It's very clear that Lando overtook off the track, therefore he got a 5sec penalty. What I don't understand is why the rules don't consider that the only reason Max was ahead was because he let off the brakes with no intention of making the corner. Surely that deserves a penalty too yet it appears that's not the rule, very odd.
@finnfisuСағат бұрын
Of course he intended to make the corner. He only went a few feet wide. I agree though, that when you defend and don't stay on the track that should be illegal. Sand traps would fix the issue
@damedusa5107Сағат бұрын
It’s basically max being very clever with the wording of the rules, what he did imo is against the spirit of the rule but not the actual words. It needs changing as max does this every time he is challenged. Did the same to LH
@edR_mcdСағат бұрын
Or FIA punishes everyone, or punishes no one. They have one choice. I prefer them to let the drivers race.
@claytonbruner1808Сағат бұрын
@@finnfisu He had no intention of making the corner. You have to consider that Verstappen was in a win, win situation. If he missed his apex and Norris didn't respond accordingly they crash and there's no change in the championship standings. I think the fact that Verstappen only missed the apex of a corner once in the whole race should be considered and called what it is....unsafe blocking, and penalized accordingly.
@Hooderaw19 минут бұрын
I agree but this is on the FIA and the teams for not addressing this type of defending when he did it in the past. Personally, I don't blame him for continuing to do it if he's not getting penalized. He purposely went wide to keep him from passing on the outside without getting a penalty knowing at the most, he would only get a track limit warning.
@AnotherJoe3 сағат бұрын
You can twist and turn this all you want but it does not change the outcome as it stands. They either change the rules or they don't. Putting lanes of gravel is an elegant solution, especially on tracks on which also hosts motor racing. In the latter case, they would simply remove the gravel lanes. Thinking about it, having gravel lanes with a run-off area does not ruin a race like it did for Lewis in Austin but merely punish the driver with a couple (or a lot) of positions. Then, they would still have a chance to fix their mistake. I'd say, on all circuits with large run off areas, add the gravel lanes and on circuits with large gravel banks, change it to gravel lanes and convert the remaining space behind it to a run off area.
@userb3nje909Сағат бұрын
Adding gravel to corner edges is not the solution. Either is curbs or speed bumps or walls. Race tracks are used by other classes and not just F1.. adding gravel would probably result in numerous motorcycle fatalitys next time there is a trqck day.
@greenlantern7959Сағат бұрын
This makes far too much sense for it to actually happen
@damedusa5107Сағат бұрын
Not really a solution tho, that stops the overtake, but does not stop a driver deliberately pushing a car off the track, that’s the big issue
@AvocadoAfficionado34 минут бұрын
Lol, it's not about the result we all know the FIA will rule no new information (as they always do). This is about showing Max Verstappen has never and will never win a championship without controversy, twisting the rules or straight external assistance. If you can't touch them now, go for their reputation. He'll be a forgotten champ faster than you can say Jacques Villeneuve.
@paperplane-db8qf9 минут бұрын
Why should circuits have to spend more money just because F1 doesn’t care about improving their stewards? Make MotoGP more dangerous for a stupid reason like F1 can’t police themselves?
@Redlingstein2 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂 stewards have all data and all cameras. Zak Brown is simply STILL TRYING TO DEFLECT ATTENTION FROM THE FACT THAT FIA HAS ORDERED THEM TO CHANGE ALL THEIR REAR WINGS cos of the DRS FLEXI WING.. Incl the Austin wing. FIA has declared them all illegal. And Zak is despirately trying to deflect attention. Zak should be glad Lando only got 5sec cos the penalty for OVERTAKING OFF TRACK AND GAINING A LASTING ADVANTAGE is 10sec as of this season! 😂
@TheoriginalMach20005 сағат бұрын
Great, Max get's penalized with a 5 seconds penalty for forcing Lando off the track Lando gets his penalty upped by the 5 seconds to 10 seconds for passing a car off track. And we're done.
@aph15554 сағат бұрын
This is the correct verdict
@MrRvreeker4 сағат бұрын
And an extra 5 seconds for Lando. Exceeding track limits.
@leebex1003 сағат бұрын
Incorrect. A driver should not receive a penalty when they are forced off the track and retaining their position (as evidenced by the leadeboard at the time).
@jrgqСағат бұрын
Also, Lando get extra 5 seconds for track limits, ops, no, this time I cannot apply the rules because it will damage Lando.
@tuna5618Сағат бұрын
Don't forget the 10 second penalty for Ocon.
@snowman22ism4 сағат бұрын
You can't pass off the track... It's a very solid simple rule... If he had given the place back, he likely would have passed Max at some point as his tyres were going... It was another bad call by McClaren and they are just trying to find anyway to correct their own mistake now.. They just aren't run well as a team and it's costing them. It has all season. The argument should be that Max should also get a penalty for forcing him off the track... That holds water.
@SergejGrabunСағат бұрын
Exactly like you start your sentence: You can't pass off the track. The real one should be: You can't force other driver off track. Lando, regardless nose front or back, WAS beside him, he had all the right to corner and Max should have keep enough room for both, instead he brakes well too late, has way too much speed and doesn't make the turn just to keep Lando beside. That is what everyone overlooks in all this debate. ALL F1 drivers are notorious for this, ALL of them squeze opponents out because FIA allows this nonsense. Look at other driving series, drivers leave space to each other.
@paperplane-db8qf5 минут бұрын
Except Lando was already in front so he didn’t pass off track. He maintained his position. Max was the overtaking driver.
@ThisOneAgain2463 сағат бұрын
This will be about Verstappen’s braking - his braking trace shows he initially brakes hard, then reduced his braking then increased his braking again. Had he maintained his initial braking he would have made the corner. The fact he voluntarily released the braking made him not make the corner due to his own actions forcing Norris to go off. This should mean retrospectively Verstappen gets a 5 second penalty for forcing a driver off the track.
@PinkAsAPistol3 сағат бұрын
@@ThisOneAgain246 Do you think they hadn't already looked at that though?
@ThisOneAgain2463 сағат бұрын
@@PinkAsAPistol I’m not if sure that telemetry is immediately available to the stewards in real time.
@nouds12902 сағат бұрын
lol as if Lando was ever going to make the corner, he just decided to leadfoot it off track, telemetry was very clear about that yes.
@RedlingsteinСағат бұрын
The penalty is for Lando cos he overtook off track, which is 10sec. That is still the case no matter what you think of Max. Stewards were lenient and gave only 5sec cos of the situation. Be grateful, otherwise Lando would finish behind Piastri. Even with 10sec for Lando and 5sec for Max, Max would finish ahead of Lando and extend his lead on Lando.
@RedlingsteinСағат бұрын
@@ThisOneAgain246ofc the stewards have ALL TELEMETRY 😂 HOW DO YOU THINK the can even make any decision without it during the race 😂😂😂😂😂
@hautmedoc73824 сағат бұрын
There was a time when crashing into another car risked death or serious injury. Today's driver know they can risk a crash and walk away.
@finnfisuСағат бұрын
George is 100% right. Gravel traps everywhere and this nonsense stops
@PinkAsAPistol6 сағат бұрын
6:25 I don't get why everybody thinks that the rules would need to be changed for the stewards to have judged that Verstappen only stayed ahead at the apex by not breaking, not being able to stay on track and thus he also forced Norris off. It's already in the rules that a driver has to be in control. Verstappen isn't exploiting a gap in the rules as much as the stewards' inconsistency.
@scottb98685 сағат бұрын
Not making track limits gets a warning before penalty. Max didn’t have any track limit warnings so it would have only been a warning.
@PinkAsAPistol5 сағат бұрын
@@scottb9868Forcing somebody off track to avoid a collision during an overtake attempt is not the same as simply failing to follow track limits while driving on your own
@scottb98685 сағат бұрын
@@PinkAsAPistol he wasn’t forced off because he wasn’t ahead at the apex, at that point it was on Lando to give up and he didn’t.
@PinkAsAPistol5 сағат бұрын
He only was ahead at the apex because he decided to let off his brakes and not take the corner in a controlled manner
@scottb98685 сағат бұрын
@@PinkAsAPistol he didn’t even lock the brakes up so not sure where you are getting he’s not in control. Just because he ran wide doesn’t mean he wasn’t in control running wide was intentional to do exactly what it did. Block landos momentum and shut him down or force him to go wide and have to give the spot back.
@TMJ3210 минут бұрын
In this case what they should have done was give Max a 5s penalty and give Lando a 10s penalty. Repeat after me: You. Can. Not. Pass. Off. Track. Lando should have given the position back no matter what that was an illegal pass.
@H0lyFr0ggy2 сағат бұрын
Liam Lawson did the same to Alonso in the sprint race but somehow that was ok.
@W0o0dy5 сағат бұрын
Completely ridiculous to appeal a slam dunk penalty. Overtaking off track is ALWAYS a penalty.
@Kessoku2 сағат бұрын
but pushing someone off?
@MIEJ42 сағат бұрын
Well if the new evidence shows that it shouldn’t have been a penalty, then it’s only fair that they look at it again.
@W0o0dyСағат бұрын
@@MIEJ4 it can't as the whole world could see that Norris overtook Max off track. So no amount of evidence is ever going to get that penalty revoked.
@tuna5618Сағат бұрын
@@Kessoku read the rules instead of asking stupid questions
@paperplane-db8qf4 минут бұрын
Pushing a driver off the track is also a penalty. And driving erratically like Max did not braking into a corner is also a penalty.
@wibblywobbly997 сағат бұрын
There is no drama to the championship so let's create some. How about calling out the driving standards in 21.....hmmmm, silence....gravel won't stop lunging.
@semadragun5 сағат бұрын
Mclaren should have appealed AFTER they should have instructed Lando to give the position back to Max and recaim 3rd. Monumental FU.
@MIEJ42 сағат бұрын
You can’t appeal an in race penalty.
@RedlingsteinСағат бұрын
Their big FU is telling Lando that he was ahead at the apex….which he was not. Otherwise Lando himself would’ve decided to give back the position. Lando ASKED abt it!
@robmessa54026 сағат бұрын
Are Man Buns still a thing?
@f1joeh5 сағат бұрын
He looks like granny from the Beverly Hillbillies. Moreover, it enhances his feminine attributes. 😊
@jamestaylor4475 сағат бұрын
Probably a vegan too
@f1joeh5 сағат бұрын
@@jamestaylor447 Probably a toxic feminist too
@mico1422Сағат бұрын
Probably "non-binary"
@robertbosson522324 минут бұрын
Probably got Lewis posters in his bedroom
@asaiyannamedgokublack10 минут бұрын
I don't know why people aren't talking about Verstappen overtaking Sainz outside the white line
@jacpfc012 сағат бұрын
5:27 that’s Pato is it really that hard ?
@luk3nelson2 сағат бұрын
Not sure why you showed Patricio O'Ward when you were talking about Piastri but its nice he's at the paddock for his home country
@MIEJ42 сағат бұрын
POW is doing FP1.
@alicekoppenol-pitti62575 сағат бұрын
Did they talk to Haas about the right to review. Didn't help them one bit but cost them money. Shouldn't McLaren review their own pitwall for a change.
@benfulford39434 сағат бұрын
Nothing will happen from this. As much as I think the rules desperately need an update to stop people getting away with defending like that but they won't change this now
@zebipbip50 минут бұрын
The most important rule is, there is no preferential treatment for anyone.
@a330flyguy2Сағат бұрын
For all the whiners 🍑🌭 Max: 5 seconds for pushing off the track Lando: 10 seconds for passing off track There I fixed it.
@SpeedSportsMag.6 сағат бұрын
F1 has the onboard views, obviously they’re protecting themselves from the scrutiny.
@RedlingsteinСағат бұрын
FIA you mean…not F1. FIA have all telemetry, all data, all cameras on track, all onboards, all angles. They don’t have to protect themselves, they use it to make the decisions. They compare the situations with prior situations and what penalty was given then. Lando made an overtake off track, that’s a 10sec penalty since this season, on request of the drivers…. The stewards were lenient cos of the situation and only gave him 5sec. He was lucky.
@vikashchandra991730 минут бұрын
@@Redlingsteinall good but then where is Max’s penalty for maintaining position off track when Lando made a legitimate pass in Austria. Even by Max’s standards it was a legitimate move. Face it, if he is defending then whole track is his if he is overtaking. Then he will cry a cars width wasn’t left. That’s where we are with F1 now.
@lazlo25112 сағат бұрын
All these tracks with track limits is part of the reason we are here! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@dylanburston74533 сағат бұрын
If Max gets punished for this, then Lando needs to have penalties for forcing george off and break checking Leclerc in the sprint, and erratic movement and moving under breaking in the main race
@MIEJ42 сағат бұрын
It’s too late for anyone to protest about any other incidents.
@jesuswouldkilhimself2 сағат бұрын
Breaking or braking?
@dylanburston74532 сағат бұрын
@@MIEJ4 Then its too late for Mclaren as well
@RedlingsteinСағат бұрын
Lando will get the full 10sec penalty then and Max 5 which means nothing changes…
@HenkBurg-sn1zc4 сағат бұрын
Mclaren is a kindergarten and Brown Zakk is the kindergarten cop
@a330flyguy23 сағат бұрын
I hate when teams whine. It ruins the sport.
@_Diamond-Dog5 сағат бұрын
What is that guy even yapping about
@adam570753 минут бұрын
Lando was the lead car so could you not argue max was the overtaking car since max was fully behind lando into the breaking zone Max missed the point with his comments. The issue isn't with the white line despite max overtaking sainz off the track in the race too. Its the fact he pushed him off and purposely didn't try to make the corner
@andresilvasophisma5 сағат бұрын
How's pushing your opponent off-track, while you also go off-track, not considered gaining an advantage?
@blamhokje5 сағат бұрын
Anyone may go off track, but you will get a warning. In no instance it's allowed to overtake off track.
@maxray1804 сағат бұрын
Driving repeatedly in a dangerous manner and others to avoid you all the time is punished with DQ or race ban
@Seajay20164 сағат бұрын
@@blamhokjeit should be applied to the situation not a separate violation.
@micahkiyimba86414 сағат бұрын
He didn't keep the place or gain time. What advantage did he gain exactly? Lando passed him anyway, albeit illegally.
@a330flyguy23 сағат бұрын
Stop whining. You're ruining the sport.
@erik_moenart4 сағат бұрын
This is very reminiscent of Zanardi’s pass on Herta at Laguna Seca.
@harlyslamm28884 сағат бұрын
The funny part is if Max touched Lando's car, he would have been the person receiving the penalty! This is how drivers should race with Max, it is not to give way and let max touch you!
@composedlight68502 сағат бұрын
Agree Noris and others need to get a lot harder with Max ie drive into him and or force him to crash into you.
@ruudkooijman8194 сағат бұрын
I always hate it when teams try to decide the championship pleading to the stuards to give someone a penalty. McLaren has had the fastest car for most of the season. Just drive it better and make better strategy decisions. Don't try to give someone a penalty a week after the race.
@MIEJ42 сағат бұрын
It’s part of the game, if there is something there that would’ve made it a different decision, it is only fair that it gets looked at again.
@ruudkooijman81950 минут бұрын
@MIEJ4 it's also part of the game that so.times the stuards screw you over. Get on with it and make sure you don't get in that position again. If Norris wouldn't have left a gap at the start, he wouldn't have been in this position. He probably would have fought with Leclerc for the win with Max trailing in 4th place. You can say Max is pulling tricks, but he has to defend the WDC with the 3rd fastest car.
@testacorsa1503 минут бұрын
Basically the FIA have to make up rules that define sportmanship, in the hope that installs sportmanship in a driver that doesn't have it. Never gonna happen, I'm afraid.
@Tyler.H.Durden4 сағат бұрын
Was that supposed to be piastri in face paint? Pretty sure it was pato oward. Also, UAP @ 5:21?
@Andrew-vx2ls5 сағат бұрын
All very boring. It is much more interesting just to look at the technical side rather than the sketchy management of race craft. Last week was the second time RB take out or wreck someone's race. (Perez took out Sainz, this alst time Verstappen was divebombing).
@jrgqСағат бұрын
Drivers ask for new rules, Max learn and race using this rules, than the rule becomes absurd and unacceptable. You cannot mention 2021, the rules were different!
@thewonderer8315Сағат бұрын
Shame Norris was not able to back off enough to allow Vestapen to run off all by himself.
@jasper58786 сағат бұрын
From what I understand passing off the track is normally a 10 seconds penalty. Pushing a driver off the track is 5 Seconds. It's just dumb right now. Give Max his 5 and Lando his 10 seconds, and the problem is solved.
@KBowWow756 сағат бұрын
Piastri would be 3rd, Max 4th, and Norris 5th. Do we really want a podium change a week later to become the norm. The deal should be dead as soon as the stewards leave the racetrack.
@PinkAsAPistol5 сағат бұрын
@@KBowWow75The point is that drivers who keep doing this will finally realize that it is not ok. Changing the result post-finish isn't something we like to see, but we also like to see battles going on from corner to corner instead of being killed instantly by somebody who decides not to take a corner and force others off track, so... Besides, if they don't like changing the results, maybe they should try judging correctly in the first place.
@hh-jy1ld5 сағат бұрын
@@PinkAsAPistolit was judged correctly as per the rules which are the problem. They need to amend the rules. And I agree once the podium ceremony is complete the results of the race should be locked.
@maxray1804 сағат бұрын
Verstappen gained an advantage outside the track with Sainz similar to Norris. Sainz was first to the apex and Max kept his position by running very wide. 10 sec penalty. + 5 at the start when he forced Norris wide. Thats 20 second in total including yours.
@PinkAsAPistol4 сағат бұрын
@@hh-jy1ldShould the rules need to be saying that being ahead at the apex is only relevant if you are driving in a controlled manner and able to stay on track? Because they're already saying that. In fact, the stewards effectively admit that Verstappen should have gotten 5 seconds, only they naively turned that into a 5 second penalty for Norris instead of 10 that he would be getting otherwise. So I think it's just poor judgement. Also, your last point wouldn't work. What if they were unable to decide before finish? Just keep the result as is?
@guillermoperezsantosСағат бұрын
Always remember that Pedro Rodriguez kicked H. Marko´s ass in the 70´s
@niconutz89818 минут бұрын
You're talking about the accent on the I after butchering hermanos like that??
@terenceortigoza45057 сағат бұрын
This is like mexico 2016 but its more annoying
@robmessa54026 сағат бұрын
It’s more annoying because of the Man Bun
@terenceortigoza45052 сағат бұрын
@@robmessa5402who's man bun?
@greenlantern7959Сағат бұрын
Like most stewarding controversies, this boils down to (1) lack of consistency and (2) emotions about which driver was seen to be benefited or punished - especially when benefiting Max. It’s both the beauty and curse of sports
@read89simo3 сағат бұрын
I think FIA will give Norris 10sec now instead of 5sec and he will drop behind Piastri.
@veckgamesСағат бұрын
It's ludicrous to me how the defending driver on the inside is allowed to outbrake himself to be ahead at the apex, not make the corner because he's carrying too much speed and push the driver on the outside out of the track and still get to keep the position. This is basically telling drivers to just send it up the inside come what may and they'll never be overtaken around the outside.
@JRok316 сағат бұрын
This is sad when Michael and senna did these things in terms of racing to the limit of the rules it was fun to watch. But now that it is max doing it they can’t stand it. These are the moments that separate the greats from the really good drivers. People really need to stop getting mad at max for doing something that is within the rules still. Until the rules are changed there is no point in complaining. At the end of the day lando had the pace to overtake him and he couldn’t. McLaren failed lando by not telling him to give the position back. Instead of crying about it take a look in the mirror and see what you could’ve done better so that problem doesn’t occur again. McLaren is the team of the boy who cried wolf at this point. Stop blaming others because you couldn’t get the job done
@paulsheridan2915 сағат бұрын
The reason why crashtappen has acquired this nickname?
@leonardomatheus18885 сағат бұрын
Max is a dirty driver just like senna and michael. I can't deny that Max have been entertaining to watch until 2021, but i never really liked the way he attacks/defend. Clean racing is much better than taking advantage of inconsistent rules, that's why Alonso is my favorite driver and Ricciardo divebombs at redbull were so good.
@clintharper55095 сағат бұрын
The issue is the fia keep sucking the Dutch sausage, any other driver gets a penalty for doing what max keeps getting away with, if I'm a driver, I'm telling every other driver from now on that's how we race.
@sharlleclerc5 сағат бұрын
yes crashing into others intentionally is such a peak sportmanship
@DasE30Cuz5 сағат бұрын
I don't care what anyone says, I don't like the "get out of my way or we both crash" approach to open wheel - and broadly open cockpit - racing. It's fine with touring, GT, stock car, pretty much anything else really. But a box ticking exercise that ends with a driver being forced wide trying to avoid potentially race-ending wheel or tire contact, I would argue, is a moment where in fact no racing even actually happened. It's like they all need to get in a big room with the FIA, call it something appropriate like The World Motorsport Council or whatever, and get this sorted over the winter. But that's difficult and the FIA doesn't like difficult.
@nilsthart41544 сағат бұрын
Hahahaha. When a Brit loses an ontrack battle against a non Brit… all of a sudden the rules aren’t correct anymore. 😂😂😂
@read89simo3 сағат бұрын
And especially against Max 😂😂
@corneliusomolo76453 сағат бұрын
And the British Sky journalists will walk around the track all day looking for fellow Britons and asking the same question expecting the same answer. Completely useless. Norris was not ahead at the apex final!!!
@MIEJ42 сағат бұрын
@@corneliusomolo7645but you have to admit, he would have been ahead of Max had intended to get around the corner without going off.
@corneliusomolo76452 сағат бұрын
@@MIEJ4, without Max going off, maybe. However, remember Max had the right to the racing line and not obligated to give way. Norris should have given the place back and overtaken Max in another 2or 3 laps. Then again, it's one thing to be catch Max and another to overtake. I also fail to understand what Norris is fighting for. Max will win the championship.
@paperplane-db8qf16 секунд бұрын
This coming from a Maxipad fanboy who started crying when Lando divebombed him in Austria. Then started crying when Max crashed into Lewis in Hungary 😂
@billythekid-bestservant16 сағат бұрын
Mexico will be a circuit where ferrari will be having a 1-2. Forza ferrari and also Kimi Raikonnen, who is the coolest driver of all time.
@sladehelicoptersgaming31486 сағат бұрын
Honestly I don't get it , it's against the rules to pass a car by leaving the track and gaining a advantage , Max obviously forced Norris off so it's up to the stewards to decide if that means a penalty
@frogandspanner6 сағат бұрын
Verstappen wilfully left the track to prevent Norris passing him on the track, thus gaining an advantage
@PinkAsAPistol5 сағат бұрын
I think that the key point which shows the baffle on their reasoning is where they admit that normally Norris should have been given 10 seconds for overtaking off track, but Verstappen also forced him there so the penalty is reduced to 5 seconds. So instead of also giving Verstappen a penalty, they kind of made it into an offset for Norris' penalty, naively oblivious to the fact that for another time, it sends the message that Verstappen did nothing wrong.
@paperplane-db8qfМинут бұрын
@@PinkAsAPistolwhy should Norris get a 10s penalty when the standard has been a 5s penalty? And Max behind in the braking zone so he was the overtaking car.
@a330flyguy23 сағат бұрын
6:55 Yuki said it best
@perijn77Сағат бұрын
Brits covering for Brits, we've seen it thousands of times before
@Bohonk2124 сағат бұрын
OH FFS! Get back to RACING!
@mkieltyperc3 сағат бұрын
More codders please
@JackWright-e3c4 сағат бұрын
Vercrappen knew exactly what he was doing. It was an intentional act that he deployed as he knew it was the only chance he had to stay ahead.
@slaphands77033 сағат бұрын
If there was a wall there, they both would have had to brake much earlier. Max being on the inside would have come out of the corner ahead 100% of the time.
@blankpage5554 сағат бұрын
what comes out of this video is: salads.
@chriswood98155 сағат бұрын
Beyond a first world problem... Move on... He drove a bit fast in his race car 😂😂
@sanka20005 сағат бұрын
Nothing wrong with the wings of mc 🤪
@carls-957 сағат бұрын
They need to drop this now, it's ridiculous. It's supposed to be a race, get on with it.
@Hungary_09877 сағат бұрын
They should not drop this down, as there are a bunch of consequences in the rules after this incident
@mr-nobody-on-youtube7 сағат бұрын
The outcome isn't of value if there is no confidence it has been conducted in a fair and sporting way.
@Hungary_09877 сағат бұрын
@@mr-nobody-on-youtubeit is of value. The penalty can be liftes and Norris has a chance again
@TheLowman96 сағат бұрын
they shouldnt drop it, they should get it right at any cost
@jasper58786 сағат бұрын
@@Hungary_0987 the penalty for Lando should have been 10 seconds for passing off the track and 5 Seconds for Max pushing a person off the track. Those are the normal penalty times.
@GrizeldaOConnor10 минут бұрын
McKaren Racing !
@TEGSLOT-RACINGСағат бұрын
Lando was ahead then run of the road by a over late breaking Max this blatant Max bias
@clintharper55095 сағат бұрын
The issue is the fia keep sucking the Dutch sausage, any other driver gets a penalty for doing what max keeps getting away with, if I'm a driver, I'm telling every other driver from now on that's how we race.
@jerome86707 сағат бұрын
Max’s braking telemetry he bleeds off the brakes … when he’s so tight to the corner He drove purposely off the track and took Norris with him
@KBowWow756 сағат бұрын
It's allowed by the rules amendment. If the inside car goes off track, the outside car cannot pass off track if the inside car was at the apex first.
@jessicadenisxxx6 сағат бұрын
Nothing to do the apex he missed the braking zone on purpose
@patrickbakema55766 сағат бұрын
Learn the rules.. jeees.. and for the mclaren fans. Stop crying. My god.
@JTeam455 сағат бұрын
Lifting off the brakes to ensure you stay ahead is extremely common. It happens at every race where a heavy braking zone exists, I can assure you of this.
@leebex1003 сағат бұрын
@JTeam45 so why penalise Russell for the same thing?
@johntrella65842 сағат бұрын
Morris didn't get 5 points for moving under braking or 5 points for 4 black and white flags in same race so stop this shit give him 5 points back then give him the 10 points for the other 2 infringements
@zattanna746 сағат бұрын
its funny when it MAX it always the rear camera that they get and never the front facing camera same as Brazil 21 only the rear camera view which does nothing
@KBowWow756 сағат бұрын
Because Max was the lead driver. Everyone's chasing Max. They look forward if Max is chasing. Everyone's been chasing after Max for years.
@patrickbakema55766 сағат бұрын
Really? U question this? My god.
@clintharper55095 сағат бұрын
@@KBowWow75 Cost cap breach Asymmetric braking Ride height device Fia sucking the Dutch sausage, is it no wonder he lead so many laps & races, me & you could have done the same with all those advantages.
@read89simo3 сағат бұрын
@@clintharper5509one word : CRY
@clintharper55093 сағат бұрын
@@read89simo how many times has max cleared you're throat 😵🤣
@patrickpalmer16174 сағат бұрын
😂 I like as Stuart looked at Alex and said Hermanos Rodriguez.....I thought no he wasnt but still a doozy if you are playing Scrabble.. Is the new evidence that they found millions of motorsport fans were found out to have eyes?? Theyre not Stewards anymore more like Stewers....they mull over things for far too long and we end up with something that smells a bit funny.....😮😮
@leebex1003 сағат бұрын
Cost cap breach. Asymmetrical braking. Only team with a ride height device in the cockpit. Only rear mounted cameras. Recieves, by far, the greater number of controversial decisions by stewards. There seems to be a pattern emerging....
@georgesanchez80513 сағат бұрын
In the words of Charlie Murphy, they are “habitual line-steppers”
@dylanburston74533 сағат бұрын
Lol, Lando got away with forcing George off, break checking Leclerc, erratic movement and moving under breaking. He received 4 times the breaks max did last weekend. Oh, and mclaren had some random on twitter about exceeding fuel flow rate, which has as much credibilty as the claim that RB were using asymetrical breaking. And the ride height thing has been cleared, just like Mclarens flexi wing. McKaren F1 team
@jjjjrrr678Сағат бұрын
It's amusing, Max did not even bother staying on the track and somehow Lando gets the penalty 🤣
@MrN_222 сағат бұрын
Verstappen went off track and got a strike for that. Norris also went serveral times of track. The fact Norris went of next to Verstappen to him is not taken into considiration because Norris was behind at the Apex so it was not his corner.. Norris should be penalised for an illegal overtake. Verstappen should be penalized if he exeeds track limits 4 times or more. (Just like evereybody else). Its simple! It
@RedlingsteinСағат бұрын
Max did only 1 track limit, Lando 4.
@MrN_22Сағат бұрын
@@Redlingstein you make a point. Why should Max be penalized for forcing someone of who is illegally in that position? Why is Norris allowed to exceed track limits and not get penalized?
@oxfordsparky7 сағат бұрын
Will max ever be taken to task?
@jerome86707 сағат бұрын
Nope 😂 Max is the FIa
@wibblywobbly996 сағат бұрын
No, he has too much dirt on big Ben
@tgfabthunderbird1Сағат бұрын
I have no doubt nothing will happen. F1 and Red Bull are in bed together, so yeah.
@MarkMateljan-kc8ip5 сағат бұрын
Still grasping at straws...... what's the point of having umpires if everything you don't like a result become questionable..... Norris is just a prat.
@MIEJ42 сағат бұрын
What if the umpires missed something when they decided?
@MarkMateljan-kc8ipСағат бұрын
@@MIEJ4 yes well if every time an opponent doesn't like a result (in any sport/competition) it becomes untenable for everyone.... so don't have competition or umpires at all.
@tuna5618Сағат бұрын
@@MIEJ4 They missed nothing, they have all the camera angles and telemetry already.
@oumarabdoulba78622 сағат бұрын
Clearly verstappen break the rules by not giving room before the line
@RedlingsteinСағат бұрын
😂😂 you clearly need to read the stewards report 😂😂 you have no clue wha5 you are saying
@ianmassey442 сағат бұрын
Max also gains advantage by running others off the track. Yes you can’t over take off track I agree but Max took himself off track too so technically they both out of bounds. Lando was being brave & put Max under pressure. You know what Max is about when he under pressure. If Max wants to play these so called racing hard dirty games then stay on the flipping track & leave a space. NEED OLD SKOOL GRAVEL TRAPS TO DEAL WITH ALL THIS NONSENSE
@SicilianDefence6 сағат бұрын
Haters gonna hate!
@fintonmainz78453 сағат бұрын
The rules are clear. The penalty was justified but Lando is English so it wouldn't surprise me if the appeal is successful
@lowerlaptime6 сағат бұрын
Its Norris ' job to keep the car on the track
@peterthomas57926 сағат бұрын
Don't be ridiculous - how can he do that when he's left no track to drive on?
@lowerlaptime6 сағат бұрын
@@peterthomas5792 dont go around?
@davemis406 сағат бұрын
So it’s ok to fly up the inside with no chance of making the corner without forcing the other car off track ?
@lowerlaptime6 сағат бұрын
@@davemis40 well.. is it ok to fly around the outside?
@paulsilas60375 сағат бұрын
@@peterthomas5792 By braking early...
@ediltonspencer69743 сағат бұрын
HAHAHA! MAX USED TO CONSTANTLY SQUEEZE HAMILTON OFF TRACK AND IT WAS CONSIDERED HARD RACING, NONE CARED. NOW ALL WANT CHANGE?
@hvop3734Сағат бұрын
the review stuff is a joke. I am fast loosing interest in watching F1
@michaelmitchell85677 сағат бұрын
Shame
@markymarcro6 сағат бұрын
Get on with it. FIA will ruin this awesome season again.
@LiNEKE-rs6wc10 минут бұрын
THEY SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST BOTH BEEN PUNISHED. MAX MADE MULTIPLE MISTAKES WHILE LANDO MAYBE MADE ONE. Low level from the FIA ... Fairplay in queens class is hard to find 😪 Start to look like a long commercial television deal made upfront
@fodiographer3 сағат бұрын
sigh, are we still taking about this bullshit. How can there be new evidence when the facts are very clear. All videos where reviewed already by the Stewards. This is just McLaren trying to make chaos just like what Zak did with the bib which has turned out to be a nothing burger. Can we talk about actual racing again Autosport?
@MIEJ42 сағат бұрын
How do you know all the videos were already checked? That’s what the first meeting will review and decide on it.
@johnsullivan65076 сағат бұрын
The hate from British brodcasters towards Horner. He is easily the greatest british team head since Brawn .I'm just so surprised he isn't celebrated more. This comment is in regards to the odd little shot at horner when talking about Landos way of not answering a question. The presenter didn't Ike it and blamed Horner. It just seems so weird to me.
@mtrps_6 сағат бұрын
indeed, as non european its so appalling! if Red Bull ever had a British multi champion, theyd lick his boots more than they did to the German boss 😂😂
@eoincassin42656 сағат бұрын
"Everyone had an opinion" Very next sentence: "Liam Lawson didnt have an opinion" Sums up how seriously we should take a couple of british muppets
@DasE30Cuz6 сағат бұрын
It's not that deep brother. Maybe try to find a way to get them to pay for their rent in your head though
@tuna5618Сағат бұрын
the british media always find a way to manufacture a narrative
@blankpage5554 сағат бұрын
why putting a photo of petez
@PrasadGonjari-w1hСағат бұрын
Max is a dirty driver
@brianackerman2226Сағат бұрын
The Brits try to ruin everything 😂
@vmcmark757841 минут бұрын
If the ground under the track at COTA's is too ""CLAY-EY"" & putting in sand would allow the rain to seep in & thus ruin said track surface then just do as the coppers do and place TIRE FLATTENING SPIKE STRIPS anywhere that you would have placed the gravel bed & if you go off track then your day is done, PENALTY SERVED & then just roll up the spikes when finished & the track remains the same & all is good, OR JUST START RAMMING MAX LIKE YOU FINALLY DID IN AUSTRIA & AFTER 8-10 WEEKS OF THAT the FIM & F1 just might pull their heads out of each others butts & do something about the FULL RAMMING SPEED MAX PROBLEM that is now the total ruination of this teetering sport. We all are getting tired of the ""GO AHEAD MAKE MY DAY by STAYING RIGHT in the WAY & HAVING ME TAKE YOU OUT"" because you do care about crashing & I'm a BULLY, SO THERE, WAAAAAAA WAAAAAAA WAAAAAA!!
@samueldorrington89904 сағат бұрын
I think they are going to try and make a case that Norris had technically overtaken Max before the braking zone and that Max was counter attacking rather than defending. If this was accepted then Norris held the position he had already taken, and Max had forced another car off the track. One of the arguments made in Brazil 2021 was that Lewis didn't get his car fully ahead of Max before either of them hit the brakes. From the camera views we've seen so far it's not clear if Norris ever got his whole car ahead before they hit the brakes. I believe that the new evidence proves Norris was fully ahead for the briefest of moments. Edit: clarification of new evidence
@MIEJ42 сағат бұрын
I think that will have been looked at already, but who knows.
@samueldorrington89902 сағат бұрын
@@MIEJ4 possibly, in which case they'll just throw it out.
@RedlingsteinСағат бұрын
He did not, they were alongside, Max was not a car behind but alongside. And that is not new evidence 😂😂😂 the stewards have all data, telemetry, cameras. That just McLarens opinion…thats not new evidence 😂😂😂😂
@jamestaylor4475 сағат бұрын
Adding gravel would just help Max out
@guillermoperezsantosСағат бұрын
Max is a cheater
@oldsingleplayer3012Сағат бұрын
bla bla bla......
@jasonwebster93005 сағат бұрын
Formula 1 has been very bad joke for decades. When you allow teams, manufacturers and drivers to run roughshod over the sport and the FIA and rules and regulations, this will certainly keep happening. Formula is no longer a professional sport, it is an extremely expensive version of the WWF on wheels! Also, massive inconsistency from race stewards have played a part. Formula E and WEC deliver better and more enjoyable racing than Formula 1.
@MIEJ42 сағат бұрын
Seems like you don’t know the rules then. It’s part of the game as much as driving is.
@richardvandijk51835 сағат бұрын
Without Max, Alexa doesn’t have a job.
@Milkydrummer2 сағат бұрын
The stewards are scared to punish max. His whole career has been built off dive bombing people, not making the corners, pushing people off track when attacking and defending, and coliding with people.
@RedlingsteinСағат бұрын
😂😂 when you use the word “scared” in F1 you are laughable … it’s F1 ..nobody uses the word scared in any situation 😂😂😂😂
@wkpalmer19763 сағат бұрын
IMHO Lando should have given the place back and the Stewards should have issued Max with a penalty for retaining the position by leaving the track to gain that advantage However, that means Lando/McLaren would have to trust that the Stewards would issue that penalty to Max which I completely understand them not being willing to do!
@MIEJ42 сағат бұрын
Yep its a difficult thing all round and need to make a split second decision, that’s why they have someone in the team that (should) know the rules inside out and can predict what the stewards should be doing.
@RedlingsteinСағат бұрын
Lando overtook off track,that is a 10sec penalty this season…..he was lucky they were lenient and only gave 5sec, they did that COS OF THE SITUATION.
@naspotsev46583 сағат бұрын
2021 all over again… every one forgot about Max’s antics because he hasn’t been challenge in the last seasons. But Max hasn’t change. FIA neither, it seems…
@RedlingsteinСағат бұрын
😂😂😂😂 oh the British trauma again….
@naspotsev4658Сағат бұрын
@@Redlingstein i’m not British 😉
@tiagoabrantes19726 сағат бұрын
Dont worry, Lando will be world champion, maybe next year, who knows...
@PinkAsAPistol5 сағат бұрын
Seems like getting someone to admit that Norris doesn't deserve to be champion this year will be infinitely easier than getting you to admit that Verstappen should have gotten a penalty there
@1bertoselastrae7 сағат бұрын
My god this is so annoying 🫠
@robmessa54026 сағат бұрын
I think it’s annoying because Man Bun boy is the one speaking