Medieval Irish Food: Peasant to King

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RECIPE
4 lbs (2kg) corned beef
1/4 cup (85g) honey
1/2 teaspoon salt
1 large head of Cabbage
1 Yellow Onion
2 Leeks
2 cups (475ml) beef broth
1 teaspoon salt
1 optional teaspoon of pepper
Boil the corned beef for 1 minute. Drain and repeat at least one more time. Mix the honey and salt together and coat the corned beef. Wrap the corned beef in aluminum foil and set in a dish or roasting pan. Roast in the oven at 325°F/165°C for approximately 1 hour per pound. 30 minutes before it is finished, open the foil to let darken.
For the cabbage, quarter the cabbage, dice the onion and leek. Place all of the ingredients in a pot and bring to a boil on the stove. Reduce to a simmer and cover. Let cook for 25-30 minutes.
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[@TastingHistory]

Happy St. Patrick's Day, everyone! If you missed last year's episode on Irish Stew, it's a little less uplifting, but it's worth watching. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWmuoXmpZqh7ndk

[@Firegen1]

Happy Saint Patrick's Day Max! 💚

[@pennyhollifield9431]

Happy St Patricks Day, Max! I just recently discovered & subscribed to Tasting (& Drinking) History. Love it - best new thing I've found.

[@seanjohnson5209]

Just curious, I have noticed a lot of pokemon in your videos, why is that?

[@theilige]

Happy St Paricks day! btw, at 1:40 ish you show the honey measurements twice instead of salt

[@josephjude1290]

Great video and commentary. Maybe you can do one for Saint Joseph on the 19th of March with Sicilian food.

[@fatcole1152]

When I was a kid my grandma referred to someone she knew as "he butters his bread on both sides" I always thought she meant he was daft or a glutton. But no! She meant that he flaunted his wealth. That's been rattling around in the back of my mind going unanswered for 30 years. Now I know. Thank you!

[@paulapridy6804]

Mine referred to a social upstart as someone who wished to "butter their bread on both sides"

[@dibutler9151]

Growing up in the Deep South, (totally no Scots Irish there, lol), I heard that phrase a lot as a kid.

[@bobetmoi2988]

here in france we usualy say "he lighted the candle on both sides" wich tell how shortened was his epicurian life

[@paulapridy6804]

@@bobetmoi2988 here in southeast America, I grew up understanding "burning the candle at both ends" as burning all your strength at once. The hare. Not the tortoise.

[@toniab5849]

That's funny cause I always thought that meant someone was bi sexual 🤣 how wrong I was 😂

[@castironchaos]

Plug for last year's St. Patrick's Day video on Tasting History: "Irish Stew". One of Max's best history lessons, revealing the horrors of the Irish Potato Famine. Also, Irish Stew is a wonderful dish that's worth making as well.

[@Firegen1]

Hear hear! It's one of my favourites ❤💚

[@johnnypatrickhaus890]

One of the best mini explanations of the Famine I've ever seen/heard. I've watched it at least 27 times. I crack up every time Max says "I hate that guy" in reference to Trevelyan. The massive gowl.... (Trevelyan, not Max) Ps. RIP Peter St John 😢 🙏 💚

[@Tinymoezzy]

Thank you for the suggested video. I'll check it out.

[@Nick-nv5fy]

Most definitely, hard to go wrong with an Irish stew!! Here’s the link to it m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWmuoXmpZqh7ndk enjoy!!

[@TheRatedOniChannel]

Also worth to watch about the Potato Famine on Extra Credits, it really opens your mind about that whole, you know, the Luck of the Irish, whenever someone says that unironically I want to punch them in the face.

[@TheShadowChesireCat]

Me: *stares in horror at Max threatening me with the "luck" of my ancestors... who ended up so poor, they had to steal to get by, which got them sent to Australia as convict labour*

[@neon-heart]

Same here!

[@jeffmatson2046]

Do we All Understand ,How Horrible The" Past EnglishMens " and The Upper Classes Of England's Government ! The Deliberate "starvation" and Demands Rents for basic living on a piece land that can not Reap any crop of positive ,Harvest ! But subject a family to actual death. And Not helping your Fellow Man ! But the creation of bull-Shit accusations and Made-up Laws that Favored the "Upper-classes"" landlords" . The lack of Caring upon Others . Has Driven a ""Spike"" Thru All Irishman's shall not forget ! The Bottom line is to genocide the Irish . And to invade the North. The United Kingdom knows this History ,And still hasn't brought what lords of financially Means to court for Reparations towards descendants and current living in Ireland and Dus lands still. Listen Im Not asking for "Violence" ! At All . I would like to see Families In Ireland be given a helpin Financially towards thier lands from descendants falsely convicted out of they're Families lands. We need A healing of Reality . We shall Never let genocide or human beings freedoms taken Away , just Because A small group of outsiders want to steal and reap the benefits off the backs of the "POOR!" We shall Not Forget ! Because Vladimir Putin is currently doing the same thing all about stealing for Another countries assets for V.Putin coffers. Listen up Folks He'll Starve the poor so his cronies Can be Well Feed and again Align his pockets with the Dead One's Bread! Protect All lives that matter. Are We Clear?!. Everyone! Oh thank yu for the Recipe .

[@cocorose7261]

I always wondered where the expression came from. I've read a german history magazine about Ireland, and in the introduction they Said: "There probably isnt another european country that has had it worse, has been so downtrodden and had tough luck as often..."

[@MossyMozart]

@TheShadowchesireCat - With the oppressive laws placed on the Irish by the English, the poverty, and the famine, perhaps the luck was living through it all.

[@tylercoon1791]

Well, ‘luck of the Irish’ is historically used ironically, referring to bad luck of Irish miners

[@SadbhW]

As a born and raised Irish person I really appreciate you explaining that corned beef and cabbage is an Irish-American tradition, but even more that it is in a medieval Irish tradition, I had no idea!

[@WildlifeWarrior-cr1kk]

I'm an american and I knew about Irish american tradition cabbage

[@Minime163]

Me neither

[@Lauren.E.O]

I love that medieval lawmakers spent time working on specific exceptions for werewolves 😂

[@TastingHistory]

Gotta be prepared

[@ragnkja]

But only in their wolf form

[@stefanalexanderlungu1503]

I'm wondering if that meant people with rabies or some other disease that affects the mind.

[@p.s.shnabel3409]

This made me think: what if in a thousand years archeologists find our phrase "don't feed the trolls".

[@tantamounted]

Oddly enough (I haven't watched the episode yet so I don't know if this was addressed), in some traditions werewolves are helpful beings (noting the family, provider, and guardian aspects of the wolf) rather than creatures of madness or famine.

[@dcchillin4687]

I really enjoyed "if your wife is pregnant, you HAVE to feed her".

[@CallanElliott]

Every sign has a story too...

[@celestef9727]

Only if you want to live...

[@McNubbys]

Do we?🤣

[@BogeyTheBear]

A lady's comfort comes before a gentleman's convenience. Rule #1.

[@abdulalhazred3027]

I just made this. My God it is rich. The fat melts like butter in your mouth. The meat is so tender and packed with flavor. It is so simple, yet so delicious. This recipe is going on a recipe card. 😋

[@TastingHistory]

Yay! So glad you enjoyed it.

[@happymonk4206]

It's so good, your absolutely correct. One of my favorite things.

[@nartyteek]

Bro, the fucking love in Irish food and Jewish food and cultural exchange through eating each other's food makes me very emotional.

[@DrCroccer]

I believe the medieval Irish term for a freeman, "Bóaire", translates to something like "cow-lord". So I guess that demonstrates the importance of cattle to early Irish society.

[@jlshel42]

Flash forward in time, cowboys become symbols of truly free men :)

[@BoxStudioExecutive]

@@jlshel42 yea, doing hard labor every waking moment of your life where you had a high chance of suffering death or debilitating injury for poverty level wages surely made you free. lmao

[@TheWhiteDragon3]

@@BoxStudioExecutive Compared to actual slavery practiced not two years prior, yeah actually, it was very freeing. A man could live and die in control of his own life with the freedom to go where he pleases without a master to literally chain him to a post.

[@jlshel42]

@@BoxStudioExecutive …and they chose to do so freely!

[@riograndedosulball248]

@@BoxStudioExecutive I don't know what the hell city people think doing farmwork is like. be it cattle or agriculture, I work largely the same way as my great grandfathers would (with few amenities in comparison) and I'm not dead or crippled, nor working every single waking moment lmao

[@mrJohnDesiderio]

Damn those Viking overlords , keeping all the Kerrigold to themselves!

[@ravenzyblack]

I actually bought Kerrigold Butter last week, forgetting St. Patrick’s Day was the 17th.😄

[@AppliedCryogenics]

I want to mention that burned seaweed is going to be an unprecedently amazing source of iodide! In fact, seeing purple fumes rising from such a fire is pretty much the norm.

[@simongreen6788]

₩ !please 9

[@simongreen6788]

P .

[@Twe4ke]

Have you considered putting together a cookbook of all these historically-based recipes? That'd be LEGIT and I'd buy the hell out of that.

[@TastingHistory]

Done! It’s available for preorder and comes out in April.

[@Twe4ke]

@@TastingHistory you’re straight gangster! Thanks! 🙏

[@Dinnye01]

@@TastingHistory Good. That's a sure purchase for me.

[@Scar-jg4bn]

@@TastingHistory oh my god, yes! 🙏

[@zxyatiywariii8]

@@TastingHistory Verzothe I thank thee! 😃

[@samiam2088]

As an Irish-American Jew from NY, the idea that corned beef and cabbage has a Jewish influence bc of kosher butchers makes me smile :)

[@elecktrobunny]

There's dozens of us!

[@codiefitz3876]

Gotta get your hands in fucking everything

[@jeef16]

wow, another irish american jew from NY. we're a rare breed

[@eskarinakatz7723]

I’m Irish-American and Jewish, but from Texas!

[@pokekohn]

It's crazy how interconnected the minorities in places like New York were. Irish, Jewish, even Chinese Americans all played roles in each other's cultures

[@Firegen1]

Happy Almost Saint Patrick's Day Max and Jose 💚. I never realised the corned part of corned beef was based on salt. As an English woman English salt is often best extraced when your aunt asks why you are yet to marry.

[@TastingHistory]

🤣

[@frostincubus4045]

South East Asian salt too😂

[@genghiskhan6809]

@@frostincubus4045 🤣

[@ellieechoes]

There is less salty version that happens right after university, "So now that you've graduated, what's next?"

[@dewilew2137]

This must be a universal salt 😂😂😂

[@ww6156]

Ha, I was sitting here thinking "I've always had bacon and cabbage in Ireland not corned beef" and there you go, all expertly explained. Love this channel

[@conordolan6651]

And you would be correct... Corn (maise) does not grow well and is not native to Ireland so how could it possibly be in a medieval recipe? Barley yes... Oats yes... Wheat... yes... Corn... NO!!!!!!!!!

[@lobsterbark]

@@conordolan6651 Corned beef doesn't have corn in it lol.

[@CallanElliott]

@@conordolan6651 Corned beef takes it name from the old meaning of the word 'corn', that is large kernel. In this case large kernels of salt.

[@austinweaver5649]

@@CallanElliott Also even if corned beef did use corn, they did have corn in medieval Ireland. Corn as an older english word referred to grain in general. What we call corn today is actually maize.

[@theresapebbleinmyboot]

This was fun to watch, as a Jamaican, corned beef and cabbage is a big deal 😂 it's so good in Ireland. Traveling around Europe, it was fun to see how many of our foods were influenced by our colonizers. Portugal had some of the BEST SALTFISH/BACCALAO that I've ever had! Our national dish is Ackee and Saltfish so it was fun to learn about how it's eaten there. Food history is the best!

[@markobighead3173]

Corned beef & cabbage isn't eaten in Ireland as a meal. This is an American bastardisation of our traditional bacon & cabbage that we eat routinely, that simply changed along the way once we emigrated to the USA during the Famine, much like how when we brought Hallowe'en to North American shores, we replaced the traditional turnip jack-o-lantern with pumpkins because they were easier to carve and acquire during American autumn. And yes, when you have little to no culture of any real value (like most people of African descent), you can be sure any cultural habits you have are the result of Europeans who enriched your nations. You're welcome.

[@chronicawareness9986]

yin and yang.. with out bad things some good things would never have happened. like if you all where not colonized bob marley would never have existed.. or reggae.. and so on so forth.. like american bbq aswell..

[@res1dentcyn1c]

@@markobighead3173 enriched isn't exactly the term I would use, but your history is sound

[@2degucitas]

So, what is the best canned corned beef?

[@fabdiva9]

@@markobighead3173 jesus christ

[@alliewhitlock621]

As a insular art historian (basically I specialize in Celtic art in the British isles from the time of the Romans to the Norman invasion) I loved this. Also there is some scholarship that suggests that the cauldron of plenty was the inspiration for the holy grail in Arthurian lore.

[@johnnypatrickhaus890]

Yep. That's absolutely correct. There was a whole lot more to-ings and fro-ings between Britain and Ireland than people know. Sure legend has it that St Patrick himself was taken from Wales by Irish pirates. Which definitely suggests cross border commerce 😆. Did you know that a klepsydra was found on an archaeological dig in Ireland? Trade was apparently flourishing. Take care and mind yourself. May you be half-an-hour in heaven before the devil knows you're dead 💚 from 🇮🇪. Ps. The Republic of Ireland is no longer a part of the "British Isles" just FYI. Historically yes. Contemporarily, absolutely no. 😆

[@alliewhitlock621]

@@johnnypatrickhaus890 as I continue my studies, I live, eat, breath 5th-9th century art and culture. Sometimes names of places, cultures, languages etc. that are correct and proper for that time period aren't so now and I sometimes fall victim to that habit of talking history as if it were current. I'm definitely aware that the mistake of combining The Republic of Ireland with the UK is a big no-no. Considering I'm moving to the UK (Scotland) in September, it's one of the things I made sure to get in my head quickly as to not offend.

[@johnnypatrickhaus890]

@@alliewhitlock621 Maith thú! Best of luck! The Scots are absolutely brilliant people. My Celtic brothers and sisters. They will make fun of you in ways that might seem insulting. They're not insulting you... they're just being friendly. If a Scottish person is being perpetually polite towards you... well then ... you've done something wrong 😆 Take care and best of luck with your new life. Ps. When you get the chance, go see massed Highland Pipers (I'm Irish so I prefer the Uilleann pipes but those Highlanders shred the pipes) 💚🇮🇪

[@alliewhitlock621]

@@johnnypatrickhaus890 1) I'm of Scottish decent (like half of America). I wonder if the friendly teasing is a genetic trait. Teasing is how my family expresses love 😂 2) I will definitely go check them out. Thanks for the tip! I really appreciate it!

[@johnnypatrickhaus890]

@@alliewhitlock621 OK.. I see where you're coming from 😆 I guarantee you that whatever you experienced, you will be a little shocked in Scotsdale... lol Scotland... (typo) In Scotland the C word is basically an adjective and frequently a term of affection. It's weird. When a Brit or an Irish person says the C word, it just rolls off But when an American says it... it really sounds rude. Like... really rude and offensive. Languages and colloquialisms are so strange 😕 😳

[@NoJusticeNoPeace]

There's been a lot of studies done on the traditional Irish diet under the "loving feet" of the English because of how restricted it was, how widespread it was, and for how long people survived on it: entire generations. It turns out that the Irish diet of potatoes, oats, and milk contains everything a person needs to survive indefinitely; not in ideal proportions, but in sufficient macro- and micronutrients not to start getting weird and exotic diseases from lack of things like arsenic and selenium in the diet.

[@mattwardproductions7399]

The loving spiked, barbed shoes of the english

[@NoJusticeNoPeace]

@@mattwardproductions7399 The loving English feet, they walked all over us.

[@mattwardproductions7399]

@@NoJusticeNoPeace I do enjoy the green and lovely lanes of Killashandra

[@NoJusticeNoPeace]

@@mattwardproductions7399 The sassenachs, not so much...

[@Beedo_Sookcool]

Nice to see the old hatreds and prejudices being kept alive. 🙄

[@dsadgegdsg4740]

On the subject of the gluttony demon: MacGonglinne's treatment for the king resembles traditional remedies for tapeworms, a more figurative type of gluttony demon. The idea was that fasting would starve out the tapeworm, and you had to induce it somehow to climb up the digestive tract and out the mouth in search of food.

[@Flippokid]

Wtf that happens?

[@slwrabbits]

​@@Flippokid No, you and the tapeworm just both starve.

[@sthenotheG]

This reminds me of a joke they tell in Spain. It goes like this: "A man goes to the doctor and says: - Doctor, I have a tapeworm. And the doctor says: - Don't worry. I have the treatment. In a week you will be cured. - Really? How are you going to do it?" - Very easy. I'll give you an enema of coffee with milk and a muffin. Lie on your back on the stretcher and we'll start the treatment. So they do this for 6 days and on the seventh, when the man arrives he sees that the doctor has prepared the enema and a brick. The poor man asks: - What is the brick for? - Today we finish the treatment and I will only put coffee with milk in the enema. - Will it work, doctor? - Yes, you'll see. They proceed to do like every day. The doctor gives him the enema and stands behind the man with the brick on hand. A few minutes pass and the tapworm comes out and says: - Where's the muffin?! And the doctor crushes it with the brick."

[@markscott7324]

I am Irish and I was totally bemused the first time I was in the USA for Paddy's Day and every bar was serving Corned beef and Cabbage. I never ate that at home. Never! Thanks for explaining why this happened over the pond. Quite sure I won't get the same dish tomorrow as I live in China now ;)

[@Just_Pele]

My wife wants to thank you for your garum recipe, she uses it in quite a few recipes now. I can attest to this, due to how often she makes the stuff. It's impossible to miss that... aroma. 😆

[@TastingHistory]

No way! That’s so cool, and I apologize 🤣

[@Just_Pele]

@@TastingHistory It's worth it, it really does add an additional umami layer to the dishes. It doesn't take very long to acquire a taste for it at all, I can see why it was so popular for so long.

[@revinaque1342]

Your wife makes her own garum??? That's amazing! Just out of curiosity... Why doesn't she use fish sauce from the Asian grocery instead?

[@Just_Pele]

@@revinaque1342 Homemade garum does taste better, Asian fish sauce isn't really the same. You can buy actual garum as well, but the stuff that tastes like homemade is pretty expensive.

[@dayaninikhaton]

No reason to make a stink about it. ;) Wouldn't it be wild if Max inadvertently made garum as popular as it used to be with the Romans?

[@CathalMalone]

You need to try Irish "spiced beef" - it's only really eaten in Cork, and then usually at Christmas. It's a form of corned beef with spices and saltpetre, usually boiled (and then maybe baked) on Christmas Eve and eaten cold with Christmas dinner. It's delicious, and often accompanied by pickled red cabbage.

[@GrandeSalvatore96]

If it’s an old Viking recipe there’s gotta be a video in that.

[@johnnypatrickhaus890]

It's not Christmas without the smell of Spiced Beef. Just the smell though.

[@jlshel42]

This is rather tempting sounding

[@phinehasjacob9122]

Saltpeter?? Like from gunpowder.

[@johnnypatrickhaus890]

@@phinehasjacob9122 yep. The very same. Numerous uses like. It's used to preserve the colour of the meat. It's in most pork products and you'll see it listed in the ingredients a "potassium nitrate"

[@kylie-anneconnell4350]

I’m in Australia and the way my mum taught me to make corned beef was to add honey, vinegar, peppercorns and a couple of chopped up onions and carrots to the boiling water. Simmer for a couple of hours and about a half hour before the beef is cooked throw in some potatoes and pumpkin into the pot and you have the most delicious dinner ever. And you also have to make a white onion sauce to smother the corned beef in. We never put the beef in the oven but I bet it would be fantastic!

[@emmathefabulous]

I love that you included Irish subtitles! It means a lot! Go raibh míle maith agat Max!

[@tigershirew7409]

My grandfather was born in Ireland in the late 1800's (and moved to Canada in 1911) and he used to talk about having potatoes and point. That was where you ate the potatoes but you pointed to the ham hanging on the back porch because you only got it on Sundays. :)

[@lhfirex]

My St. Patrick's Day menu is going to be from Chef John, actually: Beef and Guinness Stew with soda bread for dipping and soaking up whatever's left in the bowl.

[@TastingHistory]

Waiting for my invitation…

[@tarmaque]

@@TastingHistory Beef and Guinness Stew is not difficult, and is delicious. However it's not really old enough to be considered "Historical."

[@MononokeLynn]

Switch your soda bread with Irish brown bread with some kerrygold butter. Brown bread is the bee’s knees.

[@PM-xu2nq]

@@MononokeLynn Wheaten bread ftw

[@mechanicalman1068]

My first girlfriend, here in America, came from an Irish family. We’d have corned beef and cabbage for St Patrick’s day, but her mom said she’d never had it as a meal until she moved to America in her mid 20’s.

[@richardfallon5507]

correct, corned beef and cabbage must be an America dish , we never have it here in Ireland,

[@victoriaolson8985]

In Irish supermarkets, the country’s obsession with butter is on display. The selection of brands is huge. No shortage of butter there.

[@jeepstergal4043]

I recall the older Irish ladies saying, "Don't be afraid of the butter!" They also would shoo us kids out in the rain, saying, "Yer not made o' butter, you won't melt!" Butter is definitely part of the culture.

[@snr9365]

Fun episode! Also, Max, green is YOUR color. It makes your eyes POP!

[@40KoopasWereHere]

Hah, noticed that too, the shirt works!

[@aalihte3378]

Like REALLY pop!

[@rgerber]

@@aalihte3378 that pop don't matter nothing if your luxurious cruise ship hit an ice-berg -BUT- it's true

[@rionthemagnificent2971]

I guess Pink Floyd is right.. "Green is the Colour."

[@castironchaos]

Also, a suggestion for next year: At the beginning of March, make your own corned beef and brine it for a week. Homemade corned beef is EASY to make (if you have the right spices) and it is far, far better than store-bought corned beef. Store-bought corned beef is good, but making it yourself really is that much better. Do try it!

[@fedra76it]

As an Italian with no access to store-bought corned beef, I'd love to receive instructions on how to make one at home. Every time I go to the UK or Ireland, corned beef sandwiches are a must, I'm just fond of them.

[@BarbaraSwanson]

My daughter and I have each made our own corned beef. Fun, interesting and very much better than store-bought!

[@castironchaos]

@@fedra76it This KZbin channel doesn't allow posting direct links, so I would suggest looking on KZbin, or Google, for instructions on how to make your own corned beef.

[@joanhoffman3702]

And there is the idea for next year’s video!

[@lisacastano1064]

@@fedra76it Townsend's did a video on salt pork a few days ago you make corned beef the same way but use the pink curing salt.

[@kimberleyrumburg9472]

When I lived in Ireland I saw corned beef once. Most people had never even heard of it. But boiled bacon was a normal weekly meal. It was made with cabbage, carrots, potatoes, just like we do the corned beef. It's better than corned beef. In fact, boiled bacon is one of the best things I've ever tasted! I love that you mentioned the bacon. It's more like a ham than how we think of bacon

[@pterodactylbull]

That’s interesting down here in the south (US) that’s how we make our cabbage as well. We’re more connected as a species than we think and the more i age , the more i know this to be true.

[@richardfallon5507]

correct, in Ireland we have NEVER eaten corned beef and cabbage,

[@lovelyhurlin6494]

In Ireland we would normally boil the cabbage(and/or turnip) in the salty water that the corned beef or ham has been boiled in. Great vid, Go raibh maith agat!

[@mzfreddie]

Had corned beef earlier this month at my mother-in-law's. Fun fact: she has a friend that's Irish and when their friendship was young she asked said friend how often corned beef. The friend looked at her like she was crazy and was like "we don't eat that in Ireland". 🤣

[@TastingHistory]

Yep, it’s an American thing now.

[@mzfreddie]

@@TastingHistory it was interesting to learn here how it came to be an American thing though!

[@mattwardproductions7399]

@@TastingHistory yeah it's ham and cabbage. Our ham being uncut back bacon. Edit: and it was actually addressed! Nic

[@petergray7576]

Kosher butchering has it's own colorful history in the USA. In fact it could be a Tasting History video subject on it's own. Edit: Might as well be a history on delicatessens in North America. Every Subway foot long sandwich is a grandchild of Ashkenazi entrepreneurs and their meat preferences. Also... did you know that the introduction of pastrami to American consumers was prompted by a rather unappetizing murder committed by a Chicago-based sausage maker?

[@jonesnori]

@@petergray7576 No! Do tell.

[@Welgeldiguniekalias]

Cows give milk, but bulls do not, and a farm only needs so many oxen. Therefore, the more milk you produce as a culture, the more beef you generally end up with. If even the lowliest peasant gets some dairy, there will be plenty of beef to go around for the posh folk.

[@theressomelovelyfilthdownh4329]

I'm Irish, and I have never had corn beef and cabbage. Nor have I known anybody to mention eating it. What we do have is pundies/champ, cabbage and thick slices of bacon or gammon. Yorks, a large leafy dark green cabbage, and it's normally thrown into the pan after you take the bacon or pork out. Pork chops or any other cut is grand. But you want something fatty.

[@richardfallon5507]

correct , it must be an American invention,

[@romulanspy4972]

TIL I've been cooking corned beef wrong my entire life. I made this and it is FABULOUS. I'm never going back to my family's way of simmering it. Thanks so much for sharing! ❤️

[@elennapointer701]

Interesting note about honey: it was also used by surgeons and healers because of its genuine antiseptic properties. There are stories (some pretty horrifying) of battlefield surgery in which honey is a major treatment. The most well known is that of Prince Henry (the future King Henry V of England) who, at the Battle of Shrewsbury in 1403, was hit in the face by an arrow that penetrated deep into his skull and lodged behind his nose. The royal surgeon/inventor, a man named John Bradmore, made a special device to pull the arrowhead out and, to stop the wound festering in the period between receiving the wound until Bradmore's device was ready (he had to invent it more or less from scratch), the wound was filled with honey and wine and covered with a poultice. The pain must have been excruciating, but Bradmore got the arrowhead out and because of the honey, there was no infection. It's also why there were never any portraits of Henry V from the front: he had a horrible scar for the rest of his life.

[@adaywithsmator]

Just read this comment after watching a video about that exact surgery

[@marialiyubman]

They need to bring back “sea ash” for one of those fancy salts…

[@petergray7576]

"Sea ash" is just potash/potassium chloride (KCl), which is a secondary compound in sea salt. One can buy "low sodium salt" that is 70% KCl by mass.

[@fedra76it]

I smell business, here! Someone should really do it.

[@marialiyubman]

@@petergray7576 well, don’t tell them that. Lol. (Thank you for the explanation). I mostly imagined it being something like barbecued seaweed. 😍

[@KiltedShepherd]

@@marialiyubman Like an Irish furikake lol

[@mollybailey4286]

@@KiltedShepherd that already exists. I use it

[@cack_tus]

I’m obsessed with this channel AND the Pokémon that are chosen 🤣 I like to think before each video, he stands in front of a wide plushie collection like 🤔

[@campcookhenry]

My mom was from Ireland and never saw corned beef and cabbage until she moved to the states, but she made colcannon every Saint Pats day and I prefer it

[@aidanfarnan4683]

"So if you have any friends that are possessed of a daemon, The first step is to get them to share an apple, Then a couple of days of fasting, and finally make them a wonderful dish of Medieval corned beef and cabbage!" *Me, who skipped ahead to the 'Burn down their house' step:* "Well, heck, now I feel foolish."

[@susanfarley1332]

I thought about burning down the house too. I bet that would not go over very well nowadays.

[@brucetidwell7715]

But in the end all he actually had to do was read a few Bible verses.

[@iac4357]

"THE ROOF ! THE ROOF ! THE ROOF IS ON FIRE,,,,,,, !".

[@Kenko706]

"You set my house on fire." "Well, yes, but it--" "You set my bloody house on fire!" "That's part of the process, after all, so--" "THERE'S A DEMON ON THE ROOF OF MY HOUSE THAT IS ON FIRE!" "Yes. There is. And it is. Now shut the devil up-- so to speak-- I have gospels to read at it!" "And I'll never be able to get that stockpot clean after this..." "Oh, now you quibble about the stockpot..."

[@Ideo7Z]

Imperium Inquisitor: You did the right thing son. Unfortunately you saw a daemon so, BLAM...For the Emperor.

[@ohariana3150]

An Irish medieval recipe? We're being treated this week y'all 🇮🇪💚

[@rogerjclarke]

Glad to see you pointing out that corned beef and cabbage is an Irish-American invention. I'm Irish, living in Ireland and I've never tasted corned beef.

[@CuidightheachODuinn]

It's kind of like fortune cookies or tacos where so many people think "oh yeah, Chinese. Mexican." when in reality it's pretty much American with influence.

[@richardfallon5507]

neither have most Irish people.

[@alexk7973]

whenever I learn more about medieval society it just strikes me how ironic it is, that the period is mostly known for being lawless and uncivilized, the rules for society couldn‘t be more rigid.

[@purplealice]

In Irish mythology, there's a description of the palace belonging to one of the gods - its pillars were made of butter and the roof was made of lard, depicting how wealthy the god was.

[@conordolan6651]

Irish mythology didnt have gods... I think your getting us confused with Ancient Rome and Greece...

[@XxX-vi9if]

@@conordolan6651 Are you saying Celtic mythology isn't real? :0 what about all those stories of the Tuatha De Danann and whatnot?

[@austinhamilton1234]

Now I know where "buttering your bread on both sides" comes from. The more you know

[@peterdcrowley]

can confirm. am irish from Ireland and have never heard of this being a traditional meal on Patrick's day

[@richardfallon5507]

True, it does not exist here.

[@nessamillikan6247]

"So no gulping your whey water while enjoying your wild pig". This line caught me off guard so fast that I choked on my laughter.

[@sanveersookdawe]

From Binging your videos recently, I noticed the use of different pokémon in each video consistently. Even sometimes matching the theme or food in the video! Thanks for that little easter egg

[@TastingHistory]

And so far, no repeats

[@mrbuttocks6772]

@@TastingHistory And you likely never will! With over 800 Pokemon and countng.

[@TastingHistory]

@@mrbuttocks6772 they need to pick up the pace on making plushies of them all

[@sanveersookdawe]

@@TastingHistory I'm now quite curious to see what your collection looks like🤯

[@mrbuttocks6772]

@@TastingHistory Sadly they likely won't do that.

[@MasterAttendant]

That looks good! The only corned beef that I know is the shredded type that comes from a can, we fry it up with some onions sometimes adding diced potatoes or shredded cabbage or canned corn. Yep we add literal corn in corned beef.

[@adventureswithcorrine]

Miss m, if you are in the USA, you'll find corned beef in the meat section of the grocery store along with directions to cook. They come in vacuum packed bags along with a pickling seasoing packet. In my youth, we cooked the beef until it was fork tender (hours) in a crock pot. Near the end, we add potatoes, carrots and cabbage to cook in the broth. SO GOOD!! Slice the beef across the grain and it falls apart.

[@crains8087]

@@adventureswithcorrine this might be regional in terms of availability.

[@lisacastano1064]

@@crains8087 nope every Walmart has it especially in March.

[@fonkbadonk5370]

@@lisacastano1064 Availability at Walmart still makes it highly regional, globally speaking.

[@sgtbrinny8982]

My granny's parents came from Ireland in the 1800's. Growing up we always ate corned beef and cabbage in the Fall. It was a tradition to eat it around the first day of Fall.

[@lawrencetaylor4101]

Merci beaucoup for this. My Mom made corned beef and cabbage often for our large family. One of my favorites.

[@chrisball3778]

This was confusing to me because in modern Britain and Ireland 'corned beef' refers to jellied minced beef, usually sold in cans- a bit like Spam. It's really more of a budget food than something for special occasions. Seems to be a different definition in the USA, although both are preserved, so probably it's a fairly recent fork in their meanings.

[@FleaChristenson]

As a kid we ate canned corned beef. Very jellied. So it exists in the US. But we also buy corned beef in the butcher section. It’s usually most available this time of year.

[@ginalou5774]

We ate corned beef with white sauce, cabbage and mashed potatoes as a kid here in Australia. Quite common in ye olden days when I was a kid. My mother-in-law also makes it. But she doesn’t usually bake it. She boils it with onions and other stuff. Yummy. I unfortunately have no corned beef making skills. Mine never tastes as good as my mum, grandmother and mother-in-law’s. I might try your recipe out instead.

[@WombatDave]

In the US it is generally sold as "Corned Beef Hash"

[@WombatDave]

@@bcaye I was talking about the canned stuff. I know that the brisket can be bought at every store.

[@mollybailey4286]

@@bcaye I think that depends on where you are. I get corned beef brisket this time of year, because it isn’t available most of the time. The sliced and canned stuff always are.

[@Zelmel]

For a modern corned beef I'd prefer mustard over any honey/sugar. I love adding a ton of mustard powder to the corned beef and then using some potato and carrot on the side for the sweetness.

[@SaturmornCarvilli]

I decided to go with this for my St. Patrick's Day meal over my usual cream of potato and leek bacon soup. To the corned beef, I also added some coriander seeds. Along with some roasted potatoes, it was quite good. The honey gave the corned beef an even more honey-glazed ham taste. Though, since my beef had more surface area than most hams, the honey flavor was far more pronounced. Definitely one of the better corned beef's I had. I think I might chop some of it up for a hash this weekend. The Cabbage was cabbage. My folks always hated cabbage, so I never ate it as a kid and was never ruined to it. The leeks and onions give it some dimension, but it would still get passed by at most potlucks. All-in-all, not a bad way to re-connect with my Irish roots.

[@flare9757]

Very nice blade that. Pattern welded steel. Not true Damascus, but a close enough mimicry, and arguably a more beautiful forging method.

[@HajiDumas]

Pikachu winking at me while a large slab of beef dominates the frame is an aesthetic I never knew I could enjoy.

[@jamietate3526]

"It'll give you the Luck of the Irish" which historically has been absolutely terrible

[@irisjanemay1903]

I made the corned beef recipe yesterday. My son loved it. He said it melted in his mouth. The honey was great in it. Thanks for a great recipe.

[@goldenfire5]

I made this today for St Patrick’s Day, and it was *delicious*. I slathered it with regular yellow mustard first and then the honey and salt, and I also added the pickling spice packet. Last year, I swore up and down I’d never make corned beef again, but this changed my mind! Boiling off the salt twice in the beginning also helped.

[@alwaysalienated1]

This is the closest to my families recipe I’ve ever seen. My family recipe has us wash the meat then add spices and cover and roast in the oven three hours and then black strap molasses for the last hour uncovered, never seemed too salty but maybe that’s down to the molasses.

[@thomaspolk7416]

You're getting really, really good with your deadpan humor during the historical descriptions. Another awesome video!

[@kellywalker7127]

Max, I just wanted to say that the part of your video where you taste the food is my favorite! I enjoy cooking videos, but most chefs are so predictable in their reaction to their food. I know they have made it a bunch before, but it is always a surprise for you and thus, for me. Love your reactions. 🥳 Thanks

[@badusername1128]

In Jamaica we also make corned beef and cabbage (we call it bully beef). Instead of using the slab corned beef we use the one in the tin! Excited to see how THIS recipe is made and get the likely origins of the version I'm familiar with!

[@PokeSalad]

Woah, Max has joined the Cleaver Club, unless I've just been missing that detail. That cleaver looks great, if its a custom I'd really appreciate to know who made it!

[@TastingHistory]

more info here! instagram.com/metalworkbymeola/

[@kathrynmast916]

Yay, my Max fix for this week! I’m a happy little old lady!

[@TastingHistory]

Glad to oblige

[@kevinroche3334]

When i was young, my mother would cook cabbage in the same way for my father, who was from Wexford.

[@alijackson2477]

Not sure I can say it here, but I've cooked this several ways and can't beat the slow cooker. Perfect every time. I lay the meat on a bed of quartered cabbage, carrots and sweet onions. One-pot shop which is perfect when families are gathering. Thanks, as always for your research. Love the presentation.

[@KT-pv3kl]

I never imagined culinary history would some day be one of my favorite historical topic but thanks to you I have a newfound passion!

[@sterlingodeaghaidh5086]

Alton Brown actually pointed out in a episode of Good Eats that Corned Beef and really beef in general was rather unattainable for most people in Ireland. Especially during the time of the British colonization. Corned Beef and Cabbage really is “As American as apple pie” as the expression goes. A better alternative to beef is what is known as a Bacon Log, basically round bacon similar to the cut used in Canadian Bacon.

[@julian5496]

If you want to make modern day bacon and cabbage, I'd recommend boiling the cabbage in the same water you boil your meat, that way you reduce on pots you have to clean and also you don't have to use broth as some of the flavour from the meat transfers!

[@mysticphoenixreads]

About halfway through but as a Celtic Witch and Pagan, I love the fact you pronounced Samhain properly. We love to see it. Many Blessings. 💞

[@filibertogarced]

There is nothing like starting your day with a Tasting History episode. Thanks Max!!

[@risingwolf786]

Both me and my grandmother enjoyed we watched almost as soon as it was uploaded like about less than 10 minutes later we enjoy our boiled corned beef cabbage potatoes and carrots sometimes celery if we have it yum yum every 17th of March!

[@kmdn1]

I love the medieval history lessons- it always seems like they were trying to figure shit out to bring us where we are today but sometimes their judgement just goes a liiiiittle off the rails and through the centuries they'd have to make a U-turn from the bizarre places they'd end up. I'm sure people in the future will be laughing at our weirdass customs which seem completely normal and even progressive to us

[@patrickmurphy6214]

Irish lad here, would love to see more traditional recipes of my country. Food looks delightful, might try it myself next Paddy's day!

[@dianahowell3423]

This has to be my favorite episode so far! Thank you for sharing how each class could expect to be fed. Gotta try the corned beef recipe, too!

[@TastingHistory]

Thank you 🙏

[@rhiahlMT]

Fostering was common in medieval times. In the noble class, girls and boys were fostered. They reason was a parent would worry too much and dote on the child. With someone else, they would train the child, a girl in running a home and with males, fighting. It was also a way to form bonds. The children grew up (especially males) with a connection to the "foster father".

[@ragnkja]

Another benefit was that it made it less likely that all the children would succumb if there was a disease outbreak.

[@rhiahlMT]

@@ragnkja Yes, which would become a problem in the plague times. Those times were the beginning of the modern era though. One hundred and fifty years after the first outbreak, the practice of fostering was dying out.

[@kalebb1226]

So like Game of Thrones.

[@rhiahlMT]

@@kalebb1226 No, the Game of Thrones comes from a historical practice.

[@chrisball3778]

Similar arrangements are still common in some cultures. Going to live with relatives for a few years has been a fairly common experience for children for hundreds of years.

[@MrByaeger]

Glad you mentioned for most folks it was bacon instead of beef. Mainly because everybody should try it that way too. It's AWESOME.

[@Quadrenaro]

I bought 20lbs of corned beef on sale at a fairly hefty discount at about $2.00/lb. I still have s 5lb slabs left in my freezer and will definitely try it like this.

[@CuidightheachODuinn]

Better be gone by now lol

[@Quadrenaro]

@@CuidightheachODuinn Of course.

[@acecat2798]

Anyone interested in learning about how the medieval period in Ireland differs from its representation in media as discussed by people with, like, actual degrees in this period, I recommend Ludohistory's (aka Yellow from OSP) streams Historians React to the AC Valhalla expansion pack Wrath of the Druids (which is a huge mess, oof). They're long but very engaging and fun and informative. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fICngn55i9qtesU Highlights include... - Discussions about a legal and illegal killing and theft, (the difference being that legal ones are announced) - Descriptions of love spells where you (somehow) knead bread with the butt - Primary source descriptions of saints and angels beating people up - The search for any cows at all in this game set in medieval Ireland - Yelling about how this dynastic family (the Uí Néill) made scholarship a nightmare. - A name of a mystical tree the game made up that literally translates to "Salmon Salmon" - The True Judgement of Niall Frossach, a real document wherein a king realizes how a lesbian lady got pregnant, and upon explaining it, a priest *drops from the sky* and says that what the king just said was so true that it banished demons who had been tormenting him by carrying him through the air.

[@chellarose4272]

The honeyed corned beef makes SO much sense. My grandma used to make corned beef glazed with maple syrup and apricot jam for St. Paddy's Day. It's delicious!

[@itsallfunandgames723]

I'm really loving the idea of traveling back in time and finding Irish towns where one of the villagers is just a wolf. And they act like he's doing it on purpose just to piss them off.

[@unitunitglue5143]

The thickened sour’d milk might have been “clabber”. A sweet counter stable (no refrigeration needed) milk product that’s similar to yogurt in texture and is used to make cheese or just eat it with some honey and berries. Homesteading family here on YT makes dream cheese out of it.

[@richardbeebe8398]

Great episode once again ... and your playful send-up of Robert Shaw's Quint was a delightful side dish to the main meal (and a shout-out to Jose for all his work completing the captions for a slightly longer-than-usual post)! Beimedh a gole!

[@TastingHistory]

Thank you! And yes, when he saw the video length, I definitely got some side eye.

[@KetchupwithMaxandJose]

Bahaha thank yoi

[@richardbeebe8398]

I confess that on Sunday I spotted Jose's brief Instagram post about working on the captions for this episode (by any chance did his marriage vows include "to love, honor ... and write KZbin captions"? In any case, you make a great team).

[@wetterstein3711]

Honey is a very typical part of a marinade for slow grilled meat in all parts of Europe till to day, like in roasted piglet

[@SauraElanthier]

Your cabbage recipe makes me think of a Colcannon soup that I make, but it also has potatoes and bacon in it. So Good!

[@richardfallon5507]

colcannon is not soup , it is mashed potatoes with chopped cabbage in it,

[@leslieschramm6252]

I have to say I know no-one in Ireland who's ever called it St Paddys Day, but that beef looks a great idea.

[@Aegis---]

It's not common but it's accepted. St patty, however, is not

[@IrishMedievalHistory]

Wow! The level of work put in to this was amazing. So much reading of the main sources done. Thank you so much for your very hard work.

[@bridgetbuchan1786]

My grandmother is full Irish and my grandfather is full Scottish every year I St. Patrick’s Day we would always have corn, beef and cabbage sometimes we would have carrots added to the pot as well they all made one pot with a lot of potatoes just like my grandma always like it she rest in peace and tradition to my child when the time comes at this point, it’s just away from my family to remember my grandmother and our ancestors it’s really good to

[@lilpsyche6971]

I was in the middle of making something to eat when I started watching this. Don't remember liking it, but at least my brian was on the right track. Love ya Max! Keep doing what you love!

[@mattwardproductions7399]

The magic cauldron was likely an everlasting stew, where everyone contributes something to the pot and then takes some. As long as it's boiling constantly, it's hygienic

[@uninvolvedthirdparty]

Stone soup, baby

[@mattwardproductions7399]

@@uninvolvedthirdparty kind of, yeah. Or axe soup, button soup, nail soup, or wood soup. Depends who you ask. Except this was an actual common practice in inns and the like.

[@tarmaque]

Reminds me of "Jetty Juice" which was a staple at parties when I was a lad. (Sometimes called "Jungle Juice.") Basically everyone brought a bottle of random booze, and a can of equally random fruit juice concentrate. It all went in a big water cooler by a stack of red Solo Cups. Then everyone could get happily wasted on the result. The only problem was, some of the guys were a bit older and had a sense of humor. Hence they'd bring a bottle of _Thunderbird_ and a can of pineapple juice. Or some other equally vile combination. Southern Comfort or Everclear was also popular, and grapefruit juice. Or Tequila and Hawiian Punch. I never touched the stuff.

[@inf0phreak]

Hey! It's one of the Eeveelution Brothers. What a pleasure to see Leafeon here on the show today! ;-)

[@kiksforge]

Big props for says Samhain properly!

[@dazzlingsky8863]

13:04 That horse really giving him the 🤨

[@DianeGraft]

I've discovered that I like corned pork even better than I like corned beef. But the only way that I've been able to get it is to cure it myself. And it takes about ten days to do that, pickling in brine in the back of my fridge. But so worth it once it's done.

[@rubenirrelevante1817]

Hey just randomly saw this comment in my third watch of this video and i was wondering if you could tell me how corned pork is done? The idea got me excited but it's not traditional where I live and ...online recipes usually are not the real deal

[@deathbatgirlxxx]

I studied the medieval Irish cattle economy for my Master's dissertation, but I didn't learn about corned beef! I might make this tomorrow!

[@richardfallon5507]

corned beef was made in Ireland exclusivly for export to England , the native Irish could def not afford to buy it,

[@lylelookingbill6606]

I'm a huge history buff, I also enjoy cooking for family and friends. You have the best touch of adding historical notes to the recipes, I guess what I'm trying to say is I have become a fan.

[@hapennyproductions3800]

You should try making Coddle maybe next st patrick's day, it's a traditional stew from Dublin that contains sausage, was a meal that fed the poor working class that lived in the crammed tenements of Dublin.