S&W Bodyguard 2.0 in .380 - Disappointed...

[@MDpolo]

From the 15:20 minute mark till the end you can see the main reason for my disappointment.

[@beetarun]

I just tried one at my local gun shop yesterday; I did not notice any issues with the spring. Both guns in stock were harder to rack than I thought; but the one I took apart I was able to put back together quickly. I expected the magazine to be hard to break in but two your 12 rounder is very disappointing. Best of luck; hope to see another video when you get the new parts.

[@stevekatz4372]

I'm 80 years old and I had no problem at all seeing my front sight and I did not have any carbon build up on the sight! I did have trouble getting that 12th round in the mag but that did not bother me! My 2.0 was very accurate with very little recoil and I shot about 250 rounds so far. I have some nerve damage in my hands and fingers, so I had a little difficult time racking the slide but I was able to take it apart for cleaning! I have had No Issues with this gun and I bought it for my EDC, which I have started to do! I shoot once every week at my LGR and at my age, I just practice shooting for self defense and I find that this gun will serve this purpose for Me!

[@MDpolo]

That is awesome that it’s working for you. Makes me happy. Thank you so much for watching.

[@warrenrosen132]

Didn't lock back because your grip is shit.

[@theblackdog2399]

@@MDpolo There are videos with other Bodyguard 2.0 owners experiencing the same problem you are experiencing. However, those same people did new updated videos showing the very easy fixes for both those same exact issues. Afterwards, they subsequently said it was the best small pistol they ever owned.

[@mikemc1114]

I have had no issues with my Bodyguard 2.0 .380. Love it.

[@jlam3927]

You ever take an hour to put a recoil spring back in?

[@larryziemba2216]

Take the follower out of the 12 round mag and clip the small point off the bottom front. When you use the Uplula the follower wants to twist a bit and that point on the follower hangs up in the magazine hole that’s cut for the mag release button. If you load the 3round by hand you can finish loading with the Uplula. Clip that tip off and problem fixed.

[@MDpolo]

I tried by hand and I could not load a third round no matter how hard I tried.

[@TADDs101]

You are exactly right

[@richcarlson887]

I have the same issue thx.

[@jmichna1]

Yep! Use a very sharp, sturdy knife to trim off the tip of the "tooth" on the front left of the follower... bevel it so the "pointy end" doesn't snag on the mag hole. You can use a file to bevel that edge too.

[@MDpolo]

Yes, I thank you very much for your comment. I did a follow up video explaining my findings and fixes.

[@rushthezeppelin]

Almost 1k rounds and I don't have an issue with the front sight being dirty, I do wish the front sight was neon green. I did have the sight alignment issue but fixed it up with a drift. Mags broke in to where I could load the twelfth by hand.

[@timgormley7197]

Any tips for drifting the front sight? I tried a sight pusher and a punch and neither worked.

[@BigChungdog]

I've had mine for just over a week, and it has been flawless. Nice pocket gun for sure.

[@MDpolo]

I’m glad you got a good one! Thank you for watching.

[@quoththeraven7]

I got that gun over a week ago, and I was having the same exact issue you was having with the recoil spring. but I forced it back in. as far as the 12 round magazine it got really hard to put that last round in with my uplula. but I got it to work. The 10 rounder is no problem. when shooting it, everything seems to work itself out. To me, it recoils like a 22. lovely! I love the gun for what I got it for. jogging, bike riding and power walking. What I don't love is the price! That's a lot of money for 380.

[@MDpolo]

It was a decent shooting experience.

[@VroomNPew]

I cannot get my spring back in for the life of me, and the round part that seats into the barrel is now super bent and have not even fired it yet. All the way up at the front of the guide rod where it's supposed to go into the slide, the spring seems to be overlapping up front which doesn't let the front part of the guide rod seat into the front of the slide. I asked Smith & Wesson for a replacement guide rod and spring. I also couldn't get around to seat into the barrel all the way, and upon dry fire my trigger was super heavy.

[@marcwilson4003]

​@@VroomNPewis it possible to compress the recoil spring in a c clamp or vice?

[@VroomNPew]

​​@@marcwilson4003 yes, but the round part that seats into the barrel is bent, as if someone else before I received it tried to use some tools. Either that or it bent just running the slide by hand a few times. The other odd things that the spring on the other end where it needs to seat into the slide is poking out and flush with the end, so it gets in the way when trying to insert the small and into the slide. I went to a store and they disassembled theirs, and the guide rod compressed very easily and the spring did not extend out into that area and was easily installed. Smith & Wesson is sending me another guide rod and spring, and I hope it fixes my really heavy trigger issues as well. The gun I tried at the store had a great trigger compared to mine. Maybe the slide was being held in a slightly wrong position. I really don't want to have to send the whole thing back in, but it's likely going to happen.

[@Mollari23]

@@marcwilson4003 Really shouldn't be necessary. Something is clearly wrong. Mine comes out easily, hold in place fine.

[@richardjohnson4238]

If you look at the end of the guide rod, and fine the end of the spring. On mine it wasn't under the plug flange. I took a screwdriver and slipped it under the flange, and the recoil spring assembly pops right back in, no problem. I say I "found" it, actually there is a thread on the Smith and Wesson forum where the problem is talked about and one of the posters there spoke of it. He has pictures there that show what to look for, but seriously once I figured that out, no more problems. The magazines are loosening up as I've used them. I still use a mag loader, but I'm an old man with arthritic thumbs. I might be able to get those last rounds in but it's pretty painful. That's why they make mag loaders. :) I just took a sight pusher to my rear sight. I didn't go far so it will have to wait until the next range trip to see if it helped. Good review though.

[@gregb6469]

I'd like to read that. Where is this S&W forum?

[@RidersRange]

I was actually looking forward to adding this gun to my ".380 Thursday" series, but not now. You saved me $400. Thanks. I'll be watching for your Part 2, once you get everything back from Smith.

[@toadranger50]

@@RidersRange watch the 100’s of other reviews.

[@mike34744]

Buy it it’s the best pocket gun out there.

[@RidersRange]

@@Pler1978 many other reviewers get free guns and even cash to review their guns, so they don't dare offend anyone for fear of cutting off that supply and income. I know that MD Polo isn't supported by any gun manufacturer, so I trust his reviews 100%. That doesn't mean I'll never buy the Bodyguard .380, it just means that I'll wait until I see how Smith responds.

[@RidersRange]

@@toadranger50 I have. See my response to the reply to this comment stream by @Pier1978.

[@RidersRange]

@@mike34744 "best" is subjective. I'll wait to see how Smith responds to the issues that MDpolo raised.

[@tickedoff1438]

You know what's disappointing? Firing your Glock 19 gen 4, and having the leaf spring snap in two, and dropping your slide to the firing lane floor. Things happen, you correct and move on.

[@Quantiples]

I’ve had mounting screws for optics snap, battery compartment screw fly off along with the battery, safety disconnect bar snapping leading to dead trigger, springs snap in half and these were on Sigs and S&W mostly.

[@Three60Crusader]

Rare negative video on the bodyguard. Nice to see another perspective. Can’t wait to get mine.

[@MDpolo]

I filmed a follow up video explaining what the issues are and how I fixed them. If you take a look at the comment section, you will see a plethora of viewers experiencing the same issues that I described. I appreciate you taking the time to stop by.

[@moore4615]

I don't buy new production firearms. I really like the look of the Bodyguard, but I"'m going to wait at least a year or more before buying. Cheers everyone.

[@MDpolo]

Cheers and thank you for stopping by.

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

Everyone said the LCP MAX was good on KZbin and I got a bunch of problems when I got mine, even with replacment slide assembly from Ruger. I eventually fixed all problems and have had 250+ FMJ and 30+ Hornady CD without issue Edit and then my LCP just broken, the sear broke, which wasn't modified or related to previous issues.

[@_cal_techie]

After an engineering career in manufacturing companies I agree. The marketing and management folks push engineers to release products before all the bugs have been worked out. So some products will have issues. Rev 2 will solve 90% of the problems but may create other problems. Rev 3 will solve 99% of the problems. The public will never know when the company makes these changes. I will wait for 1 year before buying any newly released product.

[@mt-nv4jd]

All the stores around me are awaiting the shipment of the new batch from the factory. Hopefully SW will address the issues with the guide rod, the 12rd mag, and front sight alignment.

[@Sparkyflr]

I own a BG2.0 and I agree with you. I had no idea it was such a new model and wished I'd waited for all the bugs to be fixed

[@888armadillo]

I have just received my new Bodyguard 2 and I can't rack the slide more than 3/4". The spring is just way too strong. I sent an Email to S&W asking them to send me a weaker spring but they said to go to Wolf and see if they have one. If they send me a new spring I can weaken it and try again.

[@tombazemore1098]

I bought mine last week and almost gave up on it because of the guide rod spring issue and I could not rack it bare handed. I had to use a glove to prevent the front sight from bruising my left hand. I have since left the slide locked back since Monday and it is getting better. Hope to put some rounds down range this week.

[@investinfastudios]

Me too. Kind of disappointed in the gun.

[@tombazemore1098]

@@investinfastudios I now have over 300 rounds through it with three range sessions. It’s much easier to rack. I no longer leave it in the locked position. I do leave the magazines fully loaded. It doesn’t really like my hand loads much resulting in average accuracy, but with factory ammo and especially defensive ammo, the accuracy at 7 or so yards is more than enough for defensive purposes. I do like shooting my P365-380 better. But I’m carrying the BG2.0 because of the size and weight benefits.

[@investinfastudios]

@@tombazemore1098 Thats good to know. Thank you for sharing your experience.

[@marinelaw]

Yours was the first review of dozens I watched that was less than a stellar review. That made me very interested in watching. Also I have one, only about 200 rounds thru and i had a problem feeding hollow pount and flat nose fmj. Reddit has documented the feeding problems extensively. Overall, I like it. My recoil spring is tight but gave me no problem. My pistol is more accurate than yours. You got a lemon. Every company can put out a lemon, you got one. Two weeks was a bit long for the new parts to come from S&W. They should have rushed it. Good job on the honest review.

[@MDpolo]

Thank you very much. I appreciate your words and that you took the time to watch.

[@GeorgeMoilanen]

Yes, there have been a few product launch problems: Mostly sight alignment and Mag issues. Both mnnor problems, The basic functioning of the gun has been stellar, Most of the thousands of guns sold work perfectly and make it by far the best small 380 every built. Mine has over a 1000 rounds of a wide variety of ammo thru it without a failure.. Accuracy is super for a small pistol. Trigger is nice with clean break. Super size for concealed carry, I could go on. Just read the reviews.

[@TheRealPuddlez]

I only have a fraction of the rounds thru my BG2.0 but will say it is perfect for the gun that it is! I wanted a pocket pistol to carry when I didn’t have a belt on. In other words a gun to have when I otherwise wouldn’t carry ie gym shorts, quick runs etc. but the innovation is why I own this gun. Specifically a 380 auto, which I also told myself- I wouldn’t carry anything less than a 9mm. I still carry my 9’s when clothing permits but now I have this awesome little dude for when I’m not carrying something heavy. Pics and vids do no justice for this gun i have a shield plus sized down from a g19 and this bg2.0 blew me away.!

[@jacksavage7808]

Mine ejects the magazine while shooting even I intentionally keep the magazine release clear. Stovee pipes at times.

[@mulder4528]

Same here, no problems at all with a variety of ammunition types runs fine, trigger is great for what it is. No issues with carbon on sight? As to the magazines the first couple of times I loaded them to capacity they were tight but loosened up fairly quickly. My front sight was off a touch a couple of taps with an aluminum punch and good to go elevation was fine. Very pleased for what it is and its intended use so far.

[@jacksavage7808]

Will be trading it in on anything else. Range partner had is come back and is again going back. Please be careful. Mine has been at S&W for 6 weeks.

[@jacksavage7808]

@@mulder4528 Really happy yours worked out. Been 6 weeks and no word yet on mine. Range tool going back a 2nd fix.

[@ronnieboardman1673]

I just picked one up. Unfortunately, no gun is perfect for everyone, especially when it comes to these tiny micros. I haven't had any of the issues you're experiencing. I'm extremely happy with mine. The magazines are extremely hard to get the last one in, but I did it by hand with some effort. Load them up and store them full over a little use they should get easier. Every micro double stack I own is the same way it's just the nature of squeezing all that capisity into that small of a package , have patience and try to put in as much range time as you can , it should get better. I appreciate anyone who takes the time to review guns it helps me alot good or bad you learn from them.

[@maxhames499]

Love mine. Sights were off quick fix. No issues and its accurate. Dont be scared to buy one.

[@timgormley7197]

Any tips for drifting the front sight? I've tried a sight pusher and a punch but neither worked.

[@maxhames499]

@timgormley7197 hammer and punch worked for me

[@markdalton8333]

I had the recoil spring not want to go in one time but I figured it out. The end has to be perfectly centered in the slide. The tolerance is very tight. It it won’t go, just rotate it 180 degrees and it goes right in. On the magazine issue, I use an Uplula to get the last 3 or 4 rounds in. It’s the same on the 10 and 12 round magazine. Super tight for sure but I can do it. My trigger tests at 4.5 pounds but feels heavier because of its small size. The dingus is almost as wide as the trigger itself so I’m not sure if it is serving it’s intended purpose. And mine shoots low left as well.

[@Dafarnakis]

you have to rotate the recoil spring around the hole in the slide until you find the sweet spot. Mine does this too and its hard to get the spring in but it will go if you find the exact right spot. Also i had to move my front site way over to the left to make it shoot accurate. hope this helps

[@Truth-f2q]

Hickhok45..... I LOVE this Ruger MAX. ........ then the 2.0 comes out, I love this 2.0... its so much better than the MAX...... LOL

[@Vysedragon]

He got one from Buds and bought one for himself shortly after. He loves it

[@neiljohnson6815]

I bought the bodyguard 2.0 several months ago. I've shot 4-500 rounds through it with no problems. I have also field stripped and reassembled it several times for cleaning. It is a great little pistol.

[@OfficialBartNash]

I just got mine, and I do love it. For me, it's the perfect concealed-carry weapon, and I'm really enjoying the gun's narrow width. I don't have the 12-round magazine yet, and I do find it hard to load the 10th round, but it gets easier and easier the more rounds you load into your magazine. All and all I think it's a great choice as a personal carry weapon.

[@markrichard2349]

Had to take mine to FFL gunsmith, He was a big strong guy with beefy hands and had a rough time reinstalling guide rod spring, I’m have small hands and can’t do it. Back to Glock 42 380

[@MDpolo]

I never had any issues with my Glock 42.Any. Thank you for stopping by.

[@yourmomma2995]

out of all the BG 2.0 vids i have watched you are the only one that mentioned the small trigger guard. thanks for that info.

[@MDpolo]

You’re welcome! Thank you for watching.

[@quartamile]

1. Have you contacted S&W about inability to load the last round in the mags? Some folks say the mag springs relax after leaving then loaded for a few days/weeks, same with the recoil spring by leaving it locked back for a while. 2. Any failures related to the feed ramp that several owners need to polish? 3. Any solutions for reinstalling the recoil spring yet? Thanks for sharing! Bless

[@MDpolo]

I have a video with an update coming shortly.

[@coquicycles3502]

I just shot the gun this weekend for the 1st time and it was absolutely like butter in my Big hands with 3-4 in groupings at 12 feet. I was very impressed and yes very light recoil. Will be ordering mine this week. Sorry you did not have a good initial experience however, we are all grateful that there are a bunch of options for all to find a fit.

[@MDpolo]

I hope you get a good one. Strongly suggest you watch the follow-up video that l uploaded.

[@hansgruber6381]

There was another vid showing problems with his new bodyguard too wondering if this is a qc issue.

[@sinusguy]

Just purchased one today at Carmel store on my way to South Bend from Indianapolis. Love it..

[@deere3321]

Smith is sending me 2 new mags and guide rod as well. The front end of the guide rod spring was starting to come off of the rod. Until I get mey new one I was able to snip off the end of the spring. Now it works fine. If you can only get 2 rounds in it's because the follower catches on the holes at the top of the mag. You can trim off a corner of the follower to fix it. I understand your frustration but I love shooting mine so much compared to any other pocket 380 that I'm fine with the issues as long as they are taken care of.

[@oscarbear7498]

What did you tell them in your email? Did you have to send pictures of just tell them. Seem it's so common they just sent another mag to deal with it lol

[@801guitar3]

My guide rod/recoil spring was like that too. I got a new one sent to me as well.

[@jamesbroughton7870]

You’re right about the front metal first coil on the spring it has to get in that pocket exactly right and then you can get the spring put in I’m going to using a pair of soft Jaw channel locks every time you shouldn’t have to do that but it does work. But Smith & Wesson really should’ve discovered that before they sent it out into the world. Also on the magazine I was having trouble getting past the third round on the 12 round magazine because I was using a loader Smith & Wesson told me to Handload the first three to the follower gets past that first opening in the magazine and the rest you can use the loader because it follower catches on that opening in the magazine. I took my magazine apart and filed a little tip of that follower off and now it works fine no matter how I wanna load it every time but that’s another thing they should’ve figured out

[@BAdventures]

Appreciate your honesty. They really need to improve QC.

[@brianmaddy6713]

I had the same problem with the recoil spring. Look at the end of the spring where it fits into shroud. The end of the spring slips over the end of the rod and causes the spring not to be compressed. Reposition the end of the spring underneath under the round top. It should work just fine. Good luck. They are sending me another spring as well. The spring is slightly too larger for the housing in the shroud.

[@MDpolo]

Yes thank you that’s exactly what’s going on.

[@gregb6469]

Sounds like the 2.0 pistol needs a 2.0 recoil spring. There is no excuse for it being so difficult to reinstall.

[@jamesbroughton7870]

When I first got mine I was shooting left also but as I’ve shot it more and more without adjusting I just still keep it on the center I’m starting to get better groups I think it’s because that width between the two back post is so wide if you don’t get that center post equal height and equal light you’re gonna shoot to the left that was my experience. The magazines are very hard to load but they get better over time. I love mine it’s my new carry Gun

[@fpav4049]

I want one and was able to rent one at the PSA indoor Range. It shoots a bit left but shoots pretty good. I noticed the spent case primers had firing pin drag on them. Every one of the 50rounds of Blazer brass. UPDATE! I picked mine up today and the recoil spring did the same thing. Can't wait to put some rounds thru it to loosen it up a bit. The 12 round mag is really an 11-round mag.

[@EducatedBlackMan]

I bought the LCP Max two years ago and replaced the trigger with the Siguard, putting in a 13-pound spring and a stainless steel guide rod. Those modifications reduced recoil and ended the trigger pinch. I never had any malfunctions and with the upgrade, I carry Underwood Xtreme Defender +P, XTP +P, and Defiant Munitions TCX ammo for EDC. The technological advances in ammo and the concealability of the 380 makes it popular. I like the Bodyguard but since I am satisfied with the Max I don't see the need to replace it.

[@frenzy2223]

I didn’t have the issue with the recoil spring or mag, but I have seen others on KZbin with the same issues.

[@Muddslinger0415]

I can see the sight just fine you are the one person out of hundreds I have watched that was negative! I’m going with majority and buying one, it will be here next week can’t wait

[@bc_usa]

You won't be disappointed. I bought one 2 days ago and put over 300 rounds no problem. I also have a G42 but the S&W 2.0 sits in my pocket. It's now my EDC when I dont carry my G43X.

[@Wooduck]

Look at the spring at the end of the barrel. The spring is on top of the end of the guide rod end. Take a small tool and push the very end of the spring under the front lip of the guide rod, problem solved.

[@monarchpixels]

Same issue with recoil spring, mag now working! Issue with recall spring is there a like C clamp on the end where it goes into the front of the gun that’s protruding if you manipulate it you can’t get it back in place and that might help your problem.

[@ReelGuyTv]

Just got one yesterday. Haven't shot it yet but mostly positive feedback on that I'm not expecting issues. By hand I was able to load 11 rounds into the 12 round mag. I actually made a dent into the brass casing trying to get that 12th round in there. I ordered a mag loader just for that 12th round. This is the first time I felt like I needed one in 20 years of shooting guns. lol I had no issues with disassembly and reassembly. Went seamless. That recoil spring is tight but what do you expect with this small of a gun? The market has been wanting a gun like this for years and somebody finally made it happen. Hopefully after a couple hundred rounds things will loosen up.

[@BeardedDad91]

I'm a new gun owner and never had any issues with it. Mags were stiff but worked fine. No issues with the recoil spring and no feeding issues like others have had.

[@denizenofclownworld4853]

So what? Comments like this are worthless.

[@donaldramey1896]

​@@denizenofclownworld4853It's good to hear that problems are not pervasive. What's your problem troll?

[@donaldramey1896]

​@@denizenofclownworld4853It's good to hear that problems are not pervasive. What's your problem troll?

[@johnbourgault4487]

My 12 round mag was the same way. Only fit two rounds no matter how hard i tried. I realized that the follower in the mag was getting hung up on one of the holes on the side of the mag. I also had 3 light primer strikes, and 3 failure to eject and have only put 200 rounds through it. 1 failure to eject made it so the casing and the follow up round would get bound up, and the other 2 stovepiped. I Was really excited about this pistol too, I love my shield plus.

[@pastorofmuppets1968]

When I load a single round in the chamber and release the slide it wont go all the way into battery and the guide rod is sticking a quarter inch out. Never had that happen before.

[@John-ce1lk]

Please read your Manual on field stripping. You do not have to dry fire nor should you to remove slide during strip down. You push down on ejector pg 30 fig 55, then the slide slides off. I found my recoil spring is much easier to remove and reinsert approaching from the side rather than from the top as I could see you struggling with. Only takes a few seconds approaching from the side. My BG 2.0 has been great with 200 rd FMJ round nose so far. Next will be FMJ flat nose then JHP for my EDC. Heard some 2.0's having issues with flat nose and certain FMJ, I'll see. My barrel ramp looked polished from the factory so maybe they fixed that reported issue. My front sight was visually way off right from factory, shooting left. Nothing what a brass punch didn't take care of. How was your front sight centered? Hope you get things worked out and enjoy your 2.0 like I do. Thanks for your time in making this video.

[@MDpolo]

Thank you very much. I truly appreciate your lengthy comment. If you have a moment, please take a look at my follow up video where describing detail what the issues were. Thank you and God bless.

[@Goldenwithaleash]

Thanks for the honest review. I was looking at one to replace my wife’s G42.

[@kevinrichardson8859]

Why do you want to replace her Glock 42? I have both...curious

[@bigred675]

Good honest review, thank you.

[@Brad-ic4bp]

I recently got one for myself and love it - no issues (I disassembled amd assembled it fine). I loved my Ruger LCP Max before this, and now I hate it by comparison to the Bodyguard 2.0.

[@Tonyhodges33]

The gun looks great but I have seen no reason to replace my LCP Max. It looks like Smith just shrunk a larger gun down not considering the trigger guard being too small. The LCP functions perfectly for its intended use and has never been considered arranged toy or Target gun. Even the sights are better!

[@roadking681]

Yup, Love my LCP Max. My brother bought this M&P 380 2.0 a month ago and he's having the same problems. He let me shoot it at the range and it shot nice but the LCP Max conceals better cus its significantly smaller and the trigger guard on the LCP Max is nice and large and fits my motorcycle gloves with ease. The trigger guard on the SWBG is too small for my MC gloves its definitely a no go for me as well.

[@joanortega37]

I have both and the LCP Max is taking a permanent seat in my safe. Pretty much the same size but the 2.0 is so much more pleasant to shoot. Looks nicer too imo

[@redterror2140]

I have 2 LCP maxes, both are less than 100% reliable; 1 is 90%, other is a jammomatic 50%

[@stevemackey1]

“Im really disappointed, so I immediately went out and bought one.”

[@SafeC-u1u]

At 22:06 you said you got a two round capacity magazine?

[@MDpolo]

Hello. Yes, I did say that. The reason I said it is because of the issues with the magazine, it was absolutely impossible to load more than two rounds. I did a follow up video explaining what the issue was and how I fixed it. Thank you for stopping by.

[@Quantiples]

For anyone making this purchase, take a close look at the sights before shooting. Mine were severely off to the left. Luckily I have the tools to fix it.

[@MDpolo]

I’m hearing that as well.

[@kevinrichardson8859]

Mine is shooting slightly to the left...what tools did you use to remedy the problem??

[@Quantiples]

@ small mallet and brass punch. I have the Real Avid Pin Punch Set & Hammer + Non-Slip Magnetic Bench Block. I use it all the time to disassemble firearms.

[@kevinrichardson8859]

@Quantiples ok thanks

[@residualkarma]

I have not many problems. The main thing is that it seems to shoot low left. Your magazine issues have been addressed online. Easy fix. A tighter slide and spring translate to more accuracy but less reliability. That problem will resolve itself the more you shoot the pistol. Just keep the slide/frame rails lubed.

[@scottrichards4399]

Same problems plus the mag release was very difficult to operate and the safety was almost impossible. I sent it back to the factory. They were very understanding and returned the pistol with all issued corrected in 2 1/2 wks. Quality control has been struggling the last two years on their new release pistols.

[@MDpolo]

I’m glad they fixed it for you. Thank you very much for stopping by.

[@tomfee130]

Same issue with the recoil spring….

[@dpatrick5164]

I have seen at least 2 video reviews where the trigger was measured several times with the average being in the 3 1/2 range. So i don't think yours is far off. They seemed to not be surprised, so I'm assuming it's nowhere near the 10, if that is what S&W is listing. BG 1.0 is full double action and measures in around 10. But the 2.0 must be much lighter. That is one thing that concerned me in a pocket pistol, if it really is that light.

[@peterraab3411]

What is the best grain weight bullet and fps?

[@01rider76]

Shot one for the first time today. POA was way off from factory. Had to aim high right. It shoots low left.

[@MDpolo]

I’m hearing that quite a bit.

[@scottmason7654]

Improper assembly is the likely reason. Make sure the guide rod spring is correctly seated before assembly.

[@MDpolo]

Hello. I posted a follow up video on this. Improper assembly was not the culprit. Thank you for watching!

[@RC_stuff]

Perhaps something wrong with your mag - I have two 12 round mags and hand load 12 rounds without any problems. Also, did not have any problems with the slide locking....

[@D-A-1776]

Best 380 on the marker. Beats the lcp max in every way. Mines been extremely reliable and accurate

[@MDpolo]

Glad to hear. Thanks for watching.

[@84themosthigh]

I’ve experienced no issues that youve stated guide rod comes out and back in. I don’t fool around with compressing it 12 round magazine I fit 11 but after a few reload, it holds 12 spring is just stiff and brand new feels great shoots better sights are awesome. Maybe im lucky or you got a bad one

[@inspectorman2018]

I have one of these little Bodyguard 2.0s and I know what your issue is with the guide rod. The spring is, in my opinion, not wound tight enough to keep the termination of the spring under the end of the guide rod. On mine, I can just use my fingernail to pop it back under the guide rod. Once it is "captured" under the guide rod it assembles without any problems. If it isn't captured its nearly impossible to assemble. I suspect you will have the same thing with the replacement guide rod/spring assembly. I also suspect if you understand what I am saying, look at yours, and mess with it you will see what I'm talking about. Hope this helps and keep up the good work!

[@johndomutz1052]

You're somewhat very late to the review party. Most of the early models shoot left and need the rear sight moved. Reinstalling the guide rod has been problematic for me. It needs to be carefully installed into the front hole first before it will set on the barrel notch. It gave me fits also This can take a few tries until you get it right. They sent me a new spring also, but it made no difference. For the mag, push down real hard without any rounds, and see if it will chip or shave off the part of the follower that is getting stuck. Admittedly, this should not be required in the first place, but is how I fixed the tight mag.

[@BooBahh-uh5jk]

Love mine, no issues

[@MDpolo]

I’m glad to hear that!

[@fpav4049]

Update from my last entry below. I E-mailed S&W about the spring problem, and they sent me another that does the exact same thing. S&W has a production problem with this 2.0 recoil spring IMO. I hope Galloway or Lakeline LLc. or another aftermarket company makes a good recoil spring for this gun. Just going to deal with it as is until then.

[@MDpolo]

They sent me a replacement spring as well. It took a month for it to arrive. It has the same problem as the first one.

[@MDpolo]

Smith & Wesson sent me a replacement which took a month to arrive. Regrettably, it has the same problem as the first one. They definitely have a quality control/production issue. Thank you so much for stopping by.

[@honda116969]

Badass 🔫!! My 🛡️+ 9mm 13 & 15 rd mags are hard to get into the gun fully loaded but it works just gotta push lol... I have the original bodyguard .380 i want this 2.0 but i have hardly have ammo for it. "Lehigh defense extreme defender" loaded by underwood ammo is the best in the business IMO only

[@WildmanDave]

I don't know where you get 10 lb trigger or 6 or 7. Everyone I've seen check it with a gauge said about four pound. Three different people.

[@GreyShooter]

I got mine a week before all the videos dropped. The mag springs are stiff, but I've had zero feed, fire or extraction issues. Accurate enough for what it is.

[@wildmontanan]

Send the whole gun back. Dont give up on it, it's an awesome firearm, best .380 on the market

[@MDpolo]

They won’t take it back. According to them, there’s nothing wrong with it.

[@fireyourrocketts]

Whoa! that is crazy! I own it and like it to replace my G42 . My mags load the rounds but not without difficulty even using the loader; in fact all of the MP I have have the same problem with their mags and to load a mag on the guns the slide needs to be opened or it wont lock in like it should, to load a mag with a slide closed you have to smack it from the plate; it does not feel natural at all. I have not shoot any of mine yet, trusting Smith and Wesson name but wont carry one until I do; I have disassembled mines with not issues but cant remember if I have with the bodyguard, too many problems for an otherwise very likable little gun. Hope what they send resolves your problems and you get to love it, one never know these days!

[@barryparker893]

When you install a disc into a cylender that are close in denension, if the disc is tilted the cross sectional demension is greater than the actual diameter. I sanded the burs off of the front of the spring rod. Now it goes in and out easy. I love my 2.0. Very accurate for a pocket rocket. Zero issues.

[@joeb1096]

You are the first reviewer of many I've seen to knock the pistol other than the front sight may need adjustment. I just picked one up but haven't shot it yet.

[@MDpolo]

I’m just giving you my honest and unbiased opinion. I’m not one of those channels that signed a five page contract with Smith & Wesson to receive a pistol. I give my honest opinions based on the handguns that I purchased with my own money.

[@605783]

Purchased new S&W Bodyguard 2.0 / 250 rounds of Fiocchi Range Dynamics 95 Gr FMJ / Both were accurate and 100% reliable / S&W BG shoots to the left and a little low (nothing that at 0-7 yards would impair accurate SD fire), however 8-15 yards it may, so be sure to come to the range ready to adjust your sights / Excellent balance between size, weight, power, and shootability / Very pleased

[@willwilliam217]

Thank you for your honest review. All I have mostly heard was positive reviews with lots of praise. I found one at the third store I checked, they had the safety and non safety models. Chose the safety and man was it hard to move. Since then I have lubricated and worked it on, off many times. It has loosened up where it will move but not accidentally engage when I decide to carry with it off. My lcp max has a mcarbo trigger kit in it. First two range comparison trips I was very disappointed that the lcp max had much tighter and more centered groups. This past week I shot it along with my beretta 92x performance. It was at a shorter distance at a black background target and I was impressed with its performance. It does feel better made than the lcp max.

[@ilmmoody]

That sucks that you’re having that experience. I’ve put several hundred through mine and it works perfectly fine.

[@Mike-4547]

I purchased the BG2.0 about a month ago did a two day test because I had to go to different GS to find the ammo I was looking for. First day ball ammo, flat nose and hollow points (brand unknown had them in a plastic bag) Day two box of Critical Defense, box of Hydra-Shok, box of Gold dot hollow points. I can honestly say not one issue from the ammo, prior to shooting it I did have to push the rear sight over to the right and cleaned it. As we all know 380 is a bit expensive but I had to spend the money to make sure it works when I need it and hopefully never.

[@mccannfamily...7652]

Please let us know how things work out. If you’re comfortable with gun smithing; I think opening the bore where the spring fits in should do it. Of course, why should anyone need to do this on a new S&W? Good luck.

[@robertkubrick3738]

It's interesting to see the social aspect of this. People bought into the paid for reviews so much that, even though they have to do gun smiting on their pistol, it's the best ever.

[@robertrossborough7206]

Great review. I’ve had same problems “Exactly “ ! Sent gun and 12 rd mag back to S&W. 4 weeks later got it back . Looks like they shaved or buffed end of recoil spring to narrow it? Still is near impossible to reassemble it. My guns manual safety was stuck in fire position, they freed that up, lots of marks like pliers were used. Poor repair work. I’m guessing they know the problems for they included 2 new mags. Not for the bodyguard but for a 9 mm shield plus??? Hmmmm I don’t own a shield plus? I’ve emailed them back, asking if they would care to try to repair my bodyguard again, offering to return the swell new shield mags. No reply after 10 days. Lots of reviews and many problems that seem to affect about 50% of all these guns. Wishing Glock would make a higher cap M42 pistol…… S&W sure failed us all with poor quality control and even worse quality repair too!!

[@chrisw3776]

The mag issue is probably the plastic of the follower getting stuck on the magazine body's cutout.

[@MDpolo]

I disassembled the magazine and took a look inside and nothing stood out at me that could be catching. I don’t know what it is.

[@TrollMeister-s6n]

@@MDpolo The follower leg on the non-windowed side of the mag needs to be (slightly) trimmed to avoid protruding through the mag seating hole when loading the third round on both the 12 and 10 round mags. The recoil spring can creep up over the front retaining ring, making it all but impossible to reassemble the recoil assembly back under the barrel. If one pulls the spring back behind the retainer, no problem. The stiffness of the springs will wear in with usage. I have 500 flawless rounds through mine and in spite of some initial hiccups, I highly recommend this model for deep carry. YMMV...

[@RidersRange]

@@TrollMeister-s6n this isn't the first issue Smith has had with mags on a new gun. The mags for my CSX were problematic, also.

[@TADDs101]

VERY easy fix !

[@bbazzracing]

​@@MDpolo Someone on reddit had this issue and he clipped the bottom points of the follower with a nail clipper. Problem solved

[@Bobsbargainbasement]

That’s one of one, I have one with 500+ rds trough it and only issue was I had to drift the front sight to center and now it shoots poa. Six types of ammo no issues. Sorry for you on that one

[@rbee914]

AND NOW "THE" ARBITER OF GUN REVIEWS: Too bad, so sad, na-na-na-na-na, my gun works and yours won't, SO THERE!!!

[@FillingPassports]

I have one with a manual safety. That safety is incredibly hard to engage and disengage. No chance of accidental engaging or disengaging.

[@brodydog8447]

I bought one about a month ago. Overall I like the gun, however I have the exact same problem with the recoil spring. I also had the same problem with loading the third round in the mag. The problem is the bottom of the follower gets hung up on the opening of the magazine. I just snipped off the little point of the follower with some nail clippers and it works great now. Both of my magazines were getting hung up on the third round. I still have a hard time installing the recoil spring.

[@kevinalexpeek4020]

Mine was good to go from the start. Cleaned and lubed before the first shots and works great.

[@chrisr8649]

So do I keep my lcp max 75th anniversary or trade in to this. I am a newbie gun owner

[@underthedrone2735]

To get the spring to fit back in, on the very end (site end) reseat the end of the spring and it will go right in. You could probably file that end into a taper as well. The mag issue is known and fixable but hopefully the new one is reworked. The follower catches on the mag release notch. You can grind or sand it down to fit and work properly. Some have simply forced it and broken off the piece that catches then works fine from that point on.

[@stevekatz4372]

Reseat the spring? This sounds very simple and I would try it but I can't figure out what "Reseat the Spring Means"!

[@underthedrone2735]

@@stevekatz4372 Push the very end of the spring back down. It won't be much of a move but it worked for me. Maybe someone will make a video of it or maybe S&W will send everyone a new spring setup.

[@rickrigsby7620]

The sent me a new guide rod- no springs and nothing on the barrel end to hold the springs on😡

[@MDpolo]

Incredible.

[@Deevel79]

I’ve been interested in this firearm, but I keep hearing and reading of issues with this handgun. I’ll keep my trusty Ruger LCP Max until the issues are worked out with this gun.

[@roadking681]

I'll keep my LCP Max and my Kahr CW 380 for many more reasons then that and never sell them, but if SW comes out with a 3.0 version of this gun with a bigger trigger guard and no issues, I'll then add it as a 3rd 380 to my collection and still keep the others. I'm a biker so my Motorcycle gloves have to fit thru the trigger guard especially my winter riding fleece lined gloves as well and they fit nicely thru my LCP Max because it has a nice large trigger guard. If I was u I'd never sell that LCP Max its a fantastic practical little gun.

[@talthan]

gee i love my S&W Bodyguard 2.0 with Hydra-Shok Deep 380 Auto 99 Grain rounds.

[@MrSteveb1]

Thanks for the negative review . Everyone else has been slobbering all over this pistol singing its praises . I bought one prior to seeing your review and I haven’t fired it yet . I’m having the same issue loading the 12th round and getting the guide rod back in just right was a pain for me. But it’s superior to my LCP max , just dry firing and feel in hand again not having fired it. Also FYI, shooting low left for a right handed shooter is almost always shooter caused . Thanks for the review .

[@JoeSheehan1]

I just field stripped mine for the first time. No problem disassembling or reinstalling the recoil spring/guide rod. You must have gotten a defective one. As for the 12 round magazines, there are videos of guys disassembling the magazine and trimming that little tab on the follower. I loaded the 2 rounds and saw where the follower was binding up on the mag. I just sliced off that little tab with an X-acto knife. Problem solved.

[@MDpolo]

Yes sir. I did a follow up video. Thank you so much for stopping by.

[@eliedlin9579]

I got one of these a month ago. Around 500 rounds through it none of these issues

[@MDpolo]

I’m glad you got a good one. Thank you for stopping by.

[@BillHimmel]

Interesting to hear a critical review after so much praise elsewhere!❤

[@MDpolo]

Just documenting my experience based on a sample of one through a 100% unbiased review. Thank you for stopping by.

[@almaadams3631]

Yes, most of us had some trouble aligning the recoil guide the first time. It seems to have become a non issue after the first time. We also had problems with our 12 round mags ( I could get 10 mine easily; the last 2 had to be "Lulaed" in. Most modern handguns seem to have teething problems. The Sig 365 was ridiculous, as well as the 320. S&W's 10mm. had feeding problems etc. All said and done: my BG 2.0 has had no failures and is extremely accurate and fast to shoot. It fires all the "exotic" stuff ( Underwood 65grn.+p ext defenders and 90grn.+ p HPs) to point of aim with control ( no milking or adjusting grip). As long as S&W keeps up customer service( 12 round mag returns), this pocket rocket will be a huge success.

[@888armadillo]

I had to send the gun back to S&W as they would not send me a spring. That was almost 3 weeks ago and they are sending it back to me and I should get it in 2 days (10-28). I hope they fixed it cause they didn't say what they did to it in the Email.

[@TheGunfighter45acp]

Thanks for bringing us this review! Your disappointment seems well founded. On a more positive note, I know you shoot there frequently, but I wasn't aware you were a BA for RUSA. That's outstanding! My wife & I have had a membership w/RUSA for a few years now, and their staff & customer service is fantastic! 👍👍

[@cheeng1]

Rotate the recoil spring assembly 1/8 rotation to seat, typical on small captured recoil springs. Micro pistols require better marksmanship.

[@MDpolo]

I posted a follow up video it shows exactly what the problems are and how they were fixed.

[@stevestone5671]

For me the G42 is a better shooter, but of course lacks the capacity; both will get the job done. Thanks for your insights.

[@terryoliver1410]

Personally this gun has met my every need and I’m a big handed guy. Pocket carry perfect. But like every marriage nothings perfect. If you want it to work well both parties usually have to clean up their act a little bit. The whole trick is not to get the mother-in-law involved. With marriage or your guns. I like the capacity even though the magazine is tight. But if you can’t get it done in nine or 10 rounds you really don’t have to worry about your future.Take the gun out on regular dates and your wife might even be happier because of it. Not to disparities your marriage but us guys need our time and so does your gun

[@MDpolo]

Well said. Thank you for watching.

[@robertjerrysimandlsr31]

Thank you, I had the same issue

[@rwprime1]

There's a video on youtube about what's causing the problem loading the third round. What's happening is the bottom of the orange follower is hitting (getting stuck) in that rectangular hole in the mag's metal housing. I'd just file the point a bit on that orange piece after disassembly but the host took some nail clippers to it. I think he cut off more than what was needed. Also, even if they send you a new recoil spring and rod, that doesn't mean it's going to fit in that end cap. It looks like there's an end cap there in your video. Please shine a light down in there and see if maybe it got bent over or damaged somehow. I would like one of these but I've seen videos of the 12 round mag swelling and un-insertable with the 11th and 12th round and another video where there's a ridge on the lower part (half) of the two-part feed ramp causing feed problems. I hope S&W gets these things worked out. It's odd, there's a ton of happy campers that have bought these with and without the manual safety.