MedEvac Pilot’s Fatal Mistake Is Truly DISTURBING!

[@pilot-debrief]

If you found this story disturbing, the one next week is even more shocking! While you're waiting for it to be released, check out one of these other videos on the channel that you might like: The REAL Pilot Mistake That Got Clifford Killed! 👉kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2nOp2SgobeehdE The Pilot Mistake That Killed 4 Generations! 👉kzbin.info/www/bejne/enfHpX9nqtl_bK8

[@condorb7756]

Im planning on starting flight training soon and have watch almost all of your content to feel better prepared for emergencies. My question is after the 90 degree turn would the pilot have had anyway to recover the air craft before the aircraft was torn apart. Given the lack of proficient skill of the pilot I understand he would not have had the ability but would a co pilot or a more experienced pilot on board have been able to recover? Thanks for all that you do and for your service to the nation proud to know America has/had pilots like you defending its sky's ✈

[@jersenguard]

Hi Hoover, I like your channel but wish your debriefs were more Joe Friday(just the facts) and MR Spock(non emotional). If the truth offends some to bad. Feelings don't keep the bird in the sky, good pilot skills do!

[@matthew-jy5jp]

You can totally tell how much you care about the subject matter by how many times you upload videos. You can tell that you research it thoroughly. And I like your channel because you always show respect for those that lost their lives even though it's their fault and they may have caused it. Someone still lost their life. And this world would be a better place if we all had a little more empathy. And weren't so judgmental

[@nickkerr5714]

The clickbait titles of the videos are annoying. I get it, you think it drives views, but I’m marking this channel “do not recommend”

[@pilot-debrief]

I’m not sure you understand what the word clickbait means. This is a story about a MedEvac pilot that made a fatal mistake and if you didn’t think the reason why was disturbing then I’m not sure what to say about that.

[@robertmoffett3486]

I can't imagine he was "a great helicopter pilot" either, because his defects were too fundamental. He was apathetic about all the qualities that make for a good pilot. Perhaps even cynical. His lack of improvement over the course of years, on even simple tasks, prove he had no business flying. Am I too harsh? He was a danger to the public every time he got in the pilot seat, and that should never be tolerated. Employers need to enforce standards better, too. Unfamiliar with the company checklist after two years says enough about him

[@therealajnelson]

My thoughts too. Far too many repetitive mistakes, too many times, for too long point to an attitude that does not belong in a cockpit

[@cremebrulee4759]

You are not too harsh. He was not competent. The company should not have allowed him to fly.

[@planesandbikes7353]

indeed. thousands of hours should make those emerg checklists, not to mention routine flight checklists automatic. I'm a low hours PPL and have not got a good memory for the checklists but that's only 100 hours and I stopped flying after that. Thankfully for PPL using the company laminated checklist cards is acceptable, but for professional pilots it's insanely not acceptable to not have it memorized.

[@christopher6082]

I feel terribly for the innocent victims in this, the passengers. They are the ones who put their lives in the pilot's hands every time they step foot onto an airplane. Pilots should never lose sight of that.

[@ma-jp8bf]

Yeah. I got approval to take the multi-engine fixed written based on my US Navy helo time- 1,700 hrs total, a lot of night and yeah- night over water with no moon is IMC. I only had about ~180 fixed, all of it single engine. So, took the written and got about 9 hrs training in a Piper Seminole then took the FAA check ride and passed on the first go. Which really goes to show how good the military training and operations are in focusing on and reinforcing the basics. A civilian at the same place failed his FAA check ride twice despite having 500 hrs as an instructor in Seminoles. If you're not ready and well prepared for a check ride where you know the date/time of the flight-- highly unlikely you're going to be prepared for a control or instrument degradation when it occurs. Military does a lot of training on handling instrument /control degradations.

[@flymike126]

The best work I did as a 20 yr check pilot (SA227, EMB120, EMB145) was washing people out. It didn't happen often but pilot debriefs like yours make me realize how important that job is.

[@SerenityNow....]

Nobody wants to be "that guy," but that type of gate keeping is so important. I've never flown a plane, but it certainly sounds like a very complex task, and the sad reality is, like with any complex job, that not everyone who has the dream of becoming a pilot will have the innate ability to do so...hopefully most do tho.

[@woodjacoodja9544]

Facts

[@bradsanders407]

It took a youtube video to get you to realize how important it is for check airmen to realize how important it is to have competent pilots behind the yoke? Something tells me you shouldn't have been a check airmen.

[@GlennDavey]

There's a lot of grumbling on Reddit about tough DPE's etc but I see them as being essentially life-saving roles

[@randyward2766]

@@bradsanders407 He didn't say that. Maybe you need to realize that you aren't qualified to communicate on the internet.

[@vampirebrianne]

After 2 years he didn't use checklists and was unfamiliar with the aircraft? When I was in training I was fanatical about checklists and asking my instructor to clarify any questions. Hey, I wanted to live too ! Great debrief Hoover! 💖

[@AndrewPeterson-nh4oj]

Single pilot part 135 you use flows not checklists. It gets too busy for dinking around with checklists.

[@bmw_m4255]

​@@AndrewPeterson-nh4oj WRONG

[@jay-rus4437]

At 51, with some real world flight training when I was 20, my instructor drilled that into me. Today, as a serious flight sim enthusiast, I consistently use checklists even now.

[@timchapman5567]

Hoover doesn’t suck; on the contrary, he’s dam good.

[@jay-rus4437]

@@timchapman5567 …. Who said he sucked?

[@MrSuzuki1187]

Hoover, I have been flying for over 58 years, have 30,000 hours, flew for a major airline for 29 years, and am still flying professionally at 74. In spite of the fact that I have been flying probably twice as long as you have been alive, I listent to every word you say on your videos. You are one hell of a pilot and an awesome accident investigator! Thanks for your spot on analysis of aircraft accidents. No one does it better than you!!!

[@GUITARTIME2024]

You aren't solo piloting passengers, are you.

[@nuttysquirrel8574]

@@GUITARTIME2024 Why not? Are you ageist? From his resume I'd rather be flown by this guy than brian!!!

[@TheCrucifiedMessiah-q7u]

Stop flirting 😒

[@GUITARTIME2024]

@nuttysquirrel8574 74 yr old with no co-pilot. No way.

[@ruthmichigander]

Why would they have hired him with a record like his?

[@noapologizes2018]

R.I.P. to those who perished. Whomever signed off on this pilot, should have known better. Two years and still not familiar with preflight procedures. Unacceptable.

[@jeanaprewitt9658]

The true takeaway from this is, be careful about what company you fly with. Non-airlines get the leftovers, the ones the airlines wouldn't hire because they didn't meet the standards or they didn't have enough experience.

[@greysheeum]

@@jeanaprewitt9658 Or perhaps some pilots don’t see the airlines as a desirable goal? Doesn’t mean their capabilities or skills are less (there are plenty of airline accidents due to incompetent pilots), they just don’t like that career path.

[@ajaks7636]

Killing yourself because you're a bad pilot is one thing, but taking others with you is sickening! Great Video! Thank you.

[@mijo3642]

Manslaughter

[@mijo3642]

@@thecomedypilot5894 yeah he did..

[@mijo3642]

@@thecomedypilot5894 he chose to fly into conditions he was not capable of. Just because your flight sim does it doesn't mean its real. Am done with your little dick waving now..

[@rebeccamoon5766]

This was such a betrayal of Courtney and Gabriel. They deserved better.

[@Useryofcsdnx]

And so young too. Gabriel Only 34 years old

[@condorb7756]

@@Useryofcsdnx Just turned 30 and thought id feel really old but you are so right 34 is far to young to pass. Prayer for the families of all involved and the victim's 🙏

[@clickster1883]

100% this

[@darrellhicks360]

I’m interested in the apportionment of liability in the lawsuit

[@darrellhicks360]

There’s always plenty of liability to go around

[@unclelar53]

My instructor was a checklist fanatic, and I'm glad he was. He made me read it, and verify, out loud. After 20 years of flying my 172, I had the checklist memorized, but I still read it out loud, every time. Anyway, what a horrible and preventable tragedy. Thanks for these debriefs, they help keep me sharp.

[@theburtseoni]

When getting my private pilot's license many years ago, one of my instructors was an old military pilot and instructor. He made me read out the checklist, and then touch every control and item or gauge as I read it out loud. That muscle memory makes it stick even longer in the old gray matter!

[@unclelar53]

@@theburtseoni Roger that.

[@zublacus]

Even if you have the checklist memories....USE the damn checklist. It's not hard. These stories are heartbreaking for the others...they deserved better and their employer killed them essentially.

[@rustyford3406]

I was a Flight Paramedic for 9 years in rotor wings, in the tough environment of the Rocky Mtns, however it was always dual pilot. My heart goes out to the crew aboard having to have faith in a pilot who wasn't supposed to even be in the cockpit.

[@calicoasting]

Exactly

[@jimirvine3152]

The rotor I see in Colorado only have one pilot because of the size and configuration

[@jimpalmer1969]

I totally agree. The FAA needs to rethink the whole Part 135 pilot requirements for IFR/IMC/Black Hole flying. This is happening way too often. It made me thing of the 2021 Burley ID crash of a Cessna Caravan that took the life of Chelsea Infanger.

[@funkytomtom]

Where are they running dual pilot? Never heard of this in that area.

[@rustyford3406]

@@jimirvine3152 UH-1V Models, this was back before civilian flight for life came to be, was called the MAST Program, Military Assistance to Safety and Traffic, was active-duty Army and National Guard participated and still do to a reduced degree. Technically the UH-1 is a single pilot aircraft but for the mission it was dual. I flew with the 571st Med Det out of Ft Carson covering a 5-state area. Because we were treating civilians, we had to be civilian Paramedic trained and certified. Even after flight for life came on the scene, we flew joint missions for mass cal incidents, FFL could haul one, we could take 3 if it wasn't too hot and too high. The military still does the hoist missions under the MAST Program, best duty I ever had in the Army.

[@kevinklassen4328]

As a doctor I recently had to do what was essentially a "checkride" for some foreign physicians who wanted to work in the intensive care unit. Unfortunately I could not sign off one of them as there were a few things that happened which were concerning for a lack of core knowledge. I wondered if I was being too harsh, but when I see a video like this, it reminds me of how important it is to err on the side of caution when signing off on someone who is responsible for the lives of others.

[@xisotopex]

every standard, every time and every day. if they cant hack it, send them packing.

[@MickAngelhere]

The same thing happens here in Australia, the universities were more interested in making money off the Chinese full fee paying students to really care about the standards. The majority of them were paying others to do the work for them. The one thing I kept hearing from friends who are lawyers, doctors, accountants was every time they interviewed a someone who had come from China to study and was waving their degree around, was that they couldn’t even understand the basics of the profession. Not only that their knowledge of English was extremely poor or non existent.

[@user-pb9xj8nf5v]

Perfect job, as always! We feel your pain when you have to pick apart the lives of people who piloting these plane crashes. Nobody can ever say, "hoover, try walking a mile in their shoes" because you have. I know you're not doing this for any other reason than your love for flying and trying to prevent the loss of life. Not sure if you read these but I'm the guy that isn’t a pilot and my dad was an instructor, crop duster and mechanical in the Lubbock Texas are. Keep up the great work and just know the influence you're having on people exceeds that of flying a plane. Your character is exceptional.

[@180mph9]

The company should be charged for employing an incompetent pilot, unbelievable.

[@adotintheshark4848]

not in their defense, but today there are too few qualified pilots..so much so that just about anyone who is toilet trained can be hired.

[@drats1279]

A man has got to know his limitations. Brian was too incompetent to realize how incompetent he really was. Shame on the company that hired him and retained him as a pilot with his track record of training failures.

[@mountainof7]

I'd say that's true except for the multiple failed check rides which were not kept a secret to him

[@mijo3642]

Dunning Kruger syndrome

[@nordan00]

Too incompetent to realize how incompetent he was? Sounds like a certain female presidential candidate in the news recently!

[@ronnie_5150]

Sure, but you also had a company that knew how incompetent he was, but clearly was just pushing him through.

[@divinecommerce3912]

ITS CALLED THE DUNNING-KRUGER EFFECT. Ignorance has a naive boldness 🤡

[@willpuchalsky8900]

I just wanted to say how professional you are doing these debriefs. You did a debrief on my buddy Keith Kozel and you did so well telling the story. Thank you Hoover !

[@Meh-j9s]

Flying is simply not for everyone

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

And that while Flying is really simple ! You must be an total dimb@ss, to F it up !

[@jmizzonini]

⁠@@your_very_best you’ll never be safe in all situations and there will never be zero aviation accidents . Training is very carefully constructed using tons of research on how people learn and what skills are minimum to be a safe pilot. No matter how many hours you think people should have to have or how much more money it should cost to train, there will always be accidents. And the accidents have trended down over the years so things are being done correctly

[@PS-js9oh]

Take-offs and landing creep me out ...but these days driving to the grocery store are nerve wrack'n.....

[@uiogduiogd1582]

Unfortunately, it seems no one ever told him that.

[@mathis8007]

But flying is a dream of so many people, I don’t think these folks can simply just give it away even though they’re bad at it .

[@bencompton799]

As an ex fighter pilot and airline pilot, I love how thorough your accident debriefs are, but I often have to abandon the videos before the end because I find the meaningless deaths of innocent passengers so distressing. How pilots can be so lackadaisical, unprofessional and lazy is beyond me. Accidents happen of course, even to the best of pilots, but unnecessary deaths because of pilot stupidity is more annoying than revealing. But keep up your amazing work Hoover, for those who have the intestinal fortitude to watch till the end will truly learn how not to be a piss-poor pilot.

[@saffy4352]

Brian was not fit to be a flight captain with so many failures in such short space of time! Absolute absurd amounts of errors in Brian's professionalism.

[@NuncNuncNuncNunc]

Don't forget that all of this SHOULD have gone up the parent company. He was held to the level of professionalism demanded by the ironically named Guardian.

[@samuraiwarriorsunite]

Imagine if students in medical school continually failed medical exams but were passed anyway. Any profession that deals with public safety should implement the highest standards possible, no exceptions.

[@Alwaysdirty-zj4tj]

Brian's flying skills killed 2 people and himself, enough said.

[@NuncNuncNuncNunc]

@@Alwaysdirty-zj4tj Whole point of a debrief is to discover more that needs to be said. How did so many failures go unchecked for so long is a big question that goes beyond the pilot's skill? My gut says there was a rush to get a warm body, but this is the type of question that should be asked but can't be answered by looking at the pilot alone. The holes in this swiss cheese began lining up before he was hired.

[@180mph9]

Unbelievable

[@MJBever]

FACT and professional knowledge and opinion, is NOT putting someone down or dissing anyone. Please don’t feel you need to constantly apologize during your videos.

[@Kevin_747]

Unfortunately this guy was an empty suit when task saturated. I was a check airmen for 17 years of my 40 year airline career. Issuing an unsat or pink slip to a pilot performing poorly is an important part of the job and it sounds like the company check airmen were doing their job. Up the chain of command nobody seemed to be doing their job. When a pilot shows up unprepared for a sim check it pretty much sets the tone for how the whole check ride is going to go. Sounds like the director of training wasn't reviewing the work of his subordinates. This pilot got way too many "second chances".

[@toastrecon]

Yeah, it seems like they failed him as much or if not more than he failed himself or his passengers. Maybe if they'd have kept him back, he'd have had more time or drive or whatever to get the proficiency he needed or he'd have realized that this might not have been the career for him.

[@Zzyzx--]

Agree, can not figure out how so many failures didn't "come to the attention" of the Director of Training and result in grounding until a review and correction plan were in place. That's on the company and the Director personally, makes you wonder about the rest of their pilots too.

[@45KevinR]

From a sofa this feels like the company's testers had the job to get a pass recorded. In most of his history they give him a pass on a second go during the same flight. Or the same week. So I guessing the chief only gets told or cared if the test couldn't be forced into a pass. It's a shame this culture affected flying though - it's all too common for commercial van drivers, even in the UK. Managers simply don't want to deal with someone not being good enough (yet). Fortunately it's lower risk than flying, and they do have a legal licence - it's just their ability to do the job is bad.

[@gruffy4967]

@@Zzyzx--What is the point in paying for and installing a system that records instruments and activities carried out in the cockpit and then failing to dip sample them, especially on staff who have repeatedly failed checkrides?

[@mikelomax9957]

@@gruffy4967 Great point!

[@moniqueh7948]

I know with absolute certainty that I will NEVER pilot a plane, and yet, I can't stop watching your videos!!!

[@lordlundin6495]

me either, but that's because I'm blind. :( There's a surprising amount of blind people who love aviation.

[@MGA19a]

It is still a great showcase of analytics and report on facts so it is edutainment… kind of

[@KG84C]

One of these people may be in the cockpit on your next flight though.

[@parrotheadstx]

Same.

[@dippingmyfoot]

Me, too. It really is fascinating to learn about all that is involved.

[@mikefreauf6192]

Nice review. As a flight medic, I certainly find this de-brief a little scary. I always put such trust in my pilots.

[@TheShays]

Don't be scared, be vigilant. Just like Doctors, not all doctors finished med school with excellence, some barely passed..

[@encinobalboa]

If you knew the pilot's training history, would you still trust him?

[@deevnn]

@@encinobalboa Nope...

[@mikefreauf6192]

@@encinobalboa being a flight enthusiast, if I would have known the pilots history, I would not have got in the plane. Ambo flight crews usually have a sort of work credo, everyone has to be good to go, or no one goes.

[@mikefreauf6192]

@@TheShays unfortunately medic crew don't always know the flight history of their pilots. A aircraft like the one Hoover talked about is normal for us to have only one pilot, when I crew on jets, we have at least 2, so I am always more comfortable.

[@GuruDog-xg2yd]

I have seen thousands of plane crash documentaries. This cool talking smart dude is the best narrator of flight crash films, hands down. !!!

[@chrisstorrer]

He really has this gig nailed, right? Great speaker, presenter, and decent human being.

[@eddavis1832]

Holy cow! Yeah, Brian may have been a wonderful human being, but he clearly was a “sloppy” pilot. Excellent debrief! Thank you for taking the time and effort to share this unfortunate episode.

[@tylernathan7985]

Sloppy is a nice way of putting it

[@KentRoads]

if only his mum had given a sloppy instead of having that baby

[@fdllicks]

I am a nonpilot. But even I raised my eyebrows when he said "immediately after takeoff, at 160 ft, he put on the autopilot". Even to a nonpilot, that sounded very revealing about , well, about a lot of things.

[@BegudMaximan-zp2tc]

Not being fit for purpose and being let off is no excuse.

[@InMyBrz]

INCOMPETENT is a better description of him

[@henrybecker6927]

I am a retired non rated Air Force officer and really enjoy your concise briefings. A lot of information is covered in a short time. Working in civil engineering, my guys had to pick up the pieces and map out where the debris landed first the investigators. I had a friend who flew the Air Force executive jets. Like the pilot in this video, he did not have the natural ability to fly and needed to move to another profession. He often landed hard. Once they had to send a crew to evaluate the aircraft before flying it back. I knew my shortcomings and did not even try to become a pilot. Keep up the good work.

[@bpjr1899]

Failure to failure to failure to death.......Good Grief.....Thanks for these lessons in life Hoover...

[@seaskimmer9071]

Yo Hoover, Your debriefs just get better and better. I really appreciate your way of showing empathy and compassion while not allowing any excuses. I'm sure you're familiar with the adage of aviation being unforgiving, and this case is another great example. Thanks for your hard work.

[@trailboss3131]

I'm impressed that the NTSB retrieved the records in 6,000 ft of water.

[@pimacanyon6208]

yeah, pretty incredible. more than a mile deep.

[@cubplt]

The NTSB did not recover the wreckage, Global Medical Response (Parent company of Guardian Flight) paid for the recovery.

[@FelonyVideos]

I have a hard time that the alleged images of an aircraft that is practically intact are legit, after a full speed water hit and 6000 feet of debris floating downward. The craft had to be in thousands of pieces scattered everywhere.

[@57appel]

​@@FelonyVideos The Titanic stayed together, albeit in half. Shipwrecks stay in one piece, why not a plane? It's physics.

[@Not.Your.Business]

@@57appel impact forces are a bit different between the 2 situations, don't you think?

[@Kylefassbinderful]

Debrief of *Pilot* *Debrief:* Very respectful analysis. I never thought you were slamming the pilot at any point in the video. I appreciate your straight-to-facts approach.

[@dhouse-d5l]

In the Military people like this with successive failures during training are shown the door very early.

[@fakshen1973]

​@ma-jp8bf that's a BS response. If you don't make the cut, you lose your wings. Uncle Sam doesn't f around when he loans you a bird. I've seen one woman on Debrief and the rest were white males. So where is all this DEI incompetence? Ih that's right... in your head.

[@agauerm]

@@ma-jp8bf in fact they even lowered the standards

[@andredarin8966]

@@agauermProve it.

[@kellistrong4244]

I wish we could return to when commercial companies mainly hired military pilots. It's a mess now.

[@edmundwest5636]

As a 100 percent ignorant civilian non-pilot I have a reasonable expectation that a person with this type of record will never be in charge of any flying machine in which I might travel, or which might pass overhead. How about if your surgeon had this kind of record would you just say ''sure Doc, go ahead, only half your patients die''.

[@ghtaboma]

We know you put a lot of time into these videos, and it is appreciated.

[@earlyapex911]

As an emergency medicine physician, this hits very close to home. Medical transfers are an important part of profession.

[@LegioXIVGemina]

EM physician here as well: We need a “Hoover” to debrief our medical errors.

[@jonslg240]

Somebody who fails this many check-rides in a row should never be flight instructor rated, nor transport rated. Every good pilot should have passed most of those the first try, instead of requiring 2 tries to pass anything like he did. Do you really want your life in someone's hands who doesn't study enough/practice enough to get it right the first time? Obviously not.

[@jonslg240]

*NO COMPANY should require their pilots to fly 2 weeks of daytime flights and 2 weeks of nighttime flights.* That's literally setting even good pilots up for failures. Daylight savings time (which is just 1 hour) leads to countless deaths. However, he wasn't even a good pilot. That schedule would push even good pilots to the brinks of their limits That's extreme negligence against this company in 2 ways: 1) accepting poor pilots because the work schedule would be denied by any good pilot 2) they forced a bad pilot to fly this horrible schedule, leading to deaths. I hope there's civil suits against them because of this, because they decided to let him be a pilot, and they basically forced him to fly nights/days every 2 weeks, and they basically forced the EMT's onboard to fly with him. This company should be bankrupt in the civil suits so that new companies who don't do these egregious things can take over, even if they charge a bit more. *LIFE IS ALWAYS WORTH MORE THAN MONEY IS.*

[@lawrencefisher5256]

When I see this many failed check rides and company recurrent training failures I see a red flag. I have taken and passed many check rides in career, fortunately never failed any. I see this and it’s abnormal in my humble opinion. Excellent job Hoover. You deliver a needed message yet respect the dignity of those lost.

[@pollylewis9611]

You are right Hoover the facts are the facts; this never should have been allowed to happen. If this story isn't disturbing enough yikes what will next weeks bring, wow. Thank you for all of your hard work for great debriefs Hoover!

[@pilot-debrief]

You’re most welcome!

[@glennjanello2198]

You have an amazing way, respectful, caring and factual..I applaud and thank you for your service

[@jimmydulin928]

Excellent debrief, Hoover. As an Army Huey medevac pilot, I was amazed that most civilian helicopter and fixed wing medevac operations were single pilot. That is a money issue, I expect. This one, as you pointed out, was really bad management as well. I am confident the computers help the young single pilot, but I never made the jump to light speed. I have had equipment failures IMC and going to the DG for wings level (we had RMI) was critical. Also annual instrument check rides were IMC if possible and partial panel was required. Glass doesn't talk to me (situational awareness) like needle, ball, and airspeed but should work for those trained with it. Keep it up, Hoover. We need to understand why we do what we do.

[@PeterStaniforth]

As an ex X-15, SR-71 and Concorde pilot, I agree with hm.

[@stevet8121]

Huey? Are you a Vietnam war veteran? A hero to me.

[@johnqdoe]

Moral hazard is a feature of Western capitalism, not an aberration.

[@johnqdoe]

@@PeterStaniforth 😂🫵

[@jimmydulin928]

@@stevet8121 I flew the Cobra covering my loach in hunter killer teams in the First Air Cavalry in Vietnam. It was an honor. We won every engagement of the war, but failed to recognize the big picture. We and ARVN failed to protect the people of South Vietnam from an even worse government than what they had.

[@PeterDonwin]

*I'm glad you made this video,* it reminds me of my transformation from a nobody to good home, $89k biweekly and a good daughter full of love..

[@Rufus-t3n]

Please how ?

[@PeterDonwin]

It's Maria Angelina Alexander doing she's changed my life. A BROKER- like her is what you need.

[@PeterDonwin]

$356K monthly is something you should feel differently about....

[@PeterDonwin]

Lovely! I enjoyed it like I enjoy a $100k monthly around the turn!!!

[@Thomas-l7s8b]

I know that woman (Maria Angelina Alexander) If you were born and raised in new York you'd know too, she's my family's Broker for 3yrs till now and a very good one if you asked me. No doubt she is the one that helped you get where you are!!!!

[@Rodknock_jay]

Brian was my cousin, and as a family member I miss him dearly... but was a terrible pilot.

[@robertmoffett3486]

I'm sorry about your family's loss. It's terrible. But yeah, not a good pilot.

[@BrianHoff04]

Very sorry for your families loss.

[@smal1393]

Condolences for your, and your family's loss, thank you for your honesty.

[@marksc1929]

Sry for your loss .. RIP Brian

[@CaesarInVa]

Wow, that must have taken some courage to say that. I'm sorry for your loss.

[@markserbu]

Great video as always! I'm glad you're emphasizing how flying over water at night without a moon is technically VFR, but is essentially IFR! Years ago before I got my instrument rating, I made a flight from Tampa to Key West. I took off around 3:30 am and it was a moonless night. My pilot friends warned me about the conditions and suggested I hugged the coast all the way down instead of going direct. For whatever reason I didn't take their warnings to heart, but not long after "feet wet" I understood! Looking out the windows was pointless, as everything was absolutely pitch black. I was in an old 172 with no autopilot, so I was hand-flying it. Fortunately I was in the middle of instrument training, so flying by instruments was easy enough. I was calm, in spite of my situation, but that soon changed as the ride got bumpy. So now I was over open water, 60 miles or so North of Key West, and I was in the clouds! It didn't really change my situation, as I was flying by instruments already, but now I started to panic a bit as I realized that the clouds could go all the way to my destination. I managed to get myself to what I can imagine is the calm of the doomed as they accept their fate, because I knew panicking would do no good. Luckily about 30 miles out the clouds dissipated, and soon KEYW came into view. It was a HUGE relief, the trip back was uneventful, and I haven't come close to cheating death as much as I did that night several years ago!

[@caiolinnertel8777]

I’m an old pilot and grew up in the late 70’s and 80’s flying the older instruments. I have found newer pilots easily loose spatial and situational awareness if any of the advanced avionics fail. I really enjoy my recurrent training, but I also fly my plane (C414 and other’s King Airs) as if I’m being evaluated always and working parts 121 and 135 ops. During recurrent training multiple failures are simulated and no big deal. Fly like you train. When I’m flying alone I rehearse emergencies “Oh, fire left engine” and go through the procedures. I film my flights and debrief everyone. There is ALWAYS something I find I could have done better. Great debrief, as always, really appreciate the hard work that goes into these.

[@FairladyS130]

Maybe the usually less physically active children of today grow up with reduced spatial and situational awareness.

[@TravelingPilots]

I like the part when you said “He needed someone to seat down with him and have that hard conversation”. I wonder why he tried to switch to airplanes. I believe that if in two years time you do not know how to perform a preflight then it is because you do not care to do one on the first place. Complacency case ? Maybe ?. Hard and painful to know that the phrase “rest in peace” is what finally stopped him. Great video thanks!

[@dannyadams2211]

I like how you are respectful to the pilot while still being completely honest in your criticism.

[@dadgarage7966]

I envy him for all the restraint he has when talking about these imbeciles.

[@kayak8919]

Hoover is always very clear on his own purpose-to look at facts (without emotion) as lessons for sharing valuable information that could save another pilot (and passengers) in the future ….. mistakes with deadly consequences mean Brian won’t learn a thing from the debrief but someone else might!

[@bohnulus]

Hoover, IMHO you possess a robust life philosophy. 'tell the truth' and rationally step us through a process to illuminate the best way. love your channel.

[@scottlewisparsons9551]

Thank you Hoover for another very concerning video. This fellow should never have been let near an aeroplane. He should have been grounded indefinitely. All the best from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺

[@afriendlyfaceinthecrowd]

Thank you, Hoover, for this excellent dissection of a mishap that leaves me shaking my head. With no disrespect whatsoever to Brian, at what point, I ask myself, does the individual owe it to himself or herself to have that “hard conversation “ with themselves about their fitness and abilities to safely pilot other souls? Particularly disturbing to me was the detail of turning on music during a medivac flight as PIC. The most important part of a flight overview is the PIC first evaluating himself-(IM SAFE) and going by fatigue on the night of the flight alone, it would have seemed a safer option to turn down the assignment; hand it over to another pilot, or at the very least have another qualified pilot in the right seat. R. I. P. Courtney, Gabriel, and Brian.

[@SongJLikes]

I guarantee you that Brian was 100% dependent on autopilot …. His confidence was sky high, unless he had to fly a check ride… OR the autopilot went out of operation…. Both needed to be overcomeable obstacles.

[@elizabethramsey4245]

Wjycnot give disrespect to Brian? He disrespected himself and his passengers by flying ,when for multiple reasons, he shouldn't have. He was a very irresponsible pilot!!

[@afriendlyfaceinthecrowd]

@@elizabethramsey4245 I mean this kindly, so please read it as such. Brian did not take off intending to leave his loved ones bereft. Nor did he take off intending to unalive Courtney and Gabriel. No pilot ever thinks these things ARE going to happen to them...until they do. THAT's why Hoover's debriefs are so important, to help us see where and how the holes in the Swiss cheese line up and how to mitigate, to the best of our abilities, those holes from lining up. Also, Brian's cousin is in this comments section. Brian did not take off *intending* the outcome of this flight---for anyone involved, including himself and all those he knew and loved.

[@elizabethramsey4245]

​@afriendlyfaceinthecrowd Dear Sir, of course Brian didn't intentionally go on a suicide mission. However ,I strongly feel that he was very reckless in flying that night. I don't think he thought it thru and was too much of a risk taker! Obviously also over confident In his skills as a plane pilot! These are my feelings on the matter.

[@afriendlyfaceinthecrowd]

@@elizabethramsey4245 Roger. I comprehend your feelings on the matter and agree with them.

[@carrollgarvin2136]

Hoover… how have you been able to obtain all of the related information about these accidents and incidents !? And the shooting of these Videos ? You’re providing a very valuable service for pilots and the public ! CG

[@Mark-pp7jy]

I worked at a small FBO for several years, which was the base for scheduled freight service. (UPS/FEDEX) Primarily, my duties were that of a flight coordinator. I soon realized that the pilots who walked through the door for employment, or training, were no different than any other profession. Mostly competent people, but some that were just not suited for aviation and it's demand for precision. It opened my eyes to a certain level of dysfunction between needing to uphold the contracts of "scheduled" service and putting safety above all else.

[@ClearedAsFiled]

Hoover, excellent analysis and commentary....thank you.😊.

[@AlanToon-fy4hg]

Red flags everywhere....😮

[@brianwilcox3478]

Excellent as always Hoover. I have learned a great deal more about aviation than before. It gives me more insight to what the pilots of ww1 and ww2 had to deal with. Please note there was a fatal crash at Old Reinbeck Aerodrome on Oct 5. The FAA is investigating. Their Fokker D8 replica caught fire and crashed. Condolences to all involved.

[@sarikagoode1505]

Did you know that most medical transport companies are now owned by private equity firms and indeed run as a business for maximum profit. I hear of so many of these accidents happening to medical transport aircraft, almost as often as rail accidents. The owner of this craft was subsidiary of KKR Financial Holdings LLC who bought it from Bain Capital.

[@dougbrooks2501]

Most of everything in people’s life has been invaded by this cancer. Money at all cost is the motto.

[@flufwix]

Private equity firms are a blight on society

[@catherinegee2741]

I'm married to a retired Air Force Pilot and I asked him how they could possibly have let a person with so many failures through. He said that he never should have. Someone dropped the ball. After the 3rd failure he should have been washed out and not allowed to progress further. It shows a failure to grasp the basics.

[@colinfitzpatrick3644]

Wow such a tragic case, and so unnecessary. Thanks for sharing this one.i am a flight paramedic and Educator with the largest EMS system in Canada. We have multiple airevac bases across the province and fly both fixed and rotary aircraft. We practice a " 4 to go, one to say no" rule, we never fly singal pilot, where every crew member meets at the door of the aircraft and verifies that the mission is safe to conduct.any team member pilot or medic can stand down the flight if they feel something is amiss.would have been a good practice here i think. As usual, great job Hoover, look forward to the next one.

[@markpimlott2879]

'ORNGE in Ontario Canada, perhaps?

[@colinfitzpatrick3644]

@@markpimlott2879 nope, BC emergency health services.

[@SkyeCove]

@@colinfitzpatrick3644as a BC resident, thank you for the important work you and everyone else does at BC emergency health. I’m glad to know you’re there but hope to never need your services. “1 to say no,” sounds like it can help a lot. The pressure to not be the one who calls it and says no must be real. Especially when that might mean the people you are called in to help might not get the care they need.

[@lindsayder]

I think the fact that health care is a public service provided by the government probably factors into the safety policies implemented. I'm sure Worksafe BC would have had input on or had to approve the procedures.

[@FutureSystem738]

Wow- ALL those failures! That’s an absolutely HUGE red flag. During my over 38 year aviation career, both G.A. and airlines, I failed literally nothing, EVER. That includes absolutely everything including multiple “check rides” and something over a couple of hundred sim sessions for both type conversions and licence renewals etc.

[@mmatejka01]

I watched this on other aviation channels. I appreciate how hard it was for you to go into the pilots history and lack of training. I could tell it was affecting you. But as always you keep it professional.

[@GaryNumeroUno]

14 hour night shifts! WTF! 1700 to 0700 the next morning is an abomination. Whoever drew that roster up needed shagging! I was a variable all hours of the clock shift worker as a train driver on 12 hour shifts and I can confidentially state a shift like that would have been way too fatiguing... especially a 14 hour shift! Fortunately we were not permitted to work beyond 12 hours... even then 12 hours was way too long in my opinion. Cheers Hoover. Keep up the good work. Regards from Oz. 😮

[@therealajnelson]

My gosh how can someone fail that many times and think that maybe this isn't the job for you? It's like the guy doesn't retain information very well. RIP to all and prayers of peace for the families and friends of the victims. So sad.

[@dantimber]

Personality type. He didn't see it as a big deal.

[@Lurch-Bot]

Just goes to show that having hours in your logbook doesn't really correlate well with being a good pilot.

[@pattyhaley9594]

It's called militant ignorance, thats how.

[@fu2201]

You're hired Brian

[@psrwhite]

Hoover thank you for all of the hard work you do in researching these accidents. It is sad that Brian's employer allowed him to fly with so many training failures.

[@stevekirk8546]

A painful but very honest debrief - thank you Hoover. Please keep working with Ryan Farran - a pilot who flies in very difficult places and conditions but briefs himelf constantly throughout his flights and as conditions change. A lot of pilots could learn from him.

[@williammrdeza9445]

Another tragic outcome that seems to have been preventable with proper attention to detail. So very sad for all the victims and their families. Thank you for the straight forward debrief, Hoover.

[@kevinbarry4325]

good debrief my man

[@danielfox9461]

Good grief I didn't realize flight schools work like my high school wrestling team, you won't ever get cut from the team no matter how bad u are, as long as you don't quit you r on the team. So a pilot can fail every check ride but as long as he keeps flying, he's a pilot

[@crBudgetWatches]

That’s scary. Until now I thought all pilots had the same basic skills , basic still being a very high bar and that tenure gave you more experience in difficult situations but now I would think twice of flying on small airplanes or not well known airlines…

[@dustyflair]

as long as he keeps paying $$$$ he is a pilot.

[@Premier-Media-Group]

Sadly, this is especially the mindset of teams (from many industries) in Hawaii.

[@tgcrowson]

Thank you for another interesting and informative video. Your professionalism and knowledge shines through.

[@chrisUSA]

The attorneys for the deceased need to put Guardian Flight and its corporate CEO, Director of Operations and Director of Training, respectively, out of business. They should be sued until the company pays maximum policy limits and then has to file for bankruptcy and liquidation. I’m only speculating about what steps or actions by the FAA could be taken. If needed changes were made that’s a good thing

[@encinobalboa]

That's simplistic. Yes, the company blundered and needs to pay. They should be required to change management personnel and procedures. They do not need to be put out of business.

[@Jim_Jimworth]

@@COYOTE_N8 Did you watch the video? You might want to watch it again.

[@drfabulous77]

@@COYOTE_N8 Go announce you're a racist somewhere else, shitball.

[@maltlickytexas]

@@COYOTE_N8Ok, MAGAt.😂

[@adamstevens1083]

​@@Jim_Jimworth What you're responding to reads like a bot comment. Complete non-sequitur posted solely to get people engaged on an irrelevant hot topic.

[@bobmarino350]

Great job as always Hoover.

[@PurpleDreki]

Even though I am not a pilot, I work in a complex environment, and I really appreciate your attention to detail about checklists and following procedures! It is actually a pretty simple task to do most of the time. Best not to find oneself in an emergency from not doing the checklists! My personal opinion is that Brian should have ever been allowed to fly. All of the first pass failures were big red flags.

[@Andromedon777]

This is why people need to take training very very seriously instead of just an obstacle to overcome. We're training to be safe, competent pilots, NOT to pass a check ride. Our DPE's have emphasized this many many times. We all make mistakes in our training. Lack of proficiency is surely a danger, too. You HAVE to know your limits

[@ClearedAsFiled]

Well said......❤.

[@douglaswhitcomb9729]

Extremely troubling debrief. You really feel for the medical crew and patient that perished in this horrible accident. Their families as well. I agree that fatigue should have been listed as a contributing factor. The fact that this individual was allowed to continue to fly as a Pilot in Command is really unconscionable. I also think that even though the aircraft is certified for single pilot operations, these companies should be operating them with two fully trained and qualified pilots. Especially in this particular environment of inter-island operations. Our company had a well established Safety Management System. We were also encouraged to develop a personal SMS. Over time, I found this to be very beneficial to my own development as a professional pilot. You never want to stop learning. After so many failures in training and flight checks, you would think that this pilot would have had the discussion with himself to either make the necessary changes or find something else to do. Thanks again for your efforts.

[@stanislavkostarnov2157]

no Patient, they were on their way out (flying to the small island to pick up the patient and return with him to the mainland)... this is important because they were flying/navigating in a way that would have been illegal with a patient on board, using a loophole as a private plane to fly uncontrolled & not file a flight plan of any kind... had they filed a flight plan, they would have never been approved with their onboard equipment list.

[@douglaswhitcomb9729]

@@stanislavkostarnov2157 I missed that. Thank you for the clarification.

[@stanislavkostarnov2157]

@@douglaswhitcomb9729 that was highlighted in the Takingoff channels version of the debrief.... I think Blancolirio pointed it out also... I do not believe it was mention in this video though,

[@jake_]

"Unfamiliar with company checklists, could not perform any cockpit pre-flight checks, poor knowledge of aircraft systems". OK, how is that possible. I am sorry, i don't get any of all that. It doesn't make any sense. How was he allowed to even taxi that plane, let alone fly. Are there companies out there that hire pilots like this one? The whole story is just inconceivable. I am more angry with the company he worked for, than the pilot himself.

[@ClearedAsFiled]

Exactly...where is the accountability?

[@steveo601]

That training pace was ridiculous

[@brightpathvideo]

Hoover, you are consistently professional and sensitive to the strong emotions involving accidents like this. Kudos to you and keep up the great work on this channel.

[@magnus845]

This was another excellent debrief. In the first few minutes as I heard about this particular pilot and his issues, he struck me as being someone who was very ADD. He seems to fit the ADD or ADHD pattern quite well. This is very sad for him and the ones he killed, and his family.

[@baroquejen]

That was exactly my thought as well.

[@chrisdenham9086]

I have mild adhd and the great thing about checklists (not just aviation checklists) is that they circumvent your condition and allow you to methodically prepare whatever it is you’re doing. Not doing checklists is nothing to do with ADD/HD - it’s just lazy and sloppy.

[@robertmoffett3486]

ADD or ADHD was not the issue. That could account for occasional lapses in procedures. He just never bothered to learn and follow rules properly. ADD can make one forget or overlook some stuff in a given instance, like checklist items. It does not make one stop trying to excel, and it definitely doesn't make one just disregard a company checklist for over 2 years. If anything, ADHD will make a responsible person happy to depend on a checklist, because the checklist never forgets like we do. He simply didn't care to do what he knew he should do. He was either apathetic, or even cynical, about his responsibilities, even when other, innocent lives were in his hands.

[@sarahalbers5555]

I wonder if he was on ADD meds? I am was a flight attendant for years . The vast majority of us did the preflight check list, using our manuals. Poor passengers and crew.Brian had no right to be flying. Company records reflect that.

[@n2music174]

This is scary as hell !

[@kevinparsons6065]

Brian sounds like he liked to half ass things.

[@glennbowers78]

I don't fly at night very often and I just completed a 6.5 hour cross country flight over ground a couple nights ago, single pilot. This included fuel stops at unfamiliar airports. I can only imagine how difficult that would have been without my attitude indicator and/or autopilot and over moonless water. I at least had some reference to ground because of lights. There were times where it looked like the lights on the ground were extending up an incline, but I was over flat ground. The dark messes with you.

[@yesthatkarim9601]

you’re absolutely right about the pitch black conditions being able to mess with you, but being awake too long can do that too. i once did a cross-country drive, and towards the end of the trip, i experienced a similar hallucination where the road looked like it was “extending up an incline,” while it was perfectly flat. i remember being terrified… then realizing it was a hallucination due to not having slept. big hint to stop driving! i had never experienced anything like that before or since. i mention it because the pilot in this case might have been similarly sleep-deprived. engaging the autopilot so soon after takeoff might also reflect his lack of sleep.

[@adventureswitharizonaart6117]

Back in the 90's a guardian flight iced up and went down behind my house, 80 miles from where the pilot thought he was. More recently 2 of them collided over my town, Flagstaff. I've often wondered about their operations.

[@RayPierreWhit607]

I lived in Flag for 15 years. I remember that tragedy. Would make for a good video on situational awareness and maybe air traffic control (not sure that 2nd one is applicable since they probably weren’t in a phase where ATV was involved).

[@tomjones2348]

Well done, Hoover. Thank you. I hope you'd do a longer version of this in your Q&A format.

[@ph5915]

Geez, could there actually be another case where there are non-stop issues like this one? This is so bad on so many levels. It seems almost amazing he flew enough to survive the amount of hours he had! So sorry for the loss of life, definitely shouldn't have happened!

[@moxievintage1390]

An absolutely unnecessary tragedy. It seems in such incidents, with no mechanical failures found in a fatal, single aircraft accident….we will absolutely discover poor decision making, and not just the pilot’s. Thanks Hoover, another great video…always enjoy the level of detail. 🙌🏽

[@wingmanjim6]

This is the kind of mishap that is very hard to pull off without being personally critical of the pilot and persons involved. Hoover always manages to get to the heart of the problem yet remains sensitive to the humanity involved - facts and objective constructive criticism in the forefront. That is a pretty rare skill, and it is most appreciated when reviewing the event. Thanks, Hoover, for the excellent job you do.

[@rotorfix]

A primary reason that particular industry is so dangerous is the pressures exerted by management, both spoken and unspoken. I am not at all surprised he took the flight despite the probable fatigue.

[@fjbtube6278]

One common theme in a lot of these IFR scenarios is the pilot’s inability to HAND fly an IFR approach. Seems like reliance on auto pilot systems is the default mode for most of them!

[@mowtivatedmechanic1172]

Ahhhh hang on homie. In this specific scenario he had primary AI inop as well as AP inop. I agree with you but for a 20 minute flight this scenario played out rapidly in real time.

[@chunkycornbread4773]

Switching from days one week to nights the next is probably the dumbest schedule I can think of. There is no way you can maintain a regular sleeping pattern.

[@JRNation8988]

I got my PPL in Hawaii. Flying over the ocean on a moonless night really is like flying into a black hole. Especially when your destination airport has pilot controlled lighting, and you don’t have any references until you’re within range of operating the lights.

[@fjbtube6278]

It should be classified as an IFR flight.

[@almorris171]

I read an account about a Navy RF-5 Vigilante pilot who got the crap scared out of him parking the plane after coming aboard his carrier In order to park the thing, the nose would stick out over the water as it was turning. He said he looked down and thought he was going overboard for a split second. It's easy to get disoriented. I used to hate flying in clouds in airliners cause I'd get mild vertigo when I could not get a horizon reference out the window. Course I had no gyro to assure me all was well. I never thought of it then but I could have carried a bubble level for self assurance. There I'd sit with a drink in one hand and a level in the other. 😀

[@fortresstheband]

While I was in flight school we had people who could pass a written test and ace it, yet in the cockpit they were all thumbs and could fly straight and level on an assigned altitude nor could they land the aircraft without instructor guidance everytime. Fortunately are one flight ground school instructor commander Roach would not pull punches and would tell them, they just didn't have what it takes to be a pilot and would wash them out. Thats how it should be.

[@kneel1]

ugh this is harrowing. You would think anyone with his amount of experience would perform MUCH better both during testing and IRL. Absolutely bonkers

[@limbeboy7]

People with the most experience cause most accident because of complacency

[@elizabethramsey4245]

This pilot was a walking tradegy, waiting to happen!! How extremely irresponsible to even contemplate being a plane pilot!!

[@barbarachambers7974]

It sounds like he Never should have been a pilot. Anyone who didn't stop this process should also get a blistering talking to! 🙏

[@pcaviator687]

The fact that innocent lives were lost in this incident is truly heartbreaking. They had no idea what a "dangerous" pilot Brian was due to his incompetent skills as a "trained" pilot. The complacency in his emergency situation is unbelievable...truly disturbing.

[@christianfensbo6980]

The problem with flying- any aircraft - is that when all is working as it should it’s so easy and forgiving. When it’s not working it’s the complete opposite. That’s why training, experience and following procedures is so important!

[@PeterAmes-sn4dl]

Thanks Hoover for another excellent pilot debrief!

[@billwilliams9527]

Very scary training procedures when the discrepancies in this guy's performance were so obvious.

[@awesome_comment]

This is sad enough but I'm glad the patient hadn't been picked up.

[@WebberAerialImaging]

In all similar incidents, the employers are the responsible party. Each of us has the ability to be an unqualified PIC. They are 💯 at fault for keeping such persons in the position.

[@SkipGetelman]

This is totally unacceptable How could a company keep this man flying with such a pathetic record

[@robsteal3887]

This guy should have never had this job, had no business being in that seat.

[@MJBever]

After so many fails, I cannot believe they ever gave him a license to do anything! And “Pre-Flight” failures seem like BIG red flags.

[@robinj.9329]

With RESPECT to all those folks that died in this accident: that "Pilot" should have never chosen Aviation as a career. He just wasn't "cut out" for it. And when I was trained, over 50 years ago; NO CFI would have signed you off to repeat a Check Ride in less then 60 days! Q. What has happened 😳 in the world of Flight Training that someone (obviously NOT ready) was "signed off" after only a few days????? Something really bad wrong here. (Way back then, the Insurance companies would have DEMANDED two pilots in the cockpit! Even at our local field, in the early 70's, they needed two pilots in the Cessns 421 and big twin Aero Commander. Obviously a second pilot could have made all the difference.(

[@carysecrest1827]

I was a low-time C172 driver in a flying club and realized I wasn't committing enough hours to stay proficient, so I stopped flying. I'm hooked on your videos. They might persuade others who are in my position that perhaps a different hobby is in order.