Letting Go of a Brain-Dead Father | Chicago Med | MD TV

The Halstead brothers have to take the difficult decision of whether disconnecting their father or not after he becomes brain dead.
From Chicago Med Season 4 Episode 2 'When to Let Go' - Stella Kidd is rushed to the hospital with the possibility of losing one of her lungs, threatening to end her career; Dr. Manning treats a badly burned patient; Dr. Choi treats a patient from an apartment fire and is convinced that she had been beaten before the fire started.
Chicago Med (2015) The doctors and nurses who work at the emergency ward of the Gaffney Chicago Medical Center strive to save the lives of their patients while dealing with personal and interpersonal issues.
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[@joewhitehead3]

Jay still clearly loved his father, in spite of how frustrating his father could be

[@motherthorns]

Trust me, sometimes someone dying actually brings love back, regardless of how you felt about that person in life.

[@gore0802]

Him blaming his brother Will was so unfair and hateful though.

[@joewhitehead3]

@@motherthorns That’s terrible that that’s what it takes sometimes

[@joewhitehead3]

@@gore0802 He was just spouting off

[@EternalAmmonite]

​@@gore0802 Don't take to heart words said in grief. No matter how true they may feel in the moment.

[@ivisyung3088]

1 son became an Intellegence officer, the other became a ED resident Doctor He should be proud

[@waywardwarrior2817]

unfortunately some parents just get so hooked on who they think their kid should be that they can't appreciate them for who they are

[@cj_mrgoldenfox15]

@@waywardwarrior2817 and that's why I'm happy I got my parents, and I would be proud of my kid for doing something amazing whether it be the same as their old man or in a different league of their own

[@kennethhwang3425]

Jay tries so hard to not become his father only to do exactly what his father would do: Lashing out with violence.

[@gore0802]

"A man often meets his destiny on the very road he chose to avoid it." -Oogway

[@elmalayug148]

​@@gore0802he was a wise turtle

[@NatDelfin]

because they were both veterans with PTSD

[@helenbrown6341]

Okay, it's official. I've become addicted to this show, and have been on a binging spree recently.

[@DragonTamer31K]

These clips make me want to binge it but I don't care about the personal stuff and every episode is 40 mins long. The main chick sucks too (and not in a good way)

[@CountryChloDoh]

I’d recommend watching Chicago PD too if you haven’t. It’s fantastic

[@QUARTERMASTEREMI6]

Yeah, I know - me too! 😁

[@ericterry4544]

It's just a show, but y'all should know that brain dead people don't blink their eyes. Blinking his eyes would have meant he was in a vegetative state. Most non-medical people don't believe there is a difference between brain death and a vegetative state, however there is. In a vegetative state, the brain stem is still alive and there may still be hope. For brain death to be declared, all brain stem reflexes must be absent and there are guidelines about how long they are absent. Eye blinking is one such reflex, as is coughing and gagging.

[@peaceflowerstudios6833]

Thank you, that's important to know!

[@samg873]

When the brain is dead that is a vegetative state

[@ericterry4544]

@@samg873 That's not at all medically accurate. Please stop.

[@autumnequinox7777]

@@samg873 No.

[@firebladetenn6633]

Good to know since my two granddaddies are old and I’ve already lost my grandmamas. But most likely needed to know this for my mom.. her lung problems are showing up much earlier than her mom’s, my grandmother. She is only a little over 60 and shouldn’t be having to sleep with an airtube blowing air into her nose so she can breath properly in her sleep. I need to know things like this so I know if things go completely wrong. Granted I shouldn’t be casting stones since both our problems could cause that. She has trouble breathing and has a slight bit of diabetic. I have seizures and with every year they get worse and less under control. So, I guess im more likely to end up like that than her. Gotta tell my husband this info. Thanks 👍🏼

[@jeannehall6546]

This reminds me of when my sister was taking care of both our parents. Now she used to be a healthcare consultant and is into advanced methods she’d find online as well as natural remedies and therapies. She wanted to do anything and everything to prolong Mother and Dad’s lives even longer and would badger the doctors with what she said she had found- even after they told her there was nothing more that could be done for them. Mother passed away in 2014 and Dad in 2018. To this day she’s still beating herself over the head for believing she failed in her work!

[@Slaying-all-day18]

But it seems like she did her best

[@jeannehall6546]

@@Slaying-all-day18 She wanted to do more and she believed she could do more.

[@AKiwiYouKnow]

This episode hurts so very much. My father passed 3 months ago in a not so dissimilar way, although he went due to a brain infection. He remained in a vegetative state, and was progressing into brain death after the infection slowly turned away from anti-biotics. Unfortunately, there was nothing more doctor's could do other than give him anti-swelling medication to reduce his pain, and set him on the strongest pain killers they had. The entire time he was out, he had those same reflexive reactions, and it hurts so very much knowing that other people have to go through these awful times as well. Rest In Peace, Dad. I'll always love you.

[@Americanpatriot-zo2tk]

Very very sorry about your dad, but it sounds like that you have a very good understanding of what was occurring much better than the son in the story.

[@10kingarthur]

If you watch the show he is actually really funny

[@soniamilea8129]

I am sorry for you dad man hope you get better he is looking down to you and he is proud of you because of what you have achieved Have a good day rest in peace❤🕊

[@AKiwiYouKnow]

@@soniamilea8129 Thank you so very much. Made me cry at work, after reading this. I appreciate your genuine kindness. Much love, and a good day to you as well.

[@jewels3596]

I'm so sorry for your loss. My dad and his siblings had to make the decision to take my grandpa off of life support 10 days after a car accident that killed my grandma instantly. They had just buried their mother and then had to bury their father. This happened in 1995 when I was only 19 years old, but it always feels just like yesterday.

[@loyevangelists]

That neurosurgeon should not be in the medical field. What a cold callous heart he has to say that the ventilator could be put to better use right in front of the son; that is a cold heart

[@TLGame]

He better hope he has no trouble with Chicago PD later on because Jay is not going to be on his side.

[@RHLW]

To quote House... "Would you rather be healed by a doctor who doesn't care about you, or die under the care of one who does?"

[@mjsensei259]

God it reminds me of when my dad was in the hospital. I nearly lost my father to COVID in 2021 and when he was at his worst, a doctor straight up told me and my family we should give up on him and that "he shouldn't have made it through the night." Jokes on that doctor, he made it through that night and came out of the hospital alive and is doing alright. 😎

[@CT_Taylor]

Dr abrams is being logical here because this episode had a mass casualty scenario when a apartment building fire killed many and left a LOT of people needing to be intubated and oxygenated. His dad was gone. The others need the ventilator

[@L3afeon]

@@mjsensei259 I'm glad he survived! He must of been in a bad way for the doc to say that , he had probably seen most people with similar severity of symptoms not make it - but I do think too many doctors and nurses got used to the idea of giving up on some covid patients too soon

[@gendoll5006]

At our hospital if you go to the ER for the same thing more than once in 30 days then all subsequent visits aren’t billed. It’s to try and get hospitals to actually treat the patient the first time instead of sending them home.

[@confderatechocolate4645]

Thank you, that part had me so confused when it came up.

[@strawberrysouffle50]

I can’t even believe what the neurosurgeon said you do not give a family news that their father is brain dead, yes at some point the conversation needs to be had but not immediately you give the family time to process the information. There is so many better ways he could of put it .

[@louiscyphre2267]

It's a tv show. There's supposed to be drama. That's why you watch.

[@redlupo6193]

He deferred to the brother to break the news to his sibling.

[@zilesis1]

Abrahms is jusk kind of like that, though. That's how they wrote him, probably because they wanted a character who would speet the plot along by just skipping the waiting for the right moment time and getting right to the stuff people want to see: the drama

[@arianebolt1575]

You could certainly let them sit with the patient for a while, come to the realization on their own.

[@disableddramaqueen9602]

See that’s what I had a problem with to him you never tell somebody oh I’m so sorry your dad‘s brain dead and then in the same breath say that vent could be put to better use right after you just told them It’s not professional give them time to process and then speak about life-support and that process

[@Ariplaygames]

Bruh Will did SO much with everything against him and a terrible family and they still dare tell him "Thats all you can you do with your degree?" WTF dude I know this is a TV show but I know people like this and its so gross. People like this hate their miserable lives and try to make everyone miserable to make themselves feel better.

[@GachaLily-s5v]

My grandfather died from brain cancer in the last day in the hospital he didn’t feel anything… I was so depressed until I heard quote that said “never give up on ur dreams, good things take time” I never gave up on my college and now I’m a docter

[@christopherhaines2492]

I don't know you personally, but I'm proud of you, and I know your father is too ❤

[@peytonmanning5404]

I can tell by the way you spelled "doctor"

[@nekolalia3389]

did the dad write the title

[@ScarletBrimstone]

Oof...

[@laurencespringer7823]

Ha Ha Ha

[@mimi2the4]

😂😂

[@meechmushrooms]

OH MY _GOD-_ 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@louiscyphre2267]

That's what I was thinking.

[@sedonakemp7716]

Are these titles written by an AI/translated? I always see them as somehow misworded, the better one would have been "Deciding Whether Or Not To Disconnect Your Brain Dead Dad"

[@10kingarthur]

Your comment me laugh so hard 😂😂

[@genghisc3160]

Brain-Dead Dad. The hyphen was omitted.

[@zTeaTheCoffee]

Those capitalizations are really strange. It should be "Deciding Whether or Not to Disconnect Your Brain-Dead Dad"

[@chrystalwhite1397]

We went through it with of my dad's brother he'd had a heart attack and was unresponsive and remained that way. When he collapsed he hit his head and that also left him with a head injury but the heart attack is what caused it. We waited for their younger brother and his wife to come in from Texas to make a decision and the doc gave them I think 72 hours but told us he was brain dead. I was almost 2 months pregnant at that time. They decided to pull the plug on him and he did breath on his own for about 10 hours and I did get to tell him bye but I got tired so my mom took me home. And between 10 -12 that night he past away in 2002. Still miss him

[@Fossilight]

I had to convince my dad to let go of my step mom who was brain dead and be taken off of life support. As a combat medic I was used to these choices but it was so hard to watch her go in front of everyone and feel like I was the one who let her die.

[@joshuahudson2170]

I'm used to the rule being brain dead 72 hours and it's time to give up. I've heard of people coming back from no eeg for several hours, so the 72 is way outsized to remove risk.

[@gore0802]

It's a tv show, there are many more things they get wrong from an medical point of view. (CPR, intubation...)

[@transportlegendshorts]

1:14 Bro got violated

[@AzulToad]

Then he ended up being brain dead.

[@SUNRISECANARY]

Here we go again. When a new clip from Chicago med is uploaded, it makes me think it's from a new episode but if COLIN DONNELL is in it, it's OLD because Colin Donnell left the show years ago😤

[@skullgamendraw3658]

The fact the doctor said that “The vent could be put to better use” is completely without empathy. I understand that doctors need to make sure that equipment is being used effectively and efficiently, but there must’ve been a better way of communicating that point.

[@stacynewton34]

My aunt was brain dead this morning,few minutes she was gone 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 At least shes not in pain nor sick anymore R.I.P AUNTIE WE WILL MISS YOU 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@donaldreason5664]

B.REASON Sooooo very sorry honey ... May the Lord bless you and yours with all you need during this heart breaking time in your lives.. I'm Jesus' name.. Amen Amen and Amen..

[@Devilmaycry-Joker]

@Tosha Hall You are ruining the vibes, did your parents never teach you “if you don’t have anything nice to say, then don’t say anything at all” ? Delete your comment if you don’t want to be in her thread👍 Because the vibes are staying as is.

[@Issy4023]

Sorry for your loss

[@Issy4023]

@Tosha Hall your heartless

[@R4ndmstories]

lol bro rip

[@Letmetalk123]

The sad thing is the things jay said to his father I think were the last words he said to him

[@GCLU]

Wether.

[@Onlera]

This is a reminder to make sure you have been VERY clear with your family about your wishes

[@kmoney2800]

Grieving the death of a loved one shouldn't involve verbal and physical abuse. It's no excuse to be a jerk.

[@sugibear123]

sometimes you have to know when to let go

[@hunteocampo1]

I'm sorry to hear about your dad Jay

[@Sanic55]

Those compressions aren't saving anyone. Also, you can't push that much epi that quickly during cardiac arrest. You need to wait 3-5 min before giving another dose of epi

[@aliceinsley9684]

I feel sorry for jay and will and his dad

[@datgaydangernoodle1315]

Thats a confusing title. Better would be "Choosing wether or not to disconnect your brain dead dad"

[@ikonographics]

Whether

[@SKMedia252]

Too many words for a snappy title

[@mark9377]

I don’t find the title confusing, it means the same as what you said

[@jenniferromero571]

Realistically, why do people want to keep their vegetable loved ones alive?

[@loyevangelists]

If you've never been down that road it is hard for you to know why. Some families are pretty close with a lot of love.

[@Precipiceofwind]

Because there's always a chance

[@vanLovely]

Guilt, regret, hope, faith, delusion, denial, grief.

[@teneesh3376]

​@@Precipiceofwindno there isn't. Big difference between brain dead and coma. Coma still has some brain activity, so there's a chance of waking up. Brain dead basically means there's no chance. The brain can only make the body do involuntary actions. No thoughts are there. It's sad, but true

[@averycheesypotato]

Some people take longer to move through the stages of grief & reach acceptance

[@LUR1N0XX]

I was crying in my room my dog and my uncle died in thailand my dog died in 1 year ago :(… exept my uncle abused me so much like my grandma also my dog my dog died because of infection… my uncle died because of kidney faliure and liver faliure because he was drunk.. this time i am still visiting them in the grave yard myself i am suffered so much i cried so much i am sad all the time.. i always cry i lost my moms dad he went too drunk until he was dead.. they said the time of death. 1902-2023..😭i am still crying everyday suffering because of my uncle dead loss.. i love u all it reminds me of my uncles loss.. thank u for making this video it is making me cry.. i love u all with my heart…❤

[@marielaausher]

Dr. Abrahams was an amazing neurosurgeon, very smart and competent but he was pretty bad at talking with patients in general and this is a great example of it Maybe it was because he was talking with Will too but it's just common sense that you don't tell someone that the bed their loved is on could have a better use.

[@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr]

My father passed out one day at work, asked me to come pick him up at the hospital. After I get there, myself and the family start noticing his stories conflict what happened. They did an MRI and he had a mass in his brain and lung. Spent every minute I could with him for the next week while he waited for brain surgery. He made it out seemingly ok, told me he loved me one last time, then stroked out at 4am. He became a vegetable overnight and we eventually had to pull the plug. And I miss him like crazy every day. This stuff is a nightmare

[@theswatboiimbetter4997]

This episode is disturbing but at 7:24 im dead 😂

[@Jaee09]

It was so sudden😭😭

[@catrachaV4]

We missed the brother scene in hew season..

[@COLTS-xy9nu]

I’d like to know which of the brothers was their dad’s medical proxy/ had power of attorney. Will is the obvious choice since he’s a doctor but the way he talks to and acts with Jay makes me wonder if they share it. Or maybe I’m overthinking Will’s behavior and he just wants Jay onboard before taking their dad off life support

[@JenniferSteil28]

Those were some weak ass chest compressions.

[@strawberrysouffle50]

You can’t actually do cpr on a live person so for safety of the actor they will end up being weaker than what you would actually do.

[@YourSoGolden-mr3my]

@Strawberry Soufflé yeah that’s correct, however you can’t actually have someone get shot or hit by a car for a tv show, it’s called ✨acting✨ and they could have gotten a dummy or smth just to make it look a little realistic

[@louiscyphre2267]

@@YourSoGolden-mr3myyou don't know the difference between "your" and "you're" shouldn't be trying to critique how real something should be.

[@camdynsprite5363]

I just found out today that my dad only has a few weeks or less to live. 😢😭

[@sasharowe]

I am praying for you and your family

[@Ava-36910]

I’m so sorry. Prayers for you❤

[@depaula1710]

Oh wow, that is really tough! Is he well enough so you can still talk, you and your dad? I hope you get to tell and show each other all you feel. If you can, look him in the eyes, look at him. Those moments of connection however vulnerable are the most precious things we get from knowing soemone. For me it has been very healing. It is such a hard and heartbreaking thing to go through saying goodbye. But to have the chance to see each other fully is a blessing

[@camdynsprite5363]

@@depaula1710 He hurt me too much. So, much that I wasn’t able to visit him before he passed away. I do love him but, I just wasn’t strong enough to visit him.

[@camdynsprite5363]

@@sasharowe Thank you. He passed away a few days ago.

[@briaphillips9558]

not brain dead dad

[@Bluefrog757]

What is going on in this family?

[@stellargamer4852]

Im suprized no ones talking about the hospital trying to cover there ass. Alot of hospitals do this in real life cuz normal people dont know about those rules.

[@joewhitehead3]

Good thing this show addressed that then

[@jarednil69]

Total conflict of interest from the get go.

[@EavanEllisPrincessEavan]

Mr Halstead should be lucky to have two Great sons also I thought there was a rule against doctors treating their family members

[@WilliamTurneresq]

Don't say that in front of patients or their relatives.

[@AchillesOnYT]

Most times in the end, a parent ends up loving their child even if they did somethings they regret. (I said MOST TIMES, not ALL THE TIME)

[@motherthorns]

Hits hard.

[@iLOVEpalestineNlebanonFOREVER]

That’s one weird title

[@sineadduffy8253]

DID DR HAULSTED GET FIRED

[@abishaw6562]

"This bed could be put to better use". Wow. What an a-hole

[@Kuraujia]

I don't get the 29-day surgery. Can someone explain to me please why is Dr. Halstead so upset about it? Why does he feel betrayed?

[@joewhitehead3]

Basically if a patient dies before 30 days after a surgery, then legally, that’s the hospitals responsibility. They were only keeping his dad on the ventilator for a couple more days in order to avoid that

[@Kuraujia]

@@joewhitehead3 Thank you so much for the clarification

[@joewhitehead3]

@@Kuraujia Sure thing

[@t4yl0rzzz]

what is the title 💀💀

[@jacq_sparrow]

Who is in charge of writing these titles? 💀

[@ryansmith4494]

Someone brain dead?

[@Frozencat99]

The description too

[@SparDanger]

Why is Will even allowed to treat his father? Wouldn't it be a conflict of interest?

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Jay later killed the guy responsible for his father's death.

[@redlupo6193]

6:36 Jay calls his brother Will "Nick" -- the name of his actor. Surprised no one caught it.

[@casualbydefault]

I can't hear Nick at all at 6:36 , "He's gotta come back man, because..." is what is said.

[@NH-tb2sm]

He didn't say Nick.

[@PreppyGal-yw5zw]

@@NH-tb2smya he did

[@NH-tb2sm]

@@PreppyGal-yw5zw no, he said he's gotta come back man

[@PreppyGal-yw5zw]

@@NH-tb2smif you skip it back a couple seconds he said nick

[@andrewlarcher9704]

Why does the fire alarm always go off?

[@ItsCreeperNamiMMS]

What fire alarm

[@novaviis4245]

who is the intern that wrote this title and why didn't they pass 9th Grade English

[@divyakittu]

Bruh Wth is wrong with the title 😂😂😂😂😂😂 when words ain’t wording 😅😂😂😂 Somone make it make sence plssss 😊

[@HearMeOut-bi6ui]

It's grammatically correct and makes sense. Maybe You're the one who doesn't know english

[@StellaMagic100]

Did Gwen get fired

[@pie.x]

I thought you can’t operate on your own family? Other than my question, this sure is a sad episode. Coming from someone who also has an unbearable father at times.

[@stellargamer4852]

Judging by what he said to the blond nurse there might not have been any other doctors available and nurses cand call time. I noticed this show uses the understaffed trope alot to add stress to it.

[@thegamerowl1700]

I want more episodes with Sam I love the guy

[@Beth20043]

I thought CPR kept oxygen going to the brain? I heard a real life case of a toddler who was revived after about 3 hours, and according to google some codes where the initial rhyrhm was V-fib, like this guys was, have lasted for 50+ minutes. And I read a story from a guy on Quora who survived after that long. They got to him the second the monitor went off and did CPR right away for only 5 minutes. Surely that would have prevented brain death? Even if it was badly done, brain death is unlikely to happen within 5 minutes anyway.

[@tyresmith9833]

I truly cannot stand Jay’s character anymore. He’s so irrational and annoying. I’m on Will’s side.

[@ggof_il2098]

Jay has anger issues

[@Marvinzock34]

ok

[@EliseFisher12]

I think my brain is dead after reading that title

[@mystiquesword]

Tell me you didnt watch the clip without telling me you didnt watch the clip 🤣 Brain-dead is a medical term. If one is brain-dead, there is little to no chance of coming back from that ….which is precisely what happened.

[@معاذ-غ7ش5ر]

What an episode?

[@rae1442]

Where can I watch this?

[@itsyagirl-gill]

can sm plz explain to me the whole hospital fatality.....29days blah blah blah part

[@mikeljordan-e6t]

ich leibe chicago med und chicago fire da ich selbst in der freiwiligen feuerwehb bin 🚒🚒🚒❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😘😘😘😘😘

[@gautambk-x9d]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@JordanBlasingame-t2g]

I don't understand why their Halstead Dad died from Brain dead

[@WarGrowlmon18]

Smoke inhalation from a fire set by a hitman caused it.

[@VoightHank314]

So is the dad brain dead if it is that means that their dad is gone

[@Ixaglet]

At least get someone who can speak English to write the titles, jfc.

[@PokeMageTech]

Title makes sense to me.

[@annalenaschmidt538]

which episode

[@AzulToad]

Season 4 episode 2

[@Americanpatriot-zo2tk]

At three minutes and 45 seconds, when your time is up it is up you’re not gonna die until God says you do and when he says it’s your time it’s your time I’m a registered nurse for 35 years. I’ve seen it 300 times everyone has their time.

[@maxsiemens304]

Man I would rather be dead and with Jesus than on a stupid machine for even a year. If I can't go hiking and be in the mountains and do things then what life is that. I would tell them straight up if it looks like I ain't there just pull the plug and let me die in peace without pain.

[@enkercodm9506]

Agree

[@sineadduffy8253]

i am alubera in potgal i am supper hot dr haulsted

[@Americanpatriot-zo2tk]

I’m a registered nurse for 35 years we all end up dying people always want to think there’s hope we spent way too much money keeping vegetables to live in this country. Pull the plug he’s already dead.

[@chrisgibson4248]

First👨‍⚕️

[@I.EAT.TOES419]

For anyone who wants to know its season 7 episode 2 of. Chicago fire

[@mobidick6064]

They can hear so speak to them even so they may be unresponsive

[@brandonmcglocklin9040]

In comas potentially, in this case with brain death, even though it's not portrayed correctly in the show, means the person is dead, they can not hear nor do they have any form of responses. Though you are correct if it were to be vegetative state/coma, some have reported they can hear people.