Medieval Misconceptions: THE BLACK DEATH, one of the worst pandemics of history

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A detailed presentation and dispelling some of the misconceptions around one of the worst pandemics of history, the medieval Bubonic Plague or the Black Death.
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[@hnywening6080]

“We are their children.” That is such a profound and beautiful thought. It’s not exactly the first time I’ve had a similar thought, but in this context it kinda floored me.

[@tommeakin1732]

Don't you think it's kind of extraordinary that this isn't self-evident to us? We (modern people) don't "feel" like these people are our ancestors, even when it's clear that within that mass of people, your direct ancestor stands. I think it's a combination of; rapid technological development - so your world is completely different to that of your ancestors so there's not a felt sense of continuity, and a familiarity with migration - so that the people in your current society do not have the same body of ancestors, and/or you have become separated from your ancestral homeland

[@Sophia-vk5bq]

@@tommeakin1732 Who doesn't view the people who came before them and birthed their parents as their ancestors? Thats some kind of Autism not to make such an abecedarian connection.

[@tommeakin1732]

@@Sophia-vk5bq Intellectually people know there's a direct lineage, but most of us still look at, lets say, the medieval world as though it might as well be a totally different culture, instead of our modern culture being directly birthed from that previous culture. There are *a lot* of very obvious things that we fail to properly comprehend. People often have the experience of hearing something they already intellectually knew phrased in a different way that allows them to feel what they already intellectually knew (often a "profound" experience). I think what I'm referring to can be summarised by the term "gnosis", in the original ancient Greek sense. Sorry for the essay lol, this is just something I've wondered about for a little while

[@Sophia-vk5bq]

@@tommeakin1732 So, its subconscious maybe? Someone would realize this if they actively thought about the connection but most people see it as a story book setting rather than people living the same world we now live in.

[@Madison-iw8ix]

Technically, we're all one big unhappy family. Even if you don't believe in Adam and Eve, there is a point in human history where everyone who was alive (taking out those who died without kids or who's bloodlines died out soon after) is on the family tree of everyone currently alive. Especially with all the migrations and trading and, unfortunately, wars if hyst the last 200 years.

[@youmaybebusy]

9:34 "That is worse than the Thanos snap" When a pop-culture reference puts things into perspective...

[@zac4434]

Haha epib consoomer moment

[@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447]

Having taken 50% of the population, the Snap was a perfect comparison.

[@youmaybebusy]

@@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447 Mr. Rat, I don't feel so good...

[@corneliusmcmuffin3256]

Mean while in the kingdom of Poland: what’s a “Black Death”?

[@Blox117]

"think about half of the people in your immediate circle, dying.." well i dont know anyone so zero divided by two = 0 people dying.

[@hansmorktopphol901]

In Norway one of the most common surnames is Ødegård, which means “deserted farm” or “desolate farm” and it comes from the people who moved into farms where everyone had died during the Black Plague. The commonality of that surname just shows how devastating the plague actually was

[@xdragon2k]

Now imagine that these people will not have these many offspring if the black plague didn't exist.

[@And-ur6ol]

We have the same expression in Denmark, but i never knew what it meant. Also, didn't Norway get hit hardest of the scandinavian countries? I recall having heard, that one of the reasons why Denmark ended up taking over Norway, was because all of the aristocracy with a claim to the throne ended dying to the black death (save the king that married Margrethe the first), so there were no opposition from Norway. That and then the generel population in Norway took a hard hit, meaning that there weren't a lot of potential soldiers if an rebellion against danish rule had occoured. So the black death essentially put Norway out of the "competition" and left Denmark and Sweden to "fight it out".

[@Ake-TL]

Anders Doktor you were one country at the moment, right?

[@And-ur6ol]

@@Ake-TL not sure what you are saying/asking. But Denmark and Norway are two seperate countries in present day. Little over 200 years ago, Norway was not a country but a region within the country of Denmark. Denmark were at one point in history almost the only country in Scandinavia. Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Greenland, the faroe islands, the shetland islands and Schlewig-Holstein were all regions under the Danish crown. Today only greenland and the faroe islands are under the danish crown, but not under danish goverment. So the danish state is itself, but the danish kingdom is 3 different states. But both faroe islands and Greenland can't have militaries and have no foreign minister, as they fall under the daniah state, but everything else is more or less controlled locally.

[@And-ur6ol]

In fairness to Norway, it has to be said that Denmark never conquered Norway. In fact I am not sure we ever even fought past the viking age. And both Greenland, the faroe islands and Iceland (and shetland?) Came under the danish crown with Norway. They were Norwegian regions prior to danish.

[@necroturky]

I, Agnolo di Tura ... buried my five children with my own hands. ... And so many died that all believed it was the end of the world. - Agnolo di Tura This was heavy. Well done Shad.

[@parrot849]

I can’t think of anything more horrendous than having one’s child precede yourself in death. My prayers go with you....

[@dcarbs2979]

This is why I love history. They were real people making real decisions, living real lives just like we do. Dread to think what'd have to do in centuries past. Far more real than just a list of dates and events.

[@Ontarianmm]

"Those who fail to study history, are doomed to repeat it."

[@Grey_Shard]

i've been hearing a lot of "unprecedented" "never before seen" "worst pandemic ever" and such from some of the talking heads on the news. Not sure if this is just over-hyping or just ignorance. i work in a hospital and we're releasing patients, multiple daily, who are successfully treated for covid.

[@drizzt102]

@@Grey_Shard worst in last 100 years. Historians the media aint. 1917-1920 is without question far worse. So 100 years at best. But media is a short term memory.

[@drizzt102]

@@Grey_Shard historians they aint

[@dixie_rekd9601]

It's a shame a lot of people teaching history in primary education make it such a dull subject it makes kids lose interest in what is effectively more action packed and interesting than any movie

[@ObviouslyASMR]

Dang at first when you mentioned getting emotional I brushed it off but when you started talking about parents choosing to die with their children etc.. not gonna lie I teared up too

[@that_one_fat_dude3685]

Whata pussy

[@5PctJuice]

@@that_one_fat_dude3685 bruh...

[@solananceae]

am i the only one so emotionally dead i didn't feel much?

[@nicpay3851]

I teared up, too. When you have babies, as a mother, do you leave them? Do you stay to care for them because you likely infected them? If they are infected, do you stay? When you don't have children yourself, it's easier to be hard hearted. When you are watching this and look across to your three- year-old playing happily with a toy, it is far different.

[@silvesterbosman2677]

I'm pretty sure all viewers who have kids of their own teared up with you. Likewise, but I bit them away. Everyone who didn't feel it, probably don't have kids. I found getting much more emotional after becoming a father. ESPECIALLY when it's about the kids and parenting.

[@Flight_of_Icarus]

I remember listening in lecture during my Medieval history course in Uni, and while my professor was lecturing about the Black Death, church bells started ringing during class, and carried through the entire segment. Quite the creepy and profound effect, I would think.

[@TailcoatGames]

Bruh that’s eerie as fak

[@asaffin1]

"We are their children" That got me

[@asaffin1]

@Midgard I'm not sure how that's a reply to me in any way

[@asaffin1]

@Midgard Considering my comment was merely an expression of my personal emotion in response to Shad's statement, and therefore not really up for debate or criticism, I would certainly say so.

[@ruinsage2677]

"We are their children" Damn, that hit harder than I thought it would

[@chefnerd]

Indeed it did. I had to pause for a minute to process that.

[@eyesofstatic9641]

Yeah that was an eye opener

[@DipanGhosh]

Shad: That brings me to one of my favorite luxuries of the modern world... Me: Food, Shelter, safety, maybe? Shad: Audible Me: Damn, that was smooth...

[@p.s.shnabel3409]

The ease with which we can access our favorite form of entertainment is astounding. I love books and gaming...as ling as I have internet and some devices, I'll always have mire supply than I can consume. A lot of it for free!

[@TechnoMinarchistBall]

@@p.s.shnabel3409 We can carry libraries larger than the library of Alexandria in our pockets.

[@p.s.shnabel3409]

@@TechnoMinarchistBall I would still commit a misdemeanor or two to lay my hand on that one. Who am I kidding? I'd go to pretty extreme lengths...

[@SkippertheBart]

Food, shelter, and safety are necessities, not luxuries.

[@p.s.shnabel3409]

@@SkippertheBart Food is a necessity, shelter depends on climate. Safety is a luxury.

[@KarnodAldhorn]

About getting emotional: I like KZbinrs getting emotional. It's authentic and it's liberating on an empathetic level. There is an upside down truth that the people who can show vulnerability and weakness are the most secure and strong. Until next time, fare ye well, Shad.

[@businessproyects2615]

Tragedy deserves the respect given by grief.

[@kronoscamron7412]

then he walks emotionally and slowly into the frame...... Greetings I am shad

[@blackboardplans]

Local legend near me talks about a village in which all but a single 7 year old girl were wiped out by the black death. The girl took refuge in the local chapel where she eventually died alone. I understand that the story itself isn't true but the idea that similar things were happening for real all over Europe is heartbreaking.

[@Goldenhawk583]

It could be true, legends dont come out of nowhere, and children were far better at surviving then than now.

[@dycehawk2022]

@@Goldenhawk583 In records: my country went three times through the gate when he lost more then two third of population ones through the war and two times through the combination black-death/war/famine.

[@sawspitfire422]

Fun fact for y'all: I've lived most of my life in rural England, a lot of the fields still bear the marks of medieval farming techniques. Near to the village I grew up in there is a church seemingly in the middle of nowhere, no houses or anything, it's the last remaining structure from a hamlet that was completely destroyed by the Black Death. It used to be a thriving feudal village, with manor house and farmland, but it was abandoned in the 14th century as were some other small villages in the area. Pretty wild to see the impact it had on society in first person

[@WiseOldBill]

where is this church/village? Might be interesting to try and read some more about it

[@d.dementedengineerc99isurf26]

Some European towns were so completely destroyed they were forgotten for some 600 years until aerial photography and radar searching for Nazi bunkers revealed them!

[@emperorfaiz]

Interesting. It makes me curious about how many scars of the past that are hundreds of years hidden somewhere fully consumed by nature.

[@FamusJamus]

Off the coast of Cromer in Norfolk are the remains of a medieval village called Shipden, lost to coastal erosion during the 13th-14th centuries. The poor sods had to watch part of their graveyard disintegrate around 1336, just before the Black Death would've hit. A large rock, believed to be part of the church, was occasionally visible at the surface of the sea... until the Victorians crashed a pleasure steamer on top of it. They blew them both up with dynamite.

[@JMartin2006]

@@FamusJamus I believe you will like these articles below: 💡 How Norfolk’s lost ‘Atlantis’ was rediscovered (North Norfolk News 2019/JL/30) www.northnorfolknews.co.uk/news/exploring-norfolks-forgotten-medieval-town-of-shipden-near-cromer-1-6188450 Did you know about these deserted villages in Norfolk? (North Norfolk News 2020/NO/14) www.northnorfolknews.co.uk/news/seven-deserted-villages-in-norfolk-1-6929502

[@Stardweller1]

Right before watching this, I ordered food from Chile's, using my computer, while in my home. The food arrived right in the middle of this video. I now have a meal that I special-ordered sitting right here in front of me. I also have a strong immune system, access to medicine, and don't have to go out and gather grain or firewood every day to survive. There's an electric lamp in front of me providing light. True, I am living in the middle of a pandemic, but it hasn't reached the point where we can even compare it to the one discussed in this video. Shad knew what he was talking about when he said that we're blessed to be living in this day and age. Every single word he said about that was absolutely correct.

[@luxborealis]

It’s possible to order from Chili’s?

[@Stardweller1]

@@luxborealis A lot of restaurants are doing a takeout and/or delivery service these days, courtesy of the virus and quarantine protocols. At least here in Idaho; I can't speak for everywhere.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

Not sure I'd call anything you get from Chili's "food" - I guess in an emergency....

[@shigglezz684]

Woooooo its awesome living in a first world country! Sucks for those who weren’t lucky enough to be born into a position of privilege.

[@1rickslater]

Dude I’m sorry you don’t have a amazon alexia!! You shouldn’t have to use your computer and manually type in the address. 😫 Wait until my kids grow up so I can tell them how their mother “had to load a dishwasher by hand!” This is what progress feels like and we shouldn’t have it any other way. If it wasn’t this way we would be going backwards.

[@llluisguilherme7464]

When I was watching this video 7 days ago, my beloved sister passed away... Shad is talking about death in this video, and now I understand so much what death can do with us, the living... And I'm not the same guy from 7 days ago, I'm devasted.

[@laurameisenhelter9186]

I am so sorry for your loss.

[@elsakristina2689]

I’m sorry for your loss 💔

[@Berserker3624]

I know you dont care about what I have to say and probably dont even remember posting this comment, but(and I truly mean this) I'm so deeply deeply sorry about what you had to go though

[@bobdole5782]

And you're not going to be the same person a year from now. I also lost my sister, but four years ago. The hole she left will never be filled, but it does get easier to accept that she is gone. Best of luck and I wish you well through this absolutely shitty time you're going through.

[@thelonerider9693]

When I was young I used to always think "everything in history has led up to this point." Your comment about us being the children, essentially, of those from the past made me remember this feeling of connectedness to history. Thank you. Also thank you for giving me something to worry about besides the current situation, the plaque sounds nasty as heck. A little perspective is always helpful especially these days!

[@undertheveil1576]

Shad: Sorry if I might get emotional. *proceeds to make me cry within 2 minutes by talking about the people of the past being people just like us*

[@billstephens396]

They were... And it is horrible the choices some of them HAD to make... - pours one out for all of them -

[@racoonnylord4343]

i managed to hold it together.. barely though

[@theandromedaeffect979]

RacoonnyLord Same- but I cracked like 5 minutes after finishing it

[@aseshasakshi1752]

Emotions are funny

[@jamessowin2505]

Same here. Cried for the first time in probably a year.

[@oldbloodben1310]

At this point I just assume that Shad is an actual medieval peasant who was shot into the future

[@Kumimono]

But, he has a castle! Ain't no peasant gonna afford a castle...

[@Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye]

@@Kumimono All right. He is a duke.

[@eyesofstatic9641]

A peasant in the past and a king in the future!

[@impendingdoom7920]

Must be getting some major ptsd from Corona

[@Talvekuningas]

@@Kumimono he can afford it in this period! we have more money available now !

[@Seven_1865]

When you said “we are their children” it really hit home to me how grateful we should be to those who suffered so much in the past, building the better world we now enjoy.

[@thesenate5913]

Just imagine the ones who survived with their entire family dead, alone left to live another day

[@cole8834]

Maybe they wouldn't take life for granted. Honestly they way most people act, it's like they think they'll live forever.

[@AaronPaulIbarrola]

When I was in bootcamp, a typhoon hit the Philippines. My family who lived there was safe as they were not in the danger zone. However, there was one guy who they called into the office and the Chaplin told him his entire family was wiped out. They gave him a little time to process this and asked him if he would like to go back to the PH. He told them no. He said he'll just stay in the Navy in the US because there's nothing for him back there anymore. I can't even imagine.

[@thesenate5913]

@@AaronPaulIbarrola was it during Yolanda? I am from the Philippines.

[@AaronPaulIbarrola]

@@thesenate5913 The one in like fall of 2013. That's around the time I went to boot camp.

[@coenraadsnyman5229]

I sometimes just want to climb through the screen and give you hug.

[@chengkuoklee5734]

Like Japanese horror movie?

[@thijmstickman8349]

Wait, thats iligal

[@sebastianthomsen2225]

Me too 🤗

[@p.s.shnabel3409]

I'm not a hugger, I express love with food...here, everybody have a virtual comfort food of choice!

[@lillithyukiutacrow2532]

@@p.s.shnabel3409 yaaaay tacos 🥺

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Learning from the past is one of the most valuable methods humanity can utilize to further improve ourselves.

[@seletron8291]

Target detected

[@erika002]

OH NOW YOU'RE HERE TOO, BEFORE YOU'RE NOT

[@possummagic3571]

Truly profound!!!!!!!

[@Brandon-sy2du]

NO NOT YOU AGAIN

[@mildlyperturbed2523]

I CAN'T ESCAPE THIS MAN!

[@762spookiboi]

When you talk about the struggles our ancestors had to go through just to survive everyday life, even without a plague; those very skills have now become something that people can choose to do if they so desire. We have access to clean water, safe and plentiful food, life saving medicines, clothing so cheap that thrift stores shelves overflow with them. That's how well off we are.. Even with people being divided over many things, I often like to think how our ancestors would look at us and smile knowing that it was all worth it.

[@rider2273]

I live in a 3rd world country and we are having a hard time from a lot of factors. I couldn't imagine how difficult it would be to live in Medieval times during a plague and not have modern medicine. The part about family hit me really hard. My uncle is a doctor and he's out there everyday doing his best to help people. I'm so grateful that I could be born into a family that could afford all our needs. I came in this video knowing nothing and left it with so much gratitude

[@jorgeharoo]

Fun fact about the bad smell theory, the plague in Spanish is called "peste" which means very bad smell, and in old Spanish they referred to most diseases as "pestes"

[@phileas007]

or "pestilence" in English :)

[@jorgeharoo]

@@phileas007 never heard pestilence as a word for bad smell, is it used that way too? I've not been in many situations where someone complained about something stinking in English hahahahah

[@deergod8292]

Pesto

[@brandonpowell8631]

Could this have been tied to the idea of "bad air" or "miasma" as it was called?

[@iamcleaver6854]

Yersinia pestis is the latin scientific name of the bacterium that causes bubonic plague

[@SuperKnight263]

This is why I love this channel. Shad is not afraid to show his emotions to his audience, he is mature when responding to comments (including bashers and haters), while being very informative and/or entertaining. As always thank you for the video. Stay safe people

[@haillobster7154]

@murb ash Lovable mad lad! 🤩

[@kevinswanson6518]

The initial infection would have been caused by the Yersinia Pestis bacteria that is found within rodents and more commonly the rat flea. At the point that a human is bitten the bacteria will infiltrate and infect said human, from there on the infection can take three separate courses: The separate courses or infections are known as Bubonic Plague, Septicemic Plague, and Pneumonic Plague. They are all composed of the same bacteria that is infecting separate portions of the body. For the Bubonic plague, it is an infection of the lymph nodes which result in the inflammatory swelling of said lymph node called a Bubo (hence the name Bubonic Plague) located typically in the groin and less often in the axilla or neck. Incubation period will usually last 2 to 8 days, ending abruptly with onset of fever, chills, headache, nausea, malaise (uneasiness), weakness, and extreme tenderness of the bubo. The Septicemic Plague is a result of the infection of the blood (a.k.a. septicemia) and results in disseminated intravascular coagulation, circulatory stagnation, and eventually subcutaneous hemorrhage (the thickening and clotting of the blood resulting in the destruction of smaller blood vessels). This destruction of the blood vessels results in the blackening of the underlying skin, also called Purpura. The destruction of the blood vessels may often degenerate and lead to necrosis or gangrene of the tissues surrounding it, thus further increasing the blackening of the infected (it is believed that "The Black Death" gets its name from the Septicemic plague due to the blackening of the skin). The Pneumonic Plague is a result of the infection of the lungs (a.k.a pneumonia) and may lead to pulmonary edema. This stage of infection is considered to have been the most infectious of the three as a single cough would expel millions of Yersinia Pestis bacteria droplets to infect others. Of the three diseases the Bubonic Plague would have been the safest to have, boasting only a 50-75% mortality rate. Meaning that only two-to-three out of four people will die from it. Both the Pneumonic and Septicemic Plagues have approximately a 99% mortality rate, nearly every single person who got the Pneumonic or Septicemic Plague died. These numbers assume the disease remains untreated and back then this was usually the case as doctors did not know how to deal with it. The current plague has a 90-95% survivability rate if treated early on. However, death can occur in 2-4 days after symptoms appear.

[@Goldenhawk583]

What current plague? Are you referring to the fake one they rehearsed in event 201?

[@flinfake]

@@Goldenhawk583 Cases of bubonic plague crop up every once in a while. An average of seven human plague cases have been reported each year in America. Edit: He was talking about COVID I realize now. The black plague is treatable with antibiotics now and has an even higher survival rate with modern treatment so I got confused. Heat and lack of sleep must be fucking with me.

[@flinfake]

@eoe123321 The black death is endemic in Madagascar and the pneumonic strain is prevalent nowadays.

[@zackeryhardy9504]

@eoe123321 Numbers wise, In the united states about 8,000 people die every day under normal non'pandemic circumstances. Every day 10,000 people are born. By the end of this year about 960,000 people will die naturally. if we add the predicted deaths that brins us up to 1.1 million people dead. At the birth rate we will have 1.2 million more people born in the united states. With the current death rates our population will continue to increase. BTW all of the numbers recorded are from the 2017 birth and death rate averages. The 140,000 extra COVID deaths comes from the CDC predictions. Its not super scientific, but its a ball park idea of the what the COVID numbers actually are. 60% of the population based off of the last census would equate to 197 million people dying. And remeber that the virus spreads much quicker in modern times than in Medivial so we can predict that the 5 years the plague spread equates to less time in modern day times.

[@murph8411]

@@flinfake I read it as currently the plague as in yersinia pestis as well. Although I thought his death rates were on the high side for untreated and they are usually stated as a wide range e.g. 30 to 60% and the death rate for it currently might have been on the low side if the op did mean yersinia pestis. I don’t think anyone suggested it was purely due to rat fleas or that the 14th century plague came from migrating rats, did they? As far as I can recall the stories I heard growing up it was always said that rats on board trading ships infected the crew and perhaps people at the ports due to their fleas but it then carried not through rat or other small mammals but from poor hygiene and human fleas and person to person transmission for pneumonic. Rats being the initial vector only.

[@Fallenangel_85]

It's a misconception, that modern living convenience is what a human ultimately needs to be "happy". It's purpose, a sense of accomplishment and family. Things that were easier to obtain in the past. Living alone was not possible like it is today, so you always had people around you that you'd consider "family". A simple life isn't automaticlly bad...

[@cadeyrndragheim22]

Indeed. Not to mention now you're dependent on others for everything. Before, you could grow your own food, build your own house, maintain your family and your community yourself. And you had more free time. Not to mention better food since there wasn't as much pollution as there is now. Other than entertainment and medicine, I can't see how this current world is somehow better.

[@Fallenangel_85]

@@cadeyrndragheim22 I agree on most of what you said, aside from one things: - today we have too much free time Back in the day you had very little free time, because you did everything yourself and that's a good thing. You don get bored easy and the little free time you have is more precious.

[@cadeyrndragheim22]

@@Fallenangel_85 Actually from what i've read,they had more free time as well. Sure, there were times when you had to work a lot. But there were a lot more holidays and times like in the winter when you didn't have as much work. Also, now we're working 158 more hours per year i think it was compared to even 50-70 years ago. That's almost another month of work (cus u work 8 hours per day), while wages have stagnated. Not to mention that if you were a peasant or whatever, you also worked for yourself. Not only for someone else and then barely have time to do anything for your benefit. Hence why, I don't really agree with what you said.

[@64standardtrickyness]

@@cadeyrndragheim22 I don't think that's the case it's well documented that workers in factories ~70 years ago worked 10-12 hour days 6 days a week kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHnTioRup76GqKs www.history.com/this-day-in-history/ford-factory-workers-get-40-hour-week

[@ozkan576]

You're right but since you mentioned family and purpose, I'd like to mention the fact that modern medicine and at times convenience is what helps people with those. The sense of having a family is all fine and good until a (for modern standards) simple illness can take them away from u.

[@fencserx9423]

I go through phases where I forgot Shad exists... and then KZbin recommends it to me and it’s like finding a $20 after eating an ice cream Sunday

[@enraikow6109]

$100*

[@kyle18934]

@@piccalillipit9211 there are £1000 bank notes?

[@Felixr2]

@@kyle18934 You can have two notes of 500, five notes of 200 or ten notes of 100

[@kyle18934]

@@Felixr2 oh, so no £1000 bank notes are not used. £500 are still pretty big bank notes

[@Seven_1865]

@@kyle18934 do you miss the point professionally or is it just a pastime for you?

[@robfromjersey7899]

As a fan of history, people sometimes ask me what historical time would I like to live in. I always answer "What year is it?"

[@amonvandenbruaene8395]

I would say 2019 instead of 2020.

[@Krescentwolf]

@@amonvandenbruaene8395 Yeah... someone spiked the difficulty setting on 2020

[@TechnoMinarchistBall]

@@Krescentwolf The new patch is the devs being lazy and not releasing the ww3 story expansion pack they were hinting at for the last 50 years.

[@jean-naymar602]

Yeah. I agree. But I think what they're wondering is "what historical period would you like to "visit" (given that you'd be sure to come back unscarred) ?"

[@ryanmarquez9404]

I'm a huge ww2 fan and Afghan veteran. But I would have never wanted to serve in the military at the time. I was a navy corpsman but me mexican American I probably wouldn't have been able to do that job. I also probably wouldnt have been on the line either. I would have been on a cook or something......I'm more than happy to live in modern times.

[@christiantangvald1054]

I respect that you became emotional in public, on KZbin, you're one of my top KZbinrs👍 - Christian from America

[@wooshmeifurgay7452]

Amogus - nigga from wakanda

[@hasanz7585]

@@wooshmeifurgay7452 you got the whole squad laughing with that one

[@AmyBohemi]

Being a father of two amazing girls myself, the emotion you had the courage to show while speaking about this highly sensitive subject brought me to the edge of tears. You have my deepest respect.

[@kingjames2372]

I came here to learn about history and left with a life lesson

[@GreyhawkTheAngry]

If you don't get both regularly then you're doing history wrong.

[@vanguardbreaker8826]

Greyhawk The Angry _Heimdall has entered the chat_

[@stevothebrush]

You’re doing History correctly, then! 😎

[@trevorp8124]

Shad: "I wanna talk about one of my favorite luxuries of the modern day" Me: "Good sanitation?" Shad: "Audible!" Me: "Oh"

[@-Zevin-]

@murb ash I work for a State park service as a park ranger, literally only have access to outhouses most days. I have had nightmares about outhouses. Modern toilets esp Asian style ones are the best thing ever.

[@-Zevin-]

@murb ash Yeah, we truly do live in blessed times. lol

[@maxhax367]

@murb ash outhouse isn't that bad. chamber pot however. i'd rather wear diapers

[@tron-do7ii]

the aqueduct.

[@kevinsullivan3448]

Modern sanitation does more to stop the spread of disease than most modern human beings understand.

[@archiewooldridge653]

You can see why he enjoys learning about the medieval times, because he really connects to them

[@feliperisseto9113]

Shad, I would like to say that this video was very important for me. I live in Brazil, and honestly I believe that this pandemic was the last straw for our country to break for good. We have numerous problems with government corruption, maladministration and saturated public systems. There are more than one million people today who do not have access to basic sanitation in Brazil due to the problem of the favelas. I fear a lot not only for myself and my family and friends, but for all my peers who are perishing. I always think about how blessed I am to live in the current era, how many people died and suffered so that I could live a happy and relatively prosperous life with my family. Seeing life this way changes your perspective of the world in a way. I wish to God that you and your family are well throughout this situation.

[@gangrenousgandalf2102]

Same here in America. It's come to the point where I don't care about what happens to my country, my city, or my belongings. I only care about the safety of my family now. Whether from civil war or a pandemic.

[@dycehawk2022]

It just begins, all just are starting to come into light. And relatively good time between 1870 to 2020 would be just an episod.

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

Such heart-breaking choices also affected medieval people during times of dearth, like the Great Famine; old people refused food- children were sold as bond-servants, knowing their masters were *required* to feed them- & I can imagine the infanticide rates were not great - we should be in awe of our ancestors’ resilience.

[@christiandauz3742]

Crossover Series by Walt Socha Time travelers from 2016 go back to 1054 western Pennslyvania The Native Americans form an Atheist Empire

[@andrewking6178]

3:44 - Similar hopes and dreams? You got that one right :D I bet everyone of them wanted to build a castle as well!

[@Bookhardtsbooks]

The fact that you got so emotional just shows how good of a person you are! ❤️

[@MidnightSt]

"One person in house gets black death, whole household dies." Oh my god, imagine the other case - whole household gets quarantined, and after 40 days when it's un-quarantined, there's a single immune person who survived. 35 days in a house with their whole family dead...

[@ilikeyourname4807]

Stuff like that happened with the H1N1 pandemic of 1918

[@ssholum]

@@ilikeyourname4807 What is this pandemic of 1918 you refer to? It sounds like it was as bad as the Spanish flu :p

[@deergod8292]

@ssholum ... It *was* the Spanish flu.

[@jorgeharoo]

@@ssholum literally one of the most contagious and worst diseases in recent history although I think Corona surpassed it not sure. It was the Spanish flu and it did not even develop in Spain Edit: with Corona maybe surpassing it I meant in terms of how contagious it is, not in terms of how dangerous it is

[@Ric885]

the spanish flue's medical term is H1N1 type A it was a highly volatile influenza virus

[@kacpikachu5951]

Fun (or maybe not-so-fun) Fact: all three of the versions of Plague are caused by the same bacteria, Yersinia Pestis; the difference comes in where exactly the victim is infected, and each are actually spread somewhat differently. The Bubonic version is a result of an infection of the Lymphatic system. This version has the swelling and the boils. It is also the only one that can be spread via fleas, but can also be spread between different people. It is the only one that you have a chance of recovering from without medical intervention. The pneumonic version is the result of an infection of the lungs, and is caught by either breathing in airborne droplets of those already infected. It is almost always fatal without medical intervention. The septicemic plague is by far the most virulent. It’s caused by an infection of the bloodstream and is spread the same way as the others. This one is always fatal without immediate medical treatment, and can actually kill within hours of infection. Additionally, all of these different versions can be caught by those already infected by one version if the original infection happens to spread to one of the other locations. Sorry if this was already mentioned, and for this being a really long comment. I just find epidemiology fascinating and really wanted to share my knowledge.

[@SukacitaYeremia]

Kacpikachu Fuck me... As a medical major I should've known that septicemic meant relating to blood instead of relating to feces (because the first word that came to mind was "septic tank" instead of "sepsis"). On a different subject, thank you for giving context. What you said seen to fit and helps me understand more about the disease...

[@NelsonNGray]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yersinia_pestis

[@davidweihe6052]

@Dominik yehaw Nerdy, or with an interest in history. The genus name comes from a Greek form of Latin Justinian, as in The Plague Of Justinian, the first known occurrence, which killed around half of the population of the Roman and Sassanid Persian Empires, at least in the cities.

[@eternal7912]

Pneumonic Plague is actually the most lethal and infectious of the three. Its airborne (spread by droplets specifically) meaning you could catch it by walking too close to someone who had it, and it causes rapidly developing pneumonia and even bleeding into the lungs. Even today, this is nearly a 100% fatal with medical treatment. During the Black Death, people died of pneumonic plague over night.

[@juliestam]

I'm not sure I should be thanking you for such a horrifying summary but thanks anyway. Despite all the difficulties we face with Covid 19 they pale in comparison to a 60% death rate from the Bubonic Plague

[@Arrowed_Sparrow]

This was an amazing video. Thank you for shedding some light on what they want through. They might be pages in history books, but they were family and friends making unimaginable choices.

[@mattbonner12]

Really helps to shine a light on that. Often times when researching history there can become a kind of disconnect with the people in the historical events.

[@Mrcryptidsarereal]

When you said you would get emotional I didn't realize that it was pretty darn infectious 'cause I'm sheddin' a few tears myself.

[@sir8204]

Me 2, me 2 my friend

[@Fanny-Fanny]

#methree

[@drummerkingrulez672]

Stupid onion cutting ninjas

[@p.s.shnabel3409]

@@drummerkingrulez672 Yeah, and raising a mighty cloud of dustmotes, too.

[@yaldabaoth2]

Says the person with a youtube account named after a murderer of trillions.

[@caspianhorlick4529]

So I just did some googling and maths to put the 60% death rate in perspective. The current estimated population of Europe is 747,577,540 people. This means that if Medieval Europe had the population levels of current day Europe, the Black Death would have killed 448,546,524, that is over 448 MILLION people. Can you even begin to imagine that level of devastation? That scale of death? It's no wonder many people believed the apocalypse was upon them.

[@ToniHyvarinen86]

It has been estimated that the black death killed 75- 200 million in eurasia and north africa combined, that is just crazy.

[@Spinner891]

Probably would be much worse because of higher population density.

[@rheinhartsilvento2576]

Well, it was, really. The world as they knew it died around them. That's apocalyptic.

[@Helxas]

@Jeff Oliver They're not saying "what if the plague existed today" - They're saying "what if the population of Medieval Europe was the same as it is today".

[@yaroslavpanych2067]

@Jeff Oliver Speak for yourself. Our health care system if worse than ever. It is either "you cannot afford to be sick, because you will pay for treatment rest of your life" in most developed countries, or 'it is cheap and/or free but ineffective, or not existent for some diseases so you will probably die ' least developed countries.

[@Blackchain119]

Heartbreaking. What a beautiful display of emotion and respect. I can't begin to tell you how much more it registers after your video how significant the losses were, mortally. Excellent video, couldn't appreciate you more.

[@TobiahThornwood]

I actually cried while watching this. I may not have my own children but I raised by siblings, and when I was younger my most common nightmare was that there was some sort of natural disaster coming for us and I had to get them to safety and meet up with my mother who worked hours away from where we lived at the time. It became escpecially common after I exoerienced a twister during summer camp and had to take shelter in the cabin basement while the kids were still in the main building, and nearly becme a reality when my younger brother was nearly swept up by a river and I ended up with bruised ribs from the rocks I came into contact with in my rescue attempt. When you brought up choosing to stay with your children I was brought back to those nightmares where I was desperately holding on to the tiny hands of my siblings, and the desperation of trying not to let go, even though holding on made it all the more likely I too would be swept up in the storm that spelled assured death for both me and them. It brought be back to the feeling of rocksbattering me as I desperately tried to keep my brother's head above water and get us to the river side. I cried during this video because I was faced with just how similar those people and I are. That they too must have felt that desperation, and that acceptance deep down that they were putting thier life on the line. I cried because I saw myself in those people and because we are indeed those children, those children theu sacrificed everything to build a fututre for.

[@albertfitzgerald2309]

Bubonic: Cysts. Pneumonic: Lung infection. Scepticilic: fecal, dysentery. This was one of the reasons why the plague was so terrifying: It took on several forms. Some people would develop a sudden fever and die (pneumonic), some would develop dysentery and die of the browns (scepticilic) and some would form severe cysts and or lessions that would lead to massive infection and death (bubonic). It was utterly terrifying to witness so many forms of death. Many believed that it was God enacting the rapture.

[@artruisjoew5473]

Sceptic is blood infection, not bowel.

[@albertfitzgerald2309]

@@artruisjoew5473 shit my bad. I was really stoned in my west civ class and I kept thinkin of septic tanks.

[@AkademietHistorie]

I have data: * Pneumonic plague had 100% mortality rate in 2-3 days, spread through droplets, direct human-human contact. * Bubonic (the classic "black boils" plague): over 50% mortality (but much lower than 100%), death within 5-7 days, spreads through insect vector (O.J. Benedictow's theory is rat fleas, L. Walløe thinks human flea/louse). * Septicemic: 100% mortality within a few hours, also spreads through insect vector.

[@d.dementedengineerc99isurf26]

@@AkademietHistorie I have a bit more data. The question is which bodily system is infected. 1.Pneumatic plague is the pulmonary system (lungs.) 2.Bubonic plague is the lymphatic system (crucial part of the immunity system.) 3. Septicemic is the blood.

[@Zach0451]

I'm not a very religious man like you are Shad, but I gotta say I definitely feel like I'm some kind of blessed when I see things like this in perspective

[@p.s.shnabel3409]

We are, at least for now. There's no guarantee this will last. Build happiness and love while you can.

[@friedlemons5201]

Didn't know Shad is religious

[@LiveErrors]

@@friedlemons5201 He is a Mormon, he doesnt talk about very much in some videos about the "sword of Laban" personally they are hillarious to me purely because in my language a 'Laban' is an 'ill manered, shameless young man' and its a (older) common insult against unruly kids

[@Madison-iw8ix]

@Fried Lemons He's a member of the Church of Jesus christ of Latter-Day. There's a video about it somewhere. *"The More You Know" meme appears*

[@bloodysimile4893]

@murb ash This is problem with today society, foucing on tearing down everything because of one skeleton in the closest without context, reason, and understanding despite all good it brought fore. Like a good person who have done good thing for years is sudden the devil because of a bad joke told in twitter years ago.

[@tylerdies413]

Watching you tell this story and the way you make it real by finding first hand accounts, and seeing you get emotional got me. Every time you got choked up I also got choked up. This video was amazingly well researched and your story telling made it seem less like cold hard facts and more like what it truly was a tragedy. Thank you for making such an amazing video.

[@LauraDelvecchio]

Damnit Shad you had me in tears talking about some of this. you really helped put a lot of this in perspective and I'm sooo so so glad you created this video. I sincerely appreciate all the effort you've put forward here, and long live you and your family. We are truly lucky, indeed.

[@evanescentraven5733]

Oh goodness, this made me teary. What really got me though, was the quote at the end and then looking at my 4 mos old son and seeing him give me the biggest grin. In that moment I saw the horror of what a mother like me faced upon discovering the marks on her precious child and knowing there was nothing she could do to save that child. I would be devastated. And I instantly knew that I would hold my baby till long after he took his last breath, only letting him go when I finally took mine.

[@TheodoreMinick]

And there were accounts of exactly that happening.

[@AVGyerra22]

Fuck you for making me cry, but also you're a great mom, keep at it.

[@zeppelinled3967]

reading this comment while looking at my little brother sleeping peacefully made me burst into tears ...

[@magdalenamaciejczak1292]

Shad, I love how part of your message is basically: Look at the timeline. Here's The Black Death and the people who are your ancestors. Basically your grand-grand-grand-grandparents. Look at them, think about them. Try to feel how they felt. ...And here's you and your family. Basically your entire world. Look at them, think about them... Compare the pictures. ...You better goddamn cherish your family and the times you live in. You better appreciate it, you better make the most of it. Not only because you're, generally speaking, "the lucky chosen one surrounded by amazing people and the free spirit with countless possibilities for growth". No, not only that. You should appreciate it, because... Because you have so many grandparents that couldn't.

[@Necroscat]

And our grand-grand-grand-grandparents should've better goddamn cherish your family and the times you live in because their grand-grand-grand-grandparents had it a lot worse. And our grand-grand-grand-grand kids should better goddamn cherish your family and the times they live in because their grand-grand-grand-grandparents (us) had it a lot worse. If you look back a few generations & compare life we have it pretty good, if you compare it a few generations in the future it looks like we have it pretty damn bad. Point is, you can't judge the quality of life based on times past.

[@FreedomAndPeaceOnly]

We don't need to think about the past. The current days feel repulsive and bad enough already. With rampant leftism on the loose and strangers from all over the world demanding entry in my homeland, even though they have nothing to do with me or my people, but when I refuse these nobodys that I owe nothing, I am suddenly a "r°cist" and whatever. Man I wish we would have just to deal with germ based plagues. The political correct plagues of idiocy in the west are way worse.

[@jimmymcrip9071]

@@FreedomAndPeaceOnly That is the most ignorant thing I've seen someone say in a long time. I would cordially invite you to go live during the times of the Black Plague (if such a thing was possible), if the concept of accepting people who are different than you sounds more appalling than encountering a disease with a 60% mortality rate. There's a difference between a political view, and a horrible opinion, you of which have the latter.

[@magdalenamaciejczak1292]

@@Necroscat You are quite right, the perspective shifts depending on your point of view and there is no doubt that our decendants will "pity us" the way we "pity" our ancestors. But I tried to make a bit different point - I think we should value the past because people who lived then enabled us to reach the point we are (a rather good education, a rather good healthcare, a rather good *insert a rather good thing here*, etc) by laying a foundation with their hard work. They went through a lot of sorrow so their children would't have to. And such a thing deserves appreciation. Not all of them, true. But some certainly did. The way we do now. I hope the good things we're doing will be appreciated by our descendants as well. Because they should be. To sum up, I tried to say: we should value good things in our lives for various reasons, one of them beeing: lots of them came at a price our "grandparents" had to pay.

[@Necroscat]

@@magdalenamaciejczak1292 And just like our ancestors did, we should also work on improving our way of life so future generations can have a better one too

[@chrisegnoto]

Shad, your videos are so well compiled and hosted. This particular video and the one about Castles, are among my favorite. I truly love your work and your compassion. Thanks man!

[@lilgrasshoppah]

I gained a LOT of respect for you, t'day. And I thought I respected you as much as humanly possible...? what a magnificent, kind, and open-hearted man you are!

[@toranp.8942]

We are their children, we inherited the societies they built, and yet we so often handle what they gave us with such carelessness

[@natehigman3987]

Humans, naturally, nearly always take what they have for granted.

[@d.dementedengineerc99isurf26]

@@natehigman3987 And forget the trials, toil, and friction that birthed it.

[@cj.thewaveman]

I feel like saying that is misleading, kind of a self hating perception... we worked to build what we have in the modern day as well, we’re still working on it in fact. And I’m sure people back in that day had things they took for granted too, if course, much less, but it definitely still occurred... i think people look into the past too romantically and with too much reverence

[@triforceofcourage100]

It’s because humanity as a whole doesn’t really seem to learn anything we just get better at killing each other

[@triforceofcourage100]

Midgard I look and see the stupidity of humanity as a whole still squabbling over stuff that doesn’t matter abortion, race, religion, sexual orientation, etc meanwhile the planet is melting and diseases are just about to break the point where we can no longer defend against them and what are we screaming about having to wear a freakin mask so no humanity has learned very little of true substance since its conception please show me where humanity has learned please I’m open to counterarguments

[@Vaennylla]

"Worse than Thanos' snap" Thanos: "Impossible..."

[@rambofan334]

Reality is often disappointing.

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

@@rambofan334 whoever was behind the making of the movie, I can't believe that quote is applied to that kill count

[@iuserprofile]

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Especially the fact that our forebears, our families ultimatley endured unfathomable difficulties throughout history, throughout evolution really, is something very valuable to realize and meditate on.

[@meiamymei]

This is wonderful, thank you so much for making it. I never would have guessed a YT video about the plague would make me weep but I love it

[@BioHunter1990]

Nothing makes you appreciate the modern world as much as learning from the past. All of the problems we face today are nothing but progress built upon the foundations laid by our forerunners. We owe the future, to our shared history.

[@B.D.E.]

And all of those modern problems are going to snowball in ways that will return us to the same hardships of the past, precisely because of our modern lifestyle.

[@gauntlettcf5669]

Not gonna lie, you've put a knot in my throat with this video. I really need to count my blessings. I can't do anything but thank God for everything he blessed me with...

[@Talvekuningas]

God and generations of hard work and sacrifice by your ancestors.

[@robertwallen1582]

I can only imagine how many people where questioning their faith and love for god as they and everyone else around them were dying in horrific ways with no hope in site. It would be hard for a lot of people to keep their faith

[@TilveranWrites]

Thanos: "Watch me kill half the people!"* Black Death: "Hold my rat." *so Thanos killed fewer and his way was a lot less painful... almost like he was a relatively nice guy.

[@exantiuse497]

Except Thanos is a guy who's pretty much a god with the power to change reality as he sees fit, and he uses that power to kill half of creation instead of using that power to fix whatever problems he thought warranted that destruction. So no, he isn't good guy in the slightest

[@TotallyRealistic]

​@@exantiuse497 To be fair, creating something from nothing is far more dangerous to the universe than simply deleting what was already there.

[@knoven-]

@@TotallyRealistic ...how exactly? Doing either would completely break the laws of physics, I don't see how any could be worse/better than the other without context

[@garethbaus5471]

Honestly the Thanos of the marvel cinematic universe wasn't really a bad guy, he just wasn't smart enough to come up with a better solution such as spreading advanced technology to better utilize resources, or doubling the available resources and distributing an infinite supply of condoms.

[@garethbaus5471]

@Game Dev Underdog a vaccine?

[@alangriffin8146]

8 months later and I’m still emotional. Outstanding video. Thank you.

[@darrenskjoelsvold]

The black death is one of the reasons why the O blood type is more prominent in Norway because an O blood type either positive or negative is more resistant to the disease than A or B or AB for some reason. Also you are such a good presenter and I teared up with you a few times. The emotion and compassion that comes through helps to communicate the magnitude of the devastation from the plague. But I think it's important to point out that the lesson from the plague back then and the pandemic we are dealing with right now is the basic fact that we are all in this together and it's only through cooperation and compassion that we can survive. God bless you sir.

[@user-bp5dh7ii7e]

What does this have to do with norway. The black death affected the whole of europe not only norway, so shouldn't O blood type be more prominent in other countries as well since it is more resistant to the disease?

[@engineerblake8502]

I don't even have children, and Shad is already making me want to weep over the prospect of having to leave them to die.

[@honkytonkinson9787]

Funny, Dr Fauci in the US stated there seems to be a similar correlation with blood type and corona virus. People with type O blood aren't getting as sick and are recovering well

[@engineerblake8502]

@@honkytonkinson9787 Not that funny, its been proven that Rh negative blood types are better at handling viruses, and that O blood types are better at handling high protein diets ( as an O type myself, i can tell you i do crave milk and meat ). It should not be surprising at all that some blood types are better at fighting it of than others, in fact it would be extremely weird if it affected everyone exactly the same.

[@Mnnvint]

@@user-bp5dh7ii7e The death rate was very high in Norway. Before the black death, there were around 64000 farms in Norway. 200 years later after multiple waves of plague (the black death was only the first) it was around 22500.

[@kamilkrupinski1793]

Shad`s voice breaking. That is what I didn`t expect. And I watch A LOT of history programs on youtube, including about Holacaust and other horrendous disasters.

[@kiteofdark]

I can only imagine he was thinking about his own family and children in that situation.

[@barto22]

I kinda teared up at this, poor Shad

[@p.s.shnabel3409]

@@kiteofdark I did...and yeah, I watered up right along. And I don't know if I feel more pity for those loving enough to die for it...or the poor souls who don't.

[@manueldejesusrojassandi3919]

I believe it's the moment when you make it personal. When you think to yourself what it would mean to you, that the true weight of situations comes to the heart.

[@ssholum]

It shows how much he thought about it, if you ask me. I tear up when I listen to Sabaton's album 'The Great War'.

[@ccmetalhead]

You’re awesome man. Thanks for your work. I will continue watching and sharing your content. Gratitude has pulled me from the depths of hell. It’s so refreshing to hear you share your gratitude with your platform.

[@RadiantNito]

I just finished reading your book, and wanted to say it was incredible

[@nokta7373]

Shad surprised for a quarantine of 40 days :D That's where the term comes from. "Quaranta" means 40 in Italian and "Quarantina" is a 40 days period.

[@olmostgudinaf8100]

I was going to comment exactly that.

[@SukacitaYeremia]

Probably stems from the same words that created quarters and quadrant

[@nokta7373]

@@SukacitaYeremia Comes from "quattro" which means "four" from the original Latin word "quat(t)uor" of the same meaning.

[@olmostgudinaf8100]

@@SukacitaYeremia "Quattro" means four. "Quarenta" means forty. Fun fact: "sextant" (an ancient navigation device) comes from six. It spans one sixth of a circle.

[@Omegaures]

Quarantina just means a set of 40 like Dozzina-dozen mens a set of 12, the term for quarantene is Quarantena, which is probably just a phonetic variation which became standardised in the language with that specific meaning.

[@svenix2650]

The Emotions just shows that Shad is really giving everything. I thought how bad can it be your words brought pictures in my Head and i started to think about it and then you got me Emotional as well. Shad just shows how much love and live he puts in his Work. Thank you!

[@haswordmaster1497]

Shad, I appreciate you very much. This video embodies the very essence of how history should be taught and expounded: making sure that historical context is understood. "We are their children" is the simple and yet profound statement that I wish more people would remember before they decide to mock and scorn their ancestors for their own cultural, medical, and technological shortcomings.

[@sparaxisblanc2473]

That's what I was thinking throughout the entire video!

[@strykerwaller3784]

“We are their children” hit so hard.. thank you Shad for putting it in that perspective, I’ll be giving your book a listen soon. You’ve ignited in me both a love of medieval combat and armaments, and a hunger to know history. To know my ancestors. I thank you for these gifts, even if you never see this comment.

[@VisiblyPinkUnicorn]

Shad: "I want to talk about one of my favourite luxuries..." Me: "Machicolations?" Shad: "Audible" Me: "Oh..."

[@lukeskywalker8543]

Machicolations are a right!

[@thegamingeye6619]

MACHICOLATIONS!!!

[@gangrenousgandalf2102]

Vaccines?

[@redgrey1453]

@@gangrenousgandalf2102 The plague was caused by a bacterium, Yersinia pestis. Vaccines are not so effective. antibiotics, perhaps more so. I can think of several things that might have worked, but none for sure. Info from www.history.com/news/pandemics-end-plague-cholera-black-death-smallpox

[@gangrenousgandalf2102]

@@redgrey1453 I meant that as something I expected him to say.

[@raycearcher5794]

Shad, handing out that wholesome perspective on history.

[@fred_oxford]

Thanks, Shad. I had been hoping for a video from you along this vein.

[@devon596]

Way to make me cry about a medieval plague. I never looked at it that way before, it was just a page in a textbook. Very profound, Shad. I will continue looking at history through this lens that I had never before considered.

[@GaldierMusic]

This is why I appreciate this guy: he searches for and speaks the truth regardless of what the majority say, backing it up with solid research. Honesty, integrity, and genuine emotions.

[@Kijinn]

I'd use the term "truth" a bit more carefully, though. A fact about history is that the truth can (most of the time) only be assumed and not "proven", regardless of the amount of research. The scientifically accepted method is to go for the *likeliest* interpretation of historical evidence. That is not the same as truth. If you notice how many people nowadays do not write the truth, either because they don't know better or because they want to deceive their readers, it allows you to get an imaginary picture of the documents from the past and how reliable they are. Sometimes there are enough varieties of historical sources giving the same account of events to provide a close enough approximation of "truth", but there's always the chance of misinformation, intentional or unintentional.

[@coolo316]

You got me when you said "we are their children" I felt that one.

[@pedroprass106]

Shad: I'm sorry if I get emotional... Me: Ha! What could possi- *Tears roll up in my eyes 5mins into the video*

[@trueakuma777]

I must admit, I got pretty emotional too, especially when you did. Thanks for this video, it really put things in perspective. Stay safe and keep up the good work.

[@aganaom1712]

there's a saying regarding the black death i heard once "in one day you can have breakfast with your family, lunch with your friends and dinner with your ancestors"

[@omariscovoador7486]

24:30 man...this part where you talk about your children... This made me cry a lot, the genuine concern of a father in this situation is one of the most beautiful and at the same time sad things that i can imagine, and i'm not a father, so i can't really feel how deep this really was for you to think about, thanks for the video shad, it was awesome. Obs: in portuguese "and i'm brazilian", quarentine is called "quarentena", wich is derived from the Word 40 "quarenta", it might have some correlation with the period of 40 days that you say in the video, don't know.

[@essieredhooded]

in french, we use "quarantaine" which literally means "around 40" because it was used to talk about a time of around 40 days :)

[@Abdul-Akeem_Akinloye]

I heard somewhere that "quaranta" is Italian for forty, and the word "quarantine" was derived from it, as that was the number of days a ship had to remain at sea before those onboard disembarked, to prevent the spread of diseases.

[@eyesofstatic9641]

@@essieredhooded neat!

[@GeneralSeptem]

Quarantine used to also be a form of penance in the early Catholic church and is related to the modern 40 day period of fasting for Lent before Easter.

[@omariscovoador7486]

@murb ash thats why he is called "chad" versity, mega chad 😅

[@troycummings2501]

Thank you for bringing this to light and putting things into perspective. A person would be dead inside or very far out of touch to not get emotional about a thing so devastating, or at least haven given it deep though. You do us all a great service by reminding us and setting straight a tragedy that could be shrouded in myth and legend and setting an example of thinking about this event in such a humble way.

[@OrdnanceTV]

Loved this. Much more entertaining just watching you sit there and talk while I go about my business on the computer than I expected! Reminds me of a more intimate History Channel. Subbed.

[@javamoul2368]

Just imagine that in Germany the 30 Years war, one of the most brutal wars in europe ever, killed less than halve as big of the percentage of the Population as the Black Death did in just a few years

[@p.s.shnabel3409]

Though you did have some areas that were completely depopulated. Fun fact, some of the atrocities made it all the way into contemporary consciousness. People still refer to a "Schwedentrunk" aka forcing a funnel into someone's mouth and making them ingest liquid refuse. So yeah, in a way, the Germans still remember.

[@p.s.shnabel3409]

@@MrMhtmht Actually, religion was but an excuse. It was about power, as always.

[@corneliusmcmuffin3256]

P.S. Shnabel well yea, if Jesus was around in the 1000s he would have denounced the Catholic Church just like he did in Israel, and he probably would have been sentenced to death as well... people changed only after 60% of the population had died, and even then the holocaust still happened.

[@p.s.shnabel3409]

@@corneliusmcmuffin3256 From what I understand, Jesus wouldn't be too excited about much of what his original idea was turned into, including some excesses on the lutheran side (e.g preoccupation with material wealth, lack of charity, lack of tolerance). To be very clear, I have no dog in this fight, I'm a devout polytheist. I am absolutely not calling any one group worse/bad/wrong. I am calling some few individuals mislead and in need of introspection. Including myself more often than should be the case. I hope I am not offending you, I apologize if that's the case. Religion is, after all, a question of what's in your heart and nobody has the right to judge that.

[@SlyBlu7]

@@corneliusmcmuffin3256 The Thirty Years War was very much about power, and was a complex unraveling of events similar to the First World War. Spain, via the Hapsburg Dynasty, controlled Europe from Italy, to the Netherlands. This left France cordoned off, with only their German neighbors free from direct Hapsburg control. Spain was fighting against the Dutch in the Low Countries, in the ongoing 80 Years War. This war had, at various times, involved both the English and the French in the fighting, as the Dutch maintained ties to the English throne. In order to more expediently move troops up the road from Italy to the Netherlands, the Hapsburgs needed to cement their control of the roads which passed through either France, or Germany. When the Holy Roman Emperor in Germany died, the Hapsburgs declared one of their own as his successor. He was an unpopular leader, cementing power over the formerly independent Electors, and leveling punitive laws against the Protestants in Germany. Simultaneously, this left France entirely surrounded by Hapsburg control. The protestants rose up and began seeking allies in their fight against the Hapsburgs. This created what we know as the 4 phases of the Thirty Years War, starting with this initial uprising as the Bohemian phase. Their first allies were the Danes. The Danish king was also the Duke of Holstein in Germany. A Catholic Germany would post a grave threat to Protestant Denmark/Norway, and it would also cut off Denmark from their lucrative German territories. The King of Denmark expected backing from the English and French, who gave him money more than troops. His attack failed. From there, you have the Swedish phase. Gustavus Adolphus saw the Danish failure, and capitalized on it. Sweden had been at war with Denmark/Norway for many years, over control of the Baltic Sea. If Sweden could bring the Protestant Germans under their sway, they could control their lucrative Baltic ports for themselves. It was win/win for Sweden, because it would neutralize a powerful Hapsburg state in their backyard, and also hamstring Danish economics around the Baltic. This effort too, enjoyed massive funding by the French. The war very much, could have fizzled out in 1635, when the Protestant Germans signed the Peace of Prague after 17 years of bloody conflict. The Germans more or less packed it in and declared that they were willing to submit to Hapsburg rule. However, the external forces like the Swedes, Danes, and French still did not want a powerful Hapsburg dynasty right on their doorstep, and so finally, the Catholic French declared war against the Hapsburgs in Spain and in Germany, and marched troops in to support the Swedes. Eventually, several smaller wars in the Iberian Peninsula (also funded as Proxy-wars by the French) and the military victories of the Franco-Swedish coalition, left the Hapsburgs too financially strained to continue fighting. After another 13 years of conflict, the Peace of Westphalia was agreed through several treaties, ceding Hapsburg control of Germany, and breaking up many other Hapsburg territories in the process. The entire war was, essentially, fought to keep the Hapsburg Dynasty from overwhelming all of continental Europe. Catholics and Protestants fought on both sides, some even changing sides. The English Civil War got involved at various points, there were French revolutions, the French had their own problems with Protestant citizens - like I said, it was a complicated war, but very much NOT about religion.

[@A._Person]

I can't believe that you'd stoop to shaming us into remembering how easy we have it. But you're absolutely right.

[@tekkiegameplau7461]

Was about to thumb down... then I clicked show more. Thumb up

[@luca_uy6529]

Tekkiegameplau You know that does nothing right? Lol

[@dr.boring7022]

Yeah, thumbs down is kinda pointless. I just tried it (to see if it actually decreases likes). Doesn't do anything. It probably won't stay for long.

[@A._Person]

@@dr.boring7022 I know, right? KZbin might as well just remove it. It's not like anything ever uses it.

[@tekkiegameplau7461]

@@dr.boring7022 my reply was more to point out that it was a bit of a funny subversion of expectation. I was one of the thumbs up which was the source of the wording. I've known for a while that thumb down is just a placebo (really dumb btw)

[@digitalartsi]

You do such beautiful work. You are giving a soul to the past through education and discussion, and I am so glad I discovered your channel

[@forestjohnson7474]

@Shadiversity This video is so well thought out and heart felt. I see a lot of people that don't understand just how good people have it. I see so many people complain, and I think to myself they don't know just how good they have it. Thank you for your humility.

[@Kameth]

Modern day luxury: Warm homes. The Palace of Versailles was notoriously cold and hard to warm in the winter, with contemporary accounts stating food could be delivered with ice on the plates. So consider a few centuries ago that an absolute ruler of a country had to deal with a cold home how much things have moved forward that central heating and climate control are an expected standard base part of accommodation for so many.

[@sokar_rostau]

Always keep in mind that history is by no means linear. The Minoan 'palaces' of Crete had hot and cold plumbing systems, as well as flushing toilets, c. 1500 BCE.

[@Real_MisterSir]

While that is true, that is mostly due to the sheer size. Often these mansions and palaces had dedicated fireplaces in multiple rooms which you would light up, to keep the room you're spending time in warm. Then the rest of the building would be left unheated, as there simply isn't enough steady supply to keep so many rooms heated through burning wood during a winter. The room that houses plates and kitchenware would usually not be heated, as it's not a common living space, but a bedroom or living room would. In that regard, in terms of percentage, it was easier for a regular farmer to heat more of their home, since their homes didn't have dozens of large rooms with tall ceilings.

[@heretyk_1337]

Bless the hearts of anyone, who stayed with their family in those cursed times... Nothing more, nothing less to say, because there is no need. Just hope, that they did find some comfort in the end, for abandoning their basic survival instinct in the name of love. I don`t care if it was stupid, or illogical. They had the choice of running away, and maybe surviving, or face the Death Herself, and almost surely join the mountains of dead. Just bless their hearts for that.

[@luxborealis]

Death _her_ self? True Slav confirmed.

[@heretyk_1337]

@@luxborealis I would have think, that language of my nick was enough :) also not "a Slav". "A Pole"- very special kind of Slav :D Also- don`t you think, that there is something poetic about calling Death a "Her"? Matka Śmierć... Maty Smert... Mother Death... "Raz matka rodziła, i zdycha się raz". "Mother bore us one time, and we will die but once". Beside the birth- that had to happen, if we are here-, that is only thing in life that is sure to happen

[@voltigeurs5069]

@@luxborealis I don't know about other languages, but death is female in french(and also other latin language like spanish and italian I think), we know her as *La Grande Faucheuse*(The Great Reaper) or just *La Mort*(The Death)

[@Aatell764]

@@voltigeurs5069 Woah can you tell me a little more? I have never heard of death being portrayed as a woman that's very poetic and awesome. It's a woman who gives you life and it's a woman that takes it away.

[@Aatell764]

@@heretyk_1337 I'd love to hear more about this Slavic female death, if you would care to share your knowledge?

[@NinjaTroll21]

I became very emotional watching this video. Thank you Shad, you’re totally right. We are extremely lucky to live in this day and age.

[@aaronbutler8914]

Thank you for this brilliant video, I thought you delivered it with such humility and honesty, it was personable, it made the history come to life, and also had this great regard for authenticity for the historical truth. A very very well done from me, I've only seen a couple of your other videos but I've subscribed and am looking forward in particular to looking at some of your CASTLE videos.

[@dannyeccles1894]

Shadow of the Conqueror is in fact such a good book that we're all hoping you're cracking on with the second instalment? Hmmmmmmm Shad?

[@vin6870]

It's more than just a good book it's an amazing book

[@esardee]

ssshh, I'm nearly finished reading it. Already can't wait for the second part of the Chronicles of Everfall. Which honestly hasn't happened since the Expanse series.

[@davidsandlin9686]

I just hope he doesn’t crack on about how guilty Dalen is every damn third paragraph. It was starting to drive me crazy. I get it he was horrible and feels horrible about it but it doesn’t need to be said every damn page, or rather five minutes since I listened to the audible version. It became repetitive and I think detracted from the story. I actually really liked the story despite that but it just seemed to cheapen the instances when dalen succumbed to his guilt because in my opinion it was so over done.

[@LJCyrus1]

Was an excellent book. I've listened to it twice now.

[@dannyeccles1894]

@@davidsandlin9686 that's not how it felt to me. It really helped get across the pain he was feeling from the guilt and how much it ate away at him. For me it helped explain why he was so cold to the people around him. But that's just how it came across to me. Everyone gets different impressions, which is the beauty of a good book.

[@shadiversity]

A great video to watch as a follow-up sharing a more specific answer as to what caused the spread of the black death (human to human contact): kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIjaqqiMnL-Un7M Here's a really great reply article if you would like farther reading on the matter, and also corrects a few mistakes in the video: bshistorian.wordpress.com/2020/05/16/rats-and-the-black-death/ My additional thoughts on this is if rats (the fleas on them) were the cause of infection and spread, quarantine would not have worked, but it did, which strongly suggests that human to human transmission played the largest role in the spread of the disease. I think it's very likely that there were asymptomatic carriers of the disease. Also I should have clarified this in the video that the time it took for people to die was from the first symptoms arising. We have no clue of the incubation period for the medieval variants of this disease, which had bubonic, pneumonic, septicemic variants, and how infectious people were during a possible asymptomatic period because we can't test the medieval strains. There are even theories that the Black Death might not have even been the plague at all, but something similar to it, but these are theories and are very hard to substantiate.

[@christianbryan6961]

Did you know that some prairie dogs in the Midwestern United States carry the bubonic plague? I know because of a college professor I know who loves all things medieval. Also, great quote at the end, really sums it up.

[@a.r.hollowayauthor7210]

I do not entirely agree with what you're saying about the rats. I do agree they where not the driving force, but rats are proven to spread the various plagues via their fleas and ticks. Quarantine usually ended with everyone quarantined dieing. Very rarely was it effective, and usually that was with people who could afford to live in places where rats where not as prevalent a problem. My point is there is some confounding pieces of data here is all. Though as you mentioned, I do think it is clear that rats didn't play nearly as central a role in the early pandemics as was originally thought. Much love shad, hope you and yours are doing well. This video gives some serious perspective, and I am deeply grateful that you took the time to make and publish it. Gives us all some much needed perspective about the sacrifices our ancestors endured to get us where we are now.

[@dorianrobinette9712]

You did a great job of describing just how nightmarish those times were, that quote at the end really drove it home, it was just heart breaking. Damn good video shad.

[@RabGiblet]

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[@m.a.327]

Especially the 40 days quarantine seems not "plague typical". Given people of that period weren't stupid they would carefully investigate the reports and timing of the spread in communities and choose quarantine measures accordingly. I read somewhere that the symptoms, speed of death, quarantine measures and speed of the black death more fits the virus types of ebola and Marburg viruses.

[@Grimbur]

It was a nice change to see you in this calmer, more serious and also, ultimately more vulnerable mood. I have a young child, as can absolutely relate to the thought processes you went through. I think most parents will. It was a great video, and I loved it, despite the grim topic.

[@thugli4328]

great timing. I'm doing a presentation about the plague for schoolwork, so this was really helpful. Thanks

[@PURPLECATDUDE7734]

In 1848, Cholera took out 10% of the city I live in. It’s absolutely staggering. But we stand on the shoulders of giants. These people in the past whose medicine we laugh at paved the way for us to have the treatments we have today. Thank you, ancestors.

[@DATA-qt3nb]

Much respect Shad, isnt that truly why we love history? to imagine and piece together the lives of past people and live in wonder about how and why they did the things they did that inevitably leads to us being how we are at the end of the day

[@robertwisowaty4295]

History truly is an amazing field of study with endless wonder to explore. By studying the past we are able to give some recognition to those that came before us.

[@thegreatandmightyseff7214]

wise words from someone who makes cabbage puns

[@DATA-qt3nb]

@@robertwisowaty4295 Very true and well worded

[@DATA-qt3nb]

@@thegreatandmightyseff7214 Why thank you, i am but a simple cabbage merchant.

[@p.s.shnabel3409]

The more we understand about our past, the better we understand who we are. And how humans have always been, as far as I can tell. Though, I feel we have become a less connected society; and that's bad because we've never been a species overly compassionate to strangers.

[@2BsWraith]

Didnt think I would tear up and cry, but I did, and im 100x more thankful for each and every blessing I now have. Thank you for this, I’m glad i clicked this video.

[@chrisruzsa2798]

One of your hardest videos to watch if not the hardest. Shad, Very well done sir, very well done.

[@rociosilverroot551]

"We are their children..." Oof... that hit me. Right here.