Par 5 Mistakes EVERY GOLFER Makes | ME AND MY GOLF

[@Henry4PC]

My strategy: 1st shot: Don't top it 2nd shot: Don't top it 3rd shot: Don't top it 4th shot: Don't Chuck it 5th: ok don't chunk this one 6th: Get out of bunker 7th: 2 putt god plz

[@meandmygolf.]

Sounds like a good strategy ;)

[@Hittingitsolid]

That's an awesome strategy Henry, love it!

[@renzolujan1575]

Hahahhahahhaha

[@important_frog]

In many ways you guys are stating the obvious here but it's still helpful to hear. I've recently been using your techniques and finding so much more success. I've cut my handicap to 20 after a lifetime of scoring over 100. Not amazing but it's making golf more fun. Thanks for the clear and concise explanations.

[@banshee315]

Whats the best way to line up my 5th putt? Asking for a friend!

[@glennwatson3313]

I line up my fifth putt from the 19th Hole bar.

[@15205golfer]

You guys give the best advice, but I guess I am just one of the individuals that can understand your instruction. I like your teaching style, it's not complicated, and more detail is given in the functionality of what you teach. Keep up the good work, and as always, fairways and greens to you!

[@meandmygolf.]

Thanks Keith. Great to hear that you enjoy the content and we hope it's helping.

[@justjoddat]

I was telling my dad this the other day. He said with my drives, I should be going for some par 5's in 2, with my 3-wood and I said why put myself in a bad situation if I miss hit it, when I can hit a 7-iron to a shot I feel more comfortable with. I keep telling him "Don't be a hero"...I'm playing to score well, not to make low probability shots.

[@meandmygolf.]

If the 1st tee shot is inviting then yes why not. Go for it.

[@ruannell6423]

Would really like u 2 to play a round of golf, one playing extremely safe and the other extremely aggressive.

[@ruannell6423]

This is something all amateurs hear, play safe, take you medicine, don't bomb a driver on ever hole... i would really like to see this in action...

[@wordup2yourmother]

It pretty much averages out to similar rounds depending on how often the player plays each way more often mixed with a bit of luck. The best I play is when I remind myself no money is on the line and that I want to have fun, then there is no let down.

[@touristguy87]

Is there really a difference between what you do and how you do it?

[@RangaPirate]

Watch some of Golf Sidekick's content. He does this.

[@davewinter1350]

It’s amazing how ego can get in the way of a good score , mine used to !!! But thanks to you guys I have rebuilt my course management ,meandmygolf without a doubt my best year of golf 🏌🏼‍♂️ 🥳

[@Hittingitsolid]

Ego ruins so many golf scores and I see it every weekend. Golfers hitting shots with the wrong clubs because their ego tells them they can reach the target, but in reality they can't. Put the ego to one side and hit the golf club that gets the job done.

[@meandmygolf.]

It really can David. You haver to take it out if you want to play your best.

[@nealsmith1649]

2nd season golfer. I am definitely choosing my club for distance and not lie. I also grab the driver immediately. Lot of learning to do. Great tips. Your videos have improved my iron game dramatically in my short time golfing. Still learning the drive and fairway/hybrid. Thank you!

[@yikesmcg1371]

The approach tips will be great to use after I drop just past the lake I hooked my drive into.

[@Dendrothe]

Golfsidekick has a great channel with this style of break down for course management. It's great to see lots of awesome channels offering a variety of strategies for golfers of all handicaps.

[@TheBWF187]

i just recently started using my 7 hybrid for my second shots and it has absolutely changed my game, breaking it up is simple and great advice!

[@meandmygolf.]

Thanks. Strategy is just so key!

[@freedomisgolf5816]

Ok I did this on weekend I planned to hit an iron on all par fives second shot and guess what made 2 pars stress free gave me 6 stable ford points were weeks before I had 8 and 7 🇦🇺⛳️⛳️⛳️

[@XexonVizer]

Dear Pierce and Andy, great video again :) I actually feel that I'm good a knowing my limitations and abilities and have a decent strategy when it comes to how to play the holes (of course everything can be improved upon). My major flaw when it comes to Par 5's, where I won't hit the driver and sort have the thought "I just have to get this 200 meters out" or "I'll hit my 7 iron on my second shot, but the direction doesn't really matter", I really tend to fail miserably on those "easy" shots. Eventhough I'm just pulling out my 4 iron on a Par 5 or playing that approach with my shorter irons, I find I have to pick a target. If I just go up and hit it and feel no pressure, that's when my inconsistent strikes occur. So just another tip that works for me, always pick a tree a bunker edge or something to aim at for those strategy shots :)

[@meandmygolf.]

Hi Michael. You need to put as much focus on those easy shots as you do the harder ones. Keep the routine the same no matter what and you should see a difference.

[@deanryan8725]

You guys are the best, The Mario and Luigi of Golf!

[@bmeach4940]

Excellent video. I love the way you explain things so clearly. I'm a subscriber now!

[@meandmygolf.]

Thanks. Glad to hear you enjoyed the video. Let us know how we can help.

[@peterwatt5521]

Great video...you guys make it sound so easy. It never seems to be so easy with a scorecard in your hand. Ive wrecked many a scorecard by taking 3 wood and duffing my second shot then the red mist descends...i will give this a go

[@meandmygolf.]

Thanks Peter. Hope this is useful.

[@freshwaterfelines5340]

I’ve excelled quite a bit at hitting my irons within the past few weeks of viewing. I really appreciate the great tips you guys give. Thanks for the help!

[@meandmygolf.]

Thanks. Hope this is useful to you.

[@guessmyname1104]

"Don't automatically pull driver for your tee shot. Just hit a 250 yard shot to stay short of the bunker" Me: "250 yard shot or less? So, driver it is." 😕

[@Pragmatic__]

The amateur golfer experience

[@cjpaul8571]

Right! And especially if the alternative is a 2 or 3 iron... driver it is.

[@davidbrown5152]

My difficulty is well illustrated in this video. 250 yards out and in a bad lie. I go for the 3-4-5 wood and try to reach the green. Good idea to reach for the higher lofted club and hit it to 100 yards from the flag. Good strategy.

[@djjazzyjeff1232]

I'm totally guilty of number 3, my 2nd shot, grabbing 3 wood when I'm 250+ out, I can't hit it that far even if I smash my 3 wood it'll only go barely over 210 and I'm left with a tricky sub 100 yard pitch instead of a better approach from 125 or so.

[@julia-6195]

Shot 1: Driver - even if I hit my best there is no way I am going to reach those bunkers. - 240 yds Shot 2: 4H: 210 yds fade. Shot 3: Bump and run up onto the green. 1 putt = birdie Reminds me of the 9th hole where I normally play

[@dzl8596]

Great video. What do you do to recover from a disastrous day at the course where nothing was working?? Besides drink heavily.

[@Leemz100]

If I can't reach a par 5 COMFORTABLY in two shots then the driver stays in my bag. I'll tee off with anything from 3 wood to 4 hybrid depending on hazards.

[@marksarookanian2753]

Really enjoy these videos about course management.

[@sebastianc730]

Great video. This is the kind of advice that can easily improve your game by a few stroke. I look forward to using this approach this weekend.

[@meandmygolf.]

Hope you enjoyed it Sebastian.

[@kevinmontgomery1054]

Great advice. My biggest challenge is a long 2nd shot. I'm a long hitter and can usually reach a par-5 green in 2. My problem with a 200+ yard 2nd shot is getting the ball to stop on the green. It often rolls off the back into tall rough, traps or knee-high weeds. A lost ball means a penalty drop and then I'm hitting 4 onto the green. I'd be better off laying up and taking a wedge onto the green for my 3rd shot.

[@womackmat]

I always think I have to get on the green in two and over do it every time. So glad to see a smart play so it’s not so tough

[@wimhelsen7248]

nice one guys

[@glennwatson3313]

You guys know more about golf than I ever will but it seems to be that a driver on a par 5 gets me closer to the green. I would rather be closer. If a well hit driver means the next shot can be a five iron instead of a 3 wood then that's good. I would rather hit a lob wedge into the green than a 9 iron. I realize I might hit a bad driver off the tee, but I might hit a bad anything off the tee.

[@ChristopherTumminello]

I think their main point here is that sometimes a well-hit driver can leave you in a tough situation. On this hole, for example, a drive that misses the bunker may leave you blocked by that tree on the right-hand side. I think their main point is to take the time to think about your tee shot and where it will leave you vs. just defaulting to a driver because it's a par 5. How far you hit is another factor. For me, my usual drive will be around 250 so I'd be able to hit a driver on their demo hole without fear of going into the bunkers. Longer hitters need to factor that in.

[@glennwatson3313]

@some one Not to me. To me the closer the better.

[@ACPanda26]

Love the video! Easier to hit a great wedge than a good 3w off the deck, still gives you great birdie opportunities!

[@meandmygolf.]

Thanks Andrew. So true.

[@golfkid6579]

Excellent course management advice. I played a couple of rounds last week using these ideas and had the most enjoyable round of golf ever! Quick question, I’m fading my long irons a lot but hitting the rest dead straight, any ideas as to what I’m doing wrong or how to fix it?

[@jacobmacmillan5574]

GolfKid I have the same problem I fade my 2-4 but I draw my other irons a wedges I think it might just be a swing thing

[@hlubmos2chah945]

Like it. Thanks.

[@NaterLeroy]

Quality video as always!

[@meandmygolf.]

Thanks Nathan.

[@egiajinogintingsh224]

I have a question. Does the technique are the same using driver 1 and fairway wood 3? Or, the fairway wood 3 are the same like using irons?

[@johnandrews1959]

You asked which par 5 mistake are you, errrr everyone of those. I have built up a phobia of par 5s. Hate them with a passion as I always let the big dog eat and put myself in danger. Great video golf friends 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@meandmygolf.]

Glad you enjoyed it John.

[@greasby1golf871]

The most hammed up golf videos on you tube but good advice, always so torn on wether I can watch!

[@Redskies453]

Yeah if I could hit an iron 250 yards my strategy might be different too. Your job is to get inside 100 with as little risk as possible. Sometimes that's 3w plus 4i. Sometimes it's driver plus hybrid. Spread the risk over the shots wherever possible. Very few people can reliably get 400+ straight yards from two iron shots, if they can they probably know a bit about strategy already. The real question is 'what is the longest club I can hit safely that will deliver me more pars than doubles on percentage'. That is based on the width of the fairway not length of the hole. Also, Is the big trouble on 'your side' of the hole or will you naturally shape away from it? Water left is not a problem if you have a consistent left to right. Thick trees left is an issue if you play right to left and don't have space to aim away from it. Anyone who wants to get from 18 to 10 is going to have to start scoring the 5s consistently, and backing off is not always the best strategy. Be smart aggressive.

[@randymahony8157]

Definitely the wrong club out of the rough is my mistake. Good video guys thanks.

[@renzolujan1575]

Great stuff!

[@JSTuveri]

Fancy doing a video on how to read a green?

[@sterlinghein]

Really like these strategy videos

[@meandmygolf.]

Thanks. Hope they help.

[@BeachBow]

Y'all just take all the fun out of that Par 5. I'd smash a driver, take my longest wood/iron for my 2nd, and pick up my "gimmie" eagle on the green! Simple! JM2C

[@TheSmurf307]

270 to the bunker lol. If I actually hit that bunker it would be my longest drive ever lol

[@mh_golfer]

If I have a good lie and can't make the green I typically something like my 4 or 5 iron to try to get myself inside 50 yards while avoiding the big miss from a 3 wood. I feel like I am going to hit more greens from 50 and in than 70 to 100. Otherwise, I will typically play to around 100 to 130 yards so I can hit a full shot with my gap or pitching wedge.

[@keithproposturus]

Love you guys but . . . Golf for me happens to be a grip it and rip it type of fun. I'm around a 12 handicapper and always recommend to my golfing buddies to have fun swinging even if it costs them a ball/stroke. Do you think it's ok to not necessarily NEED to get great at the game but just enjoy it at your comfort level?

[@scottbrigham2238]

Do you have videos to fix slicing and hooking? Every time I try and tailor to a dog leg left or right I end up in the woods.

[@creamabdul-jabbar6722]

Par 5s at mine are kind of easy. It’s just so not miss right on the first it’s road and ob the second is don’t miss long or right. I’ll just allow for my natural slice. Just swing the club that’s it not adjusting to hit a slight fade dogleg right on 2nd fairway starts coming back at 238. If I slice it I could be on the bank uphill pretty flat bank play at about 265 but really 245 then after that it’s 2 bunkers short I can take a 5wood clear the bunkers at about 212 at best. Sometimes I don’t hit it smooth and I could be short about 5 yards from bunker hit a high 60 putt for worse a 5-6 or attack and I’m hitting 4. I’d rather walk with a 6 and go for it. No risk no reward

[@moves16]

I like your tips like “have a plan”. But if the par 5 is 500 yards and your driver can make it to the 270 yard bunkers than it’s possible to hit the green in two. And if you hit in the the bunkers all you need is a 130yd PW to have a 100yd approach. On this hole there in no danger in hitting the driver.

[@jamiewatchorn7639]

I don’t have a driver or woods in my bag anymore. Start on a 3 hybrid, then my driving iron, irons and full wedge set. Most importantly though a putter I get on with. No point being on the green for 3 and then taking 4 putts

[@MrBarrynicholas]

The big problem with most amateur golfers (me included) is, we try to hit every shot as far as we can with whichever club chosen. Sometimes especially if out of position it is wiser to give up the distance and take your medicine.

[@Steff_p]

Strokes gained numbers show that you always perform better the closer to the hole you are. Strokes gained also shows that it is way better to go for the green in two if you can get it fairly close (30 yards from the green) than to hit a lay up. So hitting the ball to "your" number is a good tip if you want a higher score on the hole.

[@meandmygolf.]

That all depends on the player and their strengths. It's always good to go for the green if you can get it close but that's if you get it close. It's just playing the averges and your strengths. We are all so different.

[@Steff_p]

​@@meandmygolf. Well if you are a decent golfer the statistics show you should get it as close to the hole as possible. So playing the averages in this case is to go for the green. Let me give you an example: Going for the green vs laying up You are 250 yards from the green on the fairway. Laying up to 70 yards in the fairway gives you a strokes gained value of -0,205. Going for the green but end up in rough 20 yards from hole gives you -0,075 If you hit the next shot to 5 yards from the hole on the green you will have to hit a 0,13 SG value better shot from the lay up position to end up in the same spot. If you hit equal shots (the same strokes gained values) from 70 yards in the fairway and 20 yards from the rough you will end up approximately 1,2 yards closer to the hole for your birdie attempt.

[@imasspeons]

@@Steff_p training an army of David Simms clones.

[@julianroberts698]

Cheers for the video guys

[@meandmygolf.]

Pleasure Julian. Hope it helps.

[@thomaschapman5995]

I have a habit of lining up to the right and swinging out to in and putting too much fade on the ball, any drills or tricks to line up better?

[@JoshEvansHeavens]

Your grip needs to be turned clockwise, every time you look down at your grip you should see at LEAST two knuckles on your left hand, I promise it helps, also try to imagine you’re holding a bucket of water that you have to swing over your left shoulder, just imagine it I promise it will help with the out to in

[@ryanbarnett3002]

Not sure i agree with anything other than driver or 3 wood off that tee. Looks like way to much space to be giving up that much yardage. Even from that bunker you should be able to lay up to a decent spot on your 2nd, but your giving up the opportunity to reach in two by not taking driver or 3 wood. You are giving up way too much to the field by giving up that much yardage.

[@billyclement5049]

Ryan Barnett If you’re trying to play professionally or even as an amateur, sure, your giving up too much. But I believe this video is directed more towards the competitive weekend golfer. Someone who wants to improve their game as much as possible, within their means (Time, Money, and Energy). Some people will never be able to hit the green in two and need a strategy to work around that.

[@edwinscox]

@@billyclement5049 Yup, you exactly described my situation. Breaking the distance of a par 5 into three manageable shots greatly reduces my risk. My average on par fives is seven. If I could take one or two strokes off reliably, it would help greatly. The longer clubs are riskier for me. Thanks.

[@ryanbarnett3002]

@some one A.The point of this video is not how to play this specific par 5 its how to play par 5's in general. B. I guarantee if they played that par 5 they would not be taking a 5 iron off the tee. Watch one of their course vlogs.

[@meandmygolf.]

It all depends on how severe the danger is, the situation and how you are feeling with your game at that point Ryan. You do give up yardage which can hurt you yes.

[@james-ww3ot]

That's fine for those who are better with their irons than their driver or 3 wood.

[@Blackyboi39]

I am really good at Par 5 scoring, my only mistake is I pull out driver a bit too much, but I hit my Driver very well on most days, the only time I do not pull out driver is, if there is no possible landing area within my normal distance - 20 yards. Then I usually use a 5 or 6 iron. I can reach most Par 5s in 2, but I am not very confident with my fairway metals or even my 4 iron so I mostly lay up for a 20-40 yarder as I can pitch within 10 feet 95% of the time in that distance and within 6 feet about 50% of the time. I only go for it in 2 if I can either run it up the front with a long club or can fly a 5 iron or shorter then I give myself a go at eagle. Last year my Par 5 scoring was actually under Par on average with that strategy, but Par 5s are a combination of all my strengths, as they are Driver, Wedges and short putts and for the lay ups I always choose a shot as easy as possible.

[@mikerooneym6266]

I used to try to hit my longest and straightest shots on par 5's because I felt like I had to get on the green in two. I've learned that it isn't very likely. My scores have dropped by playing a smart 3 shots to the green for a tap in birdie or two putt par.

[@meandmygolf.]

Great Mike. Very sensible.

[@flightra4232]

Thanks great vid I’m 13 and on 28 handicap after 2 years

[@meandmygolf.]

Thanks Corey, Hope we are helping.

[@stuartcreedy4601]

I am definitely always going to the wood off the tee and the “hero” second shot to the green with the wood again. Helpful video and makes sense. Just hard fighting the gremlins in your head that are saying “smash it!!”😂

[@meandmygolf.]

That's the battle. Experiment with hitting an iron off the tee in practice and see how you do.

[@frankiejennings3984]

Ye but wheres the fun in not hitting your driver

[@rutexas7157]

One mistake I don't make is dress in the same attire as my playing partner - cardinal sin #1!

[@Jeff_Louis]

Thanks for the tips, apparently I've been doing everything wrong which is why I'm scoring 8 or more shots lol 😂

[@ribusgan]

Hole 4: Driver, 7 iron to the right of the pond, and then a 3 wood and pray I don't duff it or something. Best case is a 4th shot chip to the pin, and down.

[@nicholaspacheco8922]

How hard should I be swinging the club? I feel like I try to murder the ball everytime.

[@elviskrumlinde8854]

He said pin’s at the left, and that the best angel of attack is from the right. Hm... laying up right side fairway will only make the shot more difficult, because there is less room for a draw. You want to pick a shot that’s Curving towards the flag and away from trouble. For example, small green, hazard is to the left and pin is on left side of the green. You don’t want to hit it in the hazard that’s why you should curve the ball with a fade away from the hazard. And there fore, placing your layup left to make as much room as possible to hit the green even with a bigger fade. But remember, pick a curve that might even start right at trouble but then fades away from it. Hit shot at flag not away from it. And make sure to place the ball so get as much room to do so.

[@CR7910.]

Nice video

[@meandmygolf.]

Thanks Jack.

[@part1801]

I usually hit a layup shot 8 times out of 10 because I suck with my 3 wood, if you can catch one there's nothing that feels better in golf than purring a 3 wood

[@MSG19772]

Driver off the tee (into the trouble), three wood (most probably topped it), an awkward distance for the third shot (most probably skulled wedge). - this is me before I realized I was breaking down par 5's incorrectly. lol

[@meandmygolf.]

So true Miguel. Strategy is key.

[@tallahassZ]

looks like a driver - high cut for 310... then a 7 in to the green. 8' eagle putt. :-)

[@meandmygolf.]

As easy as that ;)

[@michealhudson4515]

My biggest problem is inconsistency. From there it goes to doubt. Until I find a consistent rythm to ball striking I'm done

[@Ty-no8lj]

Same here. I can go from puring my irons to absolutely fatting them....on the same hole. I dont quite understand why. I can't count on gettin under 100 with that crap going on. Driving me mad.

[@michealhudson4515]

@@Ty-no8lj I'm the same. I played yesterday and everything was dead left. So I get frustrated and start thinning the ball. From there it went down hill. Except putting I actually putted well

[@gavinthomas1605]

Negative golf it’s only 465 y your plan should be get on in 2 shots .... if it was 500y plus then ok I see what your saying. 1st time I have disagreed with you guys love you channel 👍👍👍

[@ethanpearson7461]

gavin thomas why? Why risk going in a fairway/greenside bunker, being behind a tree, or hitting it into any hazard just to satisfy your ego of going for the green in 2?

[@mrbigdik1529]

Play to your strengths boys, golf is all mentally as a 5 handiape golfer I can beat and have beaton scratch golfers

[@ichhasseamerika]

Cud u leave the text "baloons " on the screen a bit longer? Still reading them :)

[@Melted_Butter]

Wish I was good enough that strategy even mattered 😵

[@meandmygolf.]

Strategy always matters. It's always good to work at it.

[@dennissmith8371]

The only way I can compete in competitions are to take care of the par threes and par fives then get up and down to save par on the fours, these kind of shows let’s every body in on the secret, not to worry, best improve the putting?

[@MaxyBosm]

What if your not confident enough in your ball striking with long irons.

[@chrisallen7798]

Max Boston While I’m not these guys, im a decent golfer. I tell people to always hit the club you have the most confidence in. If it’s a 5 wood, hit that off the tee. If it’s the 3 iron, hit that. I can hit a driver a long way, but I love my 5 wood. I can almost hit it with my eyes closed. So I go and hit that on a par 5 because I know I’m in the fairway and the feel of hitting a good shot carries over to the next shot. If you play an ego free game and to your strengths, you can easily take 5-10 shots off your score without really getting better

[@MaxyBosm]

@@chrisallen7798 yeah but I don't have that club I actually find more fairways with my driver than any of my woods / irons. Probably just need to practice more

[@bobthebike7538]

You nicked that out of Tom Watsons first book!!! How to play a par 5. 5 iron, 5 Iron, 5 iron chip , putt, worst you'll get is a 6

[@meandmygolf.]

Never read that book but great advice from a legend of the game.

[@bobthebike7538]

@@meandmygolf. no problem you probably weren't born when it came out.

[@kristoffergermund]

Exactly the way I play golf, defensive and boring, some would say. But playing the odds like this will always improve your score, and ultimately lower your hcp...

[@robtriffitt5008]

All very well until you top your 5 iron off the tee 😂

[@bobthebike7538]

Par fives are the only holes where a duff shot still leaves you with a chance of par. "I'm here, what's happened has happened, forget about it, Comfy club, comfy club, chip, putt. Par worst you'll get is a 6. Works 99% of the time.

[@meandmygolf.]

Yes then you are in trouble but you just need to apply the same mentality. Break it down.

[@globetrotter8556]

My trouble is execution, not strategy. LOL

[@petermcgill1315]

5 metal? After all these years, it still grates

[@james-ww3ot]

I thought the objective on a par 5 was to be on the green in 3?

[@pfh_golf]

1st shot Driver 2nd shot: 7 iron if in rough, 5 wood if in the fairway

[@chrismonserrate]

I don't make mistake on the course??

[@CorekBleedingHollow]

1st mistake: Not getting there in 2

[@bodhibywater5988]

Why did it sound like you were speaking over the video?

[@macsuip2]

lay-up...

[@robbygilpin6147]

Wow they aren’t wearing the same hat! 😱

[@meandmygolf.]

We must have missed the call that day ;)

[@ethanpearson7461]

I had 260 left to the flag with no hazards, and I got guilt tripped into going for it with a 3Wood (which I’m not comfortable with), and stone cold topped it, brought that anger to my 3rd shot and topped it again. Don’t listen to other people.

[@Craftehh]

This was a disappointing video, loft out if the rough is correct, rest just will hurt you in the long run unless theres really strong wind, theres little danger on that hole so open. You'll on average hit it closer from 20 yards than 120. Just nonsense.

[@jamesstanfield4909]

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[@davidrees570]

Average golfer could hit driver , 270 yards bunkers well out of range . Stopped watching after that

[@angeloturno8261]

You guys think too much

[@meandmygolf.]

Pleasure Gelo.

[@doncrap9627]

Anyone with a haircut that bad should be wearing a cap

[@ExplorationRun]

5 iron tee shot on a par 5? That’s loser talk.

[@gomarky]

I read like you guys but you both hit ridiculously long compared to the average golfer. This is not as helpful as it could be.

[@funkster007]

My ego's pretty much ruined most of my summer golf season. If my ego had an image, it would be the shape of a 3 wood.

[@brianwilgus528]

I hate listening to someone go on and on until finally they get to the punch line. Just tell me up front how much it will cost me. I didn't wait until the end. Too long.

[@eirik.b836]

first

[@IamRayz]

465 yards par 5? That's a par 4 in my book lol

[@terrytibbs5678]

these gay guys are great. Opening up golf to other gay guys. Well done.