That’s How Max Drives!’ - Hamilton DRAGS Verstappen Over Lando Incident!

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@Direct_Dutchy
@Direct_Dutchy 4 сағат бұрын
He doesnt say anything negative about Verstappen at all. He talks about the rules
@IanHobday
@IanHobday 3 сағат бұрын
He's talking about what Verstappen is doing over and over again, and has done to multiple drivers. Most recently to Norris, where Norris ended up getting a penalty after Verstappen forced him off the road.
@Sheek888
@Sheek888 3 сағат бұрын
Clickbait title... unsubscribe
@sleepyumi
@sleepyumi 2 сағат бұрын
@@IanHobdayYeah it’s allowed by the rules so why wouldn’t a driver abuse a broken system, yeah it’s not ‘honorable’ but if one driver doesn’t take advantage of the rules then whoever they are racing against probably will.
@wouterk4160
@wouterk4160 2 сағат бұрын
​@@IanHobdayyou mean he's following the rules 😂🤡
@VjRj84
@VjRj84 2 сағат бұрын
@@sleepyumi doesnt excuse the behavior, it is allowed because nobody was dirty enough to do it this much. Another grey area killed by the reckless kid.
@ant1bot102
@ant1bot102 2 сағат бұрын
Lewis didn't even say it's a problem with Max, all he's saying is that Max is taking full advantage of the way rules are written by the FIA and admits he himself would do the same thing every single time if these are how the rules work, the title is so misleading and here Lewis is criticizing the FIA and not Max
@johnmorris7815
@johnmorris7815 Сағат бұрын
He is absolutely correct, all the physical barriers were taken off race tracks for diver safety only to have Max come along and abuse the track limits for his own gain. Two choices: change the rule so that the car in front on the entry to the corner has priority, or bring back barriers/gravel traps?
@billythekid-bestservant1
@billythekid-bestservant1 6 сағат бұрын
Definitely the FIA needs to change the rule here. It's not even about verstappen at this point. The guy has always been ruthless, but the rules need to be changed immediately. Otherwise, there is going to be incident right and left.
@jerome8670
@jerome8670 5 сағат бұрын
It’s just what they allow for max to win If they’d have punished him he wouldn’t have been world champion And this year he wouldn’t either Facts
@firozansari2123
@firozansari2123 4 сағат бұрын
@@jerome8670 Since no rules were broken, there is no punishment as well. Max can be as ruthless as he wants given that no rules are broken. FIA needs to come up with a clear ruling to handle such situation
@19anilam
@19anilam 4 сағат бұрын
@@firozansari2123 I think using logic is a moot point here 😁
@19anilam
@19anilam 4 сағат бұрын
@@jerome8670 😥😥
@michaelrobson1627
@michaelrobson1627 4 сағат бұрын
You mean an incHident?
@nicksmith8557
@nicksmith8557 2 сағат бұрын
Misleading / clickbait title. Hamilton is just discussing the rules. No comment on MV at all.
@MrEnagee
@MrEnagee 2 сағат бұрын
WELCOME TO THE INTERNET AN KZbin!!
@mattcurr9931
@mattcurr9931 2 сағат бұрын
he literally said Max did it to him in 2021 too
@nicksmith8557
@nicksmith8557 2 сағат бұрын
@mattcurr9931 and yet, he 'literally' didn't say that at all.
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Сағат бұрын
@@mattcurr9931 Which was an example more than anything else. It shows that these "controversial" moments happen when tehre's close racing with something (like a WDC) on the line. That's what we all want (right?), so we should also accept these "controversies", because I cannot see any system of rules that's going to change this.
@WAYNELEWIS-x6b
@WAYNELEWIS-x6b Сағат бұрын
He said it happened to him in 2021 and its very clear that he was talking about verstappen .
@YGhost_05
@YGhost_05 4 сағат бұрын
it's not even only about Verstappen at this point, FIA kept distributing +5 to everyone going off track to avoid collision
@ezatron9766
@ezatron9766 3 сағат бұрын
We need that Arab t x Muhammed to leave the FIA
@dmc005
@dmc005 2 сағат бұрын
Soo true, you either collide or get +5.... Don't make sense 😐😐
@eufraciovillarreal
@eufraciovillarreal 26 минут бұрын
sometimes they drop a 10 sec penalty not even 5 sec lmao like k mag in saudi i think earlier this year (memory not great i could be wrong)
@Samuel-gc6js
@Samuel-gc6js Сағат бұрын
As Fernando said "ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE SPACE" when did this rule change?
@gregreader1
@gregreader1 3 сағат бұрын
McLaren should simply have Piastri lunge up the inside of a corner on Max, knock him off the road like the rules allow, and then Lando cruises to the championship
@reddwarf666
@reddwarf666 2 сағат бұрын
Are you suggesting one driver taking out the rival of another driver and thus gaining an advantage to win the WC title? If you are indeed suggesting the drivers should intentional crash other drivers then you should seek another sport to follow because that would be insane, dangerous and life threatening. Disgusting idea actually.
@vineethprabhu8560
@vineethprabhu8560 2 сағат бұрын
Your idea will only put Piastri out of F1 competition. You're asking him to be Mahaveer Raghunathan.
@FJAK2049
@FJAK2049 Сағат бұрын
That's what's happening. If lando turns in, they crash. Seen it already with Hamilton before where he ended up clipping the back of Max car. So if reckless driving is encouraged, it should be for all of them. Just fair.
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Сағат бұрын
@@FJAK2049 Not so subtle reference to a brake check that never happened?
@simoooooooon443
@simoooooooon443 Сағат бұрын
@@reddwarf666same disgusting idea as Schumacher in 1994 and 1997, and Senna in 1989. Should Senna and Schumacher also have found another sport to follow?
@peterbackhouse8650
@peterbackhouse8650 Сағат бұрын
My opinion is, for what it's worth, Jos taught Max to "win at any cost" Jos used to drive with the same attitude. The apple never falls far from the tree.
@starsailor49
@starsailor49 2 сағат бұрын
Max knows all he needs to do is run off the track and he can’t be overtaken on the outside. All other drivers need to use this stunt each time Max dives for the outside.
@Ivoryjudo
@Ivoryjudo Сағат бұрын
Max has overcapicity in his brain, others dont
@taykitrleevitt4314
@taykitrleevitt4314 Сағат бұрын
​@Ivoryjudo 😂😂😂... Max is a petulant child, and it's up to the FIA to discipline the child.
@karthikpenumetch9300
@karthikpenumetch9300 28 минут бұрын
@@Ivoryjudothat doesn’t even apply to the topic 💀, also overpacicity isn’t a word bloody hell
@Goaltimer
@Goaltimer 4 сағат бұрын
Correct. Norris was ahead but Verstappen braked later with no intention to stay on track and therefore ahead again at the apex. This should be allowed.
@peterschalker
@peterschalker 3 сағат бұрын
Interesting You know someones intensions
@WBO-lp3cp
@WBO-lp3cp 3 сағат бұрын
​@@peterschalker intentions
@Psmitty3000
@Psmitty3000 2 сағат бұрын
@@peterschalkerlook at the brake traces maybe ?
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Сағат бұрын
Apparently this is allowed. NB: Norris being 15 thousands of a second ahead before the braking zone didn't mean defender and attacker switched. Max was still defeinding. IF NOT, i.e. if FIA amend the rules somehow, I already know the next meta of overtaking wil be.
@peterschalker
@peterschalker Сағат бұрын
@@Psmitty3000 its what he did. Nobody can look in his head and claim to know what the intentions where
@jusbus777
@jusbus777 4 сағат бұрын
I agree with him it's not racing. What Verstappen does by push a car off track on defense, dive bombing down the inside on attack. I think anyone can do that. When it comes to real racing, positioning your car perfectly to so the attacker does have much of an opportunity ontrack to pass. Bait drivers into a mistake. Getting better runs out of turn engaging in real dog fights on track not many drivers can do that. That's racing.
@rosek7114
@rosek7114 3 сағат бұрын
"When it comes to real racing, positioning your car perfectly to so the attacker does have much of an opportunity ontrack to pass" So literally what Max was doing with Norris? And bet you didn't care much about the divebombs from Norris on Max in Austria huh? Max played within the rules. You can keep crying about it, but he's the one on course to winning the WDC.
@jusbus777
@jusbus777 3 сағат бұрын
@@rosek7114 Key words "on track pass". I purposely put those words there because I know someone like you would respond in this manner. Max forces his competitors off track in every instance. To you that may be great racing and that's perfectly fine. To me it's not, and I think as time goes by people who love carnage will continue to see him as a great racer and people who love to see brilliant racecraft perfect executions and sublime dogfights will see him for what he is
@_qwe_fk_1700
@_qwe_fk_1700 3 сағат бұрын
Lewis does it too.
@mattbilello6229
@mattbilello6229 2 сағат бұрын
@@rosek7114Max was overtaken by the end of the straight entering the corner so he was not defending but overtaking by dive bombing the inside of a slow corner and was not able to stay on track - he was not entitled to the position as the overtaking car that was not able to stay on track and forcing the defending car on th3 outside to avoiding action and run wide. You want to see this as Max defending and Lando overtaking off track but it is actually the opposite because Lando passed Max by the end of the straight because DRS and fresher tires and it was Max that was trying to get ahead but not staying on track and not leaving a space. I would praise Max first excellent defense if he was defending but he was not in this instance and the stewards applied the rules incorrectly.
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Сағат бұрын
@@jusbus777 "and people who love to see brilliant racecraft perfect executions and sublime dogfights will see him for what he is" You slipped there.
@sickwicked6640
@sickwicked6640 2 сағат бұрын
This is just like how they had to change the safety car rule and the car behind having to give space. Again it was BC of Max that they changed the rule. Max seems to follow the rules and use them to drive unsafe and gain advantages. As I am sure other drives have and will do. But this needs to be changed.. But the other issue is that why are the stewards/fia punishing other drivers for this stuff but when its Max he seems to get off more often then not. Specially since 2021 and beyond.
@HaydenLau.
@HaydenLau. 2 сағат бұрын
Next time just do the same but brake hard and pull off switchback. Even if you don't get the move done, Max will be off track and he will then need to give the position back
@MaartenRonteltap
@MaartenRonteltap 3 сағат бұрын
Verstappen plays by the rules. The winning player outperforms others by optimally behaving within the framework provided by the rules, and that's true for every sport. If you want Verstappen's behavior to change, it's the rules that need to changed of the sport in general.
@mattbilello6229
@mattbilello6229 2 сағат бұрын
We will see how that works for Max today won’t we? Everyone is forgetting Lando passed Max on the straight and was ahead by corner entry and Max was the overtaking car - not defending - by going to the inside and not braking in time to make the corner and then running wide forcing the Lando on the outside to take avoiding action. When applying the rules correctly in that Max is NOT defending but overtaking and doing so in a manner such that he could NOT make the corner on track AND failing to leave a proper space for the car that you are overtaking there would be no penalty for Lando. Stewards did not apply the rules correctly. This corner is so slow speed that you don’t see it as dive bombing the corner but that is exactly what happened here but at only 90 KPH.
@TheGalantir
@TheGalantir 2 сағат бұрын
@@mattbilello6229 Unfortunately for you Max was ahead of Lando at the Apex and the rules state Lando should let him go. The rules were applied correctly but it wasn't in favor of your favorite driver so no matter what you're going to state anything but what happened in reality. It is a childish thing to do and all you're doing is frustrating yourself because nobody else cares about you crying.
@WhiteG60
@WhiteG60 2 сағат бұрын
@@TheGalantir The rules were applied correctly, but we're debating whether it's a good rule or not.
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Сағат бұрын
@@mattbilello6229 Afaik there's no rule/guideline/regulation that states that when you are ahead at the straight, the role of defender and attacker some how switched. I can already imagine a new meta happening if that will be the case (if the rules are amended).
@bastordd
@bastordd 2 сағат бұрын
Should be you are allow to push the other car out if you stay in track limits
@kaveeshakarunaratne8961
@kaveeshakarunaratne8961 2 сағат бұрын
Yes, otherwise the guy on the inside will be totally defenseless into the next corners. Max not managing to do that is the cause of this drama.
@amigang
@amigang 2 сағат бұрын
I think it should be if the driver defending doesn't make the corner then the overtake is allowed. I get you can still force the other car off the track, which is kinda wrong but then they could always do the switch back. At the end of the day if you cant make the corner, then clearly you over defended.
@mattbilello6229
@mattbilello6229 2 сағат бұрын
Max was NOT DEFENDING as he was passed by Lando on the straight and Max was actually trying to regain or overtake by braking late into the corner and could not stay on track so he was not entitled to be ahead of Lando at corner exit. Stewards did not apply the rules correctly and ahead at the apex does not mean you are not required to stay on track and not leave a space for the car you are overtaking which is substantially along side even if it’s one if the slowest corners and doesn’t look like a typical dive bombing tactic.
@simonfuchi6461
@simonfuchi6461 45 секунд бұрын
I would imagine the simple solution shoud be that if the defending car goes off the track, the overtaking car can do the same.
@mk33km
@mk33km Сағат бұрын
Pure facts from Lewis. And no exagerration, this could be done on every corner and inside car would never lose position. Basically limits overtaking to straights.
@jerome8670
@jerome8670 5 сағат бұрын
So so simple ! Lewis is spot on! 🎉
@PreciousJacob
@PreciousJacob 4 сағат бұрын
In crying
@robnero9196
@robnero9196 4 сағат бұрын
Lewis... right 😂😂😂😂
@willemhaifetz-chen1588
@willemhaifetz-chen1588 4 сағат бұрын
Clearly we need more Verstappen rules, after that everything will be fine. Do not expect Verstappen to think, adjust and win again, requiring even more of these changes.
@sMooVe1982
@sMooVe1982 4 сағат бұрын
@@willemhaifetz-chen1588 Why? He got pushed wide multiple times in 2017 and especially in 2021. He did adjust to the rules, that's why he drives according to the rules now and why he doesn't get punished. Seems like when it works in favor of your favorite driver, the rules are fine. But if Verstappen follows the rules as they are, it's not fine. Hypocrisy much?
@straightreject2947
@straightreject2947 3 сағат бұрын
​@@PreciousJacob don't grow up. You amusing as you are.
@brenodesouza6189
@brenodesouza6189 5 сағат бұрын
FIA looks a bunch of rich kids that doesn't know what they are doing. I'm this close on giving up F1.
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 4 сағат бұрын
Yeah. They let Lando get away with pushing george off in the sprint, slamming his breaks on in front of leclerc, and moving under breaking and defending erraticly
@littletweeter1327
@littletweeter1327 4 сағат бұрын
@@dylanburston7453 crazy that nobody even batted an eye at lando brake checking leclerc at turn 1 lmao. same thing alonso got huge flak and penalized for but way worse. lucky leclerc is a better driver than george
@dylanburston7453
@dylanburston7453 4 сағат бұрын
@@littletweeter1327 It wasnt turn 1, but yeah. It was even worse than Alonso. Alonso braked slightly early to recharge ERS (so he had flashing lights) which is something you would expect. Plus, George was much furthur behind. Lando literally just slammed on the breaks to go round a flat out corner, before the breaking zone for the one coming after.
@darudy
@darudy 2 сағат бұрын
Also he forgot to mention when he did this too, like Bahrein 2021
@rkwjunior2298
@rkwjunior2298 Сағат бұрын
He's right. Max was pushing also and went wide. Lando had to go wide, but he cant gain. No penalty for max.
@rext0n_0
@rext0n_0 4 сағат бұрын
WOW. The number of times he pushes NICO out in 2015 and 2016 were all forgotten. AMAZING.
@blaise2833
@blaise2833 4 сағат бұрын
Seems like you don't understand the difference between being ahead in the corner and inside track limits pushing someone off, and not making the corner going off track and pushing someone off.
@r2drone227
@r2drone227 4 сағат бұрын
If the driver on the inside stays on the track then that is a legitimate move.
@sMooVe1982
@sMooVe1982 4 сағат бұрын
@@r2drone227 Even if the driver on the inside doesn't stay on track, given he's got 1 more track limit violation left, that is a legitimate move.
@ralpha.3864
@ralpha.3864 4 сағат бұрын
The difference is that Lewis stays on track, Max doesent
@JohnnyBoy281
@JohnnyBoy281 3 сағат бұрын
Dumb
@2lo4sno
@2lo4sno 6 минут бұрын
These incidents are very easy to spot within the time it takes to get to the next corner. I don't even need telemetry.
@ahmetsezer2076
@ahmetsezer2076 55 минут бұрын
Very easy to solve . There should be a line in the center for especially where overtaking possibilities are . If Verstappen wants to defend he should have a smaller radius which will make him slower . The guy behind will know the limits of both and try to overtake . Should be monitored with sensors same as track limits. With the existing rules/situation Verstappen starts inside and completes outside no intention of taking the corner . That is not racing .
@larssonk22
@larssonk22 3 сағат бұрын
"Hamilton DRAGS Verstappen Over Lando Incident!" DRAGS! DRAAAGS!
@Switll72
@Switll72 4 сағат бұрын
Baku 2023 Max went to outside on turn two Russel ran into his side pod Max had to break or end up in the wall...... No penalty for Russel and EVERYONE blamed Max for taking outside line because Russel was at apex first ..... Talk about double standards?!?!?
@resadrecebli2263
@resadrecebli2263 3 сағат бұрын
all I remember is everyone hated George that weekend and nobody blamed Max
@Switll72
@Switll72 3 сағат бұрын
@@resadrecebli2263 HAHAHAH WHAT !?!?!?! Sky sport all said Max was at fault he shouldn't be there its Russel's corner !!!! point is there was no Penalty for Russel after he clearly ran into Max ...now Max is on the inside and Lando outside Max not even hitting Lando and Lando clearly overtaking off track but everyone is loosing there Minds !!!
@resadrecebli2263
@resadrecebli2263 3 сағат бұрын
@@Switll72 yea I am talking about the fans' opinions. Who gives a damn about biased sky sports opinions anyways
@kizer0161
@kizer0161 3 сағат бұрын
@@Switll72 person you're arguing is completely right though, at least on social media (the relevant media coverage). Nobody watches sky tv live, let's be honest.
@akmalhakim8144
@akmalhakim8144 35 минут бұрын
Okayyy, Baku 2023 Max angry at Russell coz not leave the space for both cars to make the corner. Fast forward now at Austin 2024, did Max leave enough space for Norris to make the corner for both cars ? I guess u can't answer this coz Max always thinks he is right 😆
@yrtracingteam106
@yrtracingteam106 53 минут бұрын
00:03 in the 2021 finale race hamilton took out Max in the fifth corner and pushed him of track and the fia let it slide. The same fia whom was(and still is) accused of helping Max ..in that same races. And now hamilton is (still) whining again. Unbelievable
@WhiteG60
@WhiteG60 2 сағат бұрын
The rule should simply be ammended that if the inside driver also exceeds track limits, they lose all protections from the other driver 'gaining an advantage by going off track' since the inside driver also went off track. It shouldn't be down to simply having a a punch left on your track limits card before the black and white flag is shown.
@PonderDuke
@PonderDuke 2 минут бұрын
Just put gravel or grass next to the track. That at least fixes track limits and leaving the track and gaining an advantage and also to leave the inside car on track.
@shannonrobson2237
@shannonrobson2237 2 сағат бұрын
When you have a slower car, the only option to stay in front would be by pushing the other driver of the track ..
@abdurrahmanshamma3107
@abdurrahmanshamma3107 3 сағат бұрын
Imagine you have walls both sides and you will be just fine.
@mattbilello6229
@mattbilello6229 2 сағат бұрын
Yes and Max would not have tried to lunge on the inside AFTER BEING PASSED ON THE STRAIGHT which everyone including the stewards failed to consider last week.
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Сағат бұрын
Yes, let's turn every F1 track into a street circuit. 🤡
@2lo4sno
@2lo4sno 9 минут бұрын
This is the reason why the Silverstone crash happened. They will continue to happen until someone gets the idea.
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Сағат бұрын
In this new sport of Formula one, how come them rules allow racing tactics that somehow should not be allowed and break them rules, but don't? Either you break a rule and get penalized. Or you race around a rule and it's allowed. What's the alternative? Become a judge-based sport like ice dancing.
@bojansavic4108
@bojansavic4108 38 минут бұрын
100% correct....and I think everyone would agree...and yet...it is decided otherwise.
@erikwellerweller8623
@erikwellerweller8623 Сағат бұрын
I criticize him for things he has done but he is 100% right about this.
@tuna5618
@tuna5618 4 сағат бұрын
The rules are what they are, you may not like them and that's 10000% fair, but let's not act like max broke the rules. Maybe lewis is a bit salty, idk.
@Sf08321
@Sf08321 4 сағат бұрын
Hamilton didn't say that Max broke the rules rather he was criticising the rules themselves and how they are written to allow cars to escape punishment by divebombing the apex
@glammin6187
@glammin6187 4 сағат бұрын
@@Sf08321 and he's spot on about that. The fans don't really understand that and think that he's shitting on verstappen..
@osheri6265
@osheri6265 3 сағат бұрын
@@glammin6187 people too obsessed with 'who's crying now'. Anyone with half a brain cell understands Hamilton is talking about the rules and using previous examples that he was involved in to back up his statements. Lewis is 100% right as I have said countless times, you cant lunge into an apex to be there first with no intention of keeping your car on track.
@karthikpenumetch9300
@karthikpenumetch9300 23 минут бұрын
are u restarted?
@davidglow3
@davidglow3 3 сағат бұрын
Russell had the same issue..Slowing down on a corner and running wide makes it impossible not to be forced off track.. Probably better to try the inside..If your nose is ahead it is very obvious if the other than cuts you into the corner
@PhilbyFavourites
@PhilbyFavourites 2 сағат бұрын
What does DRAGS mean - speak English…….
@saqib7965
@saqib7965 36 минут бұрын
Max has had more rule changes then any other driver he's on the limit on what's right and wrong
@Shifftee
@Shifftee 4 сағат бұрын
Well, since Max is trying to secure his championship through such dirtу tасtics, Lando should just accept the fact that he won’t win this year, and should start сrаshing into Max during such instances so that Leclerc eventually wins the championship. That would tеасh him a lеssоn.
@stijnrousch4319
@stijnrousch4319 4 сағат бұрын
I agree with that the rules about wheel to wheel racing are broken. however, max didn't make the rules, he just utilises them to his advantage. you can't blame him for doing this, the fault is at the FIA. if they change the rules and make the punishments more severe than drivers like verstappen will change their ways.
@arnav_0912
@arnav_0912 4 сағат бұрын
dirty tactics is a stretch , he just makes the most of it . Either way max +rb is a superior combination up until now then lando + mclaren
@thecaptain5026
@thecaptain5026 4 сағат бұрын
He operates within t he current rules. You win a championship by using everything that you're allowed to do and properly a bit more. Lewis would do the same, and he did so. Just look at the last race against Nico for example.
@reddwarf666
@reddwarf666 2 сағат бұрын
He is using the rules to it's fullest effect. If that is an issue then the FIA needs to adapt it's rules, simple. But you blame the smart driver for using this advantage, even calling it 'dirty'. You know what is dirty? You suggesting drivers taking each other out, causing mayhem, hurt and possibly death. Well done you, moral knight of the dirty realm.
@Shifftee
@Shifftee 21 минут бұрын
@@reddwarf666 Keep the same energy once everyone else starts “using rules to their fullest effect” by underbraking in the corner when defending against Max with him on the outside. Especially when he fails to yield and gets taken out at 51G… Oh, wait
@911thom9
@911thom9 Сағат бұрын
DRS should be gone on a straight there is no way to defend what Max did was amazing and Lando could have given the position back and overtake again if there wash gravel on the side of the track both drivers need to adapt and make a choice to do the overtake or not but now its like oh lets go off track and look at the rules.. I am sure Oscar in a few years will easily pass max in such a faster car..
@gombally
@gombally 3 сағат бұрын
But its just not true that the car on the outside always has to go wide. You can also yield and slot behind the driver on the inside/in front. If there is a wall or gravel, nobody would go around.
@gseric4721
@gseric4721 3 сағат бұрын
Facts.
@davidglow3
@davidglow3 3 сағат бұрын
And lose 4 seconds as you have to accelerate from your forced slowing down.
@H0lyFr0ggy
@H0lyFr0ggy 3 сағат бұрын
​@@davidglow3 not true, look how lawson overtook alonso breaking early
@mattbilello6229
@mattbilello6229 3 сағат бұрын
Do you think it is appropriate to dive bomb into a corner to overtake another car and run wide and not stay on track? All these Max fans are failing to recognize Lando passed Max by the end of the straight and it was Max that was overtaking - not defending - by not braking in time on the inside of the corner and running wide but you fail to see it that way because you are fans of Max AND because it was all happening at such a slow corner it does not seem like dive bombing because it’s happening at 90 KPH. Be fair and stop making excuses because you know Max had the slower car and when this happened with 5 laps left Lando was able to pull out a 4 second lead (1 second per lap) at the end.
@gombally
@gombally 3 сағат бұрын
​@@davidglow3 But this is how you race, when you are ahead of the apex, the car on the outside just has to yield that is the consequence of not defending properly. You can't just expect to always have the right to the corner, not caring about needing to defend anymore.
@robertmariu6783
@robertmariu6783 3 сағат бұрын
Norris was ahead and braked to turn into the corner but Max was there cos he could brake later to keep Lando on his outside and that's why he ran wide though he didn't exceed track limits . Lando had to run wider than he intended to in order to avoid a collision !
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Сағат бұрын
"being ahead" is not a criterium or in the rules, If you have an 8 lane 400m running competition, would you said that anyone who's ahead on the first straight is necessarily ahead overall? Think about it.
@stijepozupanovic7225
@stijepozupanovic7225 3 сағат бұрын
Like in silverstone you and max,nice do you remember your rivalry with Nico Rosberg.
@jasonkerins3807
@jasonkerins3807 4 сағат бұрын
Have to avoid the collision, albon in Brazil he forgot that
@kaveeshakarunaratne8961
@kaveeshakarunaratne8961 2 сағат бұрын
Lewis admitted that he was in the wrong. Apologized and took the penalty without any complaints.
@lilyjones8145
@lilyjones8145 4 сағат бұрын
Lewis saying like it is, he’s fair and honest 👌💜
@patrickkleine9954
@patrickkleine9954 2 сағат бұрын
Max learns and not for get how its done and he not forget the rules
@MrRemkoonline
@MrRemkoonline 4 сағат бұрын
Lewis as a saint, always respects his colleagues and the rules...a bit🤔 hypocrite Lewis. Only the great win with a car that isn't superior by their drivingstyle, on the edge of the rulebook.
@karthikpenumetch9300
@karthikpenumetch9300 20 минут бұрын
if u weren’t so restarted, you’d know he addressing the rules themselves and not the competitors
@camoospi9349
@camoospi9349 Сағат бұрын
Even thought is not a Max issue since he is following the rules... is a bit of driver ethic what he does..... and the rule doesn't make any sense. The FIA rules are a joke that no discussion. Either way I'm sure drivers have an ethic of they is right or wrong to do when racing.
@ChrisTop-k9p
@ChrisTop-k9p 3 сағат бұрын
Hamilton has been doing the same for years.. especially to his teammate 😂
@myeasylesson
@myeasylesson 2 сағат бұрын
You’re wrong Lewis, if the outside car has enough speed to pass on the outside, the inside car shouldn’t even have the choice of running wide (we have seen MANY clean passes on the outside over the years). If they both come together at the apex, it’s still the inside cars corner, period.
@XolSanctum
@XolSanctum 2 сағат бұрын
Which part of what he said is wrong that you're responding to?
@gerardjones1411
@gerardjones1411 2 сағат бұрын
😂😂 and you are ?? Lewis is wrong? , don’t think so. Max tried so hard to make the corner but couldn’t, so had over stepped the line. null and void in my book . No penalty
@JanVerny
@JanVerny Сағат бұрын
The inside car always has a choice of going wide, straight into your side, ruining your race. And Max is very much 100% willing to always accept a collision when he's ahead in points.
@myeasylesson
@myeasylesson Сағат бұрын
@@XolSanctumaccording to Lewis the inside car should leave the space when both cars come together at the Apex… let me remind you Lewis has absolutely dive bomb in many race starts from the inside trying to gain an advantage (think Miami, Turkey 2021, etc…) and have run wide and caused crashes but nobody talks about that
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Сағат бұрын
@@XolSanctum The part where Lewis is implying the driver on the outside should always be able to send it, even when CHOOSING to stay alongside, off-track, and then overtake. That part. It's also the implied part that shows what Lando did. If Lando was disadvantaged by the rules or Max's driving, how come he was ahead with that radius and off-track?
@billcranston3882
@billcranston3882 2 сағат бұрын
Just follow the Alonso mantra.
@NETBU
@NETBU 4 сағат бұрын
account like these i definite hit the don't recommend button.....
@drss3
@drss3 3 сағат бұрын
Every racing driver does the same pf using the rules to thier advantage... dude just saaying something cause he cant be having battles for the win
@OfishcialDiscusCanada-cu9df
@OfishcialDiscusCanada-cu9df 4 сағат бұрын
lol so many people crying but don’t know the rules. Race to the rules not what you think the rules are or should be. If Max isn’t getting penalties and others are, who is the one in the wrong?
@osheri6265
@osheri6265 3 сағат бұрын
The rules are wrong kid, the whole point of this video and discussion. Nobody is blaming your favourite driver.
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Сағат бұрын
@@osheri6265 The rules are wrong! 😂 Somehow in this century old sport the rules, are still wrong!
@Abhi-qr6hb
@Abhi-qr6hb 4 сағат бұрын
Thats why i love max. Hamilton crying Lando crying All of you are crying Hahaha Classic Max
@ununoctiu
@ununoctiu 4 сағат бұрын
Who is crying you noob.. speaking about something is crying?? 😂😂 am i crying now too?😂😂
@101cheekie
@101cheekie 4 сағат бұрын
Do you have a father? Just wondering 😢
@mohamadyazid269
@mohamadyazid269 4 сағат бұрын
I am not cry! but I told to everybody..max are brilliant and he know what a racing driver suppose to do..on that situation..support max!
@reddwarf666
@reddwarf666 2 сағат бұрын
@@ununoctiu You might not be crying but you sure sound agitated and angry. Any issues with anger control? Medicine, therapy? I hope you have that at least...
@jimdye4424
@jimdye4424 2 сағат бұрын
Max can drive but no real Sportsmanship!
@maddoxbromley6426
@maddoxbromley6426 4 сағат бұрын
Complete BS. It IS racing. Back when tracks had gravel traps instead of parking lot wide run offs, the outside car either lifted, crashed or beached. DRS makes passing easy enough, no need for more watered down nerf racing rules
@Shortsmotivation6
@Shortsmotivation6 4 сағат бұрын
Its called a motor race
@mr.commander3947
@mr.commander3947 2 сағат бұрын
He did not say the true of what verstappen was thinking in his mind at the time of the curve battle with norris,, AT the time of the curve battle for the pass, for the lead,, verstappen poise 50 points lead over norris,, let say they crash at that corner,, verstappen still grap the same lead and nothing change,, and then fight again next round,,, everyone knew this is an intentional impede from verstappen-----same dirty ugly style as ----michael schummy 20 years ago,,,
@BenFlipsCars
@BenFlipsCars 4 сағат бұрын
Lewis knows how to race respectfully. Whether the rules say it or not, anyone who's actually done any kind of racing knows that it you should always be left room and always leave room for respectful and fair racing. And that racing happens on the track 😆😆
@thecaptain5026
@thecaptain5026 4 сағат бұрын
The same Lewis would do everything if there is a championship on the line. And he did so many times.
@stijnrousch4319
@stijnrousch4319 4 сағат бұрын
there is a difference between exploiting the rules and racing dirty. the new rules allow for this kind of driving so you can't really blame drivers who use these tricks.
@exeuropean6639
@exeuropean6639 4 сағат бұрын
And what Lewis did to Max on Silverstone 2021 is ok? What a hypocrite. Let racers race. The less rules the better.
@anandh4581
@anandh4581 3 сағат бұрын
Silverstone 2021? Forgot? Or you're born yesterday?
@cyborgninja8667
@cyborgninja8667 3 сағат бұрын
@@anandh4581 lol ironic how you say born yesterday but you dts fans can only bring up this one incident
@ezatron9766
@ezatron9766 3 сағат бұрын
Racing is racing
@corneliusomolo7645
@corneliusomolo7645 4 сағат бұрын
The law / rules always have to be changed when a British driver loses especially against Max. You lost in 2021 move on.
@osheri6265
@osheri6265 3 сағат бұрын
Such a dumb statement and I'm saying this as a Max fan. You should not be able to divebomb into a corner to reach the apex first with no intention of keeping your car on track when defending. Take an IQ test please, it might make you think twice about typing again.
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Сағат бұрын
@@osheri6265 Max would have had a penalty for track limits, but since Lando actually overtook Max with that radius and being off-track himself it was obvious what lando's intention was with staying outside. Lando was not the victim being pushed outside, he benefitted from it. THAT is why he was penalized.
@roversberg
@roversberg 4 сағат бұрын
he's a fool, he has used this many times himself..
@Starjuicer
@Starjuicer 4 сағат бұрын
Name a specific corner where the telemetry is showing him going off the brakes into a corner, then going off track and keeping the position,please!
@KofiDjin
@KofiDjin 4 сағат бұрын
Respect yourself
@_qwe_fk_1700
@_qwe_fk_1700 3 сағат бұрын
@@Starjuicer suzuka against russell 2023
@TestAcc-lu5cn
@TestAcc-lu5cn 4 сағат бұрын
Bro forgot 2015 us gp
@cochorocks
@cochorocks 5 сағат бұрын
100%
@manasgupta1899
@manasgupta1899 4 сағат бұрын
That silence at 0:05 gave him flashbacks
@SuperBloodyskull
@SuperBloodyskull 3 сағат бұрын
Lewis is saying what everyone with remotely half a brain is also saying, the ruling are being applied by the stewarts wrongly and this in part has to do with the whole track limits ruling. No way should you be able to push an opponent/rival off track and keep your position, only my opinion but Lando had as much right as Max did to the outer edge of the track and if you look at other parts of the track the two raced side by side because Max knew at those points had held the advantage on the next corner but here Lando had his nose ahead as they reached the braking zone so he simply rolled off the brake a little to be ahead at the apex and then use the rule of excessing track limits to hold the position. It's funny that most other drivers read the rules differently to Max, how often are these rules needing to be re-written just because of his actions. LOL
@lm240specz
@lm240specz 3 сағат бұрын
@@SuperBloodyskull Yes, let’s change the rules because Max is much smarter than the others!🤦🤦🤦
@_qwe_fk_1700
@_qwe_fk_1700 3 сағат бұрын
yeah and Lewis drives like Max, but when Lewis does it nobody complains.
@grimbo738
@grimbo738 3 сағат бұрын
I dont get it. If Lando would have stayed behind Max or given the place back, Max would have gotten a penalty for running a driver off the track. But since he overtook him, he got the penalty for that. They even gave him 5 sec instead of 10 bc Max pushed him off. This whole discussion seems so blown up to me, gotta milk this titlerace-drama I guess.
@ΜανοςΦραντζας
@ΜανοςΦραντζας 2 сағат бұрын
no he wouldn't be given a penalty jst like he wasn't given one in brasil 2021 like hamilton says in the video.Rule is defintely incomplete and max doesn't really care about the racing he just wants to stay ahead so he takes advantage of it
@kaveeshakarunaratne8961
@kaveeshakarunaratne8961 2 сағат бұрын
Lando was probably very frustrated at that point. Its literally impossible to overtake Max because of his torpedo to the apex tactic. Also, Max almost never gets penalized for his dangerous driving so the team probably didn't have too much faith in the FIA. Trying to build that 5s buffer is better than going wheel to wheel with Max again. He almost managed it to, Lando got it upto 4.1s.
@grimbo738
@grimbo738 2 сағат бұрын
@@ΜανοςΦραντζας Im not defending the move, if I had my way I would just let them race. Im just saying that Lando needs to be smarter. Race smarter and take advantage of the rules just like Max does
@grimbo738
@grimbo738 2 сағат бұрын
@@kaveeshakarunaratne8961 totally get what you are saying. But it didnt work out and he lost points to Max again. Im just expecting more from Lando bc I want this championship to got down to the wire. 6 lap fresher tires and a faster car, you just cant fumble that.
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Сағат бұрын
Lando never had the place. Have you ever seen 400m athletic runs? Would you say the guy or girl on the outside lane that is slightly ahead on the first straight MUST therefore also be ahead overall? No of course not, that's is why it's not a criterium in F1 to determine "who's ahead". Whop's ahead is determined in a corner.
@bucurflorentin8563
@bucurflorentin8563 3 сағат бұрын
yes, max must be ban from racing! is so frustrated when losing
@darrenwardell3079
@darrenwardell3079 3 сағат бұрын
Well said Lewis👍
@blaise2833
@blaise2833 4 сағат бұрын
Like it or not, Lewis is 100% saying the truth and stating facts right here.
@Iiuuuiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
@Iiuuuiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 4 сағат бұрын
Yeah kind of like he did to rosberg in 2015 which sky found smart and great racing. Lewis did It to lando in China also great racing. It is just when a brit is worse of to a foreigner that the rules need changing
@tuna5618
@tuna5618 4 сағат бұрын
like it or not max was 100% within the rules.
@Don-Royall
@Don-Royall 4 сағат бұрын
​@@Iiuuuiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiwhat are you on about, Lewis has never taken all 4 wheels off track. Max did it in Brazil, Jeddah and about two other times. As for the Lando incident it isn't even as crazy as what Max did to Lewis. Lando fanboys are just hypocrite, praising Max in 21 and complaining in 24
@blaise2833
@blaise2833 4 сағат бұрын
@@Iiuuuiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Yeah except Hamilton was still inside the track in China, where Max went completely off track in Austin and back in Interlagos as well.
@sMooVe1982
@sMooVe1982 4 сағат бұрын
@@Don-Royall Bro, he went full corner cutting in Jeddah, what are you on about xD
@lm240specz
@lm240specz 3 сағат бұрын
The difference here is that Lando gained a position whilst going off track. Max was ahead at the apex & also went off track, BUT, Max hadn’t exceeded the track limits more than 3 time to earn a penalty.
@mattbilello6229
@mattbilello6229 2 сағат бұрын
Lando doesn’t get a penalty for track limits for being forced off the track by taking avoiding action. Was Lando ahead of Max at the end of the straight each entering the corner? Did Max then try to overtake on the inside by not braking in time to make the corner staying on track? If you can not answer those questions truthfully then it’s not worth talking to Max fans. Max was passed and he was not defending entering the corner but overtaking and he could not overtake staying on track (he could not stay ahead even going off track either) so Max is not entitled to the position and there is no penalty for Lando - not for overtaking off track and not for exceeding track limits because the last time he exceeded track limits was to take avoiding action because of Max.
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Сағат бұрын
@@mattbilello6229 Again. There is no rule afaik that determines drivers (mariginally) ahead/behind on a straight, because it's your perception. Who's ahead is determined by the apex. This is not that electric slot car mini racing that some kids had when we were young.
@saqib7965
@saqib7965 34 минут бұрын
I think max should retire soon he brings too much negativity to the sport
@xlmoriarty8921
@xlmoriarty8921 3 сағат бұрын
Sounds like bullshit to me😅
@BlackCat0315
@BlackCat0315 4 сағат бұрын
The only thing that needs to change is that the FIA need to start issuing penalties to Max for his transgressions. Max was behind Sainz at the exact same place on lap 1 (the apex of turn 12) and came out ahead of Sainz. Nobody called for him to give Sainz the place and he was not issued with a penalty. It was practically identical to the Norris incident but with a completely different result. This is not inconsistency, it is double standards.
@Er32k
@Er32k 4 сағат бұрын
Utter bollocks..put a graveltrap in each corner and let's see how many drivers take the outside line.They do now because of the run-off areas but if at COTA in that particullar corner would have been gravel,i'll bet Norris would have braked earlier to avoid a crash or the gravel.
@Mudi68
@Mudi68 3 сағат бұрын
Or Verstappen would not brake late as he would cause the collision. It is how you see it.
@ghfsd786fa
@ghfsd786fa 3 сағат бұрын
Max getting bashed in the comments is wild. Dude is just racing; if it’s an illegal move is the FÍA whole have to call it, period.
@Suicidalsheep
@Suicidalsheep 4 сағат бұрын
Can’t hear him all the way back
@mo1uh
@mo1uh 4 сағат бұрын
He already forgot Copse Corner '21.. We still cry 🥲
@Spyk27632
@Spyk27632 4 сағат бұрын
He just did that to prove a point,take out max bcoz he doesn't listen,Max think his some track god that everyone must give way to
@paulsheridan291
@paulsheridan291 4 сағат бұрын
He had enough of Max, who paid the price for being aggressive. Simple.
@bruceviv2003
@bruceviv2003 4 сағат бұрын
Max got what was coming , I think he'll get more by the way things are going
@mo1uh
@mo1uh 4 сағат бұрын
@@paulsheridan291 Hammie paid the price.. Karma in Abu Dhabi!
@BETAsin
@BETAsin 4 сағат бұрын
got a penalty and still won. Next.
@chrisc3825
@chrisc3825 Сағат бұрын
Sir Lewis
@BoStanfordify
@BoStanfordify 4 сағат бұрын
he is right
@BlackL0tus1992
@BlackL0tus1992 4 сағат бұрын
Maybe Lewis should remember Silverstone. Dude cant race wheel for wheel. Last he got cucked was by Rosberg.
@goldenduck854
@goldenduck854 4 сағат бұрын
7-1
@WBO-lp3cp
@WBO-lp3cp 3 сағат бұрын
7
@BlackL0tus1992
@BlackL0tus1992 3 сағат бұрын
@@goldenduck854 irrelevant for 4 years now
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Сағат бұрын
@@goldenduck854 2014-2021 Mercedes was the biggest cheating opration of alltime.
@Vinarosz
@Vinarosz Сағат бұрын
Cry baby. And you did a great job at COTA
@gseric4721
@gseric4721 3 сағат бұрын
And that, ladies and gents, is racecraft. Sir Lewis spitting facts, here, but I have to disagree with him saying _all_ of the younger generation drivers have this flaw. Charles and Lando both do not use this tactic when they are put under pressure intentionally, and in my opinion, they both have better overall *_racecraft_* than Max, though in terms of pure outright pace, Max has the edge over the two more times than not.
@rosek7114
@rosek7114 3 сағат бұрын
LMAOOOOO. Yeah we really saw that racecraft from Norris when he was trying to pass Max by making the same move 20 times, whilst Max showed him a masterclass in defending. Go back to watching DTS.
@gseric4721
@gseric4721 3 сағат бұрын
@@rosek7114 I will never watch DTS :) Sorry, I'm not a bandwagon like you most likely are, lol.
@rosek7114
@rosek7114 2 сағат бұрын
@@gseric4721 Love how of all the things I said the DTS part is all you replied to... lol
@BrunoSantos-zy2fu
@BrunoSantos-zy2fu 3 сағат бұрын
real my goat
@gentnextdoor
@gentnextdoor 4 сағат бұрын
It's actually not that complicated.... FIA are weak
@MeltingRubberZ28
@MeltingRubberZ28 4 сағат бұрын
Lewis getting flashbacks of 30+ track limits violations to win Bahrain and crashing into Max at Silverstone to try and win his...
@stijnrousch4319
@stijnrousch4319 4 сағат бұрын
tha is a gross exaggeration... he only had 28 track limits haha
@B88_f
@B88_f 4 сағат бұрын
Jedda 2021 was another one, think max did it twice against Lewis in that race then brake tested him later on!
@killianpotworoska3096
@killianpotworoska3096 4 сағат бұрын
That is how the greats of the earth drive and fight, sir Lewis:-) And that is exactly why you were also defeated by Max Verstappen even in a lesser car! A Senna and Michael Schumacher also always got those reproaches from the losers. And that is also exactly the reason why sir Lewis Hamilton is never mentioned by the professionals in that row of Senna, Schumacher and Verstappen!
@Taylor___
@Taylor___ 4 сағат бұрын
You just let Max hit you every time. He’ll soon stop doing it
@BlibbertyBlobberty
@BlibbertyBlobberty 3 сағат бұрын
Lulu talking like he gets into any meaningful battles anymore.
@Selendeki
@Selendeki Сағат бұрын
What should we do about the way Lewis plays bumper cars? I've never seen Max do anything similar to the frequency Lewis does it.
@Don-Royall
@Don-Royall 4 сағат бұрын
I personally don't want a rule change, because what Max did to Lewis was far worse, in Brazil, Jeddah and about 4 other races. He had all 4 tyres off the track, now he even keep one tyre on track yet Lando fans are crying.
@_qwe_fk_1700
@_qwe_fk_1700 3 сағат бұрын
"about 4 other races" - name them
@markf5437
@markf5437 4 сағат бұрын
What happened to the rule about leaving enough space for another car?
@6MaxSix6
@6MaxSix6 4 сағат бұрын
That applies to civilied motorsports like the GT series, depressingly the FIA have rules that don't insist on this so no such rule in F1. What really shows it up for me is that top sim racers like Jarno Opmeer in F1 Esports do their best to leave that room. Even sim drivers who's health and wellbeing isn't in danger if they crash race in a reasonable and fair fashion.
@stijnrousch4319
@stijnrousch4319 4 сағат бұрын
the problem lies with the way the rules are written. according to these rules if you are defending your position and get to the apex of the corner before the driver who's attacking you, then the corner is yours. apparently this means that you don't even have to make the corner yourself. now looking at the incident between max and Norris. max saw that Norris had a run on him and he moved to the inside. this wouldn't have been enough so he released the brake, shooting him into the corner and getting to the apex before Norris, which means that he was allowed to run Norris of the track and even go off the track himself. I agree that these rules are not what we F1 fans want but at the moment they're the rules we got. the fault lies at the FIA. you cannot blame max for what he did because he did everything within the rules. I too want the Fia to change the rules because this isn't fun the watch. but again, it is not verstappen his fault
@sMooVe1982
@sMooVe1982 4 сағат бұрын
That only applies if both cars are leveled at the apex of a corner. The rules as they are now are written so that if the car on the inside is ahead on the apex, it's that car's corner and that car can be placed wherever you want to place it. No need to leave any space since the car which isn't behind at the corner doesn't have any right to it.
@I-Niemand-I
@I-Niemand-I 3 сағат бұрын
Ask Rosberg
@richardvi
@richardvi 2 сағат бұрын
So good to see that Lewis, immediately after his rookie-retirement, found the time to put in three earrings, two nose rings, two necklaces and probably some other jewellery and still found time to criticize the way others drive. Respect.
@kaveeshakarunaratne8961
@kaveeshakarunaratne8961 2 сағат бұрын
Nearly 90% of the drivers and all of the TPs spoke against the FIA and Max. The VCARB drivers too. Its impossible to race properly with this '1st to the apex can do anything he wants' logic.
@richardvi
@richardvi Сағат бұрын
Have you ever raced yourself? Overtaking your opponent outside is always, always a risk. If your opponent holds his racing line, you will always end up off the track. And you are entitled to hold the racing line, if you are on the inside, and ahead, it's your corner to take. If Max would have just stayed in between the lines, the result for Lando would have been exactly the same: off the track. It's part of defending to keep the inside line, and yes, this makes it more difficult to overtake. Which is the point of defending. It has always been like this in racing. Now imagine a rule change in which the right of way would be granted to the car on the outside. The next thing to do then is to make sure you are always the one to brake the latest and if your opponent on the inside holds the racing line, you can always say you were blocked. Take the Max-Lando move from last week. There's no way we can say for 100% sure that Lando would have made the corner at that speed. It could be that Lando also was to late with braking and went off the track. It can not be known, as Max was blocking the corner. We have to assume Lando would have made the corner, but that assumption would leave a massive hole in the regulations if this rule would be changed. To summarize: Overtaking a car on the outside can only be done if you have past the car before the apex. If you have not done this, you will always risk getting pushed wide and need to back out of the move. Try your luck elsewhere, preferably a place where you can manage to get on the inside of a corner.
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Сағат бұрын
@@richardvi Agreed. Somehow other driver DO manage to overtake. It's a skill issue for Lando. Let's not blame the rules and the drivers that drive consistent with these rules.
@VjRj84
@VjRj84 4 сағат бұрын
Its so simple...The only driver with common sense it seems, meanwhile max´s delusional fanboys think its a beautiful behavior; despicable.
@19anilam
@19anilam 4 сағат бұрын
Oh the irony of calling someone delusional while being delusional 🤣 do yourself a favor, set brain to ON and listen to what he says again, it's not that complicated....
@Suicidalsheep
@Suicidalsheep 4 сағат бұрын
If anyone is delusional it’s Lewis fanboys holy hell
@tuna5618
@tuna5618 4 сағат бұрын
lewis literally worships senna who was 10X as aggressive as max. Champions race hard.
@Don-Royall
@Don-Royall 4 сағат бұрын
​@@tuna5618The lies Max fans tell themselves.
@Don-Royall
@Don-Royall 4 сағат бұрын
​@@tuna5618please apart from Senna incident with prost can you mention those crazy moments.
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