Mecklenburg First Impressions

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[@webguardweb8177]

A good ship in the right scenario. This ship is not for sniping while kissing the border, medium range is the right zone to play it, while constantly moving.

[@capthappy8884]

I've enjoyed mine way more than pq seems to have(so far). Best part is that while youre right, this ship can be strong at any range! Reload, # of guns, I've had my fair share of 200k games, being forced to mostly spam HE, and brawling. More diverse than many BBs. Not the best by any measure, but fun. No hydro her biggest weakness imo.

[@rexstuff4655]

Talking to people who like Mecklenburg, spamming HE at long range seems to be the wrong play, unless you're up against something trying to bow-tank. You want to stick with AP and aim at superstructure and upper belts, it has the accuracy (and quantity of shells) to reliably get good damage that way.

[@EvoraGT430]

Agreed

[@danh7411]

yes, your AP alpha has more than 2.5 times your HE alpha, definitely isn't meant to spam HE.

[@Momofukudoodoowindu]

Your AP is used when the BB you’re fighting is already permanently on fire or the CA you’re fighting is too comfortable with showing you too much broadside. Other wise, the HE meta is still pound for pound stronger and will win you more BB 1v1s.

[@kad9964]

This! I love Mecklenburg. AP spam is the way to go.

[@kad9964]

@@Momofukudoodoowindu I've tried both. AP spam is the way to go. You can do reliable damage even to angled BBs when aiming for superstructure with AP.

[@nstone2037]

I love it. I've had a lot of success playing like a super tanky heavy cruiser. Being able to reliably snipe Marceau's manuvering at 12+km is a big plus. I'm by no means a top tier player and ive still been seeing actual accuracy values over 65% in almost every game.

[@EvoraGT430]

Me too and in the same way. PQ's build is far from optimal (as he admits). It's just nice to have accurate guns on a BB (and good DPM).

[@agdthing8355]

You have to build it like a tankier hindenburg with crappy firing angles

[@skincookiez7576]

Yeah the secondaries are only 128mm all round. You really want lots of at least 150mm to really rock a secondary build.

[@kagakai7729]

@@agdthing8355 Hindenburg is a great ship and already has bad firing angles- the Mecklenburg being able to slap people with 16 HE shells that pen Kremlin deck is just the bonus

[@tae1311]

I Think your the only KZbinr who's had an issue with this ship

[@Mr-Hakim]

Quite literally

[@BigD321]

From what Ive seen, flamu wasnt too much of a fan either, really disliked the turret angles

[@supertoastboi3231]

@@BigD321 to be fair it's ether trash or busted with little middle ground with that guy.

[@wecanjump7512]

It’s all about your style of play.

[@davidqian4480]

I think that’s a good thing, differ opinion is valuable. Also for me this ships although strong not so fun due to HE spam play style

[@Swarm509]

Ran into one of these being aggressive while in a Convoy mode as I sailed my Bourgogne. I was playing close among islands to get shots in and protect the convoy (going fast and maneuvering hard) and the Mecklenburg was a bit scary to see up close (10km). Lots of secondary's shooting, and tons of fire/HE damage from the front facing guns. I was able to outrun and get behind an island, and eventually flank it it and get some decent AP shots into the side, but she was really laying into our team before we took her down. It looks like she might be a fun aggressive ship but pretty low on my steel ship list, and at long range I really don't worry about her much when fighting.

[@Omegawerewolfx]

I love it! My second game I had 190k dmg, arsonist, witherer, confederate, and a kraken. I use both AP and HE and I am happy with the ship's endurance. I have several dreadnaught awards. I prefer a more mobile game, I do not camp. I really prefer kiting in this ship. I'm really happy with steel I spent on this. Edit. I chose Mecklenburg over Bourgogne, I'm down to 6k steel.

[@eragonrank5303]

The Mecky actually has pretty decent AA, when compared to other T10 BBS of course.

[@TheShopvac]

Kind of a weird take. Meck + Lutjens and you have the best of both worlds, 16 super cruiser guns to burn down everything at 20km with amazing accuracy. The close in accuracy to vaporize DDs with the mains, armor to tank a lot of shots in close (and still have eight guns up front or back), and full pen secondaries to boot, plus torps. if you need a little extra range the spotter plane gets you out plenty far.. this thing is build for the early, mid and late game.

[@Momofukudoodoowindu]

This. There’s a lot of smooth brain takes on mecklenburg, but that doesn’t surprise me. This community has a history of completely misjudging certain ships. This thing trades overmatch but gets literally everything else in compensation. I’ll take that trade any day of the week.

[@micklane7306]

Sounds more like you get okay of both worlds Schlieffens always going to do better in the secondary category and if your wanting to run high main battery dpm what's the point in this over Hindenburg or preussen. Overall it's very lackluster sounding.

[@TheShopvac]

@@micklane7306 Meck has crazy accurate guns and a lot more of them. The Schleef is great but the main guns are slot machines. The armor scheme is arguably better on the Meck also, the secondaries are all 127's instead of mostly 105's on the Schleef. It feels like playing a Schleef that doesn't have shitty accuracy, twice the guns, faster? reload and better survivability. It's a fantastic ship.

[@danh7411]

No. Meck has less hp, worse armor and worse gun arc so she won't brawl as well as GK/Preussen. Meck also has worse HE DPM than Yohino, like why bother?? If you spam HE in her then go grind Conq or hell, Montana and spam HE.

[@TheShopvac]

@@danh7411 armor layout is better in some areas, thats just a fact. Gun arcs? Lol now you're really flailing. The gun arcs are fine lol it's a fine ship, you guys are amazing trying to make it out as a trash boat. And double lol at Yoshino? The hell does that have to do with this.

[@SappeREffecT]

Great vid PQ! I've noticed sometimes the in game audio is out of sync; I've found this is because of encoding issues to .mp4, if you change the file extension to .mov and then reroute the audio channels (PPro will read it as 4-channel, you want single channel, dual track) - it fixes the desync (if don't before importing)

[@fiokak1506]

i'm grinding Lyon and King George now and I've got to say that i'm jealous of how good Meclenburg firing angles are.

[@zakazan8561]

This wasn't my experience with the ship. I only use HE when ships are angled, otherwise I'm using the AP. The amazing accuracy on the guns ensures that AP will do enough damage at long range and also because of the accuracy and guns, you are able to mitigate the turret angles because it actually feels ok utilizing only half the turrets in stickier situations. I don't play secondary build on this ship, I play a regular tank build that shores up the hp weakness this ship has. Being able to reliably hit ships with a BB is borderline OP as you can confidently take more risks with it. I don't see how you can say it's a mediocre ship when you are able to reliably hit ships like the neptune and the neust and the pommern with consistent deadly strikes. It's not a normal BB where cruisers can sit broadside to you at less than 10km and farm you because all you're doing is either missing them with your shots or getting overpens. This ship feels like scharnhorst, but with much better guns.

[@ronchabale]

Lacks pen with 305mm (Stalingrad laughs)

[@wasalapa]

Thanks for the vid much love!

[@christophelacombe9877]

Hello , Thank you for your advice. I have a question in order to improve myself, i want to switch from static to dynamic aiming but i have a lot of difficulties. Do you also use a spécial zoom or just the game zoom. Thank you

[@gregoryfolsom7882]

Something that you didn't seem to touch on is that Mecklenburg just feels a lot more nimble than GK/FdG. Fast, relatively stealthy, and early match sniping of cruisers trying to position (full HP devstrike on a Moskva at 21km), plus crossmapping DDs who think they're safe behind an island? Love the ship, don't regret passing on Incomparable (was my second choice).

[@cheekybreeky6925]

Its an attrition ship: sit at long-medium ranges and burn the BB, support the destroyers or punish anything broadside or already on fire+large superstructure+overmachable. Then move in and finish the rest, you have the DPM, accuracy and volume to set fires and punish broadsides without relying on citadels(unlike slava). The AA is good actually(to bad it gets destroyed as any other AA), handles better than your typical german BB. It has a 50 mm side belt while it is much more vulnerable to SAP and 50MM HE penetration it also is less vulnerable to AP shells arming and doing pen damage. Better than Bourgogne??? Well if you are facing something that you cant overmatch or has limited places to overmatch or you are facing mr BBs who can overmatch 32mm of armor....yeah Mecklenburg will spit on the yamatos, hannovers, satsumas, shikishimas and even the likes of napoli, petro, stalingrad or anything that burns for 60 seconds. Remember bourgogne may have bigger guns but it still has BB dispersion with 1.8 sigma and worse DPM, while Mecklenburg fires weaker shells, it fires many of them and very accurate with great DPM.

[@gothia6515]

The typical formular WG uses for german ships. A ton of downsides for some few upsides. But i think Mecklenburg heavily scales with personal preferences. Trenlass for example is in love with it. As far i know, he uses a standart BB build on it.

[@MattTheGuitarGuy]

LOL that was an old clan mate of mine that you dev struck in the Neptune, and a current clan mate in the Neustrashimy you blapped the hell out of right afterward XD!

[@zlpatriot11]

As someone who's working towards getting his next steel ship, I'll just pass on Mecklenburg, not worth getting since I have Bourgogne. Great video as always PQ. Keep up the great work!

[@blusafe1]

Besides Bourgogne, none of the steel ships feel worthwhile. I use steel to get coal ships.

[@EvoraGT430]

@@blusafe1 Wow that is NOT good advice.

[@jonathanstone4878]

PQ seems to have a fav play style and some BB's are not suited for it like this and the Jean Bart. They are specialized ships with weaknesses, but very strong in the right hands.

[@TrailblazerAlpha]

I personally found this ship a fun GERMAN BB for the current meta.

[@Mooncricketstinks]

Only way arms race would be good is if the distinctly losing team receives the captured buffs instead of winning. Winning collects points for holding it but buffs go to losing team. That would at make it more interesting of further pushing an already winning team.

[@Dominus_Potatus]

I wonder how would you play Incomparable? I found it is fun but struggle to do more than 100k consistently

[@liamzonin2657]

What is the mod showing ship angle in the bottom left ?

[@AH-pq7yw]

You definitely should change secondary build.

[@flounder2760]

My question to you is why are you aiming for the shatters with your ap... if a bb is broad to you and your ap can't just punch through you aim for upper belt. Just set your cross hair midway from the water line to the deck and bonus points if you shoot where there is a gun barbette.that way you avoid the shatter the shell arms and if it doesn't pen the barrette it ricochet and detonate inside the ship.

[@RanRanGaming]

This ship is definitely not strong enough for competitive scenario. However, it is a decent go-to ship if you just wanna have some fun in random battles. 16 guns + decent dispersion = one of the most consistent ships in the game. Consider it as a slower but tankier cruiser that has decent AA and can dev strike cruisers that show broadsides. Bourgogne is a good ship, but it is not for competitive scenario either. It is just a different type of battleships. The path of both ships diverges and Bourgogne is a closer to a classic battleship, and Mecklenburg is closer to a cruiser play style. It is unfair to compare them together, just because Mecklenburg's small caliber gun AP doesn't do much at long range.

[@joshoriordan3325]

Says the ship is lackluster Proceeds to get 200k damage and 6 kills.

[@dany1441]

He also made it clear this game stood out. It makes sense to post the best games but they're not nearly always representative.

[@PunzL]

@@dany1441 this is the type of WoWS player to spend their wallet on a new ship after seeing a YT'er do well on it then complain when they can't achieve the same results

[@dany1441]

@@PunzL 😂

[@samuelmcdonough3605]

Super Unicom players can make a potato look good.

[@ozett8442]

I think the ship is actually very similar to Brandenburg, maybe we can call it her elder sister.

[@frattuncbas]

If you wanna burn something go with St.Vincent with %64 burning chance.

[@yamato-zi7yk]

This is my first steel ship and I definitely regret getting it. I was thinking about Bourgogne, but I also struggle with the Alsace and Bourgogne didn't seem like too much of a improvement/difference aside from reload booster.

[@dgritsak147]

I think Alsace has like 1.5 or 1.6 sigma. Bourgogne is at 1.8 I believe. On top of that, Alsace had a base reload of 32s that you get down to like 29 with the reload mod, while Bourgogne gets it down to something like 24.9 or whatever. The Alsace has an 8% speed boost, Bourgogne gets 20% speed boost, so in the Bourg your pushing close to 40kts.. I played Alsace to get to Repub and the Bourgogne is a different beast entirely. Much more DPM, more accuracy, more speed, reload booster, better maneuverability to juke, etc. The weakness is 32mm plating everywhere and having a low HP pool for a tier 10

[@danh7411]

No. Bourgogne has faster base reload + reload booster, a bit more accurate and is faster with speed boost. BG is a strong tier 10 while Alsace is a weak tier 9.

[@chris8878]

I’m Curious how this ship will perform against super dd’s, super cruisers and subs.

[@angrycolonel1957]

hey potato quality, can you take a look at the alexander nevsky soviet tier 10 cruiser?, ive been wanting to grind it but iam not sure if its worth it, i will be thankful

[@1Tankmarine]

I love it. Not in any particular order but my top Tier 10 line cruisers are from Japan, USA, and Russia (Regular, Coal, or Steel). Good luck.

[@nqgamer]

Was so good to hear someone say they don’t like arms race either. I much preferred epic centre tbh.

[@Nurg1982]

I love arms race, it adds more strategically positioning/ thinking than the epicentre. Most people play passive, so epicentre was a death sentence for a DD. and if you don't go into the cap, the BBs sitting in the back would start complaining and tanking the match because the DD didn't yolo itself into the epicentre.

[@richardchampion4826]

This is a fun ship

[@np21__13]

How do I get the mods you have?

[@hiddentruth1982]

you want to play her more like a cruiser than a bb.

[@mysticdragonwolf89]

I’ve sunk a full health Stalin with just the forward guns while the Stalin was angled All 8 shots hit the ship and the ship ceased to exist

[@jaywerner8415]

305mm, 12inch guns and alot of them? Cruiser/DD hunter probably works out well. And hay you got torpedos for the battleships or anything else that gets too close to you.

[@thedon9670]

I'm glad I went for Shikishima.

[@Train115]

The wider the turret, the worse the turret angles.

[@JLewisRacing927]

Remove 1 turret and it would be spot on as a T9

[@antoniohagopian213]

I have no idea why would someone pay that much steel for this.

[@AdamWieczorek-Vetinari]

Tenlass got already like 50 games uploaded and probably more coming

[@Roeland666]

I think you are playing it wrong, Flambass is having a blast and averaging almost 200K

[@sameh59younis15]

Agree to disagree arms race is the most fun you can have in this game so far it allows some insane pushing that wouldn't be possible without the health buffs and all that

[@mike393000]

I'm glad I got Ragnar instead. We'll see how this one looks when I get another 17k steel.

[@neishark1735]

Ragnar is amazing

[@EvoraGT430]

@@neishark1735 Until it is spotted by a Conde.

[@goldenkizaru1560]

@@EvoraGT430 Most Non-BB Ships will lose against a Conde.... that doesn't stop the Ragnar from being amazing

[@neishark1735]

@@EvoraGT430 Well, like all DDs 😂

[@poeticgrub7611]

Yes drop 2nds, this ship is not a brawler. I've taken ur points into consideration but think u still need a bit more battles in it so as to give it more appreciation lol. Luv ur vids BIG fan. Thx.

[@Luigi-uw5un]

Why secondaries tho??

[@doducduy96]

I think the ship is a ah-ok ship, it can shine in some specific situations but meh in most other cases where you’d want a Preussen instead. Not worth the coal compared to Bourgogne, Stalingrad, and Ragnar.

[@EvoraGT430]

But if you already have those 3, it's absolutely fine.

[@LastFallen]

Lets go!

[@redharvst8638]

Excellent ship in Ranked and frightening in Brawl - not so much in Randoms. Can be expensive for only those two scenarios, but that depends on how much steel you generate.

[@PunzL]

My neck broke at 6:19

[@droidmotorola3884]

this ship is more of a late game ship than early. imagine running into this thing when you are below 50% hp.

[@micklane7306]

But that's the same thing for any tier 10 bb. If I'm in Des Moines there's nothing about meklenberg that's more scary than a Montana late game.

[@EvoraGT430]

@@micklane7306 I would have though anything with 457mm+ would be scarier.

[@flamestorm21]

Mecklenburg or Incomparable

[@waynelawrence5220]

I agree with you on the games modes. As much as I disliked Epicenter and really cant stand Arms Race.

[@DaxRaider]

armsrace is by far the best gamemode sry to tell you xD also i think in survey its rated SUPER high so if u not like it thats bad for u cause it will stay xD

[@Largeportion1000]

Regardless this is a great ship, a Thunderer it's not but then again it's not meant to be.

[@geekonomist]

so I am a minute into this video, and he has not mentionned secondaries on Meck...

[@geekonomist]

A causal mention of the secondaries at the end. I dont understand why that is not discussed. We essentially have an Odin here, except that Meck that has accurate main battery, and 12.5 secondaries, and better armour.

[@geekonomist]

And better than good AA

[@codyshann]

For 6 years I was not able to sink nor even shot at a CV at the start of every game playing BB. But man, when Meck arrived, I've sunk 2 CVs for only 2 and 3 AP salvos and my Meck was a pure secondary build. Thanks for not saying that this ship is OP.

[@EvoraGT430]

Worth the steel for that alone!

[@nurulamin2673]

What do you want? A ship with 40 to 48% fire chance with 16 guns in that insane accuracy and high alpha damage? I think you should review your knowledge in balancing a ship. And if wg put all of those in the ship then you would shout saying that wg gone mad! How could they do such things! This is ridiculous!

[@micklane7306]

The point is it's a steel ship the currency that many players wait years to get enough for a single ship. When it's in that category and virtually every other ship in the category is a better option it's important people know it's nothing special even though it's being sold like it is. Meck prob should've come out as a coal or research bureau ship but wege wanted to make steel more valuable.

[@Orinslayer]

Kind of devalues the Lyon. 😑

[@sardaukerlegion]

So Bourgogne is still the better BB.

[@EvoraGT430]

Yes it is. But some can have both.

[@sardaukerlegion]

@@EvoraGT430 Another ton of steel for a worse BB? 🙄

[@tahiribnmohammad5410]

you and flambass always have opposite opinions :)

[@Billswiftgti]

This ship obliterates cruisers AND dds. With this accuracy you can consistently hit fast dds at medium range

[@chris8878]

Yea people here seem to think “bb has to be anti-bb” I bet this ship would be great support in randoms.

[@Billswiftgti]

@@chris8878 yeap, I used to think the same too. It's kinda weak against bbs, but it can be conditionally good at long range or close ambush. I got it with the coupon and I can say it's good, it's armour saved me a couple of times against bbs.

[@arkabhattacharjee776]

i dont know why u compared it with thunderer or conqueror fire chance because thunderer has 8 guns and conqueror has 12 whereas this ship has 16 guns so u can't give the same fire chance like those 2 . And this ship is pretty good because good aa , better armor and pretty good brawler with secondary and torps . i am not sure why u gave fairly negative review .

[@micklane7306]

You literally answered your own question. More guns less fire chance in practice is an overall worse firestarter which seems to be the only thing it can do at long range.

[@arkabhattacharjee776]

@@micklane7306 play the ship , see what other players r saying then u can see how good of ship this is. With same gun calibre i think Alaska and Puerto Rico has the same fire chance , and this ship is a battle cruiser so it's quite normal

[@ayayaybamba3445]

She's the BB version of the Hindenburg. She gains slightly bigger guns and more armor, but gets a worse DCP, concealment, torps, DPM, no hydro, etc. I see no reason to pick this for a BB over the baguette.

[@diegowushu]

Honestly seems really boring. I'd take literally any other steel bote before this one.

[@aproudbaguette3605]

That result was predictable, 16 305s at tier 10 ? I agree it would have been better at tier 9

[@dzy061]

For me personally, I don't see a point of getting this ship over Bourgogne, Bourgogne have better guns, reload booster.

[@ZauberGnom]

erster

[@kaiserchillhelm]

Super brudi. Bin stolz

[@thinhnguyenduy4099]

Second