way he looks and his presentation? I am sorry, presentation is very important to me especially when someone is giving me advice on gear that costs thousands. I just don't take him serious, never did never will.

[@GyllesS]

Thank you Jay for your comment, it's all fair because this debate can also be held concerning the different technologies, I'm thinking for example of high efficiency loudspeakers and low efficiency .... It's all a matter of taste and money ...

[@toddclarke1580]

Hi Jay , I like what you are doing. As a Audio Lover, I sold my Mac Gear. we all claim to know audio and what sounds good but I have found most owners of the Mac systems I have heard did not have nice balanced sound settings. I mentioned to them It’s not wrong or bad to try a -4 treble setting, and flat Bass setting , to get a nice balance powerful sound, …All the Mac owners I have encountered have boosted tone settings with bright speakers and they don’t sound natural. It’s about the operator. I think they should understand the frequencies that are controlled by the settings in the entire system, and what frequencies the instruments live in, then adjust to compensate. I think it’s important and it’s why money can’t buy great sound. Knowledge is most important in a great sounding system no matter the cost.

[@1999zrx1100]

Sold my McIntosh gear as well, firmware issues were driving me crazy, drag an 80 lb. Amp to the dealer for a $300 update that might or might not solve all the issues I was having wasn’t going to happen. Fun while it lasted. 😎

[@theway3058]

I agree with all your points here but pls let me add a spin on this. Having spent 15 years making rock records with in my studios. There were many top producers who would come through my studios. A lot of these guys loved this brand. I would never say these producers could not tell the difference in gear. They just loved this brand. In fact in one of my mix rooms in front of the console the mains which are the largest monitors in the room we ran Big Mac mono blocks. Another control room I was running big Cord amps. Sometimes we would do listen back session on my Magico speakers and believe me these guys had good ears. They just loved Mac gear.

[@freeradical431]

The new rig looks sick!

[@Paul-dn7cb]

Jay..Thank You👍🏻

[@peterprimes497]

Mac7200 is 8k Yamaha a-s3200 is 7,900 Which would most people pick?

[@robertb5640]

I agree with you Jay, if they wanted to make $200,000 dollar mono blocks they would have done it. I can see you trying the mc3500 or the mc901 one day. I'd watch the shit out of that video!

[@jaysaudiolab]

There is that possibility

[@bahamabrz]

The only McIntosh product I have owned was a "new" McIntosh 1700 receiver back in the 1980's. It sounded good, but the glass fogged up after only a few months and never recovered. It was lightly used, but after a few short years the left channel completely failed. Needless to say, I haven't been a McIntosh fan since.

[@carmenandthedevil2804]

Why not?

[@divadgnol67]

That being said, your stuff is badass!!

[@ranganyoga1754]

Hey Jay, I’m a huge fan of yours from Toronto ! I wanted to know how you decided when to stop upgrading .. like to be Honest, I feel like it’s a never ending loop of electronics and speakers ! While a lot people tell you when to start ! No one tells you when to stop ! Can you please make a video on that ? Thanks, Your sincere fan from Toronto, Canada Rangan

[@jaysaudiolab]

Thank you. I'll make a note of this topic

[@Yeybeth]

Amazing!!! You have to have a channel also for THE WAR OR PHONES 📞 BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE FIGHT WITH APPLE AND SAMSUNG AND ANDROID (and Chinese phones also ) , great video . I have a DENON amp but if I can afore for other brand than is more expensive I will change it but for now IM HAPPY THAT I HAVE 👍

[@dragonkabodan]

Macintosh is an audiophile quality in some of their models and I believe they are the best value for the money in hi fi world. I have to add they are the most reliable long life products in this market.

[@scottchegg1209]

A belief ?

[@kurthill7030]

Have said this all along that's why everyone has a different setup and reference setups there not all the same I have been into hi fi a long time and have lots of friends and we all have different setups to are own taste I have never rubbished any setup because it's all about what we like as individuals that's what makes this hobby fun and great I can listen to a album on my setup and hear a different sound at one of my friends and that's great well done jay 👍👍

[@quadspeak]

You know back in the 70s/80s I would call Mac up and they would put me in touch with a guy named Mike Spencer I would ask him ,Mike what’s the best sounding amplifier you guys make? his answer was always the same whatever power rating you need is the best amplifier. he made it clear that they didn’t really listen to what they made without saying it. they just designed it according to specifications a company can only make great sounding gear if they can hear. Bill Johnson, Arnie Nudell , Harvey Rosenberg we’re examples of designers that could hear

[@joekhachoyan4534]

with all due respect - Mcintosh is high-fi and they do have different equipment for different speakers ; it is the Rolls Royce of Amps

[@snoop65441]

Thank you for keeping it real Jay, I appreciate you

[@jaysaudiolab]

Thank you man

[@Breakinlife007]

I love those Gryphon audio amps behind you!!

[@scottchegg1209]

I've been into HiFi for 50 years. Worked in it for over 30, Bad reviews used to happen. In the UK, a well known magazine editor told me the product review outcome would be heavily influenced by advertising commitment.

[@georgemartinezza]

"the product review outcome would be heavily influenced by advertising commitment" I know it, I have 30 years in graphic arts and it includes marketing and advertising, people got to believe "this is the best" being a portable Nikon or a Pro Canon

[@tpc3416]

You would have to read between the lines with Stereo Review, and that's even true with Audioholics. Ads put food on the table. Imagine if Car and Driver negatively reviewed Weather Tech floor mats that keep them alive.

[@spartak9101]

McIntosh is great gear for doctors and lawyers. Always been this way since the 70”s. 😂

[@chesrider2373]

I'm late responding to your enlighted response to OCD Mike. Based on your input I pulled the trigger on my first McIntosh: the new MC830 monoblock amps.

[@rvickner]

Was that the same video where he said Focal and Wilson speakers don't sound good? LOL that guy..

[@mikedenallo6997]

Jay- would love to see you spend some time with the upcoming atmasphere class d offering, i believe they’ll be at the Florida audio expo, maybe they’ll have the new class d amps in display?

[@jaysaudiolab]

We shall see

[@deanfisher1656]

Had two 2102 Amps bi-amped with Hovland 100 preamp in early 2000s……they wear incredible. Heard the Thor TPA amps and 1000 mkII pre-amps and sold the Mac stuff. Kept the Thors 17 years ….they were that good. Issue is …..when I sold them I got 4k and had to find a unique buyer. If I had the Macs. They would sell for 4k apiece. Love the value add with Macs and sound is honest value.

[@kenkeil6144]

I have a Mac amp and Klipsch let the hating begin while I enjoy another day of musical bliss

[@ScottsLifeOffGrid]

I don't know how I missed this video but I have to say it is my favorite so far.

[@arnoldschloss9634]

Excellent review Jay! However, one very important point that very few, if any reviewers mention, is the consideration of the Legacy of the manufacturer you are purchasing from, before investing a "Significant Sum" of money into their amp, regardless of make or model. Meaning - 1) Will the manufacturer still be around 10, 20, 30 years from now? 2) If needed, will there be parts and service available to repair the unit, decades from now? While not at all promoting McIntosh, as a statement of fact, McIntosh is still providing parts and service for products built by them a half century ago. In addition to sound and build quality, I would think this should be a major consideration factor by a prudent buyer of a piece of very expensive/high-end equipment, irrespective of make or model. What is your opinion on this point?

[@stephencosta6814]

👏🏻🙌👍Congratulations Jay beautiful topic you are a gentleman very honest man I’m 53 years old I’ve had about 20 amplifiers in my lifetime ranging from $100 up to 5000 I have a McIntosh MA 252 I would say this is the best one I have ever had it’s just not about the blue lights in meters it really does sound totally awesome to me❤️

[@jaysaudiolab]

That's all that matters

[@stevencoffeen6684]

I have been a Mac guy for 54 years and the earliest amp from that date is still being used in my system and I love it. My most recent Mac product is 38 years old and all are working reliably. I had a problem with my tuner that I sent to Mac in New York, and, unfortunately, they lost it! After a month of hunting they found it and apologized profusely. They repaired it and then some bringing it up to date, it was 20 years old at the time, but they were still making the same model. When I got it back I was uncertain that it was the same unit that I had sent them, but I checked the serial number and it was. Bottom line, they charged me nothing because of my inconvenience! Perhaps another brand might sound a smidgeon better, in someones thinking, and that is OK, but how many companies will do what Mac does to maintain their overall brand loyalty?

[@marcbegine]

Love the ISO-Acoustics Gaia on the Focal Loudspeakers!

[@cm071678]

Jay you are the Man

[@revelationsoundstudio]

I don't care what people think about what i purchase. I purchase what I like. Personally the older McIntosh had too much color for me. The newer ones are a little cleaner while still having that gentle color that can take away harshness, reduce cymbal crash fatigue, etc and just provide a better sound. I love my MC152 and it and the Parasound JC5 which came in 2nd place are both great company's/

[@mikewinburn]

For real… not sure i care at all what anyone says about equipment i have (or don’t have). I bought all my equipment, paid for it all with my own hard earned dollars, and i still sit down for usually an hour per day enjoying a musical presentation in my listening space. That i can do this, i am fortunate. What i am NOT fortunate enough to do is buy and sell gear every couple years and experiment with many different brands. That’s why i visit this channel to at least hear brands i would never hear otherwise. :) In the end, though, putting on a side of “The Count and Dizz” for an hour in my listening space is a privilege and pleasure. Who can know this except for me? Today, i am content with what i have.

[@brankocernik8384]

Bravo !!! It sounds like you and i live in the same world.

[@mikewinburn]

@@brankocernik8384 - keep on enjoying my friend.

[@josefbuckland]

We all believe our own opinions it’s what makes us happy and I’m Sticking with that

[@jaysaudiolab]

Agreed

[@TexasCorgiGun]

Well said sir

[@flageborg]

Nice video, but you should try 32-bit float mic recording to get better sound quality... ;)

[@davidstein9129]

Thanks for the video Jay.

[@chrisharris4305]

Well said Jay !

[@breathtimebreath4934]

Thank you 🙏

[@jeffandich3894]

Is it just me or do some of the newer McIntosh products (e.g. MC611, MC901) seem to be converging on what audiophiles consider high end? For instance, If I listen to some dealer videos on KZbin A/B comparing MC611’s driving A5’s vs the same setup and song, but with Gryphon Diablo 300 and Gryphon Essence, yeah the Essence does a better job of letting you hear the individual building blocks, but the MC611 sounds pretty impressive. Haven’t heard any of these setups in person, but definitely plan to audition the MC611, along with the Diablo 300, and the 866. Don’t personally like the MA12000, but the MC611 maybe interesting…

[@jeffandich3894]

One question as an amateur: if you place a McIntosh amp in an “optimum rig configuration” for that amp, can it perform as a HiFi amp or always as a MidFi amp? For instance, I’ve heard a number of folks say that McIntosh pairs well with Sonus Faber. The other day I heard a KZbin video where a McIntosh dealer indicated that he liked the MC611 paired with a D’Agostino preamp better than when paired with a McIntish preamp and even better than that D’Agostino preamp paired with the D’Agostino amp. This KZbin channel is about experimenting with rig components to find the optimal match. Question is, if you work at it, can you make a system with McIntosh components sound as HiFi as Gryphon components?

[@louisperlman8030]

Why can’t audiophiles just live and let live (that’s aimed at Mikey)? It’s equally not a crime for a company not to bother making hyper expensive equipment that will sell a handful of units a year. I auditioned my current speakers with McIntosh gear. One listen was with the MA5300 integrated amp. The entry level model. It was a very sweet sounding unit. I had higher aspirations, but it’s a great choice for someone who isn’t perpetually upgrading or for someone who is downsizing.

[@angst1949]

What a waste of time.

[@johnkru1295]

Why?

[@j.m.harris4202]

Macintosh Model#2301 Jay you said "Delicious and Musical" on your Bottom Tier Presentation! Does that Statement still hold! Beautiful Green Glow is Mood setting!

[@John-Edward]

McIntosh used to be what you and Mikey are talking about, but they have upped there game in the last 5 years to be a true “HIGH END” brand!

[@kendavis3604]

Jay… good clarification about what your content is about. Let’s get back to reviewing and comparing components, and getting your humble opinion.

[@addictedtohifi2559]

What are those power amplifiers behind you? Thanks

[@justogarcia175]

Definitely Gryphon monoblock amplifiers but not absolutely certain as to what model(s).

[@stephenfleschler9682]

Great Video!

[@tg_ny]

I am not a McIntosh customer, but I have a lot of respect for the brand. It has consistently remained in the industry for my entire life. Americans have adopted an attitude with everthing - they either love it or bash it. I have heard McIntosh hardware in systems which just sound OK and others where it sounds spectacular. As with any brand amp and speaker, the pairing is very important. A user’s sonic preferences are important as well. Speakers vary in design - their impedance, phase, sensitivity, etc., and amps vary with their damping factor, power output, class, circuit design, etc. These factors will all affect how a system sounds. The key is to determine your budget and listen to as many systems as you can before selecting the combination of components which sound best to you. What sounds great to your ears will likely differ from the preferences of the next person’s. What is so enjoyable is that we as consumers have so many choices. You will have succeeded in putting a system together if it can play music and generate the emotional experience that you desire.

[@kenmcglown6642]

I've never owned McIntosh gear, but I've heard them many, many times over the years, and in a variety of systems, and they always seem to manage to sound (IMHO) pretty darned OUTSTANDING!!! If you prefer a different brand other than McIntosh, well.....that's fine and dandy. That's your prerogative. But, if you're so twisted in your thinking that you actually believe that McIntosh gear is not High End, then you're probably smoking some kind of mind altering substance, just like our dear friend "Mikey" probably is ("LOL").

[@jaysaudiolab]

:)

[@lordabhikingfisher8087]

i was auditioning McIntosh and it was a 4K + Integrated amp. I was shocked to hear slight hiss from tweeter. The dealer told me to 'not to hear' the hiss, I had to step up to 7K+ integrated amp. I am not stupid. I clicked few btn in Amazona and got me a Yamaha A-S3000SL for 4K. No hiss. Only Music.

[@carlsitler9071]

As with most products, I would assume "You get what you pay for" but with diminishing returns. For example, the $70 Aiyima A07 is a better value than a $450 BasX A2 but doesn't sound as good. But does the Emotiva sound 6.5 times better? No. Does a $5000 Macintosh sound better than a BasX? Yes. 12 times better? No.

[@allenward758]

I totally agree with you. Many years ago when I was introduced to true hifi by a successful hifi speaker system owner his oppinion was it's a good brand, a little over priced, and there are some better brands. I used his personal gear for testing. Back then I used Boulder 500 amps and a VTL pre amp. Today, I use an Audio Research Pre and Pass Labs 600 wat Mono blocks. I would not trade those pieces with Mac.