Medieval Misconceptions: SWEARING, CURSING and PROFANITY

An in depth looks at medieval swearing, how it was done and how it differs to the modern day.
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[@essexclass8168]

"Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries" was an insult so offensive it would split England and France for over half a millennium

[@imahuman6880]

It’s also the reason I got disowned

[@pennyw2226]

I’m a Human oof you too

[@imahuman6880]

@@pennyw2226 ikr, one day my mother just said *gibble gibble* and I was at a adoption center

[@lindaakesson8403]

3.20 did you notice the mordhau reference XD

[@targard.quantumfrack6854]

As a french man, I fart in your general direction!

[@Honne1064]

Seeing Australian man not swearing makes me feel weird.

[@nanoblast5748]

the fact that shad doesn't use c*nt as a synonym for person is extremely weird to me.

[@afinoxi]

@@nanoblast5748 I think I've watched far too much videos by Rimmy...

[@Honne1064]

@@afinoxi or Lewis Spears.

[@LedosKell]

Now I'm just thinking of 'medieval Australia'.

[@dungeonmaster7974]

He wields the power of censorship

[@daniellockwood630]

Ancient Chinese cursing: "dishonor on your family and dishonor on your cow"

[@ICaligvla]

In some cases they are the same thing

[@samyrandome425]

Cursed be the religion of your father

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

We Chinese also traditionally put a lot of emphasis on our ancestors and elders. So you can definitely use those as subjects for cursing.

[@waltertaljaard1488]

'May you live in interesting times.'

[@shadowflash705]

@@waltertaljaard1488 "May you live in 2020"...

[@yvettechevalier7089]

The worst kind of curse for Shad would be something like: “May all of your castles be forever be without machicolations!”

[@mariomusicmadness]

"May your swords be as dull as Mulan 2020"

[@JarieSuicune]

@@mariomusicmadness Better than Disney's animated version for me. Too many songs, too much Mushu.

[@alexanderwu]

Your mom used nunchucks as a weapon

[@petarmilich8684]

@@JarieSuicune you’re wrong. Objectively.

[@youtubeviewer4472]

But what about dragons?

[@sagqe]

I'm Finnish...Swearing or cursing or whatever has no effect at all. Calling someone a swede...now that's fighting words.

[@brandonhey7797]

Oh dear.

[@metalvisionsongcontest7055]

Brandon Hey No, since he's talking about northern countries, the correct term is "oh deer" 😉.

[@HandleMyBallsYouTube]

Also Finn here, using swear words in casual conversation is not only normal, it's expected. Personally I trust no man who doesn't swear or curse, that's a man who's clearly hiding a lot.

[@brandonhey7797]

@@metalvisionsongcontest7055 😂

[@HansKSG]

Funny enough, calling a Swede a Finn is all ok.

[@GlebShvetsov]

Shad: Mentions swearing. Picture frame: Shows an image of the Australian Flag Never change, Shad. Never change.

[@theblancmange1265]

Shad's editor.

[@phosphoros60]

Advance Australia swear

[@TGPDrunknHick]

I Imagine that as aussie, if I ever ended up on a talkshow or the like I'd have to think through every word and still drop bombs without thinking about it.

[@sebastiansilverfox6912]

Never change?! Wouldn't he start to smell after a couple days?

[@anttibra]

The most offensive word in English lexicon: Australian

[@zachpayne3572]

This is great as it touches on the biggest "dumb" criticism of Brandon Sanderson books. I have seen multiple bad reviews say he writes childish dialogue because he doesn't say our modern swear words, and instead uses words and phrases that make sense for his cultures. Sure, you can not like the stylistic choice, but it doesn't mean it's "childish"

[@Mnnvint]

Yeah, apparently there was a US TV series that was set in the wild west sort of, and was supposed to be realistic in most respect, but they decided against using period-authentic swearing, because things which would be found really offensive at the time (e.g. "God-darn!") would not be interpreted very seriously by modern audiences, and would sound corny in a Yosemite Sam way. If you ask me, that's chickening out. It shields people from the important fact that what people have found offensive, and what they have found sacred (meaning important, valuable, meaningful *independent* of anyone's opinions about the matter), has varied a lot.

[@giftzwerg7345]

That makes it even better

[@WK-47]

@@Mnnvint Deadwood?

[@MasterSpud]

And that’s funny as well because hearing modern swearing in GoT actually takes me out of the experience cuz it doesn’t feel right in that setting, so I would say that sort of thing is bad dialogue

[@Senior-Donjusticia]

“Storm it” in the Rosharan setting, where storms are utterly devastating and extremely deadly, not to mention in many cases considered divine, when you think about it, is very severe language in that context. You’re essentially saying, “Let that person die or that thing be destroyed.”

[@user-gn6wz9fe1c]

Alternative tittle: Shad proves he is not in fact an Australian by refusing an opportunity to swear.

[@heroicaknight4735]

😂🤣😂

[@Gazmus]

Australia has nice guy christians too...

[@TheRenegade...]

@Carl Stone There's a reason you need to prefix nice guy to it

[@caioaugusto3138]

@@TheRenegade... it's either "cunt" or "noice guy" sometimes "mate"

[@ancapftw9113]

He also won't wrestle a croc or box a kangaroo. Can you believe it?

[@zawarudo596]

"Your father was a hamster, and your mother smelt of elderberries!" Lol

[@anonymoususer6845]

You got to it before i did hahahaha

[@afinoxi]

If I ever visit a castle I'm gonna shout this with all my might from the ramparts

[@gingergreek]

There's no need for that type of language here. Shocking

[@MLEbug]

You and your silly English knnnnnnnigts!

[@Knight_Astolfo]

I looked for it and was not disappointed *taps helmet while making fart noises*

[@Kameth]

KZbin: Hmm. Shad: It's an educational vid about swearing, all modern offensive language is censored, and I don't swear anyway. KZbin: HMMMMMMMMMMM.

[@Marinealver]

KZbin: 🟡💲 🟡 Shad: 🤬

[@XraynPR]

might as well go full EFAP - Naughty words edition

[@harlannguyen4048]

"Hello, all my fellow N-Words."

[@vane909090]

Meanwhile there are big youtubers who swear 24/7 and nothing happens to them.

[@marthahawkinson-michau9611]

@@vane909090 I know of at least one who does so nearly every video, but he does at least make a passable attempt at bleeping the swearing. Just not so much as to make the words unrecognizable. He’s monetized. Go figure.

[@Spoot401]

The strongest swear I've ever heard was from a 1st grader yelling at her friend, "Shut up and eat your pie!" There was no pie.

[@sleepdeep305]

There's always something so profound about how children approach cursing.

[@mijaroprime9509]

@@FatherNagic can you not make this political?

[@robertpatter5509]

@@mijaroprime9509 You may not care about politics, but politics cares about you - Some guy. Propably Meaning: You can't escape it. No matter how hard you try. Those that desire to be left alone with ALWAYS be ruled by those who don't leave others alone. Neutrality is a lie.

[@mijaroprime9509]

@@robertpatter5509 don't give me that crap, we can escape politics in a comment section that's not about it by not bringing it up. Stop being annoying pricks.

[@LeavingGoose046]

@@robertpatter5509 Yea but this video has nothing to do with Joe Biden, neither does this comment. As someone who doesn't like the guy, not everything has to be about him, you're just being annoyingly off-topic. It'd be like if I started waffling on about zucchinis.

[@r.i.p.4485]

context is very important as well. The merchant bit his thumb at the Queen and yelled, " May your children find great fortune tending to the land." The Queen's knights brought forth their shields and encircled the doomed merchant. The merchant laid down a few gold pieces on the shabby farmer's humble table. " May your children find great fortune tending to the land." The farmer's eyes glistened and his breath wavered. He would not lose his farm this year, nor would he lose his family.

[@afinoxi]

Shad doesn't even curse in a video about cursing. This dude is a legend.

[@coyotetrickster5758]

He is Mormon, it is a rule by most.

[@afinoxi]

@@coyotetrickster5758 so is it a rule in most religions and their sects and practically nobody cares.

[@charliepirhonen9734]

Is he even Australian? Just kidding, he's a champ.

[@TheTakato122]

"Shad doesn't even curse in a video about cursing." He said "damn you" like half dozen times.

[@afinoxi]

@@TheTakato122 we don't consider that a curse word normally though. Maybe an insult ? If you're speaking without using insults though that's a bit unnatural. I can understand not wanting to curse but insults ? That's a bit too high level.

[@ToonamiT0M]

Related true story; Many years ago, when my D&D group was still pretty new and learning the game, our DM said he was going to focus on roll playing the NPCs more than he had been. During one encounter, a player did something rude to an NPC and the DM blurted out "You dick!" The table reminded him that he said he would roll play, so the DM goes "Verily, thou art a penis." We all lost it and it's been common insult ever since.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

Brilliant DM 😂

[@peterbarlow5709]

Absolute madlad

[@brianhiles8164]

Statement, utilizing a French accent: "Thou art ´appiness." Response: _"It´s kind of you to say that."_

[@stevenskorich7878]

Surely you meant "role playing". Roll the dice, play the role. Just another one of those little English quirks our spell checkers cannot catch.

[@ToonamiT0M]

@@stevenskorich7878 Huh? Wat? No. No. no. I, I meant to say "roll." See? It's a pun. Yah. That's it. That's the ticket. Because you roll die in D&D. So it's funny. Get it? It wasn't a mistake. It was on purpose. Nailed it!

[@Marinealver]

"May the demons of lust posses the daughters of the Duke of Canterbury and transform them into nymphomanic harlots." How's that for a curse?

[@loaf1893]

Definitely will offend parents

[@waltertaljaard1488]

Roman curse; Irrumatre! Damno te in nomenis omnibus dei. Spiriti mali submundis te et totam familiam tuam in finistram eaternam fereant.

[@Digitaaliklosetti]

not for their husbands

[@johndododoe1411]

@@Digitaaliklosetti The curse would cause them to frequently betray their husbands.

[@Digitaaliklosetti]

@@johndododoe1411 they're from Kent, that was always going to happen

[@adriansue8955]

Basically.... its not the word itself that's offensive, but what you're communicating that is. I think I like their style

[@tbonbrad]

THE WAY IT GOD DAMN FUCKING SHOULD BE!!!

[@ChemoshKamos]

Reminds me of how many times I've shouted at my little brother "I swear to God, I'm gonna kick your ass!" Without a second thought. Never once did I actually think I was making an oath to God to roundhouse kick my little brother.

[@paulchapman8023]

And has God held you to those oaths?

[@Zhab80]

Well so long as some day some part of your foot make contact with his ass with any amount of force... your oaths will technically be fulfilled.

[@stevencurtis7157]

Don't worry about it too much, god doesn't exist enough to do anything about it.

[@Punishthefalse]

Imagine having to answer to God about why you didn't kick your brother's ass.

[@vinzcastro9304]

@@Punishthefalse I'm crying lmao

[@ducomaritiem7160]

I attended the Hastings battle reenactment in 2006, as a Norman warrior. We had to study a list of "Norman and Saxon insults" to shout at eachother on the battlefield. One of them was " Your mother wears leather!" Referring to the low status of stinkng leatherworkers back than.

[@byzantion1683]

i can see that as still having value as an insult today, if in a different way lol. i read 2 boring books about a time travelling prophecy that starts in pre roman britan, second ends with hastings and alleges that the english repeatedly yelled UT aka OUT at the normans. thing that stuck with me the most from the books, makes me feel emotional at least lol.

[@Neo2266.]

_That’s why yer shoes raggidy_

[@bananajoe113]

I think sayin your mother wears leather is still an insult. Although it wouldn't be due to "smell".

[@nathanielcrosby2426]

Wouldn't that also have been an insult directed at Duke William, since his mother was a tanner's daughter?

[@lemeres2478]

I prefer classic shakespear: Son: Villain, what hast thou done? ; Aaron: That which thou canst not undo Son: Thou hast undone our mother; Aaron: Villain, I have done thy mother. And yes. This is what you think. It was a Maury Show situation.

[@wolf1066]

Shakespeare was one bawdy bard - sadly a lot of it's lost listening to it in RP and only some of his more *obvious* ones (like "country matters") are discernible to the modern ear while things like "hour on hour we ripe and ripe; and hour on hour we rot and rot" lose their original word-play of whore/hour and ripe/rape... Not to mention that a good percentage of other puns and many rhymes are ruined...

[@moonchild3143]

The very first yo mama joke

[@DavidSmith-vr1nb]

@@wolf1066 Not to mention rot/rut.

[@wolf1066]

@@DavidSmith-vr1nb I specifically said I wasn't mentioning all the other ruined puns... :P

[@uselesspocketwatch]

The "translation" of vulgarities is something they had to do in the Deadwood series. " Actually the constant bad language is a deliberate stylistic choice. People in the wild west didn't really speak like that, they used cusswords like nincompoop or tarnation, which would have been shocking at the time but strike us today as impossibly tame. But the creators decided to make the townsfolk contemporarily foul-mouthed to maintain that anarchic, underclassy feel in the present day." ". . . the characters were originally intended to use period slang and swear words. Such words, however, were based heavily on the era's deep religious roots and tended to be more blasphemous than scatological. Instead of being shockingly crude (in keeping with the tone of a frontier mining camp), the results sounded downright comical. As one commentator put it '… if you put words like 'goldarn' into the mouths of the characters on 'Deadwood', they'd all wind up sounding like Yosemite Sam.' Instead, it was decided that the show would use current profanity in order for the words to have the same impact on modern audiences as the blasphemous ones did back in the 1870s."

[@DraculaCronqvist]

It's a careful wager between historical accuracy and audience reception. Sometimes, you do have to deliberately go for something not so historically accurate to properly convey meaning and intention to an audience.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

And then you translate the book and have to find swears and profanities with the same impact in the target language.

[@Fletcher91]

Medieval people: > "Oh my god!" > "What happened?" > "I just saw the King being murdered!" California girls today: > "Oh my god!" > "What happened?" > "I just ate, like, an _entire_ sandwhich!"

[@LordVader1094]

@Doggoh Funny thing is, Medieval people were nicer in that regard since you wouldn't be executed for saying the Lord's name in vain lol

[@sketchstevens5859]

Medieval People: Dear Lord Grandmas: Oh my stars Spurda: XDDDDDDDD

[@holyshaman]

You forgot overusing the word literally.

[@lollllloro]

@@holyshaman Literally where? sorry.

[@kevinsullivan3448]

By Odin's Eye this comment is spot on.

[@daywither927]

So Monthy Python and the Holy Grail was historically correct. Incredible.

[@chadfalardeau5396]

One of the guys that did that is a historical enthusiast

[@thelaughingcossack6521]

When Monty bloody Python gets medieval history better than most modern media, that's when you know something is seriously wrong

[@FactoryofRedstone]

I heard a story of the Holy Grail that Arthur is always shouting run away instead of retreat because in the time of Arthur the French hadn't invaded Britain yet, so the word retreat wasn't part of the English language yet.

[@jon-paulfilkins7820]

@@chadfalardeau5396 The late but great Terry Jones, he wrote a few books and did a couple of series, His "Medieval Lives" and the one covering "The Barbarians" are both worth watching if you can.

[@brettmajeske3525]

@@chadfalardeau5396 Actually Terry was more than just an enthusiast, Medieval Literature was his focus at Oxford. He was planning on it as a career before comedy got in the way.

[@michaelcrawford3663]

I was playing kingdom come and one guy greeted me by saying Jesus Christ be praised. My mom apparently only overheard the first and told me to turn it down or put my headphones on because she didn’t want to hear that. Had to walk by some more villagers to get her to see they were just welcoming me lol.

[@the_tactician9858]

Interesting, even hardcore Christians don't often greet each other with such greetings nowadays. Goes to show how thoroughly baked in Christianity was in medieval society (or at least in 15th century Bohemia)

[@Poluact]

In short: medieval swearing made much more sense.

[@tice7217]

Medieval: describing how world will roll over someone they hate Modern: feces

[@mausklick1635]

Yes, the contemporary hostility towards "swearing" is pure affect.

[@codysing1223]

Even the automatic subtitles say Chad instead of Shad. "Greetings I'm Chad, from Chadiversity"

[@musikrausch2675]

@Random Google employee. Shame! Shame on you and your cow!

[@DiaborMagics]

Greetings, I'm Shad, Shadiversity's Chad.

[@codysing1223]

@@DiaborMagics this has potential

[@funcrackeh4688]

Shad is a Chad

[@codysing1223]

@@funcrackeh4688 That's what I'm saying!

[@kaleialeon8410]

Wakko: *placing Bible under cop’s hand* Do you swear? Cop: Yes Wakko: *swipes Bible away* Well you shouldn’t. It’s not nice.

[@zincwing4475]

Wait, does that mean you can refuse that oath for religious reasons? EDIT: I checked. Wikipedia says you can use affirmation instead of swearing. This is considered equivalent to the law.

[@clockworks5069]

HELLOOOOO NURSE!

[@Bluecho4]

@Gallow Black Well good news, it's getting/gotten a new show. Look it up.

[@irok1]

@Gallow Black they're baaaaack

[@moraien3278]

The german word for "swearing" is "fluchen" (cursing) and a "Swearword" is a "Schimpfwort" (scolding word). And "swearing an Oath" is "ein Schwur schwören".

[@loser0in0love]

Man nennt das eher "einen Eid schwören"

[@moraien3278]

@@loser0in0love Auch wahr.

[@dragmire3D]

"A pox on you, and your kind!" -Worms Armageddon (Thespian voice)

[@OriginalCreatorSama]

"A POX! A POX ON THE PHONY KING OF ENGLAND!" -Disney's Robin Hood, interestingly!

[@Sol-mr1lv]

From Shakespear "Thy mothers name is ominous to children"

[@zombielizard218]

What? You Egg! *[Stabs him]*

[@Osric24]

Demetrius: Villain, what hast thou done? Aaron: That which thou canst not undo. Chiron: Thou hast undone our mother. Aaron: Villain, I have done thy mother.

[@jsn1252]

@@oyoo3323 I seriously doubt he had much of any impact on the English language, but was just one of the first to write down much of the common vernacular. After all, less than a third of men were literate at the time.

[@jsn1252]

@Logan Waltz South park is at least usually criticizing something under its crude exterior; Shakespeare was more like reality tv.

[@rayanderson5797]

Sounds like my mother in law.

[@DZ-1987]

Bloody finally. I was waiting for something like this. Now i can make characters swear in Medieval fashion. And if anyone dares to say "these Swears make no sense" I'll reply with "Your mum makes no cents." "Well, duh, she's a houswife." Ah... curse my habit of making jokes out of insults...

[@TheRezro]

Most common cases are: 1) Use names of deities needlessly or in offensive way ("By the El-ahrairah!") 2) Actual cursing enchantment or wishing bad ("go to hell!") 3) Falsely swearing ("one day I will kill you, son!") 4) Or simply talking about stuff what are taboo in specific society ("are you an elf, or something?") In short, not as much specific words but the context, as Shad said. It is in fact quite cool way to make world of fantasy more alive, still keeping it PG.

[@Soulslayer612]

@@TheRezro "When the orc proceeded to question the purity of the man's mother was when he decided the orc must die." "Demora's hole!" "Shor's bones!" All good examples.

[@Osric24]

Funny you open with "bloody." Which is short for blood of Christ, the very kind of invective Shad was saying would be highly offensive in medieval time.

[@DZ-1987]

@@Osric24 Behold my accidental Brilliant occasions, good sir. I even surprise myself with it.

[@finnhackapell6560]

@@TheRezro Bonus points for the Watership Down reference. Didn't expect to see it in this channel

[@mikaeelmalik1724]

An Australian man that doesn't swear, I think the time space continuum is gonna fall apart

[@justarandomtechpriest1578]

Oh he swears

[@JRCSalter]

I love how swearing was handled in the Wheel of Time. There are obviously characters who swear more than others, and you get a feel of which phrases are worse than others. Whenever I read Uno's dialogue, for instance, I get the same feeling as if he had uttered a string of modern swear words, simply due to how Jordan had built up his system beforehand.

[@leppeppel]

*looks at thumbnail* Hmm, the machicolations debate is really heating up.

[@afinoxi]

In a different universe , that is exactly what has happened. And I can grin like a child at that thought.

[@rhov-anion]

That's honestly what I thought at first. 🤣

[@l33tsamurai]

"I swear on the soul of my father, Domingo Montoya, you will reach the top alive" "Throw me the rope" 💁

[@marthahawkinson-michau9611]

😂

[@kuschelmonsternews794]

Hello! My name is Enigo Montoya! You killed my father! Prepare to die!

[@williamt.sherman9841]

"i give you my word as a Spaniard" "i've known to many Spaniards"

[@joellaz9836]

Swearing on your soul would have gotten you fined by the Puritans in 17th century England, you know.

[@l33tsamurai]

@@joellaz9836 but what if it's my father's soul? Also he's dead. Does that help?

[@dagoonite]

This was one of those videos where I ended up remembering "Oh, yeah, Shad's Mormon." Not in a negative light or anything, don't worry, just... I don't think about your religion and just that you're a cool guy who talks about cool things. I was just thinking about your resistance to swearing and remembered. (I remember always wincing whenever I'd cuss around the Mormons, feeling like a heel over it.)

[@DanKaraJordan]

"By the Dog!" - Socrates (The Dog is referring to Anubis, an Egyptian god.)

[@adolfodef]

Headcanon Accepted. Wait... this actually happened!

[@analogbunny]

Canadian French is lagged in time and still has these features. "Ostie de cholise de tabarnac maudit sang du fils" would be the kind of thing an angry construction worker would say if he hit his thumb. That literally translates to "host chalice from tabernacle cursed blood of the son", or "Holy grail from the altar, blood of Christ". But these words still mean what they mean in the proper context. It's actually not impossible to swear for a minute straight in French and never repeat yourself. As a (former) linguist, this episode pleases me.

[@amaplepaladin5700]

Agreed, i use good old “osti de calis de tabarnak” with frequency. Vive le Québec!

[@Yumao420]

Noob. In spanish you can swear as long as you can live. My longest swearing is in more or less 15 minutes without stop

[@analogbunny]

@@amaplepaladin5700 The only time I've ever been scandalized is when someone said "chatte du vièrge!". I'm not even religious and I still clutched the pearls. And I'm a Franco-Ontarian, dude. We always get left out 😥

[@Highbrowser]

I love the Merovingian’s monologue on swearing in the Matrix reloaded.

[@thelaughingcossack6521]

@@Yumao420 we Croatians have the most creative swearing in the entire world and I can bet you whatever you want that we have more creative profanity

[@Embetebe]

Apparently the worse swear word you can use in Shad's hearing is Lindybeige's pronounciation of "Machicolation"

[@matheuseduardo67]

Oh no, Shad does sound a little bit French

[@sarasolomon4812]

This video is very interesting! As a religious Jew I can tell you that the severity of swearing and using G-d's name in vain, has not changed since the middle ages (even earlier). G-d's name is so sacred that we never even pronounce it; it is spelled one way but pronounced an entirely different way in prayer. When not praying, we say "Hashem" which literally translates as "The Name". Some Jews don't even spell out G-O-D, but write G-d (as you might have noticed I'm doing now). Although there are many Jews who say "G-d" instead of "Hashem", when speaking to non-Jewish, fir the sake of clarity. But saying G-d's sacred Hebrew name in vain is considered a serious sin. Swearing as an oath is also serious business. You should NEVER make promises you can't keep, especially saying "I SWEAR to do XYZ", because Heaven will hold you to your oath, even if extraneous circumstances get in the way. The word is to make a "Neder" a "vow". If you make a neder, you must go before a Jewish Rabinical Court of Law (consisting of three men), explain your mistake and be absolved of your oath. It's complicated, and it's easier to just avoid making a neder to start with. Swearing and cursing is considered vulgar, and low class. Although, apparently there are whole books filled with hilarious Yiddish curses.

[@kaitlynkitty1917]

*ahem* THY mother, not thine! Thine is for words that begin with a vowel sound.

[@tylerbrown8098]

Yes, but no. Thy/thine is the same as my/mine, the vowel thing is a seperate rule that applies to both

[@kaitlynkitty1917]

@@tylerbrown8098 Having looked it up, different websites are saying both, but the majority seem to be saying thine is just the prevocalic form(preceding vowels). How can we know which ones are more trustworthy?

[@tylerbrown8098]

@@kaitlynkitty1917 idk the sites you, specifically, are seeing, so I can't speak to that. All the ones I've seen, and have just confirmed with, explain that it's both (and often specifically that it works just like my/mine), except for a rather specific genre of posts/sites/threads trying to dumb it down so people can get their "Old English" right (and doing so inefficiently, imho). The my/mine=thy/thine equivalency also fits with how languages tend to work (the first person and second person pronouns use the same endings, as opposed to possessing the same endings but using them differently).

[@robbiejena3735]

Translation: They cared about CONTEXT.

[@Jimbobalina1]

If only the western world's media conglomerates care about context in 2020,

[@dossiebigham6916]

Yes just yes if only the world still did care about context.

[@martytu20]

I see you’re a man of culture as well...

[@dossiebigham6916]

@@martytu20 yes

[@salvadortoscano2534]

@@Jimbobalina1 By God's dick I wish they cared about context (gonna try and make that my "highest" curse word/phrase now, and do my best to not use God's name in vain :P I'm trying to be religious again)

[@geoshark12]

A lot of medieval swearing seems more creative then now a days swearing

[@geoshark12]

@Logan Waltz name the last time you heard a swear that some one did as a sentence off the top of there head

[@zssdfounder4607]

@@geoshark12 in today's world most people aren't as overall intelligent in the aggressive speech department. I'd imagine some of our ancestors saying that we are far less imaginative when telling people to "F off"

[@geoshark12]

@@zssdfounder4607 i think we need to take some spartan classes( they literally had there soldiers train in the comeback and smack talking and being sass masters)

[@straightjacket308]

Lord of the rings uses oaths and swearing in an amazing way. In that each one held power. Look at the ghosts that aragorn had fight with him in the palanor fields. They swore an oath to fight alongside his ancestors, and they bailed.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

And they had to stand up to their oath to be freed of that undead existence.

[@davidtolman6743]

When your bishop asks you to speak in sacrament meeting, you Shad must know you were probably his first pick, and he was looking forward to it. Not many people can talk about god so well and remain interesting throughout.

[@Colouroutofspace4]

My favorite example of swearing is The Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks

[@1917cutlass]

I was completely unfamiliar with this until reading this comment. Thank you for posting it, you made my morning!

[@Csanad121]

Which is? Link?

[@damuvang1915]

What? You have to tell us please!

[@Colouroutofspace4]

Context: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks

[@IamRayson]

I read it and had a grin from ear to ear.

[@RauMins]

"Thou weedy clay-brained foot-licker!" But on a more serious note, fascinating subject.. but it doesn't feature enough machicolations ♥

[@shanjudo4510]

@sbcontt YT i believe you sir have pronounced that word incorrect!! i am greatly offended...IT IS pronounced machicolatiannnsssaaayyyyhhhhhhhhh!!!

[@cmelton6796]

Instead we had MALEDICTIONS!

[@ElJelda]

It’s really interesting to compare the facts you say with how you used them in the Shadow of the Conqueror. I actually adopted its swearing at darkness, and even few weeks after reading the book for the first time, I used „blackened” irl.

[@saheliumd7182]

I am so happy that Shad is getting movies and graphic novels made. You deserve it all mate!

[@GreatUSTreasureHunt]

"Go hashtag atsign percent ampersand yourself!" "How is that spelled?" "#@%& if I know."

[@justarandomtechpriest1578]

pound sign

[@shadpant9255]

this & is called an ampersand?

[@xxportalxx.]

@@shadpant9255 yes, it comes from how the alphabet used to be said 'a ampersand b...' or something along those lines

[@irok1]

@@xxportalxx. When reciting the alphabet: a,b,c,...x,y, z, and per se and, meaning that 'and' was, by itself, 'and'. And per se and eventually bled together to form ampersand

[@xxportalxx.]

@@irok1 yeah that's it, I knew someone would remember it clearer than I.

[@djdeadbeat4380]

The insults in medieval times sounded really savage

[@Lurker101Gaming]

They required more creativity than just calling someone a cunt. Creativity is always superior to laziness

[@justincenter4061]

"Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries" sounds like it's just a goofy string of words, but it is truly insulting. Hamsters were unpleasant rodents known for constantly breeding, elderberries were a common fruit to make wine from. so in other words "your mother was a dirty slut and your father was a drunk". An actually meaningful insult that would start fights even today.

[@MajorNr01]

This video has helped me get my casual swearing under control and make use of it only when appropriate. You wouldn't imagine what kind of character improvement this unlocks! Thanks Shad!

[@designator7402]

Shad doing his best not to swear in a video about swearing gives me life.

[@TheMemeRepository]

Missed an opportunity to say: "Oh sugar honey iced tea".

[@ct7567CaptRex]

Im stealing that. Thanks alot.

[@r0bw00d]

@@ct7567CaptRex If you had watched _Madagascar,_ then you could've stolen it a lot sooner.

[@ct7567CaptRex]

@@r0bw00d never could, when I was a child my mom didnt let me watch anything that wasnt an original german kids show or movie. (i am german and my mom is a conservative traditionalist).

[@punishedbearzerker5400]

Good day, purveyor of Good Rat.

[@r0bw00d]

@@ct7567CaptRex Well then, at lease if you didn't know where it came from before, you do now.

[@LuckySketches]

Shad, looking at a picture of poop: "It may have slipped out once or twice."

[@tnttulberg4308]

haha

[@lucie4185]

Why do I get the feeling Jazza was involved in all those occasions?

[@admiralsand]

Oh no

[@reactivearmour5126]

So glad to see you again, Shad. Great video. God bless you.

[@bishopclark4524]

I love watching your videos I deal with anxiety and then you just have a very likeable way representing yourself in your information and it just helps me to watch her videos

[@CunnilingusVolcano]

“By the Nine!“ “Blessings of Stendarr upon ye”

[@elliot04877]

By shorr, is this a elderscrolls connoissuer im sensing?

[@Marinealver]

Pieces of Eight

[@Etticos.]

You're bloated with disease. The Vigilant of Stendarr can help you, as long as you promise to never assist the Daedra.

[@Aethuviel]

@@Etticos. As a loyal and faithful Dunmer, I slit the throat of every Vigilant I encounter.

[@StarlitSeafoam]

Shor's bones! A true son of Skyrim! Talos be with you, friend.

[@quentinbrown9300]

OkayOkayOkayOkayOkayOkayOkayOkayOkay, you get a like just for that thumbnail, for some reason it just made my day!

[@karnagefails333]

Was just about to say the same ha!

[@riatsila144]

Not sure entirely which video I found you by, but have thoroughly enjoyed everything I've watched! You have gained greater respect from me by your restraint of the tongue, and all the more, I am thrilled to be able to call you brother! Praise and Glory to the King!

[@Solidfact42]

As someone who is fascinated by language in general, this was a particularly interesting episode to me. Thank you for the exploration into this concept.

[@theguy3851]

Imagine medieval cursing is actual demonic ritual.

[@afinoxi]

I too , do speak enchanting table.

[@marvalice3455]

Nah, that's the equivalent of being racist in a liberal arts school. You don't dare speak it aloud.

[@MithrilSludge6541]

That spy kids 3 profile pic and name tho

[@rikospostmodernlife]

Curse

[@edi9892]

I once heard as a curse: by God, I brought you into this world and will take you out of it, if you keep...

[@thefabulouskitten7204]

It always kinda makes me happy seeing you take a Christian approach on these sorts of things. Not a lot of Christians accurately depicting our beliefs on here. Props to you Shad! God bless.

[@azrael_hypo]

the Christians that don't accurately depict your beliefs typically don't share your exact beliefs. for example, many evangelical Christians believe that faith is required to enter Heaven, while Catholics typically believe that you just have to do good. in this case, while Shad (who is iirc a Mormon) may take great offence to blasphemy, a nonpracticing Christian who believes in the god of the bible but just tries to be a good person may not, and may also be comfortable with swearing. i don't mean this to attack you; i just don't think it's fair to say that Christians are depicting your beliefs inaccurately when they don't share the exact same beliefs as you. p.s. if you're curious, i'm not a Christian, although i hope that you won't dismiss this comment on account of that

[@RedRocket4000]

@@azrael_hypo Officially Catholics and Protestants have buried the hatchet and agreed that asking Jesus for forgiveness the only requirement to enter heaven but that works are important and the natural consequence of becoming a Christian. Basically both sides said both sides belief was correct in that being saved would result in what Catholics would expect one to do and if that did not occur you would question if they still are saved. It not just Evangelical Christians it all Protestant belief on asking Jesus for forgiveness being the baee. Of course this agreement has not filtered out to all believers and on the Protestant side only the major groups that were involved in the negations. Of course the intense irony of the Many millions killed in the religious wars between the sides only to realize the sides did not disagree on the core.

[@azrael_hypo]

​@@RedRocket4000 "officially" is a little bit of a problem in the Catholic Church, since Pope Francis and the Vatican disagreed on whether atheists (and other non-Christians) are able to go to Heaven. Pope Francis said that he believes that it is possible, though less easy, for non-Christians to get into Heaven, while the Vatican denounced that. however, the main point is that there is disagreement in doctrine (though i admit that i was mistaken as to its extent on account on the fundamentalists such as Jack Chick, which i typically find to be more entertaining and important to address than more reasonable groups like Quakers). a better example would be doctrine regarding LGBT+ rights, where the NIFB advocate for a theocracy that murders members of the community and say that they're all going to Hell, while Quakers and some Methodists perform gay marriages. the thing to take away is that saying that some Christians don't represent your beliefs Christianity fails to recognise that not all Christians share your beliefs. if you really need convincing of that, look at the beliefs of Heaven's Gate, a Christian cult whose take on Christianity was distinctly sci-fi, but still Christianity

[@Scyzzles]

These videos about the more mundane aspects of medieval life are my favorite stuff of yours. Interesting stuff that doesn't get covered much.

[@alexgibson4415]

Shad I wanted to tell you how refreshing, comforting, and how it just does my heart good to see a popular KZbinr tell the world there a Christian, and shares there convictions, bless you brother, also wanted to let you know that I watched your video about you going through your struggles with sleep apnea and talking about the surgery you were gonna soon be going through, that was quite some time ago but when I watched it I also was struggling with sleep apnea, it was affecting my work, my relationships with friends and family, and my own basic joy in life, the cpap machine did not work for me and I was really wondering what I would do next, then I seen your video talking about how the cpap didn’t help you and that the surgery was the next step, I didn’t even know there was such a surgery as my doctor never mentioned it and I though the machine was the end of the line, your video made me aware of it and I talked to my doctor, it’s been months now since I had my nasal operation, turns out I only had about a 4mm space to breath through and obviously the cpap couldn’t help that, I now breath in general soooo much better and can sleep and actually awake feeling rested and not in a daze with a headache, I am able to work without falling asleep at the wheel and enjoy outings with the family again, I actually remember when the doctor removed the tubes from my nasal passages about a week after the operation and I took my first full breath, I thought I’d suck up his tie 😂, thank you for the fun and informative videos you make and thank you for being open about you faith any your struggles, both have helped me a lot, may God bless you and your family!

[@garrettman8]

Shad: "I'm turning my book into a comic with one of the best graphic artists in the industry, Mike S Miller." Jazza: *With tears* "Brother?"

[@yochaiwyss3843]

You mean to tell me, that in the backwards medieval times, people used the context of the words in a far more discerning and intent-based manner, than today's "enlightened" world? I'd bring up an example with a pug but I don't have 800 Quid and as a certain judge stated 'Context Doesn't Matter'

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

If you want to live in medieval way so much try it let's see how nuch you'll last

[@yochaiwyss3843]

@@berilsevvalbekret772 I don't think I have stated that in any form, though you are invited to bring forth a quote of me doing so. I'll wait.

[@Yora21]

"Bad words" that must never be spoken always strike me as being primarily an American thing. I believe it comes from some Christian sect that fled persecution in Europe.

[@yochaiwyss3843]

@@Yora21 And yet... it's a crime in the UK, primer state among western civilization

[@d.o.p.echart9483]

@@yochaiwyss3843 You guys badly need a bill of rights in the UK.

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

The fact that he could the intro without chuckling (until after the cinematic) must have been a great feat of self-restraint!

[@snafu2350]

Nice explanation! Incidentally, "We Will Rock You!" as a backing track or crowd song works well for an early-period chant, as most of the original song is 'a cappella': the bass guitar solo is simply tagged onto the end. It would be very appropriate if musical styles had diversified a little :)

[@shadfacts6465]

Shad Facts: Shad has created a variant of the "Power Word: Kill" spell. From shad though it is a thousand miles AOE spell and a correctly pronounced calling of MACHICOLATIONS!!!!!!!

[@jcdenton2187]

Power Word MACHICOLAAATIIIOOOONS Prerequisites: Owning at least one castle with Machicolations Components: V Level 7 Spell learned only by Shad.

[@danthiel8623]

Machicolations!

[@Xion_Toshiro]

In a Biblical context; when the Pharisees went up to Christ Jesus, saying: "He hath a devil" - was considered as a blasphemy of a highest order. That lesson I learn really stood out to me, and stuck with me.

[@markbyrd7710]

Yes! And Jesus told his followers not to swear oaths by anything on earth or in heaven, so this is why "swearing" is seen negatively.

[@simonacerton3478]

If you think about it, its a very serious insult as it says basically "Is possessed by Satan combined with spiritually unclean." In many parts of history it a great way to have someone's friends and family pay you a very hostile visit.

[@knightjamesii7757]

@@simonacerton3478 the ancient equivalent of cancel culture.

[@SirWussiePants]

And "Using the Lords name in vain" did not originally mean swearing but using God's name to curse someone in the way we think of calling upon Odin to give someone the pox. But saying Jesus F'ing Christ does not meet that. A curse is different than swearing. Cursing is calling upon the god(s) to cause someone else harm. Swearing does not break the commandment, Cursing does.

[@jrsoggaming8690]

Jesus then continues to tell the people that this statement, "He hath a Devil." is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, because the Pharisees knew that He truly was the Son of God and they mocked the Spirit, only because they were Prideful and Greedy, and they did not want Rome to take away their seat of power. and that it is the only Sin He would not forgive.

[@BeachpennyProductions]

I really appreciate this video in every way. Like always, super educational and helpful as well as entertaining

[@airshipswashbuckler6420]

Deep respect for how you covered this topic. I am really enjoying your channel! There is a wide range topics and tons of useful information and always an interesting and educated perspective. Keep it up! 😁👍

[@joshguilds6284]

The idea of how a modern audience responds to swearing compared to how somebody would in a medieval setting reminded me of my favorite author Terry Goodkind. In his Sword of Truth book series he used the word bags in the same context as we would use f*ck. Now of course "bags" isn't a swear word, but Goodkind does a great job of making his characters act offended by the word that as the reader you end up finding the word offensive as you read it.

[@Arenuphis]

Same for Robert jordans wheel of time Had a wide array of curses that you know are curses because of the delivery and how chars react to hearing it

[@kevlar3994]

I love mormons skirting around swearing, it's the most adorable thing in the world to me.

[@ChrisHolman]

Shad is a Mormon? Or no??

[@TheHornedKing]

@@ChrisHolman He is a mormon.

[@ChrisHolman]

@@TheHornedKing Makes sense now

[@thethrashyone]

Strange to learn that he's Mormon since I've been thinking for a while, "Man, Shad really reminds me of this Mormon friend I have." Very similar mannerisms and sense of humor.

[@brettmajeske3525]

@@ChrisHolman Check out his video on the Sword of Laban!

[@zestybomb]

I can't wait to see a movie with your theme song and title card playing

[@joeytrevino7809]

Wow! This was very helpful. Thanks for sharing this!

[@magister343]

Probably the worst Medieval swear word was "Gadzooks!" It literally means "God's Hooks," or "the nails that held Jesus Christ on the Cross."

[@doomyboi]

Zounds (God's Wounds) would be up there as well

[@kevinsullivan3448]

I've heard 'Bloody' explained as referring to the Blood of Christ and a bad conjugation of 'By Our Lady' referring to Mary, the Mother of God. Those came from two different Anglican priests when I lived in Australia in my youth.

[@manicpixiefangirl4189]

Kids back in the 90s going into their favorite trendy clothing store: 😶😳

[@dangerszewski9816]

well that's not PRECISELY true. It was a "minced oath" which was meant to imply without saying that actual offensive phrase, kind of like "heck" "gosh" or "jeeze". But because of the euphamism treadmill soon the replacement word became vulgar in its own right.

[@1FatLittleMonkey]

Re: Gadzooks. AIUI, there's no evidence of that. That explanation seems to be a bit of folk-etymology or back-formation invented long after the fact. Most likely, it was the opposite, a nonsense word created when people start to say a genuine blasphemy (such as, "God damn!") and catch themselves on the first syllable. "OH GOaaaaahd... zoooks." Then becoming an exclamation in its own right. For post-Norman swear words, we see the same with the various "ffff...." substitutes: Ffffrickin', fffflamin', or if you get a little further in before you catch yourself, fuuuudge, fuuuar-out... (Ditto the sh.... substitutes, shoot, sugar, etc.) There do seem to be some Cockney (and then Australian) variants which map too closely to have not been a curse (Cor blimey (God blind me), cor-strewth (God's truth.)) But again, there's no actual evidence of the supposed original profanity. The "explanation" comes long, long after the terms were in common usage.

[@calumdeighton]

The only medieval swearing I know is from Monty Python with the Outrageous Frenchman's accent on his peggy little battlements like some roost magpie.

[@justincenter4061]

​@@gamecavalier3230 Hamsters are unpleasant rodents known for constantly breeding, elderberries were a common fruit to make wine from. so in other words "your mother was a slut and your father was a drunk". An actually meaningful insult that would start fights even today.

[@ronweber1402]

"I wave my private parts at your aunties"

[@alink2dfuture504]

I needed this to remind me how wholesome Shad is

[@StevDoesBigJumps]

Damn, Shad playing it really safe with the algorithm.

[@ThatKenpoGuy]

As a Catholic, I sometimes flinch a little whenever in the game Kingdom Come: Deliverance, enemies use the term Sakra which refers to the Holy Sacraments. As a soldier in real life, ironically I barely even register half the other obscenity in the dialogue in that game. Culture really does affect what we find offensive!

[@tada-kun982]

I only ever heard 'Kurva'

[@alekssavic1154]

@@tada-kun982 There's quite a lot of "Sakra" or "Kristus" as well. I found it interesting that a lot of the time they translated the profane exclamations (usually followed by a character crossing themself, which is another great detail) but not those two (or Kurva, but as I understand there isn't really a good english equivalent)

[@tada-kun982]

@@alekssavic1154 well, haven't played the game in a while

[@jirkahudak3]

@@alekssavic1154 Sakra(means here is used when you are embarassed, you have forgoten somthing etc. more profane is Kurva), Kriste, Kristova Noho (literaly christs leg) are also quite common words in czech republic, Ježiši Kriste(Jesus christ is a bit of a equivavalent of WTF) We don´t consider them as unsults though, at least not strong ones. We are really creative with the strong ones though. But well the derivates from christian terms, are no longer considered religious in the slightest. I mean for me connecting Sakra with Sacrament, was a bit new :D

[@Neo2266.]

Lol the word “sakra” is a very common swear word in the Czech language. So tame that it is prompted to be used by children instead of words like “kurva” and such. I don’t even think local christians realize it’s a shortened version of “sacrament” I could see that as a historical inaccuracy in the game though, since “sakra” sounds fairly modern to me, my grandpa would still use the word “sakrament” instead.

[@AsperTheGhost]

The fact that Shad was able to describe his own personal response to hearing Christ's name in vain is brilliant. Probably the most informative example in the video of what a medieval person would have actually felt hearing those phrases used.

[@opalaa5874]

well done Shad proud of you

[@grantbreland654]

I really liked your anecdote about “A Knights Tale”. Very understandable

[@TheSonOfTheDragon]

Man the Medieval roast game was fierce. Today's swearing and cursing ain't got shite on it.

[@stuchly1]

Absolute cobblecock today. Yeah.

[@ifoldyougo6517]

im definitely stealing this from tumblr, but they had shorter life expectancies, so they had to make each expression of loathing count

[@amaplepaladin5700]

Come to Québec and you’ll see that there is still a bit if that roast ferocity in the world

[@TheRezro]

It is because most swearing people nowadays are teens who think that "bad words" make them cool, or do that casually. It is rare to get decent roast from someone actually maliciously hateful.

[@thethrashyone]

@@TheRezro It has nothing to do with "looking cool". I love how people who don't swear like to attribute it to that mentality though, it's cute in a kind of sheltered way.

[@NickNitro]

we needed this, thanks man.

[@errymikh3353]

Hey it's nick

[@vinyl7764]

Oh my god it's nick

[@thelonelygamer1825]

you've lost so much weight! omg, thats amazing my dude. cant wait to actually read your book!

[@aprilnicolae9359]

Thank you for sharing this!

[@oneleggedrussianpeasantboy8243]

The evolution of swearing: Medieval cursing > Modern swearing > Shad talking about Halloween

[@XraynPR]

Shad talking about Spaghetti Bolognese > Shad talking about Halloween > Medieval cursing > Modern swearing

[@timothyissler3815]

Shad: *mentions f-word but doesn't say it* Picture Frame: *shows hockey puck* Me, a Canadian: "Cool!!!"

[@TrentCantrell]

Great video. It made me realize - in fantasy novels we see people swear by their gods all the time. I've never seen another character get offended at that swearing.

[@greyroot00]

10:00 sacrilegious, thats a word that I've never heard for a long time.

[@davidmeffe715]

A shame you didn't share any of the insults of William Shakespeare. "I'll beat thee, but I would Infect my hands." (Timon of Athens Act 4, scene3), "Thine face is not worth sunburning" (Henry V act 5, scene 2), et al. They wouldn't be swearing in the historical sense as you pointed out Shad, but it just shows you don't need to swear to insult someone. I know Shakespeare is a little after what is considering Medieval and within the Renaissance, but they are close enough that the swears would have been nearly the same.

[@michami135]

"Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!" Still my favorite.

[@1Mutton1]

@@HessianLikeTheFabric the speed of change has increased exponentially in modern times. I think his assertion is fairly sound.

[@1Mutton1]

@Irish Jester sure. English, French and Germany for example have many common or shared words these days. However, the comment was that it would change substantially over 100 years, and in particular in England. Changes would never be this rapid unless there was a particular substantial event. Such as being occupied by another country. Many countries have a lot of very distinctive dialects which formed because they didn't have tourism among the common class like we know today. People tended to stay put unless they were a tribal culture.

[@1Mutton1]

@@HessianLikeTheFabric I know there would have been changes, but the OP was saying that they would be similar in nature. Like calling someone a horse's arse rather than a pigs arse becoming more favourable (not true example). It is still of the same nature. You seem to underestimate the impact modern globalism and media has. In your example, there are many American terms of phrase that are taken up in Australia only because kids hear them on tv. Many swear words have gone out of favour and been replaced by blasfemous curse words, as Chad was saying, probably for no other reason that so many people are atheist now. God damn is no longer taboo. This would not happened readily back then.

[@madensmith7014]

There is quite a difference from using profanity and swear words, and being offensive and insulting. You can say "Fuck that feels good" or "By god that was amazing" and those would still fall under profanity even if in context nothing was being offensive or rude. Meanwhile you can be creative with your insults like "You insolent pig" "I'd rather kiss your dead mother than sit next to you" or "I should have bought a pack of condoms if I knew you would be born" without using any profanity or referring to one. Shakespeare was being insulting without being profane or cursing just to get out of the profanity filter since religion was still strong during his time.

[@doomyboi]

I gotta say that picture of the knight flipping off the troll is amazing

[@ThatGuy21872]

Got a pretty good laugh out of me.

[@shibalikchakraborty5344]

Best thumbnail , new introduction speech for my RP character

[@Amcsae]

As someone who has never used "swear words", the part where you talked about feeling uncomfortable even uttering something like the f-word (even in academic terms) was so true for me!!

[@baka030hydroid]

This video has a great amount of historical insight but It also proves that Shad is a true noble gentleman and has no need for swearing and cursing

[@VonOzbourne]

To paraphrase Shad and Carlin: “There are no bad words. Bad thoughts. Bad intentions, and Swooooords.”

[@robbieward7026]

Very interesting! A very fascinating evolution.

[@KainL33]

Really enjoyed this video. As a minister I've always interpreted cursing more a long the lines this video expresses, but I always promote avoiding the modern perception as well to "avoid all appearances of evil" and to avoid unnecessary offense.